We never got to see B'Elanna's face when she learned the Cardassia she swore revenge on no longer existed, and all that was left was some terrified civilians, leaving her revenge utterly unfulfilled.
@@PungiFungi true, and I don’t think Voyager was ever fully briefed on the Dominion War, and how it ended. To be honest I don’t know when in the continuity did voyager even come back? Like was it before or after the war was over?
That would be an interesting episode, like Kira, B'Elanna had a profound hatred for Cardassia. It would have been a character development goldmine to have B'Elanna visit Cardassia and see that the enemy she fought no longer exists.
It's actually pretty fucked up that in a Lower Decks episode, Mariner wishes a group of Ensigns she hates would just "go join the Maquis". The fate of the Maquis is so infamous and gruesome that it's become an euphemism for "dying horribly".
The Dominion wasn't ready to start anything yet and Sisko knew that. They wanted to turn Cardassia space into a fortified fortress before attacking....but the mining of the wormhole forced their hand.
@@christopherg2347 No, she wasn't considered for the role of Kira Nerys; the Kira character was supposed TO BE Ro Laren. When Michelle Forbes didn't want to continue playing the part because she didn't want to be tied down for several years by a main cast role on a TV show, they created the Kira Nerys character to replace the role Ro Laren was supposed to have on DS9.
What always interested me was how much Eddington reminded me of Garak in most every way, only to find that they were not in fact played by the same actor. Could've fooled me. They could be brothers as far as I'm concerned.
100% unironically; Until recently I didn't even know the maquis were mentioned in, nor a part of VOY. I watched maybe 10-15 episodes of VOY total and I don't remember them ever mentioning the maquis a single time, let alone half the crew hating the other half since the maquis are supposed to despise the federation but especially starfleet. VOY was much worse than I had thought.
Voyager after they return: Oh damn Cardassia is destroyed and the Maquis are gone. I sorta wanna meet Sisko and see how he defeated the Dominion. Starfleet: Yeah. He comitted war crimes against your people but we brushed that under the carpet because that whole thing was based af. Then he got rewarded by turning into a God.
Sisko made the planet uninhabitable to humans and when it hit the maquis launched evac ships no one died. With that said he did turn them into refugees, which I'm sure Starfleet command had no problem with cause they wanted them out of the DMZ in the first place. With the attack on the USS malinche like sisko said they became an Intolerable threat to the security of the federation and he eliminated that threat. in other word, f**k around and find out 🤷🏾♂️
Were they actually war crimes though? apparently 'general order 24' & other such things allow starfleet captains like Sisko to sterilize or destroy a planet but only if there is a threat to the security of the federation. What he did during *'In the Pale Moonlight'* though? yeah 100% war-crime.
Watching Voyager clips back to back with those of DS9 really shows you how much better DS9 was as a show. Better writing, much better performances, the whole show is just on a whole other level.
You're right. I never liked VOY but I watched about 10-15 episodes. I wanted to give it a chance but it was a real slog the whole way through. DS9 was great and I think it holds up really well. VOY was bad in its time and has only gotten worse.
@@Archedgar DS9 is just ok. Avery Brooks ruins it for me. Voyager is bad. It's what made me dislike Rick Berman. It was the first show he had full control over after Michael Pillar left after his cancer diagnosis.
@@groom_of_the_stools Yeah I get what you mean. I was the same way at first but I came around.... don't blame you if you didn't though, I completely understand. Also yeah Rick Berman is trash.
@@Archedgar I still love the episodes that don't really focus on him. I just really dislike the Bajoran Emissary thing. I've never understood why Ron Moore sticks stupid religion in his shows. The show is fine otherwise. I really like Jadzia, O'Brien and Bashir episodes. I felt like Worf was a better character on TNG. He got too moody on DS9.
We never got to see B'Elanna's face when she learned the Cardassia she swore revenge on no longer existed, and all that was left was some terrified civilians, leaving her revenge utterly unfulfilled.
I don't know...by that time she had mellowed up a bit.
@@PungiFungi true, and I don’t think Voyager was ever fully briefed on the Dominion War, and how it ended. To be honest I don’t know when in the continuity did voyager even come back? Like was it before or after the war was over?
@@K-11609 After. Two years after the War was over, according to the timeline chart.
@@Caxkj0 I thought it was three. 2378.
That would be an interesting episode, like Kira, B'Elanna had a profound hatred for Cardassia. It would have been a character development goldmine to have B'Elanna visit Cardassia and see that the enemy she fought no longer exists.
It's actually pretty fucked up that in a Lower Decks episode, Mariner wishes a group of Ensigns she hates would just "go join the Maquis". The fate of the Maquis is so infamous and gruesome that it's become an euphemism for "dying horribly".
Well Mariner is a spoiled brat so that's not shocking.
I miss Stargate Atlantis too😊
the Captain expects a fleet of enemy ships to pass by the station and he is on the promenade.
The Dominion wasn't ready to start anything yet and Sisko knew that. They wanted to turn Cardassia space into a fortified fortress before attacking....but the mining of the wormhole forced their hand.
I would have liked it if Ro Laren had been a member of chakotays maquis crew when they had got stranded in the Delta quadrant
That would have been awesome especially since she betrayed Picard.
@Chives IIRC, she was considered for the "Kira Nerys" role. But she realy did not want to.
@@christopherg2347 No, she wasn't considered for the role of Kira Nerys; the Kira character was supposed TO BE Ro Laren. When Michelle Forbes didn't want to continue playing the part because she didn't want to be tied down for several years by a main cast role on a TV show, they created the Kira Nerys character to replace the role Ro Laren was supposed to have on DS9.
she was offered spots on DS9 and when she turned that down Voyager, but she didn't wanna commit to it.
I think it would have fit in perfectly with the story of her becoming a maquis after she left the Enterprise
What always interested me was how much Eddington reminded me of Garak in most every way, only to find that they were not in fact played by the same actor. Could've fooled me. They could be brothers as far as I'm concerned.
I guess that's why we never saw them together
100% unironically; Until recently I didn't even know the maquis were mentioned in, nor a part of VOY.
I watched maybe 10-15 episodes of VOY total and I don't remember them ever mentioning the maquis a single time, let alone half the crew hating the other half since the maquis are supposed to despise the federation but especially starfleet. VOY was much worse than I had thought.
That was some scenes from Stargate Atlantis wasn't it?
How many of us wanted to stab Vedek Winn when we saw her?
Voyager after they return: Oh damn Cardassia is destroyed and the Maquis are gone. I sorta wanna meet Sisko and see how he defeated the Dominion.
Starfleet: Yeah. He comitted war crimes against your people but we brushed that under the carpet because that whole thing was based af. Then he got rewarded by turning into a God.
No one died when Sisko fired those weapons.
Sisko made the planet uninhabitable to humans and when it hit the maquis launched evac ships no one died. With that said he did turn them into refugees, which I'm sure Starfleet command had no problem with cause they wanted them out of the DMZ in the first place. With the attack on the USS malinche like sisko said they became an Intolerable threat to the security of the federation and he eliminated that threat. in other word, f**k around and find out 🤷🏾♂️
Were they actually war crimes though? apparently 'general order 24' & other such things allow starfleet captains like Sisko to sterilize or destroy a planet but only if there is a threat to the security of the federation. What he did during *'In the Pale Moonlight'* though? yeah 100% war-crime.
Nicely put together.
4:22 "I felt a great disturbance in the force...."
This clip skipped the part where Chakotay said a few in the alpha quadrant were in prison instead of killed.
That Missle that nuked the planet that scene was borrowd from Stargate Atlantis First Strike
I wish Amazon Prime video could show more programs with Star Trek and the next generation and deep space nine and Voyager
Nice thief of stargate Atlantis material for star trek lma9
such a good episode
Except these shows were filmed 10 years before Atlantis.
@@Elthenar lmao.!!!! Was talking about the show you idiot. Sorry but damn.
@@Elthenar if you watched ether. You would know this is clipped together. Some is from stargate.
Yo you used stargate footage in here?
Watching Voyager clips back to back with those of DS9 really shows you how much better DS9 was as a show. Better writing, much better performances, the whole show is just on a whole other level.
I'm still surprised that Trek survived Voyager. It was the worst show of them all
You're right. I never liked VOY but I watched about 10-15 episodes. I wanted to give it a chance but it was a real slog the whole way through.
DS9 was great and I think it holds up really well. VOY was bad in its time and has only gotten worse.
@@Archedgar DS9 is just ok. Avery Brooks ruins it for me. Voyager is bad. It's what made me dislike Rick Berman. It was the first show he had full control over after Michael Pillar left after his cancer diagnosis.
@@groom_of_the_stools Yeah I get what you mean. I was the same way at first but I came around.... don't blame you if you didn't though, I completely understand. Also yeah Rick Berman is trash.
@@Archedgar I still love the episodes that don't really focus on him. I just really dislike the Bajoran Emissary thing. I've never understood why Ron Moore sticks stupid religion in his shows. The show is fine otherwise. I really like Jadzia, O'Brien and Bashir episodes. I felt like Worf was a better character on TNG. He got too moody on DS9.
Where is 1:33 from?
Looks like the episode where Sisko, Work, Obrien and Odo try to expose the changeling Gowron to only figure out that Martok is the changeling.
The bomb is from Stargate Atlantis
Sisko wasn’t a good captain, he was just bad writing.