One of the best videos of Rameshji where he clearly explains his concept which led to his awakening and gives a practical guide for seekers to follow. Need to listen many times - with the heart!
The Ultimate Concept ! Thank You Guruji, Cosmic Law was indeed speaking through this three dimensional object called Ramesh, so clear and compassionate, what a patience ! OM🙏
Gratitude and hats off to the energy, love and patience shown by the master to this gentlemen despite repeated circular questions. That to at the age of 91 putting in so much energy. like a lamp burning only to radiate and illuminate other-the listeners in this case. Even after and hour of such questions how lovingly he says “please” go ahead and feel free to ask and does not give up on the gentleman. Feeling grateful I could here all the beautiful thoughts that came out. I did not know of him today until today and I feel lucky I do now. It’s destiny I guess!. Thanks to who so ever is uploading.
What an amazing Satsang. And he is right about enlightenment not being a certified event. In my humble opinion the proces of Self-realisation is like a school, but then a school where you unlearn any-thing mainly conditioning, concepts and beliefs and where you have to give back every certificate or degree you got before, cause you (by peeling off like an onion) found out that it was never you who got anything, did anything.
Amazing debunking of the concept of Enlightenment ❣️🙏 Thankyou and grateful to Rameshji and Atul too, I can totally relate to his questions. Atul did exactly what was in his destiny, cosmic law, God's will😊
True. I assume enlightenment will make me happy, or lead to less suffering. This is my first time listening to this man. As I listened I realized that all that I perceive is happening to nobody. The I that perceives his happening to nobody. Then I thought, why am I so certain that this is the case? I realized i want to believe it because I assume that the belief will bring me more pleasure than pain. I find that this is not the case. Its is merely a belief and has no baring on whether there is pleasure or pain. Even if it is true that I am nobody, I still don't know it yet. I may never know but for a realization of an ever deepening acceptance. All teachings are fingers pointing to the moon. The question asked was "so should I repeat it as a mantra, or do I need the help of a guru at a key moment in order to attain enlightenment?" The answer, as I see it, is, 'Ask yourself who you are as long as it allows you to be who you are. Happiness does not come from concepts.'
Not a mantra. Try this, ask, "Who am I?" And without using a thought, memory, concept, or perception find an answer. This will take you beyond the concepts of the mind.
There are lots of videos of Ramesh Balsekar on UA-cam. I would suggest you watch as many as you can and just listen without allowing your mind to jump in and disagree with the concepts he hands down . No mantras are required only to st quietly and ask what actions today were my actions …to enquire this way ( with the Will of god) the ego will realise it is not the doer.
Happiness or pleasure or pain or concepts or Enlightenment - occur (come) to you on their own. There's nothing in the world "you" can do to get it or avoid it. Because there's no "you" already! It, however, "appears" that you are some entity. You can't do "anything" to remove yourself from the equation because you aren't present already. There's ONLY Enlightenment!!
Know pleasure.. Enjoy.. Have pain.. Seek happiness.. Have Life as undercurrent.. Happiness is nothing to do with life But its about my ATTITUDES to LIFE
the most enlightening thing I hear is when he said about self investigation by sitting and seeing how a thought comes without even we realising and then we just decide to act on it or not, very profound, thanks for uploading this video, it answers many queries and purely an enlightening thing to hear, thank you so much.
@@otg1433 The acceptance Ramesh is talking about is not a personal acceptance ,it's impersonal , it doesn't mean that the imaginairy self is accepting everything .Acceptance is maybe not the right word .
@@Cameronfait Once there was a psychologist who asked Ramesh what the truth was and Ramesh replied ; When you think about it ,it's a concept ,when you don't think about it ,it's the truth ;.The mind will never get this and all the seeking is done by the mind .But seeking happens and there's nothing wrong or right about that ,it's just what's happening .
Atul didn’t understand that the whole question about Enlightenment arose from his Ego. Once his Ego is no longer in the forefront of his sense of existence then not only will he lose the question but the seeker in him will also cease and result in Enlightenment. Enlightenment is the ‘concept onion’ that you start peeling, in the hopes of getting to its core. You strip layer after layer and in the end the whole concept vanishes.
I believe that you may have missed the point? The point is that there is no such thing as "enlightenment" because in a sense only enlightenment is! Everything (and everyone) is a an absolutely perfect single whole that is the manifestation of the Absolute. And everything manifest is as it is and could not be any other way than what it is. So who is there to be enlightenment? Enlightenment already is! Manifest Existence itself IS absolute perfection and thus all are already "enlightened". Some seemingly individuated subjective units of consciousness simply experience consciousness in their own subjective way and thus label this conceptually as "enlightenment". As in something to be attained. There are no imperfections.
@@jamesmoore4827 I agree with all you said. Enlightenment cannot be viewed as an object or even a state because that term itself relates or references to another in a relative manner; to one who is “not” Enlightened. But for simplicities sake and to understand the concept we are using it verbally as an object. My apologies as well to Atul as well because I don’t mean any offense when I stated my opinion and decided to “think” on his behalf what he understood or didn’t. I think once one can settle their locus of attention inward toward the true self then there is only true love for everyone and everything around them and it radiates out. Hope I can get there someday even if it comes at the cost of Enlightenment ( the concept of which I believe is the hanging carrot tied with a rope at the end of a moving stick in front of the Donkey (me))
@@bodhiheerenthe fact that it is happening ..and all the procedures in nature ..just watch the nature ..doesnt matter if its randomness or gods will ..still happening as marcus aurelius said …u have to accept its power
Guruji has repeatedly emphasised on "destiny" and that its a God's will. A Buddhist, would argue this concept. Buddhist in its defence, would explain the law of cause and effect (Karma), everyman or woman shall reap what they sow.
Is there a litmus test for enlightenment. It's true that just because we studied theology we are not yet enlightened. Now that there actually is, the spiritual heart is open. What was Raman's experience at Turtle Rock? This is the lacmus test because everyone can only answer for themselves.
By the way, the symbol of the yogis is a turtle. But Ramana was not a yogi like Pramahansa Yogananda or others who talk so much about the centers in the head. There was someone who showed the world for the first time the true connection between the body and God. @@michaelmcclure3383
The young man asking the question doesn't stop to think, and jumps to ask the next question. Most of us do that don't we? Aaargh! I feel like saying get hold of yourself guy. Stop and try to get what he is trying to tell you.
buddha is an infj .. i am an infj .. its destiny destiny ..i am telling you .. what ramesh saar telling you is the truth the truth .. i have reached conclusion to the same thing even before reaching this .. i had suffered for more than 20 yesrs .. because both my father and wife is a narcissist .. .. also i suspect .. he is the intuitive type like us
Robert never said he was enlightened this young guy is is way off . Terrible explanation Robert Adams really talked or indicated silence.. much prefer him to this old guy
Lots of these types of over smart people in the world...he was a doctor so thought he was some great personality...asking ridiculous questions for the sake of asking.
His were the questions of a genuine confused seeker. His questions led to this great guru to explain his own spiritual quest and journey; which is full of such precious wisdom and guidance!
Namaste to all. I agree with Jayashri. This confusion and idioticity is there in the beginning with every seeker of truth. But it's the greatness of a true teacher to accept this and guide on the right path which was done beautifully by The Revered Guruji. Confusion is also a destiny and removal of confusion by meeting Great Gurus is again destiny. I feel Atulji's question were genuine and this vedio is of immense help to the seekers. My obeisance to the Great soul
Every satsang he says the same thing yet it’s still not fully downloaded in my understanding 24 hours a day! I will keep listening. ❤
Not in your control😅
Very powerful
Opened my eyes to many realities 🙏🙏
This is most powerful session that I have ever come across so far. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
One of the best videos of Rameshji where he clearly explains his concept which led to his awakening and gives a practical guide for seekers to follow. Need to listen many times - with the heart!
The Ultimate Concept ! Thank You Guruji, Cosmic Law was indeed speaking through this three dimensional object called Ramesh, so clear and compassionate, what a patience ! OM🙏
No other guru has hit hard right on my head. What a blessing to listen his talk. Thanks Guru ji.
Gratitude and hats off to the energy, love and patience shown by the master to this gentlemen despite repeated circular questions. That to at the age of 91 putting in so much energy. like a lamp burning only to radiate and illuminate other-the listeners in this case. Even after and hour of such questions how lovingly he says “please” go ahead and feel free to ask and does not give up on the gentleman. Feeling grateful I could here all the beautiful thoughts that came out. I did not know of him today until today and I feel lucky I do now. It’s destiny I guess!. Thanks to who so ever is uploading.
What an amazing Satsang. And he is right about enlightenment not being a certified event. In my humble opinion the proces of Self-realisation is like a school, but then a school where you unlearn any-thing mainly conditioning, concepts and beliefs and where you have to give back every certificate or degree you got before, cause you (by peeling off like an onion) found out that it was never you who got anything, did anything.
Amazing debunking of the concept of Enlightenment ❣️🙏 Thankyou and grateful to Rameshji and Atul too, I can totally relate to his questions. Atul did exactly what was in his destiny, cosmic law, God's will😊
Grateful to you For this sharing of guruji Ramesh Balsekar.. please share more...🥺💌🌠
The water was boiling for the first 30 minutes making a lot of noise.Slowly it got settled. Water understood it was its destiny to boil. 👌
Waters nature is to be still in its core essence
beautifully stated
@@Deepak94as is ours
True. I assume enlightenment will make me happy, or lead to less suffering. This is my first time listening to this man. As I listened I realized that all that I perceive is happening to nobody. The I that perceives his happening to nobody. Then I thought, why am I so certain that this is the case?
I realized i want to believe it because I assume that the belief will bring me more pleasure than pain. I find that this is not the case. Its is merely a belief and has no baring on whether there is pleasure or pain.
Even if it is true that I am nobody, I still don't know it yet. I may never know but for a realization of an ever deepening acceptance.
All teachings are fingers pointing to the moon.
The question asked was "so should I repeat it as a mantra, or do I need the help of a guru at a key moment in order to attain enlightenment?" The answer, as I see it, is, 'Ask yourself who you are as long as it allows you to be who you are. Happiness does not come from concepts.'
Not a mantra. Try this, ask, "Who am I?" And without using a thought, memory, concept, or perception find an answer. This will take you beyond the concepts of the mind.
There are lots of videos of Ramesh Balsekar on UA-cam. I would suggest you watch as many as you can and just listen without allowing your mind to jump in and disagree with the concepts he hands down . No mantras are required only to st quietly and ask what actions today were my actions …to enquire this way ( with the Will of god) the ego will realise it is not the doer.
Happiness or pleasure or pain or concepts or Enlightenment - occur (come) to you on their own. There's nothing in the world "you" can do to get it or avoid it.
Because there's no "you" already!
It, however, "appears" that you are some entity. You can't do "anything" to remove yourself from the equation because you aren't present already.
There's ONLY Enlightenment!!
Know pleasure..
Enjoy.. Have pain..
Seek happiness..
Have Life as undercurrent..
Happiness is nothing to do with life
But its about my ATTITUDES to LIFE
the most enlightening thing I hear is when he said about self investigation by sitting and seeing how a thought comes without even we realising and then we just decide to act on it or not, very profound, thanks for uploading this video, it answers many queries and purely an enlightening thing to hear, thank you so much.
Dada has beautifully handled this young boy Atul…..
" according to my concept enlightenment means the total acceptance" - Ramesh Balsekar
Excceptance means you are still in duality
@@otg1433 The acceptance Ramesh is talking about is not a personal acceptance ,it's impersonal , it doesn't mean that the imaginairy self is accepting everything .Acceptance is maybe not the right word .
Ramesh said once and i quote ;Enlightenment is seeing that there's no one who can get enlightenment ; .
@@Cameronfait A certified event would mean it's proven by yhe mind but the mind can't grasp this .
@@Cameronfait Once there was a psychologist who asked Ramesh what the truth was and Ramesh replied ; When you think about it ,it's a concept ,when you don't think about it ,it's the truth ;.The mind will never get this and all the seeking is done by the mind .But seeking happens and there's nothing wrong or right about that ,it's just what's happening .
Thanks for the uploading, om Shanti 🙏🏾
Great satsang! Please upload more if possible!
Thank you so much for posting. It is much needed. ❤️🙏
Wonderful ....please upload more... thanks in advance
Completely got it/grasped it what he said🙏
Thanks bro for the new video!!🙏🧡
Ohh after a long time...new video 😍🙏
Love 💕. please improve the audio quality. Thanks dear for your great sharing 💖
धन्यवाद।
Beautiful 🤩
Atul didn’t understand that the whole question about Enlightenment arose from his Ego. Once his Ego is no longer in the forefront of his sense of existence then not only will he lose the question but the seeker in him will also cease and result in Enlightenment.
Enlightenment is the ‘concept onion’ that you start peeling, in the hopes of getting to its core. You strip layer after layer and in the end the whole concept vanishes.
I believe that you may have missed the point? The point is that there is no such thing as "enlightenment" because in a sense only enlightenment is! Everything (and everyone) is a an absolutely perfect single whole that is the manifestation of the Absolute. And everything manifest is as it is and could not be any other way than what it is. So who is there to be enlightenment? Enlightenment already is! Manifest Existence itself IS absolute perfection and thus all are already "enlightened". Some seemingly individuated subjective units of consciousness simply experience consciousness in their own subjective way and thus label this conceptually as "enlightenment". As in something to be attained. There are no imperfections.
@@jamesmoore4827 I agree with all you said. Enlightenment cannot be viewed as an object or even a state because that term itself relates or references to another in a relative manner; to one who is “not” Enlightened.
But for simplicities sake and to understand the concept we are using it verbally as an object. My apologies as well to Atul as well because I don’t mean any offense when I stated my opinion and decided to “think” on his behalf what he understood or didn’t.
I think once one can settle their locus of attention inward toward the true self then there is only true love for everyone and everything around them and it radiates out. Hope I can get there someday even if it comes at the cost of Enlightenment ( the concept of which I believe is the hanging carrot tied with a rope at the end of a moving stick in front of the Donkey (me))
Thank u
Sounds like a very basic level of awakening. Peace of mind . But the me and other still exist in this talk .
So you are more enlightened, more awakened?
Please listen to me with your heart 💞
Accept the Intensity of Pain..
Outside in others and inside yourself
Be selfish for your happiness = enlightenment conceived
Everything is unfolding as it should. Everything is inevitable...
How on Earth can anyone know that? Do you know the cosmic plan? Do you know that there IS a cosmic law by which everything that happens is inevitable?
@@bodhiheerenthe fact that it is happening ..and all the procedures in nature ..just watch the nature ..doesnt matter if its randomness or gods will ..still happening as marcus aurelius said …u have to accept its power
14:00 pleasure vs. happiness
Enlightenment is concept
Not a certified event like Doctor..
Repeatedly Taking refugee under the cosmic law and relying on ones experience is escaping from the reality n consoling oneself.
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Atul sad to say you hv way to go
I need to contact dr.Athul
Undestanding is accepting the CONCEPT
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Yes but ….lol x Listen to me with your heart not your intellect. He was the master
Guruji has repeatedly emphasised on "destiny" and that its a God's will. A Buddhist, would argue this concept. Buddhist in its defence, would explain the law of cause and effect (Karma), everyman or woman shall reap what they sow.
Young man quite immature and argumentative. Before he could listen he becomes jumpy and asking the next question.
Is there a litmus test for enlightenment. It's true that just because we studied theology we are not yet enlightened. Now that there actually is, the spiritual heart is open. What was Raman's experience at Turtle Rock? This is the lacmus test because everyone can only answer for themselves.
By the way, the symbol of the yogis is a turtle. But Ramana was not a yogi like Pramahansa Yogananda or others who talk so much about the centers in the head. There was someone who showed the world for the first time the true connection between the body and God.
@@michaelmcclure3383
My destiny.. Gods will and Cosmic Law
Will someone accept it or not.. Understand it?
Their destiny...
Is the blond guy with the red shirt David Carse?
Divine certificate 😂
The young man asking the question doesn't stop to think, and jumps to ask the next question. Most of us do that don't we? Aaargh! I feel like saying get hold of yourself guy. Stop and try to get what he is trying to tell you.
Compassion in action
buddha is an infj .. i am an infj .. its destiny destiny ..i am telling you .. what ramesh saar telling you is the truth the truth .. i have reached conclusion to the same thing even before reaching this .. i had suffered for more than 20 yesrs .. because both my father and wife is a narcissist .. .. also i suspect .. he is the intuitive type like us
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its my destiny
Pink booklet is the capsule
Certificate is authority to make an mistake..
Quake!!
Robert never said he was enlightened this young guy is is way off . Terrible explanation Robert Adams really talked or indicated silence.. much prefer him to this old guy
Disrespectful and idiotic questioner. Should show more respect to this wise, respected teacher.
Lots of these types of over smart people in the world...he was a doctor so thought he was some great personality...asking ridiculous questions for the sake of asking.
Actually we shud thank this boy ….he has asked so much that dada has opened up and given beautiful explanation
His were the questions of a genuine confused seeker. His questions led to this great guru to explain his own spiritual quest and journey; which is full of such precious wisdom and guidance!
The guru taught Atul (and all of us) to listen with his heart not his intellect. Brilliant!
Namaste to all. I agree with Jayashri. This confusion and idioticity is there in the beginning with every seeker of truth. But it's the greatness of a true teacher to accept this and guide on the right path which was done beautifully by The Revered Guruji. Confusion is also a destiny and removal of confusion by meeting Great Gurus is again destiny. I feel Atulji's question were genuine and this vedio is of immense help to the seekers. My obeisance to the Great soul