Ashley was simply giving another opinion, these girls attacked her for nothing. Tosin obv doesn’t like her and all the girls (except cookie) just wanted to attack her. It’s legit Esther v Nunu all over again.
Liah. She defo just wanted to get involved in the mix because she already saw Danee and Tosin beef with her. I feel like if Ashleigh didn’t get held back she would’ve put Liah in A&E. Don’t be fooled by all them sweet looking girly girls, they be having them hands.
Ashley was going to sink the ship and the topic was being sidelined, so she had to be silenced she should’ve controlled herself not to take any of her views personal. Both of them were wrong though
men like Dami are always so quick to call out “the ugly friend”, forgetting THEY look like the ugly friend out of their boys. The call is coming from inside the home, it’s the audacity for me
I don’t care what you go off and do. Just let someone know that you are leaving the group. You don’t even have to give details just let us know you’re out. Thats it
that's the thing but they weren't even critiquing that point josh was the only one who stayed on the issue the others were throwing cheap shots and personally attacking her, she isn't a hoe the issue is she isn't putting safety measures in place when she does go off on her own
There’s no excuse to put your hands on anyone. It wasn’t even your fight. Ash had her opinion and people shouldn’t have come at her on a personal level. She started body shaming when she was clearly being cussed. I don’t agree with her opinion but Ash has every right to express her views without such backlash. Cookie and that other guy was the only one who saw the incident for what it is. No need for the violence.
This is what I was saying look it was an opinion we don’t have to agree but the whole point of debate is to have two sides at least without that it would have been one sided
I agree, it's almost as if it's a life lesson in itself. Sometimes you initially meet people and might be turned off by something they say or do. But once you spend a lot more time listening to them you realize they weren't so bad. Now I look forward to seeing her.
The issue is nobody was critiquing that point apart from josh the rest were just fixated on calling her a “h*e” the entire episode then gaslit her into thinking she was lashing out for no reason you cannot personally attack someone for 20 mins and act surprised when they clap back
Literally it’s about safety cause if anything happens in proximity u will be calling ur girls ? It’s about safety first no one is asking for permission
@@scyto1939 None of the girls called her a hoe until she disrespectfully tried to nudge the Congolese girl's hand away when she was making a point, that's when she got called a hoe. She started the disrespect and the negative energy, even tried to disrespect King Richez. Even so. You make a comment like "One night I might feel like going out clubbing with friends and getting some new dick' But then get angry people call you a 'hoe'? that show's she's insecure about herself.
@@scyto1939tbf tho Ashleigh said herself that she’s using an outside opinion to shake the debate a bit so they weren’t necessarily calling her a h*e but anyone who does that is a h*e so if they directly called her it that’s different.
There is no such thing as their or your truth. There is only THE truth. People..nope females are quick to judge and often deem correction for their wrongs as judgement. If you do something wrong, someone calling that out is not judgement.
Hey if he’s an ugly nigga like you seem to infer then wouldn’t ugly know what ugly is🌚🤷🏾♂️😂.. shit you don’t gotta look good to tell people the truth .. I mean it’s all subjective to a degree .. let’s not act like some of you don’t think of what he said
They hate Ashley’s confidence and self assurance, that’s why they’re ganging up on her. Tryna dim her light. She has her own opinion and they can’t stand it. Weak
Not at all she can get her point across without being rude and saying unnecessary comments, it has nothing to do with confidence and self assurance loool...
The fact she went in on these girls looks and used the word " kunt " just sums up to me how tapped some of you actually are. I see alot of people coming to her defence while she revealed her jezebel sprit, Its clear most of you watching are young with badmine energy because grown folks would look down on this BS
@@Lily-xo-xoexactly! she did the same thing to abigail, trying to be bare patronising and passive aggressive. she’s a classless and tacky girl who thinks she can’t through digs across to others.
@@Lily-xo-xo they called her a hoe the second she made her point? at 26:51 was it necessary for Dianee to make that comment when she wasn't even being talked to? ya'll instigate and gang up on somebody then blame the person who is justifiably frustrated behave please
This cast is too immature. Ashleigh was simply debating and giving a point. It may not be a popular one but it was a point. Ppl started making it personal and were all literally coming for her. So what she shouldn’t defend herself?? Ugh
The cast is extremely immature and narrow minded in my opinion. Ashleigh is simply playing devils advocate. I’m glad she stood up for herself. Coz ganging up on her was unnecessary.
@@bands_globalher points may not have been popular belief but to call her a hoe and gang up on her is just too damn much it’s a debate show at the end of the day she shouldn’t be attacked for having an opinion
Liah ngl you’re 4’11 if no one had intervened we’d be talking about you in past tense. Please for your own safety behave according to the centimetres God has given you.
Happy that Ashley stood her ground , you can disagree with someone without calling them derogatory names. In a debate offensive personal attacks should never be used
Finally chyna is right about something..Ashleigh is the pretty friend fake breast or not annoying or not, there is some level of jealousy. When youre the pretty person youre used to others trying to sabotage
Her stance isn't off she has a great point . For someone that has been celibate for two years and decides to have a one night stand with someone can never be a hoe ,health wise being celibate for too long is a problem too and it takes a responsible person to be celibate for that long....... But someone that dates multiple people and slept with each of them is not a hoe ,lol...... They pussy hawkers
I rate Ashleigh for having an opinion and sticking to it, reguardless of the backlash from the group, she bravely stuck to her opinion, if you don’t stand for something you will fall for anything… regardless of the topic…
It’s almost like they proved Chyna’s point about Ashleigh being the pretty one, which I didn’t want cuz she was wrong and strong but 5 of them jumping on her to the point the ghetto one ended up putting hands on her only inflates her ego further, got the girl quoting Beyoncé “you know your that b, when you cause all this conversation”. When that wasn’t the case. I feel sorry for the babe it seems like the bad female relationships in her life have tainted her view of female unity on a night out, to the point she would risk her safety, and let’s be real she wasn’t being hypothetical she was meant herself. It’s pitiful.
@@prettylittleliarsforever5902 she was definitely wrong and strong and tbh I did agree with the group but I wanted to allow for another perspective and it proved me right
Dianee keeps calling Ashley a jezebel but sitting there with chest as wide as a highway and on top of that body shaming Ashley. Now Ashley WAS wrong in her points but the girls excluding cookie were dead wrong for throwing insults at her because they didn’t agree with her opinions too. Tosin was also being one sided af. Low key proved Chyna’s point in a way
it’s one thing to dress like a hoe and to also play the actual role of a hoe, don’t let it go over your heads because it’s not the same thing.. many girls dress a certain type of way that other people would classify as them being a hoe but it doesn’t make them a hoe unless they act like one.
@@ftman461 what you talking about they insulted Ashleigh first liah was the one who started calling Ashleigh a “h*e” first at 12:52 and then rainee b0dy shamed Ashleigh FIRST at 17:20 and THEN liah sparked Ashleigh why you acting like these girls were innocent and Ashleigh’s response wasn’t justified? You man never come after the people who actually instigate the issue y’all always blame people for defending themselves actually watch the video
@scyto1939 you're right, I just don't get how liah is getting more hate than dianee or whatever her name is, and tosin was being biased aswell, but liah only got involved after ashleigh started talking about her friends looks, so why is liah getting the most hate? I don't get it.
Thank you my brethren SPEAK UP AND SPEAK OUT I missed the live premiere due to travelling but God knew what he was doing sorry Cos this young buck … didn’t know her name before & now I do know she just deserves to be called young buck ngl I have a suspicion that not only are you right but also that she followed the lead from a girl whom I think was named Abigail another musician sitting next to Ashleigh during an episode (were I learned Ashleigh was a musician / artist herself) So because Ashleigh kept it classy and didn’t decide to make things physical from the get go with Abigail her assumption was that she found the one … it was defo her demeanour that played a big part as they are both slim tings and lemme tell you ppl mistake my margerness and mannerful behaviour too until they had to FAFO 👀 Young buck needs to chill, learn to speak with her words, & stick to sending funny one liners across to the mandem because sorry sis all the lashes and fashion in the world won’t make you a girls girl with that mindset and behaviour… pls NOTE I didn’t say girly girl Ie … you’re acting like the type of girl that girls of character DO NOT want to be around but anywho youth is there for a reason lemme 🤐
it really jus felt like the girls didn’t even try to hear her point of view at all this episode, it is a DEBATE. she has to say her point of view and she got called a hoe and people expect her to relax? that’s bs man.
they called her a hoe in between every sentence and then acted like they wanted to drop it/move on tosin especially only checked Ashley when she should've checked her friend to the left for instigating the issue back up on multiple occasions
Nop they were just being honest fr even if it’s a man that does the one night stand he is a hoe…why couldn’t she just accept it as it is …getting offended and sugar coating it ….this generation is weird asf😂😂
Tbf Ashleigh had the floor most of the debate and gave 3 different examples (e.g. virgin girl, fresh from break up, 1-nighter). Dami was right about different levels to 304, and Ashleigh examples presented that of a 304. However, most of this episode was spent off the question and more on personal digs along/across the panel.
@@Bigchiefloveth this term "h*e" and 304 is used so loosely it doesn't even have a meaning anymore people will say a girl is a 304 regardless of the examples in which she does it so Dami's example is irrelevant so the only women who aren't 304s are women who are virgins or only sleep with men they're in releationships with? make it make sense and if im honest they came at her first with personal digs and insults ashleigh was rightfully upset and came back at them with the same vim
this video was just an episode dedicated to bullying ashleigh, i dont even agree with her stances but its so distasteful that grown adults cant disagree without shaming & collectively discriminating someone for having a different view
Tosin doesn't get called out either how you checking ashleigh at 26:51 and not Dianee who instigated yet again? josh was making a good point she didn't need to bring up the irrelevant h*e topic again the favouritism was blatant here
Comprehension is KEY! This season the cast don't seem to be able to comprehend the questions or they purposefully just want the angst. This question is not hard. If you go out with your girls and disappear to make out with a man that's fine, you should at least say to your girls "I'll be back" we live in a wild world, girls get roofied in clubs and kidnapped and when it goes down the public always looks to their friends to ask "where were you?" "why was no one helping you?" its a precaution simple. All this arguing over boobs and nonsense is actually silly if she said she doesn't need her friends then fine
Ashley’s way of thinking is dangerous, just like that jay slater guy that wondered off and is now missing, this is what the girls were trying to explain to her, the dangers of not informing your friends about your whereabouts
@@jhussle1 because when you start calling someone a hoe and actually physically assault them your point is invalid they definitely ganged up on her josh was the only one actually critiquing the point of her issue they fixated on calling her a hoe
@@jhussle1 because they strayed away from the actual point and started fixating on the fact that she's a "hoe" I dont agree with Ashley but lets not act like they didn't instigate the entire situation josh was the only one actually analysing the issue of what she was saying
Damm guys, Let's be honest. Ashleigh didn't attack nobody, she was the one being called a Hoe first because of her point of vieuw, which wasn't aligned with the others. She never started shit, until the congolese lady called her a hoe. Analyze the video, the fued started when she felt disrespected. I mean you can't throw stones and not expect to get a reaction back??? People are talking about how she came for someone looks and bodyshamed, but why are we ignoring the fact that someone came for her boob job first and said, " jealous this- pointing her body) in which she said " yes, look at you". Tosin was in no way Fair. She never held the congolese lady accountable for calling another woman a hoe, without knowing it to be 100% true, yet she was telling to ashleigh that they are woman and one shouldn't be coming for other women looks. Damm people. You can not like a person, but be fair at least. I applaud her for helding her own and being true to herself. I just wished that someone could've said something about it during the debate. Let's not bash people for having different point of views, let's be respectful and mindful
@@celsofraga8500 Fackin elll. Lmao. I can't lie as soon as Nunu said it, I got it.. But guys, this is bad lmao. I don't wanna be enjoy negativity like this, but I do?
Why does Dainee keep talking about Ashleigh having her boobs done? it’s giving she can’t afford one, jealousy🤧 Two separate occasions she brought it up
@@Sunshine_Worlddhonestly! I knew there’s something off about liah since her first episode..she’s defo one of them girls where she fights ppl to resolve disagreements 💀
Why not. Firstly, a man's main agency/attraction point for getting a woman is not his look. He has plenty of other things he can have that females value more. However, for you females, your primary agency to getting and keeping a man is your looks. Secondly, even if he is ugly does not mean he cannot spot and call someone else who is ugly what they are. 1+1=2, it does not matter whether a failed student or a harvard student says it. Truth just is. Focus on the message and not the messenger if you are smart.
@@Artist_substance Says a weak insecure female. Grab between your legs and if you ain't a man, you cannot tell a man what a "real" man is. That is some narcissistic controlling thing you females try to do but your SIGN language won't work. WORDS were made to describe reality. Some women are ugly so it is accurate to describe them as such. FACTS not feelings.
@@Artist_substance Spoken like a insecure weak hence controlling narcissistic female. Your SIGN language aka Shame won't work. You are not a man and can never determine what a real man is. Nice try. 2)Word in english were invented to described a certain reality. Some women are ugly hence its accurate to describe one like that. We cannot change the meaning just to placate your feelings. FACTS over feelings is what built the word. Go back to your father or a man if you have one, sit quietly and stop embarassing yourself online;-p
@@liahmonet.x Why are you on showing discussing topics when you don't really know anything about anything in life? At 19, you should be understand the leadership of your father or a strong man not in public talking like you are in any position to correct or lead someone. At 19, you should quiet, listening, seeking to learn etc not fixing your mouth to talk to let alone attack older people. Where is the girl code y'all talk about if y'all are publicly abusing each other and hitting each other?
@@liahmonet.x Understanding what you did wrong, owning that, and making changes so it does not happen again is what any smart decent person would do. Consider that instead of the lazy "what happened happened". Is that how your mum raised you? This is why I suggest you find your father or a man to train you as you are lost and whiling out with blasse attitude like you did nothing wrong or it does not matter.
We go out as a group, we stay in the group But if someone gets with someone, they just give the nod they are going Then, text or call when they finally get home, communication for safety As adults can do what the hell they like, just be mindful of your safety at the end of the day
Exactly I don’t even understand why everyone was coming for Ashley calling her a hoe. Who knows some of these people on this podcast have had one night stands we don’t know but everyone’s so quick to calling someone else a hoe, so pathetic
I like Ashley she stands her ground and is classy… I don’t like how they didn’t let them fight cuz no way someone’s pushing/punching my face and you hold me back… are you okay? Don’t respect that, that little girl Aliya whatever her name is needs to be humbled REAL QUICK she clearly ain’t got a job to be acting like a BEAST
Of course abigail warned you about the only girl she's intimated by 😂 abigail is worse than ashleigh abigail showed her first colours on the first episode, if you think ashleigh hypes herself up then you clearly don't know abigail, I can see you've sided with abigail due to a common enemy, typical black girl hating a** behaviour! *yawnnnnnn*
@@Finnicksversionshe really is not what has she said that’s been real? This girl is a hoe behind the scenes and on camera lying saying she is speaking for other women when really it’s all her.
As much as I don’t agree with not communicating on a night out, I love that Ashleigh stands on her opinion. You’re not going to shut me up, go fix your insecurities
that is a lot of hate coming from both sides. One side of the room doesn’t seem to understand when somebody else isn’t conforming to societal belief whereas the other side of the room is body shaming the other females Respectfully Ashley, you are allowed to be confident in your body and be confident in how you move, but when your confidence comes from body shaming another woman it really goes to show how insecure you actually are. you cannot get your body done and then turn around in the same breath to make fun of another woman who has the natural assets you paid for. it doesn’t give a ‘girl’s girl’ at ALL
Dianne body shamed Ashleigh first though, for having fake breasts. Why isn’t Dianee also classed as insecure? Calling another woman a hoe yet has her breasts out in a bodycon jumpsuit… Why is it that Dianne and Lia instigated all this by calling Ashleigh a hoe, acted outlandishly, yet only Ashleigh is penalised for reacting out of defence?
Not conforming to societal beliefs can be good and all, but if the behaviour you’re choosing to engage in is h*e behaviour, the you’re a h*e. If someone is a jobless bum that doesn’t believe in the 9-5 work week, they’re not conforming to societal standards but guess what? They’re still a jobless bum 😂😂
@parisizuchukwu3510, I agree with you. We should not condone body shaming, and Ashleigh’s comments towards Rainee were wrong. However, Rainee was not innocent; she outright called Ashleigh a hoe and made comments about her body first, which caused Ashleigh’s emotional response. All in all, emotions were running high, causing all objectivity to disappear.
@@tevbuff I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw this dianee was the one who started body shaming and sl*t shaming first its literally there at 17:20 I don’t understand why everyone’s giving her a free pass
If someone started calling me names first, I'm gonna fly back. Maturity goes out the window! Name calling shouldn't have happened in the place. Ashley retaliated.
Ashleigh is so unbearable. She is insecure and has a false loud confidence, seeks validation from the men, and forces an image of class but I can see right through it. Calling the other women on the panel ‘beasts’ was foul, distasteful, and uncalled for, she needs to control her emotions. There’s a chip on her shoulder that she needs to shed or else every episode with her will be unwatchable. Extremely aggressive, and I’m glad the other lady was able to resist her provocations. Saying she’s trying to represent what other ‘females’ would do was a lie, she knows she would do it but quickly changed her stance once the men didn’t agree. Ashleigh work on your conduct darling.
"forces an image of class ..." this right here!🎯 It seems like she was speaking for herself but wanted to push it like she was just playing devils advocate.
Ashleigh lived her truth ,the others hid in their own shadows 😂 they were intimated by Ashleigh's ability to come forward regardless of her being labelled (something most women fear) good on you Ashleigh, when they see you you as a threat you become a target it's a shame they all ganged up on you but keep doing you baby girl ,one day these girls skeletons will come outta the closet and you'll get the last laugh 😏👍🏼
Ashleigh confidence clearly ruffles a lot of feathers And she was only playing devils advocate asw and ppl were going mental ,although her saying things about ppl looks is completely wrong but eishhhh long day (devils advocate)
You’re too young… if she was so confident she wouldn’t allow being insulted get to her so much to the point she’s shouting over cast mates. If you’re truly confident within yourself there’s no reason to be getting so angry.
@@XclusiveAG this is such cap and you know it is you telling me you’ve never been upset at something someone has called you? Don’t lie This whole “you’re insecure if you get angry at what someone says” is ridiculous people have emotions and sometimes they lose their cool especially in heated debates you cannot berate and antagonise someone for almost 20 minutes and expect them to not feel a type of way
@@nelsona3468 you know what I mean people acting like she should’ve just sat there and took it multiple people coming at you like that would rightfully frustrate anyone to act like she isn’t confident because she got angry is absolute insanity to me as if nobody gets angry at being insulted 😂
The guys be seeking out a girl with Ashleigh's mindset on a night out and saying the friends are jealous to then call her a hoe which is why I cannot feel comfortable with my friend moving like that - it is disrespectful. Also with this spiking pandemic, it will just burden you if something bad was to happen. Just know what your friends are on and avoid going out with people like that, acting like on a night out is the only way you can find man.
To all the people saying that ppl are coming for Ashleigh because she's pretty are loud and wrong 😭😭. Ashleigh was only being confronted cause she was basically saying that she would compromise her own safety and her friends safety for a man. It was definetly wrong to say that she was a hoe but she didnt help her case either when she came for other girls looks. She gave the vibe of false confidence and seeking male validation cause she was never shouting at the guys who also called her a hoe - only the girls she was aggressive to .
@@lllooozzz111well if the shoe fits wear it. You definetly share the same sentiments as Ashleigh that's why your rooting for her so hard. Nobody is jealous of anyone who isn't street smart and clearly isn't a girls girl x
@@awasohna3959I advocate for people to have their own opinions about what they feel. There’s no right or wrong. Who tf are you or them to tell her she’s wrong and not a girls girl? Please get a clue. She can say how she feels without a bunch of hyenas jumping down her throat. You seem to share the same sentiments of attacking people when they think different than you. ❤
@@lllooozzz111 not really I didn't insult or attack other ppl unlike you who has been attacking all the other girls appearances except Ashleigh in this comment section , which shows your immaturity and your own inability to undertand different points of view without stooping so low. And I'm sorry leaving your friends for a man is not a girls girl move . The only reason why your cussing is cause you'd do it in a heartbeat.
Clearly these men have no idea the dangers and safety issues women go through on a daily basis especially on nights out . If nobody checked on her or worried and something happened to her the friends would be crucified for it and called bad friends . It’s not about what she’s doing it costs you nothing to be prudent to inform your group that you are safe . They are focused on the wrong thing . Their response is very immature and ignorant . How many women have been raped , drugged kidnapped killed . Women are forced to be each others keeper for safety reasons nobody is stopping their friends from doing what they want it’s nothing to do with jealousy . They need to mature up a little and actually focus on the question . It cost nothing to communicate because the roles were reversed & they left her without communication she would definitely feel the same way .
@@KBee752 thats the only thing ashleigh was wrong about but them fixating and calling her a "h*e" was out of pocket and then they fully gaslit her into thinking she was over-exaggerating especially Tosin. Josh was actually trying to break down this point exactly until that Dianee girl brought it back to calling her a "h*e"
The question is WHY would a woman not tell her friends that she's with a guy or where she is? Because of what they said. Women would be mad at men for calling them 'h*es' for partaking in one night stands or whatever, understandably, but this is clearly what women think of each other in those instances 🤔 women are just as judgemental as men are on that, if not more. That's why they don't say anything when they move like that, half the time. They don't want to be judged by their friends.
She never actually spoke bad ibr and popped down Ashleigh like how Ashleigh did her she spoke facts I can’t hate on someone who paid for their body to be happy with it when I own everything natural
Ashleigh really got bullied for NO reason. She’s trying to give other girls a voice and explain why they do what they do 🤦🏾♀️ people really follow the majority. wayyy too old to be senseless !
I agree with Ashleigh when she said to Tosin that she’s being no one-sided. When she was being called a hoe nobody told the perpetrator to stop but when she opened her mouth that’s when the line was drawn. She made a lot of hypothetical statements/scenarios so I don’t think she was talking from a point of view. I don’t agree with leaving your friends without a heads up but she didn’t deserve a slap/punch
No, this Ashleigh girl not only has fake friendships, she too is the fake friend n I pray she’s safe out here the way she’s acting… furthermore that’s her bidness. I’m gonna even pray for her friend cause she’s the one getting left for dead 😮💨
I’m scared for this generation. Simple communication skills. How is that hating or being controlling? We go out together, just tell me you’re leaving so I know you are safe. That is love.
I think that the beefs are more than just the debate we are seeing for a few minutes. They are filming for hours and I think a lot happens off camera. Look at the looks they’re already giving each other before the debate fully kicks off. Maybe that’s why it seems like Ash was aggressive or doing the most from the start of the debate. The cast in general really needs to work on talking one at a time and allowing each other to land their point. I feel like they also spend too long on people’s little side comments that interrupt someone’s point. I think Liah being one of the youngest cast member needs to represent herself a bit better. (Just my opinion 🤷🏽♀️)
Ashleigh ruined this episode with her screaming, edit: tbh i was a harsh with this comment, she was defo provoked but the way she responded wasn't mature either in my opinion and that's where i feel like it ruined the ep. There's been arguments before but no one let it take control of the episode to this extent in any season...
So them name calling her hoe should just be forgiven, people this days are really cheery pickers and who threw hands first. Say it with ur chest if u don’t like her but u can’t pin everything on her
What about the people attacking her. They made her scream and provoked her. Doesn’t matter if her opinions wrong or right. Everyone coming for her over an opinion Howw mature
If she was insecure she would be covering up her so called acne with makeup. But shes sat there natural unlike ashley who is fake from top to bottom if anyone is insecure then its Ashley which is why she was being loud for no reason
I think they wanted to bully Ashleigh they pretend like they don’t act like the Ashleigh that is defining. These women sit there and act like they are hail marry, we all know what kind of people they are.
I don't think so, ashleigh views aren't logical we on a night out and you decide to leave without out telling your friendship group you should be able to communicate to your friendship that this is where I'm going for your safety and your friends won't have to spend their night looking for you that is called being mature. Yes, you can be independent, but at least use your common sense.
@@KBee752 this is true but the issue is the only person who critiqued that point was josh the rest fixated on calling her a “h*e” for 20 minutes and acted surprised when she was justifiably upset Ashleigh was 100% in the wrong for not putting safety measures in place when she goes off on her own but she’s not a “h*e” whatsoever and the girl who punched her shouldn’t be back on the show
@scyto1939 I definitely don't agree with them calling her hoe because that's her opinion. If I were her, I would get mad too, but loose would be a good term
@@KBee752 true u can also share ur location with each other. but i think they hated her for a long time because how r they calling her a hoe and then telling her to calm down. One of the girl said if u r triggered by us calling u a hoe then u must be one and I find that statement crazy because as a black person if multiple white people in a group call me monkey, I will react not because I am monkey but the meaning behind that name calling. Also, such a contradicting panel the men said when their friend get with a girl they will clap and celebrate but are t they also becoming a man-whore according to their standard. We live in a society that we uplift kim Kardashian’s and cardi B but when it comes to regular person acting out on night out we call them hoes. The three women except for cookie walking around thinking they are holier than thou 😂😅🫢
@@KBee752 true I agree u can maybe call her inconsiderate or bad friend but calling her a hoe that is way out of order. This is a debate how stale and boring would it be if everyone agreed with each other and u can tell one of the guys and cookie said I don’t believe she act like that but been a devils advocate and taking the debate to another level. Because the definition of hoe is completely different. It is debate and does not need to get personal. Because let’s face it, in this day an age how would u describe a hoe, the panel looks dysfunctional calling her fake for having fake boobs but no one use to say that to Easter and other people. Let’s be real they should just say they strongly dislike her because no one tried to calm her down rather gaslighted her.
Ashleigh is defo the pretty 1 in the room and what’s happening in this episode is exactly why girls don’t share everything they do. For the girl in the white dress to think she’s the pretty one is absolutely wild!
@@prettylittleliarsforever5902 nah liah has more facial harmony, it’s just her attitude bring it down, but it doesn’t take away from the facts she’s beautiful
Who was in the wrong?
Ashley was simply giving another opinion, these girls attacked her for nothing. Tosin obv doesn’t like her and all the girls (except cookie) just wanted to attack her. It’s legit Esther v Nunu all over again.
Liah. She defo just wanted to get involved in the mix because she already saw Danee and Tosin beef with her. I feel like if Ashleigh didn’t get held back she would’ve put Liah in A&E. Don’t be fooled by all them sweet looking girly girls, they be having them hands.
I agree with the girls and the guys who came for Ashley sorry. How tf we gonna say Ashley is an okay thinker
everyone. The girls didn’t need to call ashley a hoe, the boys were instigating it AND ashley was bodyshaming. everyone was badmind this episode
Ashley was going to sink the ship and the topic was being sidelined, so she had to be silenced she should’ve controlled herself not to take any of her views personal. Both of them were wrong though
This topic is so stupid like cmon now, it’s common sense to communicate with your friends
You know what they say common sense is not common
@@MK-qb3rl that part 😅
clearly the sense is not common for everyone 😭😭😭😭
@@NanayaaAPX I feel like they’re just acting dumb for camera
If it was common sense I’m sure they are adults they would be able to know what the answer is
men like Dami are always so quick to call out “the ugly friend”, forgetting THEY look like the ugly friend out of their boys. The call is coming from inside the home, it’s the audacity for me
Don’t diss uncle rafool
Says the girl wearing buckets of make up, what you look like under der?😂😂
Was he wrong?
I don’t care what you go off and do. Just let someone know that you are leaving the group. You don’t even have to give details just let us know you’re out. Thats it
that's the thing but they weren't even critiquing that point josh was the only one who stayed on the issue the others were throwing cheap shots and personally attacking her, she isn't a hoe the issue is she isn't putting safety measures in place when she does go off on her own
😮😮😮😮😊✔️✅👍
Thank you😂😂
That's me, do u but let me know.
It’s that simple fr
There’s no excuse to put your hands on anyone. It wasn’t even your fight. Ash had her opinion and people shouldn’t have come at her on a personal level. She started body shaming when she was clearly being cussed. I don’t agree with her opinion but Ash has every right to express her views without such backlash. Cookie and that other guy was the only one who saw the incident for what it is. No need for the violence.
This is what I was saying look it was an opinion we don’t have to agree but the whole point of debate is to have two sides at least without that it would have been one sided
Ngl Cookie has been carrying this series back to back to back. She lowkey is my favourite even though I disagree with her 99.9% of the times.
Me toooo I love cookie on the show I also like Loyce ❤❤
It makes me annoyed that she even did Badderz. She clearly didn’t need to and this way a way better fit for her.
@@leatitiamairsx447cookie, Tosin, gabz and Damiiii are mine. They are tooo funny
you just fancy her bro be honest loool
I agree, it's almost as if it's a life lesson in itself. Sometimes you initially meet people and might be turned off by something they say or do. But once you spend a lot more time listening to them you realize they weren't so bad. Now I look forward to seeing her.
This cast as a collective can be extremely immature. A hypothetical debate should not lead to physical violence. The topic wasnt even that deep smh
That’s what I’m saying over the dumbest topic as well
Alot of people are like this.. only difference with this scenario is it’s on camera.
THISSSS‼️‼️‼️
@@P4PBoxingMediayep, you got it
exactly, they were all angry from the start of the debate
Girl code!!! no1 said don’t do your thing. But let a girl know your good and safe I don’t need details.
The issue is nobody was critiquing that point apart from josh the rest were just fixated on calling her a “h*e” the entire episode then gaslit her into thinking she was lashing out for no reason you cannot personally attack someone for 20 mins and act surprised when they clap back
is girl code calling another girl a ho
Literally it’s about safety cause if anything happens in proximity u will be calling ur girls ? It’s about safety first no one is asking for permission
@@scyto1939 None of the girls called her a hoe until she disrespectfully tried to nudge the Congolese girl's hand away when she was making a point, that's when she got called a hoe. She started the disrespect and the negative energy, even tried to disrespect King Richez.
Even so. You make a comment like "One night I might feel like going out clubbing with friends and getting some new dick'
But then get angry people call you a 'hoe'? that show's she's insecure about herself.
@@scyto1939tbf tho Ashleigh said herself that she’s using an outside opinion to shake the debate a bit so they weren’t necessarily calling her a h*e but anyone who does that is a h*e so if they directly called her it that’s different.
i rebuke a friend like ashley omg 😭
She’s a bit insensitive to her friends but I didn’t think she meant she would leave her friends for sex without telling them.
@@MartinPickett-e8mshe was literally jus giving a different perspective, that’s the whole point of a debate nah🥲
@@MartinPickett-e8mshe would lmao
@@MartinPickett-e8myes she does
Shes a hoo like literally
Dami shouldn’t be calling anyone ugly when he looks like that
Like what😂
Dygiii
Uncle rafool lmaooo
@@shuushyoujokeman9069BROOO OMDS TJIS IS WHAT IM SAYING!!! Even the way he speaks!!! 😭😭😭
Fr😂
chyna is actually right- people can’t live in their truth cause ppl are quick to judge
It’s supposed to be a debate not a roast smh 😂
No one.Cares if u speak to man but let ur friends know if ur gonna cut so they go panicking
@@unknown-cf6xkNope, even if she did, women will still get angry.
@@priincexavi5504 women are vulnerable and see friendships as sisterhoods. Not everyone’s gives af about jealousy and pretty friend
There is no such thing as their or your truth. There is only THE truth. People..nope females are quick to judge and often deem correction for their wrongs as judgement. If you do something wrong, someone calling that out is not judgement.
Dami calling somebody the ugly friend is nasty work. The audacity been passed the stratosphere
Hey if he’s an ugly nigga like you seem to infer then wouldn’t ugly know what ugly is🌚🤷🏾♂️😂.. shit you don’t gotta look good to tell people the truth .. I mean it’s all subjective to a degree .. let’s not act like some of you don’t think of what he said
The audacity! 😂😂😂😂
Liah Monet is saying are we in primary school, but yet she herself looks like she’s in primary school. I cannot 😭🤣
Liyah needs to be removed from BK Chat, if you dont it shows that you condone this type of violent behaviour
As a girl I always look out for my friends on nights on. Let’s be real you aren’t finding a husband at a club😂
You are not finding a wife at a club but shish, can't say anything that exposes female real nature.
They hate Ashley’s confidence and self assurance, that’s why they’re ganging up on her.
Tryna dim her light.
She has her own opinion and they can’t stand it. Weak
Not at all she can get her point across without being rude and saying unnecessary comments, it has nothing to do with confidence and self assurance loool...
@@Lily-xo-xoliterallyyyyyyy
The fact she went in on these girls looks and used the word " kunt " just sums up to me how tapped some of you actually are. I see alot of people coming to her defence while she revealed her jezebel sprit, Its clear most of you watching are young with badmine energy because grown folks would look down on this BS
@@Lily-xo-xoexactly! she did the same thing to abigail, trying to be bare patronising and passive aggressive. she’s a classless and tacky girl who thinks she can’t through digs across to others.
@@Lily-xo-xo they called her a hoe the second she made her point? at 26:51 was it necessary for Dianee to make that comment when she wasn't even being talked to? ya'll instigate and gang up on somebody then blame the person who is justifiably frustrated behave please
This cast is too immature. Ashleigh was simply debating and giving a point. It may not be a popular one but it was a point. Ppl started making it personal and were all literally coming for her. So what she shouldn’t defend herself?? Ugh
I understand them because Ashleigh point is absurd if we bein real but everyone needs to act accordingly still
The cast is extremely immature and narrow minded in my opinion. Ashleigh is simply playing devils advocate. I’m glad she stood up for herself. Coz ganging up on her was unnecessary.
@@bands_globalher points may not have been popular belief but to call her a hoe and gang up on her is just too damn much it’s a debate show at the end of the day she shouldn’t be attacked for having an opinion
@@bands_globalso bc u don’t agree with her opinion you calling her a hoe? Are u 5 yrs old
Liah ngl you’re 4’11 if no one had intervened we’d be talking about you in past tense. Please for your own safety behave according to the centimetres God has given you.
Past tense you know 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂 cm is wild but true . Light needs to sit down she already near the floor ffs
😂
Bloodclattt😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Cookie actually stayed out of this for the most part and that’s commendable 😂
This is progress
@@Dfw_timsam lol
Happy that Ashley stood her ground , you can disagree with someone without calling them derogatory names. In a debate offensive personal attacks should never be used
I agree with that. She is not a hoe but a bad friend for being boy crazy
She started it! She called people beasts, Ugly c**ts, talking about what they are wearing...
She is a hooo tho , she didnt lie
Finally chyna is right about something..Ashleigh is the pretty friend fake breast or not annoying or not, there is some level of jealousy. When youre the pretty person youre used to others trying to sabotage
Gabz-“I did my six pack”
DAMI- “go and get a refund”😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
had me chuckling 🤣
D’ami is too confident 😂😂😂😂😂
“I’m a woman of God” and calling ppl a Jezebel is crazy while your breast is out is giving hypocrite
It’s giving typical Christian
😂😂😂😂😂
We all can agree her stance was off but this is a debate. They kept insulting her and expected her to to be okay with it.
This was very sad to see
Yeah they kept calling her a hoe which would piss anyone off. I don't agree with her point but keep it respectful.
Her stance isn't off she has a great point . For someone that has been celibate for two years and decides to have a one night stand with someone can never be a hoe ,health wise being celibate for too long is a problem too and it takes a responsible person to be celibate for that long.......
But someone that dates multiple people and slept with each of them is not a hoe ,lol...... They pussy hawkers
I rate Ashleigh for having an opinion and sticking to it, reguardless of the backlash from the group, she bravely stuck to her opinion, if you don’t stand for something you will fall for anything… regardless of the topic…
💯💯
Cookie actually behaved like a girls girl.Ashley couldn’t give two about friends whereabouts 😂
Idk I like Ashleigh, don’t agree with what she said but the fact that she stood on her answer despite all the disagreements is bad ass
Yh I didn’t agree with what she said either but she tall 10s down on her own with Abigail and this episode.
U genuinely think she’s one of those girls who always wants to stand with mandem
I love Ashleigh... Didn't agree with her point at all but I love that she stands her point.
Yes, didn't agree with alot of what she said but some people were dragging it and provoking her for sure
She cooked them
Dami talking about anyone being unattractive is beyond a joke.
His face a jumpscare
Ashleigh was even doing devils advocate and she got these lot this pressed. looool never that deep😂😂😂😂
It’s almost like they proved Chyna’s point about Ashleigh being the pretty one, which I didn’t want cuz she was wrong and strong but 5 of them jumping on her to the point the ghetto one ended up putting hands on her only inflates her ego further, got the girl quoting Beyoncé “you know your that b, when you cause all this conversation”. When that wasn’t the case.
I feel sorry for the babe it seems like the bad female relationships in her life have tainted her view of female unity on a night out, to the point she would risk her safety, and let’s be real she wasn’t being hypothetical she was meant herself. It’s pitiful.
@@prettylittleliarsforever5902 she was definitely wrong and strong and tbh I did agree with the group but I wanted to allow for another perspective and it proved me right
@@mynameischynaindeed it did!
Fr
Yep 🤣
True
Dianee keeps calling Ashley a jezebel but sitting there with chest as wide as a highway and on top of that body shaming Ashley. Now Ashley WAS wrong in her points but the girls excluding cookie were dead wrong for throwing insults at her because they didn’t agree with her opinions too. Tosin was also being one sided af. Low key proved Chyna’s point in a way
😂😂😂😂😂😂
not wide as a highway🤣🤣
exactly, she said Ashley's breasts are out, while also having her breasts out
😂😂
it’s one thing to dress like a hoe and to also play the actual role of a hoe, don’t let it go over your heads because it’s not the same thing.. many girls dress a certain type of way that other people would classify as them being a hoe but it doesn’t make them a hoe unless they act like one.
Ashley has no sense😭. I’m fully convinced…she’s wierd
Ashleigh is one of those dickmatised women, it's quite sad actually.
You are weird
@@richardarinze-hu2qv be so fr😭
That girl talking about how she's a woman of God with her chest just sprawled out, shame is actually free
Exactly
Love to always quote God but she isn’t even holy, watch out for girls like that
@@fleabag6477 bible says render your heart not garments you can come to the lord anyway let’s not judge the major work is going on inside her
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thought i was the only one, like girl pls! 😂
This liah Monet girl is excited man. She’s literally the youngest there but her mouth is too quick
That’s how the women of that generation are there all cooked 😂
@@t_figs and she dares to ask people how old are you! How old are you! When she's the one that probably gets her clothes from the kids section 😭😭😭😭
Why is liah monet getting hate for standing up for her friend? She didn't get involved until the girl started cussing their looks
@@ftman461 what you talking about they insulted Ashleigh first liah was the one who started calling Ashleigh a “h*e” first at 12:52 and then rainee b0dy shamed Ashleigh FIRST at 17:20 and THEN liah sparked Ashleigh why you acting like these girls were innocent and Ashleigh’s response wasn’t justified? You man never come after the people who actually instigate the issue y’all always blame people for defending themselves actually watch the video
@scyto1939 you're right, I just don't get how liah is getting more hate than dianee or whatever her name is, and tosin was being biased aswell, but liah only got involved after ashleigh started talking about her friends looks, so why is liah getting the most hate? I don't get it.
They bullied that girl Ashleigh. The cast and production team need to issue an apology to that poor girl. Horrible horrible people
Liah in her heart believed she can beat Ashleigh up hence she took her chance bcoz we all know she ain't fighting no other woman In the group.
Speak outtt
Thank you my brethren SPEAK UP AND SPEAK OUT
I missed the live premiere due to travelling but God knew what he was doing sorry
Cos this young buck … didn’t know her name before & now I do know she just deserves to be called young buck ngl
I have a suspicion that not only are you right but also that she followed the lead from a girl whom I think was named Abigail another musician sitting next to Ashleigh during an episode (were I learned Ashleigh was a musician / artist herself)
So because Ashleigh kept it classy and didn’t decide to make things physical from the get go with Abigail her assumption was that she found the one … it was defo her demeanour that played a big part as they are both slim tings and lemme tell you ppl mistake my margerness and mannerful behaviour too until they had to FAFO 👀
Young buck needs to chill, learn to speak with her words, & stick to sending funny one liners across to the mandem because sorry sis all the lashes and fashion in the world won’t make you a girls girl with that mindset and behaviour… pls NOTE I didn’t say girly girl
Ie … you’re acting like the type of girl that girls of character DO NOT want to be around but anywho youth is there for a reason lemme 🤐
No she did that knowing that people were gonna come and break it up before it got too out of hand, cause otherwise she wouldn't be so brave.
Thank youu!!! U can literally see when shes psyching herself up to attack her, she's just a bully.
You don’t know her and trust me she could size ain’t a problem
liah is a weirdo to me
She’s a weirdo irl too , I know blocks of niggas that have passed her around😂 then she comes on back chat with this whole new persona
The only girl not hating on Ashleigh is Cookie.
it really jus felt like the girls didn’t even try to hear her point of view at all this episode, it is a DEBATE. she has to say her point of view and she got called a hoe and people expect her to relax? that’s bs man.
they called her a hoe in between every sentence and then acted like they wanted to drop it/move on tosin especially only checked Ashley when she should've checked her friend to the left for instigating the issue back up on multiple occasions
Yeah they pretty much bullied her on camera just because she had a different opinion.
Nop they were just being honest fr even if it’s a man that does the one night stand he is a hoe…why couldn’t she just accept it as it is …getting offended and sugar coating it ….this generation is weird asf😂😂
Tbf Ashleigh had the floor most of the debate and gave 3 different examples (e.g. virgin girl, fresh from break up, 1-nighter). Dami was right about different levels to 304, and Ashleigh examples presented that of a 304. However, most of this episode was spent off the question and more on personal digs along/across the panel.
@@Bigchiefloveth this term "h*e" and 304 is used so loosely it doesn't even have a meaning anymore people will say a girl is a 304 regardless of the examples in which she does it so Dami's example is irrelevant so the only women who aren't 304s are women who are virgins or only sleep with men they're in releationships with? make it make sense and if im honest they came at her first with personal digs and insults ashleigh was rightfully upset and came back at them with the same vim
Tosin is “nasty nice” definitely been side eyeing her since the first episode.
She looks like Chioma who used to act the same way towards Nunu on Bkchat
Keep side eyeing me babe LOOOOL and keep watching too Xx
The guy saying he will make Ashley cry is childish as hell, getting bare heated for what🤣
Ashley screaming like a demon in the back was hilarious idc 💀
Made me crease
It’s that Jezebel spirit I swrrr 😭🤦🏽♂️
Alie🤣🤣
She cooked
She was attacked unprovoked & was upset so of course she's gonna let out emotions. I don't get what's so hilarious about that tbh!
this video was just an episode dedicated to bullying ashleigh, i dont even agree with her stances but its so distasteful that grown adults cant disagree without shaming & collectively discriminating someone for having a different view
They are all the jealous friends that ashleigh was talking about fr 💀💀
Exactly
Ding ding ding 😂
Liah and Dainee as well as the others was immature for coming at Ashleigh. Cookie was the sensible one here.
Tbh cookie went on a show called badderz she cant exactly start getting involved to call girls hoes when a ‘badderz’ literally is a hoe
Tosin doesn't get called out either how you checking ashleigh at 26:51 and not Dianee who instigated yet again? josh was making a good point she didn't need to bring up the irrelevant h*e topic again the favouritism was blatant here
@@DRandR1productionz I called out Dainee and Tosin as well as the boys for attacking Ashleigh
I don’t even agree with Ashleigh’s point but it’s giving the girls are envious of her ! They all did toooo much for no reason
Jealous? Lmfao
@@Amaralivilava yes very jealous. They did too much for no reason
@@Jenjen__160 you are easily impressed by a bucket of makeup smh
@@stoleethatsme has nothing to do with that… most of the girls are wearing makeup?
Comprehension is KEY! This season the cast don't seem to be able to comprehend the questions or they purposefully just want the angst. This question is not hard. If you go out with your girls and disappear to make out with a man that's fine, you should at least say to your girls "I'll be back" we live in a wild world, girls get roofied in clubs and kidnapped and when it goes down the public always looks to their friends to ask "where were you?" "why was no one helping you?" its a precaution simple. All this arguing over boobs and nonsense is actually silly if she said she doesn't need her friends then fine
Honestly this!! I felt stupid watching this! I guess they are arguing foolishly for content 😌
@Yourp360 every episode feels like it's only created for the drama the questions just fall off in the firstbfew minutes
Ashley’s way of thinking is dangerous, just like that jay slater guy that wondered off and is now missing, this is what the girls were trying to explain to her, the dangers of not informing your friends about your whereabouts
Thisssssss
Exactly, Josh even tried to reason with her near the end.
I was literally about to mention Jay Slater. He wondered off and now he's been missing more than 2 weeks!!
@@jhussle1 because when you start calling someone a hoe and actually physically assault them your point is invalid they definitely ganged up on her josh was the only one actually critiquing the point of her issue they fixated on calling her a hoe
@@jhussle1 because they strayed away from the actual point and started fixating on the fact that she's a "hoe" I dont agree with Ashley but lets not act like they didn't instigate the entire situation josh was the only one actually analysing the issue of what she was saying
Damm guys, Let's be honest. Ashleigh didn't attack nobody, she was the one being called a Hoe first because of her point of vieuw, which wasn't aligned with the others. She never started shit, until the congolese lady called her a hoe. Analyze the video, the fued started when she felt disrespected.
I mean you can't throw stones and not expect to get a reaction back??? People are talking about how she came for someone looks and bodyshamed, but why are we ignoring the fact that someone came for her boob job first and said, " jealous this- pointing her body) in which she said " yes, look at you".
Tosin was in no way Fair. She never held the congolese lady accountable for calling another woman a hoe, without knowing it to be 100% true, yet she was telling to ashleigh that they are woman and one shouldn't be coming for other women looks.
Damm people. You can not like a person, but be fair at least.
I applaud her for helding her own and being true to herself. I just wished that someone could've said something about it during the debate.
Let's not bash people for having different point of views, let's be respectful and mindful
I can’t lie dis Tosin girl is weird ….fuck it half the cast is weirdo😂😂
She’s coming like the new Esther tbh. 😂
Giving fake vibes and bully behavior 😭
Yea she gotta go
😂😂😂😂
Liyah waited till someone was standing in between them to hit Ash? Totally a punk ass move
They have been trying Ashleigh and Loyce from day 1 and today Ashleigh snapped. They really did seem like haters.
Long faced Tosin, I can't believe it lmao
She actually said she’s the fine babe of her group 😬.. that group must look spooky as hell cl
@@celsofraga8500 Fackin elll. Lmao. I can't lie as soon as Nunu said it, I got it.. But guys, this is bad lmao. I don't wanna be enjoy negativity like this, but I do?
i laughed my ass off
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@@celsofraga8500 y what's wrong with her
Literally ganged up on Ashley and punched her that’s weak
The girl with the tropical jumpsuit is weird vibes
Very much so, giving low self esteem
Hella weird
literally
High school bully grown up.
Why does Dainee keep talking about Ashleigh having her boobs done? it’s giving she can’t afford one, jealousy🤧 Two separate occasions she brought it up
Leah needs to be off the show
To get physical is too far
she just wanted to bee seen so badd
@@Sunshine_Worlddhonestly! I knew there’s something off about liah since her first episode..she’s defo one of them girls where she fights ppl to resolve disagreements 💀
@@MagicStar53 and for attention!! She soooo loud, wrong and weird. Acting like a whole man ew
She’s too immature
@@MagicStar53she’s not like this in real life!!!
Dami should not be calling anyone ugly😅
Why not. Firstly, a man's main agency/attraction point for getting a woman is not his look. He has plenty of other things he can have that females value more. However, for you females, your primary agency to getting and keeping a man is your looks. Secondly, even if he is ugly does not mean he cannot spot and call someone else who is ugly what they are. 1+1=2, it does not matter whether a failed student or a harvard student says it. Truth just is. Focus on the message and not the messenger if you are smart.
@@Gchild2k6 a real man does not call a woman ugly! Your doing too much in the reply I honestly don’t give af. I said what I said!!!
@@Artist_substance Says a weak insecure female. Grab between your legs and if you ain't a man, you cannot tell a man what a "real" man is. That is some narcissistic controlling thing you females try to do but your SIGN language won't work. WORDS were made to describe reality. Some women are ugly so it is accurate to describe them as such. FACTS not feelings.
@@Gchild2k6 but then when a woman says she wants a provider… she’s a gold digger lol
@@Artist_substance Spoken like a insecure weak hence controlling narcissistic female. Your SIGN language aka Shame won't work. You are not a man and can never determine what a real man is. Nice try. 2)Word in english were invented to described a certain reality. Some women are ugly hence its accurate to describe one like that. We cannot change the meaning just to placate your feelings. FACTS over feelings is what built the word. Go back to your father or a man if you have one, sit quietly and stop embarassing yourself online;-p
I’m just clocking Dami is 100% Uncle Rafool 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
bmt
He is
After watching *just* his mouth for years, I noticed from the jump 🤣 it’s very distinctive
Yeppp ru it back to 017 days
He's done multiple face reveals on his platform before. It's like kwengface. The mask is just a gimmick.
Im not gonna lie these people in their late 20s early 30s sound so immature my God!
Youngest 19🤭
@@liahmonet.x Why are you on showing discussing topics when you don't really know anything about anything in life? At 19, you should be understand the leadership of your father or a strong man not in public talking like you are in any position to correct or lead someone. At 19, you should quiet, listening, seeking to learn etc not fixing your mouth to talk to let alone attack older people. Where is the girl code y'all talk about if y'all are publicly abusing each other and hitting each other?
@@Gchild2k6 oh well 🤷🏾♀️ what happened happened
@@liahmonet.x Understanding what you did wrong, owning that, and making changes so it does not happen again is what any smart decent person would do. Consider that instead of the lazy "what happened happened". Is that how your mum raised you? This is why I suggest you find your father or a man to train you as you are lost and whiling out with blasse attitude like you did nothing wrong or it does not matter.
@@Gchild2k6 got an amazing father and even if that’s not how my mum raised me you can’t change the past fool so what happened happened 😂
We go out as a group, we stay in the group
But if someone gets with someone, they just give the nod they are going
Then, text or call when they finally get home, communication for safety
As adults can do what the hell they like, just be mindful of your safety at the end of the day
Exactly I don’t even understand why everyone was coming for Ashley calling her a hoe. Who knows some of these people on this podcast have had one night stands we don’t know but everyone’s so quick to calling someone else a hoe, so pathetic
I like Ashley she stands her ground and is classy… I don’t like how they didn’t let them fight cuz no way someone’s pushing/punching my face and you hold me back… are you okay? Don’t respect that, that little girl Aliya whatever her name is needs to be humbled REAL QUICK she clearly ain’t got a job to be acting like a BEAST
She is nowhere near classy pleaseee stop pretending 😭
@@salenaxo but ur mum isnt
@@salenaxoyes she is. In a room full of ghetto beasts
Cook 🤣
Classy? Google the word Classy cause she ain’t there
Abigail and Asheleigh need to goooo ASAPPPPP. They always ruin the mood
Abi warned us about her !!! LOL and Abigail is acc coooooool
Of course abigail warned you about the only girl she's intimated by 😂 abigail is worse than ashleigh abigail showed her first colours on the first episode, if you think ashleigh hypes herself up then you clearly don't know abigail, I can see you've sided with abigail due to a common enemy, typical black girl hating a** behaviour! *yawnnnnnn*
no ashs real and u lot hate that
@@Finnicksversionshe really is not what has she said that’s been real? This girl is a hoe behind the scenes and on camera lying saying she is speaking for other women when really it’s all her.
Abigail is the worse
“Use your dominance as a man shout!” 😂
😂 nah she violated me with that they want her shouting every second
My favourite part 😂
@jordeminnis8580 😂 nah we love cookie still make sure you tuned in tonight’s episode
As much as I don’t agree with not communicating on a night out, I love that Ashleigh stands on her opinion. You’re not going to shut me up, go fix your insecurities
At the end of the day yh, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. No one needs to get physical.
that is a lot of hate coming from both sides. One side of the room doesn’t seem to understand when somebody else isn’t conforming to societal belief whereas the other side of the room is body shaming the other females
Respectfully Ashley, you are allowed to be confident in your body and be confident in how you move, but when your confidence comes from body shaming another woman it really goes to show how insecure you actually are. you cannot get your body done and then turn around in the same breath to make fun of another woman who has the natural assets you paid for. it doesn’t give a ‘girl’s girl’ at ALL
Dianne body shamed Ashleigh first though, for having fake breasts. Why isn’t Dianee also classed as insecure? Calling another woman a hoe yet has her breasts out in a bodycon jumpsuit…
Why is it that Dianne and Lia instigated all this by calling Ashleigh a hoe, acted outlandishly, yet only Ashleigh is penalised for reacting out of defence?
Not conforming to societal beliefs can be good and all, but if the behaviour you’re choosing to engage in is h*e behaviour, the you’re a h*e. If someone is a jobless bum that doesn’t believe in the 9-5 work week, they’re not conforming to societal standards but guess what? They’re still a jobless bum 😂😂
@parisizuchukwu3510, I agree with you. We should not condone body shaming, and Ashleigh’s comments towards Rainee were wrong. However, Rainee was not innocent; she outright called Ashleigh a hoe and made comments about her body first, which caused Ashleigh’s emotional response. All in all, emotions were running high, causing all objectivity to disappear.
@@tevbuff I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw this dianee was the one who started body shaming and sl*t shaming first its literally there at 17:20 I don’t understand why everyone’s giving her a free pass
If someone started calling me names first, I'm gonna fly back. Maturity goes out the window! Name calling shouldn't have happened in the place. Ashley retaliated.
Ashleigh is so unbearable. She is insecure and has a false loud confidence, seeks validation from the men, and forces an image of class but I can see right through it. Calling the other women on the panel ‘beasts’ was foul, distasteful, and uncalled for, she needs to control her emotions. There’s a chip on her shoulder that she needs to shed or else every episode with her will be unwatchable. Extremely aggressive, and I’m glad the other lady was able to resist her provocations. Saying she’s trying to represent what other ‘females’ would do was a lie, she knows she would do it but quickly changed her stance once the men didn’t agree. Ashleigh work on your conduct darling.
"forces an image of class ..." this right here!🎯
It seems like she was speaking for herself but wanted to push it like she was just playing devils advocate.
Thank you I’m glad you saw this. Cause chileeeeeee
I agree 🎉
Ashleigh did nothing but said the truth and that girl was mad for no reason.
Well said
Ashleigh lived her truth ,the others hid in their own shadows 😂 they were intimated by Ashleigh's ability to come forward regardless of her being labelled (something most women fear) good on you Ashleigh, when they see you you as a threat you become a target it's a shame they all ganged up on you but keep doing you baby girl ,one day these girls skeletons will come outta the closet and you'll get the last laugh 😏👍🏼
the one sane comment on here they're all so intimdated by her
Facts!
They are hella intimidated by her
If you were friends with Ashley and she left you for d**k with no communication I guarantee you'd have a different stance. But the internet... lol.
Ashleigh confidence clearly ruffles a lot of feathers
And she was only playing devils advocate asw and ppl were going mental ,although her saying things about ppl looks is completely wrong but eishhhh long day
(devils advocate)
Fake confidence
You’re too young… if she was so confident she wouldn’t allow being insulted get to her so much to the point she’s shouting over cast mates. If you’re truly confident within yourself there’s no reason to be getting so angry.
@@XclusiveAG this is such cap and you know it is you telling me you’ve never been upset at something someone has called you? Don’t lie This whole “you’re insecure if you get angry at what someone says” is ridiculous people have emotions and sometimes they lose their cool especially in heated debates you cannot berate and antagonise someone for almost 20 minutes and expect them to not feel a type of way
@@scyto1939 especially if you’re getting attacked by multiple people giving false accusations- you’re automatically on the defensive
@@nelsona3468 you know what I mean people acting like she should’ve just sat there and took it multiple people coming at you like that would rightfully frustrate anyone to act like she isn’t confident because she got angry is absolute insanity to me as if nobody gets angry at being insulted 😂
The guys be seeking out a girl with Ashleigh's mindset on a night out and saying the friends are jealous to then call her a hoe which is why I cannot feel comfortable with my friend moving like that - it is disrespectful. Also with this spiking pandemic, it will just burden you if something bad was to happen. Just know what your friends are on and avoid going out with people like that, acting like on a night out is the only way you can find man.
Not tosin saying she’s the pretty friend 😂😂😂😂
Nerves were getting TOUCHED in this episode, lmao !!
To all the people saying that ppl are coming for Ashleigh because she's pretty are loud and wrong 😭😭. Ashleigh was only being confronted cause she was basically saying that she would compromise her own safety and her friends safety for a man. It was definetly wrong to say that she was a hoe but she didnt help her case either when she came for other girls looks. She gave the vibe of false confidence and seeking male validation cause she was never shouting at the guys who also called her a hoe - only the girls she was aggressive to .
Thissssssss
Incorrect
@@lllooozzz111well if the shoe fits wear it. You definetly share the same sentiments as Ashleigh that's why your rooting for her so hard. Nobody is jealous of anyone who isn't street smart and clearly isn't a girls girl x
@@awasohna3959I advocate for people to have their own opinions about what they feel. There’s no right or wrong. Who tf are you or them to tell her she’s wrong and not a girls girl? Please get a clue. She can say how she feels without a bunch of hyenas jumping down her throat. You seem to share the same sentiments of attacking people when they think different than you. ❤
@@lllooozzz111 not really I didn't insult or attack other ppl unlike you who has been attacking all the other girls appearances except Ashleigh in this comment section , which shows your immaturity and your own inability to undertand different points of view without stooping so low. And I'm sorry leaving your friends for a man is not a girls girl move . The only reason why your cussing is cause you'd do it in a heartbeat.
Clearly these men have no idea the dangers and safety issues women go through on a daily basis especially on nights out . If nobody checked on her or worried and something happened to her the friends would be crucified for it and called bad friends . It’s not about what she’s doing it costs you nothing to be prudent to inform your group that you are safe . They are focused on the wrong thing . Their response is very immature and ignorant . How many women have been raped , drugged kidnapped killed . Women are forced to be each others keeper for safety reasons nobody is stopping their friends from doing what they want it’s nothing to do with jealousy . They need to mature up a little and actually focus on the question . It cost nothing to communicate because the roles were reversed & they left her without communication she would definitely feel the same way .
Fr and ashleigh as women should know this as well.
@@KBee752 thats the only thing ashleigh was wrong about but them fixating and calling her a "h*e" was out of pocket and then they fully gaslit her into thinking she was over-exaggerating especially Tosin. Josh was actually trying to break down this point exactly until that Dianee girl brought it back to calling her a "h*e"
Literally it costs nothing, I had a guy tell me I should try being an Uber driver. The ignorance brooo
This comment!!!
The question is WHY would a woman not tell her friends that she's with a guy or where she is? Because of what they said. Women would be mad at men for calling them 'h*es' for partaking in one night stands or whatever, understandably, but this is clearly what women think of each other in those instances 🤔 women are just as judgemental as men are on that, if not more. That's why they don't say anything when they move like that, half the time. They don't want to be judged by their friends.
Cookie ate this episode, and I love how Ashleigh stood her ground, everyone else is weird
Literally
Tosin is that auntie girl in the group who you’d think is cool but you realise ain’t your friend at all
This she is weird
I love Ashley, she's definitely not a people pleaser and she stands on business
“You’re not gonna talk about next girl look” but ya’ll let the girl with the glasses talk about Ashleigh’s LOOK???? 😂😂😂 PLEASE
Shame on All of you she said what she thought and you lot started throwing insults
Clearly you lot are jealous
The pretty girl in the room lol
She a baddie they know she a ten
@@mobrown7594honestly legit proving chynas point
Liah-Monet was telling Ashley to not talk about next girls looks but had nothing to say when the other girl was talking about Ashleigh’s chest💀
She never actually spoke bad ibr and popped down Ashleigh like how Ashleigh did her she spoke facts I can’t hate on someone who paid for their body to be happy with it when I own everything natural
well she did call the girl an ugly c***nt that is so deep
Ashleigh really got bullied for NO reason. She’s trying to give other girls a voice and explain why they do what they do 🤦🏾♀️ people really follow the majority. wayyy too old to be senseless !
I agree with Ashleigh when she said to Tosin that she’s being no one-sided. When she was being called a hoe nobody told the perpetrator to stop but when she opened her mouth that’s when the line was drawn. She made a lot of hypothetical statements/scenarios so I don’t think she was talking from a point of view. I don’t agree with leaving your friends without a heads up but she didn’t deserve a slap/punch
icl it was a mess and very regressive but there were so many funny moments - cookie telling Chyna to use his dominance and then grr'ing 🤣🤣
@@betheledora 💀😂🤣
😂 What do you mean use my dominance shout then when I do they be like he shouting all the time 😂 nah this ain’t fair
I really like the way Ashleigh stood up for what she believe in and her point of view.
No, this Ashleigh girl not only has fake friendships, she too is the fake friend n I pray she’s safe out here the way she’s acting… furthermore that’s her bidness. I’m gonna even pray for her friend cause she’s the one getting left for dead 😮💨
Sis thinks she’s on baddies😩🤣🤣
🤣
Ready to throw hands over an opinion like an animal 😂😂😂
@@lllooozzz111embodiment of ghetto
@@lllooozzz111 but she wants to talk about being mature and saying others act like they in primary school LOL
Lmaooooooooooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
dainee is a hater let's be honest, a secure woman wouldn't be acting like this.
I’m scared for this generation. Simple communication skills. How is that hating or being controlling? We go out together, just tell me you’re leaving so I know you are safe. That is love.
I think that the beefs are more than just the debate we are seeing for a few minutes. They are filming for hours and I think a lot happens off camera. Look at the looks they’re already giving each other before the debate fully kicks off. Maybe that’s why it seems like Ash was aggressive or doing the most from the start of the debate.
The cast in general really needs to work on talking one at a time and allowing each other to land their point. I feel like they also spend too long on people’s little side comments that interrupt someone’s point.
I think Liah being one of the youngest cast member needs to represent herself a bit better.
(Just my opinion 🤷🏽♀️)
Most of them are immature and especially liah, still thinks she’s in secondary
Agreed! Her being physical was highly unnecessary aswell.
Ashleigh ruined this episode with her screaming,
edit: tbh i was a harsh with this comment, she was defo provoked but the way she responded wasn't mature either in my opinion and that's where i feel like it ruined the ep. There's been arguments before but no one let it take control of the episode to this extent in any season...
So them name calling her hoe should just be forgiven, people this days are really cheery pickers and who threw hands first. Say it with ur chest if u don’t like her but u can’t pin everything on her
What about the people attacking her. They made her scream and provoked her. Doesn’t matter if her opinions wrong or right. Everyone coming for her over an opinion Howw mature
She was being attacked, she was fighting back. 🤷🏾♂️
Y’all so bised she was getting provoked
@@Ki-lv8iy she ruined the show by standing up for herself while been called a whore, how dare she do that???
MESSAY 🤣🤣🤣🤣 they need to leave Ashley alone
calling out the creased outfit is crazy😂😂😂😂 i know that one hit
The girl that was wearing multicolours is defo the messy friend in her friend group u can telllll.
Ashley gets on my nerves. Screams pick me too 🥴😊
Logic went out the window. Chyna was right she didn't say she was the one in the scenario. She was speaking in general.
That Danina girl with all that face acne is insecure and tried to play Ashleigh. She had no reason to do all of that!!!
If she was insecure she wouldn't be on the show !! She's comfortable in her skin
Kk
@@SK-be9puclearly she is for her to stoop so low with all that name calling
LOL if anyone’s insecure it’s Ashleigh. How’ve you got body done but body shaming the other girls? insecure at its finest
If she was insecure she would be covering up her so called acne with makeup. But shes sat there natural unlike ashley who is fake from top to bottom if anyone is insecure then its Ashley which is why she was being loud for no reason
As much as I dislike ashley she is the preetiest in the group
Yep
by far
thats why they came for her
Nope glasses is
Ya’ll think Alisha is really pretty? LOL Kk 🎉
I think they wanted to bully Ashleigh they pretend like they don’t act like the Ashleigh that is defining. These women sit there and act like they are hail marry, we all know what kind of people they are.
I don't think so, ashleigh views aren't logical we on a night out and you decide to leave without out telling your friendship group you should be able to communicate to your friendship that this is where I'm going for your safety and your friends won't have to spend their night looking for you that is called being mature. Yes, you can be independent, but at least use your common sense.
@@KBee752 this is true but the issue is the only person who critiqued that point was josh the rest fixated on calling her a “h*e” for 20 minutes and acted surprised when she was justifiably upset Ashleigh was 100% in the wrong for not putting safety measures in place when she goes off on her own but she’s not a “h*e” whatsoever and the girl who punched her shouldn’t be back on the show
@scyto1939 I definitely don't agree with them calling her hoe because that's her opinion. If I were her, I would get mad too, but loose would be a good term
@@KBee752 true u can also share ur location with each other. but i think they hated her for a long time because how r they calling her a hoe and then telling her to calm down. One of the girl said if u r triggered by us calling u a hoe then u must be one and I find that statement crazy because as a black person if multiple white people in a group call me monkey, I will react not because I am monkey but the meaning behind that name calling. Also, such a contradicting panel the men said when their friend get with a girl they will clap and celebrate but are t they also becoming a man-whore according to their standard. We live in a society that we uplift kim Kardashian’s and cardi B but when it comes to regular person acting out on night out we call them hoes. The three women except for cookie walking around thinking they are holier than thou 😂😅🫢
@@KBee752 true I agree u can maybe call her inconsiderate or bad friend but calling her a hoe that is way out of order. This is a debate how stale and boring would it be if everyone agreed with each other and u can tell one of the guys and cookie said I don’t believe she act like that but been a devils advocate and taking the debate to another level. Because the definition of hoe is completely different. It is debate and does not need to get personal. Because let’s face it, in this day an age how would u describe a hoe, the panel looks dysfunctional calling her fake for having fake boobs but no one use to say that to Easter and other people. Let’s be real they should just say they strongly dislike her because no one tried to calm her down rather gaslighted her.
Ashleigh is defo the pretty 1 in the room and what’s happening in this episode is exactly why girls don’t share everything they do. For the girl in the white dress to think she’s the pretty one is absolutely wild!
Behave mehn, Tosin (the one on the white dress) is beautiful
No liah is the prettiest one in the room
I think Liyah and the one in the glasses are the prettiest & then the girl next to liyah after
@@prettylittleliarsforever5902 nah liah has more facial harmony, it’s just her attitude bring it down, but it doesn’t take away from the facts she’s beautiful
@@prettylittleliarsforever5902 so ur telling me Ashley is prettier than liah in the face l, ur bugging