Europe’s Problem With The Roma
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- The Romani people have been a part of European culture for centuries - Charlie Chaplin and flamenco both have Romani origins. But this ethnic group (also known by more derogatory names like “gypsies”) has been discriminated against for hundreds of years, culminating in the death of hundreds of thousands of them in the Holocaust. And the Romani still face open bigotry today. We’re going to look at who the Roma people are and their ongoing fight for respect and survival.
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My mum is a teacher and had a Romani student that did really well at school, wanted to pursue higher education, but was shunned by his family and friends for that. It must be really difficult because if you stand out it's easy to feel like you don't belong anywhere. People must have shunned him in the dominant culture because he was Romani, and the Romani shunned him for following the "mainstream" ways. I can see why in such cases the easiest path is for the status quo to remain.
This. In my experience, the Romani people have a very strong "family culture". Any deviation from the norm is seen by the community as abhorrent, and i have hear the "deviants" being called "whities" by the family on couple occasions. This is even more emphasised by the views of many outsiders.
@@psychoboo955 Maybe that's because over the years Roma children have been taught that their culture is bad, their parents are bad, & punished for speaking their own language. Would you send your children to a school like that?
It's very hard to say to how many people this applies, but some younger Romani seem to be caught between a rock and a hard place" they want to integrate but aren't allowed because their parents experienced racism and/or simply just want to keep what they know but it sounds like a vicious circle. The old clan structures want to keep power and influence so they terrorise their own community and no one is helping them from the outside either. Plus racism of course. I don't know how this can be solved if no side wants to give any😔
@@zivkovicable she was describing a situation where that was not the case. Maybe it's time to face up to the fact that while racism exists and is bad it's not the only obstacle to integration but the clan elders want to keep their power and influence and terrorise their own communities into NOT changing ever, even if they might want to.
because beggin is easier
From what I gather, this hate is because people do not have good personal experiences with the romas. You can keep an open mind, but if you get robbed, scammed, thrown rocks at, trash your neighborhood every time you actually interact with them, then you'll develop your own perceptions due to that experience.
Exactly. There’s a very real reason there’s a “stigma” around these people. Personally, the Romani groups where I live in New England 100% CHOOSE to live travelling gypsy lifestyle because they’re on the move from those they recently scammed. Often running paving companies who will take 1/2 up front for jobs and never perform the work and split out of town. Scamming more as they go along.
@Mike Horvath 😂
Exactly. My only encounters with Romani people have been them trying to scam me (which has happened twice) or them begging outside the supermarket (although they are eligible to free education, healthcare, and social services, which they actively decline). I also have three friends who have had stuff stolen from them by Romanis. I do not have a single friend who has ever told me about a positive experience with Romanis. Their culture justifies stealing from non-Romanis, as Romanis are the only ones who truly matter, and they actively shun the majority population. Honestly, there's a reason why people in every country dislike them. Their culture is straight-up trash, immoral, and incompatible with modernity.
we indians also hate rohingyas. So its common dude don't worry. No body likes outsiders, especially if those outsiders are dirty, and wierd, and immorals/criminal minded and don't have basic sense. So does europe. So its definitely not racism. They cause problems to you.
@Mike Horvath we indians also hate rohingyas. So its common dude don't worry. No body likes outsiders, especially if those outsiders are dirty, and wierd, and immorals/criminal minded and don't have basic sense. So does europe. So its definitely not racism. They cause problems to you.
I’m not Romani, I’m Hmong, but their history is really similar to our history. Our people migrated around a lot because of persecution and annexation. Started in China and settled all over South East Asia. Most of our people died building The Great Wall and kept in slavery for a long time. Still no reparations to this day because they’re trying to erase our history. The only way one would know is story passed on down by their families.
Soon china will be in a position to give some reparations
Do you want reparations for something that never happened to you?
@@luisandrade2254 It doesn't have to be reparation, but acknowledgement and equal treatment alongside special help to improve own community is what only being needed, but of course it's hard to be given, right? They had existed alongside Asian-steppe origin Hungarian for around the same time, but not haven't being given citizenship at all? It's as ridiculous as never giving Polish citizenship to the Germanic people living in Prussia that is part of modern-day Poland just because they're not part of the bigger Western Slav family of ethnic.
@@nevereverever1521 why are you speaking Spanish to me????
@George Boehringer As I said, it's just a stupid deliberate malpractice culturally and bureaucratically by both the state & society, even descendant of SS officer still has right to get own citizenship despite what's their past generation had done, and along with it acknowledgement to exist and interact and served within own environment with other human being as equal by law.
Romani people are probably the only group of people where everyone I've met is either a scam artist or a criminal. It's insane
You seem to forget majority Roma blend into society and are not noticed you woudlent even know there Roma unless they tell you
@@popularentertainment7360>wouldnt notice even though they look like lighter indians
@@TheRealPsychoGeniusRevengeance not all some gypsies can look Arab Indian or even European most gypsies know look punjab or Lebanese no one would think of us as gypsies when they first meet us
Rohingyas: Allow us to introduce ourselves
@@popularentertainment7360 they wouldn't really be gypsys anymore. You have to be a scam artist when your entire cultre depends on scamming unsuspecting tourists in order to pay for your nomadic lifestyle.
Never ask a man his salary
A woman her age
Or a European their opinion on romani
Ask me and imma say i hate em
@@Pepe8696 don't care, didn't ask, plus you're European
@@owenlj6261 good for ya mate
@@owenlj6261
cry about it
@@Pepe8696same
"Nazis targeted Romani people for being supposedly racially inferior" - Nazis targeted everyone because of that same reason
Not true. Whites were not targeted because of that.
I mean they didn't target everyone they didn't target Dutch, Norwegians and Baltic Germans
Oh really, thank you for adding that information. We did not know that at all
@@comradepolarbear6920 Well apparently SickPrid3 didn't know
Funny how Romanis are real descendents of the actual Aryans which Nazis claim their superiority from. European colonial mentality at it's finest.
Situation from Serbia:
My sister had in her class a Roma girl, with great grades, who wanted to become a doctor. But her grandfather arranged her a marriage to a guy that 10 years older and lived in Austria. Her father could not stand to his father. She was 14.
Many Roma children are born at home. And these births are never reported, so they have no ID. And when these children have children of their own, they could not be reported as their mother did not have an ID. They could not travel, go to school, doctor. They do not exist. Some even do not know when or where they are born.
Problem is that if they want to join surrounding society, they are banished from Roma. But there is a fear that other would not accept them, so they become alone.
PS.
When I got to university I was so happy to see Roma-looking guy. But it turned out, it was a student from Bangladesh.
@Romanian patriot How should I call them?
@Romanian patriot ...says the guy who calls himself Romanian Patriot?
@Romanian patriot lol romania have nothing to do with roman empire either that's like the sultanate of rum claiming to be romans.
@@Me-yq1fl Actually, it is spelled Rrom. So it is Rroma people.
@@Mladjasmilic The spelling differs from dialects, and it is not that important given that it is mostly an oral language group
I had met them in Bosnia once. They tried to steal my camera. I hate them.
not all of us steal.
@@bovv07 but the culture says its okay to steal from non romani or gadjos, thats a fact
@@UnderwaterFishFilms our culture doesn’t say that, nobody in my family steals, and neither do i steal.
however some roma steal as way to survive not for fun, and not because of culture
@@bovv07 i dont really trust that tbh, they have nice cars and they still steal, they indocrinate their children to steal, go fool someone else
@bovv07 in greece during the quarantine they asked the government for money pretty much because they couldn't steal
My take on the whole situation with the Roma people as doctor working in a public hospital in Bulgaria, where a good amount of the patients are Romani is that a big problem for them is their clan structure. Almost all of the ones that are living in poverty belong to something like a clan run by a criminal boss( we call it a gypsy baron) who is responsible for the "well being" of his subjects - forbids them to be educated in order to keep the status quo, forces them to work criminal jobs like prostitution or begging and most importantly collects money from political parties during election and orders his people who to vote for - that's why this system is tolerated. I didn't see anything meaningful in this video how to integrate the Roma, just raising some awareness.
A good example for Roma people that broke off from this system in Bulgaria are the ones that joined religious sects, like seventh day Adventists. They are usually educated and don't live in poverty, so maybe that's one way.
Can they join the Islamic religion? Maybe they can get help from Muslims
@@abcxyz-cx4mr Some of the Roma people in Bulgaria is muslims.
From the knowledge I have, the situation is very similar in my home country of Sweden as well and very little efforts by our government has been done to help it even at one point considering banning begging.
@@funwithbell7207 They are not. They join every religion just as long as they get something but they dont belive in it. There is a reason why missioneries stopped going into the getos. The islamic autiries are still trying and suppusedly converted people but they are not convertable , they are opertunistic.
@@mowtow90 the ones that already have a mainstream religion (like Orthodox Christianity or Sunni Islam in Bulgaria) are not religious or I would say are more superstitious then religious. But there are a lot of Romani in community sects like Mormons and others and they are usually better educated and integrated. Maybe you are right that some have joined just for some material advantages, but I've also interacted with some genuine believers.
I was always friends with Roma since I was a child I had two best friends in my class we would spend everyday together then one of them disappeared. We later found out she was sold by her family to be married she was 9. My other best friend disappeared at 11 also sold to a man. As I grew up I witnessed so many disgusting things that the Roma did they would have so many children that the children themselves didn’t know their names bcs they never got named.
After my friends were sold I stayed away from Roma people in my city.
I know there are those who live normal lives and I respect them but those who still follow their traditions so closely they sell their own daughters as children disgust me and no matter what I can’t see past that.
Probably your best friend is going to sell his/her children and and it will keep happening throughout generations because it is normal for them. We as individuals can't solve these problems, it is more of a governmental problem, imho.
Heh, funny you should mention the "children didn't know their names because they never got one". There was a fairly large roma community where I grew up, and one of my best friends was one of them called Televisor. He got that name, because that's what his family wanted to have at the time. He has a brother called Doctor, and a sister called Money. Ironically, he's the only one that managed to get away from that environment, and build a solid base for his kids.
I mean your daughter getting married at 12 wasn't that big of a deal then, it was still an issue with forced marriage
Because they don't have a any work to earn .
@@mohammadalmuzayyan7147 It‘s clearly pedophilia and these people would’ve been shot if they tried this in the U.S.
There are 2 types of people
1.Those who hate Roma
2. Those who have never met Roma
then there's me, part of a family that has been repeatedly harassed by the Roma.
I have met dozens of Roma in Finland
i have plenty pf Roma friends, & i do business with Roma people on a daily basis. Treat people with respect & you get it back. Maybe they would treat you badly, but you are a racist so you deserve it.
@@zivkovicable true
I'm 2
The disgust isn't based on race; its behavior.
Agreed, my families encounter with them have been nothing but awful
Wrong again
@@xyeB No.
Yeah Yeah
Lol
and Behaviour is based on repression, segregation and frustratration on how people are treated. Look at how America used to view the Black community or how Europe viewed Jews. Integration will only heal this prejudice keeping people in a box only fortifies the box they have been put in.
I live in the UK and people forget that during WWII during while food was scarce and rationed it was Roma women that worked the fields for farmers to provide food.
As a foreigner in Spain... I had a horrible experience and interactions with Romani people. They thought they could bully and say anything to me just because I was a foreigner from a third world country.
sorry that happend to you
such irony lol
Little did they know that they were interacting with their fellow Indian after being seperated for thousand year😊
@@desitraveller4282 if I take your logic, then mongolids community are same. That includes Chinese, Japanese, Mongols, Koreans, Tatars and much more.
These guys are not related to Indians at any point. Not saying I am racist but they are not related. Just as Koreans, Japanese, Chinese or otherwise says they are not related despite coming from one single genepool that is now diverged
@@immortalwarrior2695 You're getting it all wrong. I'm not claiming it by myself,there are proper genealogy research and reports available about them.
They're indian from central indian state of Rajasthan,who are thought to have migrated to Europe after fleeing war in their native land.
People in Rajasthan are infamous for being nomadic. Even today there are communities like Banajaras scattered around India who roam from one place to another after stay at farm. Banajara literally means wanderer in Hindustani. Bhraman in Sanskrit means to roam.
If you interract with or watch videos of Romani people, their language at core is similar to Rajasthani language, tharo(your) mharo(mine). Their language is influenced by the locality or country they live in. For instance,romas living in eastern Europe have heavy influence of Slavic words in their language.
There's a dance form in Spain called flamenco, it's similar to indian classical dance called Kathak. Guess what even this dance form was introduced to Spain by the Gypsies otherwise known as Roma. I can go on and give you dozens of proofs of their indian origins.😄
This report falls into the cliché of presenting the discrimination of Gipsies as something completely inexplicable. It doesn't make the slightest attempt to explain why Gipsies are hated or disliked in so many places. Quite a few Roma have integrated and are now indistinguishable for 'payos' - as Gipsies call everyone else, in Spain. But Roma living in Gipsie-majority communities make terrible neighbours. They refuse to follow laws and common-sense rules; and are often ready to resort to violence if they are called-out. Plus many of them engage in drug traffic, robbery, extortion and similar low-profile crimes.
Do they build "houses" without permission on land that does not belong to them and the government refuses to kick them out there too?
Exactly like they never deserved to face the things they did in the past but it doesn't mean you can break the law and whine about racism when someone holds you accountable
My only contact with Romani was in Italy at a tourist spot. A mother---( or captain?) had a group of five children rush me. Their hands were in my pockets and my jacket ( I use a money belt when I travel). I had no idea what was happening, and I pushed them away hard enough to make one fall over. I screamed bloody hell at the woman, which I am able to do at an extremely high volume. And still they persisted.
I was in shock. I had never experienced anything remotely like it.
What on earth am I supposed to think?
Think how hungry these children must be
Hate breeds hate. It is the Europeans to be blamed on how they mistreated, marginalized, alienated them... And now expecting them to be humans.
@@causalityismygod2983 then they can go back to India
@@causalityismygod2983 They're not, though, ther are charity canteens in all these countries, and the Church and other organizations give food for free. THey're NOT hungry, and if you believe so, then you're stupid.
@@JoaoPaulo-ot4ez m
All I can say is I was a restaurant manager and every single time gypsies came in we had a problem. Not 1 or 2 times, but 16 for 16 100%. And it was the same thing every time, customize everything then complain that thats not what was on the menu, then eat 80% of the food then try to send it back and get a refund, then when I wouldn’t give it to them they would throw stuff on the floor and threaten my staff.
I work as a waiter in a hotel and 2 weeks ago two gypsies walked in and stole 100 Euros from me with a trick. This has happened TWICE so far in a span of 7 years, I work in hospitality 15 years now. Both times it happened it was the same trick, both times it was done by Gypsies. Call me racist all you want, next time I have a Roma walk in my waiters wallet is not leaving my pocket.
@GuitarIv69 what trick?
@@gnp1117 Two of them walked in to the bar, full restaurant, it was busy I was the only waiter and pretty stressed out. One of them ordered a whiskey, paid cash with a 100 Euros, I gave him the change back and had the bill he gave me under my wallet behind me behind the bar. He started asking all kind of questions and distracting me, the other guy snuck up behind my back behind the bar, snagged the 100 Euros from under my wallet and got out. The other dude at the bar said thank you, got out as well, I turn around and the money is gone. Happens very fast, those guys are professionals. Never let your wallet go out your hands, not even for one second!
Same, gypsies are the worst
I was a waiter for years and had similar experience. Very criminal culture.
Racial discrimination is not an American or European or African problem. It's an integrated human problem. When you have a large group that holds power and wealth you subjugate or put down those that are different because they see themselves as superior. I wouldn't be surprised if Neantrathals met a similar end when they met our ancestors.
No... its a White thing. You Europeans went around the world and pushed the narrative and value system be it in India, Americas, Australia, Middle East, Far East Asia or Africa. It was always white Europeans that pushed that value system on others. Its a WHITE problem and issue. These other people doing it are just cowards following the value system of those with the most power/influence.
They will they are having more deaths than births! it over for yts!!
It's not a problem, it's human nature.
@@siyacer >>> Mankind has committed many atrocities that could be argued to be human nature. Yet, we’ve become better as a species and improved our moral outlook.
@@itumo2645 don't bother him, he's just a stupid troll with no working brain.
I've interacted with Roma exactly six times that I know of, and in three different countries. All six encounters shared one unifying feature. Petty crime. In four interactions, the Roma stole or were stealing something from me or someone else. In two, they were actively scamming people. I don't like to generalize about any group based on the actions of such a small sample, but it's hard for me to see the Roma in any other way.
When tornadoes hit in Oklahoma that do a lot of damage, the Travelers/Gypsies often show up about two days later. Usually from North Carolina for some reason. They're here to scam people who need repairs done. They take advantage of those who need to get their home livable again. They take the deposit for materials, and run. In a bad tornado in 2013, they also came loaded with stolen furniture in a large mover truck, and sold off the back. The police became aware of them, and some were arrested. It is reprehensible for any group to do that in a crisis, but Gypsies seem to have no problem scamming the desperate.
If you had the parents and harsh upbringing they had you would be the same, as would all of us
@@TheTrainstation Nah mate, you're blaming other things for your problems. Nothing will change if someone doesn't accept responsibility.
@@Aadrian7 Roma are different from blacks. Blacks evolved during their stay in america. They were transformed from africans to african americans, a part of America. But Roma are not a part of any society. They are not kicked out mind you, they self segregate.
@@Aadrian7 Their behaviour is their choice. If they wish to be seen differently, then they need to behave differently. Until they figure that out, we owe them nothing.
In Lithuania we had a big problem were we were trying to integrate Roma people into our society, but it was hard for them to keep children in school, especially girls. And then without education the poverty circle kept going, so Roma people made a living selling drugs in their village outside of the city. A few years ago social housing was provided for Roma people in different parts of town to encourage integration into general society. I hope that with these measures they can integrate well and have the social support needed to keep children in schools. Last year we had a first Roma restaurant open in the capital and it’s doing pretty well.
Here they raid village farms
@@rastlonadjalin9455 I’m sorry they do what!?
@@rastlonadjalin9455 like Vikings
@@twomp5613 Raid and destroy farms, vinyatds and obout everything not in the village.
@@rastlonadjalin9455 wow wild
If they want romani racism to end they should behave like normal human beings
Behaving like a normal human being goes for you too. So start acting like a decent one
@@JonteKalin i will if you tell me what i did wrong
@@danielszabo2222 justifying racism and genocide against a people group and saying they're like animals makes you the animal here infact.
@@JonteKalin i never said i agree with genocide neither am i racist i have romani friends i am talking about the ones that live like animals look up Lunik IX
@@JonteKalin you defend gypsies until one of them steals your bike and wallet
As an Italian who has had a terrible experience with Romani people (mugged once, scammed, and threatened), I personally stopped giving a crap about the Romani.
I have tried being positive and kind to them, but something about their culture is absolutely atrocious. It's like even when I try being honest with them and try giving them a hand by giving fresh fruit or a bottle of water to them whenever I do encounter them in my local park, they just give me a weird look and sometimes tell me to leave. Ever since I got mugged by one of them for 11 lousy euros, I just stopped giving and stop caring for them.
You may think only a small percentage of people in Europe hate them and discriminate against them, but the truth is that almost every European absolutely openly despises them, including me now.
I understand you have negative feelings about certain people, what does that experience completely dictate entirety of the population? You don’t have to try to be nice, you don’t have to try to be anything, just treat your peers fairly
@@adrianghandtchi1562 I obviously know not all of them are like that, but I am not going to gabble my safety on hopes that one of them doesn't do that to me again.
They are also not my peers so why should I care? Until the Romani teach their own the values of honesty, hard work, and respect, they will never get out of the slums. To be completely honest, I think it's too late for them anyway and their reputation is beyond saving.
@@adrianghandtchi1562 well the rule is you never want to paint a people with the same brush. But like many rules, there’s are exceptions. I’ve been to England many times, never had one positive interaction with them, I have friends who have travelled across and live across Europe, not one positive, all negative. My friend had her watch snatched at a train station by a Gypsy woman, another friend of mine was stalked and harassed in Paris by a group of them, and other members of my family had their property damaged from them. They complain about how they are oppressed but they act in such an uncivilized and abhorrent manner that they don’t see how they are perpetuating the reasons people don’t like them. I mean one bad interaction is an instance, twice is a coincidence, five times is the expectation.
Il problema dei Rom è che hanno fatto dei piccoli furti e delle piccole truffe il loro stile di vita, parte integrante della loro cultura e molti attivamente manco vogliono integrarsi.
Nel loro caso non è uno stereotipo, è letteralmente una cultura di ladri in cui la brava gente sono la minoranza, e francamente a livello di comunità è anche colpa loro che non fanno nulla a riguardo. Un sacco di altre minoranze si sono riuscite a organizzare per avere successo o riscattare la loro posizione, guarda gli ebrei, i neri, africani, cinesi/giapponesi e mediorientali che spesso creano business e negozi e si integrano e si aiutano fra loro, i Rom che hanno anche il vantaggio di essere sul territorio da secoli non hanno mai costruito nessuna fondazione solida e si sono ostinati a rimanere un branco di ladruncoli con la scusa che non sono accettati. Nemmeno gli altri erano accettati, ma hanno comunque combinato qualcosa.
@@adrianghandtchi1562 You have never met a Roma, and you will never understand until you do. which I really hope you don't.
Im so tired of this "racism" word being thrown around when we talk about gypsies. Most of us are not racist, but living a lifetime around them made us learn to keep our pockets safe, because if you will be stolen from in Europe, it will be a gypsy 99.99% of times.
Im from Romania, where we have the biggest population of gypsies and life is not pleasant around them, to be fair. Im lucky to have a gypsy community in my village that is more civilized and got integrated well with the rest, but you still have your weekly fight and police visit. The thing only gets worse when you go to bigger towns and cities, pickpockets and scammers are everywhere, all gypsy.
You can also read comments from different countries like France or Germany, where many migrated from Romania after joining EU, the stories said there are not hood either. Most countries tried to integrate them, but is so hard when their culture is so full of anti-social behavior.
Yes completely agreed, my comment got deleted for some reason but basically 99.9% of people have only bad interactions with them
@@missmcphee8859 Well, they can delete all they want. Reality cannot be altered to their wishes. Or to their disconnected worldview.
The question is How is your English so good? Im amazed at comments here from all around Europe and even Roma people writing comments in such clear and correct grammar in English, yet many foreigners living in the UK for years still struggle to speak and write
Refreshingly candid post. Thank you. Cheers from California
for real and then we get called racist for calling them out on their behavior. I don't believe all Romani people are like this but every single one i've met was. How can you blame us for expecting the worst
My brother was in Romania. When he walked out of a bus a bunch of gypsies stole his money, they did this by throwing their infant at him so he had to catch it, then while he was holding their baby they stole the money from his pockets.
What the shit. They put all the points in creativity.
Wow hahaha
sad part is people are dumb enough to believe this
@@rocdonk9886 and no points in IQ
Honestly, this story sounds fabricated
As a 54 year old American my only experience with the Romany gypsies as they are called sometimes has been bad. They had caravans in my hometown when I was a little girl in the seventies and they refused to leave a man's private property and this happened many times. After a while the sheriff's department evicted them and ejected them from the property and escorted them to the county line. Once they reach the county line the so-called Romani people began throwing human feces at the officers. My other experience was cleaning hotel rooms about 25 years ago maybe 20 and probably the dirtiest person I've ever seen had me in a room for 3 hours cleaning until finally I got disgusted and walked out
In greece, during covid, a president or something of theirs asked the government for money pretty much, because they couldn't steal during the quarantine💀
Aww bless you Susan, and you decided to make these comments under a video that is documenting the monstrosities committed against these people for exactly what purpose?
@@TK-4044v exactly in slovenia its even worse in my region there is a gang of gypsies that basically commit crimes with Guns and arent punished because the police cant do anything because of the government that pays them a lot of money
@@TK-4044v its even worse in slovenia in a region where I live there is a gang of gypsies where they steal with Guns and the government give them a lot of money and they arent even puniished and they also thratend my frined who is 16 to give them money which he did and they were adults
I can say a thing or two about the Bulgarian Integration plan. Speaking from direct experience, it's not rooted in racism. It attempts to integrate Roma people in normal society by providing work opportunities, education and improving the standard of living. A lot of schools here are so low in students that the teachers literally go from door to door and beg Roma parents to send there children to school. Even the free abortion thing is done not to limit the number of Roma but because a lot of underage girls leave school when they become pregnant. There are also contraception and vaccination campaigns being done with the help of health mediators. Most of the time these mediators are Roma themselves.
Granted your average Bulgarian feels and says a bunch of racist things about the Roma people, but I can assure you the integration program is really trying to help these people improve their lives and become part of society. I don't believe it's succeeding much but it is trying.
There's similar misconceptions on both sides of black/white relations here in U.S. Few are willing to face the fact that its never really been about race or inferiority, its different cultures clashing into each other. Romas need to take notes on how self chosen separatism and victim mentality has helped U.S. blacks.
i think in a lot of parts of europe the main problem is many of the roma not wanting to integrate.
they are proud of their culture, as they should be.
unfortunately that culture includes some negative elements. i dont think its really their fault that their culture is like this, they had to adapt to survive in a largely hostile europe for hundreds of years.
generally what ive noticed is that they still see society around them as a sort of enemy that needs to be tricked and fought against for them to survive. so they have a very antagonistic attitude against the society around them.
its clearly a holdover from the genocides, discrimination and cleansings they have been subjected too, but youd hope in modern society that they could adapt to a much friendlier environment. (and i think a lot of them do, you dont hear much form them because they are "normal")
there just are some enclaves and a large nomad population that keeps passing on these toxic traditions to enough children to outweigh the larger integration effort and people are afraid to directly address these cultural/traditional problems in the roma community in fear of being called racist.
in all european countries there are immigrant groups that do a lot better and have only recently just arrived.
its not about race, its about culture. no one chooses their race, no one can change their race.
everyone has power in how their culture is expressed. people can adapt new cultures, they can integrate and learn. culture constantly changes.
some roma just refuse to let the toxic parts of their culture change.
the thing is, if the average Bulgarian is racist there's nothing stopping them from using this program as an eugenics tool.
Suspicions of state institutions by an oppressed minority can take generations to erase. During Nazi occupation of the Balkans, it was those Roma who had settled & had engaged with education & healthcare who were the first to be abducted up by the Nazis as those institutions had conveniently provided lists for them to use, & it was therefor easier to pick them up & send them to death camps with the help of Bulgarian collaborators. . To say there was no anti Roma prejudice in Bulgaria during communism's a joke. I'll give you an example that i have seen on many occasions with my own eyes....Two neighbouring villages, one Roma, the other ethnic Bulgarian. Guess who gets he paved road? Not the Gypsy's for sure. Guess who was labouring to build the road?..Gypsies. You yourself use prejudice language in your post by describing your lifestyle as "normal". implying the Roma lifestyle is abnormal. Forcing people to adapt to your culture is racism. You mention "free abortion"..The more accurate phrase is forced sterilisation. Under both the Nazis & Bulgarian Communist Party.
@@zivkovicable that is all true, but it's also the past. I just don't see the same thing today. And I do have relatives who work closely with Roma people. Both on actual jobs and with the government programs. There is nothing forced about contraception programs and free abortion. As a matter of fact it's so much the opposite of forced that in the end it's ineffective.
Well back in Portugal the gypsies had a lot of criminals, I was in service and one of our man was stabbed by a gypsie and ended badly for all of them when 2 trucks of paratroopers came to their camping site and beat the shit of everyone and burned everything. Not talking about when I was a teenager and had to fight a few during my time I lived in an area bordering a “bairro” of gypsies.
Today we have then coming from Romania pocket picking in Lisbon, Porto and Algarve. So no good memories from them and so far I don’t see them trying to integrate in our society.
Average snowflake liberal: "You're just ignorant, racist, entitled, prejudiced, etc"
Agreed
I thought I didn't judge people by their heritage, culture, religion, race, until I got to know the Roma people in various countries around Europe. Initially I was one of the people who got in to verbal arguments with people that "we should never judge any people because of their...." when I heard people talking ill of the Roma people which I didn't know of, but did eventually. Am sure there are good Roma people, but 99.9% of the Roma people I have come across has deeply depressed and upset me. How vulgar and uncultured (outside their culture, which is where they choose to live but not follow the law of the lands) they can be and how proud they are of it. The woman in the interview should point out how many social, education, labor programs there are in most European countries of which they just do not take advantage and how this leads to discrimination. Why does she not explain how the Roma people pass their children around to different mothers in different streets to beg to ultimately hand this money over to papa Roma guy? Give them more power? What? How about starting the change from the family unit and work the way out and up? Am sorry. But it's the truth from my experience.
Neat.
Now tell everyone how you feel about the other non-native people who live in Europe, refuse to integrate, exercise special rights, and claim special victim status . I think it rhymes with "shoes".
@@SuperCulverin This is why your parents stopped speaking to you
Exactly. You can't expect people to respect you if you constantly lie to them, cheat them and steal from them. The Roma need to change their ways if they wish to be respected, because the widespread lack of basic morals/ethics is really very disturbing.
@@SuperCulverin nice frog
@@SuperCulverin basiet und rotgepilled
They are not Europe, they come from India.
There indeed is a big stigma about them in Europe. The sad thing is that where I live (Paris, France), the only contact we have with them is through human trafficked children scamming and stealing not to be beaten up going back at their camp. Or beggars. There are scandals every year about dismantled traffics. So besides european racism they also are hard within the community.
Hmm I wouldn't say that those are the only contacts that ALL Parisians have with the Roma community, especially those of us that live closer to the peripheries but I get your point. I don't get how the sensationalized (yup I said it) "hardness" within the community compares to the widespread and uninhibited racisme that they face across Europe tho 🤔
@@abigailno6127 that sensational hardness acts as anti Romani propaganda dude. You have to dismantle the messaging first to make progress on racism
Paris is largely not White anymore, is it, and you're still going on about "racism"? Wake up.
Non c'est vrai, quand je pense aux romes je pense à tout ça. Et il y a des choses que l'on peut voir de nos propres yeux, qui ne sont pas un consensus médiatique ou du gouvernement.
Par exemple il y a des femmes qui font la manche avec des jeunes bébés qui dors et ne pleure jamais un peu comme s'ils étaient drogués... Essayez d'offrir un repas à un de ces enfants ou ces femmes en apparence seules et vous verrez qu'elles sont surveillés par une grosse voiture type Mercedes etc. (Vu de mes propres yeux) Donc là derrière il y a forcément un réseau. Les hommes ne sont pas aussi mals nourrits ou habillés que les femmes et enfants d'ailleurs.
Je pense qu'il y a des mariages arrangés et toutes ces choses qui sont pourtant interdites en France mais j'habite à Lille et il y a énormément de romes que ce soit en ville ou dans les villages. Les enfants volent, j'ai travaillé au mcdo de lille centre et il y a toujours 2enfant estimation : 8 et 12ans qui vont faire le tour des plateaux pour attraper tout ce qu'ils peuvent sous la justification de demander de la nourriture mais quand ils ont un téléphone ou porte monnaie ils se barrent en courant. Si la police arrive le plus grand souvent à l'extérieur pour guetter siffle sont frère afin de passer entre les mailles du filet. Et encore une fois ils montent dans une voiture neuve. C'est très bien rodé...
La police ne va jamais dans leurs camps ils en ont peur, la dernière fois que ça s'est fait il y a eu une fusillade, les roms ayant tirés pour les faire partir. Ils arrivent parfois à mettre la main sur des tonnes de drogue et ça passe dans les journaux et j'y crois parce que c'est dans le camp près de chez moi donc je ne suis plus étonné de rien à ce sujet.
Je suis en contact avec des associations de protection animale qui vont chercher des chiens maltraités ou négligés soit qui sont enchaînés à une caravane pour servir d'alarme mais jamais soigné et peu nourri, soit pour être vendu à la manche ou attendrir les gens par le fait que ce sont des chiens en très mauvais état, volontairement bien sûr pour que les gens s'apitoient sur leur sort...
Et je peux dire que les associations qui se déplacent la nuit pour ouvrir les cages des chiens ou enlever le collier d'un chien enchaîné sont très courageuses. Encore une fois la police a peur d'y aller donc n'y va qu'en cas de très gros problème.
J'en ai encore tellement à dire.
En tout cas sans tout ça, s'ils avaient envie de s'intégrer c'est à dire juste se plier à nos lois françaises, ça me paraît être un minimum, alors je serais prêt à laisser tomber mes à priori etc. Mais j'en doute, ils sont appris des le plus jeune âge et ça fait peur même un enfant de 4ans est susceptible de vous attendrir pour vous voler.
Méfiance sur un truc à la mode aussi:
Ceci est partout en France j'ai eu le coup à lille et aussi à Toulouse et d'autres mon dis l'avoir vécu à Bordeaux, paris etc, toutes les villes où il y a des touristes.
En ce moment il y a un truc qui tourne beaucoup chez eux dans les grandes villes c'est de cibler des touristes, ils te montrent un papier qui dis qu'ils sont sourds et qu'ils récoltent de l'argent pour une association de sourds tout en faisant mine de parler la langue des signes (très mal d'ailleurs). Ils demandent juste une signature mais au moment de signer il y a écrit"minimum de 10e." Et oui c'est un don qu'ils veulent et si vous ne voulez pas et que vous avez signer ils ne vous l'acherons pas, prêts à vous suivre etc.
Bien sûr ils ne sont pas sourds le but c'est de voir ce que vous avez dans le porte monnaie quand vous donnez de l'argent ou bien si votre sac dispose de quelque chose d'intéressant, si c'est le cas alors ils feront un signe discret à leurs collègues (ils fonctionnent TOUJOURS en groupe) et certains irons vous arracher votre sac ou glisser la main dedans dans une foule quelques rues plus loin.
Le problème c'est pas tant le vol mais on peut voir des disputes très violentes si la victime refuse de laisser partir son sac ou autre...
I really don't wanna be "that" guy but in my country in my neighbourhood there's a strong romani gypsy community and has sprawled quite alot, they probably make about 10% of my city population due to the high amount of kids they get, and i really wish i had good things to say about them, but i don't, i've spent my whole life in one way or another trying to avoid really the gypsies in my neighbourhood since i've moved here in 1998, i was 8 at the time and here's some stories i've heard of what romani people do and or have done here.
Romani teens couldnt go to school so they'd catch kids who they knew had rich parents, and pointed knifes at their chins asking for all the money they had in their pockets ( back then you could tell who the rich kids were if they had a cellphone ).
Romani women were loud and obnoxious in many service areas, they'd jump the line and half of them would be pregnant all the time and they would use the excuse of being 8 month pregnant to skip the lines.
Romani men are almoust never admitted to work in production lines or wharehouses even construction work, i've worked in similar places and according to my experience there they are rarely given a job because they arrive late, some days don't arrive at all, and always ask for more money and or more benefits.
Romani teens here were known for distributing drugs mostly weed at that time when it was still illegal in my country and they'd hand it over to their younger brothers to give it to older teens who came from middle income, many a times these young romani kids would sport knifes and threatened to stab other teens if they refused to buy it.
Romani men and sometimes women do a thing called parking help, in many non observable places by the police where people in my country have to park their cars in open dirt or muddy places, romanis are seen around patrolling the place, they guide drivers to places where they can park their car because it's available, then they ask for a small change, usually 1 euro, if we dont pay they'll scratch our car doors with something sharp like a key.
My sister owns a small business with her husband selling used car parts and doing mechanical work on cars, they have guard dogs like german sheppards and such, the romanis have a small tin house establishment on the other side of the woods, many a times they tried to jump over the sharp fence to grab car parts that are scattered from old cars, sometimes they stole radios still attached to cars that were meant to be sold to be crushed.
Romanis here made a living stealing from electrical power sources the copper inside, they found ways to rip through the rubber fabric of electrical wires just to steal the copper and sell it in various means, some of them even use clandestine websites mainly the dark web to acess the black market to sell copper they steal.
We've had multiple instances of small village settlements losing power due to romanis jumping over and cutting power supplies from houses and what not.
Romanis here account for most ATM theft and they always do it at night but only in small villages where police patrol isn't as strong.
No one in my country messes with romanis, they have a strong family bond, if a romani gets into a fight with a non romani, the entire romani family ( i'm not kidding ), grandparents, parents, uncles, brothers, sisters, cousins, second degree family members all join the fight and plot their revenge, if a court case is established between a romani and a non romani, all of their family will go to threaten the judge and supporters of the non romani in the case to win the case over to their favour, sometimes lines as long as over 100 romanis can be seen outside courthouses.
similarly when one of them get severely sick they also all go to the hospital to stay with them, this was particularly difficult for hospital staffs during covid because they continued the practice of mass invading hospitals to stay with their loved one.
the most common issue with romanis is the women and sometimes the men too abuse the social pension programs our government offers, because their lifestyle is soo bad and poor they find ways to hide most of their stolen riches and smear themselvs to look poorer as soon as social pension program entities go and investigate their living standarts, if they look bad enough they leave and let them continue have their special pension while they do nothing but resort to crime, and no finding work ( mostly because they don't want but also because they're discriminated in finding work themselvs but again that is also their own fault ).
They are also the most common ethnic minority of public unrest and theft in my country, they count for over 95% of all pickpockets specially to tourists.
In short, i really wish i could have good things to say about them, but i just don't unfortunently :\
bro, do you live in Portugal? Because this is exactly what happens in Lisbon with the gypsis!
@@franciscoricca8309 Yes I live in Aveiro XDDD
@@franciscoricca8309 From Lisbon to Lappeenranta the situation with them is laregely the same.
from dublin here, thanks for speaking the truth, in my exp it has been the same, they in general dont intergrate and expect a hand out , its the same with the traveler community . while there are no doubt good individuals in both communities , their lifestyle and culture enivitabke leads to negative results
@@emperorpaws8447 LOL portuguese unity I guess
I went to the Haunted Mansion in Disneyland, France one a while back. As we entered elevator room, a family of Romanis with about 12 or so childeren entered as well. As soon as the lights went out, I could feel all the children trying to get their hands in my pocket, while my fiance-now wife tried to fight off hands that were trying to get into her purse.
Even outside of Disneyland, I had a problem with people which look like Romanis bumping into us, trying to pick our pockets, or sending swarms of kids on us to get something.
You can see why people are on guard whenever Romanis are present. It's not racism, it's simply just pattern recognizing and reaction. People are conditioned to be wary of Romani presence, or get their stuff stolen. They're also not doing a very good job dispelling this image either.
You're a coward 😤
@@FootballJunky-r6h Coward of getting your belongings stolen? You're spewing some weird stuff. You can't exactly punch kids that are trying to rob you can you? Unless you're some sadistic pedo.
yeah if you don’t want your people to have a bad reputation you have to be a good representation if your people and act on your best behavior. You cant expect people to not be wary of Romas when they are constantly getting robbed.
For example, im black and I try to dress and act properly to not reflect badly on my people because I want to see our communities improve and dont want people to look down on us
I don't hate blacks im just on guard whenever a black person comes near my wallet
You can say that literally about any race. And btw it is racism
As an American As far as I know there’s only one family of Romani in my area. The dad pretends to be Mexican and plays the accordion while panhandling and the mom stands in a parking lot asking for money with her school age children with her to make people sympathetic, instead of sending them to school so they can live better lives. One time I witnessed the mom try to distract a shopkeeper while her daughter made a pass at some jewelry
Where do you live? Curious.
@@LifeOfTheParty323 they are all over the USA. They are big in the sf bay area, where they cheat lie and steal and cause so much disruption
Of course the American has to bring up parking lots. Stupid car-centric design is killing us. We need better public transport, walkability and cycling infrastructure.
@@crowmob-yo6ry Is that all you focused on?
@@crowmob-yo6ry L Take, get a life and learn how to drive.
Watching this as a Slovak, this video feels completely disconnected from reality. Sure, there are real racists among us, but I believe I'm speaking for most of us here that we are not racist, we just see how most of these people behave and we've learned how to behave accordingly. If 95% of people you've ever met from some community are vulgar, inadaptable and stinky people from a nearby ghetto and you've often seen them take drugs and always cause mess, it's perfectly normal to expect it from the next person of this community you meet too.
Of course, there are racist idiots who will meet a well-dressed, classy and clearly educated Romani person somewhere in a bank and they'll look down on him anyway but those are just an extremist minority of the population that won't be helped by watching videos like these.
I ve had pretty much the same experiences more or less with Romani people here in Romania and we do have a large minority of them (i think maybe 2 milion people, i m not very sure now). However I think that the state at least here doesn t exactely do enough to make them integrate, there are some efforts but not very good ones I d say. Social support is just eating away money for no reason if you dont make them understand why it s good to send their kids to school and have them have a better life that way. Self segregation became so ingrained into them that for them education seems pointless and so many other things as well
Their problems are almost entirely self-inflicted.
It is very unfair to accuse the rest of us of racism, when they are the bigest racists. They openly say very racist things just because they think no one understands their language. But when you understand what they are saying, you hear how it chronically pours out things that only Nazis and the like would say.
Try those same people who've learned to dress dapper and live in nice apartments, all provided by State money, and yet they still stoop to theft and robbery wherever they think they can get away with it.
That's actually how the stereotypical gypsies are spotted: they dress like they're middle-class people from the 1950s. It's the ones in jeans and T-shirts that don't cause as much overt trouble beyond what the host population usually would.
Lol exactly
agree
I live in Greece where there have been numerous attempts to integrate the Roma in society. In the primary school I went into, any other group (of which there were many, besides Greeks) had to find a way to get there, but for the Roma kids there where big state paid busses for just a couple of children, mainly girls. After Christmas holidays, these children magically disappeared from school and I later found out the government paid they parents to send them to school.
If my mom didn't send me and my brother to school, the child protected services will be called.
That's just an example to show how differently they have been treated by the government, giving them housing and funds, only for them to steal, sell drugs and mainly harass other people in the community, verbally of physical.
I always try to be empathetic and not fall for stereotypes but the cherry on top for me was the statement by the leader of the Roma community about the lockdown: "How are we supposed to steal now?"
-that's a real statement, look it up
@conquerorlalitaditya6550 it's OK, they're brothers now
@conquerorlalitaditya6550 I would not feel sorry for gypsies if they tried to provoke anyone or cause any problems tbh
integration is genocide. races should and must stay separated. deporting them to India would be better
@conquerorlalitaditya6550 I'm mostly using the Russian Alphabet. I'm not Russian but I am very Russophilic
@conquerorlalitaditya6550 I'm Americam but I do know this Armenian dude online
I live 100 meters away from the biggest population of Roma people in spain and I can tell you from my own experience that the Roma people can be very nice but you also need to look out with them. How much I see them pickpocket , intimitade people , fighting, throwing trash where ever they go etc. They do not allow any "White" spanish person in their circle unless you are from the goverment or NGO and you have something that helps them or is "free" etc. I have a good friend who is Roma and he is very succesful but he himself said that they are very close minded people and education is not the main priority in their culture. He tried once to have a "White" spanish girlfriend and told his mom and she said she can never be part of the family and better not to tell the rest. All in all not everything is done well by the goverment here at all regarding this ethnic group but the group itself needs to be willing to integrate as well.
Yeah but everyone just wants to sat "wyt ppl bad" and not face actual reality.
sounds like there the racists....
yeah, the african fare better than them on term of integrating to society. they have centuries to integrate, not decade or year
@@coldhands2802 thats becouse reality is way worse, like most of them get pulled aut of scool at 14 and that wrong doings that your parents teached you can take 10 years to even try to fix some of bad habbits
@@monke6912
Well that sounds like a them problem.... it's not our fault they don't value education and other societal norms...
Based on the comments here, they seem to deserve the hate.
the comments are pure racism, i’ve never stolen in my life, i’ve never destroyed anything, i’ve never did any wrong to people, theres bad and good in every ethnic, some of my people do good, and sadly some do bad, being racist isn’t okay, its still wrong, and u can’t justify it.
They deserve it they stole and killed people I knew
They live off of society and steal from people
@@Max25235why r u trying to justify racism, i dont have a criminal record and i dont want one, i always try do good not bad, and most of us do good, every ethnic does good and bad. ur racism isn’t justified.
@@bovv07 ok roma
Sadly it's the truth that Roma people get hated on because of the wrongdoings of many other Roma people. I am very happy that there are a lot of exceptions but still living in somewhat balkan areas the amount of crime roma people have commited is insane. I am all for them practicing their own culture,speaking their own language (I am not a nationalist after all) but it'd be a huge help if they stayed away from crime. You are an excellent example to all your people,pursue your dreams! @@bovv07
I’m a white dude and I had a great conversation with an old Pakistani Muslim man in a burger shop about a couple romani thief’s, it brought us together
Probably most Romani is thives here in Sweden we need to check the store all the time during summer when romani people moving around Sweden to steal.
In the village I grew up, there were like 70% roma people and 30% romanians. All i can say is that the roma people had never been discriminated or subjugated by romanians. Even in the school, there were many opportunities that favorized the roma people and defavorized romanians. For example, when going to high school, roma people had reserved places and the grades in the exam didn t even matter, but romanians had to hard learn.
Also, romanians in the village never discriminated the roma people. Instead, roma people were always blaming romanians for different reasons.
The roma children terrorized old romanian people, verbally abusing them and even destroying their gardens and fences.
And the roma people were throwing the trash in the street as a daily basic activity. I tried to explain to some of them that the place of the trash is in the dumbster, but they were laughing at me saying that i am a “fool”.
So, I just want to share my experiences with the roma people. I m not racis and never have been, i believe in the equality of races. At least in Romania, they are priviliged, not discriminated.
Whats the difference between roma and romanian?
@@5678sothourn romanian is of dacian decent, an old european race and romani are migratory tribes from punjabi india who came to europe 1000 years ago.
"In my village lost in the middle of bumfuck nowhere Roma people treat their oppressors in a bad way, that MUST mean that in all of this country Roma people are privileged!!!"
That's not how logic works.
@@5678sothourn we need to call them roma people because “gipsies” is considered offensive language
@@LOrco_ you know better than me, alright i can t counter you
This video is just telling one side of the stroy.
I've grown up in a working class neighberhood in Bulgaria with mixed Bulgarian and Gypsy population. I've grown up and played with gypsies.
By no way, shape or form I think gypsies are bad people or anything of the sort. A lot of them want a higher education and honest jobs, but also a lot of them:
- need to be forced by the government to send their kids to school and still don't;
- child brides;
- have build gypsy communities on land they never bought and are not paying any taxes for, and when the government wants to use the land IT OWNS the gypsy communities start calling it represion and are left alone with free land;
- those communities have horrible living conditions brought upon by the gypsies themselves by burning tires and throwing garbage not in dumps but just all around their own community;
- refuse to take jobs with official contracts, because they don't want to pay the taxes ( in all honesty a lot of Bulgarians do that );
- have huge numbers of kids without having any way of supporting them and then complain that the government should be giving them MORE free benefits because their children have nothing to eat. Those benefits by the way are payed by taxes,
- most gypsies have payed little to no taxes in their lives;
- there are cases where the government build apartment buildings and gave them for free to gypsies to live in, within a year or two the buildings were mostly torn apart by the gypsies for the free scrap, oh and kept farm animals within the buildings;
- most begger schemes, small theft/shoplifting and a large portion of prostitution is run by gypsy "lords",
- I know 2 guys that have physically attacked a gypsy, but I know literelly at least 10 that have been physycally attacked by gypsys, including multiple cases of sexual abuse. And if you get in an argument 1vs1 with a gypsy you can be sure the tomorrow 10-20 will be waiting for you, no matter your age or gender.
Again, gypsies ARE NOT BAD! And we DO need to find a way to help them have better lives and be a better contributing members of society. But it is hard to help someone who doesn't want to help themselves.
Same in Slovakia. It's easy to say that you should not be "racist" or prejudiced against them, but the two times someone attempted to broke into our house, it were gypsies. When you watch news, about half of them are gypsies. Many of them do want to get better life and education, however most of them don't. In my town there's a gypsy ghetto where they have horrible life(or look up Lunik 9) and you don't want to walk through there.
exactly like Muslims in India
@@cheemschandani5982 like Muslims in India? Please elaborate cause I can't see the connection.
"some people do this so that means they're all doing it, BUT IM NOT A RACIST GUYS" what a genius here.
@@Bread-nx9fo that is exactly the opposite of what I wrote. Tho whole thing basically says:
- there are "good" and "bad" gypsies (just like any other ethnic group ever). The problem being that the once that are having a negative impact in the community (including gypsy community) have absolutely no intention of changing their ways.
When I was a kid (in England), travellers moved into the local field behind our housing area. I can't recall if they were Irish travellers or Romani, but they pitched themselves on the land with their caravans. I always hung out with the kids in the local area and most of us have never encountered 'travellers' before. The first time we met with the kids from the travellers, one of the boys pulled out a knife on us for no apparent reason. From that point on, the negative view of travellers has stuck with me. They just move on to public land, leave tons of trash and shit everywhere and move on. The local council decided to dig trenches around the fields to prevent them from pitching on the land.
Funny thing is Romanis or Irish Travellers are usually the most integrated Gypsies in Europe. Like if you look at the Romanis in the UK and compare them to Bulgaria, Italy and such, you can see that the Romanis look like the normal white Briton, instead of the normal continental European Romani. This is because Romanis and native Britons have been mixing for a long time.
Sounds like Irish traveller's
I dont understand why people live a travelling life style in a place like europe like if its in the steppes or the deserts of arabia i understand but when its europe which isnt even that big and its mostly urbanised with no big open feilds or deserts why would they even live that life style
@@martinsanchez4827nope
irish? like the white trailer trash seen on tv documentaries that claim to be gypsies?
Unfortunately it takes two to tango and governments have given the Roma plenty of chances to participate in society but they seem to blow it too often. Students leaving school despite having good grades, houses given for free only to be trashed, jobs organised and turned down etc. If they don't want to help themselves then they can't complain.
Looks to me that they are learning how to play the race card.
What about involving the people, asking, what they want, talking to them, not about them? I'm soooo fed up with complains about Romani people not honoring the efforts of the main population. Not adjusting, not giving their own culture up to adjust.
Did you, the main culture not have times when you were afraid of losing your identity, your culture if you tolerate too much of foreign elements in your own culture? Imagine you are not the only one, especially with the experience of the Nazi camps, with the century old experience of being forcibly tried to adjust, harrased, wiped out.
Would you trust?
Thank God not all Romani families and tribes are like the one most described as an negative example. Most I know would die of shame if but a distant cousin would behave like that!!
@George Boehringer i dont know about that. Natives kn usa have all the rights to play a race card. Government owes them land and reparations for what they ddid to hem
@George Boehringer I think the problem is you’re just a racist. “Lower race” seriously?
@@kattodoggo3868 you dont get kindess by trowing hate, if you impress others that you are less of a human and trying to destroy society then dont be suprused when they start to peramently hate you, besides many people would kill themself yust to live in america and have higher education
While there is a lot of racism going towards the rroma community, to be fair, on the ground the situation is not so simple. Growing up and living all my life near one of the largest gypsy communities in Eastern Europe, Gârcini, in the Romanian county of Brașov, I can tell you from my own life-long experience that people that are part of the gypsy community are also the people that are most likely to exhibit anti-social behaviour. For starters, very often you see them playing loud music (manele in 99% of the times) on the bus, eating sun flower seeds and just littering the bus floor, throwing trash right out on the streets, and generally making a lot of mess. They also have a tendency to be violent, not rarely I've seen them randomly breaking things like street signs, benches, street recycle bins etc. Also, the two times I got beaten up in my 22 years of life, were by some members of a kinda-notorious gypsy family/clan, with whom I had absolutely no bussines with, they just came up to me and starting harassing me, then started beating me up without stealing anything from me. They just did it because they could... and I do know alot of similar cases.
While I am not racist, at all, I cannot deny the reality. I kind of understand why this kind of anti-social behavior is so often encountered in the rroma community. Due to centuries of oppression from white folks, they formed a culture around opposing what we normally see as 'civilization', maybe because they collectively associate it with said oppression, and the state is surely not helping at all. "Structural Racism" in the government institutioons certainly is a big thing here.
Generally speaking, society has started oppening up to them. While previous generations, like my father and uncles, were talking about the "gypsy issue" in the sense of how to get rid of them, we now *tend* to speak of the "gypsy issue" in the sense of finding a way to integrate them.
However, whilst you really see less racism from romanians, the rroma communty doesn't really reciprocate (at least where I live). They still keep their habbits of littering, being aggresive, and generally being "uncivilised".
I really hope that the future will bring better lives for these people, as they do live in abject poverty, however alot of them refuse the help when it comes to them...
I have similar experiences in Germany
I went to brasov in the dead of winter a few years ago. It was one of the most beautiful cities I ever visited. It was -25° when I was there haha. I also agree with what you said about the Romani, while not all Romani, I lived in a French city for a few years and had a romani man try to rob me for my phone with a knife. It made the stereotype stick even more for me
Similar experience in Spain. They are pathetic
Same in Ireland gypsie were having feuds with other gypsies so much so that a county's reputation is ruined
@@RemusBP ya we have alot of issues in germany with sinti & roma. its not being racist but they do not want to integrate probs because of their history, but to fit into a society you must behave and go with the laws of each country. that involves of not being noisy neighbors, recycling your trash, not throwing trash out of the windows and trying to get a grip on the language in the country. i even know some roma people which say a large majority are still uncivilized and dont want to work towards a better life. its sad but sadly the truth!
I'm from Europe, and I'll say that, whilst it's sad, stereotypes exist from a reason and they don't come from nowhere. We've had problems in the past with train cancellations on the main lines due to gypsies stealing the metal from the tracks and copper out of the wires. Gypsy camps are notorious as places of violence, and when they're out they're infamous for acting like complete arseholes for no reason - verbally abusing folks for no reason. They often pitch up in fields, on grass verges, and leave a huge mess, they have no respect for the land they're usually illegally camping on, and are a major headache for the farmer if they decide to use one of his fields, one of our Conservative MPs even called them "scum" in 2002 in regards to the nightmare they had caused his constituency.
About a decade ago, my country had a very low opinion of Romanians because Romanians were rare in our country back then, and the only exposure must of us had had to "Romanians" were violent gypsies from Romania who called themselves "Roma", leading many to assume all Romanians must be like that, fortunately more genuine Romanians have arrived since.
As a romanian, man does it piss me off when people automatically assume im a gypsy because of "romanian" and "romani" being so simillar in name. Although its only ever been over the internet because if you talked or even looked at a real ethnic romanian like myself in person, youd know instantly that obviously ethnic romanians are not gypsies. Skin color, hair color, and eye color, and height we do not share with gypsies
You are în big confusions..... romanians have NOTHING în comun with with rroma , romanians are not from India ,romanians don't have dark skin ,romanians have their country România not India, romanians speak latin language NOT hindi, etc
Also to see how stupid you are, romanians în ww2 was a Nazi nation aliat with Germany and toogheter they make pogrom agains rroma gipsy and jews
Stereotypes people call it...and forget the meaning of the word. Stereotype doesn't mean everybody, yes we know, but it certainly means most, aka on average. People say stereotypes as if to denounce it as a non fact, but stereotypes is fact. It exist out of an enmass observation and didn't come out of nowhere! You're 100% correct, and this video is full of sht.
@@achillesglacia7700Well, it is AJ+…
I'm not sure it's about racism. Back when I was a kid i remember my parents runned a shoes and clothings shop not far from a big and often empty parking area. There sometimes roma's groups stopped for a bit and then many of them could start to be seen around the village. Everytime a Roma entered my parents shop they had to keep an eye on them just to be sure nothing was going to be stolen, and every single time they caught them trying to leave the shop without paying. I'm not saying other customers never tried to steal, but not in the 100% of the cases. I must add: this is probably racism but I'm sure that if they payed for what they wanted my parents would have been 100% glad to have them around. To sum up their ideology "as long as it pays, customer is always right", so I'm not sure it's really about racism
I don’t think humans want to be called “it”
It ultimately boils down to why your parents kept a close eye on Romani customers and if they did the same or similar thing to non-Romani customers. Where I live non-Asians, especially black people are watched carefully in stores, but it’s 100% due to racism. Where I live it’s mostly Asian and they can’t stand non-Asians coming into their stores. Luckily think are changing, but it’s very slow.
@@tiahnarodriguez3809 that's why I said this is racists (i meant, a racists behaviour). My parents were definitely recists to a certain extent as they did the same with black and asian people. The difference Is that, even not trusting them, they rarely had to call police for the black and asian families coming to buy, while It was usual when talking about Romas.
In my area it wasn't usual to meet others than white people around, but as time runned even my parents got used to it, as they saw there were no reasons to not trust asians or africans. It wasn't the same with Romas.
@@Nikko1Brown well, sorry. Totally unintended. My english Is getting a Little rusty over time
Hi Alek, Nobody can deny that the Roma have issues. But what needs to happen is an acceptance by Europe that it has mistreated them for so long and some of the results of that, we are seeing right now... The feeling I get as an outsider is that they are being tolerated as it would not look good for Europe to overtly deprive them of basic rights.
“That white Europeans don’t have the moral responsibility to do something….” This is disingenuous, dishonest and false. Europe has given housing, education, and spent, and spent and spent. But can the EU force a Roma mother to read to her child? To pick up a mop and scrub her floor? What do the Roma actually want that has not been given?
For a culture with an emphasis on ritual cleanliness, they do seem to have a lot of refuse wherever they station.
@@Tounushi which culture are you referring to? The European or the Roma? It wasn’t clear for me by what you wrote.
@@victoriaskennedy Roma. In the local Kale, the cleanliness culture has meant that e.g. if anything falls on the sterilized kitchen floor, it ends up in the trash, regardless of what it was.
But the general practice seems to be that once something has become trash, it must be gotten rid of immediately and never touched again. Meaning you drop it and don't pick it up to put it in the trash bin, should an open one not be in immediate arm's reach.
@@Tounushi I personally don’t know much about that; I just know in general that Roma encampments are never clean.
People don't just hate Romani people for nothing. It's a reputation gained over generations. I don't have many experiences with Romanis and the ones that I do have are all negative (attempted pickpocketing, attempted beating)
They sound just like black people in America.
Exactly! It’s hard earned!!!
People hated Jews for genrations, until the unthinkable happend.
Bit of a generalization, no ?
Not really i have encountered many gypsys in my life and have never had a positive experience
Every Romani I’ve met in retail was one of the worst experiences of my life…
*were
@@luckluca8982no, was is actually the more fitting word in this case. "Were" would fit with something like "All of the Romani I've met in retail were some of the worst experiences in my life".
In retail? Where?
You are racist
I worked in a large retail store and we used to get store and police alerts when Gypsies would arrive in town. On one occasion a large group came into the store and created a huge distraction disturbance while another group tried breaking into the store's cash and safe room. They are notorious for scamming people, particularly the elderly, by collecting cash up front and then not completing roofing or driveway paving jobs. They milk and scam an area for a bit and then move on before police can arrest them.
It is a two-way problem. There are a lot of government programs in Europe for integration of the gypsies. But they fail as there is a deep mismatch with the culture of these people. The core problem is their clan based society structure. They stick with their own. In every East European city you can find one or several areas entirely populated by Roma. And it is not because they are forced to live there - it is what their culture is. On a very rare occasion you will see a gypsy family living out of these "gheto"s and the general rule is that these are doctors, teachers, engineers etc. Overall, people that made their choice to integrate themselves into the society.
In Bulgaria e.g. the social payments law has been changed with the single purpose to force the Romani parents to send kids to school at least to 8th grade. The condition of receiving child benefits was to have your children going to school. Plus part of the social support has been issued in products - cooking oil, flower, rice, pasta etc. simply due to the fact that many Roma families live on benefits and the cash they receive is either turned into alcohol, drugs, being gambled out or taken by the community "baron" because of loans.
Do not get me wrong - not all gypsies are like this. It all depends on what clan they belong.
Who are the good Roma/gypsies in Bulgaria? What clans do they belong to?
@@abcxyz-cx4mr the roma that work, go to school and dont commit crimes
Issue is there's no real problem with having a clan of people in modern society. You simply make money start a family business. Then start a conglomerate of family business and now you have a rich clan system. Find an area with available space and build clan housing and we'll there really isn't an excuse. The needs aren't really that diffrent then a cult. A cult needs there own compound and there own business etc.
So really it sounds more like they don't want to live within the rules at all. I mean if the romani people are really that "clan" based they have opportunities to have a large information network and even possible vertically operated business structure but no they just steal and live off social security.
I worked with someone once from Romania. She hated gypsies because they were vagrants who would steal from you if you didn't keep an eye on them.
In Sweden, we've had huge issues with Romani coming here specifically to beg for money. Usually during winter when the weather is harsh. One issue is them leaving behind a lot of trash and sometimes even destruction. They don't deserve discrimination, but the issue isn't black and white...
@@Ikajo Sweden is already fallen men you are losing your country slowly
It is about time something else takes over.
@@Ikajo they used to beg like that in romania, we just stopped giving them any money and in rural areas we offer them opportunities to work. Few stayed to work, most went to foreign countries to take advantage of people's kindness
we also hate them for giving us a bad image in foreign countries. In most places we do not have good opportunities, we go to foreign countries and we work hard. It's so hurtful to be confused with them when we do our best to integrate and work hard
The video fails to present the reasons of this discrimination towards gypsies. They are very often associated with crimes and they choose to remain outside the society. For example in Greece, there was a huge wave of immigrants coming from Albania during the 90's. While in the beginning they were met with discrimination eventually they were fully integrated into the Greek society. They went to school, they worked, they opened business etc. Gypsies on the other hand never tried to become part of the society.
And no one notices that lots of other small groups don't want to integrate either?
@@Seth9809 yeah but most of them dont accept stealing as norm and wont gang up on you
@@monke6912 you appereantly dont know what Albanian mafia is.
so Genocide of Romani people is justified because they have problems in their culture? wow
@@astralaurora4165 its hard to feel sorry for someone that is dangerus and will hurt you if it benifits them
They are hated all over the world!
No
I think their pretty cool
@@LolaShrimpYES
@@movie_enthusiast718
Imagine thinking being like racist sexist thieves who are hated across the world is cool....
Most of the people who I catch stealing from my business are Romani. They told me that they believe theft is ok. I almost lost my business because of them!
Wow so you're telling me theft is more frequent in poorer populations, wow give this man a nobel prize for this breakthrough.
@@nvizible ha! You must be a thief since you're protecting them. I hope something very expensive gets stolen from you so you understand the severity of this
ewww generalization (i do agree theft is bad but you did nlt need to generalize)
Did an experiment once, a gypsy asked me for money, said she has no job and no way to support her kids so i offered her some food, she took it and threw it away when she thought i do not see her. Worse, she just threw it on the ground, just like that, not in a trash can. In my opinion, the fact that they are discriminated is the normal and logical reaction. We, as humanity and as a civilization are evolving and growing and almost every culture in the world is growing accordingly but the roma people seem to want to live in medieval conditions. They are not poor, they just want to make us think that. Many adult gypsies like to flash their wealth so everybody can see what car they drive or what a big house they have and the gold they wear around their necks and the big pile of cash they have when going groceries shopping. All this while none of them have a job, nor pay any kind of taxes and all of them apply and get social aid from the state. Do you know why they have many children.....it's because the state gives them social aid for every child they have. They are discriminated because they deserve to be discriminated, they bring no value to the societies that they live in, no contribution of any kind, in fact precious resourcers are wasted on them in the hope they will better themselves but they just take everything and continue with their way of life. They do not want to tend school, they do not want to work, they just want to live their parasitic lives. At least this is how the situation is in Romania, and i am sure there are exceptions within the roma people whom have evolved past all that, but they are just a drop of water in a lake. Well done to those who managed to evolve past that medieval mindset and keep in mind that the main weapon to fight, reduce and eventually eliminate discrimination are all of you.
ah, man, it seems like you are romanian, i hate when British people think gypsyes are romanians, and also hate gypsyes, in spain is worse, they go in groups and if you are alone they ask you for money and if you refuse them they will steal some of your belongings.
Best thing for Europe is to just expel them.
The gypsies are just finessing this life😂!
That reminds me of the time, in California, when a homeless man was outside Burger King pleading, "I'm hungry, I'm hungry!", so I bought the man a hamburger and he threw it against the Burger King wall. I surmised that he wanted money for something else, probably cigarettes, cheap wine, or a fix.
What’s the solution then?
It's not possible to solve the problem of discrimination and persecution by only portraying them as victims. Those who are seen as "problematic" and criminal are those who live in parallel societies, with internal laws and norms which crashes with their surrounding society. Let's be honest, some Romani are stigmatized as thieves, beggars, scammers, squatters and as posing a hygienic health risk by what people experience. Unless they are willing to really take effective measures to combat those aspects of those parts of Romani culture, they will never lose their stigma of being problematic, and will never be regarded as fully citizens of their host countries. You can not demand that racism and discrimination should magically seize to exist, not without making any effort to weed out the troubling aspects of your culture. Like it or not, but as a species we're hardwired to discriminate and stereotype.
Great, now tell that to a group of African Americans without starting a riot.
Dumb take
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@@justonemori Don't compare African Americans to Romani lol
That does nothing. They will find other ways to discriminate.
They are not European
Like it or not we are now 😘
@@popularentertainment7360i would rather not be european.
@@bovv07 never said i want to be European myself 🫤
Not only, when I grew up, Roma used to be the ,,Aeternal citta", the almost 3 000 years old capital of Italy, former capital of the Latin Empire. Those peoples brought in the 14 - 17 centuries by the Ottoman Empire to mostly southern Europe were called Gypsies, Gitannes, Zingari, Gitanos, Ziegeunner. The main issue though is not how would anyone call them, where are they originally from, but their behaviour and their complicities !
@@victormarian7889 there behaviour will never change if they won’t assimilted it’s hard when everyone is denying them jobs
I find this video odd as it only focuses on just the roma community in Europe, when in fact they are found in many regions in Eurasia, including the middle east and Arabia, where they are treated like shit as well, AJ+ should be aware of this as its parent company is from that region
In South America too.
@Sanctus Paulus 1962 its actually a pro Qatari news network, they will shit talk the Iranians as well
@@martinrosemary5654 sure.....
Never knew that.
There are hardly any Gypsies in middle East except Iran
It is common that when we talk about the Roma, in Spain, where I live, racist comments and prejudices are part of the conversation. However, this mini documentary has overlooked something that happens in Spain and according to the comment section of this video, it also happens in other countries and that is that the Spanish government has been giving educational aid to this ethnic group for years to promote studies among them, however, the vast majority of them abandon their studies around the age of 14, especially women who are married and forced to maintain their virginity until marriage so as not to be a "disgrace to their family and their culture" . The lack of education means that they have to work in precarious jobs and many end up in the drug business, occupying other people's houses and stealing. And the truth is that people in general turn away from people who lead this kind of life, whether they are Roma or not, but the fact that most of them are in some way pressured to follow this kind of life for the sake of "following their culture and traditions", prevents greater harmony between this ethnic group and the rest of Spain. However, it is true that in recent years some Roma families have allowed their children to finish their secondary education and some even pursue university studies, unfortunately they are the 1% of their population and these are usually men, but I have had the pleasure to meet and become friends with some of them.
THIS HAPPENS ALL OVER EUROPE!!! STOP FEELING PITTY FOR THEM
I don’t often use the term “internalized misogyny,” but I don’t know any more fitting words to describe the way these women defend a culture that sees them only as baby-making machines.
That's most cultures, sadly
Perhaps they should see themselves as liberated women whose purpose is to serve capitalism having had the privilege of being forced to go to school where they learn how to be good workers who put capitalist production before human reproduction.
@@view1st😂. I take my house and bed and income that allows me to not need to beg or steal than be forced to birth 9 children and be too illiterate to read your comment thanks.
@@view1st shut up, commie
@@view1st soo true
Every gypsy I’ve ever met in my life has asked me for money
most of us get denied for jobs.
@@bovv07wonder why
@@bugger45 should we both have a think about it or should i just say it? people are racist and love to dig into the stereotypes
@@bugger45why?
@@bovv07false. You get money from the government and your culture is abysmal
The gypsy problem, at least here in the Balkans, is that the governments do/did try a lot of times to integrate the societies into the country's society (by offering apartments for free, help in education, including giving free points for university enrollment) and ultimately failed in it. However this whole process has a lot of problems and rabbit holes that it's not really simple. Many births aren't reported and hence the children don't "exist" and hence don't have the paperwork/ID/health insurance. There is a large stigma towards Roma who try to educate themselves and very often get no support from their family and because of that you can't really educated a Roma child if it "doesn't exist" and their parents don't WANT the child educated. The parent in this situation decides if their kid will go to school or not even though it is punishable by law if you don't give your child elementary education, however, you can't punish someone who doesn't exist.
Society doesn't even help the situation either, with a decent minority, many of Roma are decent and educated members of society, however a vast majority doesn't even integrate. They tend to do criminal activity like theft (money, metals, they also tend to illegally connect to electricity, water, sewage etc) and drug dealing BUT also they don't integrate well with society, they tend to be very filthy, they tend to cause unrest in apartment buildings, they also beg and most people don't have a high opinion of them because of all this negative experience from a majority of a community.
Aside of that, many Roma who cause issues can't be apprehended by the police because they are "endangered like Polar bears" and have no identification.
The whole issue with Roma is very complex and warries from region to region in Europe.
I agree that it varies but the shared narrative of all roma poeple in europe is endless discrimination for a milennia. There are a lot examples from history, the word gyspy itself denotes someone untouchable and was first used by the byzantines and then the rest of europe. I mean they were barred from entering most cities and it was traditionary to do reserved jobs like kalaidzhis(literally means tinsmith in turkish) and it was not like you could choose otherwise. Entire populations were enslaved like in romania etc. In my opinion it is only understandable that the roma does not trust the state institutions or the respective ''local'' populations that the countries they live in are named after therefore don't even bother registering their children into the system which proved the be fatal for some in the past by the way. I am from Turkey and here we have similar issues surrounding the roma community and the situation is absolutely not ideal yet I would say we probably do not have any roma citizens of turkish descent(there are roma communites migration from other couentries like romania, moldova and bulgaria and they are out of the system for sure) that have not been registered or not in the school system and to be honest romani here are nationalistic as much as any other turk and definetely share at least a feeling of belonging to the country with the rest of the population. It seems like it is not the case for some romani in the balkans. I think the reason beyond that might be related to the war period experienced by the romani in the balkans since it was definetely a disasterous period for them which rightfully might have altered their communal perception of shared identity with the rest of the nation. Also I am not sure if religion might have played a role in the exaggeration of this problem in the balkans since most roma are muslims in the eastern balkans at least and they face double discrimination most of the time which is not the case for turkey's roma community. A comparision between roma communites in the balkans and turkey makes sense because we are essentially talking about the same subgroup of roma people that had a shared history under ottoman rule for at least half a milennia and then was seperated under rule of relatively small nation states and Turkey which have a lot in common but are also quite different in some respects.
No offense but that doesn’t sound complicated at all. If they are criminals then arrest them and jail them. If they don’t send their kids to school then send their parents to jail. Offer ways to integrate etc. simple really
Nah man, it’s thousands of Romas in lets say little ghettos. it’s impossible to jail those communities, same as US ghettos.
@@jamessmith4455 when you arrest all of them you simply don't have the jail space
@@MyILoveMinecraft make more jails and less excuses
Great video, but you left out the parts where NUMEROUS nations have had programs to integrate their Romani populations, the partial successes and the numerous failures. Before moving to Europe I had nothing but open mindedness towards the Romani. Having lived here for a while, I have little patience left.
Mind sharing your experiences that resulted in having "little patience"? Not criticizing you by the way, I'm genuinely curious as I do not live in Europe, nor have ever even visited the continent before.
@@spirit9871 I’m curious too like what made you lose patience?
As an Italian, aware of the problem with them, I must say the same, I hate this sort of propaganda where it's always the bad racist western country to be blamed, no mention for the responsibility of the gypsies. Certainly there is discrimination towards them, which doesn't help, but it is vastly justified.
People from outside Europe talk like that because never they had to live near a gypsy camp.
Yes dude… at least you understand now.
It’s easy to look from the distance and make judgments based on those media tycoon opinions who live behind the protective walls and never step a foot on regular streets where common man has to go to work and gets he’s stuff stolen.
Easy to say for the aristocrats coz in many ways… many of them are a complete parasites too… but in the more classy way, so they don’t annoy us the same way.
@@marcodessena649 i live in Germany and i can kinda agree. I have met good Romas and bad but when you walk into neighborhoods where a lot of them live, you will immediately know.
Its beyond economic factors, its what they do. When I was an Intern at a police department we had roma gangs coming directly from europe to where we were specifically to steal things from department stores. How that makes sense monetarily, the price for tickets, housing, cost of living since they cant work on those visas etc to steal earbuds and android tablets was beyond me. When we asked one of them why they were willing to travel all this way to steal $200 worth of stuff she said "this is what I do". Then when I started traveling every country I went to it was a roma running a scam. soliciting donations for fake charities, money exchange scams, ticket scams, every scam you can think of ran by them, in every city. Does every roma steal? no, but an unbelievably large amount of them do.
Well Einstein, this is what is called 'systemic racism'. When you do not allow equal opportunities to a group of people over generations, they have 2 options. Either make it work somehow or die starving.
Stereo type does come from something. We can find the scamming culture in India up to these days.
@@jonpaul3868 Since you know a lot about stereotyping, please explain why Germans are stereotyped as aggressive?
@@electricuniverse5186 because they are. Or at least in the eyes and ears of the English people. Because you speak English, your stereotype comes from the perception of the English people staring off the Germans that always try to take over Europe.
@@electricuniverse5186 Ww2. Language is intimidating.
Romani are Indian origin hindu people who had to leave country due to Islamic invasions around 800 to 1000 years ago. They are primarily from Sindh, Gujarat and Rajasthan regions of India. Thats why they are also known as Sinti(distortion of Sindhi). Islamic invasions on India started on Sindh region by Muhammad Bin Qasim.
Don’t fall for this propaganda. If you’ve never had experience or dealt with gypsies or roma don’t bother forming an opinion from this.
How about I was the target of pick pocket twice by roma teenagers in Brussels?
@@spektrumB One of the million reasons why this video is irrelevant.
So now u gonna imply that the holocaust part was also propaganda. Say like "except the holocaust" some woke American bout to slander you. I can predict that.
Your name is lawrence, how about you have some experience with some flavoring to your food mayo man
Stop crying mate 👍
You haven't live close to them. With some exceptions, most of them are really, and I mean really really problematic. 99% of people would sell their house and run far away if some Romani family would ever move next to them.
They really are a nightmare. My young cousin was bullied by a nasty pair who pressured him into allsorts. This particular day they were taking him to a stolen car for him to drive to another city, the car crashed and he died going through the windscreen - the pair carried his lifeless body and placed it into the drivers seat before running away! Thankfully blood on the airbag confirmed the driver and he recieved 9 years in jail.
fr these people treat you horribly. We aren't racist we're just telling the truth.
@@AngloSupremeThat's horrible im sorry for your loss
@@user-bb2mq2zx3v thanks. We were only a few months apart in age so were very close.
I meet a guy who was in the Spanish military a few years ago. He compared them to locusts and felt Europe would be better off if they were wiped out. He said in Spain that a majority of their criminals were gypsies. I had thought they were a myth before talking to this guy at length. He was actually my calculus tutor before you call him a dumb racist (might have been the latter).
My fiancee who works at a major theme park in florida has noted that gypses or "Roma" will frequently come in and use their children to help steal things and will make everyone's lives miserable around them.
Unpopular views and experiences...
Sincerly I don't think Spain has their roma so bad ,they are way more integrated than balkan roma
Yes he was a racist and worst kind
@@kelseyks4230 has the Roma so talking like we're a disease
They're basically black people of Europe. No wonder AJ+ would tell you they're backwards because of white supremacy. Some demographics are not as good as others.
@@kelseyks4230 don't touch our Cigans...Balkans are Balkans no matter the race, religion or language.
Yasha!
The hate against the romani is well deserved. I mean if you are universally hated in europe, a place less than a century ago was hell bent on killing each other, you've earned and deserve the reputation.
Oh great, now I feel so much safer in Europe with your comment... If the EU had to depend on people like you, I would be killed by now
@empty She is a gypsy... she can only blame her fellow Romas.
This video is all about how the world treats Roma people. What about how the Roma interacts with the rest of the world? This video is very one-sided view. Roma people have been persecuted through out the ages but there are many cultural values held by this community that has also caused this problem. The Roma view the rest of the world differently from them - they have a rigid views that prevent their integration with the other western communities. Roma people themselves have to do more to ensure that the stereotypes associated with their communitiy is removed - they must not resort to theiving and believe in the value of hard work. You just have to see the documentaries across the youtube platform to understand why the stereotypes have stuck with the Roma.
This is similar to what fascist scum say about Jews and Black people. It’s like a combination of the racist stereotypes against both “they don’t integrate” “they steal” when you boil entire ethnic groups down to this you strip them of their humanity, and provide a shield for discriminatory policies that brand people criminals from birth, when one is branded by society as a crime from birth, it forces people into situations where they would be more likely to commit or even just be accused of a crime they didn’t commit, it prevents them from integrating, it robs them of opportunity, and it even robs people of life all together. You are a racist, and you need to change, it’s never too late to change, instead of perpetuating harm to the Roma people, stand with them. It’s so plain to me as a rural southerner, it’s scary how the discrimination against Roma is so similar to the discrimination against minorities where I live, and hardly anyone knows about it.
Right…have you ever considered maybe the Romani people view the rest of the world differently from them because of how the rest of the world has seen them & treated them throughout the years? They’re gonna have their guard up. Leave them alone, they’ve done nothing wrong to deserve this disgusting treatment
@@andreastagnimorisi1841 lies! You’re just stereotyping them
@@paigecrossland4289 Theres a reason why people view them that way, every lie has a little bit of truth in it. Many cause problems and we wont leave them alone as long as they are causing these problems
@@paigecrossland4289 I suggest you do some research on the Roma communities across the world. You will see that they have very strongly held beliefs about foreigners I.e. anyone outside the Roma community - the even have a word for that. Even their lifestyle is defined by such values. There are members within the Roma who have successfully Integra with the western world but such people are viewed with disdain within the Roma.
I travel quite a bit and it’s very unfortunate. The only Roma people I’ve met were either trying to rob me or scam me. I was forced to defend myself on two occasions. I caught a ten year old girl picking my pocket in Naples. I gave her all the cash I had on me, it made me
So profoundly sad, I am in the corner of every downtrodden people, and I hate the racism, they face. And I’m in favor of what ever it takes to get any group out of poverty but you have to meet mainstream society half way.
Why did you gave her cash? You just encouraged her to try it with other tourists.
thank you for understanding that their situation is what causes bad behavior, not their race. If everyone had that point of view so many issues related to racism could be solved
@@sk8forlife782 it’s their f-ing culture that causes it…
@@sk8forlife782 lmao bye they not victims they like to rob people so i don’t feel bad for them
Its not their race its their culture
I'm 40 years old and only last year was the first time I ever saw a Romani person working a regular job,as a cashier at a supermarket.
Not surprising
Management better check that till.
@@turgidbanana what’s wrong with you? how many generations are you going to carry those prejudices
🍌 swastika spotted
@@stanleyj9839 lol what are you talking about. The question is: Whats wrong with the gypsys :D
I am Romani/Roma. One historical thing people may find interesting is that centuries ago when Roma people and tribes started arriving in Europe the Europeans mistook them as Egyptians due to the physical apearance...thus coining the word Gypsy in all it's forms.... depending on the language...Gitanos...Zingari...Cigani...Tzigani...Gitanes...etc. They were wrong then and are wrong now. Names of our many different tribes original names go back to India...Roma....Sinti...Domari...Lom.....Zargari just to name a few.
In english they say roma but isn't Rom the real name? this is what they told me
@@alessandroturchiarelli7419 Rom is singular...Roma is plural....Romani is both noun and adjective to describe something
@@piroskaracz3621 wow nice very interesting i only knew about rom, bc in rome(im italian) we dont say roma people bc it is very confusing so the romans are the people of rome and the rom are the romani
@@alessandroturchiarelli7419 yes I can see how it's confusing
@@alessandroturchiarelli7419 It's Dohm.
I went to school with some Romani and it wasn't pleasant to say the least. Most of them didn't really care about hygiene or education, but the biggest problem was their aggression towards us. The boys would constantly mock, tease and assault us whether it was verbally or physicaly. I have a younger sister and I'm concerned about hor going to school with such kids which is, I think, understandable. I don't want to say that they are mostly bad people, there are regions where they are polite, clean and well educated, but those who aren't should become somehow. The thing I also want to point out is that they have a bit more rights than the natives since they are considered a minority and most government bodies won't even interact with them so they have the freedom to cause harm to society. I'm not a specialist nor a professional in the field of social engineering but I think that they should be socialized a bit and introduced to our coulture since I believe that there is a clash between their culture and ours. Don't take the comment as hateful or negative, it's just reality, but I'm always open for debate.
That's very typical of them
@@riyadougla539 they are almost in every single country around the globe, so where would you realistically expel them? That would just cause more harm to other nations. Maybe the solution to this problem is to put in more time and effort into them so that they become working members of society like everyone else.
@@andrejbrlek2034 that has been tried many times and it didn't work. A lot of them or maybe even most of them refuse to work even when they have the opportunity.
@@riyadougla539 That'll just make those countries worse. Expel them to the US.
@@riyadougla539 nah keep them there dont bring them here
01:45 12 million Gypsies=12 million problems
12 million of gods people you cursed polluted gadzo your the biggest problem go to another planet and take your devilish society with you
@@popularentertainment7360 12 million thieves
It’s not a totally undeserved stigmata. They are not stigmatised because they like to travel and are lovely people, they are stigmatised because they often live a stereotype life and bring stereotype problems with them. When a group don’t live by the rules of the majority of citizen, no matter where they come from, they will get rejected. That’s not racist, that’s human behavior.
That's racist
@@nihadabdulhameed7365 have you lived near a traveler community before?
Human nature. Amirite?
@@nihadabdulhameed7365 Or not.
@@nihadabdulhameed7365 Not wanting people who create problems in your country is racist? You're an ignorant r3tard lmao
A thousand years and still haven't been able to assimilate normal society, that sounds more like a problem with their culture. If you never have the desire to better yourself through education and hard work, if you don't teach your children to have respect for the laws, then you can expect "marginalized". That holds true for any culture.
The racism with Roma people is not your usual case of racism. The hate towards them was not created without any reason, all that stigma exists because once it was probably very true and it remains partially true through out the time. There is a deep cultural distrust towards them. If you get in front of one of the classic example of Roma men in the streets or he bumps into you, chances are that you will be robbed. Paradoxically that distrust is what makes these cases more true, since they grow in a environment that believe that they are lets say all thiefs, majority of them are going to become one, but you also can't just stop having that fear of them because then you are going to become a target as well. What im saying is this can only be resolved through time, a lot of generations needs to pass, centuries. If they want to be accepted, they will have to change their culture, lose their identity, become more similar to the natives. Multiculturalism doesnt work.
"It's only okay when we do it, it's not the same!"
You do realize racism against blacks in the US is also often taken out of context? Racism is taken out of context in a lot of places in the world, Europe isn't special that way.
@@101jir Im not saying its ok, im saying that distrust towards them exists for a reason. Distrust towards black did not exist for any rational reason, you guys literally brought them to your land and said they are less than you. We did not do that, they lived among us and they proved not to be a good fit culturally and so there is that "hate".
@@lazar2949 You are presuming that, thousands of years ago, they literally brought this on themselves? Simply for not being native? That is starting to sound racist. You'd have a hard time proving they did anything to deserve that persecution so long ago, simply for not being native.
That's the problem with focusing too much on the past: you don't leave enough room for the changes of the present, or for the future.
In the US, rural and suburban people by and large _expect_ to be shot if they physically attack a police officer or try to drive away. Not so in the inner city. Note that I said inner city. Due to racism of the 50s and 60s*, inner cities are often overwhelmingly black, while suburbs are often overwhelmingly white. Rural areas depend more on region.
The issues with the inner city vs rural and suburbs only appear on the surface to be about race because it does not account for the overwhelming difference in upbringing and location, which does result in a difference in behavior. White people that grow up in the inner city find themselves in very much the same predicament as black people from the inner city, but because they are less common they are easy to write off. Black people that don't have as strong of connections to the inner city are often very much opposed to BLM. BLM benefits in multiple ways, however, by making it about race, especially if they are receiving support from gangs (as they almost certainly are).
My point is: Based on your statement, I can tell you know little about race relations in the US outside of the popular narrative. If I, as an American, simply used the popular narrative of Europeans and the Romani to form my opinion, wouldn't you be irritated? There's a point to butting out sometimes. I know my knowledge of the Romani is limited. Accept your limitations, as a European, about race relations in America. All too many Europeans act like they know more than we do about our problems. Don't be one of them.
*correction: 50s and 60s was what I meant to say the first time, typed 60s and 70s by mistake.
America is the most multicultural nation in history, as well as the most powerful nation in history.
Multiculturalism works, you're just too racist to see it
@@101jir shit brother, so what now? As you explain it, it seems that racism is not that unjustified actually. I don't believe american brain can produce a wrongthink this bad. You should visit your local reeducation center.
If they stopped acting like stereotypes, the stereotypes would stop...
Sadly, I don't think that's true
@tealover1836 The stereotypes would long outlive any changes in lifestyle they would make. The words "Roma" and "Gypsy" have been vilified for hundreds of years. Do you really think if they changed their behavior to suit your taste, they would suddenly be viewed and treated better?
Stereotypes are preconceived ideas and simplistic images that have a negative influence on the way we see people, interact with them and treat them. In other words, stereotypes impose limitations on the people they target, assign them roles that are not necessarily suited to them and make it harder for them to be their true selves.
A lot of strangers who don t even live in europe talking in empathic way shit
Live with them in your country and you ll see how ,,lovely,, they are
We know better
Well said and so true.
This reminds me of Europeans lecturing Americans about how things are here and why we should do things differently. I sympathize.
majority of Europeans doesnt give a s*it abou US so wtf u are talking about@@alanlight7740
The only exposure to the Roma, certainly here in the UK is what the Roma themselves have shown us . Most of it negative.
They're not Europeans. They originate from India and have since migrated westwards.
I not roma but your word proving they get bad discrimination..
@@mamat9823 Your English is exceptionally bad, where are you from?
During their 700 years here, they became Europeans, many say...... They are no longer genetically Indian
I found it interesting that I learned from the comments more than I did from the video, I'm not from Europe and I always hear people talking about gypsies, I was curious to learn about them and came across this video.
There is no doubt that Gypsies have been oppressed in the past. But today, the problems are largely self-inflicted, perhaps not everywhere. They are a clan culture, and clan cultures always perform poorly in modern societies. They do not try to integrate, and actively isolate themselves. They are extremely racist and speak very badly of others, because they think no one understands what they are saying.
It is far from all Gypsies who are the problem. But they have so many individuals (percentage) who misbehave that their bad reputation is not unjustified.
There are other minorities who perform well, so the problem is not racism or outsiders.
So the past is something that can be erased with a click of a finger in one generation with no lasting consequences? Say a recent past with living memory where 50% of your community were tortured, starved the gassed to death, & all their possessions stolen. Has that happened to your community? If not you are speaking from a position of deep & hateful ignorance.
@@zivkovicable Nobody says it's easy. The road to success always consists of hard work and not everyone succeeds. But if you do not try, you will not succeed. And it is your children who get the fruit of your labor, not you.
@@niklasmolen4753 So everything you achieved was down to your own hard work & brilliance, & you would have got to the same level if you were let's say brought up in a shack with no electricity, running water next to a toxic rubbish dump, & sent to a "special " school, or classified as educational sub normal because your first language is Romani?
I think you are naive & privileged. You have no idea.
If you Europeans have treated them well, it would have never happened
@@mskclasses8496 why european didn't treat them well? they are so backward even by 1900 standart
I think in our society a person that behaves normal and integrates itself in the society has no problem. The problem I personally have is with the ones that are doing the opposite and live in a parallel society that does not respect our rules.
If you would live in Hungary you would understand why they are hated so much. I try to be positive towards them and not judge but its hard after many of the conflicts I had was 95% times was with gypsies
I live in Hungary as well, every Hungarian knows what we feel.
I’m from the us and I’ve met some Romani people even have a friend of that descent but his family is awful
Those aren't Europeans
Yes they are Europeans. They just didn't cause that much destruction and death as many other Europeans. If their biggest sins are lying and engaging in petty crime, then they are angles compared to many other European nations that enslaved others, looted foreign countries and commited genocides and so on.
Whoever wrote this has never interacted with gypsies.
word.
Start internally first, please. I was gang-beaten, threatened, robbed, and bullied by gypsies and that's just in my childhood. I never did anything wrong towards them.
wdym by internally?
@@TankEngine75 I think he meant analyzing each country’s realities when it comes to the Roma. Internally as in inside each country
@@TankEngine75 internally as the internal problems of the Roma community. There are many..
Internal problems in the community amplified by outside problems for the community
@@astralaurora4165 ah yes, forcing them in schools and giving them money and housing to integrate… such problems.
Yeah, they have tried to rip me off 2 times in Europe and one time in México, it's really really difficult to see them with trust when they don't integrate to the countries they are living. Some are changing their way of thinking but when they don't want to change, that's a problem.
Theres gangs of Roma men women and children in London whose only work is scamming people. They can get jobs in the UK just like everyone else, but they dont, they'd rather scam working people. They're predators not victims.
@@hooch87 and making themselves victims because of their history, pure bollocks.
In Mexico? Where? I don't buy that.
@@DiscoSamurai Leon, Gto. There are roma communities in some areas of the country, this ones in particular tried to steal my car while I was working nearby their "camp".
@@DiscoSamuraithere are very small gypsy communities in LatAm, but they are few and far between
They came to the European continent several centuries ago and never became integrated into any European countries, they've never been willing to. If all the native Europeans think the same about them, there must be a well-grounded reason for that, the responsability can't rest on the whites just because they are assumed to be racist. The responsability also rests on the gypsies themselves and their behaviors in the societies with which they co-exist. The woke classic perspective imported to Europe and aloof from the real European experiences and perspectives.
It has nothing to do with race. Ethnically they are Indian, nobody has a serious problem with Indians. Europe has many Indian expats. It's the culture that's the problem.
@@JeffKay-wu8jd No they're not.
@@sanserof7they used to be Indian. In my country we have both and they are visibly differently physically.
@rotshepherd3817 spending many centuries in Europe has lightened their complexion
This train of thought is the same reason why the holocaust happened. I thought tribalism wasn’t a thing in Europe.
When I was a teenager in Lithuania, I had a gypsy friend he was 70 years old or so, from Ukraine. He started steeling in his young life and spend his whole life in prison. We used to fish and smoke together. Good times.
of course you'd say that rabbi. Trying to undermine the goyim again, are we?
@@matthewchitcarof5692 goyim? oh, cattle. Why don't they just say it... always playing corners.
I'm not surprised a yid and a gypsie get along. You're two tails of the same dirty cloth.
Oh, lookie, antisemiticism & xenophobia, all in one post.
@@cheryldeboissiere1851 Ohh no, we will surely listen to your opinion and those scary words, Mommy please help!
The reason that these "stereotypes" exist in the first place is because half the time, they're true. Because they often didn't settle down, the romani could steal without severe repercussions. Historically, it was the best way for them to live given their limited capacity to create things of value outside of entertainment. However, in modern times there still exists a large number of Romani clans that act in this manner despite not needing to, possesing the capacity to settle down or achieve higher education in skilled trades or university. The reason this change doesn't happen is largely due to the cultural stigmas that the Romani place upon themselves, shunning other members of the group for going against the grain of the culture.
They love their culture. It seems like other have an issue with their culture. They don’t have to assimilate if they don’t want to. Other groups may be jealous that they want to hold onto their cultures and traditions. All that leads to discrimination against them.
@@peacehappyb237 I don't think people are jealous of someone who's entire income is based on fake begging and pickpocketing in the countries they refuse to settle in for the past 1k years
People say stereotypes are rooted in true. I disagree. They are very loosely rooted in true. Some of it may be true, but it is usually a very small percetenge of it. However, it also must be noticed the stereotypes about Romani people has always been the same, and far from getting better, it seems to be getting worst and worst. It is also worth noticing that this steroeytpes does not come from foreighn coutnries and cultures that have limited and biased knowledge about them, but from the poeple who has to coexist with them whether they like it or not. And worst is, it is an obserbable truth. Their community is problematic, and there's jsut no way around it.
@@goodaimshield1115 ever been to easten Europe before and more specifically the balkans? If not come for a visit and you'll see for yourself
My daughter lived in Portugal for a while and she said that she and her friends were constantly approached by gypsies trying to steal or con them. I know for sure that no race is better or inferior than other but culturally there are negative traits that every race has and until we don’t acknowledge that and try to educate the underprivileged, we are gonna keep having racism.
The whole point of the video is to address why that is, haven't you been listening? I also experienced blatant racism in Germany, does that make Germany as a whole racist?
Most people these days (at least in the US) don't care what race someone is. However, everyone cares about strangers showing up in town and stuff going missing, people getting conned, etc.
As you mentioned, a group of drifters cannot expect to be "accepted" if that's how they're going to conduct themselves. There's nothing racist about it, it's about acceptable behavior.
@@vertigo2894 the whole point of the video was to blame the government and the majorities for the poverty and discrimination of Romani. While that is totally wrong, they should also acknowledge that they as a community also have a problem. We are immigrant minorities living in the US and it hasn’t been easy, things haven’t been handed down to us and it’s ok with me. We have worked hard, we haven’t encountered anything from anybody to stop us from getting ahead except for our own limitations, mainly language and education. Nevertheless I can say that we are doing more than ok. Our children are college educated and I know firsthand that it’s possible to overcome socioeconomic limitations.
@@rosamancuso2740 So , if people are actually treated exactly the way he said they are treated(cause they are, they most certainly are) coupled with laws that actually targeted them and prevented them from even buying land, it means we shouldn't address it? You will accuse us of just blaming governments? We can't have conversation?
1)Not every community is the same, or suffers the same things, in the same way, at the same times to the same degrees. There are many factors to consider. Roma shouldn't even be called immigrants, they have been there too long and have suffered for a very very very long time. D
This America style glasses and moronic oversimplified politics about "handouts" is irritating. Did I tell you we should issue handouts? This ridiculous American style one size fits all nonsense is very annoying.
@@vertigo2894 we should call right what is right and wrong what is wrong. It doesn’t have anything to do where are you coming from or what you are. I am not accusing all gypsies of being thief or criminals but it’s a problem in the Roma communities that needs to be addressed, you can’t just blame others. I myself come from a minority that has a lot of the same problems. I don’t want to be part of the problem and it has nothing to do with the “moronic, over simplistic” American view. I am not even American born, but it’s about being better than your circumstances and breaking the molds in which one in born.
We always say they’re discriminated against and never ask why they’re discriminated against
And you never ask why we act a certain way towards you 😉
The thing about stereotypes is that they are largely true
They are
Especially about gypsies
Yes, they are always based on truth.
im a Mailman in Switzeland, one day i saw a White van with Irish plates parked up in my small town, its pretty unusual, then i noticed 3-4 Romas going all over the place door to door, they were trying to scam elderly people in the town to buy new roof guttering installations probably marked up 3-4 times what they are worth. Now having grown up in NZ my english is on par with theirs so i ask them where they're from, the oldest one immediately got hostile, as ive clearly interupted them in their money making scheme. i called the cops which eventually had them move along, apparently they had already done so from several other towns. Theyre not hated because theyre Romas, theyre hated because they really do just bring trouble and petty crime with them wherever they go
They are called "Irish Travellers" in Europe and the US. They tend to make a living through grifting, scams, etc.
I'm a Rudar on my mother's side from România, which is supposedly a subset of the Roma people, although the exact origins of the Rudars(or in English Boyash) aren't entirely clear. Despite supposedly being related to the gypsies, we don't speak romani, we don't play the same kind of music, and we don't commit crimes. Instead, we mostly work, we do carpentry and masonry. My grandfather used to do carpentry on the side when he wasn't working on the railroads. Outside of some of the dress, there is almost nothing in common between us and the gypsies, in fact the latter mostly hate us, yet we're still called romani. The idea that there's no such thing as a gypsy lifestyle, that being a gypsy is an ethnicity identical to being a roma, is a lie. There is no one, single romani culture, every single tribe is different. The Romanian roma are different from the Hungarian roma, who both have almost nothing in common with the Spanish and Welsh roma. There is no sense of fraternity or solidarity between "us," if you go to România you'll see big palaces built by gypsies who've made their money primarily off of drug and human trafficking(50% of victims from Eastern Europe, I believe are gypsy girls) right next door to a family of gypsies who live with about the same standard of living as people did in the 18th century, and live off of begging and petty thievery. The idea that integrating more gypsies is a destructive and racist process, or that somehow a huge amount of culture will be lost, is absurd. The gypsies are not all roma, and we are not all one culture.
@Romanian patriot Not all gypsies are Romanians and not all romanians are gypsies, but some gypsies are Romanians and vice versa.
Wtf are you talking about gypsys make up 4 percent of Romanian population ROMANIANS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH GYPSYS ROMANIANS ARE DACIAN, GYPSYS ARE FROM INDIA your a fake wannabe gypsy from the looks of it your very disrespectful for this comment
@Romanian patriot
Romanians are Latinised Romas.
@Romanian patriot
Well they didn't came to Europe 200 yrs ago but they came about a thousand years ago to be honest. Two looks quite similar also, there was indeed alot of mixing in all these years.
@@AliKhan-pb8cd romanians are white european people who speak latin language not dark skinned from India who speak hindi's language... we have nothing in common with rroma people: origin, history, religion, color skin, culture, language, NOTHING
At least 90% of the stereotypes are indeed true, sorry, it just is.
Stay delu
95%
Behaving like a normal human being goes for you too. So start acting like a decent one
It’s sad but I have had two experiences with Roma and they were really negative so it’s hard for me to get over it. I also don’t know any other Roma so in my mentality it’s hard to see it as isolated incidents. I always have know that they were stereotyped and unfortunately the experiences I had only reenforced those stereotypes. The history of oppression does explain some concerns to an extent and the circle of poverty but in some ways still doesn’t justify if a group continues to use that as an excuse for how they treat other people.
That is what it is, an excuse and nothing more. They behave and act the way they do is because they can get away with it. They like to be marginalized because for them it's a sense of privacy. There is a similar community in India.
if you have negative experiences with other races, do you assume they are all like that?
@@musingtimes same with African-Americans except they dont get away with it by breaking laws, but by dividing the general population
we indians also hate rohingyas. So its common dude don't worry. No body likes outsiders, especially if those outsiders are dirty, and wierd, and immorals/criminal minded and don't have basic sense. So does europe. So its definitely not racism. They cause problems to you.
That terrible that you want to stereotype a whole group of people.
Tbh, no one likes people who don't have the intention of taking responsibility for their situation.. then making a false statement of value contribution and requesting social standing.
I was really moved while watching that movie. Plus my wallet dissapeared.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO