Hope you all enjoy this story about the rise of an unlikely Saxon family. Next episode will be about the last Ottonians and their dynastic legacy. 1.5 centuries down... 8.5 centuries to go. The story of the HRE is a LONG one! BIG thanks to KnowHistory once again for helping me out with the many maps in this video. Go check out his awesome vids (and its many awesome maps): www.youtube.com/@KnowHistory/ As always, corrections/clarifications will be posted here.
I know it's slightly off topic from the Holy Roman Empire, but have you given any thought to maybe doing a video (podcast episode) on the late Carolingian Period in West Frankia and/or the early Capetians? I only ask because that topic could just as well be a sequel to the history you've covered on the Frankish Empire as the Ottonians (and Salians) are; plus, around the time you cover the early Hohenstaufens (Conrad III and Frederick Barbarossa), it might not be such a bad idea to have some context for the rising power to their west (under Louis VII and Phllip II).
If you were to contemplate the insane task of regaling the entire history of the HRE, I'd call you a madman, and then promptly take my seat and wait for you to continue. Very much ashamed to not really know a lot about Otto the Great nor really the HRE's detailed history beyond it's general start and end, so this is very exciting. As always, keep up your tremendous work, you are creating genuine historical treasures here we can all enjoy.
Henry the Fowler playing with birds while Erberhard tried to explain that he is the new King of the Germans has the same energy as Diocletian and his cabbages.
@@Empire-Builders that part of the pope's deposition also did not make sense for me, he was acused of incest, *But when was it crime? I thinked those medieval people liked it*
I'm not really a fan of most history youtubers so I can only really compare this channel's quality to Epic History TV and SandRhoman. You make putting this stuff out look easy, so it baffles me that with all of the effort going into content creation so few are making history stuff that is actually good.
I just love that when you published one of your first videos I pointed out how you were not citing your sources and now you take the time to cite everything, you are one of the best history youtubers out there cheers from another history major
This whole series on the franks and early medieval Europe is absolutely amazing. Would love to see you cover stuff like the Mongol invasion of Europe in the future. Keep up the great work!
This is pure quality. What I love about the Arabs is at least from my understanding, they're very aware of their history and figures within that history. We need much more of that in our society. Otto the Great should be as well known as Charlemagne and amongst my peers, Charlemagne is sadly basically unknown. The history of the Holy Roman Empire is extremely complex especially as it evolved throughout its thousand year existence, so I can't wait for its continuation under this channel's representation, which mentions aspects of medieval Roman kingship that is entirely absent from any other channel's representation.
Great video! Ottonian and Holy Roman history is so underrated, I'm glad you are covering them! I always cringe at the reductionism of Voltaire with his "neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire", I'm convinced it has turned thousands of history enthusiasts off from learning about Imperial history.
Amazing work as always! Your dramatic tellings of academically sourced history never misses. Your last few videos on the carolingians and this one have been amazing. the ambiance, tone, music, facts, drama, storytelling, and everything in between is like little else here. keep up the great work!
Great video man, I'm so impressed. The respect you show for your audience combined with your really excellent video editing skills is honestly unmatched.
I've been watching history videos on UA-cam for about 15 years now (crap I'm getting old!) and there is so little quality content on the Holy Roman Empire and medieval "Germany" in general. Thanks for your contribution!
A superb overview of two excellent monarchs that deserve a lot more credit. And as another person said, you found some awesome art for this! I'd seen some of it before, but not all!
Another fantastic and informative video and the editing is perfect too. Otto is such a great, fascinating and important figure who is criminally underappreciated.
Not sure if they'll ever feature heavily in this series but I look forward to you eventually covering the Hanseatic League, Free Imperial Cities, and all the other weird quirks of the HRE politics
Splendid! Lovely! Truly I haven’t enjoyed such good story telling about the Holy Roman Empire to date. In fact few talk about it in my sphere so this is a real treat. Thank you, sincerely.
@@Empire-Builders I don't understand how the salian emperors are not members of the ottonian dynasty they are literally the descendants of Otto the great eldest legitimate son
Any video on the on Otto the great is an instant watch for me! Thank you for this coverage on a very much underrated and under covered person in history, and a fan favorite in the Crusader Kings series! ❤️🔥
This was awesome and I am excited for what is next. My grandpa and his sister did some genealogy and historical record digging back in the 90s when me and my brother were born. We already knew quite a bit of family history being predominantly German, but his father was the last tie to that and WW1 and WW2 got him to stop speaking German and fully Americanize. But my ancestors were Bavarian (this is pseudonym my last name is very German, even a light hint would give it away) and nothing against Charlemagne but Otto had always piqued my interest a little more because of my heritage.
Honestly the best historical videos I’ve seen on UA-cam. Amazing work, I wonder where you’ll take this next? Following up on HRE would be crazy, I’d love to see your take on the Byzantines
We'll continue mostly chronologically with the HRE, but I'd love to branch off and do some other empires too (as with Akkadians + Russians). Byzantines are probably next up! Any aspect of Byzantine history you're interested in seeing in particular?
@@Empire-Builders probably from the collapse of the west until Justinian and belisarius. Always been interested in how the east reacted to the downfall of the west
Really enjoying your videos, they're very well-researched and well-written, a breath of fresh air in the midst of all the dodgy pseudohistory videos and AI-generated misinformation on YT.
Just another fantastic video, loving your content! Keep exploring these fascinating topics! If you ever need anyone to help out with the research or editing, id love to assist as I love both history and video editing! If that would be helpful please let me know as this is by far the coolest new history channel out there!!
I definitely think about the Holy Roman Empire basically daily. But I think about Stuart England all day long. It was hard being one of the only Europeanists in the department during college. Almost all my peers did American history with an emphasis on secondary education. Meanwhile, I monologued about monarchies and tried to bring back traditional court dance music from 1600s Europe.
The Ottonians are so interesting!!!! It's fascinating to see the Byzantines despite their reduced size being able to influence affairs in Southern Germany with the Magyar invasion. Otto was an incredible ruler and deserves to be remembered as such.
The HRE is cool and all but I’d love to see a history of the Anglo Saxons in England before those damn Normans showed up. Then later a history on those Normans
@Empire-Builders Both, please! The transition from Heptarchy to one Kingdom, from Anglo-Saxon to English, is something that much like the HRE, deserves more attention!
Something I believe would be nice to see in your channel after the Franks and HRE series are over would be a brief summary of the history of the peoples around them. How the italian cultures developed after the WRE fell. How the ERE and the barbarian invasions influenced their cultures, etc. The time period you cover is criminally neglected, even by youtube history nerds. I believe explorong them would fill an important niche. Especially since you have acquired an audience interested in it.
Italy & France will continue to feature heavily in this series, but I would love to revisit them in even greater depth! The solidification of West Francia into France (a shimmering beacon of light during the Dark Ages) and the balkanization of Italy into the prodigal city-states that would usher in the Renaissance.
@@Empire-Builders I really love this time period. It feels like a fallen world rediscovering what it once was and discovering what it can be. The centuries-long rebuilding after the centuries-long storm.
Small correction: Magyars never called their confederation onogurs. The Europeans started referring to them this way, because they confused them with the ogurs when magyars, ogurs and other ethnic groups had an alliance. We Hungarians still call ourselves magyar.
I did not know the Byzantines were involved in this whole Hungarian episode...now I wonder if they were also secretly responsible for all those Karolingian deaths years before. Tinfoil theory of course, but also not completely unrealistic, given human nature.
what always strike me is the severe shortage of names in germans royalties. Short and easy to remember but suprising too few. Names like otto, frederick, henry (this even shared with english).. rinse and repeat again and again in their entire history. On the other hand, I don't know how to pronounce french names without my tongue tripping in attempts and falter altogether lol.
It really does seem that royal names were repeated again and again in many places, in many different times. We see it with the Franks, Germans, French, English, etc.
@@babelhuber3449 Indeed that is the case, but it is also a false frankish notion of reviving the Western Roman Empire that started this idea, which itself was built on forgaries and deception of Charlamagne and the Pope.
were HREmperors given triumphs? It was as an integral part of the imperator tag back during the empire...i just think a christian triumph would be...confusing if not just lackluster/dissapointing
The Roman Empire was alive and well until 1453. The line of succession never broke in the Eastern part. The "Holly Roman" Empire has no legal standing. It was an empire but not Roman. Sorry.
I mean they would argue with the "translatio imperii", that the Roman Empire shifted from the Greeks to the Germans with Charlemagne who took the title at a time a woman set on the throne in the East which by Roman custom should not have happened.
@p-ball_from_SEA all major historians hold this view. This was a title for the emperor not for the people who are Franks and Germans and would knock you out if you call them Roman
problematic to the nazis.. how exactly? most nazis were literally christians. Are you making an out of touch political point? or just rambling to fill time?
Charlemagne would always be listed as the first of the HR emperors by contemporaries. The famous painting of him by Dürer says something of the effect of "this is a picture of Charles who brought the Roman empire onto the Germans"
Is Constantinople Rome? Does calling yourself Roman make you Roman? Were the lustful, gluttonous, brutal and decadent ottoman caliphs holy? What kind of empire spends 1/3 of its history practically subjugated to European interests (especially British)
Hope you all enjoy this story about the rise of an unlikely Saxon family. Next episode will be about the last Ottonians and their dynastic legacy.
1.5 centuries down... 8.5 centuries to go. The story of the HRE is a LONG one!
BIG thanks to KnowHistory once again for helping me out with the many maps in this video. Go check out his awesome vids (and its many awesome maps):
www.youtube.com/@KnowHistory/
As always, corrections/clarifications will be posted here.
I know it's slightly off topic from the Holy Roman Empire, but have you given any thought to maybe doing a video (podcast episode) on the late Carolingian Period in West Frankia and/or the early Capetians?
I only ask because that topic could just as well be a sequel to the history you've covered on the Frankish Empire as the Ottonians (and Salians) are; plus, around the time you cover the early Hohenstaufens (Conrad III and Frederick Barbarossa), it might not be such a bad idea to have some context for the rising power to their west (under Louis VII and Phllip II).
A better explanation of Italian politics at this time I think would’ve been nice
Men are hanged, things are hung
Otto honestly deserves more recognition.
He’s the Man
@@brendanmoran57 The man. Everyone else are just men. He is The Man
I agree! He is the father and saviour of the German nation and some would say also the saviour of Europe.
At least not in Germany. Magdeburg tried to rename itself to Ottostadt Magdeburg (Otto city).That was too much for the locals.
@@Holzkop ya I guess I have no idea if Germany remembers him or not. I don’t live there
If you were to contemplate the insane task of regaling the entire history of the HRE, I'd call you a madman, and then promptly take my seat and wait for you to continue. Very much ashamed to not really know a lot about Otto the Great nor really the HRE's detailed history beyond it's general start and end, so this is very exciting. As always, keep up your tremendous work, you are creating genuine historical treasures here we can all enjoy.
Henry the Fowler playing with birds while Erberhard tried to explain that he is the new King of the Germans has the same energy as Diocletian and his cabbages.
Exactly what I thought hahaha
Or Cincinnatus in his field when the roman Senate made him dictator.
@@Empire-Builders that part of the pope's deposition also did not make sense for me, he was acused of incest, *But when was it crime? I thinked those medieval people liked it*
I'm not really a fan of most history youtubers so I can only really compare this channel's quality to Epic History TV and SandRhoman. You make putting this stuff out look easy, so it baffles me that with all of the effort going into content creation so few are making history stuff that is actually good.
Trick is using AI for voice over of a lengthy script and AI art for screen fillers
Sadly, those are the new norms for history channels; which is a shame because they almost always suck @eunbyul416
This answers the question of what I'm watching when I get home.
I just love that when you published one of your first videos I pointed out how you were not citing your sources and now you take the time to cite everything, you are one of the best history youtubers out there cheers from another history major
That really means a lot!
This whole series on the franks and early medieval Europe is absolutely amazing. Would love to see you cover stuff like the Mongol invasion of Europe in the future. Keep up the great work!
The biggest land empire! I'd love to do the Mongols at some point.
Adelaide of Italy's story is just so insane it literally deserves its own video.
Love to see it! The Holy Roman Empire builder
Would just like to mention that Otto The Great was a descendant of charlemagne through both his sons Pepin and Louis
😊 yes
Keep it up! No one covers this part of history like you!
This is pure quality. What I love about the Arabs is at least from my understanding, they're very aware of their history and figures within that history. We need much more of that in our society. Otto the Great should be as well known as Charlemagne and amongst my peers, Charlemagne is sadly basically unknown. The history of the Holy Roman Empire is extremely complex especially as it evolved throughout its thousand year existence, so I can't wait for its continuation under this channel's representation, which mentions aspects of medieval Roman kingship that is entirely absent from any other channel's representation.
Great video! Ottonian and Holy Roman history is so underrated, I'm glad you are covering them! I always cringe at the reductionism of Voltaire with his "neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire", I'm convinced it has turned thousands of history enthusiasts off from learning about Imperial history.
Definitely! Any polity that remains more or less intact for a millennium is worth a thorough, second look.
Amazing work as always! Your dramatic tellings of academically sourced history never misses. Your last few videos on the carolingians and this one have been amazing. the ambiance, tone, music, facts, drama, storytelling, and everything in between is like little else here. keep up the great work!
Great video man, I'm so impressed. The respect you show for your audience combined with your really excellent video editing skills is honestly unmatched.
Thank you so much for the kind words!
I've been watching history videos on UA-cam for about 15 years now (crap I'm getting old!) and there is so little quality content on the Holy Roman Empire and medieval "Germany" in general. Thanks for your contribution!
Love the artwork you found.
Mate, your content is unbelievable. Please keep doing it!
A superb overview of two excellent monarchs that deserve a lot more credit. And as another person said, you found some awesome art for this! I'd seen some of it before, but not all!
Let's go! The real HRE begins
I thought I saw Ottomans at first. And I thought that'd be really cool
I’d love to do the Ottomans at some point! They’ll obv appear in the Habsburg chapter of this series too
Another fantastic and informative video and the editing is perfect too. Otto is such a great, fascinating and important figure who is criminally underappreciated.
Thank you very much! Henry & Otto both are definitely underrated.
Yaaay! Most underrated German in history
Not sure if they'll ever feature heavily in this series but I look forward to you eventually covering the Hanseatic League, Free Imperial Cities, and all the other weird quirks of the HRE politics
I'll definitely be covering them. can't wait!
Splendid! Lovely! Truly I haven’t enjoyed such good story telling about the Holy Roman Empire to date. In fact few talk about it in my sphere so this is a real treat. Thank you, sincerely.
I really appreciate hearing that. Thank you!
Always wanted to get more into HRE history but never knew where to get started thank you!
Very high quality content and in-depth analysis. Unfortunately underrated channel
Yet ANOTHER EB Banger 🎉
I'm glad that i found this series a few episodes earlier, this is going to be an awesome ride👌
Welcome aboard!
The "History Time" vibes are off the charts, and thats by no means a bad thing.
Incredible source of HRE history. Loved the Merovingian and Carolingian series, eager for coverage of the Eastern Roman Empire in the future.
Thank you for these videos man, great quality !!!
Great video as always. Thank you for covering this important and overlooked period of history.
Thank you for creating and putting together such a great video.
Who else read the Ottomans ?
I totally did 💀
This is not a series about furniture.
I did
Yup. I was half expecting the video to make some ludicrous claim like Mehmed II ostensibly restored Rome 😂
This is such a fantastic series thank you so much!!!!
What a great video!
Thanks again for your help!
@@Empire-Builders my pleasure!
Can you do a series on the assyrians the first massive empire they made the Merovingians look like the teletubbies
Def on my list!
@@Empire-Builders I don't understand how the salian emperors are not members of the ottonian dynasty they are literally the descendants of Otto the great eldest legitimate son
@@Nicholas-ch5ln They are matrilineally related to the Ottonians through Liutgard, who was married to Conrad the Red
Your work is very good! Best history channel I've found in a while
already excited for the episode on the Luxemburg Dynasty!
Any video on the on Otto the great is an instant watch for me! Thank you for this coverage on a very much underrated and under covered person in history, and a fan favorite in the Crusader Kings series! ❤️🔥
Thanks
Thank you again man! 🙏
This was awesome and I am excited for what is next. My grandpa and his sister did some genealogy and historical record digging back in the 90s when me and my brother were born. We already knew quite a bit of family history being predominantly German, but his father was the last tie to that and WW1 and WW2 got him to stop speaking German and fully Americanize. But my ancestors were Bavarian (this is pseudonym my last name is very German, even a light hint would give it away) and nothing against Charlemagne but Otto had always piqued my interest a little more because of my heritage.
Fascinating! Bavaria is a beautiful place, with a rich history. I got to visit Sonthofen last year and see for myself.
Another legendary video!
Great video and editing as usual! keep it up!
This channel is too good!!
Honestly the best historical videos I’ve seen on UA-cam. Amazing work, I wonder where you’ll take this next? Following up on HRE would be crazy, I’d love to see your take on the Byzantines
We'll continue mostly chronologically with the HRE, but I'd love to branch off and do some other empires too (as with Akkadians + Russians). Byzantines are probably next up! Any aspect of Byzantine history you're interested in seeing in particular?
@@Empire-Builders probably from the collapse of the west until Justinian and belisarius. Always been interested in how the east reacted to the downfall of the west
Really enjoying your videos, they're very well-researched and well-written, a breath of fresh air in the midst of all the dodgy pseudohistory videos and AI-generated misinformation on YT.
amazing video
Great story thank you
Just another fantastic video, loving your content! Keep exploring these fascinating topics! If you ever need anyone to help out with the research or editing, id love to assist as I love both history and video editing! If that would be helpful please let me know as this is by far the coolest new history channel out there!!
These videos are an absolute treat to watch!
Always looking for ways to improve my content! Shoot me an email at ddmainayar@gmail.com
Babe wake up, Empire-Builders just posted.
Great shit as always
I definitely think about the Holy Roman Empire basically daily. But I think about Stuart England all day long. It was hard being one of the only Europeanists in the department during college. Almost all my peers did American history with an emphasis on secondary education. Meanwhile, I monologued about monarchies and tried to bring back traditional court dance music from 1600s Europe.
What was name of that chant you used in the beginning?
Thanks! So what's the song at the beginning of this wonderful vid?
Thank you very much! That would be “Legacy of Rome” from the CK2 soundtrack :)
The Ottonians are so interesting!!!!
It's fascinating to see the Byzantines despite their reduced size being able to influence affairs in Southern Germany with the Magyar invasion. Otto was an incredible ruler and deserves to be remembered as such.
good stuff
Three ads within the first eight minutes of video 😮💨But it's a good documentary so far.
Yup another EB classic
The HRE is cool and all but I’d love to see a history of the Anglo Saxons in England before those damn Normans showed up. Then later a history on those Normans
I was thinking the Angevin “empire” but pre/post-Normans would be a lot of fun too.
@Empire-Builders Both, please! The transition from Heptarchy to one Kingdom, from Anglo-Saxon to English, is something that much like the HRE, deserves more attention!
Fun fact: Otto is the same King Otto talked about in Wolfenstein Old Blood
Not sure if there's somewhere to see it already, but if not, you gotta list the music you use. There's always such epic stuff in there
Just added to vid description!
Top shelf
Something I believe would be nice to see in your channel after the Franks and HRE series are over would be a brief summary of the history of the peoples around them. How the italian cultures developed after the WRE fell. How the ERE and the barbarian invasions influenced their cultures, etc. The time period you cover is criminally neglected, even by youtube history nerds. I believe explorong them would fill an important niche. Especially since you have acquired an audience interested in it.
Italy & France will continue to feature heavily in this series, but I would love to revisit them in even greater depth! The solidification of West Francia into France (a shimmering beacon of light during the Dark Ages) and the balkanization of Italy into the prodigal city-states that would usher in the Renaissance.
@@Empire-Builders I really love this time period. It feels like a fallen world rediscovering what it once was and discovering what it can be. The centuries-long rebuilding after the centuries-long storm.
Man it would be a blessing and a curse to live during that time.
Small nitpick. Otto actually was a descendant of Karls Magnus. He was a descendant of one of Louis the pious daughters.
2:24 source for illustration? its very good.
Árpád Feszty’s epic panorama “The Arrival of the Hungarians”. Different sections of it feature throughout the vid
@@Empire-Builders thanks! and thanks for the awesome content, always looking forwards to more
Small correction: Magyars never called their confederation onogurs. The Europeans started referring to them this way, because they confused them with the ogurs when magyars, ogurs and other ethnic groups had an alliance. We Hungarians still call ourselves magyar.
Christoph Hahn saved the life of Otto the Great in Lechfeld in 955 and for that Christoph was dubbed a knight.
lets go bois!!!
What is a byzantine?
An inhabitant of the Byzantine Empire
@@Empire-Builders what is a byzantine empire?
@@ChristianAuditore14I think he’s talking about the Roman Empire.
@@mikeviking1000 if he is talking about the roman empire he should say so
@@ChristianAuditore14 I agree
Why did I read "The rise of the Ottomans" lol
Wait a second...that's the CK3 map!
Hit the thumbnail for the Ottomans ✋🏿
I love this series, this is great. But I have to complain, your pronunciation of Mainz hurts lol
Haha, I'll try to pronounce it properly the next time it comes up
I did not know the Byzantines were involved in this whole Hungarian episode...now I wonder if they were also secretly responsible for all those Karolingian deaths years before. Tinfoil theory of course, but also not completely unrealistic, given human nature.
Nice video🫄
👍👍👍😊
what always strike me is the severe shortage of names in germans royalties. Short and easy to remember but suprising too few.
Names like otto, frederick, henry (this even shared with english).. rinse and repeat again and again in their entire history.
On the other hand, I don't know how to pronounce french names without my tongue tripping in attempts and falter altogether lol.
It really does seem that royal names were repeated again and again in many places, in many different times. We see it with the Franks, Germans, French, English, etc.
Eh, isn't everyone just called Louis in France?
NGL, i read it as "Rise of the Ottomans"😅😅
Holy Roman Empire is nether Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire.
Voltaire
Yes in 1800 Voltaire was correct - for his time.
In the year 1000 the HRE contained Rome and _was_ an empire, though.
@@babelhuber3449 Indeed that is the case, but it is also a false frankish notion of reviving the Western Roman Empire that started this idea, which itself was built on forgaries and deception of Charlamagne and the Pope.
@@babelhuber3449 Otto only revived and fullfiled that idea to its natural end
@@kaudzssol1449 That doesn't even make sense 🤷♂️
@@babelhuber3449 It does if you are well versed in history
were HREmperors given triumphs? It was as an integral part of the imperator tag back during the empire...i just think a christian triumph would be...confusing if not just lackluster/dissapointing
Triumphs are pretty integral, but acclamations equally so. Otto the Great was supposedly acclaimed imperator after Lechfeld
The Roman Empire was alive and well until 1453. The line of succession never broke in the Eastern part. The "Holly Roman" Empire has no legal standing. It was an empire but not Roman. Sorry.
I mean they would argue with the "translatio imperii", that the Roman Empire shifted from the Greeks to the Germans with Charlemagne who took the title at a time a woman set on the throne in the East which by Roman custom should not have happened.
@@Siegbert85the transition largely relies on the donation of Constantine which even the church agrees was a forgery
Love it US barbarian west sticking it to the east
The guy in the first clip gave the WRONG answer
pog
"Elb" not "Elba"
Elba is somewhat closer to the German pronuciation. Maybe "Elb-uh" is closer
HRE was neither Holy or Roman 😂
yawn
yeah we get it you read Voltaire
@p-ball_from_SEA all major historians hold this view. This was a title for the emperor not for the people who are Franks and Germans and would knock you out if you call them Roman
problematic to the nazis.. how exactly? most nazis were literally christians. Are you making an out of touch political point? or just rambling to fill time?
Those intrigant byzantine empire tried to interfere so often in Europe until with the ottomans they reached their final adversary😊
Otto WAS THE FIRST HRE. Charlemagne only got crowned to legotimate his King of Franks title and didnt even put it in his will
Charlemagne would always be listed as the first of the HR emperors by contemporaries. The famous painting of him by Dürer says something of the effect of "this is a picture of Charles who brought the Roman empire onto the Germans"
Erst
HRE: Not holy or ROman or Empire... 🤡
Ottomans: Were holy, called themselfs Roman and actually had constantinople and were a empire 🗿
Is Constantinople Rome? Does calling yourself Roman make you Roman? Were the lustful, gluttonous, brutal and decadent ottoman caliphs holy? What kind of empire spends 1/3 of its history practically subjugated to European interests (especially British)