Hey there, The general progression for most players is: Hera Descended first. Common first Hera clear teams are 50% dark resist + Odin or Damage Multiplier teams (Chinese god, Horus, etc). Two Heroes usually comes next. Common first clear teams: Quadruple resist (Fortoytops and Abyss Neptune leaders), Mono dark (Dark leader, Hera sub, Lucifer friend leader) or Damage Multiplier teams. The progression isn't as clear after this, but generally Goemon, Hera-Is and Hera-Ur (all Legend) are next!
Plus eggs. They drop pretty rarely (I've found every ten or twelve 7 battle dungeons). Each one will give a boost to whatever monster you fuse it to. If it's a plus hp, it gives 10 more hp. Plus attack is 5 more attack. Plus rcv is 3 more rcv.
Thank you for replying. Hera descended & Two heroes is quite difficult for me as well. Gods that I have are Crimson dragon god Hino Kagutsuchi, War Deity Ares, Minerva, underlord hades, idunn&idunna, Freyja. What monsters should I get, that are droppable in dungeons, that'll go good with any of those gods that'll help me beat Hera descended and the two heroes dungeons? Thank you for your help, very much appreciated. SUBSCRIBED :)
Wow, those rolls aren't too shabby either! Hades is actually very useful to have duplicates of because you never have enough Gravity, and he has two possible ultimate evolutions! Artemis is also a great green leader and Neptune is a great sub and situational leader! Very solid rolls. Congrats!
Goemon is definitely the most reliable "farmable" way of getting Zeus. I can't overstate that Zeus' dungeon is extremely difficult! I think many players underestimate his dungeon because it was put in the game before dungeons like Valkyrie, Hera-Is, Goemon and Hera-Ur. That may be the case, but his dungeon is much harder than most of those dungeons IMO! Another farmable team (not guaranteed 0 stone) is Vampire lord leader, max skill echidna, max skill CDK, 2 gravities and zeus friend leader.
It may be possible but it might be hard without a few gravity users and a delayer. Genbu has easy access to gravity users but not much compatibility with delayers. You'd want high levels for sure. Check the video descriptions for my Goddess Descended videos for some info on the dungeon itself. Valkyrie is a problem because she will full heal below 50% HP, so you really need to take her out before she attacks in order to win.
You're welcome! I think you might be able to beat both dungeons with what you have! Hades would be a good leader for a Hera clear. Hades and Odin leaders. Check my video of 50% dark resist/Odin clear of Hera Descended, it's in my playlists. A Mono red team with Ares as your leader can probably take on Two Heroes! Check out my mono-red video for that dungeon, it's also in my playlists :) Video descriptions for both videos have strategy tips and team building tips!
Sorry i made you answer my question two different times :(. My phone had bad lag so i didnt see you answered my question since i booted it up today. You are always so helpful. I hope commentaries will be available in the near future. Keep it up though awesome work and sorry
You're correct about Zeus needing stalling :D He needs delaying as well. The same can be said about Valk, Cu Chulainn and Siegfried teams though. Zeus teams are incredible because you have two 35% gravities packed into your leaders along with a formidable atk bonus from the leader skills and generally high stats. Zeus is one of the highest stat monsters in the game and his "standard" subs aren't shabby either! His upcoming ultimate evo will make him even better :D He's worth stones IMO.
Hey there, I'm afraid Zeus Descended cannot be defeated with resolve teams. The reason for this is that enemies in the dungeon multi-hit, so while you'll survive their "first" hit, they'll continue the barrage and make you die. I'd recommend focusing on clearing Hera Descended and Two Heroes first. Those are the easiest descended dungeons. Zeus is quite hard and you want to start at the beginning/entry level descended dungeons :D
Skill levels are shown in the team description :) No, my gravities were not max skill when this was recorded. Your teams sounds solid, I think you can do it as long as you manage to stall on the masks. Be careful of your damage output! Don't want to kill them too fast.
Valid opinion! It's not just about the multiplier though. While Zeus has a lower multiplier than Horus (to make an example), he has far more burst damage potential. The reason for this is team member freedom and orb changers. With a Zeus team, you can get to a boss and pop a few light orb changers for massive light damage (if you're using a light heavy Zeus team). This sort of burst attack will far exceed a normal Horus combo. IMO Zeus is pretty underrated. Hard to use for sure though!
Pluses transfer between monsters when you fuse them! You can fuse a +1 monster to a Zeus and the Zeus will keep that plus as well as the XP he got from the fuse. I'll make a tutorial video concerning pluses next time I have a lot of them saved up. I generally save up about 20-30 of them before feeding them to a god.
Okay, I'll give Ra a shot again soon :) I don't know if I'll do it this event, but if I manage to be successful at a Ra team you'll definitely get a video!
I agree with the guy under me. In my opinion, Zeus is not that great of a leader because he needs a lot of stalling. Not to mention that the 3 Heroes (Valkyrie, Cu Chu, and Siegfried) could do far more damage with the King Slimes. Should I even try to do this dungeon?
Yeah, your probably right. I just saw your video farming Heras and noticed that he can farm faster than all those 3 Heroes because you are not restricted to a certain type and the Heroes don't have access to Gravity. I may of been biased because I never really used. Could Zeus be beaten with a farmable team (except Goemon because I can't get this guy to drop)?
Hey there, I am not a big fan of ADK teams (they generally have fairly low RCV) but never say never :) I'll probably do some ADK teams during a later event when I'm done experimenting with new toys like Byakko :)
I'm a terrible Ra player, I've tried running Ra a few times for descended dungeons and they've all ended in failure :) Maybe I'll be able to trigger Ra more efficiently once I get some practice with Kirin! If I can pull off Ra, I'll make videos for sure.
Thanks for your opinion :) , I have some difficulties to beat the The Goddess Descended! dungeon , my leader is moondragon and my members are 3 rainbow keeper and Hera, and my friend is Lucifer. can u do a video about that dungeon ? :D Thanks a lot
Hey again, I have a few Goddess Descended videos already, check my playlists :) As for your team, I believe you're going to want a few more gravity users before challenging the Valkyrie dungeon. This team isn't going to be able to reliably take it out. My Lucifer team Goddess Descended video has some brainstorming in the comments which might help you figure out a team, the video description has a lot of strategy tips as well.
Hey Zydoran, if you were a player that was starting out with a few good pulls and monsters under their belt which descended dungeon would you recommend clearing first? Is there any specific order we should do them in?
I got a metatron in the last god fest. I would like to see some Ra videos too, but I understand where Zydoran is coming from Ra is one pain in the ass to use. I got a zeus using a Horus and Anubis team but i ddint get all elements to attack.
Continued: I heard some people spent about 10 stones to get this guy, but don't really use him. Anyways, I just completed Hera-Is's dungeon and I see her potential, but I can't see her husband, the king of the Olympians' potential all that well. He really needs some sort of boost, maybe an ultimate evolution? Sorry, I meant delaying, not stalling in my first comment.
Hey were your gravities max skill? Also was your orochi skilled up? My Leaders are stronger but my subs are much weaker, Thinking about doing this When i get hera is: Byakko lvl 99 + 70-100 EOS Echidna lvl 75 Awoken Hera lvl 75 Awoken Hera-is lvl 60 Orochi lvl 80 Byakko lvl 99 +220 helper Thoughts?
zeus's active skill is very good but his leader skill is quit hard to be triggered. Even if u are in full health, its just 9 times of the damage, there are many other leaders that can do the same or even more damage, not to mention that their leader skills do not require full health.It is just my opinion :P
I disagree! Zeus is a fantastic leader. He's got great stats, a great active skill and a great leader skill. Zeus teams also have incredibly strong burst damage potential with orb changers. The condition of his leader skill makes him a little difficult to use but that only makes him more fun :) You definitely do need to adapt to his different play-style to have success running a Zeus team, but they're extremely powerful when played well.
Really good rolls here too! Susano goes perfectly with that Horus.
Hey there,
The general progression for most players is:
Hera Descended first. Common first Hera clear teams are 50% dark resist + Odin or Damage Multiplier teams (Chinese god, Horus, etc).
Two Heroes usually comes next. Common first clear teams: Quadruple resist (Fortoytops and Abyss Neptune leaders), Mono dark (Dark leader, Hera sub, Lucifer friend leader) or Damage Multiplier teams.
The progression isn't as clear after this, but generally Goemon, Hera-Is and Hera-Ur (all Legend) are next!
Plus eggs. They drop pretty rarely (I've found every ten or twelve 7 battle dungeons). Each one will give a boost to whatever monster you fuse it to. If it's a plus hp, it gives 10 more hp. Plus attack is 5 more attack. Plus rcv is 3 more rcv.
Thank you for replying. Hera descended & Two heroes is quite difficult for me as well. Gods that I have are Crimson dragon god Hino Kagutsuchi, War Deity Ares, Minerva, underlord hades, idunn&idunna, Freyja. What monsters should I get, that are droppable in dungeons, that'll go good with any of those gods that'll help me beat Hera descended and the two heroes dungeons? Thank you for your help, very much appreciated. SUBSCRIBED :)
Thank you!! It's a nice milestone :)
Wow, those rolls aren't too shabby either! Hades is actually very useful to have duplicates of because you never have enough Gravity, and he has two possible ultimate evolutions!
Artemis is also a great green leader and Neptune is a great sub and situational leader! Very solid rolls. Congrats!
Congrats on 1k subscribers !!!!
Wow, those are extremely good rolls. I am very envious of your Kagutsuchi, who I didn't manage to pull in about 20 rolls.
Nice, congratulations on your Zeus! He is in my opinion one of the best leaders in the game. He was my first (and only so far) +297 monster :)
Great video, rolled on rare egg and got a Fuma Kotaro
Goemon is definitely the most reliable "farmable" way of getting Zeus. I can't overstate that Zeus' dungeon is extremely difficult!
I think many players underestimate his dungeon because it was put in the game before dungeons like Valkyrie, Hera-Is, Goemon and Hera-Ur. That may be the case, but his dungeon is much harder than most of those dungeons IMO!
Another farmable team (not guaranteed 0 stone) is Vampire lord leader, max skill echidna, max skill CDK, 2 gravities and zeus friend leader.
It may be possible but it might be hard without a few gravity users and a delayer. Genbu has easy access to gravity users but not much compatibility with delayers.
You'd want high levels for sure. Check the video descriptions for my Goddess Descended videos for some info on the dungeon itself. Valkyrie is a problem because she will full heal below 50% HP, so you really need to take her out before she attacks in order to win.
You're welcome!
I think you might be able to beat both dungeons with what you have!
Hades would be a good leader for a Hera clear. Hades and Odin leaders. Check my video of 50% dark resist/Odin clear of Hera Descended, it's in my playlists.
A Mono red team with Ares as your leader can probably take on Two Heroes! Check out my mono-red video for that dungeon, it's also in my playlists :)
Video descriptions for both videos have strategy tips and team building tips!
Yes, the Chinese gods, Byakko and Kirin in particular, are very good!
Sorry i made you answer my question two different times :(. My phone had bad lag so i didnt see you answered my question since i booted it up today. You are always so helpful. I hope commentaries will be available in the near future. Keep it up though awesome work and sorry
You're correct about Zeus needing stalling :D He needs delaying as well. The same can be said about Valk, Cu Chulainn and Siegfried teams though.
Zeus teams are incredible because you have two 35% gravities packed into your leaders along with a formidable atk bonus from the leader skills and generally high stats. Zeus is one of the highest stat monsters in the game and his "standard" subs aren't shabby either!
His upcoming ultimate evo will make him even better :D
He's worth stones IMO.
Hey there,
I'm afraid Zeus Descended cannot be defeated with resolve teams. The reason for this is that enemies in the dungeon multi-hit, so while you'll survive their "first" hit, they'll continue the barrage and make you die.
I'd recommend focusing on clearing Hera Descended and Two Heroes first. Those are the easiest descended dungeons. Zeus is quite hard and you want to start at the beginning/entry level descended dungeons :D
Skill levels are shown in the team description :) No, my gravities were not max skill when this was recorded.
Your teams sounds solid, I think you can do it as long as you manage to stall on the masks. Be careful of your damage output! Don't want to kill them too fast.
Valid opinion!
It's not just about the multiplier though. While Zeus has a lower multiplier than Horus (to make an example), he has far more burst damage potential. The reason for this is team member freedom and orb changers. With a Zeus team, you can get to a boss and pop a few light orb changers for massive light damage (if you're using a light heavy Zeus team). This sort of burst attack will far exceed a normal Horus combo.
IMO Zeus is pretty underrated. Hard to use for sure though!
Pluses transfer between monsters when you fuse them! You can fuse a +1 monster to a Zeus and the Zeus will keep that plus as well as the XP he got from the fuse.
I'll make a tutorial video concerning pluses next time I have a lot of them saved up. I generally save up about 20-30 of them before feeding them to a god.
Okay, I'll give Ra a shot again soon :) I don't know if I'll do it this event, but if I manage to be successful at a Ra team you'll definitely get a video!
Thank you!
I second Hydra! Looking for some awesome Ra's to look to for inspiration!
Hey no worries at all! I will definitely keep uploading videos and thanks for your kind comments :)
I agree with the guy under me. In my opinion, Zeus is not that great of a leader because he needs a lot of stalling. Not to mention that the 3 Heroes (Valkyrie, Cu Chu, and Siegfried) could do far more damage with the King Slimes. Should I even try to do this dungeon?
I'd get the Hera-Is first!
You may have to spend some stones if you don't have VO or a second Echidna, but Zeus is worth it IMO!
Can you do a double adk team for any of the dungeons? I would love to see that.
how can i get byakku ? i have none of the jappanese jewels and i just need one of them
Rare Egg Machine roll, your best chance would be during a Chinese Godfest
why don't you use zeus awoken
For ranks, I usually do Ocean of Heaven on weekends!
Yeah, your probably right. I just saw your video farming Heras and noticed that he can farm faster than all those 3 Heroes because you are not restricted to a certain type and the Heroes don't have access to Gravity. I may of been biased because I never really used. Could Zeus be beaten with a farmable team (except Goemon because I can't get this guy to drop)?
Would it be possible to three shot Zeus with double byakku if I had two byakku skills up?
Curious how ppl did on the last godfest, did 6 rolls and got Odin, Yomi, Neptune and Kagutsuchi
Hey there,
I am not a big fan of ADK teams (they generally have fairly low RCV) but never say never :)
I'll probably do some ADK teams during a later event when I'm done experimenting with new toys like Byakko :)
I'm a terrible Ra player, I've tried running Ra a few times for descended dungeons and they've all ended in failure :)
Maybe I'll be able to trigger Ra more efficiently once I get some practice with Kirin! If I can pull off Ra, I'll make videos for sure.
I don't have Viper Orochi or Hera-IS, should I still attempt this?
I dont have Lucifer and Byakko , do u think I can beat this dungeon with a Genbu team??
And can someone explain to me how some people have +200 monsters. I only every have +1
What dungeon do you grind to level up?
Thanks for your opinion :) , I have some difficulties to beat the The Goddess Descended! dungeon , my leader is moondragon and my members are 3 rainbow keeper and Hera, and my friend is Lucifer. can u do a video about that dungeon ? :D Thanks a lot
Hey again,
I have a few Goddess Descended videos already, check my playlists :)
As for your team, I believe you're going to want a few more gravity users before challenging the Valkyrie dungeon. This team isn't going to be able to reliably take it out.
My Lucifer team Goddess Descended video has some brainstorming in the comments which might help you figure out a team, the video description has a lot of strategy tips as well.
Hey Zydoran, if you were a player that was starting out with a few good pulls and monsters under their belt which descended dungeon would you recommend clearing first? Is there any specific order we should do them in?
I got a metatron in the last god fest. I would like to see some Ra videos too, but I understand where Zydoran is coming from Ra is one pain in the ass to use. I got a zeus using a Horus and Anubis team but i ddint get all elements to attack.
Hey, what's a good resolve team for Zeus Descended? I don't have all those good strong gods :(
Rolled 12 times got Artemis, 2 Hades, and Neptune.
Continued: I heard some people spent about 10 stones to get this guy, but don't really use him. Anyways, I just completed Hera-Is's dungeon and I see her potential, but I can't see her husband, the king of the Olympians' potential all that well. He really needs some sort of boost, maybe an ultimate evolution? Sorry, I meant delaying, not stalling in my first comment.
I rolled like 8 or so times. Got susano, odin, 2 amaratsu, and Horus which was random luck
I think zeus is not a great leader as its ability need can only be triggered while in full health
Hey were your gravities max skill? Also was your orochi skilled up?
My Leaders are stronger but my subs are much weaker, Thinking about doing this When i get hera is:
Byakko lvl 99 + 70-100
EOS Echidna lvl 75
Awoken Hera lvl 75
Awoken Hera-is lvl 60
Orochi lvl 80
Byakko lvl 99 +220 helper
Thoughts?
zeus's active skill is very good but his leader skill is quit hard to be triggered. Even if u are in full health, its just 9 times of the damage, there are many other leaders that can do the same or even more damage, not to mention that their leader skills do not require full health.It is just my opinion :P
I disagree! Zeus is a fantastic leader. He's got great stats, a great active skill and a great leader skill. Zeus teams also have incredibly strong burst damage potential with orb changers.
The condition of his leader skill makes him a little difficult to use but that only makes him more fun :) You definitely do need to adapt to his different play-style to have success running a Zeus team, but they're extremely powerful when played well.
Can you make a RA video please :)
I'm afraid I'm completely full on friend slots right now, maybe some other viewers can add you!
Just one, but I've fed him about 10 copies of himself in a futile attempt at skilling him up. He's still skill level 1 :(
How many Zeus' do you have??? Lol
In my opinion, Zeus is superior to all three of those leaders :)
Check my reply to JohnLiuFromHK below for my thoughts on Zeus.