Spoiler alert: I don't think gaming was to blame for this case... That is probably why I felt so compelled to cover it. How perspective has changed over the years...
I agree, it's deeper then that, defently some darker issues in the mind of this individual, as in all that do things to hurt, harm or the other unthinkable n disturbing acts.. .thank you for your stories, doing a nice job, hope to see many new stories to come. Hope you n your family Stay safe and healthy during our crazy times..😊blessings
Video games don't cause violence. It's the addiction (to anything) that can cause people to do crazy things. That said, millions of people suffer from addiction -- nothing justifies what Daniel did.
Actually there's a proven double study that shows it desensitizes children to violence.... and dampens their capacity for compassion and empathy. It was very sad to see the examples within the study and it makes sense why the military like to recruit kids that enjoy first person shooters l.
This kid didn't kill and shoot his father because he was in an altered state, believing he was a living version of the game. He shot his family, because he didn't get what he wanted. Simple. He killed, hurt, plotted, and stole for the pure fact he wanted something and his Dad said, "No."
As a teen in the 80's I had my fair share of arguments with my parents over heavy metal music. Today I am 53 years old, still listen to heavy metal and still love my parents endlessly.
I’m so glad my mom was flexible with my music choices… I’m sure listening to deathcore when you don’t like it isn’t very fun. It’d be like my children blasting that BroCountry… I’d slowly start going insane. 😂
The fact that Daniel actually tried to stage the murder scene to appear like a murder-suicide & was ready to kill his sister & husband, shows that this was not just some psychological reaction to being banned from playing a video game. Even asking them to close their eyes shows he had a moment to contemplate what he was about to do & change his mind.
@@kingjoe3rd I believe he was sorry for the consequences he received. He didn't want his father or family to hate him after the fact, because he likely would have no real connection in his life. For a cold blooded, double-murder attempt, with immediate lying/blame casting to his father (he justified this so easily and quickly because 1. his father denied him a thing he wanted and 2. the murders were his dad's fault because he said no to him), he got off really light. I don't think he deserved forgiveness, but maybe his mom would've thought differently.
Speaking from my own experiences, after playing The Legend of Zelda from a very young age, it has led me to a life full of breaking pots and vases in the hopes of finding large gem stones.
I remember my dad banned my sister and I from playing The Sims because we kept locking them in a room with couches and fireplaces 😂 he thought we were psychopaths. Video games don't cause violence. RIP Sue ❤
I went thru that "I hate my parents. I'm so edgy" phase when I was a teen. Never did i ever think to harm them.. Music, video games, movies etc... didn't turn me into that. He's a monster
Same. I never hated my parents but I went through the edgelord stuff. I thought I was smarter than them just because I decided to become an atheist, listened to screamo, played tons of violent video games from CoD to Dragon Age, read very grim books… and never in my life have I even gotten in a fight. My mom and I, may she rest in peace, had our fair share of arguments, but never once in my life could I fathom the idea of putting a hand on her. I still play video games nearly daily as a man with a career.
As a man who's been playing video games since I was 6 or so, I can confidently say I've never thought about brutally murdering my parents with my dads gun and then try to blame it on him.
Video games before were different. And we did grow up in more normal environment. While nowadays kids don't know how grass outside looks. Engaged daily into phones/apps/games. It's not just about playing a game nowadays - it's bigger social problem where borders to what's ok or not are destroyed. Also now definition of a "game" distorted. Many things are called a "game" while carrying violent content for entertainment with sold purpose to kill isn't gaming nor should be considered a game. And lastly - not all are you. Especially nowadays kids with fragile mental state.
I know it's not the games .I been playing since I was 4 . My 2nd video game was Resident evil .I played every horror and violent game before I was a teen. The most violent thought I ever had was beating up the school bully. Lol never had a murderous thought in my life
When the whole "Are video games evil?" discussion came up, my mom made an interesting point. When she was young, parents were freaking out about the Beatles. "Oh, they're satanic. If you let your kids listen to them, they'll wind up in a cult!" The parents were overreacting to something they neither understood nor appreciated. She loved the Beatles, and she turned out fine. Maybe video games were in the same boat.
Sorry no, bad comparison. Addictive online games are basically made for your brain to get hooked on them and to trick your brains reward and accomplishment circuits, thats how this guy can play 18 hours a day, because the game tricks his brain into feelings of accomplishments. It stresses the brain in a negative way that beatles music does not, noone would listen to Beatles 18 hours a day, its just meant as inspiration not brainwashing
@@leob4403 it would be a bad comparison if that was what was being compared. However it’s the thoughts the judge had regarding video games that is being compared to how people thought about the Beatles.
@@shaedric5733 music doesnt make you into a nervous wreck forced to sit infront of a monitor until you slowly go insane. It doesnt trick your brain into thinking you are accomplishing real tasks in life. Did you ever hear anyone that stopped their life dead in their tracks because they had to sit at home and listen to Beatles 18 hours a day? Its a bad comparison period
While I was being diagnosed with autism, I explained to my psychologist that World of Warcraft was one of my many hobbies and that it was routinely criticised by a lot of people in my life - my psychologist at the time, she took time to listen and helped me see that there are many unseen benefits such as making friends, solving puzzles, challenging yourself to read - gaming, particularly in WoW, has been a great benefit to who I am today. I no longer play, but the concept of fantasy gaming gave me so many skills that I utilise today as an individual with a bachelor's degree in education.
Yeah!! Oddly enough playing Skyrim has helped me irl with problem solving, timing and other things! Glad you found a special interest that helped you Jason 🤘🏾
@@harrypottah8889Skyrim helped me a lot too! Especially with the English language as a kid (me being Swedish). It also helped me with some social skills. + Inigo
This boy does not deserve to walk free, this is typical behaviour for a psychopath: most people assume that there was no way he was in his right mind because there was no way he could get away with it, however in his mind, with his grandiose sense of self thought he could frame his father. There was something he wanted and he ruthlessly tried to that.
psychopaths don't feel guilt or that it's wrong. he isnt a pyscho. maybe a sociopath, but I'm not a psychologist. but it doesn't take a doctorates to look up the traits. he missed his mom and knew it was wrong
@@Sputterbug you have that backwards,sociopaths are the ones that dont feel guilt or remorse. psycopaths are the emotional,impulse driven poeple. i honestly dont think hes either,i simply think hes an entitled brat who couldnt handle his father putting his foot down so he decided to try and shut him up for good...thats alll that was a big violent vengeance driven temper-tantrum.
public school system turning your kids into heathens and that's the bottom line...schools raise your kids unless your rich and know better than to send your kids to the satanic synagogue aka school...they don't teach you how to learn they teach you what to learn,indoctrinate you with absolute garbage...tv,schools have turned this country to a land of heathens..JESUS CHRIST IS TRUTH...
you are absolutely right .. video games today are like drugs fo young people addictive and made so by the designers... look how tiktok take childrens avereness from reality...
as a psychologist you have walls full of indoctrination certificates and it did you no good...your so far off your analysis of daniel...uuummmm addiction...gtfoh...you will never know any real truth because you think you already know it...I'm a country boy in the backwoods of Alabama and I laugh at your education...I've forgot more than you will ever know...
I could never forgive a sibling for killing my mother, nearly my father, and wanted me dead too. All the surgeries, physical therapy, PTSD, grief over losing his wife, slipping into a coma nearly dying himself, and still he forgave is unbelievable. It's scary how Daniel will walk free in 7 yrs. If he can do that to his family then he's capable of anything.
Maybe now he’ll learn how to be a good parent 😂 the parents are the cause of this because they created the kid and raised the kid and couldn’t give the kid a positive outlet besides video games. Sucks
I mean the guy was probably like severely fucking mentally ill. I don't get comments like these. We act and assume as if everyone is in standard functioning to our own. I've had severe mental problems of my own that were exacerbated by physical health conditions that affected my brain function. Everyone took any bad incidents or mistakes I've made over the years and treats me like I'm a fully capable, ordinary human being that should take blame for his actions, but like, I have a mountain of fucking shit that infected my brain. I did research to realize that I had like 7 fucking mental disorders that I didn't even realize that I had (well not that bad but it was intense). People don't realize how severe mental health can be and how much it can contribute to shit. Chances are you don't know enough to understand the specific circumstances of the killer or what went on inside the person's head or what was potentially wrong with them. I'm dead sick of these comments that talk about how disgusting or unforgivable many criminals are when it's like, you don't even know the circumstance of most of these fucking people and you're operating off of an archetype that exists in your head. Everyone thinks of killers or other pathological criminals like some kind of cartoon character bad guy. Sometime it's not that simple. When we talk about people and their mistakes, it's like a very very complex world that exists. Child molesters, for instance. Very quickly villainized category. But did you know that peoploe with pedophilia have altered nervous systems and there's a boatload of psychological confusion that goes on in their brain? Like they are warped to sometimes think that the victim wants it and its a thing where they're fucking crazy. It's not as simple as "evil guy does X". When your brain is fucked, you do stupid shit. Anyone that is willing to make comments like this, I recommend they pick up college-level textbooks in psychological disorders and other things that are related to psychology. You'd be surprised how much more complicated it can really be.
Depends on the context. I too would feel bad if I stepped on bug unintentionally, but I have no sympathy for slapping the absolute shit out of that mosquito attacking my exposed skin while I sleep.
I never fell bad for smashing a spider, but I start to get paranoid. Like, what if that spider has a family? Now they want justice for me smashing their don. Next thing I know the whole spider mafia is waiting for me at my door.
I mean the guy probably had some kind of mental disorder or something. You never know. It's very easy to just say someone's "bad" but like, I'm a guy who has a mental illness and I've studied mental illness. Even people that are sex offenders who commits crimes against kids, they often are reaped with something wrong with their mind and a sense of internal confusion. It's not as simple and cut and dry as we make these things. There's some people that are cold-blooded but a lot of things that can happen. Sometimes there can be things just insanely insanely wrong with people that stretches beyond the common person's ability to understand. I think this kind of pop culture thinking about responsibility and other things, that you read in youtube comments or hear from conservative-leaning people in real life, it ignores the larger picture of everything that can possibly be wrong with a person's mind where they just do something stupid because of distorted perception and thinking. The actual reality of what can happen with many people who are dysfunctional and can make serious mistakes, it's quite sad. Me, I've even had physical health compllciations for years and its affected to my brain to where I've been more vengeful and cold and standoffish as a person, on top of mental shit. You think it's as easy as "someone is bad", which is what many people have told me for my mistakes, but it's not always as simple as that. I'm not saying cold-blooded people can't exist. But I recommend that everyone who makes these talking points about "responsibility" or "blame" or shits on criminals or whatever, they pick up some college textbooks on mental disorders and mental health and understand all the convoluted shit that actually goes on.
@@MrCosmin94 weird kid on UA-cam complaining about forgiveness of all things in the video. Took the one wholesome thing and complained about it. Imagine.
Even before video games, we went out and played games that involved "shooting and killing" bad guys. Our friends would play dead then pop back up. No one confused the playing of these games with real life bad guys and shooting.
Exactly - and the hundreds of millions of people who play video games (I am not one of them I don't like them) are not running around killing other people in a delusional fog.
Because playing like that doesn't have realistic blood spatter or other realistic violence. We knew it was pretend when we used finger guns or even squirt guns/cap guns.
It's different when it comes to VIRTUAL REALITY which AFFECTS BRAIN directly. That's why it is malicious. You should know difference between playing irl and on computer. Especially for nowadays youth that foesnt know how grass outside looks..
I explained to a friend the difference between violence in video games and what happens in real life. No sane person can confuse real humans with AI that comes at you even when you shoot it with multiple bullets over and over. There’s something almost comical about video game violence that never translates to actual human murder.
Yeah the whole 'video games made me do it' is as bollocks as 'god/devil made me do it' or 'music' - billions of people do ALL those things and don't hurt people. If he'd had no video games there would have been another 'reason' - and it was more likely it was because he didn't get his own way.
My parents always took the approach of "monitor and educate" rather than "ban." (I was born in 1989). I feel like being given an outlet, whether through games, heavy music, martial arts, does so much more for mental health than being denied and sheltered. Imagine feeling trapped, possible resentment for your parents for denying you something that all of your friends have (maybe even like an outcast because you're more sheltered than others) while you're a teenager. You're already existing in a hormonal minefield. Couple that with some mental instability and...yeah
You got it right, that was my very first thought. This kid was probably blocked from a lot because of his dad's religious fervor, and then for a year he was even more trapped within the home while his spine healed. Not saying the kid was justified of course, just that I can see why he might "abruptly" snap.
I disagree. This young man had hatred early on and the game may have been the incentive that he needed to commit the crime. His father knows better than I but the son was of an age to know better. The son is in a better place.
@@bjbrown Incentive, as in the game it self, or the game play? I hope I said that right. I can see the game it self but not the game play. You are born violent or made violent by you're environment, I.E. real environment. As in mistreatment in school or parents, and sometimes both. Sometimes it's perceived mistreatment as well. I think this kid had a little of all of it, and yes, he knew he did wrong. Does he regret it? Most of the time I would say no. For him, I'm leaning a little to the yes side. Just a little.
@@No_Fuse8771 You think for most part he doesn't regret it? I'd say he absolutely does, even if not for what he did to his mum and dad but definitely for himself. His life is no walk in the park anymore.
@@bjbrown I watched back through and I'm struggling to find where it said he had hatred early on. I think the judge touched on it but managed to miss the point; it's way more about the horrors of addiction (of any sort) than about the game itself.
Yes, & let God forgive the son. I don't think it's too practical to "forgive & forget" when a murder has been committed. I truly fear for that family if they let Daniel back into their life if he gets out of prison at 40 years of age.
Well I mean when you think about it, is it really a surprise to see religious people doing mental gymnastics in order to justify their beliefs or actions? I mean you have to almost by definition in order to be religious in the first place. It’s something I could never quite grasp or understand and now as a 37 year old fully disabled combat veteran as well as an Avowed Atheist I absolutely cannot understand how or why people choose to believe in the things they believe in.
Yes, because forgiving and trying to grow as a person MUST BE INSANE! Everyone knows you have to actively hate people who have done wrong until you die.
@@introspectivetonysoprano It really is. At least when he lives whit you, this kid would do some other bullshit again and again. So yeah, leave acting like a saint to Jesus i guess.
I hope this kid truly appreciates that his dad forgave him. I never could. I think he's a cold-blooded psychopath who knew how to manipulate his father.
I agree with you about the video. My son played violent video games growing up and sometimes still does. If you ask his wife she'll tell you he is the most gentle person she knows. He is now 31 and remains a joy to my life and the many people that know him.
When the judge said that it was the video games fault you could tell that Daniel was wanting to smile. He should have gotten life and that's what I believe firmly.
Sounds like he was totally disconnected from his kid and blinded by stupid Christianity. Had he taken time to understand his child and even engage with his fixation, he could have avoided turning him crazy
@@RRRobertLazer Playing video games 18 hours a day and moving in with a friend over that is not normal behaviour. Who wants their kid addicted to video games? I'm not religious at all and would have taken my addicted childs console/games away too
I was there when Halo 3 came out, it will kill me to have my friends be playing it and not me. The dad was too strict on the boy. This guy looks like he did have some mental issue or genuinely evil but the dad was being too strict didn’t help
I remember one time my dad didn’t allow me to go to science camp, and I still hold a bit of a grudge against him on that. All the children my age going and not me, I still feel left out!
@Felix Rios His house, his rules, that's how it works. Those video games have adult ratings. Nothing AT ALL wrong with not letting a bratty teen play them.
Video games don't cause violence. This was a troubled teen. A teenage boy who got injured and was mentally unable to process his injury so he turned to video games. The video games gave him a purpose and made him happy, so when his father took that away, he probably felt devastated. When someone loves something that much cause it helps them cope, you take that away and they will react. So that is what I believe what happened. His parents should've instead just talked to him, spent time with him and helped him get outside more. Maybe even some therapy to help him cope with how his injury has affected his life. It all comes down to mental health in the end. There needs to be better and more proactive care when it comes to mental health no matter what the age is. If the root of the problem isn't solved then it will eventually overflow. It doesn't justify what Daniel did. He needs to be held accountable for his actions. I agree with his sentencing and hope that when he gets released, that he will live his life to the fullest and never commit another crime.
i have a feeling the father was overbearing particularly because he was a pastor. i can see him not coming to the table with a compromise. doesnt excuse anything and i have zero evidence just my instinct
Yeah, I dont think you are victim blaming or justifying his actions. However, they were his parents so they had responsibility over him. Not to be confused with responsibility over his murderous actions. My brother also struggled with video game addiction because his grades were failing and i believe he wanted something that he excelled at. However this contributed to further academic fails. He is getting better now but while these were happening other members of the family were also struggling with separate mental issues so we couldnt be there for him. I deeply regret that. In the end, we stopped activities as a family and miscommunications increased, leading to impatience and anger issues. My brother also lashed out several times, hurt himself (had to get stitches) and even rushed at our dad. He is getting better now thanks to therapy. I hope it will all be better for our family, and I wish it would have been better for this unfortunate family as well. Addictions and teenage years don't go well, I wish this could have been prevented.
I think the judge's first point was valid. Video games can be very addictive. And like many other addictions, people will go to extreme lengths to feed that addiction. The game itself was not the cause but rather his need to play. Unfortunately he let his addiction get the better of him.
I also understood where he was coming from, but I think Daniel's mental state was already unhealthy and adding the video game to that didn't make it any better.
I tend to agree. I don’t think the contents or story/violence of the game was the problem but the addiction was. It doesn’t matter if it was HALO or Dragonvale . Winning, collecting & in some cases the online competition can be very addictive. Some people have the same problem with Likes on Instagram. Combine the addiction with the spinal injury causing him to be housebound for a year and puberty is a recipe for disaster. I imagine the game was often his only escape from boredom and depression.
This could just as easily happen because his parents had forbid him from going to a party, or from hanging out with a certain group of friends, or from getting a tattoo etc. He had this in him, it just happened to be the game that inspired it. I've played violent games my entire life and I've always argued that it can actually be a productive outlet. I can remember going on rampages in GTA and the like being a way to work out the frustrations of the day knowing that you are causing no real harm to anyone or any thing. The one real takeaway I have from this case is that Mark was a much better father than this kid deserved.
Nah it was the video games. Made the boy a killer. Send it happen too many times. When will we learn as a nation? Let's ban video games for ever!!!!!!!
I got into a spat with my father when he accused me of being a terrible person because I played video games, that they were evil and caused kids to become horrible people. I laughed and asked what he knew about the games I played, then described the Harvest Moon, Animal Crossing, and Kingdom Hearts (the only “violent” game I played at the time) series to him, and asked how stories about friendship and being kind to others was a gateway to murder.
I think it was a bit different since this was basically his only coping method throughout his injury. Not saying it wasn't fucked up, but I don't think he would have snapped over being told no to a party.
as someone who knew the family, the strength, resilience, ability to forgive, and most importantly the faith of this family cannot be understated. his younger sister was a friend of mine in high school and though she didnt talk about it much, the family themselves are some of the best people I've met even throughout the darkest, most difficult time in their lives. i pray that daniel learned/learns his lesson one day, and i pray nothing but the best for the Petric family.
It is far easier to blame video games than it is to blame the person that pulled the trigger. No parent wants to believe there is anything wrong with their child, including mental illness. Especially back when this tragedy happened.
Adrian: "His friends and family described him as a normal and happy teenager" Adrian: [only shows pictures where Daniel looks like he wants to kill you with his dead shark eyes]
There have been several studies done on children to see, how children who are exposed to violence on a daily basis react to different situations. So far all the study has proven is that it makes the children react less to violent stuff, not that they turn into killing machines.
Being turned into killing machines isn't the end game ,it is that at the end of the day the child has been exposed to reactive behaviour and they sooner rather than later,act! simple
@@JustyMe I mean we've all played these types of games and are fine. If people end up having these problems it might just be a mental problem they have.
On the other hand, experiencing it in real life does something to the child. Like dad beating mom on a daily basis, the child will think they have to do that too, as they'll emulate the father (if it's a boy). And no boy would want to emulate a video-game character.
I'm starting to realize that forgiveness for people like this is a way to disassociate from the terrible truth. Because I don't see how someone could forgive a vile act such as this. This kid is screwed in the head on many levels. And I hope he rots in prison for what he's done.
This is so true tbh I’ve forgiven awful people only for them to go on and do terrible things to me/others. If there’s anything I’ve learned it’s that people don’t change and not everyone deserves forgiveness
@user-lz7kq8ne9e good for him. But that still doesn't have anything to do with the horrible act his son did. Some things are unforgivable. Sure, hate is bad, but that's most people's way of coping with anything, saying god this or god that. As long as he finds peace, that's fine. But I hope he never forgets the atrocity his son committed. Also, it's STILL a way to dissacate. I'm a Buddhist and every vile thing that's happened to me doesn't revolve around my religion, my mother abused and threatened to kill me, and I will never forgive her for destroying my childhood. Do I hate her? No, but she has to live with the fact of what she did. I didn't blame what happened on my religion or some deity, I faced the cold, harsh truth and grew from it. And that's something a lot of people who are religious don't do. Instead they give all of THEIR accomplishments to a god that allowed those things to happen. And for what? A sick plan? If it was a person, people would say that individual is terrible. Most people can't picture an existence without a deity looming over them and it baffles me. But I try to understand because it's fascinating how many disregard horrible actions and immediately blame it on "the devil" or "god". Shit happens all the time. And rather than face it, even though it's hard, they neglect truths and basic logic. So again, if that were my family member or a friend or partner, something like that will not be forgiven. He took away a life that did him no wrong.
@Bettersucksaul some do change, but for someone to do this in the first place only reinforces the fact that they had this in them to begin with. I learned the hard way what forgiving vile individuals is like myself, and I agree, they don't change for whatever reason. But mainly because they don't see anything wrong with what they're doing. And that's dangerous in some situations.
I'm not religious in any way, but I find forgiveness for even things as "evil" as this comes easily for me, personally. I've been through some "unforgivable" shit. But there's a difference between forgiving the dog that bit you out of fear because you understand why it bit you, and trusting the dog not to bite you again until the situation has changed (it's no longer a frightening situation), the offender has changed (the dog is no longer afraid of you) or you've grown as an individual yourself (you've learned to calm the dog and make it feel safe before approaching).
I played violent video games growing up, and was bullied every single day until I got to high school. I never once thought about using violence to hurt another person. I don’t know why. I have thought on why, but my best guess is that I grew up in a loving and supportive household.
probably because you were too weak to fight back thanks to the underdevelopment caused by sitting in one spot for thousands of hours and moving nothing except your fingers while eating purely junk food and drowning in soda/beer
@@saturationstation1446 drinking beer and playing games all day when he was in middle school...? And he still had time to go to school to get bullied?
Am I the only one who finds it even more horrifying when there hasn't been a history of violent behavior? Like, that person went from 0 to 10000 out of nowhere and because of basically nothing?
There is a theory that you are born a sociopath and nothing can be done against it except put you out of your misery so you don't take anyone else with you.
You dont need a history of violence to become a killer. Today, you're the most humble person on Earth, tomorrow you're on a spree killing. Just like that.
None of us know if he had a history bc all we have is word of mouth regarding his home situation and him as a person. But honestly he was a teen when this happened, even if he wasn’t violent then he had plenty of time to start
@@AlexVardr Sociopathy is highly correlated with trauma , poverty, and abuse from a young age. Honestly same thing with psychopathy but that one seems to also have genetic links
My dad is a gamer so my sister and I grew up playing video games, even GTA at a young age and we aren't violent at all. I definitely think it depends on the individual and so many other factors in their life and the video games aren't to blame.
And our favorite thing to do on GTA was to run people over to steal their money, wait for the ambulance to arrive so we could steal it and do missions then run over more people over and over to wrack up as much money as possible before getting caught. 😆
There's just certain personalities that get more addicted than others. This kid had issues to begin with and adding the hours upon hours of gaming didn't help with his mental health. I've been a gamer since the arcade games in the 80's but we had a certain time we had to be home and the games stayed at the arcade. We got the first Atari system but the discipline playing at an arcade stayed with us. This kid had a serious addiction and I've seen so many of these kids killing parents over phones it's definitely a correlation to that 24/7 usage. I saw a video just a couple of weeks ago that showed a kid beating the shit out of his teacher for taking his phone. It's not the game itself, it's being online and never turning your brain off that's become the problem.
May I suggest the case of Cody Barnoski? I went to high school with him and he murdered his own mom. He continued going to school during the week she was "missing". He recently got out on parole as he killed her when he was 14.
So let me get this right instead of getting him help for his obvious issues, they threatened to kick him out as a teenager? What the heck. The parents filled him very much.
Things video games have influenced me to do: - make art - tell stories - take classes - watch birds - make new friends - find a partner Things video games have NOT influenced me to do: -violence
CONTENT dear. You don't understand the problem? Not all video games are good. And many things called game shouldn't be considered game due to malicious content that can't bring meaning of "gaming" but just destroying psyche.
it’s strange to blame video games for violence to me I grew up in one of the top ten violent cities in the US and don’t do these things I kind of never understood the correlation it’s giving displacement
@@aromaladyellie well, for the real Christians yes. And also, it's just a good idea mental health wise. Holding onto anger and resentment = stress and yeah
Been playing violent games, DND, and listen to rock music my whole life. Not once did I think of doing anything like this. And I'm sorry, this kids tears didn't move me.
Bro in highschool when I was talking with a friend about Skyrim, a teacher overheard me. I was talking about one of the weapons, and the teacher thought I was gonna bring a knife to school or start a fire 😂. She was Christian too, and a lot of Christians (the overzealous ones) hate video games lol. That probably explains her reaction.
@@wandarask8444 Yeah if someone becomes violent "because" of a video game, it's them that's the problem not the game. Like how many gamers are out there, hundreds of millions? And 0.01% of them might kill someone because they're inherently evil. I've been playing horror games since I was a kid, and first person shooters, but I've never thought of killing someone.
@@E2otic Yeah it's the addiction itself that's the problem, not the game. Say that he was instead addicted to something else, and his dad locked that in the safe. Outcome would've been the same.
I remember my parents threw out my D&D books and accessories when I was a teen because they ran some news segments about the evil of it on TV. I never considered harming my parents. People do evil things---because they are evil.
Evil is totally subjective. Honestly, people sometimes can't control their anger and lack impulse control resulted in this. The blaming of video games comes off as a con for shucksters and grifters, played on the news to get numbers. It's like how they're dying to get a honest-to-God real person and event they can even point to about White Supremests' threat to everything good, etc. in a halfway believable way for the NPCs, so bad that they're willing to try to force round-shaped scenarios into square-shaped narratives. The Truth is, people kill for any and every reason imaginable, in the 3rd world, where right now and influx of people came from and are constantly entering the United States, as it's politicians on both sides that have sold them out and left the door wide open while they took a nap in their room that was double locked (which has it's own fridge, sink, bathroom and bath, luxuries, etc). If video games were the underlying cause, or even just one of the causes, it would've been so common as to be evident the videogames were responsible in some way, I'd imagine. Anything is possible, but if it were so I'd think you'd be seeing every day. Some guy in FL just killed his dad, mom and one of two brothers over a argument involving his spending the families savings on a video chat girl in some Eastern European Shady-Ass Place and him still calling her. I'm pretty sure someone one killed someone over Chicken McNuggets at some point in history. The TV will often be the first to tell you the Zebra Challenge Version of the Truth. On your folks throwing out your AD&D, I had something similar happen at around 15 in which they threw out all of my CDs and some shirts because they were black. I was super upset, and I didn't kill everyone. The fact that they considered that like it was something I would want to do, and that they went for the easy, knee-jerk reaction without going for insight into what I was actually into and listening to and putting in my mind and why, or what I thought about all of it. It was just "we think you're going down a bad path, etc". When you were born as a accidental mistake it becomes fairly evident pretty quickly, if not even as a subliminal, forever-impression, deep, deep in the lizard part of the brain. Remember to always care for the things you really love in a way in which shows how important they are to you, if not just out of respect but to reinforce a realistic view of how someone feels about them. Especially in this New World.
The issue here is addiction. He had a strong addition to the video game. And there is plenty of scientific research on addiction showing a strong relationship with violence. Plenty of scientific researching showing that you can be addicted to things like video games. Saying people do evil things because they are evil is like saying drunk people do stupid things because they are stupid. You are ignoring the scientific evidence that alcohol impairs judgment.
This is one of the most painful stories I have heard. I cannot begin to imagine what the father felt waking up from the coma and learning the news of why he was "here". Even harder to imagine the perspective of a dad who actually cares about his family and had good intentions for his son.
I can't believe how bad the judge was "he thought his parents were gonna respawn". And at that moment the criminal is thinking "wow this judge is dumb, I'm gonna get away with this".
Yes, exactly. People are so quick to say "oh, that person's just crazy", or something comparable, completely removing the personal responsibility of the individual.
@@trump-il5wn You're the type to say "guns don't kill people." I agree, they don't. Neither do video games. All empirical evidence suggests zero correlation between violent crime and violent video games. But something tells me you're not a fan of any science other than perhaps the "pseudo" variety.
@trump-il5wn only an idiot would believe a video game (either the disc or the machine itself) picked up a gun and fired it, lol The kid killed his mother. Was he influenced by the game? Yes. Addiction to anything can make humans do crazy things. Is it the video game's fault? No. Otherwise I'd be in prison too.
I think suffering a spinal injury wrecked his life and his dreams. He gained a sense of satisfaction from games, but we all know that satisfaction is fleeting(speaking as an avid gamer) So in his likely depressive state, having the one thing that gave him a pale reflection of the satisfaction of competition taken away, if you noticed his sports pictures, he likely felt crushed, hopeless, and worthless, which I suppose could send him into a psychotic episode.
If you look at his eyes it can be seen that he potentially had mental problems. Face reading from Japanese criminology should be added to courses for school teachers and parents so they can prevent from early age potential brutal behaviours.
My partner had a horrible accident and, similarly, became addicted to videogames. However, once he learned how to walk again he spent the majority of his time regaining his strength and getting back out into the real world. It all depends on your personality and how you handle those negative feelings about yourself.
I watch a lot of crime documentaries and crime youtubers but nobody talks so passionately about the victims as you do adrian. It isnt just performative and i don't feel awful watching your video because you give the victims the value they so clearly deserve. its not just for views and i appreciate that. i often feel guilty watching true crime thinking of it as entertainment but these are real people with grieving families. Thank you for being one of the good ones.
Millions of people play these video games on a daily basis. Yet death via video game is rare. There's always an underlying issue. It should be made legal worldwide for parents to be allowed to force their children into therapy. As a parent with a troubled teen...i feel helpless to do anything to help as laws stop me from doing anything
The underlying issue was mentioned almost immediately. His religion crazed nut case father told his child son hed kick him out rather than be a fcking loving father and help his sons issues by teaching him moderation in all things
The fact that he tried to frame his dad and attempted to shoot her sister, this monster will do anything just TO GET WHAT HE WANTS. HE SHOULDN'T BE LET OUT. NEVER
The boy is evil. How could he tell his parent's to close their eyes to give them surprise then shot them? He knew what he was doing and he's a threat to the society
It astounds me that a parent can forgive such a horrific act from their child but at the same time, refuse to listen and understand why the child wanted/needed to do something in the first place.
Agreed. While I am astounded his father is able to forgive and wants to keep a relationship with his son, my experience in detention and corrections tells me this young man should NEVER be released back into the world. His body language and the tears appear (to me) calculated and intentional. Terrible actions have terrible consequences - he should live with that behind bars until the very end.
I do think they listened to him. But somethings are rules and honestly I don't really think they were extreme. Extreme enough that the son would try killing someone.
Releasing that monster would be a huge mistake. He learned absolutely nothing,everyone gave him an excuse. Instead of acknowledging his severe mental health issues. He is a narcissist that only cared and only still cares about only himself. He got caught, but he was trying to set his dad up.He has no regret for his actions, only that he got caught. He only thinks about what he lost,like a psychopath, instead of what he took from others.He is defective and is in the right place
Wow this guy must be a real certified detective huh? 😂😂😂 idiot his parents let him hide in his room all day playing games. They didn’t care to get him to do something more positive and progressive. Learn how to think logically before speaking
I think Daniel’s accident placed him in a physical and mentally painful state of mind. He needed a way to cope and turned to gaming as a means to survive. When his parents threatened to take away the only thing that was helping him survive the pain, Daniel turned to violence.
@@sussychachi no one is justifying anything. It's just the context of what happened, because it definitely wasn't because video games makes a person violent
@@KatherineLaura6564 this boy was entitled he even tried to lie and say it was his father because he thought he wouldn’t make it. There are children in warring countries, children that are being abused as we speak and they don’t go round killing their parents. That boy had no worries or struggles in life to do what he did. So what his parents were hard on him they were just trying to raise him with morals and discipline
@Sky L I agree with everything you said except being shocked by a Christian keeping their word; obviously this is an extreme test of the dad “keeping his word” and not saying I would be able to forgive in the same situation but I have found Christians to be no worse than any other belief or religion for being hypocritical. Christians don’t (or shouldn’t) claim to be perfect; the root of Christianity is that we as humans are all flawed as sinners but can be redeemed only through Christ so unfortunately that means at times Christians can and will be hypocritical.
@@WeedIsVegan Unforgiveness eats you alive from the inside, and spews forth in bitterness towards everyone and everything in your life. No, it is better to forgive, live and be free from bitterness.
It was a very different time. Mental health was still very taboo, addiction was an embarrassment for people. A lot has changed between now and then. Getting help isn’t looked at the same way as it was then.
i grew up playing video games, and continued into my adult life. it never once made me consider violence, and when i was young, i never had violent thoughts if they were taken away. i also wrote a paper in college about how video games DONT cause violence. bc they simply don’t:). also, hey a fellow ex WoW player!
I've considered violence MANY times... But not because of video games. The opposite rather. If I'm pissed I'd try to play video games to cool off rather than do something of it.
I considered violence after playing videogames... Specifically trying martial arts irl after making top 8 in a Street Fighter tournament at a local con. So you can say that Street Fighter objectively and measurably improved my life
i played video games and im writing this from prison, we are playing video games in prison, I'm trying get pregnant but both of my legs are part of the moon hologram
Great comment, video games are not the cause of this. I grew up playing video games my self, and Resident Evil was my absolute favorite. No matter how many times I was grounded from my console, nothing like this ever entered my mind.
I am one year older than Daniel here. In 2007 I was also addicted to an online video game. That was the time when all boys are playing so many online games. Every weekend I spent the whole day going to an internet cafe and play with my friends. I also spent quite a number of hour using my home phone for a dial up internet. But I still have the responsibility to be a student. I got the first rank in my class 😊. I am doing my PhD at the moment. Video game does not equal to bad school life.
This isn't about gaming or guns, it's about control and addiction. This case was a power struggle that escalated to unimaginable heights (depths?). I played Halo 3 around this time and wonder if I played against this kid. Lastly, his father's testimony asking for leniency was touching.
As somebody who grew up (and still is) Catholic, I had very similar parents. They didn’t much approve of the violent video games. But thankfully our circumstances didn’t bring out such a dark turnout. I was able to play Halo and Call of Duty as well once I was about the same age. All they asked is that I don’t swear or cuss around them while playing it and to be careful when talking to people online. I was very aware of the online risk, and I never NOT ONCE when playing these FPS games did I think about killing anybody in real life. Sure I would get grounded and wasn’t allowed to play my games for a while, but I never hated my parents for it. I even did start playing GTA5 when I turned 18, and I was still living with my parents, and they knew I was playing it. It was all about trust and having the knowledge of how to balance it properly. Video games do not make people violent. Addiction and obsession makes people violent. Learn to control your urges and know your boundaries. Exercise self-control and such dark situations won’t likely happen.
When the judge starts talking about the "effects of video games on the brain" you can tell he's shooting from the hip with as many words he's heard from psychologists in a courtroom over the years that he can remember.
@@gaylebynumcardosa7034 My apologies. Also, I first thought your profile pic was an anime woman but on closer inspection it is a real beautiful woman lol. Also your name is badass. Have a good weekend!
I want to say that video games are 100% an addiction for some. I say this because IVe literally witnessed my husband and his addiction to them and it’s scary.
Does watching series about cheating inspire cheating in itself? Does watching videos about true crime inspire performing true crime in itself? I mean, we are all human and can be motivated in certain ways. But that doesn't mean we are changing our morality based on the media we consume. Thank you Adrian for another video! Great content as ever.
People who commit crimes like that has already underlying issues, outside sources like video games or tv series probably fueled those issues BUT they are never the cause. With people like this kid, anything can trigger him. Millions of people play violent games, how many of them commit heinous crimes? It's never the games, it's the person itself.
@@jsdldfsfsdf lol coming from someone who believes in a person who "supposedly" perform miracles and will save you from some imaginary evil makes. Ridiculous. It's the addiction, not the games itself. Anyone who can't get a fix of their addiction can do crazy things. Spare me with that Christian bs.
@@AquaHedgehog oops sorry, it's hard to tell with Christians. I legit got told by one that I'm going to hell because I'm into kpop and kpop is the instrument of evil lol
Completely agree, the one thing his dad forgot to mention is yes God is a God of love and forgiveness . But God also gave us his creation made in his image, free will . And regardless of a video game, Daniel with his free will chose to shoot his parents. The devil might whisper a idea but it is completely your choice to listen or denie that dark idea.
I bet he has no remorse! Especially since he tried framing his Dad! Just pure evil! There is no forgiveness for murder! I’m sure he misses his freedom!
I worked at GameStop back in 2015. I met a woman who went from being addicted to meth to addicted to Skyrim. She said she played with her kids and it brought her family together. I hope she’s doing well.
I’ve played video war games/ assassin games for decades, not once have I even considered killing anyone in real life. Sane people know the difference between the gaming world and real life ! This boy/man had murder in mind because he couldn’t have his own way , he was already evil !
Same. I went from playing oblivion when I was 7 years old, to battlefield games when I was 14-16. Since then played a huge number of diverse games, shadow of Mordor, shadow of war, assassin Creed games, MMOs, dishonored, sniper games, hitman, to now with star wars game, assassin's creed mirage and destiny 2. Not once has killing someone entered my mind, and it never will.
As many in the comments have mentioned, video games don't make you violent and also, I played them growing up too like many have mentioned. I was addicted to GTA San Andreas and my mum hated it because of the violence, but it never occurred to me to do something I've done in the game in real life. I think that it just comes down to common sense and having some degree of emotional maturity/empathy. I feel like the people who play violent games and commit heinous crimes, are just psychopaths.
I grew up with a much older brother so I played with him games like GTA at an age it certainly wouldn’t be recommonded and yet I’m a very non-violent person… So, I agree that such games don’t turn you into a murderer. I think addiction and some serious mental health issue in general can though. :/
Agree ! And do it again if they are under stress . There should be a database where you can look up witch convictions someone has had . These people are dangerous . Specially for partners .
When I was playing GTA all-too regularly, I went out for a drive while I was a bit short on sleep. While frustrated, I made an illegal u-turn and spanked the curb head on. Knocked the vehicle’s front end completely out of alignment and bent the hubcap. I asked myself later how I could drive that badly or do something so stupid. And the answer was, without question, that the curb didn’t seem like as big of a deal to me, because I was used to just driving over curbs in GTA. That isn’t a hypothesis. That is a FACT.
Daniel's access to a gun was infinitely more relevant to what happened here than the video game connection, since guns have the capacity to turn bad moods, sleep deprivation and rebelliousness into tragedies.
I was thinking this too as I listened to the story. He searched and searched to find the key, opened the safe, and there was his game *and* a gun. What if he opened the safe and there was just his game in there, but no gun? Would he still go to the effort to figure out another way to try to murder his parents, or would he simply go play Halo some more?
He was just being emotionally manipulative when he said that. I doubt he misses his parent, he misses being able to do whatever he wants to do, which is why he tried to kill them in the first place. I usually think prison isn't a good enough punishment for criminals, but here it fits perfect. You killed a parent because they wouldn't let you do what you want? Well spend half your life in a building where your life is centered around a schedule you have no control over. It's perfect.
@@Death-999Prison really isn’t that bad. They’re confined, but they still get TV, socializing with friends, and the gift of life. It’s not what they put on TV.
I think the exact same thing would have happened if it was a non-violent video game, a toy, a bike, a phone, anything that Daniel wanted that was taken away.
So, you don't think that it desensitized him to the idea of violent behavior at all? I remember as a little kid, if I even saw a cartoon character punch another, I would be so surprised and I would think it was so bad but if you are playing a video game where you think of the idea of someone getting shot and killed constantly and see fake blood, then can't you see how you could become desensitized to the idea of killing? Especially if you already have a weak moral foundation. The more you think about killing, the less bad it becomes to you. Also, you don't think a video game about using weapons could teach kids how to use them and get them well prepared if the time comes that they want to do something like that? You know, I think we should be more accountable for the influence that we have on children.
@@joshuayoukai4790 I do not think it desensitized him to the idea of violent behavior at all. How many people watch violent movies, read violent books, and play violent games, and still understand that real life doesn't work that way? This was someone who was already broken.
@@joshuayoukai4790 sure because super soldiers who kill bands of martians are a thing that exists. Why do people think kids are stupid and can't separate fantasy from reality.
@@joshuayoukai4790 I can only speak for me but I have played all the games and am not at all desensitized to real world violence or gore. I abhor it. The game world isn't real and has no correlation to the real world, it's like a movie, or even like reading a book. Anyone who is remotely 'typical' mentally has no problems differentiating between the two. In halo you aren't even shooting at humans, and there is little gore if any. It could have been a my little ponies DVD and had the same result. The kid killed his parents because he didn't want to be under their control and because he has a mental defect that allows murderous behavior.
@@piperbird7193 I'm not saying that people don't understand that it is not like real life. My point was that someone who already has violent thoughts is someone susceptible to desensitization of violence through the constant thoughts and fantasies in their mind that can be perpetuated by this kind of entertainment, whether it be in movies, books or games. Down the line, kids are being taught to solve their problems with violence and the countries that have tough regulations on what they are allowed to show children, like Japan for instance, are much safer than countries like America that help perpetuate violence by their rhetoric and media daily. I don't think these statistics are a coincidence. Though there is no direct coorelation, a coorelation can be made between a country, state or city that has violence instituted in thier media and the overall violence of the region.
Thank you for covering this, Adrian. Gaming addiction is a legitimate psychological condition. The content of the games are not recognized in the Psych community. As you said, if violence in video games really caused people to go crazy and kill people, there would be a WHOLE lot more people murdering others and "thinking the victims will respawn." Like, maybe if you have a screw loose, but Daniel knew what he was doing. He was clearly impulsive and mad, but he knew what he was doing.
@@cdes1776 I see your point about more school sh@@tings, but they aren't necessarily video game related. We have a LOT more kids in the world today and they face a plethora of issues that can cause a LOT more psychological issues that can result in violence. A common denominator in a lot of those incidents correlate with being bullied. Unfortunately, some kids end up "ending" themselves, or participate in self destructive behavior like drinking and drugs, and some kids seek revenge by harming others who they believe have wronged them. Some kids have psychological issues to start with and they don't even have to have a "reason" for harming others. If it was all about violent video games just imagine how many kids would be committing those types of crimes. Almost every single kid in America is playing those types of video games.
I will never understand why parents aren't comfortable with their kids playing with video games guns but are perfectly fine with them having real guns in their house.
@@fionagregory9147 but you allow your police force guns? So what happens if a guy comes into your house to rape and murder your wife/sister or mother? You gonna what defend yourself by grabbing the phone? Lol you all will be dead by the time the police show up.
i remember this case, and it was one of those that everyone said there were no outward signs apart from his obsession with a game, he was mad that it was taken away, and by taking it away, his parents thought they were doing a favour. but his obsession and outlet went too deep for them to realise he needed help
games are designed to be addictive, especially for young minds. you'd be incredibly naive to think anything is done in this system for good reasons or with the intention of improving quality of life for everyone. like, you have to ignore all the history of eurocentric culture to think anything we do is for any reason other than consolidating wealtth and power into europe.
@@saturationstation1446 No not every game is a ripoff or wants to drain you of your bank account or is built around addicting mechanics. Sure there are many, especially as a phone app, but saying "every game is just made to make you addicted" is as stupid as some politicians still lamenting over "killer games".
"He regained his health, then eventually, his strength." is so beautifully written. It made me think about the difference between the two, as they're commonly used interchangeably. Thanks for another great case!
What gets overlooked: He suffered a spinal injury. And he was on meds for it. Considering the spinal is essentially the central network for the body (including the brain), its fair to wonder if the injury combined with the meds led to a deterioration in his rationale. He literally could have taken the game and left and instead he almost committed quadruple-murder.
if you look at some of the photos they kind of paint a dfferent story from the "outgoing happy teenager" they portray him as...id be willing to be he likely had anger problems from the start or was more unhappy than what we are led to believe
..what the...?🤦... your SPINE is not your brain! it play ZERO role in cognition! damaging it does nothing towards altering thoughts!! ...LOL...😂 the meds however might. But those are same meds given to millions of other patients. SO NO, spinal injury itself doesn't alter thoughts, it's NOT A BRAIN INJURY... pls leave the biology alone for those of knowledge.
...a spinal injury IS NOT A BRAIN INJURY!! there is no altered cognition from spinal injuries 🤦 ... kindly leave the biology for those with ACTUAL knowledge.
...and don't blame the meds either. Those same meds are given to millions of other ppl too. So again leave the biology/pharmacology to those with ACTUAL knowledge. 🤦
I have played video games my entire life. Not once have I thought that violence was the answer to my teen problems. It depends on the factors of other things. Some are mentally capable to murder while others like me get upset seeing people hurt. Video games are not the issue...it is the lack of mental health support in the US.
@@KatherineLaura6564 In a study of convicted murderers, 25% were found to be schizophrenics with a religious fixation. In general, secular countries are less violent than religious ones. That's not an opinion, so draw your own conclusions.
@@KatherineLaura6564 see I disagree. Yes some are bad but not every child with religious parents go out to kill. I grew up in church my whole childhood and was abused at home and still did not go out and kill them. He had the personality to kill.
The shameless media and Politicians love to blame violent games. Yet they say nothing about violent books, tvs or movies. Also they have ratings for reason if you are a parent and you bought lil Timmy GTA, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. I hate how they use people's tragedy to push this crap. Keep up the good work Coffeehouse 👍
@@Rubycella You know what's actually causing people to be shot? GUNS. Never once has a video game player killed their parents in my country. Not even once. Especially over a video game. You babbling "pEriOd" doesn't change the fact that it wasn't the video game. The boy is mentally very ill. THAT's what caused him to shoot his parents.
@@AtomicExtremophile Books, tv, and movies aren’t interactive (unless you get a choose your own ending version, which do exist), true, but you’ve got to have no imagination if you say they can’t immerse someone. That’s the point of such media. They’re an escape from reality. For a short time, you can experience what others experience through those mediums. I feel bad for you if you can’t enjoy one, or all, of those three without immersing yourself in them.
@I Don't Read Replies I can see the difference, however people still tend to act out on things they see or hear and use it as an excuse. Nobody brings up how people get into fights and destroy things at ball games. Sometimes regardless of if their team wins or losses.
Such a weird case. Daniel definitely has issues. I also hated that they basically blamed the parents, for giving him a game system. Like no, that's not how that works. "He misses everything about being free"; well dude you should have thought of that before you tried to kill your parents.
As a school librarian as well as a young parent and retired kid (j.k), this is what i feel like about parenting and gaming. Banning your kids from getting what they want only make them want that thing more. (Daniel friend, who let him live with, didn't end up murdering his whole family, most of the gamers didn't end up as murderer). And kid always find the way to get what they want, you take away your ability to control it. Harsh punishment without a solid communication only worse the relationship between you and the kid. Punish them, but find the middle ground between them and you. It's important to show them your opinion as well as listening to their opinion, be their friend, not their enemy... And yeah, you can't force your ideology on them. Don't ever chase your kid out of the house... Just don't. They may be getting cold feet and choose to obedience, but it left them a scar on their mind, remind them that you are willing to be their stranger or even, for you, they are just a stranger inside your house.
I grew up playing Halo, Saints Row, and Skyrim, and I never once did anything violent because of them. My philosophy is if Cooking Mama doesn’t make you a chef, then GTA doesn’t make you a killer. It’s an addiction to gaming or preexisting mental illness that does it.
I'm not against such games at all.. I've played "ego shooters" in my teen years.. But your example is simply an anecdote.. Every person can get influenced differently by video games. In some it may trigger the decision to commit a crime. But yeah, games can't be blamed generally...
He could "seek absolute justice" for his wife or "salvage" his relationship with his killer son. Boy how did I know he'd choose the psycho boy..? Big shocker.
I don’t know if this is intentional but the ads on your videos always seem perfectly placed to create little cliffhangers. It’s great. Love watching your videos, not everyone tells crime stories well but your videos are pretty addicting.
I had a lot of heated debates with my parent over video games as a teen. I even ran away from home because I got banned from going to play video games at a friends house. My dad picked me up and took me home of course. There were times when things got BAD. Never once did the idea or thought of harming either of my parents come into my mind, even when insane and aggressive arguments happened. It just simply never occurred to me to hurt anyone. Nor did I ever want anyone to be hurt. I just wanted to play games non-stop and be left alone but my parents were like a barrier, not something to hurt. Yes, video game dopamine rushes are addictive, especially for a teenagers mind, but never in the world would it lead to murder or harm from playing. This kid was just a sociopath.
theres plenty of science to back up the judges opinions on video gaming being addictive in excess because of releasing dopamine in your brain.' The reward center in the brain releases dopamine in response to a pleasurable experience or hyperarousal. If a person experiences hyperarousal while playing video games, the brain associates the activity with dopamine. The person develops a strong drive to seek out that same pleasure again and again.'(1 Jul 2022)
I think that Daniel was just mad with his parents for not allowing to do whatever he wanted. Typical teenage/parent relationship but not the typical result. Most teenagers grow up and get to do their own thing, eventually! This is a sad story!
When you said "mum I'm sorry" that melted me to pieces. As a single mother with very minimal moral support, i feel the hardest part of my role to my children is trying to figure out how to define morality in a world that has very little. My biggest fear is not protecting them from their own decision making. thank you for your reflections and insight.
I'm a mother and tho I understand where you are coming from your use of "in a world that has very little" is gross. If you think about reality, the people you know, *most* of them, are *mostly* moral. It's true for *most* of us. There isn't a lack of morality, it's just not getting as many views. That's on us, the viewers and parents. Show your children the VAST morality please 💓💓💓💓
@Barbi Incognito I'm showing them as much morality and humility as i can, even when I'm scolded for it by the nose ups around me. I've never said those words in front of my children before and always try my best to show them the positive in anything, even when my daughter is bullied and tormented i still find a way to spin it into something she can grow from. Yes a lot of people have a good moral compass but my viewpoint comes from a harsh and painful reality I've never been able to escape. And no matter how hard i tried to protect my kids from the kind of people who tore my life apart, i couldn't. How was i supposed to know dangerous people are all ober our family and neighborhood. This world isn't what it used to be there are more liars manipulators and deviants are all around us, my own neighborhood has 8 sex offenders my kids can't even walk from the bus like i did growing up. if we don't stay vigilant as well as hopeful there could be just as much problems. Everything has to have a balance good or bad. I will always show my kids how to be hopeful and empathetic but I'll be damned if something ever happened to them like the things that happened to me because they were ignorant to the dangers around them. Just because a rose has thorns doesn't mean its not still beautiful, but the beauty doesn't make it harmless either.
Spoiler alert: I don't think gaming was to blame for this case... That is probably why I felt so compelled to cover it. How perspective has changed over the years...
Neither do I. Though, it’s still tragic that this happened. I appreciate your coverage of the case.
Thank you for covering this very tragic case.
If you still play games, what is your favorite?
I agree, it's deeper then that, defently some darker issues in the mind of this individual, as in all that do things to hurt, harm or the other unthinkable n disturbing acts.. .thank you for your stories, doing a nice job, hope to see many new stories to come. Hope you n your family Stay safe and healthy during our crazy times..😊blessings
Behavioral specialists have proven time and time again that video games aren't linked to violence or any antisocial behavior.
He uttered the words “I have a surprise for you” and then attempted to execute his parents. That’s BEYOND video games….
That's right. Let's ban video games! G@mers are the devil!
father is an idiot,
Thank you for pointing that out. I'm tired of people blaming on videogames or music .
I'm sure holocaust and rape of Nanking was because of videogames too
Shows malice.
Video games don't cause violence. It's the addiction (to anything) that can cause people to do crazy things. That said, millions of people suffer from addiction -- nothing justifies what Daniel did.
I was going to say the same. Addiction is addiction. The game itself is irrelevant.
If anyone takes my halo 3 game though there will be consequences.
Ummmm GAAAAAY-LO does
Actually there's a proven double study that shows it desensitizes children to violence.... and dampens their capacity for compassion and empathy. It was very sad to see the examples within the study and it makes sense why the military like to recruit kids that enjoy first person shooters l.
@@garrysekelli6776 💀
This kid didn't kill and shoot his father because he was in an altered state, believing he was a living version of the game. He shot his family, because he didn't get what he wanted. Simple.
He killed, hurt, plotted, and stole for the pure fact he wanted something and his Dad said, "No."
He’s evil.
face it he may have got the fix playing the game and not from a real life shooting
Spot on, Melanie Ash.
I agree.
It’s absolutely ridiculous to say this is because of a video game. This kid is a psychopath you can’t explain why a psychopath does horrible things.
As a teen in the 80's I had my fair share of arguments with my parents over heavy metal music.
Today I am 53 years old, still listen to heavy metal and still love my parents endlessly.
Exactly same for me.
I’m so glad my mom was flexible with my music choices… I’m sure listening to deathcore when you don’t like it isn’t very fun. It’d be like my children blasting that BroCountry… I’d slowly start going insane. 😂
Gay
Same...56yrs old .
@@Shambles99😂😂😂😂
The fact that Daniel actually tried to stage the murder scene to appear like a murder-suicide & was ready to kill his sister & husband, shows that this was not just some psychological reaction to being banned from playing a video game. Even asking them to close their eyes shows he had a moment to contemplate what he was about to do & change his mind.
Judge: "Hmm must of been a special halo mission"
I do actually believe that he really is sorry, though. He was a child when he did this and has probably changed immensely over time.
@@kingjoe3rd I believe he was sorry for the consequences he received. He didn't want his father or family to hate him after the fact, because he likely would have no real connection in his life. For a cold blooded, double-murder attempt, with immediate lying/blame casting to his father (he justified this so easily and quickly because 1. his father denied him a thing he wanted and 2. the murders were his dad's fault because he said no to him), he got off really light. I don't think he deserved forgiveness, but maybe his mom would've thought differently.
@@kingjoe3rd He probably is sorry but it doesn’t matter anymore, the damage is done
Exactly, it was premeditated.
Speaking from my own experiences, after playing The Legend of Zelda from a very young age, it has led me to a life full of breaking pots and vases in the hopes of finding large gem stones.
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The newer versions of the game isn’t making me any better. I thought there was a Hinox in the forest I was taking a walk in 😂
@@Nokomomo22 🤣
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Brooooooo. 😂😂😂😂😂
I remember my dad banned my sister and I from playing The Sims because we kept locking them in a room with couches and fireplaces 😂 he thought we were psychopaths.
Video games don't cause violence. RIP Sue ❤
You didn't blast your mum to death though or dad, bit different
😅 Be nice to your sim people😂; your poor dad, well he was wrong because you are ok.
You made me laugh! Poor dad, he just wanted to make sure you turned out okay and you did 😄
My parents did a similar thing with Zoo Tycoon lol apparently we found it a bit too funny to let the dinosaurs escape and eat the guests
This is a great string of confessions 🤣🤣🤣
I went thru that "I hate my parents. I'm so edgy" phase when I was a teen. Never did i ever think to harm them.. Music, video games, movies etc... didn't turn me into that. He's a monster
Right you just be in that fuck you guys mood but that’s it lol this guys wild
As if those moods did not impact them either...
Same. I never hated my parents but I went through the edgelord stuff. I thought I was smarter than them just because I decided to become an atheist, listened to screamo, played tons of violent video games from CoD to Dragon Age, read very grim books… and never in my life have I even gotten in a fight. My mom and I, may she rest in peace, had our fair share of arguments, but never once in my life could I fathom the idea of putting a hand on her. I still play video games nearly daily as a man with a career.
Monsters know what they are doing and they never regrets. He is a child...
Poser
As a man who's been playing video games since I was 6 or so, I can confidently say I've never thought about brutally murdering my parents with my dads gun and then try to blame it on him.
Maybe not brutally. 😉
Video games before were different. And we did grow up in more normal environment. While nowadays kids don't know how grass outside looks. Engaged daily into phones/apps/games. It's not just about playing a game nowadays - it's bigger social problem where borders to what's ok or not are destroyed. Also now definition of a "game" distorted. Many things are called a "game" while carrying violent content for entertainment with sold purpose to kill isn't gaming nor should be considered a game. And lastly - not all are you. Especially nowadays kids with fragile mental state.
I know it's not the games .I been playing since I was 4 . My 2nd video game was Resident evil .I played every horror and violent game before I was a teen. The most violent thought I ever had was beating up the school bully. Lol never had a murderous thought in my life
Stop the cap 😤😂😉
You've thought of it just now though? Also you are on a video about it?
When the whole "Are video games evil?" discussion came up, my mom made an interesting point. When she was young, parents were freaking out about the Beatles. "Oh, they're satanic. If you let your kids listen to them, they'll wind up in a cult!" The parents were overreacting to something they neither understood nor appreciated. She loved the Beatles, and she turned out fine. Maybe video games were in the same boat.
Sorry no, bad comparison. Addictive online games are basically made for your brain to get hooked on them and to trick your brains reward and accomplishment circuits, thats how this guy can play 18 hours a day, because the game tricks his brain into feelings of accomplishments. It stresses the brain in a negative way that beatles music does not, noone would listen to Beatles 18 hours a day, its just meant as inspiration not brainwashing
@@leob4403 bro I literally have music playing from the moment I wake up to the moment I fall asleep. What are you talking about.
@@leob4403 it would be a bad comparison if that was what was being compared.
However it’s the thoughts the judge had regarding video games that is being compared to how people thought about the Beatles.
Yes. Right along with heavy metal.
@@shaedric5733 music doesnt make you into a nervous wreck forced to sit infront of a monitor until you slowly go insane. It doesnt trick your brain into thinking you are accomplishing real tasks in life. Did you ever hear anyone that stopped their life dead in their tracks because they had to sit at home and listen to Beatles 18 hours a day? Its a bad comparison period
While I was being diagnosed with autism, I explained to my psychologist that World of Warcraft was one of my many hobbies and that it was routinely criticised by a lot of people in my life - my psychologist at the time, she took time to listen and helped me see that there are many unseen benefits such as making friends, solving puzzles, challenging yourself to read - gaming, particularly in WoW, has been a great benefit to who I am today. I no longer play, but the concept of fantasy gaming gave me so many skills that I utilise today as an individual with a bachelor's degree in education.
"Many skills & bachelor of education" ---> Awesome dude! 👏🏼
Yeah!! Oddly enough playing Skyrim has helped me irl with problem solving, timing and other things! Glad you found a special interest that helped you Jason 🤘🏾
I loved this.
@@harrypottah8889Skyrim helped me a lot too! Especially with the English language as a kid (me being Swedish).
It also helped me with some social skills.
+ Inigo
Same here.
This boy does not deserve to walk free, this is typical behaviour for a psychopath: most people assume that there was no way he was in his right mind because there was no way he could get away with it, however in his mind, with his grandiose sense of self thought he could frame his father. There was something he wanted and he ruthlessly tried to that.
psychopaths don't feel guilt or that it's wrong. he isnt a pyscho. maybe a sociopath, but I'm not a psychologist. but it doesn't take a doctorates to look up the traits. he missed his mom and knew it was wrong
@@Sputterbugthank u
@@Sputterbug you have that backwards,sociopaths are the ones that dont feel guilt or remorse.
psycopaths are the emotional,impulse driven poeple.
i honestly dont think hes either,i simply think hes an entitled brat who couldnt handle his father putting his foot down so he decided to try and shut him up for good...thats alll that was a big violent vengeance driven temper-tantrum.
he lucked out with a forgiving father and a video game hating judge
Neither psychopath or sociopath are official terms anymore, now it's "psychopathy".
As a psychologist, this is more a matter of addiction than a videogame. An addiction destroys lives.
Dopamine is a hell of a drug
public school system turning your kids into heathens and that's the bottom line...schools raise your kids unless your rich and know better than to send your kids to the satanic synagogue aka school...they don't teach you how to learn they teach you what to learn,indoctrinate you with absolute garbage...tv,schools have turned this country to a land of heathens..JESUS CHRIST IS TRUTH...
as an addict, can confirm
you are absolutely right .. video games today are like drugs fo young people addictive and made so by the designers... look how tiktok take childrens avereness from reality...
as a psychologist you have walls full of indoctrination certificates and it did you no good...your so far off your analysis of daniel...uuummmm addiction...gtfoh...you will never know any real truth because you think you already know it...I'm a country boy in the backwoods of Alabama and I laugh at your education...I've forgot more than you will ever know...
I could never forgive a sibling for killing my mother, nearly my father, and wanted me dead too. All the surgeries, physical therapy, PTSD, grief over losing his wife, slipping into a coma nearly dying himself, and still he forgave is unbelievable. It's scary how Daniel will walk free in 7 yrs. If he can do that to his family then he's capable of anything.
Maybe now he’ll learn how to be a good parent 😂 the parents are the cause of this because they created the kid and raised the kid and couldn’t give the kid a positive outlet besides video games. Sucks
Hopefully someone puts him down in prison before then
Forgives him for killing his beloved wife but wouldn’t cut him slack on Halo 3. What a guy
@@zackhickey4922right? Tf is up with that?
I mean the guy was probably like severely fucking mentally ill. I don't get comments like these. We act and assume as if everyone is in standard functioning to our own.
I've had severe mental problems of my own that were exacerbated by physical health conditions that affected my brain function. Everyone took any bad incidents or mistakes I've made over the years and treats me like I'm a fully capable, ordinary human being that should take blame for his actions, but like, I have a mountain of fucking shit that infected my brain. I did research to realize that I had like 7 fucking mental disorders that I didn't even realize that I had (well not that bad but it was intense). People don't realize how severe mental health can be and how much it can contribute to shit.
Chances are you don't know enough to understand the specific circumstances of the killer or what went on inside the person's head or what was potentially wrong with them. I'm dead sick of these comments that talk about how disgusting or unforgivable many criminals are when it's like, you don't even know the circumstance of most of these fucking people and you're operating off of an archetype that exists in your head.
Everyone thinks of killers or other pathological criminals like some kind of cartoon character bad guy. Sometime it's not that simple.
When we talk about people and their mistakes, it's like a very very complex world that exists. Child molesters, for instance. Very quickly villainized category. But did you know that peoploe with pedophilia have altered nervous systems and there's a boatload of psychological confusion that goes on in their brain? Like they are warped to sometimes think that the victim wants it and its a thing where they're fucking crazy. It's not as simple as "evil guy does X". When your brain is fucked, you do stupid shit.
Anyone that is willing to make comments like this, I recommend they pick up college-level textbooks in psychological disorders and other things that are related to psychology. You'd be surprised how much more complicated it can really be.
I feel bad when I accidentally step on a bug, so I have no clue how someone can go through with murdering their own family 😭
Depends on the context. I too would feel bad if I stepped on bug unintentionally, but I have no sympathy for slapping the absolute shit out of that mosquito attacking my exposed skin while I sleep.
@@DemBigOlEyes This is so relatable 😁
@@DemBigOlEyesor Kamikaze right at your ear lol
Me Three! It's unimaginable to me that someone could off their whole family!
I never fell bad for smashing a spider, but I start to get paranoid. Like, what if that spider has a family? Now they want justice for me smashing their don. Next thing I know the whole spider mafia is waiting for me at my door.
I'm honestly just impressed that the father survived a gunshot to the head, that's rare. He was lucky to say the least.
Idk if lucky is the right word in this case. He lost his wife and lots of his faculties, had to relearn them all over again.
The son was simply a bad shot. I mean, he was right behind him. Makes me wonder who actually had their eyes closed.
No, gaming isn’t to blame, Daniel is to blame. His father is far more forgiving than anyone else may have been.
I mean the guy probably had some kind of mental disorder or something. You never know. It's very easy to just say someone's "bad" but like, I'm a guy who has a mental illness and I've studied mental illness. Even people that are sex offenders who commits crimes against kids, they often are reaped with something wrong with their mind and a sense of internal confusion. It's not as simple and cut and dry as we make these things. There's some people that are cold-blooded but a lot of things that can happen. Sometimes there can be things just insanely insanely wrong with people that stretches beyond the common person's ability to understand.
I think this kind of pop culture thinking about responsibility and other things, that you read in youtube comments or hear from conservative-leaning people in real life, it ignores the larger picture of everything that can possibly be wrong with a person's mind where they just do something stupid because of distorted perception and thinking. The actual reality of what can happen with many people who are dysfunctional and can make serious mistakes, it's quite sad. Me, I've even had physical health compllciations for years and its affected to my brain to where I've been more vengeful and cold and standoffish as a person, on top of mental shit. You think it's as easy as "someone is bad", which is what many people have told me for my mistakes, but it's not always as simple as that.
I'm not saying cold-blooded people can't exist. But I recommend that everyone who makes these talking points about "responsibility" or "blame" or shits on criminals or whatever, they pick up some college textbooks on mental disorders and mental health and understand all the convoluted shit that actually goes on.
@@zrexx9428 I dont care about your mental problems, if you commit a crime, fuck em.
Weird christians. My son murdered my wife and me also but he deserves a second chance 💀
@@MrCosmin94 weird kid on UA-cam complaining about forgiveness of all things in the video. Took the one wholesome thing and complained about it. Imagine.
@@Daddydeeds1 "kid" 🤣🤣🤣
Even before video games, we went out and played games that involved "shooting and killing" bad guys. Our friends would play dead then pop back up. No one confused the playing of these games with real life bad guys and shooting.
Exactly - and the hundreds of millions of people who play video games (I am not one of them I don't like them) are not running around killing other people in a delusional fog.
Cowboys and Indians as kids, teaches you the value of weapons vs over reaching admin.
Because playing like that doesn't have realistic blood spatter or other realistic violence. We knew it was pretend when we used finger guns or even squirt guns/cap guns.
It's different when it comes to VIRTUAL REALITY which AFFECTS BRAIN directly. That's why it is malicious. You should know difference between playing irl and on computer. Especially for nowadays youth that foesnt know how grass outside looks..
I explained to a friend the difference between violence in video games and what happens in real life. No sane person can confuse real humans with AI that comes at you even when you shoot it with multiple bullets over and over. There’s something almost comical about video game violence that never translates to actual human murder.
Daniel isn't a little kid or mentally predisposed to extremely childlike thoughts. He knew there's no respawn in real life.
Yeah the whole 'video games made me do it' is as bollocks as 'god/devil made me do it' or 'music' - billions of people do ALL those things and don't hurt people. If he'd had no video games there would have been another 'reason' - and it was more likely it was because he didn't get his own way.
My parents always took the approach of "monitor and educate" rather than "ban." (I was born in 1989). I feel like being given an outlet, whether through games, heavy music, martial arts, does so much more for mental health than being denied and sheltered. Imagine feeling trapped, possible resentment for your parents for denying you something that all of your friends have (maybe even like an outcast because you're more sheltered than others) while you're a teenager. You're already existing in a hormonal minefield. Couple that with some mental instability and...yeah
You got it right, that was my very first thought. This kid was probably blocked from a lot because of his dad's religious fervor, and then for a year he was even more trapped within the home while his spine healed. Not saying the kid was justified of course, just that I can see why he might "abruptly" snap.
I disagree. This young man had hatred early on and the game may have been the incentive that he needed to commit the crime. His father knows better than I but the son was of an age to know better. The son is in a better place.
@@bjbrown Incentive, as in the game it self, or the game play? I hope I said that right. I can see the game it self but not the game play. You are born violent or made violent by you're environment, I.E. real environment. As in mistreatment in school or parents, and sometimes both. Sometimes it's perceived mistreatment as well. I think this kid had a little of all of it, and yes, he knew he did wrong. Does he regret it? Most of the time I would say no. For him, I'm leaning a little to the yes side. Just a little.
@@No_Fuse8771 You think for most part he doesn't regret it? I'd say he absolutely does, even if not for what he did to his mum and dad but definitely for himself. His life is no walk in the park anymore.
@@bjbrown I watched back through and I'm struggling to find where it said he had hatred early on. I think the judge touched on it but managed to miss the point; it's way more about the horrors of addiction (of any sort) than about the game itself.
“forgive them, father, they know not what they do…” I’d argue his son knew exactly what he was doing.
Yes, & let God forgive the son. I don't think it's too practical to "forgive & forget" when a murder has been committed. I truly fear for that family if they let Daniel back into their life if he gets out of prison at 40 years of age.
Well I mean when you think about it, is it really a surprise to see religious people doing mental gymnastics in order to justify their beliefs or actions? I mean you have to almost by definition in order to be religious in the first place. It’s something I could never quite grasp or understand and now as a 37 year old fully disabled combat veteran as well as an Avowed Atheist I absolutely cannot understand how or why people choose to believe in the things they believe in.
Yes, because forgiving and trying to grow as a person MUST BE INSANE! Everyone knows you have to actively hate people who have done wrong until you die.
@@MAGA4EVA1986 I really would like to take a moment to say thank you for your services!!! 🫡
@@introspectivetonysoprano It really is. At least when he lives whit you, this kid would do some other bullshit again and again. So yeah, leave acting like a saint to Jesus i guess.
I hope this kid truly appreciates that his dad forgave him. I never could. I think he's a cold-blooded psychopath who knew how to manipulate his father.
I agree with you about the video. My son played violent video games growing up and sometimes still does. If you ask his wife she'll tell you he is the most gentle person she knows. He is now 31 and remains a joy to my life and the many people that know him.
When the judge said that it was the video games fault you could tell that Daniel was wanting to smile. He should have gotten life and that's what I believe firmly.
It was god’s plan :-).
@@investor.z wtf
Bc he typed ggez in chat
@@cursedcatisgod yep all is God's plan
@@investor.z then that god needs to be burned
Damn, imaging being his dad. Poor guy and he still tried to save his son afterwards. Just horrendous.
Sounds like he was totally disconnected from his kid and blinded by stupid Christianity. Had he taken time to understand his child and even engage with his fixation, he could have avoided turning him crazy
Throwing out your kid for doing something like playing a game with violence is ridiculous..
@@RRRobertLazer Agreed.
@@RRRobertLazer Playing video games 18 hours a day and moving in with a friend over that is not normal behaviour. Who wants their kid addicted to video games? I'm not religious at all and would have taken my addicted childs console/games away too
I would never forgive my son, no matter what!!. What a coward!
No “regular” person could justify murder let alone your parents over a video game without some deep rooted undiagnosed issues.
on the other hand, no regular parent could kick his sick child out of house over a freaking videogame. sounds like religious fanaticism
I was there when Halo 3 came out, it will kill me to have my friends be playing it and not me. The dad was too strict on the boy. This guy looks like he did have some mental issue or genuinely evil but the dad was being too strict didn’t help
I remember one time my dad didn’t allow me to go to science camp, and I still hold a bit of a grudge against him on that. All the children my age going and not me, I still feel left out!
Or, he was just a brat that refused to follow the rules of his house.
@Felix Rios His house, his rules, that's how it works. Those video games have adult ratings. Nothing AT ALL wrong with not letting a bratty teen play them.
Video games don't cause violence. This was a troubled teen. A teenage boy who got injured and was mentally unable to process his injury so he turned to video games. The video games gave him a purpose and made him happy, so when his father took that away, he probably felt devastated. When someone loves something that much cause it helps them cope, you take that away and they will react. So that is what I believe what happened. His parents should've instead just talked to him, spent time with him and helped him get outside more. Maybe even some therapy to help him cope with how his injury has affected his life. It all comes down to mental health in the end. There needs to be better and more proactive care when it comes to mental health no matter what the age is. If the root of the problem isn't solved then it will eventually overflow. It doesn't justify what Daniel did. He needs to be held accountable for his actions. I agree with his sentencing and hope that when he gets released, that he will live his life to the fullest and never commit another crime.
i have a feeling the father was overbearing particularly because he was a pastor. i can see him not coming to the table with a compromise. doesnt excuse anything and i have zero evidence just my instinct
Yeah, I dont think you are victim blaming or justifying his actions. However, they were his parents so they had responsibility over him. Not to be confused with responsibility over his murderous actions. My brother also struggled with video game addiction because his grades were failing and i believe he wanted something that he excelled at. However this contributed to further academic fails. He is getting better now but while these were happening other members of the family were also struggling with separate mental issues so we couldnt be there for him. I deeply regret that. In the end, we stopped activities as a family and miscommunications increased, leading to impatience and anger issues. My brother also lashed out several times, hurt himself (had to get stitches) and even rushed at our dad. He is getting better now thanks to therapy. I hope it will all be better for our family, and I wish it would have been better for this unfortunate family as well. Addictions and teenage years don't go well, I wish this could have been prevented.
@@Rebrn-bk5emHim choosing to exile his own son over a video game isn't a very "pastor" thing to do... That whole family was troubled
Through this horror, I prefer to concentrate on how sweet it is that you apologized to your mum and admitted that you now understand her.
All of us parents out here hope to hear those words someday.. ❤
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I think the judge's first point was valid. Video games can be very addictive. And like many other addictions, people will go to extreme lengths to feed that addiction. The game itself was not the cause but rather his need to play. Unfortunately he let his addiction get the better of him.
I also understood where he was coming from, but I think Daniel's mental state was already unhealthy and adding the video game to that didn't make it any better.
I tend to agree. I don’t think the contents or story/violence of the game was the problem but the addiction was. It doesn’t matter if it was HALO or Dragonvale . Winning, collecting & in some cases the online competition can be very addictive. Some people have the same problem with Likes on Instagram. Combine the addiction with the spinal injury causing him to be housebound for a year and puberty is a recipe for disaster. I imagine the game was often his only escape from boredom and depression.
Mjeah bs. A videogame isn't heroine
@@Flaschenteufelno, but the neurological impact is very similar. And most heroin addicts start off with softer drugs providing less of a high.
@@Flaschenteufel addiction is addiction. Gambling is not Heroine but people have ruined their lives from it.
This could just as easily happen because his parents had forbid him from going to a party, or from hanging out with a certain group of friends, or from getting a tattoo etc. He had this in him, it just happened to be the game that inspired it. I've played violent games my entire life and I've always argued that it can actually be a productive outlet. I can remember going on rampages in GTA and the like being a way to work out the frustrations of the day knowing that you are causing no real harm to anyone or any thing. The one real takeaway I have from this case is that Mark was a much better father than this kid deserved.
Nah it was the video games. Made the boy a killer. Send it happen too many times. When will we learn as a nation? Let's ban video games for ever!!!!!!!
I got into a spat with my father when he accused me of being a terrible person because I played video games, that they were evil and caused kids to become horrible people.
I laughed and asked what he knew about the games I played, then described the Harvest Moon, Animal Crossing, and Kingdom Hearts (the only “violent” game I played at the time) series to him, and asked how stories about friendship and being kind to others was a gateway to murder.
@@JackieOwl94 youre a terrible person and should be locked up.
Imagine having this weak mentality lol 'ive had a hard day at work i know ill shoot people on gta to destress!' Hit the gym lol
I think it was a bit different since this was basically his only coping method throughout his injury. Not saying it wasn't fucked up, but I don't think he would have snapped over being told no to a party.
as someone who knew the family, the strength, resilience, ability to forgive, and most importantly the faith of this family cannot be understated. his younger sister was a friend of mine in high school and though she didnt talk about it much, the family themselves are some of the best people I've met even throughout the darkest, most difficult time in their lives. i pray that daniel learned/learns his lesson one day, and i pray nothing but the best for the Petric family.
It is far easier to blame video games than it is to blame the person that pulled the trigger. No parent wants to believe there is anything wrong with their child, including mental illness. Especially back when this tragedy happened.
My mom took me off antidepressants when I was 16 because she was ashamed.
Yep, and in a small town, with him being a pastor, image and reputation are a big thing.
Judge needs to stick to law and leave the mental diagnosis to the professionals
Opinion are like assholes.
Everyone has one and they all stink.
But...we all have the freedom to express them which is a wonderful thing.
He was extremely correct in his analogy. You are simply a child.
@@srjwildcat3589 I think you meant are
@@pennymac2331
Obviously. 👍
@@srjwildcat3589 I thought it might be some weird American saying is all...
Adrian: "His friends and family described him as a normal and happy teenager"
Adrian: [only shows pictures where Daniel looks like he wants to kill you with his dead shark eyes]
Lul. 🦈☠
True he sure has a scary look
Unintentional humor 🤣
😅☠
@@ncubekudzanaicindy7557 I think he looks ill, tired and vacant. Addiction and depressive signs.
Any time you come between someone and their addiction, YOU ARE IN DANGER. Find an indirect approach…
There have been several studies done on children to see, how children who are exposed to violence on a daily basis react to different situations. So far all the study has proven is that it makes the children react less to violent stuff, not that they turn into killing machines.
Being turned into killing machines isn't the end game ,it is that at the end of the day the child has been exposed to reactive behaviour and they sooner rather than later,act! simple
Reacting less means less empathy. Desensitized
@@truth4004 yeah to me it still sounds bad. I feel like very young or immature kids shouldn't play this type of games.
@@JustyMe I mean we've all played these types of games and are fine. If people end up having these problems it might just be a mental problem they have.
On the other hand, experiencing it in real life does something to the child. Like dad beating mom on a daily basis, the child will think they have to do that too, as they'll emulate the father (if it's a boy). And no boy would want to emulate a video-game character.
I'm starting to realize that forgiveness for people like this is a way to disassociate from the terrible truth. Because I don't see how someone could forgive a vile act such as this. This kid is screwed in the head on many levels. And I hope he rots in prison for what he's done.
This is so true tbh I’ve forgiven awful people only for them to go on and do terrible things to me/others. If there’s anything I’ve learned it’s that people don’t change and not everyone deserves forgiveness
His father was a good man and he needed to forgive his son because he gave his life to God
@user-lz7kq8ne9e good for him. But that still doesn't have anything to do with the horrible act his son did. Some things are unforgivable. Sure, hate is bad, but that's most people's way of coping with anything, saying god this or god that. As long as he finds peace, that's fine. But I hope he never forgets the atrocity his son committed. Also, it's STILL a way to dissacate. I'm a Buddhist and every vile thing that's happened to me doesn't revolve around my religion, my mother abused and threatened to kill me, and I will never forgive her for destroying my childhood. Do I hate her? No, but she has to live with the fact of what she did. I didn't blame what happened on my religion or some deity, I faced the cold, harsh truth and grew from it. And that's something a lot of people who are religious don't do. Instead they give all of THEIR accomplishments to a god that allowed those things to happen. And for what? A sick plan? If it was a person, people would say that individual is terrible. Most people can't picture an existence without a deity looming over them and it baffles me. But I try to understand because it's fascinating how many disregard horrible actions and immediately blame it on "the devil" or "god". Shit happens all the time. And rather than face it, even though it's hard, they neglect truths and basic logic.
So again, if that were my family member or a friend or partner, something like that will not be forgiven. He took away a life that did him no wrong.
@Bettersucksaul some do change, but for someone to do this in the first place only reinforces the fact that they had this in them to begin with. I learned the hard way what forgiving vile individuals is like myself, and I agree, they don't change for whatever reason. But mainly because they don't see anything wrong with what they're doing. And that's dangerous in some situations.
I'm not religious in any way, but I find forgiveness for even things as "evil" as this comes easily for me, personally. I've been through some "unforgivable" shit.
But there's a difference between forgiving the dog that bit you out of fear because you understand why it bit you, and trusting the dog not to bite you again until the situation has changed (it's no longer a frightening situation), the offender has changed (the dog is no longer afraid of you) or you've grown as an individual yourself (you've learned to calm the dog and make it feel safe before approaching).
I played violent video games growing up, and was bullied every single day until I got to high school. I never once thought about using violence to hurt another person. I don’t know why. I have thought on why, but my best guess is that I grew up in a loving and supportive household.
Get higher
probably because you were too weak to fight back thanks to the underdevelopment caused by sitting in one spot for thousands of hours and moving nothing except your fingers while eating purely junk food and drowning in soda/beer
@@saturationstation1446hi troll 🧌
@@saturationstation1446 when I was in middle school?
@@saturationstation1446 drinking beer and playing games all day when he was in middle school...? And he still had time to go to school to get bullied?
"Whatever the plan was, Daniel would never get the chance to play Halo 3 again."
Am I the only one who finds it even more horrifying when there hasn't been a history of violent behavior? Like, that person went from 0 to 10000 out of nowhere and because of basically nothing?
There is a theory that you are born a sociopath and nothing can be done against it except put you out of your misery so you don't take anyone else with you.
You dont need a history of violence to become a killer. Today, you're the most humble person on Earth, tomorrow you're on a spree killing. Just like that.
The scariest psychopaths are the ones who are smart enough to keep their plans to themselves
None of us know if he had a history bc all we have is word of mouth regarding his home situation and him as a person. But honestly he was a teen when this happened, even if he wasn’t violent then he had plenty of time to start
@@AlexVardr Sociopathy is highly correlated with trauma , poverty, and abuse from a young age. Honestly same thing with psychopathy but that one seems to also have genetic links
My dad is a gamer so my sister and I grew up playing video games, even GTA at a young age and we aren't violent at all. I definitely think it depends on the individual and so many other factors in their life and the video games aren't to blame.
And our favorite thing to do on GTA was to run people over to steal their money, wait for the ambulance to arrive so we could steal it and do missions then run over more people over and over to wrack up as much money as possible before getting caught. 😆
There's just certain personalities that get more addicted than others. This kid had issues to begin with and adding the hours upon hours of gaming didn't help with his mental health. I've been a gamer since the arcade games in the 80's but we had a certain time we had to be home and the games stayed at the arcade. We got the first Atari system but the discipline playing at an arcade stayed with us. This kid had a serious addiction and I've seen so many of these kids killing parents over phones it's definitely a correlation to that 24/7 usage. I saw a video just a couple of weeks ago that showed a kid beating the shit out of his teacher for taking his phone. It's not the game itself, it's being online and never turning your brain off that's become the problem.
@@kimberlyhood4095 I agree! It definitely depends on the person and on their mindset at the time as well!
yeah my brother and I played cops and robbers on need for speed 2 and I'm not driving around looking for police chases
Idk man your whole family might be psychopaths
May I suggest the case of Cody Barnoski? I went to high school with him and he murdered his own mom. He continued going to school during the week she was "missing". He recently got out on parole as he killed her when he was 14.
So let me get this right instead of getting him help for his obvious issues, they threatened to kick him out as a teenager? What the heck. The parents filled him very much.
It sucks that the mom had to die for the father and son to make amends. Poor mom.
And why did he shoot his Mum 3 times when his beef was with his Dad?
@@TubularBelles
Ngl that's what confused me too
i wouldn't put it quite like that but ya
Things video games have influenced me to do:
- make art
- tell stories
- take classes
- watch birds
- make new friends
- find a partner
Things video games have NOT influenced me to do:
-violence
Also thing video games have influenced me to do: pet dogs. Many, many times over
CONTENT dear. You don't understand the problem? Not all video games are good. And many things called game shouldn't be considered game due to malicious content that can't bring meaning of "gaming" but just destroying psyche.
@@SamuraiSx19 ok
@@kinsan89 I added cats to skyrim so i can make make my character pet the cats, lol. Then I go find my cat and pet her, lmao.
@@xladyfayre truly "malicious" content, how dare you /s
it’s strange to blame video games for violence to me I grew up in one of the top ten violent cities in the US and don’t do these things I kind of never understood the correlation it’s giving displacement
This same song and dance has been happening since the early '90s and literal science has proven that video games do not cause violence.
Took the words right out of my mouth. I was thinking in my head, if you can survive here(Baltimore) you can make it anywhere lol
Mortal Kombat players would be some of the most violent serial murderers on earth.
@@ladynikkie It’s a convenient excuse for bad parenting.
@@richardvinsen2385 bad parenting and a lot of lead exposure… which causes bad parenting coincidentally 🤔
There's something about him that ain't right.
You can see it in him more now that he's older.
Gives me chills.
Agree
There's a void behind his eyes
Wow. The dad forgiving his son for this is immense.
Stupid, you mean stupid.
That’s Christianity for you, I think. Forgiveness is *big* for them
@@aromaladyellie well, for the real Christians yes.
And also, it's just a good idea mental health wise.
Holding onto anger and resentment = stress and yeah
@Ellie F forgiveness is not exclusively Christian. And neither is Christianity reserved to only forgiving.
@Bilaal Ahmed Christianity was brought up, because the father was a Protestant minister; that's the relevance.
Been playing violent games, DND, and listen to rock music my whole life. Not once did I think of doing anything like this. And I'm sorry, this kids tears didn't move me.
Bro in highschool when I was talking with a friend about Skyrim, a teacher overheard me. I was talking about one of the weapons, and the teacher thought I was gonna bring a knife to school or start a fire 😂. She was Christian too, and a lot of Christians (the overzealous ones) hate video games lol. That probably explains her reaction.
Absolutely the kid was cooked from birth
@@wandarask8444 Yeah if someone becomes violent "because" of a video game, it's them that's the problem not the game. Like how many gamers are out there, hundreds of millions? And 0.01% of them might kill someone because they're inherently evil. I've been playing horror games since I was a kid, and first person shooters, but I've never thought of killing someone.
me too been gaming like since pre elementary school and 30s now still playing with violence video game what judge said is nonsense
@@E2otic Yeah it's the addiction itself that's the problem, not the game. Say that he was instead addicted to something else, and his dad locked that in the safe. Outcome would've been the same.
I remember my parents threw out my D&D books and accessories when I was a teen because they ran some news segments about the evil of it on TV. I never considered harming my parents. People do evil things---because they are evil.
Evil is totally subjective. Honestly, people sometimes can't control their anger and lack impulse control resulted in this. The blaming of video games comes off as a con for shucksters and grifters, played on the news to get numbers. It's like how they're dying to get a honest-to-God real person and event they can even point to about White Supremests' threat to everything good, etc. in a halfway believable way for the NPCs, so bad that they're willing to try to force round-shaped scenarios into square-shaped narratives. The Truth is, people kill for any and every reason imaginable, in the 3rd world, where right now and influx of people came from and are constantly entering the United States, as it's politicians on both sides that have sold them out and left the door wide open while they took a nap in their room that was double locked (which has it's own fridge, sink, bathroom and bath, luxuries, etc). If video games were the underlying cause, or even just one of the causes, it would've been so common as to be evident the videogames were responsible in some way, I'd imagine. Anything is possible, but if it were so I'd think you'd be seeing every day. Some guy in FL just killed his dad, mom and one of two brothers over a argument involving his spending the families savings on a video chat girl in some Eastern European Shady-Ass Place and him still calling her. I'm pretty sure someone one killed someone over Chicken McNuggets at some point in history. The TV will often be the first to tell you the Zebra Challenge Version of the Truth.
On your folks throwing out your AD&D, I had something similar happen at around 15 in which they threw out all of my CDs and some shirts because they were black. I was super upset, and I didn't kill everyone. The fact that they considered that like it was something I would want to do, and that they went for the easy, knee-jerk reaction without going for insight into what I was actually into and listening to and putting in my mind and why, or what I thought about all of it. It was just "we think you're going down a bad path, etc". When you were born as a accidental mistake it becomes fairly evident pretty quickly, if not even as a subliminal, forever-impression, deep, deep in the lizard part of the brain.
Remember to always care for the things you really love in a way in which shows how important they are to you, if not just out of respect but to reinforce a realistic view of how someone feels about them. Especially in this New World.
Exactly mine tossed out some parental advisory CD's I had as a teenager but never thought about harming her.
I had my Xbox taken away once when I was a kid. I also managed not to kill my parents and try to frame my siblings for the murder.
The issue here is addiction. He had a strong addition to the video game. And there is plenty of scientific research on addiction showing a strong relationship with violence. Plenty of scientific researching showing that you can be addicted to things like video games. Saying people do evil things because they are evil is like saying drunk people do stupid things because they are stupid. You are ignoring the scientific evidence that alcohol impairs judgment.
Congrats, you have basic morality. What else do you need attention for?
This is one of the most painful stories I have heard. I cannot begin to imagine what the father felt waking up from the coma and learning the news of why he was "here". Even harder to imagine the perspective of a dad who actually cares about his family and had good intentions for his son.
I can't believe how bad the judge was "he thought his parents were gonna respawn". And at that moment the criminal is thinking "wow this judge is dumb, I'm gonna get away with this".
Yes, exactly. People are so quick to say "oh, that person's just crazy", or something comparable, completely removing the personal responsibility of the individual.
Judge was absolutely correct! A stupid ass video game killed his mother! Come on people!
@@trump-il5wn You're the type to say "guns don't kill people." I agree, they don't. Neither do video games. All empirical evidence suggests zero correlation between violent crime and violent video games. But something tells me you're not a fan of any science other than perhaps the "pseudo" variety.
LMAO, bruh
@trump-il5wn only an idiot would believe a video game (either the disc or the machine itself) picked up a gun and fired it, lol
The kid killed his mother. Was he influenced by the game? Yes. Addiction to anything can make humans do crazy things. Is it the video game's fault? No. Otherwise I'd be in prison too.
I think suffering a spinal injury wrecked his life and his dreams. He gained a sense of satisfaction from games, but we all know that satisfaction is fleeting(speaking as an avid gamer) So in his likely depressive state, having the one thing that gave him a pale reflection of the satisfaction of competition taken away, if you noticed his sports pictures, he likely felt crushed, hopeless, and worthless, which I suppose could send him into a psychotic episode.
I agree.
Agree. Not eveyone that is injured, becomes depressed and addicted to a game can murder someone, but for some that could be the recipe
If you look at his eyes it can be seen that he potentially had mental problems. Face reading from Japanese criminology should be added to courses for school teachers and parents so they can prevent from early age potential brutal behaviours.
My partner had a horrible accident and, similarly, became addicted to videogames. However, once he learned how to walk again he spent the majority of his time regaining his strength and getting back out into the real world. It all depends on your personality and how you handle those negative feelings about yourself.
I watch a lot of crime documentaries and crime youtubers but nobody talks so passionately about the victims as you do adrian. It isnt just performative and i don't feel awful watching your video because you give the victims the value they so clearly deserve. its not just for views and i appreciate that. i often feel guilty watching true crime thinking of it as entertainment but these are real people with grieving families. Thank you for being one of the good ones.
Oi! blobster 😊 too true
Have you watched DREADING Channel? He is also extremely respectful & puts the victims first. He's my favorite but this one's close behind😊
@@livstylerewind i will check it out. thank you!
Millions of people play these video games on a daily basis. Yet death via video game is rare.
There's always an underlying issue.
It should be made legal worldwide for parents to be allowed to force their children into therapy.
As a parent with a troubled teen...i feel helpless to do anything to help as laws stop me from doing anything
The underlying issue was mentioned almost immediately. His religion crazed nut case father told his child son hed kick him out rather than be a fcking loving father and help his sons issues by teaching him moderation in all things
The fact that he tried to frame his dad and attempted to shoot her sister, this monster will do anything just TO GET WHAT HE WANTS.
HE SHOULDN'T BE LET OUT. NEVER
He was addicted, and when the object of his obsession was threatened he lost his mind. Addiction is obsession.
The boy is evil. How could he tell his parent's to close their eyes to give them surprise then shot them? He knew what he was doing and he's a threat to the society
It astounds me that a parent can forgive such a horrific act from their child but at the same time, refuse to listen and understand why the child wanted/needed to do something in the first place.
Agreed. While I am astounded his father is able to forgive and wants to keep a relationship with his son, my experience in detention and corrections tells me this young man should NEVER be released back into the world. His body language and the tears appear (to me) calculated and intentional. Terrible actions have terrible consequences - he should live with that behind bars until the very end.
absolutely!
I'm sure he listened and understood. But rules are his to enforce as the parent.
I do think they listened to him. But somethings are rules and honestly I don't really think they were extreme. Extreme enough that the son would try killing someone.
Because Jesus would forgive everyone, the dad Is a hero!
Blaming video games for violence is like blaming hot wheels for vehicular crimes.
Releasing that monster would be a huge mistake. He learned absolutely nothing,everyone gave him an excuse. Instead of acknowledging his severe mental health issues. He is a narcissist that only cared and only still cares about only himself. He got caught, but he was trying to set his dad up.He has no regret for his actions, only that he got caught. He only thinks about what he lost,like a psychopath, instead of what he took from others.He is defective and is in the right place
Wow this guy must be a real certified detective huh? 😂😂😂 idiot his parents let him hide in his room all day playing games. They didn’t care to get him to do something more positive and progressive. Learn how to think logically before speaking
So you know him?
@@robd8713it doesn't take much to realize he's a narcissists. He did things that makes him happy and makes everything about himself
I swear "narcissist" in the new Buzz word y'all will literally call EVERYBODY a damn narcissist shut the hell up already 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@MorganRimming soooo...narcissist dont exist???
I think Daniel’s accident placed him in a physical and mentally painful state of mind. He needed a way to cope and turned to gaming as a means to survive. When his parents threatened to take away the only thing that was helping him survive the pain, Daniel turned to violence.
Unfortunately their reliance on religion meant they didn't consider he should probably seek therapy after something traumatic.
Both of you took the words right out of my mouth.
Emotional Pain doesn't justify his actions. I feel safe knowing this kid is behind bars
@@sussychachi no one is justifying anything. It's just the context of what happened, because it definitely wasn't because video games makes a person violent
@@KatherineLaura6564 this boy was entitled he even tried to lie and say it was his father because he thought he wouldn’t make it. There are children in warring countries, children that are being abused as we speak and they don’t go round killing their parents. That boy had no worries or struggles in life to do what he did. So what his parents were hard on him they were just trying to raise him with morals and discipline
The father is a very honourable man. I don't think I would ever be able to forgive him.
I don't think it's "honorable" to forgive his son. If anything, it's disrespectful to the mother.
@@WeedIsVegan Agreed. Rabid animals should be put down, not forgiven.
To be fair, none of us here know the kid. I wouldn’t be inclined to forgive him either but I don’t think it’s a wrong choice.
@Sky L I agree with everything you said except being shocked by a Christian keeping their word; obviously this is an extreme test of the dad “keeping his word” and not saying I would be able to forgive in the same situation but I have found Christians to be no worse than any other belief or religion for being hypocritical.
Christians don’t (or shouldn’t) claim to be perfect; the root of Christianity is that we as humans are all flawed as sinners but can be redeemed only through Christ so unfortunately that means at times Christians can and will be hypocritical.
@@WeedIsVegan Unforgiveness eats you alive from the inside, and spews forth in bitterness towards everyone and everything in your life. No, it is better to forgive, live and be free from bitterness.
The fact that parents and everyone don’t know how to treat addictions is just wild.
It was a very different time. Mental health was still very taboo, addiction was an embarrassment for people. A lot has changed between now and then. Getting help isn’t looked at the same way as it was then.
i grew up playing video games, and continued into my adult life. it never once made me consider violence, and when i was young, i never had violent thoughts if they were taken away.
i also wrote a paper in college about how video games DONT cause violence. bc they simply don’t:). also, hey a fellow ex WoW player!
I've considered violence MANY times... But not because of video games. The opposite rather. If I'm pissed I'd try to play video games to cool off rather than do something of it.
I considered violence after playing videogames...
Specifically trying martial arts irl after making top 8 in a Street Fighter tournament at a local con. So you can say that Street Fighter objectively and measurably improved my life
i played video games and im writing this from prison, we are playing video games in prison, I'm trying get pregnant but both of my legs are part of the moon hologram
Great comment, video games are not the cause of this. I grew up playing video games my self, and Resident Evil was my absolute favorite. No matter how many times I was grounded from my console, nothing like this ever entered my mind.
@@kingsadvisor18 Which martial art did you do?
I am one year older than Daniel here. In 2007 I was also addicted to an online video game. That was the time when all boys are playing so many online games.
Every weekend I spent the whole day going to an internet cafe and play with my friends. I also spent quite a number of hour using my home phone for a dial up internet.
But I still have the responsibility to be a student. I got the first rank in my class 😊. I am doing my PhD at the moment.
Video game does not equal to bad school life.
This isn't about gaming or guns, it's about control and addiction. This case was a power struggle that escalated to unimaginable heights (depths?). I played Halo 3 around this time and wonder if I played against this kid. Lastly, his father's testimony asking for leniency was touching.
As somebody who grew up (and still is) Catholic, I had very similar parents. They didn’t much approve of the violent video games. But thankfully our circumstances didn’t bring out such a dark turnout. I was able to play Halo and Call of Duty as well once I was about the same age. All they asked is that I don’t swear or cuss around them while playing it and to be careful when talking to people online. I was very aware of the online risk, and I never NOT ONCE when playing these FPS games did I think about killing anybody in real life. Sure I would get grounded and wasn’t allowed to play my games for a while, but I never hated my parents for it. I even did start playing GTA5 when I turned 18, and I was still living with my parents, and they knew I was playing it. It was all about trust and having the knowledge of how to balance it properly.
Video games do not make people violent. Addiction and obsession makes people violent. Learn to control your urges and know your boundaries. Exercise self-control and such dark situations won’t likely happen.
Wow you got to play GTA as an adult what trusting parents.
When the judge starts talking about the "effects of video games on the brain" you can tell he's shooting from the hip with as many words he's heard from psychologists in a courtroom over the years that he can remember.
I agree. That was a bunch of weak nonsense
@@gaylebynumcardosa7034ow many cases are there of gamers killing people? Since gaming is so massive I’m sure there are thousands right or millions?
@@gaylebynumcardosa7034 Videogames should not be blamed for anything. A mentally messed up person is to blame.
@@gaylebynumcardosa7034 My apologies. Also, I first thought your profile pic was an anime woman but on closer inspection it is a real beautiful woman lol. Also your name is badass. Have a good weekend!
@@gaylebynumcardosa7034 ❤
I want to say that video games are 100% an addiction for some. I say this because IVe literally witnessed my husband and his addiction to them and it’s scary.
Did your husband get help?
sadly anything can become an addiction balance is important.
Addiction is a scary thing. It turns you into all the things you swore you'd never be, and makes you do things you wish you never thought of.
Does watching series about cheating inspire cheating in itself? Does watching videos about true crime inspire performing true crime in itself? I mean, we are all human and can be motivated in certain ways. But that doesn't mean we are changing our morality based on the media we consume. Thank you Adrian for another video! Great content as ever.
"Dad, i miss my mom."
"No Son, you didnt missd her."
People who commit crimes like that has already underlying issues, outside sources like video games or tv series probably fueled those issues BUT they are never the cause. With people like this kid, anything can trigger him. Millions of people play violent games, how many of them commit heinous crimes? It's never the games, it's the person itself.
Big gaming got to you to! Video games are a disease! Save your soul! Turn to CHrist!
@@jsdldfsfsdf lol coming from someone who believes in a person who "supposedly" perform miracles and will save you from some imaginary evil makes. Ridiculous. It's the addiction, not the games itself. Anyone who can't get a fix of their addiction can do crazy things. Spare me with that Christian bs.
@@strawberrycoon5382 Honestly what @jsdldfsfsdf said sounds like a meme to me. "Big gaming" just makes it so obvious.
@@AquaHedgehog oops sorry, it's hard to tell with Christians. I legit got told by one that I'm going to hell because I'm into kpop and kpop is the instrument of evil lol
Completely agree, the one thing his dad forgot to mention is yes God is a God of love and forgiveness . But God also gave us his creation made in his image, free will . And regardless of a video game, Daniel with his free will chose to shoot his parents. The devil might whisper a idea but it is completely your choice to listen or denie that dark idea.
I bet he has no remorse! Especially since he tried framing his Dad! Just pure evil! There is no forgiveness for murder! I’m sure he misses his freedom!
The dad did it and framed Daniel. The giant rabbit hole I went down brought me to this video.
@@zackhickey4922 He was shot in the head. How does that work?
@@zackhickey4922 clown comment
Some psychos actually don't mind and revel in the 'glory'
I worked at GameStop back in 2015. I met a woman who went from being addicted to meth to addicted to Skyrim. She said she played with her kids and it brought her family together. I hope she’s doing well.
I’ve played video war games/ assassin games for decades, not once have I even considered killing anyone in real life. Sane people know the difference between the gaming world and real life ! This boy/man had murder in mind because he couldn’t have his own way , he was already evil !
Same. I went from playing oblivion when I was 7 years old, to battlefield games when I was 14-16. Since then played a huge number of diverse games, shadow of Mordor, shadow of war, assassin Creed games, MMOs, dishonored, sniper games, hitman, to now with star wars game, assassin's creed mirage and destiny 2. Not once has killing someone entered my mind, and it never will.
It’s so sad to me when I heard his sister say how he shot their parents. 😢 I hope she and the dad is doing well today.
As many in the comments have mentioned, video games don't make you violent and also, I played them growing up too like many have mentioned. I was addicted to GTA San Andreas and my mum hated it because of the violence, but it never occurred to me to do something I've done in the game in real life. I think that it just comes down to common sense and having some degree of emotional maturity/empathy. I feel like the people who play violent games and commit heinous crimes, are just psychopaths.
I grew up with a much older brother so I played with him games like GTA at an age it certainly wouldn’t be recommonded and yet I’m a very non-violent person… So, I agree that such games don’t turn you into a murderer. I think addiction and some serious mental health issue in general can though. :/
Agree ! And do it again if they are under stress . There should be a database where you can look up witch convictions someone has had . These people are dangerous . Specially for partners .
i love tons of v10l3nt games and have had issues with my (now late) mom and dad, but i never k1ll3d them or hurt them.
When I was playing GTA all-too regularly, I went out for a drive while I was a bit short on sleep. While frustrated, I made an illegal u-turn and spanked the curb head on. Knocked the vehicle’s front end completely out of alignment and bent the hubcap.
I asked myself later how I could drive that badly or do something so stupid. And the answer was, without question, that the curb didn’t seem like as big of a deal to me, because I was used to just driving over curbs in GTA.
That isn’t a hypothesis. That is a FACT.
@@joen8529 no amount of copypasta is going to make you sound believable Joe
Daniel's access to a gun was infinitely more relevant to what happened here than the video game connection, since guns have the capacity to turn bad moods, sleep deprivation and rebelliousness into tragedies.
But with the mindset of finding the Key
*tragedies
Yhea the irony is that the bible causes way, way more violence and death than any video games.
I was thinking this too as I listened to the story. He searched and searched to find the key, opened the safe, and there was his game *and* a gun. What if he opened the safe and there was just his game in there, but no gun? Would he still go to the effort to figure out another way to try to murder his parents, or would he simply go play Halo some more?
@@Poeticfloetic Thanks! Corrected.
Ridiculous. He knew they were not going to "respawn" the next day. He just didnt like being told no.
It made me so angry that he said 'Dad, I miss mom' It's was still all about him. And what he was feeling.
Great point
He was just being emotionally manipulative when he said that. I doubt he misses his parent, he misses being able to do whatever he wants to do, which is why he tried to kill them in the first place. I usually think prison isn't a good enough punishment for criminals, but here it fits perfect. You killed a parent because they wouldn't let you do what you want? Well spend half your life in a building where your life is centered around a schedule you have no control over. It's perfect.
@@Death-999 exactly
Yep
@@Death-999Prison really isn’t that bad. They’re confined, but they still get TV, socializing with friends, and the gift of life. It’s not what they put on TV.
I think the exact same thing would have happened if it was a non-violent video game, a toy, a bike, a phone, anything that Daniel wanted that was taken away.
So, you don't think that it desensitized him to the idea of violent behavior at all? I remember as a little kid, if I even saw a cartoon character punch another, I would be so surprised and I would think it was so bad but if you are playing a video game where you think of the idea of someone getting shot and killed constantly and see fake blood, then can't you see how you could become desensitized to the idea of killing? Especially if you already have a weak moral foundation. The more you think about killing, the less bad it becomes to you. Also, you don't think a video game about using weapons could teach kids how to use them and get them well prepared if the time comes that they want to do something like that? You know, I think we should be more accountable for the influence that we have on children.
@@joshuayoukai4790 I do not think it desensitized him to the idea of violent behavior at all. How many people watch violent movies, read violent books, and play violent games, and still understand that real life doesn't work that way? This was someone who was already broken.
@@joshuayoukai4790 sure because super soldiers who kill bands of martians are a thing that exists. Why do people think kids are stupid and can't separate fantasy from reality.
@@joshuayoukai4790 I can only speak for me but I have played all the games and am not at all desensitized to real world violence or gore. I abhor it. The game world isn't real and has no correlation to the real world, it's like a movie, or even like reading a book. Anyone who is remotely 'typical' mentally has no problems differentiating between the two.
In halo you aren't even shooting at humans, and there is little gore if any. It could have been a my little ponies DVD and had the same result. The kid killed his parents because he didn't want to be under their control and because he has a mental defect that allows murderous behavior.
@@piperbird7193 I'm not saying that people don't understand that it is not like real life. My point was that someone who already has violent thoughts is someone susceptible to desensitization of violence through the constant thoughts and fantasies in their mind that can be perpetuated by this kind of entertainment, whether it be in movies, books or games. Down the line, kids are being taught to solve their problems with violence and the countries that have tough regulations on what they are allowed to show children, like Japan for instance, are much safer than countries like America that help perpetuate violence by their rhetoric and media daily. I don't think these statistics are a coincidence. Though there is no direct coorelation, a coorelation can be made between a country, state or city that has violence instituted in thier media and the overall violence of the region.
Thank you for covering this, Adrian. Gaming addiction is a legitimate psychological condition. The content of the games are not recognized in the Psych community. As you said, if violence in video games really caused people to go crazy and kill people, there would be a WHOLE lot more people murdering others and "thinking the victims will respawn." Like, maybe if you have a screw loose, but Daniel knew what he was doing. He was clearly impulsive and mad, but he knew what he was doing.
There are alot more murders, school shooting after school shooting after school shooting. And yes, he knew exactly what he was doing.
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I see your point about more school sh@@tings, but they aren't necessarily video game related.
We have a LOT more kids in the world today and they face a plethora of issues that can cause a LOT more psychological issues that can result in violence.
A common denominator in a lot of those incidents correlate with being bullied.
Unfortunately, some kids end up "ending" themselves, or participate in self destructive behavior like drinking and drugs, and some kids seek revenge by harming others who they believe have wronged them.
Some kids have psychological issues to start with and they don't even have to have a "reason" for harming others.
If it was all about violent video games just imagine how many kids would be committing those types of crimes.
Almost every single kid in America is playing those types of video games.
Yep. People forget that anything can be addicting, due to psychological addiction. Even if it isn't physically addicting.
The irony of being against a “violent game” and storing it next to a gun…
I will never understand why parents aren't comfortable with their kids playing with video games guns but are perfectly fine with them having real guns in their house.
Agree 💯 per cent. We British don't allow guns and rightfully so.
The Judge is just a bit weird
Adults can have guns in their house they are an adult, and licensed. Period.
@@fionagregory9147 but you allow your police force guns? So what happens if a guy comes into your house to rape and murder your wife/sister or mother? You gonna what defend yourself by grabbing the phone? Lol you all will be dead by the time the police show up.
@@Rubycella spot the gun lover who blames video games. classic.
i remember this case, and it was one of those that everyone said there were no outward signs apart from his obsession with a game, he was mad that it was taken away, and by taking it away, his parents thought they were doing a favour. but his obsession and outlet went too deep for them to realise he needed help
games are designed to be addictive, especially for young minds. you'd be incredibly naive to think anything is done in this system for good reasons or with the intention of improving quality of life for everyone. like, you have to ignore all the history of eurocentric culture to think anything we do is for any reason other than consolidating wealtth and power into europe.
@@saturationstation1446 No not every game is a ripoff or wants to drain you of your bank account or is built around addicting mechanics. Sure there are many, especially as a phone app, but saying "every game is just made to make you addicted" is as stupid as some politicians still lamenting over "killer games".
"He regained his health, then eventually, his strength." is so beautifully written. It made me think about the difference between the two, as they're commonly used interchangeably.
Thanks for another great case!
What gets overlooked: He suffered a spinal injury. And he was on meds for it. Considering the spinal is essentially the central network for the body (including the brain), its fair to wonder if the injury combined with the meds led to a deterioration in his rationale. He literally could have taken the game and left and instead he almost committed quadruple-murder.
if you look at some of the photos they kind of paint a dfferent story from the "outgoing happy teenager" they portray him as...id be willing to be he likely had anger problems from the start or was more unhappy than what we are led to believe
Excuses 😊
..what the...?🤦... your SPINE is not your brain! it play ZERO role in cognition! damaging it does nothing towards altering thoughts!! ...LOL...😂 the meds however might. But those are same meds given to millions of other patients. SO NO, spinal injury itself doesn't alter thoughts, it's NOT A BRAIN INJURY... pls leave the biology alone for those of knowledge.
...a spinal injury IS NOT A BRAIN INJURY!! there is no altered cognition from spinal injuries 🤦 ... kindly leave the biology for those with ACTUAL knowledge.
...and don't blame the meds either. Those same meds are given to millions of other ppl too. So again leave the biology/pharmacology to those with ACTUAL knowledge. 🤦
I have played video games my entire life. Not once have I thought that violence was the answer to my teen problems. It depends on the factors of other things. Some are mentally capable to murder while others like me get upset seeing people hurt. Video games are not the issue...it is the lack of mental health support in the US.
@@KatherineLaura6564 In a study of convicted murderers, 25% were found to be schizophrenics with a religious fixation. In general, secular countries are less violent than religious ones. That's not an opinion, so draw your own conclusions.
@@KatherineLaura6564 see I disagree. Yes some are bad but not every child with religious parents go out to kill. I grew up in church my whole childhood and was abused at home and still did not go out and kill them. He had the personality to kill.
The shameless media and Politicians love to blame violent games. Yet they say nothing about violent books, tvs or movies. Also they have ratings for reason if you are a parent and you bought lil Timmy GTA, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. I hate how they use people's tragedy to push this crap. Keep up the good work Coffeehouse 👍
It's obvious it's all to blame, period. Desensitizing violence in video games and movies ect causes a person to be desensitized to it also.
Books, TV and movies aren't interactive, they don't immerse the person in an alternative reality. If you cannot see the difference, I pity you.
@@Rubycella You know what's actually causing people to be shot? GUNS. Never once has a video game player killed their parents in my country. Not even once. Especially over a video game. You babbling "pEriOd" doesn't change the fact that it wasn't the video game. The boy is mentally very ill. THAT's what caused him to shoot his parents.
@@AtomicExtremophile Books, tv, and movies aren’t interactive (unless you get a choose your own ending version, which do exist), true, but you’ve got to have no imagination if you say they can’t immerse someone. That’s the point of such media. They’re an escape from reality. For a short time, you can experience what others experience through those mediums. I feel bad for you if you can’t enjoy one, or all, of those three without immersing yourself in them.
@I Don't Read Replies I can see the difference, however people still tend to act out on things they see or hear and use it as an excuse. Nobody brings up how people get into fights and destroy things at ball games. Sometimes regardless of if their team wins or losses.
Such a weird case. Daniel definitely has issues. I also hated that they basically blamed the parents, for giving him a game system. Like no, that's not how that works. "He misses everything about being free"; well dude you should have thought of that before you tried to kill your parents.
Not that it makes the situation less bad, but it's amazing that his father survived a gunshot to the head, that's very rare.
As a school librarian as well as a young parent and retired kid (j.k), this is what i feel like about parenting and gaming.
Banning your kids from getting what they want only make them want that thing more. (Daniel friend, who let him live with, didn't end up murdering his whole family, most of the gamers didn't end up as murderer). And kid always find the way to get what they want, you take away your ability to control it.
Harsh punishment without a solid communication only worse the relationship between you and the kid. Punish them, but find the middle ground between them and you. It's important to show them your opinion as well as listening to their opinion, be their friend, not their enemy... And yeah, you can't force your ideology on them.
Don't ever chase your kid out of the house... Just don't. They may be getting cold feet and choose to obedience, but it left them a scar on their mind, remind them that you are willing to be their stranger or even, for you, they are just a stranger inside your house.
Imagine being so angry that your parents said no, that you kill your only chance at a happy and supported life. Truly evil
I grew up playing Halo, Saints Row, and Skyrim, and I never once did anything violent because of them. My philosophy is if Cooking Mama doesn’t make you a chef, then GTA doesn’t make you a killer. It’s an addiction to gaming or preexisting mental illness that does it.
I'm not against such games at all.. I've played "ego shooters" in my teen years..
But your example is simply an anecdote.. Every person can get influenced differently by video games. In some it may trigger the decision to commit a crime.
But yeah, games can't be blamed generally...
He could "seek absolute justice" for his wife or "salvage" his relationship with his killer son. Boy how did I know he'd choose the psycho boy..? Big shocker.
I don’t know if this is intentional but the ads on your videos always seem perfectly placed to create little cliffhangers. It’s great. Love watching your videos, not everyone tells crime stories well but your videos are pretty addicting.
I had a lot of heated debates with my parent over video games as a teen. I even ran away from home because I got banned from going to play video games at a friends house. My dad picked me up and took me home of course. There were times when things got BAD. Never once did the idea or thought of harming either of my parents come into my mind, even when insane and aggressive arguments happened. It just simply never occurred to me to hurt anyone. Nor did I ever want anyone to be hurt. I just wanted to play games non-stop and be left alone but my parents were like a barrier, not something to hurt. Yes, video game dopamine rushes are addictive, especially for a teenagers mind, but never in the world would it lead to murder or harm from playing. This kid was just a sociopath.
You sound like an addict. Dont do drugs
Wow, what a pathetic man to be that upset over not being able to play a video game that isn't really doing anytng positive for your growth.
I agree playing violent videogames can be very addictive but that doesn't mean they can harm their parents
theres plenty of science to back up the judges opinions on video gaming being addictive in excess because of releasing dopamine in your brain.' The reward center in the brain releases dopamine in response to a pleasurable experience or hyperarousal. If a person experiences hyperarousal while playing video games, the brain associates the activity with dopamine. The person develops a strong drive to seek out that same pleasure again and again.'(1 Jul 2022)
I think that Daniel was just mad with his parents for not allowing to do whatever he wanted. Typical teenage/parent relationship but not the typical result. Most teenagers grow up and get to do their own thing, eventually! This is a sad story!
Luckily it’s not that typical. When my mom punished me I didn’t kill her.
When you said "mum I'm sorry" that melted me to pieces. As a single mother with very minimal moral support, i feel the hardest part of my role to my children is trying to figure out how to define morality in a world that has very little. My biggest fear is not protecting them from their own decision making. thank you for your reflections and insight.
Understand completely! It's hard. And we just want our kids to be happy and safe.
I'm a mother and tho I understand where you are coming from your use of "in a world that has very little" is gross. If you think about reality, the people you know, *most* of them, are *mostly* moral. It's true for *most* of us. There isn't a lack of morality, it's just not getting as many views. That's on us, the viewers and parents. Show your children the VAST morality please 💓💓💓💓
@Barbi Incognito I'm showing them as much morality and humility as i can, even when I'm scolded for it by the nose ups around me. I've never said those words in front of my children before and always try my best to show them the positive in anything, even when my daughter is bullied and tormented i still find a way to spin it into something she can grow from. Yes a lot of people have a good moral compass but my viewpoint comes from a harsh and painful reality I've never been able to escape. And no matter how hard i tried to protect my kids from the kind of people who tore my life apart, i couldn't. How was i supposed to know dangerous people are all ober our family and neighborhood. This world isn't what it used to be there are more liars manipulators and deviants are all around us, my own neighborhood has 8 sex offenders my kids can't even walk from the bus like i did growing up. if we don't stay vigilant as well as hopeful there could be just as much problems. Everything has to have a balance good or bad. I will always show my kids how to be hopeful and empathetic but I'll be damned if something ever happened to them like the things that happened to me because they were ignorant to the dangers around them. Just because a rose has thorns doesn't mean its not still beautiful, but the beauty doesn't make it harmless either.