That last clip is actually criminal. needs reporting to the police ASAP for dangerous driving. It's without due care as a minimum! I don't have much doubt they would have done the same to any vehicle, car, van, etc... and run them off the road, or even over them.
Either that or another driver behind isn't totally paying attention when traffic is forced to slow to deal with this and there is a pileup. Of course when that happens, the lorry driver can sit listening to the radio being grateful that he's already passed the accident and bemoaning the state of drivers on the roads and wishing they were all as good and safe as him.
In the last clip, since the lorry on the left had been forced off the road, it would have been safer to continue up the slip road and rejoin the motorway from the roundabout. Mind you, the HGV on the right deserves to be reported for dangerous driving. At the very least, his employer needs to see this footage.
From my own experience, company bosses aren't bothered... It's only when the police get in touch, and they do get in touch, that the bosses are motivated to admonish their employees, with a letter of notice and a not entirely glowing letter of reference. I've twice been in collisions from other peoples' dangerous driving, and I have no qualms about reporting vehicles being driven in this manner.
@@johnbower7452 That would not surprise me in the least bit. Like anything else that's cheap, it's going to be substandard, not fit for purpose and downright lethal!
I had exactly the same thought. Far safer to continue up the exit and rejoin the motorway. Especially as that would have been on a downslope, making it easier to pick up speed for a safe merge, instead of struggling back, from a standing start and uphill.
The infamous merge in turn trigger when you pass someone and they then focus on retribution rather than driving. Quite often I see them a mile off and ease off the throttle, tuck back in behind then and all Insee is them braking so they don’t hit the vehicle in front as they were going too fast and then looking in the mirror most likely shouting obscenities that I cannot hear. Oh well, if they are in that much of a hurry, they can stay in front. No issue with me. Easier to keep an eye on them 👍
At around 8:16, don't you just love it when you slow down for a genuine hazard but a driver behind either thinks differently or totally fails to recognise the hazard. Pulling over for emergency vehicles is another common situation where that happens.
True, but in all defence, most of the times you just have some idiot in front that is doing weird maneuvers for no reason. It's not that often that people actually slow down or brake for a good reason unfortunately.
I'm constantly amazed how oblivious so many drivers are to flashing blue lights and sirens - either oblivious or they just don't care. I'm not sure which is worse.
I"m loving it. Especially if they have to back up all the way, cause plenty of damage to their own car by hitting obstacles that are unmovable and are unlikely to be damaged...... Yes, those kinds of situations i love. Obviously not when it is an emergency vehicle coming from the other side who has to now wait for this dipstick to backup. BUT, all other cases, yes sir, i am loving it. I got the time anyway. And it is always a wonderful sight to see, their face and how they struggle to get back in line to give room for the oncoming traffic or what ever is happening at the moment. Just yesterday i was in Antwerpen. In a small boxtruck. There was a truck-trailer backing into a space, but it didnt fit. He was trying for quite some time and had us all stopped. And then you see the Belgians go over the cycle lanes, over the footpaths, everywhere they can go, just to get out of there. Me? I just step out and smoke a cig. Who cares?
I've had something very similar happen to me whilst I was on a delivery run with the company I work for. I'm limited to 56mph and was forced onto the hard shoulder, and to keep safe, I just took the exit the lorry was also taking. Terrifying moment, but I'd rather go the wrong way than risk being killed due to someone's terrible driving.
7:27 Thank you Ashley, not enough people point out horn use, it was definitely excessive amount of horn use in that scenario, glad it worked out though.
I do this, pressing on the horn too long, it's something I need to work on. Sometimes though, when you're being run off the road by someone with terrible planning or observations, you feel like you just can't help it. Still, must try harder.
0:13 Every time I'm approaching a truck with a car behind it, I'm abundantly aware that it may be waiting for a gap to pull out into and I'll slow down just in case. On thing you learn from riding a motorbike is: People don't look.
A motorcycle also seems to be really good to teach it's rider the mindset of "I may have the right of way and be right but what does that matter when I'm under the hood of a car?"
@@chunkyrabbit1032 That is a _really_ interesting difference between two-wheelers... People on bicycles often ride like nobody on the road can hurt them, people on motorcycles usually assume that every other road user is a professional assassin hired to take them out. I have yet to understand why that is - because both are similarily vulnarable.
@@ribbonsofnight Interesting. That would also explain why cyclists are usually the most vocal advocates at urban design meetings - you either get scared out of cycling or get angry about design that is killing you. Makes sense, actually... But it does not explain why motorcyclists do NOT get scared out of it, but rather it makes them just cautious.
I am loath to criticize the other driver in the final clip, but I personally would not attempt to rejoin the carriageway in that situation. Overall he did well in responce to a true idiot though.
I think had I been the camera driver, once I saw the mess forming, I would have been looking to move a lane over and getting off the throttle. if there was a need to stop, I could stop after the crash.
It's a roundabout at the top of the slip road, so continuing up that and back on to the motorway looks like a good option but I did think that the cammer could have made that a little better - assuming there was nothing preventing the lane change. That notwithstanding, the culprit was clearly driving the blue artic.
I drive an artic , i once had another artic trying to overtake me ,when he eventually got alongside me he beeped and pointed that he wanted the exit we were coming up to , cheeky huh , so he had to slow and pull in behind to make his exit . if im within 2 miles of my exit and im catching another truck i dont try to overtake as i may not make it in time , simple huh.
I'm not sure if that cyclist did run the red, I think they were simply too slow. Their failure was to proceed through the junction in good time as other (local) commenters have pointed out the lights are actually a little further to the right than you'd expect from the footage. The fact they stopped at the next set definitely makes me think this.
It's hard to say without seeing it, but maybe it was just a poor decision to continue when the Aamber showed instead of stopping. The worrying thing is when the car got close to them they didn't even seem to glance at the car, as if they were going through the lights without paying any attention to other traffic.
A note about that passed driver overtaking on country roads 5:27 I don't think I ever did any overtakes on them kind of roads during lessons, pretty much everything was urban driving So it could just be a lack of judgement if they havnt had much expierence judging how much space is actually needed to overtake at that kind of speeds I did an overtake like that a couple weeks ago thinking I had plenty time, wasn't quite as bad as that tho
Not as bad as that but I've had a couple of instances where for whatever reason the car didn't give the power I'd normally expect on an overtake - I'd have aborted though in that situation there was plenty of space. What I see a lot of lately is people speeding up after someone(s) has committed to overtaking them - I don't think it malicious just a lack of attention and complete lacking of awareness of how stupid and dangerous their subsequent action is.
At 5:20, you give sound advice about do your best to accommodate flow re the blue Range Rover in the right turn lane but wanting to go straight ahead. The flip side of this (and also to accommodate flow) would be from the Range Rovers perspective. Namely, if you are in the wrong lane, carry on in the correct direction for that lane and get back on your intended route some other way safely.
It was Warrington, at the junction where there is a college and retail park. The junction is well marked out, so couldn't have mistaken it. If wrong lane used, they could have carried on and there is a roundabout a minute away....
That is what I have always done. Quite a few times I have found myself in the wrong lane in new areas (before Sat Nav) and rather than wait and force across I would either continue and turn round if traffic was about. I would rather add on 5 minutes to my journey than potentially adding 90 minutes while waiting to be towed somewhere
It's an alien concept to those people to just proceed and turn around at the next occasion. You may lose a few seconds but save yourself the stress. Doesn't go into their heads.
For balance and context, I know for some people going an unknown way or deviating away from where the sign says can increase stress and anxiety more than waiting to turn the correct way - even if doing that is stressful and increases anxiety but not as much as the alternative. The anxiety I think is going to get worse for people before it gets better especially with things that have been happening recently in the world and not helped by other drivers using the reprimand horn, not merging in turn properly and generally being unaccommodating towards others that may be unfamiliar to an area and make small mistakes that can be easily rectified If we can all do a little to help on the roads then the overall effect is massive on everyone. I had one journey recently where everyone was leaving gaps, letting people across the road and out junction, a real feel good drive and you could feel the positive energy coming from everyone. Then there are those journeys where everyone is in a rush, tailgating leaving no gaps and you can feel the negativity and tension everywhere to the point you just want to go home, lock the door and wait for another day. If you are still reading this far apologies for the ramble but sometimes it is needed and I hope everyone understands it isn’t a grumble towards them personally but general observations 👍 Take care all Edited to correct bad autocorrect
The overtake by the new driver was ridiculous, and as someone who only passed my at the start of this year at the age of 44 (first time, 3 minors), I still hear my instructors words as I drive around! When I’m on the road I do feel the seething from folk behind me as I dare to drive at the speed limit. You can sit up my arse and shake your head all you like pal, my foot ain’t going closer to the floor so you can get to Tesco 30 seconds sooner.
At 5:12, my issue is not that the Range Rover has made a lane choice error, it's that they don't stop at the lights (as they are changing). From there, put a signal on and try to make eye/verbal contact with the driver to their left - many drivers are OK with letting you out PROVIDED they can see you want to change. If that doesn't work/if they had already gone through the lights, why not slow to a crawl so that the TWO vehicles on the left move on, then calmly move across no hassle? No one else is behind them to cause panic.
Very good point on the Range Rover stopping for the light changing. They could easily have stopped in the cycle area before the second white line so that’s what they should have done. There is no dispensation for continuing through an advanced stop line traffic light on amber like there is for “normal” traffic lights.
How good are the police in the UK at enforcing driving rules? In the US they seem mostly worried about speeding and stopping at red lights and stop signs. Id like to see more enforcement.
The cyclist overtake at the beginning of the video is in Woodhouse in north Leicestershire. During rush hour there's often long lines of traffic stuck behind cyclists there, especially in the summer. What that driver did there happens every time.
Ah yes at around 0:40, I have similarly had other drivers triggered when I time my arrival at traffic lights as they turn green whereas they have to move off from a standing start in the next lane. Particularly if the other driver previously overtook me, prior to the traffic lights.
Everytime I approach a set of lights I approach them at a slow pace to give the lights time to change and if they haven't changed by the time I have to stop I leave enough room in front of me to creep forwards when they do change.
I was in the wrong lane accidentally the other week, I thought it was right lane ahead and right, left for left only, turns out it was the other way and it's the next set of lights that are how I thought. Lights changed and as the first few cars moved I saw the road markings ( side note.. on road markings are F*ing useless when are frequent queues, councils PLEASE put actual signs up on both sides as well because when lorries are there you can't see the ones on the left only...) So anyway, as the first few cars moved I saw the actual markings and that I was in a right only lane, but in the left after the two cars was a lorry who looked heavy as he has started to set off but was crawling away... so I had to do what I had to do, I was well past by the time I moved over and pulling away steady so I didn't cut him up or anything or force him to do anything crazy... I felt a bit guilty at skipping the 1.5 mile queue in that ahead and left lane because I normally moan about such behaviour, I had to imagine the lorry driver was either laughing his ass off at how easy I slipped in, or cursing yet another car wanker.
@@kal9001 Happened to me once a few months ago, I arrive at the lights and there's three lanes, my destination was on the left after the lights and so I chose the left most lane thinking it could go left or ahead (side note: this was in Puerto Rico, we drive on the right) turns out it was a left ONLY lane (there were no markings at all) when the lights change and we start to move off, I managed to move off and fit into a gap between the two cars beside whilst using the horn to attract attention to myself and my manouvre, slightly cutting them up, but they didn't seem too bothered and were more understanding of the situation luckily.
At 2:35 it would have been bad enough parking on the zig zags but parking on the actual crossing takes it to another level. I wonder also how many approaching drivers would be "switched on" enough in that situation to slow right down, cover the brake and look out for crossing pedestrians. I suspect many would not recognise this hazard.
The clip @ 5:49 the cyclist may have gone through on a green light judging by how slow he was going and as he stopped at the next lights this could well be the case .
Nah, don't think so. There's a good few seconds before the viewer's light goes green and the cyclist still isn't in frame. At best it was amber, but at the speed he was travelling he would have had no trouble stopping. There's no excuse for it. I suspect he stopped at the next one because he was a little woken up by nearly being hit...
Classic elephant racing in the last clip, effectively bunching everyone else up in the outside lane to get past. Forget about smart speed limits and other gimmicks, address that issue and it''ll do a lot more to reduce congestion.
At 2:07, I can't recall ever seeing a quad on the roads. One other thing from that clip. The white van is well over the stop line and partly into the junction on a red light.
With the cyclist I don't think it was the case here as the distances involved aren't quite far enough, but bear in mind quite often the timings on lights are set based on motor vehicle speeds and if there's a reasonable distance between the stop line and junction (in the example here the cyclist has covered something like 20-25m when they pass in front of the car) a cyclist going through on green can still be in the junction when other lights turn green. Either way good job by the cammer. There's a junction I go through fairly often that if you're doing 12-ish mph and pass over the stop live as the lights turn from green to amber (not even red) the lights for the side road change to green as you're passing it.
@@AmosAnnon " I'm concerned that the A-pillar comment came across as an excuse for not looking properly." I don't think Ashley would excuse any driver for not looking correctly because of an A-pillar blind spot. He has stated before that it's up to the driver to move their position to eliminate blind spots like this. What he is mentioning, though, is how these blind spots can still increase risk because even though drivers SHOULD be moving they often don't, therefore you should take extra care, also.
when I was young and reckless, I could cross a 5 lane junction in between the time the lights turned yellow and they turned red. I've never been able to run quite as fast as a cyclist could ride. if you enter the junction on green, and it turns red before you get across, you're going pretty slow.
@@Pattoe it's pretty easy for a moving cyclist to render the driver's attempts to change angle to look around the A-pillar futile. this is where Ashley's "have they seen me?" exercise comes into play. if you're approaching a car and you've never seen the driver's head, the pauli exclusion principle doesn't care if they did the neck exercises you demand all motorists do at all times or not. they haven't seen you.
@@kenbrown2808 For the junction I'm thinking of Traffic Signs Manual - Chapter 6 gives an intergreen time of 5 or 6 seconds (the measurement could go either way). Travelling at the design speed for cyclists of 20kmph from the same document it would take just over 5 seconds to travel from the stop line to clearing the potential collision point.
Green to green traffic light timings are generally based on _pedestrian_ speeds. DfT Traffic Signs Manual: "6.5.2. Intergreen values for an individual junction are calculated based on the site geometry and pedestrian walking speed and will vary from site to site."
At 2:50, ah yes a good old multi lane roundabout scenario. I'm always on very high alert with those types of roundabouts and try to practice Ashley's advice of driving in a staggered formation, though not always possible. I'm also ready to take a second lap of the roundabout as a backup evasive manouvre
Not only roundabouts, Ashley always advises motorists to drive in a staggered formation. Driving in that manner is lane hogging. You should keep up with the flow of traffic
Agreed. It's not wise to drive next to a lorry unless you can very quickly get out of there as well. To be fair, it is difficult to form a nice staggered formation when there's traffic lights and queueing on the roundabout itself. If you sit and let the slow lorry go in front of you, the angry Audi or BMW driver behind you will start beeping and gesticulating. Notice that the silver car was keeping staggered formation, and left a bit of room for the black car if he needed to come right and escape collision.
@@FlavourlessLife Absolutely spot on that by sensibly holding back to maintain a staggered position, it can really annoy a driver behind who doesn't understand this principle. It's quite satisfying though when the vehicle ahead in the next lane does indeed come across your path, demonstrating to the impatient driver behind the reason for one's apparent "slowness".
I was dead chuffed the other day…saw a car in lane 1 of 3 indicating right and called it that they would eventually being taking the motorway exit at the 9 o’clock position on the roundabout! Just the two lanes out of position then…
l believe many problem are escalated unnecessarily. For instance if you make a mistake... as we all do from time to time... especially with being in a wrong lane, Its up to you to wait for following drivers to allow you the change/merge, perhaps acknowledge with polite wave... anger defused. On the other hand there isn't very much that can be done about Red Light jumpers and inpatient manoeuvring involving inappropriate overtaking.... and obvious queue jumping...Ashley highlights just some of the bad habits plus the need to be far more polite and considerate ..and tolerant where the situation demands... As opposed to shouting abuse and leaning on the horn!
Regarding the lorry coming off at 2.37, inexcusable of course, but it's a very poorly signed junction. Unfortunately something like that happens every few minutes. I've learned to drive in a staggered formation and show a lot of patience.
Just a question for the last clip. Would it have been beneficial for the lorry in the left lane to slow down? Or was the blue lorry in their blind spot?
@@manu-tonyo9654 I’m not blaming the left lorry driver. I’m saying that surely it would be better for all cars on the motorway to drive in a staggered formation.
Statistics prove that you are far more likely to have a RTC within the first two years of driving. No surprise that the Premiums are so high for younger drivers. Stay safe out there.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The "punishments" for this kind of driving is nowhere near enough of a deterrent. Tiny fines and a couple of points? Not enough! Especially for those who drive for a living - They need their licences revoked at a minimum. The lorry driver in the last clip needs jail time. It's time to start putting people before profit!
5:28 In fairness to the P-plater: while this was undeniably poor driving, it looks like they haven't been taught how to overtake properly. This could've been a perfectly safe manoeuvre, but they were too far back, were probably in the wrong gear, and clearly didn't understand their car's capabilities well enough. Overtaking on a single carriageway is a skill, but one that I (for one) had to teach myself after passing my test. It's something that everyone will have to do eventually, so why does it seem to be an uncommon thing to teach on lessons?
That's a good point. I had to demonstrate a single carriageway overtake on the IAM advanced driving test, but not my regular test. If it's not part of the test, then it won't be taught and practised. The other thing new drivers forget, is when they fill their car with mates, the extra weight means it doesn't go round bends as well or accelerate/brake as quickly. I think all new drivers should be required to have a go on a skid pan and experience sudden loss of grip.
That last clip is horrendous. Running someone off the road just to get to their destination... I expect people to do this all the time on motorways now though sadly. EVERY motorway journey I see people cut from the outside lane all the way across to a slip road. It's baffling how they don't understand how dangerous that is. Or they just don't care.
2:37-2:56 Very familiar with that roundabout. But it is also a complete nightmare! With the amount of driving fails that happens, you could pull up a chair, grab some snacks and drinks and watch at your own pleasure, lol.
Great content as always, The only issue I have with the last clip is the lorry then trying to merge back on to the motorway, I'd of just continued off at the junction and rejoined on the other side.
At around 6:45 with the red van skipping the queue by driving on the wrong side as well as running the red light. Ironically, I reckon some drivers feel less hard done by via this manouvre than the merge in turn situation!
Wow wasn't expecting my clip, lots of horn due to being protective of my expensive car 😅🤣 (23 years old driver) Will add this is an old clip being I'm 24 and my driving has definitely changed and less horn would be used now
5:29 I wonder if their lessons involved any guidance in overtaking at all? Mine certainly didn't. Looks like a potential judgement error from lack of experience rather than knowing recklessness. Hopefully lesson learned now...
05:48 I never understand P plates because bad drivers will just treat you badly if you've got them on, good drivers will treat you well regardless, but I really don't understand. "oh I'm not a great driver so I'll stick some P-plates on so other road users understand if I'm a bit slow or make the odd mistake" then drive recklessly like a really confident joyboy.
2:175:08 Crazy to see this junction here twice - it's part of my commute! With both lanes turning right, it happens every time that drivers will choose the right lane and then decide they want to come left immediately after the right turn, and I'll let them in. But I've never seen anyone use the right lane to go straight on here, that's new 😂
Wow that first clip was close 😨5:08 that Range Rover is a really nice blue 😍 Wow that lorry at the end was a shocking bit of driving, his a danger to everyone else on the road especially being in such a large vehicle
00:52 - that type of incident should lead to, at the very least, a ten year ban from driving (and a ten year prison sentence if caught driving without a license). Otherwise that type of driver will end up killing someone.
Not sure if it is distracted driving or confused driving. Slowing the video down and pausing the driver is looking forward but the sun appears to be in there eyesight so I wonder if they overtook the parked cars and didn’t realise they were also on hatched markings then thought the lines were the edge of the road? Still dangerous regardless
I wondered about this, and sun in eyes as others mentioned. Could also be a combo of opportunistically using a gap behind the motorcycle to pull over or get to a driveway, and a disregard for or lack of awareness of the motorcyclist being there.
Speaking of impatience like that minibus driver, I was in a queue today, the traffic moved off on a roadworks green that was a good couple of hundred yards ahead. Before that and just 20 yards in front of me is a chicane over which I had priority. The other side and coming today me was an artic wanting to turn right into a yard. To ease his day I let him go,only to be hooted at by the bus behind me for not dashing up to wait at the lights which had once more gone red stopping the two vans who had been in front of me. So, basically the bus thought I should go and to hell with the lorry just to wait at a red light... Wonder what my brother would've had to say about the standard of modern bus drivers.
02:40, the lanes were changed when they were repainted, that lane 1 used to be able to go right as well. It was really bad, hopefully this newer design will improve it, however some will have to change their habits…
Lorries are always doing that on the m20 and a2!! Sometimes even having lorries overtaking each other in all 4 lanes. I also get lorries trying to force me to drive higher than 50 when it is restricted
Parking on zigzag is instant 3 points (one of the times where police will issue you a ticket vs yellow lines witch is a council matter) never park on zigzags (yellow is fine if no wardens around and you got 7 minutes if they are there unless yhere is 2 paint strips on the kerb then it's a instant ticket that includes park anywhere bluebadge owners)
Yes! if someone stopped to let him flow another one or two cars behide would not get through the lights, who will that help flow for? - the advice should be to the driver who may of made a accidental mistake to help the traffic flow by rerouting yourself in that situation.
I'd fully agree, if a pilot with 300+ people on board can "go around", so can you. Yes it's a pain, and for some road users it may not be possible (HGV's contending with low bridges / weight restrictions) , but for most, it's simply a case of turning around and trying again. PS Anyone going southbound on the M11, do make sure you take junction 10 if you're not sure.
I don't think Ashley was discounting the poor RR driving. The point is that the junction wouldn't have been blocked up for as long as it was had someone backed off and let them finish.
The clip from around 1:23, why do folks even consider such dangerous overtakes in the first place rather than just chill out, take it easy and hang back. Sooner or later, this impatience is going to catch up with them.
5:50 this cyclist may well have run through a red light, but they stop for the next red light, so they don't seem to be a reckless rider. We can't see the lights from the cyclist's direction, so unlike the pedestrian in the Glasgow video, it's not possible to say for sure they went through on red. This is outside 1 Lyric Square, there's 18m from the stop line in the cyclists direction to the junction and only 8m from the driver's direction. They are riding very slowly and it could be that the timing of the lights is too short for them to cover that distance. Interestingly, this junction used to have a give-way line in the car direction, you can see its outline on the road. [edit: the cyclist seems to be going hard on the pedals as they pass the junction, perhaps they had slowed for the pedestrian that stepped out some distance from the crossing point and that delayed them getting through the lights]
This is what I thought, could be the lights were green when he went through, the ones ahead are green too, so as far as he's concerned they're all still green.
Car transporter drivers are dreadful I had one reverse the wrong way down a dual carriageway into my car because he was held up by a vehicle broken down. When I said to him couldn't he hear my horn or see behind him he just dismissed any responsibility and became aggressive. It's what prompted me to get dash cams for both my cars
At 7:20 cutting the corner when turning right seems to be the exception rather than the rule. I'd imagine it's even more common at this particular junction as the shallow angle pretty much encourages it. And if you are diligent enough to not cut the corner, it can actually annoy the driver behind you in similar fashion as when you properly go around a mini roundabout.
@@manu-tonyo9654you can get insured for a motorcycle/scooter thats 124cc or less with up to 14.7hp with only a CBT, and most companies don't ask for proof of that.
I'm not defending the "red light jumping" cyclist at all, but are we certain he jumped a red? It could be that he made the very poor decision to race through an amber, only to then go slowly through the rest of the junction. This can happen if you've got a headwind or there's an incline. I think jumping ambers like this should also be illegal (and probably is). I wouldn't be surprised if you can get pulled over for reckless cycling (or driving, if you're in a car) I used to race through ambers but have since changed the way I cycle and treat an amber as a red light, only going through them if it's a green light and it switches to amber if I'm very close and stopping would be unsafe. I find that patience increases safety a great deal. (Not related to the clip shown) Stopping at ambers on a bike can be risky too, especially if you're taking up a primary position like you should when you're navigating a junction, as drivers behind you will step on the accelerator to try and race through them, and if you start braking, you can get rear-ended. I use my ears and pull over to secondary if I hear a car behind me revving. I shouldn't have to, but I'd rather not be ran over just to make a point.
Most of those clips are valid enough to be shared with the police for prosecution in my experience - in advance of them being made public however, desk based policing isn’t ideal but it’s a start to get those that do this kind of stuff sent off on an awareness course or punished more harshly if they continue…
I'm not saying the learner in 8:43 did a good emerge, but with it being a liveried learner car I would have expected better from the cammer rather than blasting the horn in the way that they did. That road had 2 lanes and it was quite obvious the learner wanted to emerge, the cammer could have moved into lane 2 (based on the fact nothing went past when the cammer did an emergency stop I assume it would have been clear to do so) Too many people use the horn as a stress ball in retribution, that's not what the horn is for. That cammer's actions could easily have spooked the learner in that situation, potentially putting them off learning altogether. A couple of honks when the learner is about to move off would have sufficed, and moving to lane 2 would have been no problem.
Mums gone to Asda, in her little silver car. You can tell by its position in the lane to expect something. Poor overthinking, the Jag and the later clip. Should know better. Double trouble. That big blue truck at the end….could have easily been very nasty. Hats off to the cammer.
I caught one of your cars jumping a red light the other day on Kensington turning to go to edge lane... Silver Corsa or maybe fiesta. Wish I had a dash cam.
Red lights only mean stop to the sixth car in line and as for the full white line telling you where to stop at lights, thats only for the second car in line (try getting a bus round the corner when this happens)!! Also, a new made-up rule, you can make two lines of traffic taking up half of the opposite sides road so you can be in pole position
2:54 interestingly I saw a lorry do stop on the roundabout then reverse back to take the exit he had just missed, and the road was a 60 limit so if someone was approaching quickly that could have been lethal. And my view of the roundabout was then restricted.
Wow perfect timing! You inspired me to make a video recently all about extra driver training and why it's so important after passing the original test 😊
Short of paying for extra tuition, it’s worth ‘copping’ yourself a copy of ‘Roadcraft : The police driver/rider’s handbook’, if you haven’t done already. It has plenty of excellent supplementary information for safer/progressive driving - consider them extra tools in your arsenal worthy of consideration.
@@nuttyslack I've got to be careful here as don't want to "advertise" on Ashley's video. However, that's exactly what I recommend in my advanced driving video. Having completed Masters, Roadcraft was something I studied. I totally agree with your recommendation, a lot of useful nuggets of information in there ☺️
@@amyk9813 Huge well done on taking and completing the Masters. I took and passed the initial advanced course last year. However, similar to DVSA test, I felt as though the real learning and refinement came after I had passed. Also, nice fretting. Thanks for getting back.
5:12 I'm with Ashley. Of course, as many have pointed out, turning as committed is the most correct way of fixing a mistaken lane choice - a growing problem as many junctions like this one have been widened. But there was nothing aggressive about the Range Rover driver's request, and surely a bit of grace was due at least from the blue van driver who'd just run a red at a slow enough speed to stop safely. If the RR driver had made the right turn, that's a choice, but I would rather it were done from polite consideration than from fear of triggering some prat with a dashcam and a big gob.
At 7:10 - OK, that's not a map, not anything you NEED to interact with. That guy either needs to be immediately forced to retrain or fired - if he's that slapdash with driving rules, what's he like with security procedures? Also, those vans are NEVER operated by only one person, for a number of reasons. If the paperwork is urgent, give it to the passenger or other crew. If it has to be filled out by you, swap drivers.
That was my clip 😊 I tried to reach out to G4S about it. I made it clear I had no interest in getting anyone in trouble, but that G4S have to make sure this sort of thing doesn't happen. I'm not at all excusing the driver here because he absolutely should not be doing his paperwork while driving on the motorway. But maybe G4S don't allow sufficient time in their day, or maybe the guy is a family man and relies on his wages to put food on the table. So all I wanted was for G4S management to take it seriously and be constructive about it. You know what happened? Absolutely nothing. In fact they just fobbed me off at the first opportunity. I was very tempted to just send it in to the Police as a result. But my concerns about the driver stopped me from doing so. I'm not entirely sure I made the right decision!
@@brianhoskins1979 You are a magnanimous person, but if the guy is relying on his job to feed his family, he shouldn't put it at risk by endangering others. G4S's attitude is awful however, even if they planned on doing nothing, their lack of response shows contempt and I feel very concerned at how that might play out if their are accidents in future.
1:56 so many things wrong with this video aside from the red light non-compliance. No number plates on the quad bike, and why was that van waiting on the pedestrian crossing?
Lorry overtakes seem to be like dual where both lorrys won't lift off the gas to let the other overtake..I've seen it on motorways and dual carriage ways where both lorrys will block both lanes, its about as unprofessional and dangerous as it gets.
Once they've passed their test, they'll tend towards driving like their parents, like they've tried to do throughout all their lessons. It has been absorbed over the previous 17 years.
There's also an element of bravado about it, be it getting egged on by passengers to "go for it" or showing off to said passengers. There is also a lot of ignorance and arrogance. Ignorance to the capabilities of their car and arrogance that they can do what they like regardless.
I'm quite glad I didn't pass until I was nearly 30. It's easier to avoid the sort of pressure younger drivers feel from their mates or parents to take silly risks or stubbornly holding onto their values.
@jakerockznoodles, yeah, I just got mine, and I'm 23. I was pressured a lot to get mine when I was younger, but I wasn't comfortable, nor did I feel ready. I'm glad I waited though because I got mine when I didn't have much stress going on in life. Made things a lot easier
The clip at 8:06 is a junction I know well. That minibus will have either carried children from a special school or people from a care home. Absolutely disgusting
that artic at the end was lethal! should have his haulage license revoked fully and a prosecution for the dangerous maneuver. doesn't matter what vehicle in my book you should be in the correct lane 3/4 a mile before the junction when it comes to motorways.
The wandering onto the rumble strip on the left suggests the white lorry was also either tired or distracted even before the blue lorries actions come into play… 9:47
6:51 - that's the eastern end of the Cat and Fiddle (A54). Annoying to see an overtake there being made so badly, as I regularly use that exact place to overtake, because you can see SO much of the oncoming road (eg. where the cammer is) for SO long. If you look to the right as the double-whites become dashed on your side (westbound) you can see all the way to the crest about 550 metres away, so there's no excuse for overtaking "blind" there o_o
That last one was awful. We all make mistakes, sure. But I drive lorries. I sometimes overtake in the last mile or 1/2 mile before a motorway exit I'm taking. But all the way through it, I'm judging if I can make it. If I can't do it safely, I indicate left, back off and tuck back in behind. It extends your time before the slip road by all of about 2-3 seconds, normally.
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That last clip is actually criminal. needs reporting to the police ASAP for dangerous driving. It's without due care as a minimum!
I don't have much doubt they would have done the same to any vehicle, car, van, etc... and run them off the road, or even over them.
Someone following the viewers lorry would presume that it was the white lorry at fault, because they wouldn't have seen the blue lorry force it there.
Either that or another driver behind isn't totally paying attention when traffic is forced to slow to deal with this and there is a pileup. Of course when that happens, the lorry driver can sit listening to the radio being grateful that he's already passed the accident and bemoaning the state of drivers on the roads and wishing they were all as good and safe as him.
It was date stamped June 22 - It think we might have missed our moment for reporting it
@@chris107892 Would the relevant Police Service do so anyway given that the blue lorry is on Irish plates?
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In the last clip, since the lorry on the left had been forced off the road, it would have been safer to continue up the slip road and rejoin the motorway from the roundabout. Mind you, the HGV on the right deserves to be reported for dangerous driving. At the very least, his employer needs to see this footage.
From my own experience, company bosses aren't bothered... It's only when the police get in touch, and they do get in touch, that the bosses are motivated to admonish their employees, with a letter of notice and a not entirely glowing letter of reference.
I've twice been in collisions from other peoples' dangerous driving, and I have no qualms about reporting vehicles being driven in this manner.
@@whitesapphire5865 bet the driver could barely speak English, I tend to find if driven like that they're usually foreign and agency.
@@johnbower7452 That would not surprise me in the least bit. Like anything else that's cheap, it's going to be substandard, not fit for purpose and downright lethal!
I had exactly the same thought. Far safer to continue up the exit and rejoin the motorway. Especially as that would have been on a downslope, making it easier to pick up speed for a safe merge, instead of struggling back, from a standing start and uphill.
The infamous merge in turn trigger when you pass someone and they then focus on retribution rather than driving.
Quite often I see them a mile off and ease off the throttle, tuck back in behind then and all Insee is them braking so they don’t hit the vehicle in front as they were going too fast and then looking in the mirror most likely shouting obscenities that I cannot hear.
Oh well, if they are in that much of a hurry, they can stay in front. No issue with me. Easier to keep an eye on them 👍
As a rule, I prefer to have any kind of bad driver in front of me than behind me.
At around 8:16, don't you just love it when you slow down for a genuine hazard but a driver behind either thinks differently or totally fails to recognise the hazard. Pulling over for emergency vehicles is another common situation where that happens.
True, but in all defence, most of the times you just have some idiot in front that is doing weird maneuvers for no reason. It's not that often that people actually slow down or brake for a good reason unfortunately.
I've lost count of the number of times I've seen a person pull over for emergency services, and the person behind them thinks it's for them.
I'm constantly amazed how oblivious so many drivers are to flashing blue lights and sirens - either oblivious or they just don't care. I'm not sure which is worse.
I"m loving it.
Especially if they have to back up all the way, cause plenty of damage to their own car by hitting obstacles that are unmovable and are unlikely to be damaged......
Yes, those kinds of situations i love.
Obviously not when it is an emergency vehicle coming from the other side who has to now wait for this dipstick to backup.
BUT, all other cases, yes sir, i am loving it. I got the time anyway.
And it is always a wonderful sight to see, their face and how they struggle to get back in line to give room for the oncoming traffic or what ever is happening at the moment.
Just yesterday i was in Antwerpen. In a small boxtruck.
There was a truck-trailer backing into a space, but it didnt fit. He was trying for quite some time and had us all stopped.
And then you see the Belgians go over the cycle lanes, over the footpaths, everywhere they can go, just to get out of there.
Me? I just step out and smoke a cig.
Who cares?
@@Asto508 Or reasons they see that you do not. Does that make their caution no “good” reason?
I've had something very similar happen to me whilst I was on a delivery run with the company I work for. I'm limited to 56mph and was forced onto the hard shoulder, and to keep safe, I just took the exit the lorry was also taking. Terrifying moment, but I'd rather go the wrong way than risk being killed due to someone's terrible driving.
7:27 Thank you Ashley, not enough people point out horn use, it was definitely excessive amount of horn use in that scenario, glad it worked out though.
I dunno, you need to make sure they know it's a danger blast rather than a friendly toot
@shm5547 in this case the contributer posted their own comment that it was an older clip and in hindsight it was excessive.
I do this, pressing on the horn too long, it's something I need to work on. Sometimes though, when you're being run off the road by someone with terrible planning or observations, you feel like you just can't help it. Still, must try harder.
@@shm5547halfway between the actual horn blast and a toot would suffice...
@@harrilittle if i drove, the longer your honking your horn at me the longer im gonna wait till you stop before driving off lol.
1;)14 absolutely mental. I don't think I've ever seen a clip of a lorry driver that deserved to immediately lose their license as much as that one.
0:13 Every time I'm approaching a truck with a car behind it, I'm abundantly aware that it may be waiting for a gap to pull out into and I'll slow down just in case. On thing you learn from riding a motorbike is: People don't look.
A motorcycle also seems to be really good to teach it's rider the mindset of "I may have the right of way and be right but what does that matter when I'm under the hood of a car?"
@@chunkyrabbit1032 That is a _really_ interesting difference between two-wheelers...
People on bicycles often ride like nobody on the road can hurt them, people on motorcycles usually assume that every other road user is a professional assassin hired to take them out. I have yet to understand why that is - because both are similarily vulnarable.
@@QemeH my assumption as to why that would be is that a motorcycle goes much faster than cyclists
@@QemeH If you understand that every other road user is a professional assassin you stop pedalling your bicycle to get around.
@@ribbonsofnight Interesting. That would also explain why cyclists are usually the most vocal advocates at urban design meetings - you either get scared out of cycling or get angry about design that is killing you. Makes sense, actually...
But it does not explain why motorcyclists do NOT get scared out of it, but rather it makes them just cautious.
I am loath to criticize the other driver in the final clip, but I personally would not attempt to rejoin the carriageway in that situation. Overall he did well in responce to a true idiot though.
I think had I been the camera driver, once I saw the mess forming, I would have been looking to move a lane over and getting off the throttle. if there was a need to stop, I could stop after the crash.
It's a roundabout at the top of the slip road, so continuing up that and back on to the motorway looks like a good option but I did think that the cammer could have made that a little better - assuming there was nothing preventing the lane change. That notwithstanding, the culprit was clearly driving the blue artic.
The guy in the last clip did safely attempt his I'll advised remerge.
I drive an artic , i once had another artic trying to overtake me ,when he eventually got alongside me he beeped and pointed that he wanted the
exit we were coming up to , cheeky huh , so he had to slow and pull in behind to make his exit . if im within 2 miles of my exit and im catching another truck i dont try to overtake as i may not make it in time , simple huh.
I'm not sure if that cyclist did run the red, I think they were simply too slow. Their failure was to proceed through the junction in good time as other (local) commenters have pointed out the lights are actually a little further to the right than you'd expect from the footage.
The fact they stopped at the next set definitely makes me think this.
It's hard to say without seeing it, but maybe it was just a poor decision to continue when the Aamber showed instead of stopping. The worrying thing is when the car got close to them they didn't even seem to glance at the car, as if they were going through the lights without paying any attention to other traffic.
A note about that passed driver overtaking on country roads 5:27
I don't think I ever did any overtakes on them kind of roads during lessons, pretty much everything was urban driving
So it could just be a lack of judgement if they havnt had much expierence judging how much space is actually needed to overtake at that kind of speeds
I did an overtake like that a couple weeks ago thinking I had plenty time, wasn't quite as bad as that tho
Not as bad as that but I've had a couple of instances where for whatever reason the car didn't give the power I'd normally expect on an overtake - I'd have aborted though in that situation there was plenty of space.
What I see a lot of lately is people speeding up after someone(s) has committed to overtaking them - I don't think it malicious just a lack of attention and complete lacking of awareness of how stupid and dangerous their subsequent action is.
At 5:20, you give sound advice about do your best to accommodate flow re the blue Range Rover in the right turn lane but wanting to go straight ahead. The flip side of this (and also to accommodate flow) would be from the Range Rovers perspective. Namely, if you are in the wrong lane, carry on in the correct direction for that lane and get back on your intended route some other way safely.
It was Warrington, at the junction where there is a college and retail park. The junction is well marked out, so couldn't have mistaken it. If wrong lane used, they could have carried on and there is a roundabout a minute away....
That is what I have always done. Quite a few times I have found myself in the wrong lane in new areas (before Sat Nav) and rather than wait and force across I would either continue and turn round if traffic was about. I would rather add on 5 minutes to my journey than potentially adding 90 minutes while waiting to be towed somewhere
That’s not everybody’s mindset though
It's an alien concept to those people to just proceed and turn around at the next occasion. You may lose a few seconds but save yourself the stress. Doesn't go into their heads.
For balance and context, I know for some people going an unknown way or deviating away from where the sign says can increase stress and anxiety more than waiting to turn the correct way - even if doing that is stressful and increases anxiety but not as much as the alternative.
The anxiety I think is going to get worse for people before it gets better especially with things that have been happening recently in the world and not helped by other drivers using the reprimand horn, not merging in turn properly and generally being unaccommodating towards others that may be unfamiliar to an area and make small mistakes that can be easily rectified
If we can all do a little to help on the roads then the overall effect is massive on everyone. I had one journey recently where everyone was leaving gaps, letting people across the road and out junction, a real feel good drive and you could feel the positive energy coming from everyone. Then there are those journeys where everyone is in a rush, tailgating leaving no gaps and you can feel the negativity and tension everywhere to the point you just want to go home, lock the door and wait for another day.
If you are still reading this far apologies for the ramble but sometimes it is needed and I hope everyone understands it isn’t a grumble towards them personally but general observations 👍
Take care all
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The overtake by the new driver was ridiculous, and as someone who only passed my at the start of this year at the age of 44 (first time, 3 minors), I still hear my instructors words as I drive around!
When I’m on the road I do feel the seething from folk behind me as I dare to drive at the speed limit. You can sit up my arse and shake your head all you like pal, my foot ain’t going closer to the floor so you can get to Tesco 30 seconds sooner.
Welcome to the club! I too got my license in my forties. Now I'm a professional driver and enjoying it very much.
At 5:12, my issue is not that the Range Rover has made a lane choice error, it's that they don't stop at the lights (as they are changing). From there, put a signal on and try to make eye/verbal contact with the driver to their left - many drivers are OK with letting you out PROVIDED they can see you want to change. If that doesn't work/if they had already gone through the lights, why not slow to a crawl so that the TWO vehicles on the left move on, then calmly move across no hassle? No one else is behind them to cause panic.
Very good point on the Range Rover stopping for the light changing. They could easily have stopped in the cycle area before the second white line so that’s what they should have done. There is no dispensation for continuing through an advanced stop line traffic light on amber like there is for “normal” traffic lights.
How good are the police in the UK at enforcing driving rules? In the US they seem mostly worried about speeding and stopping at red lights and stop signs. Id like to see more enforcement.
The cyclist overtake at the beginning of the video is in Woodhouse in north Leicestershire. During rush hour there's often long lines of traffic stuck behind cyclists there, especially in the summer. What that driver did there happens every time.
If it happened that often in rush hour then there would surely be many deaths of cyclists there.
Ah yes at around 0:40, I have similarly had other drivers triggered when I time my arrival at traffic lights as they turn green whereas they have to move off from a standing start in the next lane. Particularly if the other driver previously overtook me, prior to the traffic lights.
Everytime I approach a set of lights I approach them at a slow pace to give the lights time to change and if they haven't changed by the time I have to stop I leave enough room in front of me to creep forwards when they do change.
I also wonder how it had ended up stopped on the crossing too.
I was in the wrong lane accidentally the other week, I thought it was right lane ahead and right, left for left only, turns out it was the other way and it's the next set of lights that are how I thought. Lights changed and as the first few cars moved I saw the road markings ( side note.. on road markings are F*ing useless when are frequent queues, councils PLEASE put actual signs up on both sides as well because when lorries are there you can't see the ones on the left only...)
So anyway, as the first few cars moved I saw the actual markings and that I was in a right only lane, but in the left after the two cars was a lorry who looked heavy as he has started to set off but was crawling away... so I had to do what I had to do, I was well past by the time I moved over and pulling away steady so I didn't cut him up or anything or force him to do anything crazy... I felt a bit guilty at skipping the 1.5 mile queue in that ahead and left lane because I normally moan about such behaviour, I had to imagine the lorry driver was either laughing his ass off at how easy I slipped in, or cursing yet another car wanker.
@@kal9001 Happened to me once a few months ago, I arrive at the lights and there's three lanes, my destination was on the left after the lights and so I chose the left most lane thinking it could go left or ahead (side note: this was in Puerto Rico, we drive on the right) turns out it was a left ONLY lane (there were no markings at all) when the lights change and we start to move off, I managed to move off and fit into a gap between the two cars beside whilst using the horn to attract attention to myself and my manouvre, slightly cutting them up, but they didn't seem too bothered and were more understanding of the situation luckily.
@@ts757arse Uninterested, not disinterested. Those words don't mean the same thing.
At 2:35 it would have been bad enough parking on the zig zags but parking on the actual crossing takes it to another level. I wonder also how many approaching drivers would be "switched on" enough in that situation to slow right down, cover the brake and look out for crossing pedestrians. I suspect many would not recognise this hazard.
And also blocking the sightlines to and from the junction on the left immediately after.
The clip @ 5:49 the cyclist may have gone through on a green light judging by how slow he was going and as he stopped at the next lights this could well be the case .
Nah, don't think so. There's a good few seconds before the viewer's light goes green and the cyclist still isn't in frame. At best it was amber, but at the speed he was travelling he would have had no trouble stopping.
There's no excuse for it.
I suspect he stopped at the next one because he was a little woken up by nearly being hit...
0:40 What was his problem? The cammer did nothing at all wrong! Does the passat driver just not like being overtaken?
yes that's literally it, plus they wanted to get ahead of the cammer before the lanes merged so he can save 0.4 seconds of journey time
ahh i just did an unbelievably dangerous overtake on a single carriageway at night... i feel so f'in stupid, cant forgive myself for it... shocking
Classic elephant racing in the last clip, effectively bunching everyone else up in the outside lane to get past. Forget about smart speed limits and other gimmicks, address that issue and it''ll do a lot more to reduce congestion.
If it *was* an examiner in the passenger seat on that second to last clip, the driver has just failed their test ...
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At 2:07, I can't recall ever seeing a quad on the roads. One other thing from that clip. The white van is well over the stop line and partly into the junction on a red light.
Seems to depend if the driver is wearing a helmet, the ones with no safety gear tend to be the idiots - probably have no insurance either.
With the cyclist I don't think it was the case here as the distances involved aren't quite far enough, but bear in mind quite often the timings on lights are set based on motor vehicle speeds and if there's a reasonable distance between the stop line and junction (in the example here the cyclist has covered something like 20-25m when they pass in front of the car) a cyclist going through on green can still be in the junction when other lights turn green. Either way good job by the cammer.
There's a junction I go through fairly often that if you're doing 12-ish mph and pass over the stop live as the lights turn from green to amber (not even red) the lights for the side road change to green as you're passing it.
@@AmosAnnon " I'm concerned that the A-pillar comment came across as an excuse for not looking properly." I don't think Ashley would excuse any driver for not looking correctly because of an A-pillar blind spot. He has stated before that it's up to the driver to move their position to eliminate blind spots like this. What he is mentioning, though, is how these blind spots can still increase risk because even though drivers SHOULD be moving they often don't, therefore you should take extra care, also.
when I was young and reckless, I could cross a 5 lane junction in between the time the lights turned yellow and they turned red. I've never been able to run quite as fast as a cyclist could ride. if you enter the junction on green, and it turns red before you get across, you're going pretty slow.
@@Pattoe it's pretty easy for a moving cyclist to render the driver's attempts to change angle to look around the A-pillar futile. this is where Ashley's "have they seen me?" exercise comes into play. if you're approaching a car and you've never seen the driver's head, the pauli exclusion principle doesn't care if they did the neck exercises you demand all motorists do at all times or not. they haven't seen you.
@@kenbrown2808 For the junction I'm thinking of Traffic Signs Manual - Chapter 6 gives an intergreen time of 5 or 6 seconds (the measurement could go either way). Travelling at the design speed for cyclists of 20kmph from the same document it would take just over 5 seconds to travel from the stop line to clearing the potential collision point.
Green to green traffic light timings are generally based on _pedestrian_ speeds. DfT Traffic Signs Manual: "6.5.2. Intergreen values for an individual junction are calculated based on the site geometry and pedestrian walking speed and will vary from site to site."
At 2:50, ah yes a good old multi lane roundabout scenario. I'm always on very high alert with those types of roundabouts and try to practice Ashley's advice of driving in a staggered formation, though not always possible. I'm also ready to take a second lap of the roundabout as a backup evasive manouvre
Not only roundabouts, Ashley always advises motorists to drive in a staggered formation. Driving in that manner is lane hogging. You should keep up with the flow of traffic
Agreed. It's not wise to drive next to a lorry unless you can very quickly get out of there as well. To be fair, it is difficult to form a nice staggered formation when there's traffic lights and queueing on the roundabout itself. If you sit and let the slow lorry go in front of you, the angry Audi or BMW driver behind you will start beeping and gesticulating.
Notice that the silver car was keeping staggered formation, and left a bit of room for the black car if he needed to come right and escape collision.
@@FlavourlessLife Absolutely spot on that by sensibly holding back to maintain a staggered position, it can really annoy a driver behind who doesn't understand this principle. It's quite satisfying though when the vehicle ahead in the next lane does indeed come across your path, demonstrating to the impatient driver behind the reason for one's apparent "slowness".
I was dead chuffed the other day…saw a car in lane 1 of 3 indicating right and called it that they would eventually being taking the motorway exit at the 9 o’clock position on the roundabout! Just the two lanes out of position then…
That is a terrible roundabout. Only terrible because of how people drive around it. It's at the Redbridge tube station in Illford
l believe many problem are escalated unnecessarily. For instance if you make a mistake... as we all do from time to time... especially with being in a wrong lane, Its up to you to wait for following drivers to allow you the change/merge, perhaps acknowledge with polite wave... anger defused. On the other hand there isn't very much that can be done about Red Light jumpers and inpatient manoeuvring involving inappropriate overtaking.... and obvious queue jumping...Ashley highlights just some of the bad habits plus the need to be far more polite and considerate ..and tolerant where the situation demands... As opposed to shouting abuse and leaning on the horn!
Regarding the lorry coming off at 2.37, inexcusable of course, but it's a very poorly signed junction. Unfortunately something like that happens every few minutes. I've learned to drive in a staggered formation and show a lot of patience.
Just a question for the last clip.
Would it have been beneficial for the lorry in the left lane to slow down? Or was the blue lorry in their blind spot?
How would they be expected to know the idiot is about to ignore all his training, and they did slow down otherwise it would have been a major crash.
@@manu-tonyo9654 I’m not blaming the left lorry driver. I’m saying that surely it would be better for all cars on the motorway to drive in a staggered formation.
Statistics prove that you are far more likely to have a RTC within the first two years of driving. No surprise that the Premiums are so high for younger drivers.
Stay safe out there.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The "punishments" for this kind of driving is nowhere near enough of a deterrent. Tiny fines and a couple of points? Not enough! Especially for those who drive for a living - They need their licences revoked at a minimum. The lorry driver in the last clip needs jail time.
It's time to start putting people before profit!
5:28 In fairness to the P-plater: while this was undeniably poor driving, it looks like they haven't been taught how to overtake properly. This could've been a perfectly safe manoeuvre, but they were too far back, were probably in the wrong gear, and clearly didn't understand their car's capabilities well enough. Overtaking on a single carriageway is a skill, but one that I (for one) had to teach myself after passing my test. It's something that everyone will have to do eventually, so why does it seem to be an uncommon thing to teach on lessons?
That's a good point. I had to demonstrate a single carriageway overtake on the IAM advanced driving test, but not my regular test. If it's not part of the test, then it won't be taught and practised.
The other thing new drivers forget, is when they fill their car with mates, the extra weight means it doesn't go round bends as well or accelerate/brake as quickly. I think all new drivers should be required to have a go on a skid pan and experience sudden loss of grip.
That last clip is horrendous. Running someone off the road just to get to their destination...
I expect people to do this all the time on motorways now though sadly. EVERY motorway journey I see people cut from the outside lane all the way across to a slip road. It's baffling how they don't understand how dangerous that is. Or they just don't care.
2:37-2:56 Very familiar with that roundabout. But it is also a complete nightmare! With the amount of driving fails that happens, you could pull up a chair, grab some snacks and drinks and watch at your own pleasure, lol.
Great content as always, The only issue I have with the last clip is the lorry then trying to merge back on to the motorway, I'd of just continued off at the junction and rejoined on the other side.
At around 6:45 with the red van skipping the queue by driving on the wrong side as well as running the red light. Ironically, I reckon some drivers feel less hard done by via this manouvre than the merge in turn situation!
Seems to be a sadly growing trend with vans especially, the last minute overtaking at any lights
5:19 no mention that that BG van went through a light they clearly shouldnt have?
Wow wasn't expecting my clip, lots of horn due to being protective of my expensive car 😅🤣 (23 years old driver)
Will add this is an old clip being I'm 24 and my driving has definitely changed and less horn would be used now
5:29 I wonder if their lessons involved any guidance in overtaking at all? Mine certainly didn't. Looks like a potential judgement error from lack of experience rather than knowing recklessness. Hopefully lesson learned now...
yup, my first ever overtake was after i took my test. i only learnt how to properly overtake safely from youtube videos
0:08 is an Autobahn killer
05:48 I never understand P plates because bad drivers will just treat you badly if you've got them on, good drivers will treat you well regardless, but I really don't understand. "oh I'm not a great driver so I'll stick some P-plates on so other road users understand if I'm a bit slow or make the odd mistake" then drive recklessly like a really confident joyboy.
2:17 5:08 Crazy to see this junction here twice - it's part of my commute! With both lanes turning right, it happens every time that drivers will choose the right lane and then decide they want to come left immediately after the right turn, and I'll let them in. But I've never seen anyone use the right lane to go straight on here, that's new 😂
Wow that first clip was close 😨5:08 that Range Rover is a really nice blue 😍 Wow that lorry at the end was a shocking bit of driving, his a danger to everyone else on the road especially being in such a large vehicle
Hi Ashley, hope you have had a good day mate!.
Nice one! I hope you have had a good day also 👊
@@ashley_neal thanks!
The Irish truck is pretty standard they speed regularly and will often take junctions on the hatchings.
00:52 - that type of incident should lead to, at the very least, a ten year ban from driving (and a ten year prison sentence if caught driving without a license).
Otherwise that type of driver will end up killing someone.
At around 1:15, the white van coming down the middle across the hatch markings. Possibly distracted driving?
Not sure if it is distracted driving or confused driving. Slowing the video down and pausing the driver is looking forward but the sun appears to be in there eyesight so I wonder if they overtook the parked cars and didn’t realise they were also on hatched markings then thought the lines were the edge of the road? Still dangerous regardless
I wondered about this, and sun in eyes as others mentioned. Could also be a combo of opportunistically using a gap behind the motorcycle to pull over or get to a driveway, and a disregard for or lack of awareness of the motorcyclist being there.
2:19 I absolutely hate those set of traffic lights in Warrington. Let about 3 cars through and then you’ve got to wait ages for another turn.
Speaking of impatience like that minibus driver, I was in a queue today, the traffic moved off on a roadworks green that was a good couple of hundred yards ahead. Before that and just 20 yards in front of me is a chicane over which I had priority. The other side and coming today me was an artic wanting to turn right into a yard. To ease his day I let him go,only to be hooted at by the bus behind me for not dashing up to wait at the lights which had once more gone red stopping the two vans who had been in front of me. So, basically the bus thought I should go and to hell with the lorry just to wait at a red light... Wonder what my brother would've had to say about the standard of modern bus drivers.
The car overtaking those vans on the narrow road can do what they want…because they’re in a Jaaaaaaaaaaaagg 😂
02:40, the lanes were changed when they were repainted, that lane 1 used to be able to go right as well. It was really bad, hopefully this newer design will improve it, however some will have to change their habits…
7:38
That’s dangerous that’s dangerous I’ve had that done to me plenty of times before.
I don’t blame the use of the horn.
At 8:50, as per Ashley's comment a few clips back, somewhat less horn there I think!
In the first clip, does the black car even indicate. FYI the flashing brake light indicates the car is braking above 0.7g.
Lorries are always doing that on the m20 and a2!! Sometimes even having lorries overtaking each other in all 4 lanes.
I also get lorries trying to force me to drive higher than 50 when it is restricted
the a2 is just a nightmare it, everyone on there is very bad at driving and always very angry all the time
Parking on zigzag is instant 3 points (one of the times where police will issue you a ticket vs yellow lines witch is a council matter) never park on zigzags (yellow is fine if no wardens around and you got 7 minutes if they are there unless yhere is 2 paint strips on the kerb then it's a instant ticket that includes park anywhere bluebadge owners)
5:12 - disagree. The RR should take the right turn now as they are already too close to the junction, and reroute later.
Yes! if someone stopped to let him flow another one or two cars behide would not get through the lights, who will that help flow for? - the advice should be to the driver who may of made a accidental mistake to help the traffic flow by rerouting yourself in that situation.
I'd fully agree, if a pilot with 300+ people on board can "go around", so can you. Yes it's a pain, and for some road users it may not be possible (HGV's contending with low bridges / weight restrictions) , but for most, it's simply a case of turning around and trying again.
PS Anyone going southbound on the M11, do make sure you take junction 10 if you're not sure.
I don't think Ashley was discounting the poor RR driving. The point is that the junction wouldn't have been blocked up for as long as it was had someone backed off and let them finish.
@@user-mv5zt8qd9l Especially the last, who'd just gone through red.
At around 4:40, I apply the same principle of just hanging back and waiting for others ahead to sort out their various collective mistakes
I have the viofo a119 v3 camera and the quality at 2k is unbelievable!
The clip from around 1:23, why do folks even consider such dangerous overtakes in the first place rather than just chill out, take it easy and hang back. Sooner or later, this impatience is going to catch up with them.
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5:50 this cyclist may well have run through a red light, but they stop for the next red light, so they don't seem to be a reckless rider. We can't see the lights from the cyclist's direction, so unlike the pedestrian in the Glasgow video, it's not possible to say for sure they went through on red. This is outside 1 Lyric Square, there's 18m from the stop line in the cyclists direction to the junction and only 8m from the driver's direction. They are riding very slowly and it could be that the timing of the lights is too short for them to cover that distance. Interestingly, this junction used to have a give-way line in the car direction, you can see its outline on the road. [edit: the cyclist seems to be going hard on the pedals as they pass the junction, perhaps they had slowed for the pedestrian that stepped out some distance from the crossing point and that delayed them getting through the lights]
This is what I thought, could be the lights were green when he went through, the ones ahead are green too, so as far as he's concerned they're all still green.
Car transporter drivers are dreadful I had one reverse the wrong way down a dual carriageway into my car because he was held up by a vehicle broken down. When I said to him couldn't he hear my horn or see behind him he just dismissed any responsibility and became aggressive. It's what prompted me to get dash cams for both my cars
At 7:20 cutting the corner when turning right seems to be the exception rather than the rule. I'd imagine it's even more common at this particular junction as the shallow angle pretty much encourages it. And if you are diligent enough to not cut the corner, it can actually annoy the driver behind you in similar fashion as when you properly go around a mini roundabout.
And the scooter rider had L plates
@@frankmitchell3594 Most of them do, but where I live this does not exclude them from delivery jobs, How are they even insured?
@@manu-tonyo9654you can get insured for a motorcycle/scooter thats 124cc or less with up to 14.7hp with only a CBT, and most companies don't ask for proof of that.
I'm not defending the "red light jumping" cyclist at all, but are we certain he jumped a red? It could be that he made the very poor decision to race through an amber, only to then go slowly through the rest of the junction. This can happen if you've got a headwind or there's an incline. I think jumping ambers like this should also be illegal (and probably is). I wouldn't be surprised if you can get pulled over for reckless cycling (or driving, if you're in a car)
I used to race through ambers but have since changed the way I cycle and treat an amber as a red light, only going through them if it's a green light and it switches to amber if I'm very close and stopping would be unsafe. I find that patience increases safety a great deal.
(Not related to the clip shown) Stopping at ambers on a bike can be risky too, especially if you're taking up a primary position like you should when you're navigating a junction, as drivers behind you will step on the accelerator to try and race through them, and if you start braking, you can get rear-ended. I use my ears and pull over to secondary if I hear a car behind me revving. I shouldn't have to, but I'd rather not be ran over just to make a point.
Most of those clips are valid enough to be shared with the police for prosecution in my experience - in advance of them being made public however, desk based policing isn’t ideal but it’s a start to get those that do this kind of stuff sent off on an awareness course or punished more harshly if they continue…
How long do clips take to show up i sent one in on 10th October 2022 8 months ago it never showed up just wondering if you got it
07:09 this made me laugh, the driver doing his paperwork 😂😂
Probably the insurance paperwork from his last crash.
I was almost impressed
0:14 Jeepers creepers!!!! That first one got my attention 😮
2:16 they do until they're dead.
4:40 Driving in the UK in 2023, summed up in one short clip.
I'm not saying the learner in 8:43 did a good emerge, but with it being a liveried learner car I would have expected better from the cammer rather than blasting the horn in the way that they did. That road had 2 lanes and it was quite obvious the learner wanted to emerge, the cammer could have moved into lane 2 (based on the fact nothing went past when the cammer did an emergency stop I assume it would have been clear to do so)
Too many people use the horn as a stress ball in retribution, that's not what the horn is for. That cammer's actions could easily have spooked the learner in that situation, potentially putting them off learning altogether. A couple of honks when the learner is about to move off would have sufficed, and moving to lane 2 would have been no problem.
02:00 The quad's other vehicle is a bicycle.
08:08 Would you want this driver to be responsible for your kids safety?
Would have thought their other vehicle would be a BMW or a wankpanzer to be honest.
Mums gone to Asda, in her little silver car.
You can tell by its position in the lane to expect something.
Poor overthinking, the Jag and the later clip.
Should know better.
Double trouble.
That big blue truck at the end….could have easily been very nasty. Hats off to the cammer.
I caught one of your cars jumping a red light the other day on Kensington turning to go to edge lane... Silver Corsa or maybe fiesta. Wish I had a dash cam.
Red lights only mean stop to the sixth car in line and as for the full white line telling you where to stop at lights, thats only for the second car in line (try getting a bus round the corner when this happens)!! Also, a new made-up rule, you can make two lines of traffic taking up half of the opposite sides road so you can be in pole position
2:54 interestingly I saw a lorry do stop on the roundabout then reverse back to take the exit he had just missed, and the road was a 60 limit so if someone was approaching quickly that could have been lethal. And my view of the roundabout was then restricted.
Wait until you see one reverse up a slip road because they took the Northbound entry instead of the Southbound 🤦♂️
@@smilerbob oooh I'll look forward to that 🤣
Does anyone know how or what software to use to merge rear & front dashcam footage together on one file to view and export? Thanks!
Yey the second video is near my house. How exciting :)
Wow perfect timing! You inspired me to make a video recently all about extra driver training and why it's so important after passing the original test 😊
Short of paying for extra tuition, it’s worth ‘copping’ yourself a copy of ‘Roadcraft : The police driver/rider’s handbook’, if you haven’t done already.
It has plenty of excellent supplementary information for safer/progressive driving - consider them extra tools in your arsenal worthy of consideration.
@@nuttyslack I've got to be careful here as don't want to "advertise" on Ashley's video. However, that's exactly what I recommend in my advanced driving video. Having completed Masters, Roadcraft was something I studied. I totally agree with your recommendation, a lot of useful nuggets of information in there ☺️
@@amyk9813 Huge well done on taking and completing the Masters. I took and passed the initial advanced course last year.
However, similar to DVSA test, I felt as though the real learning and refinement came after I had passed.
Also, nice fretting.
Thanks for getting back.
6:40 again, funnily enough I saw this exact thing happen today whilst walking a Range Rover overtook the car and skipped the temporary lights...
5:12 I'm with Ashley. Of course, as many have pointed out, turning as committed is the most correct way of fixing a mistaken lane choice - a growing problem as many junctions like this one have been widened. But there was nothing aggressive about the Range Rover driver's request, and surely a bit of grace was due at least from the blue van driver who'd just run a red at a slow enough speed to stop safely.
If the RR driver had made the right turn, that's a choice, but I would rather it were done from polite consideration than from fear of triggering some prat with a dashcam and a big gob.
6:45 Is that buxton road?.... It looks like it and im completely not suprised!
At 7:10 - OK, that's not a map, not anything you NEED to interact with. That guy either needs to be immediately forced to retrain or fired - if he's that slapdash with driving rules, what's he like with security procedures? Also, those vans are NEVER operated by only one person, for a number of reasons. If the paperwork is urgent, give it to the passenger or other crew. If it has to be filled out by you, swap drivers.
That was my clip 😊 I tried to reach out to G4S about it. I made it clear I had no interest in getting anyone in trouble, but that G4S have to make sure this sort of thing doesn't happen. I'm not at all excusing the driver here because he absolutely should not be doing his paperwork while driving on the motorway. But maybe G4S don't allow sufficient time in their day, or maybe the guy is a family man and relies on his wages to put food on the table. So all I wanted was for G4S management to take it seriously and be constructive about it. You know what happened? Absolutely nothing. In fact they just fobbed me off at the first opportunity. I was very tempted to just send it in to the Police as a result. But my concerns about the driver stopped me from doing so. I'm not entirely sure I made the right decision!
@@brianhoskins1979 You are a magnanimous person, but if the guy is relying on his job to feed his family, he shouldn't put it at risk by endangering others. G4S's attitude is awful however, even if they planned on doing nothing, their lack of response shows contempt and I feel very concerned at how that might play out if their are accidents in future.
1:56 so many things wrong with this video aside from the red light non-compliance. No number plates on the quad bike, and why was that van waiting on the pedestrian crossing?
Lorry overtakes seem to be like dual where both lorrys won't lift off the gas to let the other overtake..I've seen it on motorways and dual carriage ways where both lorrys will block both lanes, its about as unprofessional and dangerous as it gets.
Once they've passed their test, they'll tend towards driving like their parents, like they've tried to do throughout all their lessons. It has been absorbed over the previous 17 years.
There's also an element of bravado about it, be it getting egged on by passengers to "go for it" or showing off to said passengers. There is also a lot of ignorance and arrogance. Ignorance to the capabilities of their car and arrogance that they can do what they like regardless.
@@bmused55true, it’s not until you’ve had your first accident that reality kicks in and you soon realise it CAN happen to you.
I'm quite glad I didn't pass until I was nearly 30. It's easier to avoid the sort of pressure younger drivers feel from their mates or parents to take silly risks or stubbornly holding onto their values.
@jakerockznoodles, yeah, I just got mine, and I'm 23. I was pressured a lot to get mine when I was younger, but I wasn't comfortable, nor did I feel ready. I'm glad I waited though because I got mine when I didn't have much stress going on in life. Made things a lot easier
There's a lot of truth to that. Luckily my dad was a good driver and told me a lot.
8:42 very possible that they’re on their test. I know that area and the test centre is close by.
That lorry driver of the last clip must be a sociopath for sure.
The clip at 8:06 is a junction I know well. That minibus will have either carried children from a special school or people from a care home. Absolutely disgusting
that artic at the end was lethal! should have his haulage license revoked fully and a prosecution for the dangerous maneuver.
doesn't matter what vehicle in my book you should be in the correct lane 3/4 a mile before the junction when it comes to motorways.
7:13 is bloody scary... bigger vehicles can do so much harm much more easily!
The best of the worst, saved for last. 😂
8:54 I knew I recognized that place, it was one of the test routes!
The wandering onto the rumble strip on the left suggests the white lorry was also either tired or distracted even before the blue lorries actions come into play… 9:47
Might just be air buffeting, high sided lorries create a lot of air pressure between and the smaller one will get shoved.
@@CycolacFan interesting thanks!
6:51 - that's the eastern end of the Cat and Fiddle (A54). Annoying to see an overtake there being made so badly, as I regularly use that exact place to overtake, because you can see SO much of the oncoming road (eg. where the cammer is) for SO long. If you look to the right as the double-whites become dashed on your side (westbound) you can see all the way to the crest about 550 metres away, so there's no excuse for overtaking "blind" there o_o
Those faults on the nearside are mostly just normal wear and tear. Nothing to do with crash damage. The auld beast is fine.
I hope that truck driver on the last clip was reported, that was stupid and extremely dangerous and he should 100% lose his licence for that move.
That last one was awful. We all make mistakes, sure. But I drive lorries. I sometimes overtake in the last mile or 1/2 mile before a motorway exit I'm taking. But all the way through it, I'm judging if I can make it. If I can't do it safely, I indicate left, back off and tuck back in behind. It extends your time before the slip road by all of about 2-3 seconds, normally.