@@Nighthawk5472 it's all the past. distant past in the case of john's ancestors. no one should be beholden for the actions of their forefathers. individuals should only be beholden to their own actions.
@@AW-sb6gzfirst not even a movie it's a television series based off books, big difference. Second people enjoy said tv series and books passionately enough to have opinions. You are commenting on the post just makes you a troll.
@@AW-sb6gz not a movie. a series. you ain't proving nothing. if you don't like peoples opinion then why comment. we all know this is not real is logical.
@@significantgumption Not to ,mention, her whole point stands on the fact that the Targarians are the "rightful" monarchs of westeros. When the Targarians were only in westeros for the last 350 years. Whilst the Starks ruled the north for over 4000 years before the Targarians came along and conquered them. The Starks literally have over 4000 years of being Kings and Queens of the North. They are the ones who should be ruling all of Westeros. That or the Martells should rule the south, the Starks the North and then the Arryns can have the Vale I guess.
just commenting on your interpretation - i see it the exact opposite: He wouldn't forgetor forgive her father's actions even though he literally just received an apology from the queen over her father's actions. He was the one trying to rewrite history wanting to ignore and not be held to the oath as both parties were very aware of and both understood its outcome to have meant the same.
I wish Jon would have pointed out that the last King in the North was actually Robb Stark. The Young Wolf swore the Targaryens no oaths, and the North swore to know no king but whose name is Stark
I never understood her arrogance claiming being the heir of the seven kingdoms. Your father lost the war and the throne, now belongs to the Baratheons but Lannisters pretending being Baratheons took it, if you want it, you have to win the war and then, you can call yourself the queen of the Seven Kingdoms.
Something u need to learn abt international politics. Most claims make as much sense as wet bedsheets put on sale. Take pakistani claim on kashmir. The British gave independence to India and all the princely states. The princely state of Kashmir acceded to India but Pakistan laid claim over freaking nothing. Take china's. They're making claims based on garbage older than the nation. The British had control of AP and it was indian and is under indian control. But China randomly started claiming it was Tibets Aksai Chin after recognizing India as a country. This is offcourse with their already illegitimate claim over Tibet whose govt in exile still operates. By the end most of those who want war will find the stupidest of reasons to wage it.
Yeah I never understood that either especially when she knows about the stories of her father and a few episodes ago she planned on "breaking the wheel", even including her own families name, so her asking Jon to bend the knee contradicts that
Mainly because of the audacity of not leaving her and her brother *the fuck alone* Initially, she didn't want to. Until the assassins kept coming. Well... Despite being a world away, if her mirror breathing and living was enough to threaten the current king of the seven kingdoms then that must make her the heir.
Because in back in the monarchy times of our history, people believed that royalty rulers are chosen by god. They were also trained and educated for that their whole lives. If someone takes the throne by force, it's like a rebellion against god and also high probability, that the person won't be good at it. Look at the war of roses f.e. Those who were more intelligent and focused on profits and common sense were supporting the king, who could give him more benefits. But those more "loyal" and religious ppl were secretly supporting the king, who was to inherit the throne.
They made dany care too much about the throne and not the people much like her brother viserys. In the beginning of the show she wasn’t like that at all. Prioritizing ppl before power, which is why she was granted power. But later on they made her slowly into her brother. Which is a shame.
I never watched got but recently i keep seeing these reels. I kinda want to start watching it. And they did a great job with her appearance ,she looks like a goddess
I hate in this scene how jobody pointos out that Dany is saying that Jon bend the knee based of his ancestors but she is not her father.But Jon is bound by his ancestors but Dany isnt by hers.
People are forgetting since he's adopted and actually targaryn most people are wrong about their complaints. should have fed him to the dragon before she lost it saving his little kingdom only to be betrayed.
This scene is from the final season already after she became mad, you are using circular logic: the result as evidence for the result lol To prove your point you'd have to show from an earlier point in the show that she would become like this I hate idiots who pretend to be clever
@ this scene happens in season 7, and she burned kings landing to the ground in season 8. I hate idiots who come on the internet to make their miserable lives feel better by tearing ppl they don’t know down. ESPECIALLY when they don’t fact check first.
I have 2 episodes left to go.... Sansa knows Arya is a Faceless Man... Why doesnt Arya go get Cercei and its all over before missandei is gone.. arya could have fixed most of this with her skills
I wanted to rewatch this series but after watching her burn people i just cant look at her the same. Im sure theres some noble reason behind it if you pay attention. But it was disgusting to watch her burn people who were only caught in the middle of the game of thrones
@@furtdrven2512 That is true that he is both stark and Targaryen, but the fact is that no one knows he is a Targaryen. Everyone refers to him as the bastard Jon Snow so legally he is not responsible to uphold any promises by the Starks.
You stand before Aegon of House Targaryen, sixth of his name, King of the First Men, the Andals and the Rhoynar, Lord of the seven Kingdoms and Protecter of the realm.
Key word ancestors especially house Targaryen burned his relatives alive so she can screw herself with her b.s.. she can easily forget what her dad did but not forget what his Ancestors vowed lol 😂 really is laughable her arrogance.... He owes her absolutely NOTHING at all
I am not guilty for the sins of my father, however I have paid all ancestral karmic debt in full.❤ I still love you Dad, I don't know what you did but I know you love me. I love you Dad! I'm in good hands I promise I'm going to be ok❤ Camilla
Bro thinks he's savage but a roar of three dragons is more than enough and mysa of the meeren, khaleesi of the dothraki, the unburnt, the queen in the essos and from dragonstone, a single dracarys Or angos of her can destroy the existence of humanity
Couldn't disagree more strongly. She showed her ruthlessness as far back as the first series and throughout the she showed that she was calculating, ruthless, capricious, vengeful and quick to anger. The signs of her eventual fall were always there.
@@michaelfoley906exactly. Her followers were loyal but they were slaves looking for a new master. A better master yes, but still a master to a slave. When confronted with free people, she couldn't hang politically.
If John had bent the knee i would have stopped watching immediately. John never gave his word his ancestor did and shit changes with time. He stood tall and as a man he made his own way.
ah yes lets forget what my father had done but lets not forget what your ancestor have promised
Typical woman behaviour 😂😂
lol yup
I wish Jon being a Targaryen was revealed to him before meeting Dany. We could have avoided so much bs
The two situations are not the same. One is judgement, the other is honor.
@@Nighthawk5472 it's all the past. distant past in the case of john's ancestors. no one should be beholden for the actions of their forefathers. individuals should only be beholden to their own actions.
The audacity to bring up an oath after burning his ancestors alive to a bastard who didn’t even inherit the family name in question.
@@AW-sb6gz Shock horror! No way??
Really though, I know it's terrifying but people have opinions about fictional stories and characters.
@@AW-sb6gz it’s not even a strong opinion worth commenting on. Snow is a bastard, that’s a plot point. The Queen’s ego is unreal at this point
@@AW-sb6gz honestly I'm tired of people like you. All I see is you guys saying "It'S A mOviE" like no shit Sherlock, we don't need you to tell us
@@AW-sb6gzfirst not even a movie it's a television series based off books, big difference. Second people enjoy said tv series and books passionately enough to have opinions. You are commenting on the post just makes you a troll.
@@AW-sb6gz not a movie. a series. you ain't proving nothing. if you don't like peoples opinion then why comment. we all know this is not real is logical.
"I wasn't there your grace." Dudes a savage😂
Any non main character would have been burned on the spot. (Plot Armour)
@@eduardomartinez2325 NO, she hadn't gone crazy yet
Hate to admit it but... Valid point
Which point??
@klauds6375 both points 👉 👈
@@cjmitch91 no way khaleesi’s point holds any merit after introducing the idea that more recent ancestors of hers brutalized ancestors of snow’.
Why would hate to admit it? I don’t think there’s a single person alive who would choose daenerys over John
@@significantgumption Not to ,mention, her whole point stands on the fact that the Targarians are the "rightful" monarchs of westeros.
When the Targarians were only in westeros for the last 350 years.
Whilst the Starks ruled the north for over 4000 years before the Targarians came along and conquered them.
The Starks literally have over 4000 years of being Kings and Queens of the North. They are the ones who should be ruling all of Westeros.
That or the Martells should rule the south, the Starks the North and then the Arryns can have the Vale I guess.
Very wise Man with a diplomatic words... the answers from her dismisses her requirements of bending knees...
she expects his ancestor's oath to hold up but doesn't want to be held for her familys issues (which is ironic because they're the same family)
Another who doesn't understand 😂
They both didn't know! They are aunt and nephew! Funny, huh? Irony is a Christian!
just commenting on your interpretation - i see it the exact opposite: He wouldn't forgetor forgive her father's actions even though he literally just received an apology from the queen over her father's actions. He was the one trying to rewrite history wanting to ignore and not be held to the oath as both parties were very aware of and both understood its outcome to have meant the same.
@@alfredoortiz6756 i know they didnt know which makes it funnier
@@alicesiecker2302that oath was long dead, especially considering Ned Stark was a key part of getting rid of the Targeryans in the first place.
I wish Jon would have pointed out that the last King in the North was actually Robb Stark. The Young Wolf swore the Targaryens no oaths, and the North swore to know no king but whose name is Stark
You realise this is all made-up crap, right?
She walked directly into that one
I never understood her arrogance claiming being the heir of the seven kingdoms. Your father lost the war and the throne, now belongs to the Baratheons but Lannisters pretending being Baratheons took it, if you want it, you have to win the war and then, you can call yourself the queen of the Seven Kingdoms.
Something u need to learn abt international politics. Most claims make as much sense as wet bedsheets put on sale. Take pakistani claim on kashmir. The British gave independence to India and all the princely states. The princely state of Kashmir acceded to India but Pakistan laid claim over freaking nothing. Take china's. They're making claims based on garbage older than the nation. The British had control of AP and it was indian and is under indian control. But China randomly started claiming it was Tibets Aksai Chin after recognizing India as a country. This is offcourse with their already illegitimate claim over Tibet whose govt in exile still operates. By the end most of those who want war will find the stupidest of reasons to wage it.
It's no fun if a character is always perfect. Flaws give them an area to grow in and give them a good arc.
Yeah I never understood that either especially when she knows about the stories of her father and a few episodes ago she planned on "breaking the wheel", even including her own families name, so her asking Jon to bend the knee contradicts that
Mainly because of the audacity of not leaving her and her brother *the fuck alone*
Initially, she didn't want to. Until the assassins kept coming. Well... Despite being a world away, if her mirror breathing and living was enough to threaten the current king of the seven kingdoms then that must make her the heir.
Because in back in the monarchy times of our history, people believed that royalty rulers are chosen by god. They were also trained and educated for that their whole lives. If someone takes the throne by force, it's like a rebellion against god and also high probability, that the person won't be good at it.
Look at the war of roses f.e. Those who were more intelligent and focused on profits and common sense were supporting the king, who could give him more benefits. But those more "loyal" and religious ppl were secretly supporting the king, who was to inherit the throne.
They made dany care too much about the throne and not the people much like her brother viserys. In the beginning of the show she wasn’t like that at all. Prioritizing ppl before power, which is why she was granted power. But later on they made her slowly into her brother. Which is a shame.
That part she was destined to break the wheel forreal
He was there to bend the back, not the knee
That was such a great series with so may moments to remember except the failed ending.
Good ol days when Jonny boy had a spine
😂
I never watched got but recently i keep seeing these reels. I kinda want to start watching it. And they did a great job with her appearance ,she looks like a goddess
We watches them all right after the season finale on the last season. It is SOOOOO GOOD ! I suggest you give it a go
Best damn show ever!!!
"Yeah but that's different"
Both had valid points, but, one has 3 dragons, and a success for getting what she wants
Her smile fade away 🤣
Bro stands like ab acoustic 😂😂😂😂
"I wasnt there your grace"😂😂
I wasn't there ur Grace. if i wasn't there, it didn't happen
Of course
Well spoken and intelligent Jon Snow and the ambitious seven kingdoms queen Deaneris Tygerian stormborn
I hate in this scene how jobody pointos out that Dany is saying that Jon bend the knee based of his ancestors but she is not her father.But Jon is bound by his ancestors but Dany isnt by hers.
Damn. Dialogue is fire on thus show.
Like a lot in her life, she didn't see that one coming.
then she burned everyone in kings landing
No she didnt, the show writers put that in there. Along with much SA that didn't happen in the books.
madness. madness and stupidity.
Then he finds out his grandfather burned his other grandfather alive.
Good point. Hadn't realized this connection.
I HAVE to watch this!
She is so powerfull
🎉🎉yes everyone is free then!!!
I hated the corners. Therefore I am definitely upgrading
Dany solo di dracarys y listo 😊
We are nit responsible for Adam sin ..
This is make sense more than blind believing
People are forgetting since he's adopted and actually targaryn most people are wrong about their complaints.
should have fed him to the dragon before she lost it saving his little kingdom only to be betrayed.
The lessons behind this is mind-boggling! 😮😮
No one can make me like you Daenerys
I also could have sworn that your house was usurped and destroyed by Robert beratheon?
This scene shows clears as day how delusional she was, and I still don’t understand how y’all couldn’t see that she would become a mad woman.
This scene is from the final season already after she became mad, you are using circular logic: the result as evidence for the result lol
To prove your point you'd have to show from an earlier point in the show that she would become like this
I hate idiots who pretend to be clever
@ this scene happens in season 7, and she burned kings landing to the ground in season 8. I hate idiots who come on the internet to make their miserable lives feel better by tearing ppl they don’t know down. ESPECIALLY when they don’t fact check first.
@@floralo1838 whatever, second to last season, point stands
Keep trying to be clever
Is there a new season of game of throne
This happened in our family.
My goodness Emila is breathtakingly beautiful
But he promised to exchange his vowels for hers
Name?
How to Train Your Dragon
@@khalidelmikhi lol 😂
Well the oath was the starks bent the knee in exchange for their lives. When the madking start burning starks then the oath is invalid shouldnt it?
Don't judge a daughter by her father sin
Sentence make sense more than all bible words
She had no right to adk him for forgiveness of her fathers sin while trying to make him be eeapinsuble for his ancestors sin
She walked straight into that one didn’t she… women☕️
I have 2 episodes left to go.... Sansa knows Arya is a Faceless Man... Why doesnt Arya go get Cercei and its all over before missandei is gone.. arya could have fixed most of this with her skills
I wanted to rewatch this series but after watching her burn people i just cant look at her the same. Im sure theres some noble reason behind it if you pay attention. But it was disgusting to watch her burn people who were only caught in the middle of the game of thrones
he is a Snow and not a Stark
He is Stark. And Targaryen.
@furtdrven2512: NEVER
@@Msedits40 Facts do not care about your feelings, mate! 😅
@@furtdrven2512 That is true that he is both stark and Targaryen, but the fact is that no one knows he is a Targaryen. Everyone refers to him as the bastard Jon Snow so legally he is not responsible to uphold any promises by the Starks.
Logic is good
Bro killed his sister???
what is the name of this movie?
Game of Thrones - it is a tv series adapted from the 'A Song of Ice and Fire' book series
Valid point
He is house Targaryen !
Good yarn
Double standards.
Her bad acting hurts my eyes
I love this writing.
Yeah let's hope they don't fuck it up in last two seasons 😊
wasn't he a bastard if i rememberd correctly?? 😅
Wtf are all you people talking about?
You stand before Aegon of House Targaryen, sixth of his name, King of the First Men, the Andals and the Rhoynar, Lord of the seven Kingdoms and Protecter of the realm.
Right so he doesn't want to forget what her father did but he does want to forget his ancestor's vow
Key word ancestors especially house Targaryen burned his relatives alive so she can screw herself with her b.s.. she can easily forget what her dad did but not forget what his Ancestors vowed lol 😂 really is laughable her arrogance.... He owes her absolutely NOTHING at all
The fact dany just didn't burn jon alive when jon didn't bend the knee proves she is merciful and much better than aegon the conqueror
Well that’s cuz she wanted him to bend HER knee
I am not guilty for the sins of my father, however I have paid all ancestral karmic debt in full.❤
I still love you Dad, I don't know what you did but I know you love me. I love you Dad! I'm in good hands I promise I'm going to be ok❤
Camilla
beautiful wigs
She's absolutely gorgeous
Forgiveness!? Gtfo psycho 😂
But he does end up killing her
Bro thinks he's savage but a roar of three dragons is more than enough and mysa of the meeren, khaleesi of the dothraki, the unburnt, the queen in the essos and from dragonstone, a single dracarys Or angos of her can destroy the existence of humanity
Such atrocious writing
aegon targariyan
This was the first sign that Danny was not as fair as she seemed.
Couldn't disagree more strongly. She showed her ruthlessness as far back as the first series and throughout the she showed that she was calculating, ruthless, capricious, vengeful and quick to anger. The signs of her eventual fall were always there.
@@michaelfoley906exactly. Her followers were loyal but they were slaves looking for a new master. A better master yes, but still a master to a slave. When confronted with free people, she couldn't hang politically.
Kind of sounds like a modern woman these days 😂😂😂
Yes, she "signed" a contract and so did he...or did they? 🤔
If John had bent the knee i would have stopped watching immediately. John never gave his word his ancestor did and shit changes with time. He stood tall and as a man he made his own way.
This is such bad writing lol.
Shows so dumb
Women😂
They ruined this series. Get ot off my feed
She gets so arrogant in the final few season
bad writing. they ended it too quick. her character arc would have made sense over more seasons.