SaltEMike Reacts to Someone Made Pay 2 Win: The Game And Its Hilarious

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @Starlette-bh4qn
    @Starlette-bh4qn Рік тому +25

    pay to imagine - this had me in hysterics

  • @lanfeared
    @lanfeared Рік тому +2

    Chris Roberts bank balance says pay to win is the best model

  • @snapturtle3253
    @snapturtle3253 Рік тому +1

    one more missing pay2win idea is to give you a cute and cuddly pet companion but their food can only be bought with real money

  • @VeiLofCognition
    @VeiLofCognition Рік тому +2

    Star Citizen is Pay 2 be in Denial...

  • @karmabad6287
    @karmabad6287 Рік тому +14

    Blizzard spring instantly to mind watching this vid. Not so much for their micro transactions (yet) but for the carrot on a stick tactics they universally employ.

    • @Timeyy
      @Timeyy Рік тому +2

      Blizzard went straight to macro transactions, a single horse armor in D4 costs as much as the entire D3 addon.

  • @Casey093
    @Casey093 Рік тому +4

    Why do people enslave themselves like this? Just ask yourself "am I having fun, or is this an addiction", and then walk away if necessary.
    "Sunken cost" is such a stupid concept... we can't turn back time, we cannot get any younger, and each day could be our last... but if we let the past drag us down, we will waste precious time. If you have done some shit in your past, the worst thing you can do is let that shit stick to your shoes for the rest of your life and go deeper into the swamp.

  • @Eli9A
    @Eli9A Рік тому +2

    which is why this type of games are compared to gambling because gambling targets the same psychological effect

  • @dawnphantom2439
    @dawnphantom2439 Рік тому +3

    Need to get with this dude to develop "Pay 2 Win Two: Monetization Rising", but do it in UE5.3 with actual classes and stuff.

  • @John_Krone
    @John_Krone Рік тому +2

    That is why I quit Nova Empire.... Then I started Star Citizen and now I have access to the "CHAIRMAN'S CLUB"... I did not learn a thing 😖😭😭😅

  • @anthonyross5769
    @anthonyross5769 Рік тому +1

    In my humble opinion. If you look at any digital purchase as a "investment" you loose. You do it because you love the game. Choose to play it over hundreds of other choices. Its up to you to say no. I spent hundreds on mw wz in skins, but the moment I saw people under the map, I uninstalled. Told my teammate that was the final straw and haven't played cod since. SC is unfortunately to that point for me. Main issue is game crashing when I QT with cargo. Full cat of stuff I personally mined from the halo. Just poof. Gone. My shirt was red and I felt like I was missing a toe. It hurts my will to continue playing. Definitely not paying for any ships. So far I've only spent 175 total, and I won't be spending anymore. Not until I see physical hangers or whatever. If I can get that. I'd be content for I'd say a year before i started questioning the slow progression again. Im simple. All i want is to load up a cargo ship. in peace, with nothing but salvage and mined resources. Go sell without my game crashing. It's soul crushing. I won't touch fps pvp untill the invisible player thing is fixed. That was a issue for three months in tarkov recently so I feel for the people that put up with that crap. I wouldn't. The moment I got dropped by someone invisible. I stopped playing for said three months

  • @EpicJones1
    @EpicJones1 Рік тому +3

    New SC players aren't aware that they're actually purchasing a 30K simulator.

  • @Bloodlit
    @Bloodlit Рік тому

    “Fuck you too the moon Arthus, fuck you too the moon” 😂 Flashbacks over here… 😂

  • @dimman77
    @dimman77 Рік тому

    Mike talking about Ultima Online... Remember the relationship between Ultima Online and Star Citizen. Origin Games, Chris Roberts started there with Wing Commander.

  • @sarahrain
    @sarahrain Рік тому +1

    The UO example made no sense for the context of the conversation. The BOD system existed solely as a lottery bonus to provide additional systems outside of pure peddling of wares to other players and was not influenced by in-game microtransactions at all. Your impatience led you to RMT, instead of setting up crafting guilds to exchange BODs with each other or simply playing the market to find the specific ones you needed while selling the ones you didn't.
    You personally chose to go outside of the system itself to lower the integrity of the game by choosing to RMT in that scenario due to impatience, to "win", then subsequently complain about paying to win.

  • @mitchellheckethorn6003
    @mitchellheckethorn6003 Рік тому

    You buy it. You use it in an attempt to improve special payed for gear. It breaks. Special gear gone. Improvement item gone. Spend more. Wash, rinse, repeat. SHIA!!!

  • @AcheliusDecimus
    @AcheliusDecimus Рік тому +4

    Sc has this nailed: Pay to Imagine!! Good one Mike. Sadly, Brandon is right, we should not upset the whales, as 1 whale equals many plebs.

    • @HarenunHoppus
      @HarenunHoppus Рік тому +1

      But do the whales even play the game?

    • @AcheliusDecimus
      @AcheliusDecimus Рік тому +1

      @@HarenunHoppus Not like regular folks, they do screenshot simulator events, private ship shows, and play the game on Spectrum.

    • @spartamerican6758
      @spartamerican6758 Рік тому

      ​@@HarenunHoppusyou never been pirated?

    • @HarenunHoppus
      @HarenunHoppus Рік тому

      @@spartamerican6758 i tend to pvp, much more fun.

    • @spartamerican6758
      @spartamerican6758 Рік тому

      @@HarenunHoppus it's all pvp? Wtf are you even saying?

  • @viniciusgabriel10
    @viniciusgabriel10 Рік тому +1

    RuneScape has all these schemes inside it and probably a few more.

  • @kiridox2517
    @kiridox2517 Рік тому

    "Whales is The reason why The game is bad"
    They are also The reason why The game is still founded.

  • @d3m3n70r
    @d3m3n70r Рік тому

    CCU means keep players dreaming about bigger ships who eventually purchase them in a game that doesn't exist.

  • @zaydizzle
    @zaydizzle Рік тому +1

    use to play a mobile p2w game called wartune for like 7 years. I knew some whales in the game and they would get mad when the game didnt release new shit(gear, mounts etc) on a regular schedule. to them they had the money so for them the fun was being maxed out and fighting the other whales from the other servers in special events that ran once a month.

  • @atomicwrath5824
    @atomicwrath5824 Рік тому

    Well, this was utterly depressing with how many parallels there is to Star Citizen...

  • @pedrojose4250
    @pedrojose4250 Рік тому +1

    P2I new business model indeed you nailed if PAY TO IMAGINE :D

  • @WarbirdPhoenix
    @WarbirdPhoenix Рік тому

    This is pretty much every single game now. 😂 😭

  • @timdavis6913
    @timdavis6913 Рік тому

    I purchased the prospector to get a money making advantage. They nerfed it and now I need a mole. Pay 2 Win!

  • @John_Krone
    @John_Krone Рік тому +4

    CIG / you can buy the ships ingame but gone in the first wipe. Reason I don't think wipes are ever going away. 😐

    • @mbg4681
      @mbg4681 Рік тому +2

      The day the wipes end, their house of cards will crumble.

    • @benlee8225
      @benlee8225 Рік тому +1

      @@mbg4681 the wipes wont be needed cause pvp and people crashing and looseing gear ships so on will balance it XD

  • @Leptospirosi
    @Leptospirosi Рік тому +1

    Now I feel like I need a shower... 😰

  • @Mullins23
    @Mullins23 Рік тому

    Notice CIG refuses to implement an active player counter. There are more "alts" than active accounts. The vers is a LOT smaller than you think

  • @Asporez
    @Asporez Рік тому

    21:40 This reminds me a bit of what BSG said about Tarkov and cheating, it isn't that they don't want to address the issue of cheating but doing so for them mean taking a conscious decision to lose a lot of profit.

  • @Neostarchild
    @Neostarchild Рік тому +1

    Reminds of so many games it's disgusting. Then I look at my bank account and how much I've falling for some of it. Dragon Prohpet (my worst experience with P2W), Wow, Swtor, SC and others.. /shrug.

  • @GeneCavalcante
    @GeneCavalcante Рік тому +1

    Pay to imagine 😂

  • @RahzZalinto
    @RahzZalinto Рік тому

    next we should make a game called "it's not p2w because there is no pvp" and it's impossible but you can pay 1 dollar to skip to the end screen

  • @beny9360
    @beny9360 Рік тому

    Not sure what Mikes ultimate argument is reg SC. Just to go full subscriber model right now?

  • @DawnstealerGaming
    @DawnstealerGaming Рік тому

    @15:22 didn't Tony Z work on Ultima? I think it was VII and not Online, though. Maybe. All this said, the point of F2P is that if you have more time than money, you grind. If you have more money than time, you spend. And of course the company will try to entice and bludgeon the first into becoming the second whether they can afford it or not (kind of like churches...)

  • @vicsid9606
    @vicsid9606 Рік тому

    Yeah, I haven't spent any money on SC in three years or so.

  • @medicsansgarantee
    @medicsansgarantee Рік тому

    Aslong I can steal large ships like reclaimer, hammerhead and 890, star citizen is not pay to win ^^

  • @jgrizz7943
    @jgrizz7943 Рік тому

    can someone tell me where i would submit a video for reaction?

  • @JJS563
    @JJS563 Рік тому +1

    I actually think that what mike is highlighting here is that Star Citizen is just a glorified mobile game
    Think about it

  • @fogcutteur
    @fogcutteur Рік тому

    .....errr,,,,,is this Voidy?

  • @mitchellheckethorn6003
    @mitchellheckethorn6003 Рік тому

    Its fucking Shia!!!

  • @Kozi03
    @Kozi03 Рік тому

    Pay to imagine hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

  • @errgoth
    @errgoth Рік тому

    lol, this video is a gold nugget.

  • @lastburning
    @lastburning Рік тому

    Stuff like this disgusts me so much. It makes me ill.

  • @mwalker3005
    @mwalker3005 Рік тому

    I'm so disappointed. No Mans Sky doesn't have any micro-transactions. I feel really cheated. 20 upgrades and I can't spend any additional money on the game. Good thing SC makes up the difference.

  • @HughJazz69696
    @HughJazz69696 Рік тому

    haha....didn't we just go over this pay to win CIG thing? I'm only worried that the game will be fully pay to win upon release....

  • @BesteWare
    @BesteWare Рік тому

    well inkow somebody that has spend 20k $ on candy Crush..

  • @yrovie
    @yrovie Рік тому

    Not really Star Citizen model. There model is not pay to when, it's pay to wait. But at least they never say the game is free. You do have to pay to start unlike many of the mobile games that say free to pay, but your plagued with popup ads, and the need to purchase items to enable you to win, thus "Pay to Win".

  • @117johnpar
    @117johnpar Рік тому

    I mean, All of this is the same theories applied to casinos for decades. Its just that now its for games for kids.

  • @nd6886
    @nd6886 Рік тому

    Hey look; no desync.

  • @alexanderdooley5833
    @alexanderdooley5833 Рік тому

    SC players have a habbit of getting used to the game as it is now, much like the fast moment BS in video. as we advance the game twards the vision CR wanted to begin, people freak out that they are making the game worse to force you into buying a larger ship. I just dont feel that its intentional, just a side effect of the process. im very content flying my pisces and earning everything in game.

  • @captain-hooked
    @captain-hooked Рік тому

    Good video but the comparisons you made to SC were a bit of a stretch at times.

  • @spartamerican6758
    @spartamerican6758 Рік тому

    SC is kinda pay to pirate...

  • @Strange-Viking
    @Strange-Viking Рік тому

    p2i Pay2Imagine 🤣🙄😒 Yeah I am going to keep that coinage 😋

  • @Anachroschism
    @Anachroschism Рік тому +1

    Unfortunately, Mike's logic in trying to fit this to suit SC mechanics doesn't really work; for an Aurora to go across the system, that would mean all ships would need to be the exact same specs and never do anything different from each other. These type of games don't have the ability to buy certain necessities using in-game credits, one can only buy certain things with cash, including all the stuff that gives you buffs for XP and luck.

    • @mbg4681
      @mbg4681 Рік тому

      the vanity of small differences

  • @chrissimmons7722
    @chrissimmons7722 Рік тому

    Everyone don't play Trainstation 2 mobile hahahaha

  • @PeterJ88938
    @PeterJ88938 Рік тому

    I stopped playing raid shadow because of this... you can tell me not p2 win but it is lol 0£ spent...

  • @Dumb-Comment
    @Dumb-Comment Рік тому

    Star Citizen is not pay to win, it's pay to dream about winning 😂
    To be honest, SC is a one time expensive purchase, there are only so many ships you can buy, in other MMO you just keep spending and it's never enough

    • @BizzMRK
      @BizzMRK Рік тому

      we have no idea what CIGs "post launch" monetization plans will be aside from skins and still selling ingame money and if they are really going by their word (whatever that is worth these days) and stop selling ships after launch, which is ironic considering according to CIG themselves the game is already "released" whenever someone demands a refund.