@@davidwynn6807 impact of a fucking windmill 😂 you people are insane, you know that right? Like you are actually the equivalent of luddite anti steam engine mobs
This is not the sound of a wind turbine farm. This is the sound of ONE turbine. Nice try ARUP. I have been close to a turbine farm in Costa Rica. It is like being close to a highway.
I think the biggest reason so many people are bothered by wind turbines is that most of them live in rural areas and aren't used to constant noises. Even though the sound is barely perceptible, it seems worse when you're not used to hearing infrasound (technically feeling, as humans can't hear sounds below ~18 Hz). As someone who lives less than a mile from a regional airport, I'd kill to live somewhere where the only sounds I have to hear are birds, wind, and turbines.
@@lucasljs1545 If they weren't profitable people wouldn't be spending so much to build them. Basic economics. And no, government subsidies don't change this fact.
They won’t talk about the low frequency sound as it does affect your health, and the wildlife and farm stock…who have more sensitive hearing. So many people had to abandon their homes because of it.
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I think this is missleading, although it seems properley recorded, the playback brings issues thus it is the infra sound from the mills causing problems and you can't playback these types of sounds om your phobe/tablet UA-cam device being used.
it doesn't have to be loud to be annoying. i can hear a factory at my farm that's like 5 kilometers away and it's a constant low-end hum that breaks the silence and annoys the hell out of everyone. i imagine this works out the same, or worse, because it's not a constant sound, it oscillates, which draws attention to it.
This is not accurate. I live not far from wind farm and I hear constant buzzing noise, as if I was on a sea cruiser. It didn’t bother me at the beginning but after a while it gets to you. Additionally they measured and recorded one wind turbine. It is very seldom there is only one. On our closest wind farm there is 8 and often there are even more. I am going to move soon although there are people in our village who live here their whole life and it doesn’t bother them.
I would like to add to my last comment. I talked myself into ignoring it. Someone said to me that people live in towns with hums of highways or on the beach with waves making noise etc. so why do I want to leave such a nice place. I have an old house in a village , which stands by the lake so decided to get used to the noise. It also depends which way the wind blows. I walk my dogs about 3km away from our wind turbines (16 of them) and it makes a big difference in the level of noise. So if you are of relaxed disposition, it is possible to live with it.
These wind generator produce low frequency noise, it may not sounds loud but people can still feel them within miles. The problem with current decibel noise rating system does not count or under-rated low frequency noise. Low frequency noise may not be heard but it is like your hi-fi bass and can be felt from far distance. High frequency noise in contrast fade away fast within small distance. I am sorry to hear your situation, it is really frustrate and bad for the health. Try active noise cancelling head phone and see if that work out for you. I have Bose QuietComfort headphone and it works great for me to reduce these background low frequency noise to almost none. It works with or without play music....(I live inside a industry park and this type of noise just everywhere)
Probably a bit late at replying to this message but 3dB is perceived as a noticeable difference in level, 3dB is also a doubling of sound pressure so 64 turbines would be 3dB x 6 louder (18dB increase) the acoustic consultants would have assessed whether that level increase met the appropriate legislative levels based on the baseline background sound level. It's not quite as simple to say it's that much louder though because of the attenuation of level at distance and any other effects the turbines are subject to. ETSU-97 is the guidance if you wanted to look into it and during an assessment acoustic consultants have to factor in cumulative effects of other nearby wind farms
Is'nt db(A) used for measuring which does not meassure the lower frequencies? Also, I wonder what the sound signature is in a closed space, like a room in a standard house where the walls may mask out the higher frequencies and the lower onse will plough through. The turbine(s) are constantly oscillating when active. I do not live nearby windturbines, but someone said a "standard house" in my countrty swings by airborne soundwaves below 180Hz @@jameslennon6593
I had a cooling fan on the top of my apartment 6 floor I living in 4:th. In certain places in my rooms I heard like a 30-40hz hum constant. You can't measure that in decibel.
The problem is the way of rating in decibel. These wind generator produce low frequency noise, it may not sounds loud but people can still feel them within miles.
I live 2 kilometers away from a couple wind towers and literally the only time i’ve heard anything was in the middle of the night in complete silence having a smoke break working in the woods, and even then it was only a very faint deep pulse like a big gust of wind every second, only much much quieter, and i’ve never noticed any of those infrasound health effects y’all have been talking about so much either, you have to get really close to actually start hearing anything about 600 meters, and there are no homes that close to them, its all bullshit dude, just something you can use blame all your problems on
@@ilovesheen7446 If you can hear the faint deep pulse from 2 km away, imaging people who live around a km distance, then the intensity of that pulse is 4 times more. Some people are sensitive to high frequency of sound while sound people are sensitive to low frequency of sound, these are all common. My son can hear sound in much broader range of frequency than I do and thus if people can hear it, there are mental effect on this.
@@itonylee1 and by quiet i mean seriously quiet, i literally had to hold my breath to hear it, and thats only when the wind is facing this way which it very rarely does, 80% of the time its facing away from buildings with kilometers of forest behind them, i don’t know how it is in america but here the locations are well thought out
@@ilovesheen7446 I am sure you are aware that radio wave and sound wave are two different form of energy...and btw fyi, 5g in fact is better than 3/4g, since it can't really penetrate human skin due to higher frequency range.
Crazy how people complain about wind turbines, that are very quiet, yet people never talk about loud oil rigs and mines. It sounds like a bunch of petrol heads want a reason to bash renewable energy.
@@MarsRedSky9 "The noise levels in coal washeries, coal preparation plants, open cast and underground mining centres are very high when compared to accepted limits for occupational noise exposure. Even the residual noise level when there is MINIMAL activity is 80 to 82 dB. " ua-cam.com/video/ynN39sfqT8w/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/FWP-IZbBcrU/v-deo.html
Interesting they don't have the sound down wind from the turbine, in the direction their "air" is moving. And then you have when the bearings are going out. Always a "calming' noise that carries.
@@-DSet No it's not like a car crash at all. The bearings going out isn't a crash... It's more like living close to a road in a poor area so all the cars are junkers going 30mph that squeak and rattle vs. living next to a quiet neighborhood with only prius's driving 5mph.
The moving elements of a wind turbine are what make them so much more productive that solar panels. Naturally since things are moving, the machine makes some noise. Gas turbines and old school diesel power generators make lots of noise locally, but it is dampened via soundproofing, and also, noise drops off with distance.
I regularly hiking hours near the Altamont Pass windfarm with 2MW turbines, the trail goes as close as 1300 ft (400 m), and that's about where the noise becomes similar to living under a big airport's glideslope. But at 4000ft (1+ km) the sound becomes negligible, and the sound of your AC or even a ceiling fan or a flapping flagpost cable will annoy your much much earlier. If one can't bear a noise of a ceiling fan in the night, their life was miserable even before windfarms.
The first thing I thought of after watching this, is "how come they didn't do the modelling in front of and behind the blades, and also were there are multiple turbines" seems logical to check out all the potential angles and real wind farms with multiple turbines.......It's interesting to note that city dwellers who are far from the blades chastise the rural dwellers generally speaking because like most people ..we are all for something like green energy (turbines) or nuclear or chicken farms...or you name it........as long as it's not our backyard.
Exactly. The sound levels off to the side of the rotating blades are nowhere near as loud as behind the blades. And it is actually louder at some distance than it is close to the turbine. Videos like this are paid for by wind developers to convince politicians that wind projects are wonderful. The fact is that the entire area of a wind project becomes a de facto heavy industrial zone. Industrial zones are not good places for people to live and are always kept separate from residential areas in zoning law. Non-compliant use for industrial purposes is not to be allowed in ag/residential areas without full consent of residents.
Recording at different aspects and in the midst of a wind farm would be very interesting indeed. City dwellers take a while to hear discrete sounds when away from what they are used to. I haven't heard a wind farm in real time but seeing them in motion I don't think they are as quiet as the developers claim. When each blade passes the post supporting the whole thing it has to disturb the flow of air creating noise at a very low freq. that you would feel rather than hear. If there is any pitting and erosion on the leading edges and tips of the blades that would cause noise in varying freq. bands depending on the size of the pitting too.
Because sound doesnt travel like light where you will hear something different from different angles thats because the sound diffracts and the spreads out in a sphere - if you have walls and obstacles close by that can interfer with the sound there can be a difference but in an open field like that you wont notice a difference. - The sound 200m behind the turbine will be the same as to the side of the turbine.
Not necessarily. I am pro wind farm. My brother and I have signed a lease for one, however I do not think my section of our rural property will have any towers. That means I will be able to see them, and possibly hear them but obtain no direct financial benefit from the wind farm. I don’t actually live there anymore, but even if I was living there I would still support them. This video has reassured me as the turbines will be at least a kilometre from me.
I wonder what Hydro Tasmania's bias is towards: probably increased usage of windmills. Even if not intentional, bias can significantly impact scientific study.
Well...its not about the sound that you can hear, and at top from the side od wind turbine...Its about Low Freq sound going with the turbulent air from BEHIND the turbine and the ground vibrations
They need to show sound levels, because of how your computer volume is adjusted. You need some kind of reference, as to how loud it actually is.(not very loud)
Atlantes Kyle it is as if you were on a luxury sea cruise. I was on Queen Mary 2, 4th deck which, apparently is least noisy, so it is a very similar experience. Or, like some people have furnaces or hot air pumps in the cellar which run most of the time. It is quieter than aircon. It is not bad and bearable but when they are switched off for maintenance one can appreciate the lack of it. The closest turbine from our wind farm is about 2,5km away from my house. I think that the noise has an impact on my house (which is very old) too and tiniest parts of it vibrate making an extra noise.
@@annaal7480 Well. Looks like you're lucky, simply not living by Anything else. Neighbors, Traffic, Trains, Lawnmowers, Music, Dogs, Cops and Fire, Aircraft, Punks in Honda cars 😂, AND SIMPLE WEATHER. Just calming White Noise as loud as your refrigerator.
Arup should put recording equipment behind the turbine, thats where all the noise is and will flow on for kilometres depending on wind. misrepresentation here. Watchout central highlands, your next!
Ok now do it 1km from the wind farm, wind speed at optimal power generation speed using ultrasonic sensors that measure sound waves that are beyond the limits of hearing.
I am all for renewable energy but this video is misleading. Lots of technical mumbo jumbo that does not mean much for the average person. The thing is this video failed to consider the sound from various angles. From experience in a wind farm near me, the sound is loudest BEHIND the blades and least audible edge on, like in this video. I filmed this video 10 years ago when the wind farm was brand new. The turbine in the video is a Siemens SWT-2.3-108. It is now 10 years old and likely noisier. This video was recorded about 150 meters away and with the simplest of setups it capture ambient noise and traffic. ua-cam.com/video/6HPuvRBUm3M/v-deo.html
Fake news. They are doing this during non windy day. Theres a case in Australia where a wind farm was sued by a farmer (and won) whose house is a km away because he couldn’t sleep, saying the wind turbine sound like a train at night.
There is currently no onshore wind turbine with such long blades. The maximum today is 80 metres. They don't have to spin so fast so they are actually a little quieter. Also thanks to more advanced blade designs.
What you won't tell everyone because it doesn't fit the official Fossil Fuel funded agenda is that studies how that turbines do NOT have a detrimental effect on human health. What does is the nocebo effect where the denial industry repeat these lies time and time again and people convince themselves they MUST get sick. So they do. They get sick from worrying about getting sick. That and FF air pollution which kill 7 million people a year and cause cancer, asthma etc etc etc. But that doesn't fit the official Fossil Fuel funded agenda so better stick with BS right?
@@metatron333ascension I have, now you look it up. Sorry if facts hurt your feelings but there have been meta studies showing that fact. Turbines have existed for decades and the only outbreaks of ill health have occurred in small pockets where anti-windfarm activists have drummed up a false campaign. But that doesn't fit the official FF funded narrative so you won't.
@@metatron333ascension Because the denier industry are scared of facts so prefer BS, let me help you. Took less time to do a search than you took spreading BS. Whomp whomp. www.newscientist.com/article/2092934-blowing-hot-air-are-wind-farms-really-bad-for-your-health/ slate.com/technology/2013/03/wind-turbine-syndrome-debunking-a-disease-that-may-be-a-nocebo-effect.html www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4264329/
This is BS cuz I have a couple that are friends of mine that have wind turbines probably 100 yards from their house and you can hear them howl all the time. The reason I moved out of a town 22 years ago was for the quiet.
I live about one mile from the closest windmill at a windfarm. Damn annoying sometimes. Very, very, misleading video. Or I will call it what it is: a flat out lie.
Ningun parque eolico tiene un solo generador. Normalmente instalan varios. Algunos parques eolicos cuentan con 20 o 30 de esos molinos girando. Asi que al ruido que hace uno solo de esos generadores debes multiplicarlo por 20 o 30. Ahi si que la cosa se pone molesta....
Still not accurate, sorry. You did the recordings from one angle, what if you stand in front or in the back of them, the sounds are different. PLUS you only had the sound of one wind turbine and not, as what they want to build in my neighborhood, 5 of them. Is 5 times the same sound, lot louder. :)
@@InsightfulUndercurrents And I doubt those 5 he claims being built. Will be stratigcally placed like Surround Sound around his home. ...they should, just to piss em off 😂...
The enclose of the mic is huge. Very big and very much damping. In a studio this would result in muffled sounds. No quality vocal or instrument recording can be made with such a setup. Of course protection for wind noises is required. Pop filters are normally used for vocals . I would suggest making a pop filter around the mic. With enough distance to the mic. Why not measure at a stormy or hurricane day? Than wind noise is biggest! It is like measuring a drummer who plays with brushes and in the next measurement you hear a jazz drummer playing with light sticks. That method is OK if you stop the wind turbines when wind is above medium breeze. Great ...people around the windturbine will be happy! But ...at high speeds windturbines deliver most energy and noise. Windturbines are only stopped when very extreme winds are avaialable. So we wanna hear the heavy metal drummer who can shake the roofs! Or the storms that shake the windturbines . For sure not pretty weather to do measurements ...i may rain and be cold as well. Yes ...than that enclosure probably will be required and perhaps still generate enough signal. Second ...very nice to have windpark far away from houses as shown. Distances from 10 times tip height or more have almost no serious consequences for people around the windtrubine. However for instance in the overcrowded Netherlands distances from 700m , 500 m or even 300m or less also are reported . And ...windturbines are getting bigger and bigger and more and more. See links with installed heights, powers and noise they generated. Official government data. www.atlasleefomgeving.nl/kaarten?config=3ef897de-127f-471a-959b-93b7597de188&activateOnStart=info,layermanager&gm-x=155000.00000000006&gm-y=416358.1266850175&gm-z=3.312315746690106&gm-b=1544180834512,true,1;1605001908247,true,1 www.nationaleenergieatlas.nl/kaarten?config=418d0f56-0f0c-4fd4-9001-2ead4e1e22d6&activeTools=layercollection,search,info,bookmark,measure,draw&activateOnStart=info,layermanager&gm-x=150000&gm-y=460000&gm-z=3&gm-b=1542632922900,true,1;1603727558578,true,1 www.atlasleefomgeving.nl/kaarten geluid van windturbines (Lden) However windturbine noise is registrated in dB(A) and not in dB(C) or better ...without using a damping nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wegingscurves_A_en_C The damping/correction is so huge that below 125 Hz no realistic data are presented with dB(A) settings. at 50 Hz already 30.2 dB damping is supplied and at 20 H 50.5 dB correction is applied with dB(A) dB(C) damping is 1.3 dB at 50 Hz and 6.2 dB at 20 Hz . A huge improvement over dB(A) measurements. However ...still damping (weighting) is applied. To reproduce the sound at home the play back volume should be at the same dB as when recorded.
Wow, a site where comments are actually allowed. You know how you'll win people over is just record the sound of the wind turbine from different distances. Instead of your highly technical format.
If you’ve ever stood next to one of these you know this is a gaht damn lie hahaha things are loud as fuck. Don’t let them play you, “acoustic engineers” fucked with it. Go stand next to one and tell me how your ears are after an hour lol
I regularly hiking hours near the Altamont Pass windfarm with 2MW turbines, the trail goes as close as 1300 ft (400 m), and nothing happened to my ears so far. I'd certainly avoid living *so* close, much like I'd avoid living under a big airport glideslope. But at 4000ft (1+ km) the sound becomes negligible, and the sound of your AC or even a ceiling fan or a flapping flagpost cable will annoy your much much earlier. If one can't bear a noise of a ceiling fan in the night, their life was miserable even before windfarms.
This is not relevant for other wind turbines. I lived off grid in Portugal and couldn't get used to the near permanent noise of 4 nearby wind turbines. It sounded like an jet plane coming over neither too low to be upfront but low enough to make you turn your head. Different shapes of blades might affect the noise output. The WHO has now recognised the noise (some) wind turbines make as a health hazard. A couple won in November 2021 financial compensation from a wind turbine corporation for the health issues they suffered caused by constant exposure to the noise they make.
City dwellers often live near highways or busy streets, which can be loud. I know how loud: I've lived near a major street and a mall for a few years. For over a decade I lived near a train yard. Train yards are quite loud too, making loud CRASHBANG noises at unpredictable intervals. You get used to it, to such an extent that after a while you don't even notice it, even when you're trying to sleep. My hearing is good for my age: I could hear the whine of a dying power supply for a sign when the technicians couldn't. For most of the video, I could not hear the wind turbines. When we got close enough for me to hear it I found the sound unremarkable, not quite soothing, but not aggravating. If I had a house of my own, and enough cash, I'd have solar panels and a nice wind turbine of some kind. If it were an option (legally, it isn't) I'd 100% have a personal thorium nuclear reactor or something, done right they can be incredibly safe and nigh-impossible to screw up. Just to be clear, I'm not saying that wind power has NO drawbacks, because it does have a few. I'm just pointing out that some of the negative comments I'm seeing below... just don't make sense to me.
JUST TELL ME WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE
they will not do that because they want you to believe there is little impact
This video is a BIASED, DECEPTIVE and WINDMILL COMPANY Produced LIE FEST & Nothing Else!.. 😡🤬😡
Go Listen to one then,.. Ya Clowns.
@@davidwynn6807 it is little impact and no cancer. Who told you different? trump the dumbass
@@davidwynn6807 impact of a fucking windmill 😂 you people are insane, you know that right? Like you are actually the equivalent of luddite anti steam engine mobs
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Most ppl are like: UGHHH JUST CUT TO THE DAMN POINT…
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I don't need to hear the entire life story of the people who recorded the sound, I just want to hear the sound.
critical point in the video; ua-cam.com/video/v-sUDSwsE_w/v-deo.html
This noise would make me move away.
This is not the sound of a wind turbine farm. This is the sound of ONE turbine. Nice try ARUP. I have been close to a turbine farm in Costa Rica. It is like being close to a highway.
And we all know NO humans are capable of life in the shadow of highway sounds. 🤡
I think the biggest reason so many people are bothered by wind turbines is that most of them live in rural areas and aren't used to constant noises. Even though the sound is barely perceptible, it seems worse when you're not used to hearing infrasound (technically feeling, as humans can't hear sounds below ~18 Hz).
As someone who lives less than a mile from a regional airport, I'd kill to live somewhere where the only sounds I have to hear are birds, wind, and turbines.
No wind turbines, only birds and trees. happy to share :D
Also, wind turbines are complete garbage. They are only propaganda, they can't even pay for themselves.
@@lucasljs1545 If they weren't profitable people wouldn't be spending so much to build them. Basic economics.
And no, government subsidies don't change this fact.
It’s renewable energy. We only have so much oil we can drill into but we will never run out of wind.
@@nameismetatoo4591 there are suckers born everyday 🤣
it's 3am, how did i get here
@@vitalsigns2679 very
I'm watching the video like "BRO STFU I JUST WANNA HEAR A FUKIN WIND TURBINE!!!"
I came here to listen to the wind turbines but the narrator wouldn't let me 😂
Same.
how about measuring in front of the blades? What about low Frequency sound levels?
Why would you care if there’s low frequency sounds levels? And I’ve been around turbines, the sound doesn’t change no matter what side you’re on.
I work on a turbine and don't have issues with "low frequency" I can't hear
@@TuxedoNetwork The turbine doesn't rotate if you're working on it.
Why? People don't live at the front of the blades so will not effect anyone so meaningless.
They won’t talk about the low frequency sound as it does affect your health, and the wildlife and farm stock…who have more sensitive hearing. So many people had to abandon their homes because of it.
I think this is missleading, although it seems properley recorded, the playback brings issues thus it is the infra sound from the mills causing problems and you can't playback these types of sounds om your phobe/tablet UA-cam device being used.
The video suggests you recorded the sound perpendicular to the length of the nacelle, instead of downwind, where the sound would be strongest.
Seems like a science project without use of the proper design. All situations should be covered. full disclosure, I'm for green energy including wind.
it doesn't have to be loud to be annoying.
i can hear a factory at my farm that's like 5 kilometers away and it's a constant low-end hum that breaks the silence and annoys the hell out of everyone. i imagine this works out the same, or worse, because it's not a constant sound, it oscillates, which draws attention to it.
Watch the video. The sound is LESS than background noise so you will NOT hear it.
@@jamespyke6764 because it's one turbine. Try putting up a hundred.
@@philip7922 Same result. Turbines such as here, are never installed singly.
@@jamespyke6764 Dude. You've commented on everything from this video. Get a damn life. Just.... Wow.
@@scotttinney6523 Everyone must have a hobby, mine is pointing out the BS of the FF cult.
It almost sounds like a distant diesel locomotive from 1 km and 2 km.
i had the same thought. i can hear them at night with no other noise
Except 1000 times quieter so you can't actually hear them.
Million dollar assesment and they still use Audacity, see dats opensource!!
Rob Paulsen, the voice actor, uses Audacity. He mentioned it by name.
This is not accurate. I live not far from wind farm and I hear constant buzzing noise, as if I was on a sea cruiser. It didn’t bother me at the beginning but after a while it gets to you. Additionally they measured and recorded one wind turbine. It is very seldom there is only one. On our closest wind farm there is 8 and often there are even more. I am going to move soon although there are people in our village who live here their whole life and it doesn’t bother them.
I would like to add to my last comment. I talked myself into ignoring it. Someone said to me that people live in towns with hums of highways or on the beach with waves making noise etc. so why do I want to leave such a nice place. I have an old house in a village , which stands by the lake so decided to get used to the noise. It also depends which way the wind blows. I walk my dogs about 3km away from our wind turbines (16 of them) and it makes a big difference in the level of noise. So if you are of relaxed disposition, it is possible to live with it.
These wind generator produce low frequency noise, it may not sounds loud but people can still feel them within miles. The problem with current decibel noise rating system does not count or under-rated low frequency noise. Low frequency noise may not be heard but it is like your hi-fi bass and can be felt from far distance. High frequency noise in contrast fade away fast within small distance. I am sorry to hear your situation, it is really frustrate and bad for the health. Try active noise cancelling head phone and see if that work out for you. I have Bose QuietComfort headphone and it works great for me to reduce these background low frequency noise to almost none. It works with or without play music....(I live inside a industry park and this type of noise just everywhere)
I imagine living in the city or apartment complex would be a lot more irritating
You make much more noise driving a car
You must live in a really quiet area. I live next to a busy airport and train station. And highway.
Thank you for this, needed a reference for how loud turbines can get for a project i'm working on!
Honestly
@@shane5196 what
Why are they so loud?
@@aboodaradi5125 that just means I’m agreeing with what he’s saying like “yeah honestly” lmao
@@iamme2739 the tips of the rotors move at a very high speed
perfect video
The same birds noise we were hearing at 2000 meters
FINNALY not someone who just went to his editor and just pumped the sound up to 2k %
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Evidence against my argument = promotion.
Getbout of your bucket
This is a super neat video! What does a wind farm of 50+ sound like?
Why would you be in the wind farm if you dont like the sounds? Youre unlikely to have more than a few close by.
This is what they sound like from 2000'. ua-cam.com/video/78QwBM_AD3s/v-deo.html
Probably a bit late at replying to this message but 3dB is perceived as a noticeable difference in level, 3dB is also a doubling of sound pressure so 64 turbines would be 3dB x 6 louder (18dB increase) the acoustic consultants would have assessed whether that level increase met the appropriate legislative levels based on the baseline background sound level. It's not quite as simple to say it's that much louder though because of the attenuation of level at distance and any other effects the turbines are subject to. ETSU-97 is the guidance if you wanted to look into it and during an assessment acoustic consultants have to factor in cumulative effects of other nearby wind farms
Is'nt db(A) used for measuring which does not meassure the lower frequencies?
Also, I wonder what the sound signature is in a closed space, like a room in a standard house where the walls may mask out the higher frequencies and the lower onse will plough through. The turbine(s) are constantly oscillating when active.
I do not live nearby windturbines, but someone said a "standard house" in my countrty swings by airborne soundwaves below 180Hz @@jameslennon6593
I had a cooling fan on the top of my apartment 6 floor I living in 4:th. In certain places in my rooms I heard like a 30-40hz hum constant. You can't measure that in decibel.
Infrasound is a method of torture that can cause panic attacks.
You can measure it in decibel. It was probably louder for you than living within a few hundred metre of a turbine.
The problem is the way of rating in decibel. These wind generator produce low frequency noise, it may not sounds loud but people can still feel them within miles.
I live 2 kilometers away from a couple wind towers and literally the only time i’ve heard anything was in the middle of the night in complete silence having a smoke break working in the woods, and even then it was only a very faint deep pulse like a big gust of wind every second, only much much quieter, and i’ve never noticed any of those infrasound health effects y’all have been talking about so much either, you have to get really close to actually start hearing anything about 600 meters, and there are no homes that close to them, its all bullshit dude, just something you can use blame all your problems on
@@ilovesheen7446 If you can hear the faint deep pulse from 2 km away, imaging people who live around a km distance, then the intensity of that pulse is 4 times more. Some people are sensitive to high frequency of sound while sound people are sensitive to low frequency of sound, these are all common. My son can hear sound in much broader range of frequency than I do and thus if people can hear it, there are mental effect on this.
@@itonylee1 are you afraid of 5g too?
@@itonylee1 and by quiet i mean seriously quiet, i literally had to hold my breath to hear it, and thats only when the wind is facing this way which it very rarely does, 80% of the time its facing away from buildings with kilometers of forest behind them, i don’t know how it is in america but here the locations are well thought out
@@ilovesheen7446 I am sure you are aware that radio wave and sound wave are two different form of energy...and btw fyi, 5g in fact is better than 3/4g, since it can't really penetrate human skin due to higher frequency range.
Sounds beautiful.
Very similar to the sound of pumps on oil wells.
I wish they could just show me what it sounds like and then explain everything and not making me wait for 10 minutes.
Damn, your mommy must be busy.
A special foam cover was used to protect the microphone from wind noise and muffle the sound of those goddamn turbines
I love how the corpo intro completely undermines the intent of the video.
Why you record always from lateral and not from behind the turbine orientation, facing the wind?? The wind moves the sound with it...
It would be interesting to have the sound of an oil derrick also, just for comparison.
... or surface coal mine... or fossil fuel plant... I'm sure they are completely silent :D
Crazy how people complain about wind turbines, that are very quiet, yet people never talk about loud oil rigs and mines. It sounds like a bunch of petrol heads want a reason to bash renewable energy.
cause people live next to oil rigs and coal mines
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@@MarsRedSky9 "The noise levels in coal washeries, coal preparation plants, open cast and underground mining centres are very high when compared to accepted limits for occupational noise exposure. Even the residual noise level when there is MINIMAL activity is 80 to 82 dB. "
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Sheer disappointment at the end of video be like:
All you can here is whoosh whoosh at when the blades get past ya...
Interesting they don't have the sound down wind from the turbine, in the direction their "air" is moving. And then you have when the bearings are going out. Always a "calming' noise that carries.
That's like saying "I don't like living close to the road, when there's a car crash it's way too loud!"
@@-DSet No it's not like a car crash at all. The bearings going out isn't a crash... It's more like living close to a road in a poor area so all the cars are junkers going 30mph that squeak and rattle vs. living next to a quiet neighborhood with only prius's driving 5mph.
"when the bearings are going out" you mean like when they're worn out or on their way out??
My subdivision may be getting one near by. Unfortunately, they're probably be too far away from my house to hear them though.
The moving elements of a wind turbine are what make them so much more productive that solar panels. Naturally since things are moving, the machine makes some noise. Gas turbines and old school diesel power generators make lots of noise locally, but it is dampened via soundproofing, and also, noise drops off with distance.
Why not record in the winddirection?
I think it’s a nice touch to the ambience.
I regularly hiking hours near the Altamont Pass windfarm with 2MW turbines, the trail goes as close as 1300 ft (400 m), and that's about where the noise becomes similar to living under a big airport's glideslope. But at 4000ft (1+ km) the sound becomes negligible, and the sound of your AC or even a ceiling fan or a flapping flagpost cable will annoy your much much earlier. If one can't bear a noise of a ceiling fan in the night, their life was miserable even before windfarms.
Yeah right wingers are too busy youtubing answers and fighting against free healthcare to listen to you!
The first thing I thought of after watching this, is "how come they didn't do the modelling in front of and behind the blades, and also were there are multiple turbines" seems logical to check out all the potential angles and real wind farms with multiple turbines.......It's interesting to note that city dwellers who are far from the blades chastise the rural dwellers generally speaking because like most people ..we are all for something like green energy (turbines) or nuclear or chicken farms...or you name it........as long as it's not our backyard.
Exactly. The sound levels off to the side of the rotating blades are nowhere near as loud as behind the blades. And it is actually louder at some distance than it is close to the turbine. Videos like this are paid for by wind developers to convince politicians that wind projects are wonderful. The fact is that the entire area of a wind project becomes a de facto heavy industrial zone. Industrial zones are not good places for people to live and are always kept separate from residential areas in zoning law. Non-compliant use for industrial purposes is not to be allowed in ag/residential areas without full consent of residents.
Recording at different aspects and in the midst of a wind farm would be very interesting indeed. City dwellers take a while to hear discrete sounds when away from what they are used to. I haven't heard a wind farm in real time but seeing them in motion I don't think they are as quiet as the developers claim. When each blade passes the post supporting the whole thing it has to disturb the flow of air creating noise at a very low freq. that you would feel rather than hear. If there is any pitting and erosion on the leading edges and tips of the blades that would cause noise in varying freq. bands depending on the size of the pitting too.
These where my questions also. There are many I have around wind farms, Noise is just one of them.
Because sound doesnt travel like light where you will hear something different from different angles thats because the sound diffracts and the spreads out in a sphere - if you have walls and obstacles close by that can interfer with the sound there can be a difference but in an open field like that you wont notice a difference. - The sound 200m behind the turbine will be the same as to the side of the turbine.
Not necessarily. I am pro wind farm. My brother and I have signed a lease for one, however I do not think my section of our rural property will have any towers. That means I will be able to see them, and possibly hear them but obtain no direct financial benefit from the wind farm.
I don’t actually live there anymore, but even if I was living there I would still support them. This video has reassured me as the turbines will be at least a kilometre from me.
Problem is with infrasons.
I wonder what Hydro Tasmania's bias is towards: probably increased usage of windmills. Even if not intentional, bias can significantly impact scientific study.
Roughly 3:13 is when it starts
I like the sound of them
Well...its not about the sound that you can hear, and at top from the side od wind turbine...Its about Low Freq sound going with the turbulent air from BEHIND the turbine and the ground vibrations
kind of used to it...been flying YT-1300 light freighter [Bat Falcon].
Too much explaining I just thought I would be the sounds not sound levels😂
They need to show sound levels, because of how your computer volume is adjusted. You need some kind of reference, as to how loud it actually is.(not very loud)
Atlantes Kyle it is as if you were on a luxury sea cruise. I was on Queen Mary 2, 4th deck which, apparently is least noisy, so it is a very similar experience. Or, like some people have furnaces or hot air pumps in the cellar which run most of the time. It is quieter than aircon. It is not bad and bearable but when they are switched off for maintenance one can appreciate the lack of it. The closest turbine from our wind farm is about 2,5km away from my house. I think that the noise has an impact on my house (which is very old) too and tiniest parts of it vibrate making an extra noise.
This video is a BIASED, DECEPTIVE and WINDMILL COMPANY Produced LIE FEST & Nothing Else!.. 😡🤬😡
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Well. Looks like you're lucky, simply not living by Anything else.
Neighbors, Traffic, Trains, Lawnmowers, Music, Dogs, Cops and Fire, Aircraft, Punks in Honda cars 😂, AND SIMPLE WEATHER. Just calming White Noise as loud as your refrigerator.
Arup should put recording equipment behind the turbine, thats where all the noise is and will flow on for kilometres depending on wind. misrepresentation here. Watchout central highlands, your next!
Ok now do it 1km from the wind farm, wind speed at optimal power generation speed using ultrasonic sensors that measure sound waves that are beyond the limits of hearing.
Was that Audacity? If so, that should tell you a lot about how good Audacity is.
I've used it for years. It's awesome
Nah. They're loud. WHOOSH WHOOSH WHOOSH. And then the light flicker and dead birds...
The sound check should have been taken on the front of the turbine, not on its side LOL
Very interesting. I think they should be built within a kilometre of homes, unless the occupants have given full consent.
Uhh i never thought they are that loud. I really hate this constant background noise from the wind turbine.
Search UA-cam for a clip "Wind Turbine Sound : Son d’une Éolienne"
I can't here anything to be honest I live near a coal fired power station and it's much louder
Just gonna save anyone who looks this up some time. You don't hear shit
they aint telling you the whole story .thats ok you dont want it any way
@@buckystarfinger2487 you must be hearing things.
Everything at 90 degrees on the direction of the wind. Why? Try it with the wind blowing against you.
VESTAS V90 3.0 Megawalt wind turbine
I live near a wind farm never heard a noise from them im sure oil drilling is alot noiser
This "Sounds" like a sales pitch to me.
This literally could have been a 10 second video showing the sound. I didn't need unnecessary narration and background music.
Why is her voices EQ’d so loudly lowkey annoying lol
Sounds are additive so be careful of interprerarion
That's fair, interpreparion sounds bad.. If I see one will avoid 😅
Sounds like a small tardis.
Skip all the talking : 3:58
just like the sound you made from slicing your ruler or stick fast, just swushh,
They sound better than a diesel truck
I am all for renewable energy but this video is misleading. Lots of technical mumbo jumbo that does not mean much for the average person. The thing is this video failed to consider the sound from various angles. From experience in a wind farm near me, the sound is loudest BEHIND the blades and least audible edge on, like in this video. I filmed this video 10 years ago when the wind farm was brand new. The turbine in the video is a Siemens SWT-2.3-108. It is now 10 years old and likely noisier. This video was recorded about 150 meters away and with the simplest of setups it capture ambient noise and traffic. ua-cam.com/video/6HPuvRBUm3M/v-deo.html
Fake news. They are doing this during non windy day.
Theres a case in Australia where a wind farm was sued by a farmer (and won) whose house is a km away because he couldn’t sleep, saying the wind turbine sound like a train at night.
So no noise :- P
Bird Genocide.
Those blades are 44 meters what about blades that are a 100 meters
There is currently no onshore wind turbine with such long blades. The maximum today is 80 metres. They don't have to spin so fast so they are actually a little quieter. Also thanks to more advanced blade designs.
what they wont tell you is the affects low frequencies can have on human health.
What you won't tell everyone because it doesn't fit the official Fossil Fuel funded agenda is that studies how that turbines do NOT have a detrimental effect on human health. What does is the nocebo effect where the denial industry repeat these lies time and time again and people convince themselves they MUST get sick. So they do. They get sick from worrying about getting sick.
That and FF air pollution which kill 7 million people a year and cause cancer, asthma etc etc etc. But that doesn't fit the official Fossil Fuel funded agenda so better stick with BS right?
@@jamespyke6764 actually they do have detrimental affects on health. look up what low frequencies do to people.
@@metatron333ascension I have, now you look it up. Sorry if facts hurt your feelings but there have been meta studies showing that fact. Turbines have existed for decades and the only outbreaks of ill health have occurred in small pockets where anti-windfarm activists have drummed up a false campaign. But that doesn't fit the official FF funded narrative so you won't.
@@metatron333ascension Because the denier industry are scared of facts so prefer BS, let me help you. Took less time to do a search than you took spreading BS. Whomp whomp.
www.newscientist.com/article/2092934-blowing-hot-air-are-wind-farms-really-bad-for-your-health/
slate.com/technology/2013/03/wind-turbine-syndrome-debunking-a-disease-that-may-be-a-nocebo-effect.html
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4264329/
@@jamespyke6764 wrong lol
I didn't know they made noise...
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What about active noise controle. The same sound but in a revese sound wave so they cancel the sound wave out. You will hear nothing.
That would work well with infrasound in a room.
why did i watch this? like, in it's entirety. the fu--?
Better than living next door to tradies making a racket all day.
How many wind farms are comprised of a single turbine?
Nothing is "comprised of" anything. Learn English.
@@deegordon8316 I've read "comprised of" in national publications. Now everybody thinks that is normal.
This is BS cuz I have a couple that are friends of mine that have wind turbines probably 100 yards from their house and you can hear them howl all the time. The reason I moved out of a town 22 years ago was for the quiet.
hummm maybe my speakers suck.
But i driven by windfarms, parked my car and had a dinner. And they are much much much much louder than shown in this :/
I live about one mile from the closest windmill at a windfarm. Damn annoying sometimes.
Very, very, misleading video. Or I will call it what it is: a flat out lie.
Ningun parque eolico tiene un solo generador. Normalmente instalan varios. Algunos parques eolicos cuentan con 20 o 30 de esos molinos girando. Asi que al ruido que hace uno solo de esos generadores debes multiplicarlo por 20 o 30. Ahi si que la cosa se pone molesta....
Its still better than choking the earth to death
05:45 you’re welcome 🥰
Ik
Stay Green
asmr on steroids
05:13 You're welcome
Still not accurate, sorry. You did the recordings from one angle, what if you stand in front or in the back of them, the sounds are different. PLUS you only had the sound of one wind turbine and not, as what they want to build in my neighborhood, 5 of them. Is 5 times the same sound, lot louder. :)
That’s not how sound works....
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And I doubt those 5 he claims being built. Will be stratigcally placed like Surround Sound around his home.
...they should, just to piss em off 😂...
You obviously have not even been around them, the sound levels do not change depending on the angle.
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Skip to 4:00
sincerely i cant hear shit on any of them
OMG it took 4 minutes just to start the sounds!! WHATS WITH THE PROPAGANDA!? I heard it at 500m. It was loud.
EXCELLENT Job of FILTERING OUT the NOISE of the GEARS CLASHING Together
The enclose of the mic is huge. Very big and very much damping. In a studio this would result in muffled sounds. No quality vocal or instrument recording can be made with such a setup.
Of course protection for wind noises is required. Pop filters are normally used for vocals . I would suggest making a pop filter around the mic. With enough distance to the mic. Why not measure at a stormy or hurricane day? Than wind noise is biggest! It is like measuring a drummer who plays with brushes and in the next measurement you hear a jazz drummer playing with light sticks. That method is OK if you stop the wind turbines when wind is above medium breeze. Great ...people around the windturbine will be happy! But ...at high speeds windturbines deliver most energy and noise. Windturbines are only stopped when very extreme winds are avaialable. So we wanna hear the heavy metal drummer who can shake the roofs! Or the storms that shake the windturbines . For sure not pretty weather to do measurements ...i may rain and be cold as well.
Yes ...than that enclosure probably will be required and perhaps still generate enough signal.
Second ...very nice to have windpark far away from houses as shown. Distances from 10 times tip height or more have almost no serious consequences for people around the windtrubine. However for instance in the overcrowded Netherlands distances from 700m , 500 m or even 300m or less also are reported . And ...windturbines are getting bigger and bigger and more and more. See links with installed heights, powers and noise they generated. Official government data.
www.atlasleefomgeving.nl/kaarten?config=3ef897de-127f-471a-959b-93b7597de188&activateOnStart=info,layermanager&gm-x=155000.00000000006&gm-y=416358.1266850175&gm-z=3.312315746690106&gm-b=1544180834512,true,1;1605001908247,true,1
www.nationaleenergieatlas.nl/kaarten?config=418d0f56-0f0c-4fd4-9001-2ead4e1e22d6&activeTools=layercollection,search,info,bookmark,measure,draw&activateOnStart=info,layermanager&gm-x=150000&gm-y=460000&gm-z=3&gm-b=1542632922900,true,1;1603727558578,true,1
www.atlasleefomgeving.nl/kaarten geluid van windturbines (Lden)
However windturbine noise is registrated in dB(A) and not in dB(C) or better ...without using a damping
nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wegingscurves_A_en_C
The damping/correction is so huge that below 125 Hz no realistic data are presented with dB(A) settings. at 50 Hz already 30.2 dB damping is supplied and at 20 H 50.5 dB correction is applied with dB(A) dB(C) damping is 1.3 dB at 50 Hz and 6.2 dB at 20 Hz . A huge improvement over dB(A) measurements. However ...still damping (weighting) is applied.
To reproduce the sound at home the play back volume should be at the same dB as when recorded.
Wow, a site where comments are actually allowed. You know how you'll win people over is just record the sound of the wind turbine from different distances. Instead of your highly technical format.
the point is they are whisper quiet . i visited a bunch and the air rushing past my ear was making more noise
Infrasound was not even measured. That is what hurts people and farm animals
If you’ve ever stood next to one of these you know this is a gaht damn lie hahaha things are loud as fuck. Don’t let them play you, “acoustic engineers” fucked with it. Go stand next to one and tell me how your ears are after an hour lol
I regularly hiking hours near the Altamont Pass windfarm with 2MW turbines, the trail goes as close as 1300 ft (400 m), and nothing happened to my ears so far. I'd certainly avoid living *so* close, much like I'd avoid living under a big airport glideslope. But at 4000ft (1+ km) the sound becomes negligible, and the sound of your AC or even a ceiling fan or a flapping flagpost cable will annoy your much much earlier. If one can't bear a noise of a ceiling fan in the night, their life was miserable even before windfarms.
This is not relevant for other wind turbines.
I lived off grid in Portugal and couldn't get used to the near permanent noise of 4 nearby wind turbines. It sounded like an jet plane coming over neither too low to be upfront but low enough to make you turn your head. Different shapes of blades might affect the noise output.
The WHO has now recognised the noise (some) wind turbines make as a health hazard. A couple won in November 2021 financial compensation from a wind turbine corporation for the health issues they suffered caused by constant exposure to the noise they make.
The turbines are really quiet I couldn't hear anything at all the distances
You need to get your hearing checked..
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Next on Arup. How does a drop on the forehead effect human health? It doesn't!
# Spanish Inquisition
Thank you this is an excellent video on the sounds emitted from wind turbines
City dwellers often live near highways or busy streets, which can be loud. I know how loud: I've lived near a major street and a mall for a few years. For over a decade I lived near a train yard. Train yards are quite loud too, making loud CRASHBANG noises at unpredictable intervals. You get used to it, to such an extent that after a while you don't even notice it, even when you're trying to sleep.
My hearing is good for my age: I could hear the whine of a dying power supply for a sign when the technicians couldn't. For most of the video, I could not hear the wind turbines. When we got close enough for me to hear it I found the sound unremarkable, not quite soothing, but not aggravating.
If I had a house of my own, and enough cash, I'd have solar panels and a nice wind turbine of some kind. If it were an option (legally, it isn't) I'd 100% have a personal thorium nuclear reactor or something, done right they can be incredibly safe and nigh-impossible to screw up. Just to be clear, I'm not saying that wind power has NO drawbacks, because it does have a few. I'm just pointing out that some of the negative comments I'm seeing below... just don't make sense to me.