Hey! We're upgrading our cnc and curious what model rotary that is, and if you were buying a new machine for block work what would you change from your current setup? I was going to get the hrt210 high torque model rotary and the renishaw probe. Also curious how much detail your models have as a starting point for the probe?
it is an HRT 310 with a brake booster. maybe a higher speed spindle for when in using smaller endmills, but that is not a common operation for me. the models have as much detail as you want to put in them.
It is one that I made. I modeled it after some others that I had seen. Honestly, When I called a company that sells them and they wanted $4000+ for the same cutter, I figured I could have the machine make its own tools and save some money while I was at it!
I didn't need to bore this one. But it is less set up time than manual machine, and I have to babysit the manual machine and flip it over halfway through the process.
Can you explain the probing process in detail? It looks like you use two work offsets here: X and Y for each one are the center of a bolt hole and Z is the plane of the deck. A is the plane of the deck in Y. Is there a 3rd work offset on the centerline of the bar so you are automatically checking the deck height of each bank?
G54 X,Y,Z,A are set off of the dowel hole and deck surface of one side of the block. The G55 is the same for the other side. The bar is set up parallel to the spindle in Z,Y before the block is loaded into the machine. So, the bar is in the center of the mains and rotary, so it measures and machines off of the crank centerline.
We mainly work on domestic V8's and the viper engines. SBC, BBC, SBF, BBF, coyotes, LS, hemi's, ETC. We are more geared towards performance, but do some standard rebuilds as well.
Yes, we have a deburring process for the aluminum parts of the block and a different process for the sleeves. It breaks the edge on the sleeves enough to make the rings slide in easy.
Funny this would show up in my recommended just now because I have a Dodge Ram SRT10 on my hoist that I am building a full custom stainless steel exhaust for...
I like cnc but take a little long for me Floor to floor without cnc machine we do about 45 or less But I money on 30min But will cnc does have it avadangte
it would usually took about 1.5-2 hours on our other surfacer, could have just been the setup of the machine. I'm sure there are faster ways, but usually the blocks go in for more than one operation, so that saves a lot of time.
@@paragonengines1924 multi operation that the ticket Typicall v-8 just surface 30-45 Surface to specific deck to square block to customer specs 1hr at most We got dedicated surfacer machine love to cnc in shop People around here do not have cnc budget Jacksonville Florida
Excellent workmanship, Awesome job as always. Love your videos
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Hey! We're upgrading our cnc and curious what model rotary that is, and if you were buying a new machine for block work what would you change from your current setup? I was going to get the hrt210 high torque model rotary and the renishaw probe. Also curious how much detail your models have as a starting point for the probe?
it is an HRT 310 with a brake booster. maybe a higher speed spindle for when in using smaller endmills, but that is not a common operation for me. the models have as much detail as you want to put in them.
Does this VF4 have a column riser on the head?
No, just a lower profile table to get the clearance.
I spy not one, but TWO V10s in this picture...same customer?
Yep, we do all the machining and engine building for a high-end viper shop.
What fly cutter is that?
It is one that I made. I modeled it after some others that I had seen. Honestly, When I called a company that sells them and they wanted $4000+ for the same cutter, I figured I could have the machine make its own tools and save some money while I was at it!
Could this be done without a 4th axis? How?
Get creative
Sure, but way more work. You would need some sore or manual roll over fixture.
Seems like a lot of set up for just the decking. Did it not need any cylinder work?
I didn't need to bore this one. But it is less set up time than manual machine, and I have to babysit the manual machine and flip it over halfway through the process.
@@paragonengines1924 Thanks for the reply.
Can you explain the probing process in detail? It looks like you use two work offsets here: X and Y for each one are the center of a bolt hole and Z is the plane of the deck. A is the plane of the deck in Y. Is there a 3rd work offset on the centerline of the bar so you are automatically checking the deck height of each bank?
G54 X,Y,Z,A are set off of the dowel hole and deck surface of one side of the block. The G55 is the same for the other side. The bar is set up parallel to the spindle in Z,Y before the block is loaded into the machine. So, the bar is in the center of the mains and rotary, so it measures and machines off of the crank centerline.
Do you work on a variety of stuff, or a selection of specific engines?
We mainly work on domestic V8's and the viper engines. SBC, BBC, SBF, BBF, coyotes, LS, hemi's, ETC. We are more geared towards performance, but do some standard rebuilds as well.
Did you remove the burr?
Yes, we have a deburring process for the aluminum parts of the block and a different process for the sleeves. It breaks the edge on the sleeves enough to make the rings slide in easy.
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Just give us a call and we can get one started for you!
Funny this would show up in my recommended just now because I have a Dodge Ram SRT10 on my hoist that I am building a full custom stainless steel exhaust for...
The youtubes is watching you...
I like cnc but take a little long for me
Floor to floor without cnc machine we do about 45 or less
But I money on 30min
But will cnc does have it avadangte
it would usually took about 1.5-2 hours on our other surfacer, could have just been the setup of the machine. I'm sure there are faster ways, but usually the blocks go in for more than one operation, so that saves a lot of time.
@@paragonengines1924 multi operation that the ticket
Typicall v-8 just surface 30-45
Surface to specific deck to square block to customer specs 1hr at most
We got dedicated surfacer machine love to cnc in shop
People around here do not have cnc budget Jacksonville Florida
All you did was surface, could have done that on my manual in a third of the time
Cool!
@@paragonengines1924 do you do any clearancing for stroker, line boring, or correcting lifter bores?
Yep! Along with a lot of other operations!
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