Don’t Make These 3 Service Mistakes
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- Here we’re taking a look at 3 common mistakes when serving. We’ll look at and talk about these errors but crucially explore how to avoid them.
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2:56 I think this question is a little more complex than it appears at first.
For me the main factor is if i find exactly one weakness or more than one.
If you find more than one weakness you need to determine if it's a technical weakness (for example they struggle to return short topspin serves to the backhand) or a weakness in reading one specific set of serves. If it's a technical weakness, just treat it as one, even though they might struggle with multiple serves like it. If you still find multiple weaknesses, then hammer one of them relentlessly and keep at least one in reserve in case it is 9:9 or dues. Thats a simple and obvious solution right there.
However, if you find only one weakness the answer depends on your evaluation of your opponent. If you think your opponent is gonna learn to fix this weakness within the first, or latest second, set of your game, then i would lean more towards hiding it for difficult spots (if your game is even otherwise). If you think you can make points with it the whole game then go and hammes that serve as much as you can. Also if you are the underdog by a significant enough margine, or you struggle with that playing style, then again hammer that weakness as much as you can. Maybe you can turn the match around by these means. If you are the favourite by a significant margine AND hitting that weakness poses a risk of a service error thats too high (beeing 5-10%) then try to play it safe, as you like will win the match anyways, plus you can wiggle out of a difficult spot with it - if it arises.
One more thing i like to give as advise to players trying to up their service game:
Try to learn about 2-3 different after motions to disguise the same service. Some players really struggle with one, but can read another really well. So having a different aftermotion might cause some problems by itself without you having to learn a new serve alltogether.
As an example i can speak of my pendulum serve:
If i serve, one of my motions is to start with my racket in a backspin swing and then as an after motion just show the face of my racket to my opponent. So I disguise the spin with the timing of when i hit the ball (early for backspin, later for topspin). A different motion for the same serve would be something Werner Schlager does - or at least similar. You keep the racket more or less completely opened up (as you normally would serve when serving backspin) and for the topspin motion you just pull your wrist towards you at the last moment (just a small pull, nothing huge). This is also a working disguise, but completely different to read. An opponent that sees through my first disguise might not read the second one and vice versa.
After all i am only around 1420 so take this advice with a grain of salt, but in my club I'm known for my dangerous service game. Dont have anything else tho XD
IMO, definitely keep serving the serve that gives your opponent problems. Once your opponent catches on, defer to different serve tactics for a while, then reintroduce the same serve that gave your opponent problems earlier in the match. They will still be wary of that serve and given a long enough break from receiving said serve, the opponent may still struggle again (maybe for not as long) and give up a few more points or weak returns.
Keep doing it and also smiling when they miss
I like this a little too much!!!
Thanks for sharing. Very helpful!
Great advices! Thank you Craig!
If I find a weakness, I would rather play at it during crucial points only. Rest of the match I will focus more on getting the play to my strong points and build the game around this. Use the opponents weakness as a surprise for him. For example if someone has a problem playing long topspin serve on their backhand, I will only use the this serve as a surprise for him and also during crucial points.
A legitimate strategy.
0:39 too much variety
3:19 managing distance
6:23 being too predictable
Thank you! Great video!
Great video... Keep up the good work!
From Portugal, thanks for the video
I'm definitely guilty of using "too much variety" but I'm pretty good at not giving away where my serve is going too, which I think are two related things really. 😊
Thanks for doing this.
Thank you for the great tips! Here are a few suggestions to improve the video: Is it possible to choose a cleaner background in the sports hall? Additionally, it would be helpful to optimize the camera perspectives so that the entire table is clearly visible. Especially when shooting from the center, align the camera straight. Thanks again for your input!
Brilliant videos. Please show how to return the serves. Especially the bat angle for serves with side spin. Thanks
7:26 Oh yeah, but thats a funny one to exploit too. You can do it by looking a few times where you will be serving. If your opponent is an observant player and picks up on that i usually start to look in random directions on the table very consciously and then serve somewhere completely different (in about 20% of the cases the serve should match tho, just to give the illusion of it beeing a giveaway). Thats one of the more evil strategies to employ, but it's insanely effective if you can pull it off
Excellent advice 👍
Thank you for interesting video!
❤nice. i was so lame thinking i have to contact the ball from behind to make a serve at all :)) ill consider your advice nr 2. today as im working on my serves again
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Great Vids, many thanks
Brilliant tips
If I find my opponent not being able to return a certain serve, I wont do it twice in a row. I will use it in one of my two serves maybe, but not in a pattern, so they cant get used to the spin.
Great vid!
Great coverage, mate!
My serve game is actually stronger than my 'game' game. There are times when I think to myself "I could beat this guy with my serves alone." However, if the ball never even gets into play have I really improved? I think not. I have decided to use only about 2 or 3 different serves per game but for a different reason. This allows me to familiarize myself with the return it produces and capitalize upon it (or deal with a good return and have to actually fight and win a point.)
In short, good serves can be useful for quick point but can also become a sort of crutch.
sometimes I fall in the variety trap but it is because of a guy, named Craig, who taught me a lot of serves !
Damn that Craig!
Brilliant vid, and wonderful advice. I've committed all these errors at one time or another in the past.😂😂 ...far more often than I care to admit 🤦
I generally save a serve that the opponent has issues with until I need it. I do vary between short and long. I love crosscourt but vary it with down-the-line. I watch for motion by the opponent as they guess what I will do. Great video. Thank you!
Is it best to save it or is it best to use it as much as possible 🤷🏻♂️?
I'm going with save it versus using it too much@@TheTableTennisServiceGuy
@@TheTableTennisServiceGuyI have been told that if the opponent didn’t like a particular serve then keep doing it as they may never adjust to it during the match.
I was never much at TT (1300 peak), but I found if I had a serve that an opponent struggled with (typically only those near my level or below), I'd exploit it mercilessly. I wanted as many points as I could get. Of course, if you're up 9-3 in a set, it might be best to back off from your best serve, knowing you're likely to win the set anyway with your B or C serves against this opponent whilst avoiding giving them the opportunity to learn the secret of the return. I had one particular opponent who I played repeatedly in matches who was rated a little higher but couldn't figure out my favorite serve. I used that serve to gain ratings points every time I played them. It was fun watching them go "Whoa!" when the ball would go high and wide off their racket repeatedly, or high and on the table for an easy 3rd ball ripper. But then the day came when I faced the same opponent in a tournament and I tried my go-to serve and found it ripping right back at me for a second ball winner. I tried it again, same result. At that point, I was on my own and it was just my slightly inferior game against my opponent's--and I was trounced in straight sets.
When I find a weakness, I'll try to use that in at least 2 different ways. I'll create a pattern so my opponent starts to expect a certain serve (e.g. by positioning himself differently), then I use a one-off different serve so he doesn't find an advantage from that change for the server he expects. Then I go back to the pattern for a few serves.
Excellent strategy 👌
Great stuff, Craig! Would love to see a video on serve deception, your tips for starting to introduce that into your game. I’ve seen your video on the kicker serve, the disguise, 4D chess you play with the opponent between bluffs and double bluffs is very impressive
It’s on the list of things to do 👍
I really love your Videos, please keep them coming ❤
Thank you 😊
@@TheTableTennisServiceGuyhi Craig I’m a situation like 9-7 or say 10-9 what would you serve. I have been guilty or serving too tight like short hook or short reverse but problem is it’s probably serve return that can also be tight by opponent. For some reason I don’t go for top spin serves or long serves in fear it will be attacked but in this situation pressure is on them to return well and a top spin serve it harder to keep tight and also attack would have to be precise and when they are tense can make mistake but I’m guilty at times serving too tight in situations when I’m at 9-7 etc… what would you suggest. My game is very much serve and 3rd ball but for some reason in these situation I seem to serve even shorter than normal and problem is a tight return doesn’t give me a 3rd ball if they keep return short
Hi, very interesting. Variety, distance, place, short or long services .... and aims.
There’s a time when I just did too many variations serves, changing every time and I win. In another time I were regretting this since I also miss a chances of exploiting my opponent’s weakness on certain serves, that could easily gave me 2-3 points.
I guess it depends on what type of opponent that you facing.. slow leaner-fast leaner, beginner- intermediate- advance, etc..
It depends tbh, if it is a tight game, I should rack up the points with exploiting their weaknesses. But in general I have 2 serves that are instant points on a average from 3 out of 5 and the other 2 are if not returned properly a 3th. Ball attack with instant points.. occasionally I do have really problems with pips
I will keep rhat service and mix verity as well.
If I find a weakness, I will serve the same serve until they figure out how to return it. This tactic makes them really nervous and under pressure all the time.
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But you also train them to overcome it so they come back and become stronger opponent!
@@kmyase1it's not like that you should keep scoring points as long as you can with the serve.
@abhishekdutta144 I usually play with opponent's mind and make them work extra hard so that they are on their toes. They get tired easily and you make easy points!
iam also looking out for what i will do with return on my serve, iam looking for at least to keep my opponent under presure after they have returned the serve. I like a smashing winner, so i go for that serve that suits me well... no give aways here!! 😁🏓
Regarding the tell of a server, looking in the direction of where he wants to serve it, I often try to use that as a deceptive technique. I will overlook the corner and then serve to the opposite side. But of course not all the time.
Clever 👍
It depends. If I’m stronger than my opponent or if I have other serves that are effective then I might save that serve for when I need it. If my opponent and I are fairly even and it’s a close match then I’ll keep using that serve
In contrast to your comment I believe variety of services has worked for me that’s why in high level players and experienced players they don’t have obvious weaknesses so if you focus on one kind of services your opponent would be adapted and learn how to respond
My strategy has been playing in two different styles so that opponents dont know what iam gonna do so they always think about it and it makes them loss concentration
I think its better to keep the weakness to crucial points.
About seeing where are you are going to serve hahhaa. Actually, I have won some points seeing where I am going to serve, but I serve to the other side of the table. Sometimes it works really well
Thank you for your comments
I serve from the f/h side (middle of this half) - should I adjust and like most right handers serve from the backhand side/corner? I favour backhand and have a strong loop but do find it difficult to bring my f/h in to play. I think in the past I have avoided serving from the normal spot to protect a weaker f/h.
The problem is, if i am as a player has a problem in serving and another problem in receiving, so whatever i do either variety of serves or just concentrate on one place weakness it won't change much sometimes, it is like i win my two serve points but then lose the opponent's serve points as well, and in the game i lose easily to another shots like smashes or chops or whatever, and i played against well trained opponents while i am not trained at all, so should i play against strong opponents when everyone said they will help to level up your skills or it will just keep you destroyed, even those high and advanced level players i play against struggle against some serves or they miss their serves, but overall they play better tactically and they move better and cover better and make decisions better, in simple words, they were trained to play better not only because of serve, so the question you asked should be more in details like what kind of server level is and what kind of receiver[opponent] level is.
Excelente la forma como enseñas muy preciso y didáctico. Algunos de los tips que das podrían incluir más cámaras lentas a fin de captar más precisión en tus enseñanzas
I’ll try to add in some more slow motion 👍
Gracias por responder te estoy escribiendo desde Perú, un saludo fraterno.
Keep it up💣
Awesome content, you should have at least 50k subscribers. Try to cut a bit of those startings where no information is given.
50k would be nice!
Keep going
Hi Craig, what kind of game style does Hinoki blade support? Who should consider it. Is it absolute a mandate to play with harder rubbers or will I get some advantages if use softer or medium soft rubbers? To answer your question, once I find a weakness, let's say it is a direct serve receive, then I will use it tactically when I need to score a important point. If it is a weaker serve receive then I will deploy it to position myself strongly to score a winning 3rd ball but not always, the motto here is to create a concern such that opponent forgets to focus on his strength. If it is a rally mistake, like a pattern of switching between FH and BH then I will make my opponent play textbook patterns where I am good at and it involved lots of switching between FH and BH.
I don’t think Hinoki wood is made for a particular style. It can depend a lot on what other wood it’s paired with…and then it depends on the types of rubbers also. Sorry, doesn’t really answer your questions but there’s not one answer.
How to serve long with heavy backspin... Would be good to learn..
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For you who are lazy, let me type them here:
1. Too much variety.
2. Managing distance.
3. Being too predictable.
Thank me later. 😌
I think there's one important aspect which is your ability to win a point after the serve. You can keep serving uncomfortable serve and your opponent will keep receiving high balls, but what if you yourself start loosing the opportunity and eg keep coming to the net or outside the table? What should one do about it?)
Practicing attacking awkward (and “easy”) returns is a separate skill that also needs attention 👍
I am in that category
I keep a successful serve in my pocket for repeating it a bit later - but very curious if that is the right tactic. Is milking it as long as possible better? Great video btw!
I don’t think there’s a wrong answer but I do feel as though people don’t try to take advantage enough (we always want to save it). You could be missing out on winning a match 3-0. Worth considering.
im still training as of the moment under coach, he suggested to do the "hidden arsenals" during 8 pts up, clutch situation, and deuces.
What do you mean by ‘hidden arsenals’?
@@TheTableTennisServiceGuy those serves that you never used before reaching 8 pts, by that it mean to give more unpredictability to your incoming serves increasing your chance to win the match.
That’s one strategy for sure 👌
Both are equally good depending on your ability to consistently repeat the serve
Wow, right away I'm making the first mistake. Knowing that much now about how poor my judgment is, I'm guessing that the fact that I save opponents' weaknesses is probably the wrong choice.
Not necessarily wrong (all the time) but is it more effective to take full advantage of a weakness you find, maybe. Worth thinking about.
@@TheTableTennisServiceGuy I have thought about it and although I haven’t changed my behavior yet, I’ve found that saving my strong tactics for critical points puts too much pressure on me to pull through. Thanks for the lesson.
Please make e video on spinny serve receive
Super
sometimes I look to corner and servr there, then i am looking there again and serve other corner.
If I do back spin service, ball doesn't stay on court or come back to net of opponent court. Is it due to medium quality rubber or due to lack of skill.
If you have to ask this question then probably it's the latter (but could be both as well). If you have enough experience and expertise then you'd know if it's you or the rubber so probably it's your technique.
I will rarely serve at a weakness more than once or twice in a row. I think if I just hammer it they have an easier time adjusting and figuring out what to do than if i space it out a little more so they have to think about other serves in between.
If you find something that works the opposition isn't going to go from unable to return to proficient in one match. I've served somebody off for 3 sets in a row with one serve to slightly different places.
Yes, this is a common thing to do but is it the best way. Maybe, maybe not. I know when some figures something out against me that I hope they move away from it. It’s almost worse when they keep doing it, I know they’re doing it, they know I know and I’m just stuck in this world of trying escape my weakness.
There's no right or wrong. There's just what works best at any given time vs any given opponent. Obviously the higher the level the more likely the opponent will learn and adapt more quickly. So using a successful 'weapon' more sparingly may be more prudent. With the opposite also being true with lower level players. @@TheTableTennisServiceGuy
lo mejor es no abusar de la debilidad, ir sacando puntos pero no demasiado seguido para que no se prepare, asi tendremos un arma en caso de 10/10
I like this 🙂
I try to be not too obvious. So it does not backfire at me :D
I noticed if I found a weakness and I keep exploiting it opponent will improve and it won’t be a weakness anymore so I keep it to when I need points
I think in a different way to this (some of the time). Worth considering other options too 👍
Video too slow and boring as a consequence