Reminds me of the City Vehicle Engineering (CVE) bus manufacturer in County Durham. Very nice to see OK Motor Services 129 DPT always well presented fleet livery for an independent operator
The Bellhouse Hartwell body is amazing. I'm not so certain about the underfloor storage on the Auckland examples though! Edit: I've just looked them up. They really went their own way on everything! Maybe they should get a video sometime Jeffrey?
I have heard of the Freeline but never realised it was Daimler's underfloor offering and done before Leyland and AEC. Sydney Bus Museum have a Daimler CVG6 single deck front engine bus with Gardner LW and a member started it up and gave it a rev. Just wow. Sublime note. Their hydraulic braking systems and driver complaints about overheating engine compartments led to their premature withdrawal by 1973.
Part of the Kelvin Hall in Glasgow was from 1987-2010 the Glasgow Museum of Transport around then the museum had a 1958 PDR/1 Leyland Atlantean, also a 1949 Albion Venturer and a Glasgow Fire Brigade Leyland Firemaster as well as several Glasgow Trams, Glasgow Subway cars and a recreated street recreating Glasgow in the 1930s a much larger street was made in the new Riverside Museum when opened in 2011.
Hello! That sounded like it must have been a great museum, hopefully the newer place is just as good or much better! Thank you very much for watching!!
@@JeffreyOrnstein Yes the Riverside Museum you can sit in some Glasgow Trams also the original Glasgow Subway cars there isn’t much of a bus exhibit sadly as the GVVT (Glasgow Vintage Vehicle Trust) was loaned the Atlantean & Albion by Glasgow Museums, the GVVT have also recommissioned them back to full working order however the GVVT also has the last Atlantean bought new in Glasgow from 1981.
Nice looking buses with those unique curved body. It’s amazing how much horsepower these modern engines put out now. 10L can easily produce 400HP while you were lucky to get 150 for the same size. Well done Jeffery.
The engines from the Indian models are probably on yt uploads being expertly 'fettled' for another million miles of service by a group of guys armed with nothing but hammers, a dodgy blowtorch and a lathe from WWI :)
Hello! LOL!! Probably! Unfortunately, I could not find a picture of the Bombay Freelines...it's possible they are still in service, but totally unrecognizable, LOL! Thank you very much for watching!!
Enjoyed the video,would be a great time to go back in time to ride some of these coaches, like you would do with a bucket list, back in the day,you were just getting from point Ato point B ,and look at the streamlined cookie cutter coaches of today
Hello! Really glad you liked the video! Oh yes, it would be great to somehow get to ride these buses and coaches again! Thank you very much for watching!!
Congratulations on another very comprehensive video. Not to nit-pick, but your engine illustrations are of the vertical, and not the horizontal versions of the Gardner, and please do get the spelling of DUKINFIELD right. As a native of that borough I cringe everytime I see it mangled!
Hello! Very glad you liked the video! Oh, my apologies about the engine - my error as I am not a total engine expert, and used what picutures I could find of that type of engine. And for the misspelling, I may have been rushing it a bit, so it's definitely my error, but now I know! Thank you very much for watching!!
In the title do you mean 'The Bus that Emmigrated for Success'? Not a success for Daimler on the home market. The Regal IV was an alternative from AEC of and underfloor engine. Despite the Freeline being heavy and problematic, other countries bought them, strangely. The Auckland model is superb looking. Saunders-Roe, I believe, were based at Anglesey, North Wales, a ship-building company. Nice video.
A very good interesting video all those old buses look great. Today's buses lack their character. Sadly none ever operated in Ireland not even second hand as far as I know anyway.
Hello! Really glad you liked the video! Oh yes, I was sort of wondering about that - while doing research I never saw any reference to a Freeline in Ireland, unfortunately! Thank you very much for watching!!
@@JeffreyOrnstein I always imagined that if Belfast Corporation Transport bought them they would have probably had Harkness bodies similar to the single deck Guy Arabs in the 1950s only longer with a front end based on the bottom deck off the trolley buses. The Ulster Transport Authority and CIE bought little else but Leylands and a few AEC s . All them Freelines looked great the green export one's my favourite the livery reminded me off Ulster Transport Authority Tiger Cubs .
Another great little video in your addictive histories of classic buses. You did well not to pronounce the component towns of SHMD. I thought ‘Dukinfield’ was pronounced ‘Dook-in-field’ but my Mancunian co-workers insist it’s ‘Duck-in-field’. What it isn’t though is ‘Dunkfield’, which is how you’ve captioned it. ‘Mossley’, by the way, is pronounced ‘Mozzley’. It’s a small town with a steep hill, separating ‘Top Mozzley’ from ‘Bottom Mozzley’. Good luck with your next instalments!
Hello! Really glad you liked the video! Oh yes, you are so right that I purposely avoided pronouncing each town of the SHMD!! Thanks for the correct way Dukinfield is spoken and spelled (must have been rushing through things when I wrote that - my apologies)! Thank you very much for watching!!
That bus with the Saunders Roe body- was it amphibious? That's a joke- but as a kid I did see the mothballed Saunders Roe Princess flying boat- bobbing around on the water and our little excursion boat went in really close to it. It made a creaking sound as it rose up and down on the water.
@@JeffreyOrnstein In the late 40s Saunders- which was a boat builder built the bodies of many LT RT double decker buses- I think in Anglesey- probably a facility constructed in WW2 . Saunders-Roe as it had become also built the first hovercraft in 1959. The sad thing about the Princess flying boat was that a use had been found for them but lapsing the maintenance contract led to them deteriorating under their protective cocoons. Something else I caught a glimpse of on that cruise that day was the Royal Victoria Hospital at Netley- the world's longest building and work began soon afterwards to tear that vast building down. The 1960s a "decade of progress" when a big attempt was made to close and demolish everything in Britain that was Victorian in origin.
Rhe FREELINE was first. I only remember one of three ex Co vertry Corporation 1959 date (three) with a dual purpose.body. All I recall was it was stuck in first gear and the firm said adios to it quickly !
The 1951 Duple Bus looks like it could have taken off, but I think operators had rebodied their wartime chassis and were generally stuck to double decks, maybe by 1954 the time would have been better but then other manufacturers had got their models, surprised though Birmingham Corporation didnt try for some though
Hello! I'm really glad you like my videos!!! I like UK buses because there's such an incredible variety - often unlike American buses which are very standardized! Thank you very much for watching!!
The UK is rather a hard environment for a bus with narrow country roads and a lot of hills is the north and Wales so a general purpose vehicle would not be a good performer on the city roads so I can understand the UK finding markets abroad.. Jeffrey what do you think of the Bristol RE, my chum Shakey bought one from Crossville Bus it had a Gardner 6HLX nice drive he now has an RE from National bus now.
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Do you know which coach operators use the two examples sold to Coventry? I lived in Coventry during that time. I don't remember seeing these buses and the livery pictured was not Coventry Corporation Transport's, which was maroon and cream. It was also not the livery of the other major coach operators in the city.
Nothing happens in vacuum and paraller thinking is a well estabilished principle (generaly speaking technology reaches point where certain solution becomes more viable) so world master could have been wholly separate engineering team having a go at same idea. It is always nice to see at least some success even if the target market wont pick up on the qualities of the bus. Dose the 92 being poor mean in comparison to what designing+building costs would have been for the project? or is there magical number of buses that is fine sale figure just in general? (i know its dumb question but for some reason my brain is not exactly able to sort it by itself). Oh boy true heavyweight of its day, i can see that being a problem to be fair. busses are at their best if their weight is low - making everything wear slower and even consume less fuel. Damn the slowly declining window line in some of the models is actualy quite visualy interesting, and i am always sucker for side of the roof windows.
Hello! Well, the bus was developed mainly for the municipal home sector, but was not successful for that purpose, so sales were low, and perhaps to recoup their investment, marketed the bus for other purposes, especially overseas. Thank you very much for watching!!
@@JeffreyOrnstein do not thank me i am just the audience i thank THE for making strange nieche for my interest well interesting ,) and yes i accept that is likely their mental trail - to ensure some profit they went to other markets.
When Jeffrey said, 'the Freeline not the Fleetline', my husband smiled and said, 'this guy really knows his British buses'!
Hello Melanie! LOL, you're husband is right, I would like to think, LOL! Glad the both of you liked the video and thanks so much for watching again!
As always, Jeffrey, beautiful!
Thank-you!
Hello John, really glad you liked the video! Thank you very much for watching again!!
It’s amazing Jeffery how you are able to research these unusual buses. Well done.
Hello! I'm really glad you liked the video on this almost unknown bus!!! Thank you very much for watching again!!
No idea why i love this channel, never knew there were so manybuses
Another great video Jeffrey, an interesting look at another British bus that would otherwise be forgotten.
Another great bus story. Thanks Jeffrey.
Hello! I'm really happy you liked the video! Thank you very much for watching!!
The Glasgow liveried example looked gorgeous !
Reminds me of the City Vehicle Engineering (CVE) bus manufacturer in County Durham.
Very nice to see OK Motor Services 129 DPT always well presented fleet livery for an independent operator
The Bellhouse Hartwell body is amazing. I'm not so certain about the underfloor storage on the Auckland examples though!
Edit: I've just looked them up. They really went their own way on everything! Maybe they should get a video sometime Jeffrey?
I have heard of the Freeline but never realised it was Daimler's underfloor offering and done before Leyland and AEC.
Sydney Bus Museum have a Daimler CVG6 single deck front engine bus with Gardner LW and a member started it up and gave it a rev. Just wow. Sublime note. Their hydraulic braking systems and driver complaints about overheating engine compartments led to their premature withdrawal by 1973.
Hello! Oh yes, the Freeline was a bit of an unknown, being overshadowed by other more numerous buses! Thank you very much for watching again!!
What an amazing looking bus 🤩 Great video, Jeffrey 👏
Another wonderfully fascinating and enjoyable video, Jeffrey! Thank you so much!
Hello! I'm so glad you liked the video!! Thank you very much for watching again!!
Thank you Jeffrey for another great watch,take care Cheyenne, location,,,Leith, Edinburgh
Part of the Kelvin Hall in Glasgow was from 1987-2010 the Glasgow Museum of Transport around then the museum had a 1958 PDR/1 Leyland Atlantean, also a 1949 Albion Venturer and a Glasgow Fire Brigade Leyland Firemaster as well as several Glasgow Trams, Glasgow Subway cars and a recreated street recreating Glasgow in the 1930s a much larger street was made in the new Riverside Museum when opened in 2011.
Hello! That sounded like it must have been a great museum, hopefully the newer place is just as good or much better! Thank you very much for watching!!
@@JeffreyOrnstein Yes the Riverside Museum you can sit in some Glasgow Trams also the original Glasgow Subway cars there isn’t much of a bus exhibit sadly as the GVVT (Glasgow Vintage Vehicle Trust) was loaned the Atlantean & Albion by Glasgow Museums, the GVVT have also recommissioned them back to full working order however the GVVT also has the last Atlantean bought new in Glasgow from 1981.
Excellent video Jeffrey, your knowledge of British buses is outstanding
Cheers Russ
Hello Russ, I'm so glad you liked this video!! And thanks for the compliment, much appreciated! Thank you very much for watching!!
This is such a good channel.
Hello! I'm really very happy you like my channel!!! Thank you very much for watching!!
Nice looking buses with those unique curved body. It’s amazing how much horsepower these modern engines put out now. 10L can easily produce 400HP while you were lucky to get 150 for the same size. Well done Jeffery.
Hello! I'm really happy you liked the video!! Oh yes, those old buses had wonderful bodies!! Thank you very much for watching again!!
The engines from the Indian models are probably on yt uploads being expertly 'fettled' for another million miles of service by a group of guys armed with nothing but hammers, a dodgy blowtorch and a lathe from WWI :)
Hello! LOL!! Probably! Unfortunately, I could not find a picture of the Bombay Freelines...it's possible they are still in service, but totally unrecognizable, LOL! Thank you very much for watching!!
Thanks Jeffrey, some very cool busses!
Hello! Very happy you liked the video, and yes, those were very interesting buses!! Thank you very much for watching!!
Enjoyed the video,would be a great time to go back in time to ride some of these coaches, like you would do with a bucket list, back in the day,you were just getting from point Ato point B ,and look at the streamlined cookie cutter coaches of today
Hello! Really glad you liked the video! Oh yes, it would be great to somehow get to ride these buses and coaches again! Thank you very much for watching!!
Cheers Jeffrey, another interesting journey into Buses. See you next time.
Hello! I'm so happy you found the video interesting!!!! Thank you very much for watching again!!
Congratulations on another very comprehensive video. Not to nit-pick, but your engine illustrations are of the vertical, and not the horizontal versions of the Gardner, and please do get the spelling of DUKINFIELD right. As a native of that borough I cringe everytime I see it mangled!
Hello! Very glad you liked the video! Oh, my apologies about the engine - my error as I am not a total engine expert, and used what picutures I could find of that type of engine. And for the misspelling, I may have been rushing it a bit, so it's definitely my error, but now I know! Thank you very much for watching!!
Great stuff again
Hello! I'm so glad you really liked the video!!! Thank you very much for watching again!!
I almost certainly travelled on one as a small child in Auckland but I don't remember them. The ARA buses do look somewhat familiar though.
Amazing video.... Daimler busses!!
Hello! Very happy you liked the video! And thanks for watching again!!!
@@JeffreyOrnstein your production is of a really high quality!!!
Excellent video on a very rare bus, thank you, Jeffrey.
Can I suggest a video topic? Lisbon's AEC Regents and Regals. Are there any survivors today?
Jeffrey you should invest in a trip to Lisbon, they have an amazing bus museum with the old British busses
Hello! Oh yes, I'd love to go there, I will look into Lisbon and its bus museum!!
In the title do you mean 'The Bus that Emmigrated for Success'? Not a success for Daimler on the home market. The Regal IV was an alternative from AEC of and underfloor engine. Despite the Freeline being heavy and problematic, other countries bought them, strangely. The Auckland model is superb looking. Saunders-Roe, I believe, were based at Anglesey, North Wales, a ship-building company. Nice video.
A very good interesting video all those old buses look great. Today's buses lack their character. Sadly none ever operated in Ireland not even second hand as far as I know anyway.
Hello! Really glad you liked the video! Oh yes, I was sort of wondering about that - while doing research I never saw any reference to a Freeline in Ireland, unfortunately! Thank you very much for watching!!
@@JeffreyOrnstein I always imagined that if Belfast Corporation Transport bought them they would have probably had Harkness bodies similar to the single deck Guy Arabs in the 1950s only longer with a front end based on the bottom deck off the trolley buses. The Ulster Transport Authority and CIE bought little else but Leylands and a few AEC s . All them Freelines looked great the green export one's my favourite the livery reminded me off Ulster Transport Authority Tiger Cubs .
Another great little video in your addictive histories of classic buses.
You did well not to pronounce the component towns of SHMD. I thought ‘Dukinfield’ was pronounced ‘Dook-in-field’ but my Mancunian co-workers insist it’s ‘Duck-in-field’. What it isn’t though is ‘Dunkfield’, which is how you’ve captioned it.
‘Mossley’, by the way, is pronounced ‘Mozzley’. It’s a small town with a steep hill, separating ‘Top Mozzley’ from ‘Bottom Mozzley’.
Good luck with your next instalments!
Hello! Really glad you liked the video! Oh yes, you are so right that I purposely avoided pronouncing each town of the SHMD!! Thanks for the correct way Dukinfield is spoken and spelled (must have been rushing through things when I wrote that - my apologies)! Thank you very much for watching!!
That bus with the Saunders Roe body- was it amphibious? That's a joke- but as a kid I did see the mothballed Saunders Roe Princess flying boat- bobbing around on the water and our little excursion boat went in really close to it. It made a creaking sound as it rose up and down on the water.
Hello! LOL, that flying boat sounds like it could be a subject of a future video! Thank you very much for watching!!
@@JeffreyOrnstein In the late 40s Saunders- which was a boat builder built the bodies of many LT RT double decker buses- I think in Anglesey- probably a facility constructed in WW2 . Saunders-Roe as it had become also built the first hovercraft in 1959. The sad thing about the Princess flying boat was that a use had been found for them but lapsing the maintenance contract led to them deteriorating under their protective cocoons. Something else I caught a glimpse of on that cruise that day was the Royal Victoria Hospital at Netley- the world's longest building and work began soon afterwards to tear that vast building down. The 1960s a "decade of progress" when a big attempt was made to close and demolish everything in Britain that was Victorian in origin.
Well done you've mastered the pronunciation of Glasgow. Great video as usual.
Still not quite got Edinburgh! 🙂
Even scotrail can't get it right, their station announcements say 'Edinbra!'
Hello! Glad you liked the video - Yes, I'm trying with the pronunciation! Thank you very much for watching!!
Rhe FREELINE was first. I only remember one of three ex Co vertry Corporation 1959 date (three) with a dual purpose.body.
All I recall was it was stuck in first gear and the firm said adios to it quickly !
The 1951 Duple Bus looks like it could have taken off, but I think operators had rebodied their wartime chassis and were generally stuck to double decks, maybe by 1954 the time would have been better but then other manufacturers had got their models, surprised though Birmingham Corporation didnt try for some though
Sounds like that Daimler Engine was pretty powerful. Why did Daimler stop making them - say not fitted to Fleetlines - were they a bit thirsty ?
Your research is incredible. What is it that attracts you to UK buses?
Hello! I'm really glad you like my videos!!! I like UK buses because there's such an incredible variety - often unlike American buses which are very standardized! Thank you very much for watching!!
The UK is rather a hard environment for a bus with narrow country roads and a lot of hills is the north and Wales so a general purpose vehicle would not be a good performer on the city roads so I can understand the UK finding markets abroad.. Jeffrey what do you think of the Bristol RE, my chum Shakey bought one from Crossville Bus it had a Gardner 6HLX nice drive he now has an RE from National bus now.
Do you know which coach operators use the two examples sold to Coventry? I lived in Coventry during that time. I don't remember seeing these buses and the livery pictured was not Coventry Corporation Transport's, which was maroon and cream. It was also not the livery of the other major coach operators in the city.
Nothing happens in vacuum and paraller thinking is a well estabilished principle (generaly speaking technology reaches point where certain solution becomes more viable) so world master could have been wholly separate engineering team having a go at same idea.
It is always nice to see at least some success even if the target market wont pick up on the qualities of the bus.
Dose the 92 being poor mean in comparison to what designing+building costs would have been for the project? or is there magical number of buses that is fine sale figure just in general? (i know its dumb question but for some reason my brain is not exactly able to sort it by itself).
Oh boy true heavyweight of its day, i can see that being a problem to be fair. busses are at their best if their weight is low - making everything wear slower and even consume less fuel.
Damn the slowly declining window line in some of the models is actualy quite visualy interesting, and i am always sucker for side of the roof windows.
If they are too lightweight they fall apart - Bedfords would last for less than 12 years, Leylands could go to 16 for example
Hello! Well, the bus was developed mainly for the municipal home sector, but was not successful for that purpose, so sales were low, and perhaps to recoup their investment, marketed the bus for other purposes, especially overseas. Thank you very much for watching!!
@@JeffreyOrnstein do not thank me i am just the audience i thank THE for making strange nieche for my interest well interesting ,)
and yes i accept that is likely their mental trail - to ensure some profit they went to other markets.