They had one of these in a Chinese restaurant when I was young. I was mesmerised by them and always wanted to know the magic behind it. Thanks for showing it 35 years later!
I thought of that as well. If you were going to do something modern day though, you could just use an LCD screen and microcontroller for nearly the same price.
LEDs can make a lot of things much more viable. Things like Christmas tree fires shouldn't really be an issue anymore because they give off so little heat you could just leave your lights on all the time. And things like this that would be a fire risk and take considerable amounts of power to keep running are completely viable again
i used to go to a local flea market with my mom all the time as a kid. i always would go to the same few stalls. one of them had one of these hanging in the back, i loved just looking at it. the place ended up burning down.
I remember a couple of these hanging in a Chinese restaurant we used to visit. After a while the mechanics made a terrible noise and they left them hanging, but un-powered.
When I was a child, we used to stop a a little café on old US Route 66 called "The Ariston Cafe" on the way to St. Louis. They had a picture of a mill on a stream with water flowing by it (my memory is also trying to tell me that the entire scene scrolled along too it was a looong time ago). It used to fascinate me to no end as we waited for our food to be prepared...
We've still got one of a waterfall that's mounted on a lounge wall, and of which I bought in the 90's from one of those pop-up High Street Christmas shops. It has many air vents drilled into the wooden sides of it, and it squeaks quite a lot when running. So, because of that and the smells that emanate from it, I've not had it running for more than a few minutes per year when family insist on seeing it in action.
Good old nostalgia. I haven’t seen one of these in many years but they were quite common when I was younger. I also remember my Grandmother having an oil lamp that was always fascinating to me. They were rather large, bronze colored, and typically a statue of a lady or goddess was encircled with little wires or cables that oil would run down and it would appear almost like rain as the light glimmered over the oil droplets. I haven’t seen one of those in many years either.
In the 70's there were cylindric vertical lamps with a metal cage inside that started to rotate from the heat of the bulb in the center giving a similar effect. The cage started to rotate through the air convection inside the cylinder. I haven't seen them in a while and with LED lamps they wouldn't work as intended.
That reminded me of the electric fire we had when I was a lot younger... There were two radiant 'bars' mounted above a fairly convincing coal bed. Hidden below that a lamp made the lighter parts of the coal bed glow. But the icing on the cherry was a little fan blade balanced/ pivoted above the lamp. Convection turned the 'fan' so the coal embers flickered nicely. I was easily pleased back then.
@@keithmiller5042 We had an electric fire like that when I was little, but the mechanism was even more trivial, it was just a strand of ordinary tinsel that was rotated by a clock motor. The effect was reasonable, however, as the tinsel cast both moving shadows and reflections.
I grew up in Northern Wisconsin in the 60s/70s. Every bar/tavern/pub had a sign like this from one of the local beer distributor. I was memorized by them until a friend sold his bar so the state could build the highway wider and I got a good look inside to see the same setup as you show here.
I saw something similar in a film and couldn't work out how they made a moving bouncing ball effect, it turned out the front was painted in reverse and the bounce pattern was the only clear part, so as the colours scrolled across the back of the screen, much as does here, only sideways, they could provide different colour bouncing balls, which I thought was a fantastic idea I forget the film, it's the one with the guy who played Al Bundy, while he was in the series Married with Children, it may have been a budwiser sign, I forget, but there if you want to see it I think it turned out the sign was in production for about 20 years, about 1967 to 87 so amazed mroe weren't available online when I checked.
I won't lie the first time you showed it it was genuinely mesmerizing. After seeing all the components the magic disappeared for me when you showed it a second time, hahaha. Not in a bad way just in a very analytical way to my brain. I have some appreciation for it now. Its crude but,,, impressive!! In how you get such a pretty effect with simplistic tech
Around 1965 my parents had 2 lamps, they both worked the same way. There was an outer semi-opaque lamp shade. There was an inner cylindrical shade that freely rotated, driven by the rising warm air from the incandescent bulb. One was a waterfall, the other was tropical fish appearing to swim round a bowl.
Here in the US there is a beer company called Rainer and the brewery was at Tumwater Washington where there was a waterfall. They had promotional signs that were very similar to this with their waterfall. I always wanted one of those signs. 🙂
Thats a nice object, for some reason it reminds me of a Chinese restaurant in the 80s. could rally do with an upgrading to LEDs but do you stick to constant brightness-colour or see if slight colour changes warm - cool white dimming might make it even more trippy..
It reminds me of the effects scrollers that go in-front of theatre lanterns. But I don't see that lasting too long if it is mated up with a 1kW tungsten lamp.
damn, I remember being fascinated by one of these when I was little. It was in a pub we went to a few times. I'd completely forgotten. I suppose the recall meant I never saw one again 'til now.
@4:20 The upside-down version seemed even more realistic, as the water-ripple effect seemed to be of a pool-surface and the trees like mirrored reflections above the cut-off water-cascade.
replacing the starter with a LED starter (just a wire link or a fuse inside) and the fluorecant tube with an LED tube will get rid of the fire hazard. the ballast can also be jumped with a Wago connector and completely removed, shedding a lot of weight off of the picture
I like the effect! It could be modified, just by removing that paper and cutting out a big section of the back for more air flow. Maybe even a more modern low heat light tube. Of course none of that might work, and it might still go up in flames!
My Auntie had a similar moving picture. She moved to near Sunderland and must be 55 years ago. The effects are not too bad at all. Thanks Clive an interesting object. 👍👍
1:35 “This is just not fitting very well, is it? Right, give me a moment. I’m just going to try to get it into a good position” …said the actress to the Bishop! 😂
it's really cool (or hot). I bet they were expensive when new.. I had a car race game which had a similar revolving sheet for the movement of the road.
An old beer company in the US called Hamm's used to sell clocks featuring something a lot like that. They were a fixture in dingy-ass bars in the 70s & 80s.
I'd guess that the wires are intended as anti-static measures, although it's unclear what (if anything) they're connected to. It's noisy because the top belt has wandered.
Every Chinese restaurant here in the Netherlands had one of these on a wall back in the 80's... Some were pretty big as well, I remember wondering how these worked when I was a kid
I have such a strange nostalgia for these and not quite sure why? I think they were ubiquitous in Chinese buffet restaurants and some of those Asian shops in the mall? I always thought they looked really cool! Would be neat to make an LED version that's sorta reverse version of those fire lights.
Quite a nice little idea though, and at least the manufacturers use spring tensioners for the wires. Maybe replace the tube with a couple of LED strips ?
Hamm’s beer signs were my favorite kinetics. In addition to the horizontal background filter ripple effect, a vertical conveyor provided an ever-changing panoramic image. Think it was called Scene-O-Rama.
Similar to the effect on my electric fire, just orange LEDs inside a rotating metal tube with random flame shaped cutouts in it, projected onto the back of a black plastic sheet with translucent random stripes on it, the 2 mesh together, it's a nice effect with the glowing coal and embers 😊 I like the newer smokey type coal, flame fx nowadays though. I seem to remember a really big version of the waterfall in a Chinese takeaway in the 80s.
Oh Jeez. Are you digging through my back rooms 😂 Hey, I'm keeping the lava lamps, but I can make you a deal on the Slot Machines 😏 .... and we can talk about the electronic stuff, but you aren't very nice to those 🤣 Yeah, I'm keeping that picture too btw.
my grandmother had several "forest fire" diorama drums in her living room, I guess those were similar in concept but quiet and IIRC They weren't motorized and the movement came from hot air rising from the 40 or 60 watt incandescent bulb inside, and on the top there was sort of a fan connected to the moving part of the drum. it might be interesting to see the diffuse light source of the fluorescent tube in your flat diorama replaced with a finer beam type light such as a clear argon display tube.
For safety sake, Put a led strip in it. My friend had a Christmas tree That's had a Fellament light in it. I replaced it for an led lamp Then it didn't get hot.
the world needs a new version of this with LEDs. maybe you could have a pixel display of LEDS and remove the moving parts, download new patterns with software. But at that point a cheap LCD would maybe be better.
I always enjoyed these. I'm guessing the wires are to keep the clear plastic belt from rubbing the back of the image off. I wonder how much static electricity you could build up inside one of those if things aren't quite right. Also, they definitely need the fluorescent light. Leds are good, but even the cold white doesn't get the right tone.
I have a guess, the wire across the conveyor might have the purpose, apart from holding the foil down to provide a bit of earthing, to ground possible static electricity. These plastic foils are prone to stick quite nastily to the glass when statically loaded otherwise and generate a lot of friction.
Hey Clive... Did you get my comment about the ridiculousness behind the Tom Evans £25,000 Pre-Amp repair 'Copyright Claim' against 'YT 'Mend It Mark', due to his 'Drawing of the circuit layout' (a standard thing to do when working out circuitry)?? Seems like you too could get in trouble photographing circuit boards & drawing technical diagrams! 😏🤣🤣🤣 😎🇬🇧
I did and left a comment on his video. Given how many of the items I look at have been cloned to death, it would be hard to find the original designer.
@@nicolassales8679 Drawing the circuit is a false excuse for the copyright claim, the video got taken down because it showed that a $30,000+ amplifier is absolutely not worth that, there are no precious components or clever circuitry inside, plus the construction is amateurish.
@nicolassales8679 I think, we are ALL missing the point of what the amplifier company Tom Evans is trying to make with that rather expensive £25,000 Pre-Amp repair video by 'Mend it Mark'. He did what he usually does, make a video about an amplifier repair (he'd done many from vintage to modern), and, as he had no technical manual for that Amp, he had to work out where/how/what and everything to diagnose and then repair the fault. Part of it was to draw up a schematic of components and wiring diagram, yet, Tom Evans deemed it necessary to force a 'Copyright Strike' on UA-cam against Mark... It's all basically a load of old b@ll@x, because Tom Evans wanted MULTIPLE THOUSANDS of £££s for the repair (when it turned out to be a shorted component (I guess made out of 'Vibranium plated Unobtanium'?)... Basically, a 'Lowly' kind, nice guy on UA-cam showing up a snobby HiFi component company... And Tom Evans DIDN'T like it I guess... 🤔🤨😒
I didn't know this existed, but I've though about making something like this before. And then not done it because I had doubts about safety. Turns out that actual companies also had that idea, but didn't care about the safety. I'm less than surprised unfortunately.
This Phillips S10 Starter is extremely unreliable. While fluorescent tubes were still in use I replaced them whenever I did see one in the wild. They tend to stick, and then you get a tube with glowing red ends, burnt lamp holders and a cooked ballast.
I think another possible issue is the effects sheets might be made of flammable nitrocelluose (yes I know I spelled that wrong, no spell check on this stupid phone) (nitrate) material. Many decks of playing cards in the 1970s and before were coated with it.
When we bought our house in 2008 this was the one and only thing the sellers left behind. No idea why. We kept it for a couple of months then it went to the charity shop. It was kind of noisy and fake looking.
Bet they got even more "kinetic" while being tossed out the window after they caught fire...8^) Might have been an OK product if built into a sheetmetal enclosure with no wood or paper inside, and plastic parts made thick enough with UL line voltage / UV resistant rated polymers. Cheers!
Just remove the paper and everything will be safer. I don't think the problem with the fire is in the ballast, as I've seen many plastic lights with magnetic ballasts, however, it's also a good idea to remove the plastic around the ballast, which is better than ruining everything with LEDs...
Ah there's nothing like containing heat-generating electicals inside a wooden box filled with flammable plastics and no ventilation, what could possibly go wrong!!! :P
Ditch the ballast and put two rows of LED strip tape behind the rollers, maybe a few others scattered around with diffusers for general back lighting, and you should be good.
Clive, I heard on the radio this morning, that some Air Friers record conversations and can send information about what the owners are cooking with them. Is this possible? If so, could someone send you one, so you can take it apart and investigate as to how it's done? This would be very interesting!!
I imagine they were specifically talking about those WIFI enabled fryers, the ones that allow you to use your phone to adjust cooking times, temp etc. from a different location. If so, the user likely had to download an application to setup the WIFI functionality, no doubt accepting a bunch of nonsense in the T&C's which allows for the manufacturer to intermittently request user data, and other things associated with the fryer.
be good to convert it to LED, and replace the backing paper with sticky back aluminium tape, we used to have a round one with the water falls on, and my aunty had the forrest fire one. used a use a 40w bulb, with a spinning fan of an electric coal effect fire .. worked well
Changing the tube to a LED tube, would that reduce the temperature? Also changing the starter to a LED compatible starter, those shouldn't be "hot" right, I think they are just a short/bridge. Could you do temperature tests? If you feel like it of course 😋
They had one of these in a Chinese restaurant when I was young. I was mesmerised by them and always wanted to know the magic behind it. Thanks for showing it 35 years later!
Our local Chinese had one until an interior refurbishment a couple of years ago.
@@johnnodge4327Was that after the fire? 😂
People may think that this is a bit of cheesy technology, however this is the innovation that brought us into this age. No idea is wasted.
Looks like a LED upgrade project.
Cultural vandalism
With scavenged backlight from broken LCD monitor
I thought of that as well. If you were going to do something modern day though, you could just use an LCD screen and microcontroller for nearly the same price.
LEDs can make a lot of things much more viable. Things like Christmas tree fires shouldn't really be an issue anymore because they give off so little heat you could just leave your lights on all the time. And things like this that would be a fire risk and take considerable amounts of power to keep running are completely viable again
@TransistorBased what was your point.
i used to go to a local flea market with my mom all the time as a kid. i always would go to the same few stalls. one of them had one of these hanging in the back, i loved just looking at it.
the place ended up burning down.
I remember a couple of these hanging in a Chinese restaurant we used to visit. After a while the mechanics made a terrible noise and they left them hanging, but un-powered.
"the place ended up burning down" I wonder why...
When I was a child, we used to stop a a little café on old US Route 66 called "The Ariston Cafe" on the way to St. Louis. They had a picture of a mill on a stream with water flowing by it (my memory is also trying to tell me that the entire scene scrolled along too it was a looong time ago). It used to fascinate me to no end as we waited for our food to be prepared...
I seem to remember lots of Chinese food takeaways had them in the 70s and 80s. Very nostalgic.
We've still got one of a waterfall that's mounted on a lounge wall, and of which I bought in the 90's from one of those pop-up High Street Christmas shops. It has many air vents drilled into the wooden sides of it, and it squeaks quite a lot when running. So, because of that and the smells that emanate from it, I've not had it running for more than a few minutes per year when family insist on seeing it in action.
Burning water, it could have been a very dramatic effect.
Good old nostalgia. I haven’t seen one of these in many years but they were quite common when I was younger. I also remember my Grandmother having an oil lamp that was always fascinating to me. They were rather large, bronze colored, and typically a statue of a lady or goddess was encircled with little wires or cables that oil would run down and it would appear almost like rain as the light glimmered over the oil droplets. I haven’t seen one of those in many years either.
The raining oil fountains were very messy.
"I'm standing on a seat now" - bigbigclive
Oh My, Same one at the local bar when I was a kid. Adults and Kids for the lunch hour. Thanks much for the trip down memory lane.
In the 70's there were cylindric vertical lamps with a metal cage inside that started to rotate from the heat of the bulb in the center giving a similar effect. The cage started to rotate through the air convection inside the cylinder. I haven't seen them in a while and with LED lamps they wouldn't work as intended.
Those were popular here too.
That reminded me of the electric fire we had when I was a lot younger... There were two radiant 'bars' mounted above a fairly convincing coal bed. Hidden below that a lamp made the lighter parts of the coal bed glow. But the icing on the cherry was a little fan blade balanced/ pivoted above the lamp. Convection turned the 'fan' so the coal embers flickered nicely. I was easily pleased back then.
@@keithmiller5042 We had an electric fire like that when I was little, but the mechanism was even more trivial, it was just a strand of ordinary tinsel that was rotated by a clock motor. The effect was reasonable, however, as the tinsel cast both moving shadows and reflections.
crikey thats brought back memory's, can almost smell the lamp melting the plastic base .
I grew up in Northern Wisconsin in the 60s/70s. Every bar/tavern/pub had a sign like this from one of the local beer distributor. I was memorized by them until a friend sold his bar so the state could build the highway wider and I got a good look inside to see the same setup as you show here.
I saw something similar in a film and couldn't work out how they made a moving bouncing ball effect, it turned out the front was painted in reverse and the bounce pattern was the only clear part, so as the colours scrolled across the back of the screen, much as does here, only sideways, they could provide different colour bouncing balls, which I thought was a fantastic idea
I forget the film, it's the one with the guy who played Al Bundy, while he was in the series Married with Children, it may have been a budwiser sign, I forget, but there if you want to see it
I think it turned out the sign was in production for about 20 years, about 1967 to 87 so amazed mroe weren't available online when I checked.
They were all the rage in Chinese restaurants thirty years ago! 😁
I won't lie the first time you showed it it was genuinely mesmerizing. After seeing all the components the magic disappeared for me when you showed it a second time, hahaha. Not in a bad way just in a very analytical way to my brain. I have some appreciation for it now. Its crude but,,, impressive!! In how you get such a pretty effect with simplistic tech
I remember cylindrical lamps similar to this, but the gimmick was driven by the heat of the lamp, escaping through fan blades…..that was in the 50s!
Around 1965 my parents had 2 lamps, they both worked the same way. There was an outer semi-opaque lamp shade. There was an inner cylindrical shade that freely rotated, driven by the rising warm air from the incandescent bulb. One was a waterfall, the other was tropical fish appearing to swim round a bowl.
I remember a shop selling framed pictures of for instance a city street at night where the stoplights and streetlights were lighted up and alternating
The kind of thing which would make any interior designer recoil in fear like garlic to a vampire! 🫣
Here in the US there is a beer company called Rainer and the brewery was at Tumwater Washington where there was a waterfall. They had promotional signs that were very similar to this with their waterfall. I always wanted one of those signs. 🙂
Sorry it was Olympia brewery.
Thats a nice object, for some reason it reminds me of a Chinese restaurant in the 80s. could rally do with an upgrading to LEDs but do you stick to constant brightness-colour or see if slight colour changes warm - cool white dimming might make it even more trippy..
It reminds me of the effects scrollers that go in-front of theatre lanterns. But I don't see that lasting too long if it is mated up with a 1kW tungsten lamp.
damn, I remember being fascinated by one of these when I was little. It was in a pub we went to a few times. I'd completely forgotten. I suppose the recall meant I never saw one again 'til now.
My guess is the wire across the belt is to remove static build up.
@4:20 The upside-down version seemed even more realistic, as the water-ripple effect seemed to be of a pool-surface and the trees like mirrored reflections above the cut-off water-cascade.
Now I'm wondering where my old Hamms Beer sign got off to. Not sure if it used the same design.
Grew up in Northern Wisconsin, and I think every bar had one of their motion signs in them.
Convert it to LED perhaps?
Yeah! Swap that fluro tube for a nice UVC tube. /j
no, no... convert it to run off an oil lamp!
My local bar has a Hamms beer "Scene-o-rama" like that from 1956. Classic.
i always wanted 1 of these, they had a cool flower that would bloom in a repeating pattern in a restaurant i remember
replacing the starter with a LED starter (just a wire link or a fuse inside) and the fluorecant tube with an LED tube will get rid of the fire hazard. the ballast can also be jumped with a Wago connector and completely removed, shedding a lot of weight off of the picture
A more modern version might be a fun project...gonna have to check this out :)
I like the effect! It could be modified, just by removing that paper and cutting out a big section of the back for more air flow. Maybe even a more modern low heat light tube. Of course none of that might work, and it might still go up in flames!
My Auntie had a similar moving picture. She moved to near Sunderland and must be 55 years ago. The effects are not too bad at all. Thanks Clive an interesting object. 👍👍
1:35 “This is just not fitting very well, is it? Right, give me a moment. I’m just going to try to get it into a good position”
…said the actress to the Bishop! 😂
it's really cool (or hot). I bet they were expensive when new.. I had a car race game which had a similar revolving sheet for the movement of the road.
An old beer company in the US called Hamm's used to sell clocks featuring something a lot like that. They were a fixture in dingy-ass bars in the 70s & 80s.
I'd guess that the wires are intended as anti-static measures, although it's unclear what (if anything) they're connected to. It's noisy because the top belt has wandered.
Every Chinese restaurant here in the Netherlands had one of these on a wall back in the 80's... Some were pretty big as well, I remember wondering how these worked when I was a kid
Great I have one of those of Cumberland Falls Kentucky. Glad I barely use it
Wonderfully oldschool. Wonderfully dodgy.
I have such a strange nostalgia for these and not quite sure why? I think they were ubiquitous in Chinese buffet restaurants and some of those Asian shops in the mall? I always thought they looked really cool! Would be neat to make an LED version that's sorta reverse version of those fire lights.
Simply but neat and my fav lights preheat
Very cool, love to see the use of practical effects to make the magic happen instead of digital trickery.
Quite a nice little idea though, and at least the manufacturers use spring tensioners for the wires. Maybe replace the tube with a couple of LED strips ?
Hamm’s beer signs were my favorite kinetics. In addition to the horizontal background filter ripple effect, a vertical conveyor provided an ever-changing panoramic image. Think it was called Scene-O-Rama.
Probably very well to be modernised with a LED-TL-style lamp so it will be keeping its cool for way longer.
Similar to the effect on my electric fire, just orange LEDs inside a rotating metal tube with random flame shaped cutouts in it, projected onto the back of a black plastic sheet with translucent random stripes on it, the 2 mesh together, it's a nice effect with the glowing coal and embers 😊 I like the newer smokey type coal, flame fx nowadays though. I seem to remember a really big version of the waterfall in a Chinese takeaway in the 80s.
Oh jeez I remember seeing some of these in the 90s. I forgot they existed. Thanks for sharing and taking me back to my childhood.
Oh Jeez.
Are you digging through my back rooms 😂
Hey, I'm keeping the lava lamps, but I can make you a deal on the Slot Machines 😏
.... and we can talk about the electronic stuff, but you aren't very nice to those 🤣
Yeah, I'm keeping that picture too btw.
my grandmother had several "forest fire" diorama drums in her living room, I guess those were similar in concept but quiet and IIRC They weren't motorized and the movement came from hot air rising from the 40 or 60 watt incandescent bulb inside, and on the top there was sort of a fan connected to the moving part of the drum.
it might be interesting to see the diffuse light source of the fluorescent tube in your flat diorama replaced with a finer beam type light such as a clear argon display tube.
How doesn't love Big Clive and his crude mechanisms?
For safety sake, Put a led strip in it. My friend had a Christmas tree That's had a Fellament light in it. I replaced it for an led lamp Then it didn't get hot.
"Three stars, items was very pretty, until it burnt my house down. That was also pretty ... while it lasted."
I'd love to get one made with LEDs that isn't a fire hazard. I bet they'd sell well!
These days it would probably be cheaper just to use a dedicated LCD TV.
Ahh... Classic Chinese restaurant vibes
the world needs a new version of this with LEDs. maybe you could have a pixel display of LEDS and remove the moving parts, download new patterns with software. But at that point a cheap LCD would maybe be better.
Same effect that was used on some model railway layouts I had.
I always enjoyed these. I'm guessing the wires are to keep the clear plastic belt from rubbing the back of the image off. I wonder how much static electricity you could build up inside one of those if things aren't quite right.
Also, they definitely need the fluorescent light. Leds are good, but even the cold white doesn't get the right tone.
Quite a cool effect! 👍
I have a guess, the wire across the conveyor might have the purpose, apart from holding the foil down to provide a bit of earthing, to ground possible static electricity. These plastic foils are prone to stick quite nastily to the glass when statically loaded otherwise and generate a lot of friction.
I think adding a little pool of gasoline at the bottom would make the shimmer more pronounced
Hey Clive... Did you get my comment about the ridiculousness behind the Tom Evans £25,000 Pre-Amp repair 'Copyright Claim' against 'YT 'Mend It Mark', due to his 'Drawing of the circuit layout' (a standard thing to do when working out circuitry)?? Seems like you too could get in trouble photographing circuit boards & drawing technical diagrams! 😏🤣🤣🤣 😎🇬🇧
I did and left a comment on his video. Given how many of the items I look at have been cloned to death, it would be hard to find the original designer.
I fail to see how drawing a circuit on a piece of paper is copying an amplifier, or am I missing something?
@@nicolassales8679 Drawing the circuit is a false excuse for the copyright claim, the video got taken down because it showed that a $30,000+ amplifier is absolutely not worth that, there are no precious components or clever circuitry inside, plus the construction is amateurish.
@nicolassales8679 I think, we are ALL missing the point of what the amplifier company Tom Evans is trying to make with that rather expensive £25,000 Pre-Amp repair video by 'Mend it Mark'. He did what he usually does, make a video about an amplifier repair (he'd done many from vintage to modern), and, as he had no technical manual for that Amp, he had to work out where/how/what and everything to diagnose and then repair the fault. Part of it was to draw up a schematic of components and wiring diagram, yet, Tom Evans deemed it necessary to force a 'Copyright Strike' on UA-cam against Mark... It's all basically a load of old b@ll@x, because Tom Evans wanted MULTIPLE THOUSANDS of £££s for the repair (when it turned out to be a shorted component (I guess made out of 'Vibranium plated Unobtanium'?)... Basically, a 'Lowly' kind, nice guy on UA-cam showing up a snobby HiFi component company... And Tom Evans DIDN'T like it I guess... 🤔🤨😒
Nice piece of kitsch...
I didn't notice you'd put the glass back on upside down until you mentioned it.
I thought it looked better that way. 👍
Looking forward to your next video where you convert it to led strip
Hi Clive , could you not convert it to LED that would make sense .😊
Never seen one, fascinating what they thought up.
Today's version of this would be an LED screen showing a live stream of the scene in question, lol...
They're really good effect, and with LEDs today would be much safer
I didn't know this existed, but I've though about making something like this before.
And then not done it because I had doubts about safety.
Turns out that actual companies also had that idea, but didn't care about the safety.
I'm less than surprised unfortunately.
This Phillips S10 Starter is extremely unreliable. While fluorescent tubes were still in use I replaced them whenever I did see one in the wild. They tend to stick, and then you get a tube with glowing red ends, burnt lamp holders and a cooked ballast.
I think another possible issue is the effects sheets might be made of flammable nitrocelluose (yes I know I spelled that wrong, no spell check on this stupid phone) (nitrate) material. Many decks of playing cards in the 1970s and before were coated with it.
Oh yeah I forgot all about those!
A lovely visit to Nostalgia Lane.
Thank you BC 👏👏👏👍
When we bought our house in 2008 this was the one and only thing the sellers left behind. No idea why. We kept it for a couple of months then it went to the charity shop. It was kind of noisy and fake looking.
mb to replace the lamp with an LED strip.
Safer version: LCD panel looping a video, like the monitors used for in-store video ads.
Thanks for showing us this die-orama picture. Hot stuff!
Bet they got even more "kinetic" while being tossed out the window after they caught fire...8^) Might have been an OK product if built into a sheetmetal enclosure with no wood or paper inside, and plastic parts made thick enough with UL line voltage / UV resistant rated polymers. Cheers!
Just remove the paper and everything will be safer. I don't think the problem with the fire is in the ballast, as I've seen many plastic lights with magnetic ballasts, however, it's also a good idea to remove the plastic around the ballast, which is better than ruining everything with LEDs...
Ah there's nothing like containing heat-generating electicals inside a wooden box filled with flammable plastics and no ventilation, what could possibly go wrong!!! :P
I am almost certain I saw these in the early-to-mid-1980's, rather than the 2000's. Or perhaps something very similar.
Next video should be about making this less flammable by installing an LED strip.
Could the wires be for static discharge?
i somehow had alot of things that worked in a similar way in the 90's
I have never seen one of those. Interesting!
Thanks Clive, its quite Moving.! 😉
Don't know about lighting with LEDs. The back lighting panel from a Laptop would be a better choice imo.
Ditch the ballast and put two rows of LED strip tape behind the rollers, maybe a few others scattered around with diffusers for general back lighting, and you should be good.
WOW, brings back long gone memories of cheap chinese restaurants' walls!
2:05 Static electricity dissipation, to prevent it from becoming dynamic electricity. Take a look at a van De Graaff generator.
Hummm, hack with colored LED to add a sunset look reflecting on the water.
Clive, I heard on the radio this morning, that some Air Friers record conversations and can send information about what the owners are cooking with them.
Is this possible?
If so, could someone send you one, so you can take it apart and investigate as to how it's done?
This would be very interesting!!
It's highly unlikely.
I imagine they were specifically talking about those WIFI enabled fryers, the ones that allow you to use your phone to adjust cooking times, temp etc. from a different location. If so, the user likely had to download an application to setup the WIFI functionality, no doubt accepting a bunch of nonsense in the T&C's which allows for the manufacturer to intermittently request user data, and other things associated with the fryer.
be good to convert it to LED, and replace the backing paper with sticky back aluminium tape, we used to have a round one with the water falls on, and my aunty had the forrest fire one. used a use a 40w bulb, with a spinning fan of an electric coal effect fire .. worked well
Changing the tube to a LED tube, would that reduce the temperature? Also changing the starter to a LED compatible starter, those shouldn't be "hot" right, I think they are just a short/bridge.
Could you do temperature tests? If you feel like it of course 😋
That's actually really neat. I like it!
Anyone know where this is, nice one Clive
Maybe convert them to LED's with a bit of light blue, green etc for realism?
Are those 2 wires possibly there to help drain static off the surface of the plastic?
I remember seeing them in chinese restaurants alot.