Putin's Forcing Switzerland to Take a Side - TLDR News
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Switzerland is about the most neutral country in the world, choosing not to take a side in either world war... or any other conflict for that matter. However, opinion in Switzerland is shifting, and it seems that Putin may be forcing them to pick a side
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Putin truly revolutionised NATO and EU politics
@The Philosoraptor imagine Switzerland joining NATO, doubt it though because they are protected by everyone else.
More like U.S. use of their economic influence to force countries into a camp.
Over a threat that is
@@lc9245 Sure, and Putin was just defending Russia from Evil Nazi Ukraine that was poised to invade with NATO armaments on every infantryman.
@@A.Martin Not by every neighbour. Austria is neutral by constitution.
You know you are on the wrong side of history when even Switzerland chooses a side and it's the opposing one.
Well we had the choice to sanction or be sactioned as well ... We had nothing to gain and so much to loose ;)
Nazi Germany would be relieved to hear that lol
The Swiss helped the Nazi.
@@Belliger1991 and who was going to sanction you?
@@geoffreycharles6330 the west would have if they thought Russia was evading sanctions via switzerland
4:36 here to reminds everyone that Geneva is not the capital of Switzerland as his statement seems to imply (“Geneva forbids the shipment of weapons”).
In fact, fun fact, de juro (by law) Switzerland has no capital and all cantons (the states forming the federation) are equal, this is also why the federal council has seven members (all from different cantons) with equal powers and the president is just one of them “with extra flavour for international relationships”. However because the parliament is located in Bern, Bern is considered the capital de facto. But definitely not Geneva😂
Thank you. I live to learn.
Geneva isn't the capital, but of course most of the world HQ are there
Geneva may not be the capital of Switzerland. But it might be somewhat close to being the capital of the world.
@@Tjalve70 Davos disagrees.
bro shut up you're actually the nerd emoji
The definition of neutrality isn't being stretched, it's evolving/maturing - as the world becomes more complicated, so neutrality develops nuances and subtleties - just as you need a strong army to safe-guard peace, you need to uphold international law against tyrants to ensure the kind of balance and lawfulness that enables you the luxury of remaining neutral.
What utter nonsense you write. Is the kind of ferryail our Mr. Cassis is telling himself to cover up the fuckup he and his administration committed. What an achievement to be named by Russia as Nr. 3 in the ranking of "unfriendly" states. Our Executives should be charged with treason.
Just a question as proof of theory (...you need to uphold international law against...)
Has the Maduro regime - esp. individuals - been sanctioned by Switzerland? There is very strong evidence that the "cartel de Los soles" is in control of a huge part of int. drug trafficking and money laundering. Furthermore, to my knowledge, CH didn't even implement the EU - Sanctions implemented on (police)support gear and Telcom against Venezuela.
@@stipebalenovic6497 they arent intervening militarily they are giving aid and siding with ukraine for humanitarian reasons. it might be other people's problems but those are still real people who are suffering near switcherland
@@stipebalenovic6497 They are only able to be Neutral because of the surrounding countries are not neutral. The same goes for Austria and Ireland.
They all certainly have figured out how to keep their cash and be safe.
Perhaps it is becoming a world where neutrality is no longer feasible. Without the protections of a larger alliance, a lone country would present an easy target for aggressive nations like Russia. Would you trust Russia to honor their neutrality if they thought they could quickly subsume Switzerland into their federation before other nations had a chance to complain?
@@stipebalenovic6497 Let the Russonazi fascists provide their own food. They can't even provide food or fuel to their own military because Russia's oligarchs are spending the funds on yachts and mansions, while failing to maintain or supply its own cannon fodder.
Swiss policy is to stay out, but join in if it's useful.
Switzerland is economically linked to neighboring countries, but always insists on its independence.
Switzerland stays out militarily, but speaks out in favor of Ukraine.
Bern is the capital of Switzerland, not Geneva as implied in a statement this video.
I like how everyone thinks we are "neutral" by us self, while we have been forced to.
by who?
@L C France, Austria, Germany, Italy, Russia, Spain, the UK, after napoleon. Switzerland ist just a big Bufferzone.
Switzerland always wanted to be neutral, that's why Nicolaus von der Flue is our national hero and patron saint. In 1815, it was simply accepted by all other nations.
@@koantao8321 You think too romantic, he was just one person among many. We were mercenaries and often butchered each other until we earned a reputation as elite soldiers. Even in World War II we were only "neutral" in self-defense. We smuggled in Jews and fought the Allies and Nazis at the same time. Because of the border or because they confused Germany with Switzerland. Russia is not our neighbor, so fuck false neutrality. We all want Putins end.
The first definition was by us - as mentioned in the video after the defeat of Marigniano in (which ended with an orderly retreat). Switzerland stated to stay away from foreign meddelings (fremde Händel). This neutrality and independence was then internationally recognized in 1648 with the peace of Westphalia.
And with the exception some infringements of Grisons and the puppet government of 1799-1806 it stayed that way.
People forget that Switzerland put similar sanctions on other nations like Iran and N Korea, yet nobody saw that as breaking Neutrality (looking at you, SVP / Swiss Peoples Party). Also, we clearly took a side in the cold war by not throwing over capitalism and becoming communists.
No business interest by the SVP Oligarchs in those places. They always redefine anything to serve their current short term interests.
@@beyondEV unfortunately, I agree
It's different, those sanction where implemented by the UN, but Russia won't sanction themselves 😉
A lot of people from the outside (including in the rest of Europe) don't fully understand Switzerland's flavor of neutrality. Switzerland is what I would call aggressively neutral. They were just as likely to shoot down American planes encroaching their airspace as German ones during WWII. And honestly, I totally understand it. They have to remain consistent in their neutrality, otherwise it isn't neutral. However, this has only ever really applied militarily, not politically.
I actually fear losing the neutral states like Switzerland and Austria, as they have been vital to facilitating cooperation across opposing forces, even beyond Europe. These countries are incredibly valuable to global cooperation, and while I understand the urge to get absolutely everyone against Russia, I still think we should strive to keep these forums in the form of neutral states.
From a Swiss side, it is officially called "Armed Neutrality".
Only thing missing now is a video on the massive impact of Liechtenstein possibly joining NATO??
It will be so over for China and Russia bros
Switzerland would have to preemptively occupy Liechtenstein for its own security.😁
I think it would be even better if the Vatican joined NATO.
Austria also has (or at least had) the law that every house must be build with a basic fallout shelter
4:42 you said Geneva using it as representative of all of Switzerland like London is to the UK. But Geneva isn't the capital of Switzerland, Bern is
Switzerland 's banking success depends on the country's neutrality. Removing neutrality means losing the much valued preference for their banking
Successfully thrashed by the Swiss Government by Feb. 24. 2022
Russia isn't worth the effort and opprobrium.
You are making a really good point about neutrality.
As you say neutrality can be interpruted as "not going to war". You mention that Switzerland was completly surrounded by the Axis in ww2 and traded with them despite being neutral, who could blame them? Surely the Allies did after the war, but had Switerland any choise? Did the allies want Switzerland to starve on thier own delight? The same happend to Sweden. They were also neutral back then and despite having a coast, it was still surrounded by Germany and the Hitler made clear that any swedish ships outside its territorial waters would be sunked. Sweden didn´t want war and if they complied to german demands then just "maybe" it would be spared from invasion. And it worked, Sweden managed to stay out of the horrors of war depite the Allies complaint of trading/dealing with the Germans.
(The problem with history is that no one knew at the time, when the Axis seemed to win, that the allies was going to win in the end, we only know that from 1945 and up till today)
Why does has anybody a problem that Switzerland traded with the Axis? Neutrality means, you can trade with both parties on pre-war conditions. Germany was the main trading partner for Switzerland before the war. It would have been suicidal for Switzerland not to trade with the axis.
@@ロース-z7m Exactly my point.
Always interesting content. Thank you!
bravo, well summarized!
Despite recent events, I don't see Switzerland joining EU or NATO in the next 20 years. Neutrality is deeply ingrained in this country's DNA.
Not to mention the banking system!
your dna is gonna be gone in 20 years
Next will be "can Putin force aliens to reveal their nature even without forcing them to leave the Vatican?"
I think you might be able to build a definition of neutrality in such a manner that you can remain some how neutral but still sanctioning those who choose not to obey to basic rules which are required to protect neutrality in the first place…
Giant shout-out to Putin for his short-sighted, pointless arrogance. He's single-handedly made NATO great again. Glory to Ukraine and the Ukrainian people. A moment of destiny that will be remembered for all time. Long live the fighters!
soon ukr will vanish from maps.
@@siamcharm7904 Uh huh😂 Remember when Russia tried to take Kyiv and failed miserably?
Thanks to western arming and full mobilization Ukraine is only getting stronger. If Russia wants to even hold the gains they’ve made they’ll need to fully mobilize and call up the reserves, yet they haven’t
You mean got suckered by Merica bidding
Neutrality is like abstaining from a vote, sometimes even remaining neutral means you're de facto picking a side
1:29 this is not only painfully incorrect, it is simply wrong. The major european leaders met from September 1814 to June 1815 after the Battle of Leipzig in October 1813. The Battle of Waterloo was in June 1815. So eaven thoug the English did save the results of the Congress of Viena in Waterloo, the united Russians, Austrians, Prussians, Swedens, Mecklenburg-Schwerinians, Saxons and Württembergians where the ones who defeated Napoleon in the first place and enabled the Congress.
1:28 The Congress of Vienna had already started before the 100 days and Waterloo.
I will be very honest this is a very deciving titel/video, switzerland has already picked sides and did not take the neutral route because they joined the eu and nato with its own sanction/freezing of accounts of russian oligarchs (as you said). True neutrality would have been to leave them be (the oligarchs) so putin is not really doing something out of order, eu/nato has slowely been getting closer to switzerland... so no it is not putin, just like with sweden and finland, they are using this as a front. All those countries have been "flirting" with the eu/ nato for decades they are just using this as areason to convince their populations.
Defence;
Also when it comes to defence literature switzerland is a natural fotress, thats how it has been characterised for centuries now, even historically when Switzerland was just a bunch of towns the french could not get to them (this is way before napoleon), then when the french defeated them, french had heavy loses and also the swiss were always known for their bravery on the battlefield/ fighting skills. The fanlax formations of back in the day were swiss, infact mercenaries from modern day switzerland where rented out even sometimes by opposing armies because of how effective they where agaisnt the knights and finally this history is why the swiss to this day send their soldiers to guard the pope because they have saved the popes before, switzerland doesnt need nato or a defence union, russia is too far away, they are defensively almost impossible for a single nation to invade eaily unless the invaders literally wants to pay atleast 2 of thiers for every swiss (thats the minimum probably higher).
Switzerland has already sanctioned countries before
@@hissukka6619 true, you are right in saying this and the usually do it in defence of human rights. but they have never done it so quickly, never to this extent and never a superpower, for example they never sanctioned us or uk for iraq,libya and afgansitan because of their human rights abuses, they never sanctioned china for the ughers (because they put them in concentration camps) and they never sanctioned India for what they are doing to the Sikhs or the muslims over there🤷🏻♂️. This is highly unusual from the Swiss.
@@hussain7675 TL;DR sry
@@hissukka6619 ???
4:22. Finland mandate shelters also ;)
Switzerland should remain neutral. Changing their status can bring in so many political challenges and difficulties which they don't currently have which can tear apart their population and laws.
As a Swiss, i think distancing ourselves from neutrality is a big mistake. I mean we had like 172 years of peace, thanks to neutrality.
And 172 years ago was a Civil War with less victims than the Ukraine war has in a day.
Yes, and Switzerland sold supplies and ammo to the Nazis as late as 1944...
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 yes also today Switzerland sells ammo and supplies to Germany.
As a Swiss, I totally agree with you.
But we need legalize weed! Urgently!!!
@@florianmaier104 Switzerland also has a much lower population than Ukraine.
I don't think anyone should fuck with the inventors of the Suisse knife.
Why does Geneva forbid the shipment of arms?
Normally that's a phrase used with the capital of a state, which, in this case, would be Bern.
Switzerland already gave up its neutrality with the sanctions/stance on Russia.
In the movie version of "The List of Adrian Messenger", starring George C. Scott, a character asks their host "And what did you do during the War?" Their host's wife acerbically interrupts "During the War my husband was SWISS!"
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Back when France, Italy and Germany were independent powers it made sense to be neutral as the major powers could be played against each other, but now they're all part of the EU this is impossible.
A band of neutral countries from the Arctic to the Black Sea would have prevented the current hostilities. This should have been the policy post 1990.
Funny thing with all the guns in the country that Switzerland doesn't have regular school shootings.
Switzerland was never been "neutral" in the sense that they don't get involved in anything.
They just don't join permenent alliances so they won't be obligated to partake in conflicts(military or otherwise) that doesn't benefit Switzerland.
Historically, the country has always been involved in politics and tends to profit by playing super powers off of each other.
8:48 That editing though! /)
@4.42 the impression is given that political decision-making happens in Geneva. It doesn't. Berne is the center of political life on a federal level in Switzerland.
Uh, if your actively sending supplies to one nation engaged in battle with another, your not neutral.
At this point anything is possible including nukes.
Europe in 1812 was a hugely different place than the united Europe of today. Europe doesn't war against itself any more. That's why we're shocked when neighbors like Russia or Serbia conduct war & genocide next door.
Federer didn't serve because of a knee injury which made the military consider him unsuitable. It can vary significantly depending on the year in which you're brought to their propaganda day in a military base (caserne), but if you really don't want to serve they won't force you. I had a recurring meniscus problem at the time I was supposed to serve so they didn't even consider me. The reason is actually financial; should a person who they've forced to serve have a serious injury which would leave them impaired for life, the army would be forced to give that person a lifelong pension which is obviously expensive. So generally they don't take risks on that type of case.
Wasn't it a back injury? Never mind.
To be fair to Roger Federer, literally everyone who doesn't want to join the army can do that (more or less legally). You just either have to do a civilian service, or pay (an amount most people can afford)
@@0x00DE his bloody knees are also playing up haha, it's why he can never beat Djokovic!
3:01 never joined NATO proceeds to show EU with a cross on it, followed up by the same thing the other way around.
6:47 interesting, so we're talking about following in Finland's footsteps 😉
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I think that’s the best way for the Swiss to help without abandoning their neutrality, by sending aid they can take a stand agains unwarranted aggression and invasion but not actually add to military action
As a Swiss citizen, I can confirm that there are very little if not no chances that Switzerland joins NATO in the near future.
Neutrality is what kept us alive so far, and prevented us from doing silly mistakes. It’s deeply imbedded in our genetics.
But as we say here, neutrality doesn’t mean indifference. What’s happening in Ukraine is a clear breach of international laws and we simply couldn’t stand by and do nothing at all. This would have been being indifferent, which we are not. Our sanctions towards Russia were taken in order to show our unconditional support for international order and rule of law. Helping and welcoming Ukrainians is also part of this, getting involved in an organisation that specially targets a country however not.
Btw: Our capital is Bern, not Geneva 😉
Switzerland (and Liechtenstein) has not been defacto neutral for >30 years having had picked sides on loads of issues although they were previously "neutral" but not anymore having started to pick sides on implementing sanctions against countries such as Russia, N. Korea, Iran etc...
Stretched further. Got it
Austria is nearer to Russia than Switzerland is, and Austria is not even talking about this. Seems to me that TLDR news EU (the clue is in their name) is creating an unnecessary narrative.
I think the reason the Swiss took a bit of a stance for the first time in hundreds of years is because they don't want it to turn into a WW2 situation where everyone knows them for having tons of Nazi gold that the Nazis stole from Jews, and allowing Nazi Germany to trade through them. That was a true neutral stance, as when German planes entered Swiss airspace the Swiss did shoot them down, they also did the same to American bombers heading to Italy and Germany during the later parts of the war. They were a truly neutral state trading with both sides and respecting international law, but even still many people look poorly on them for their trade and actions with Nazi Germany. So they likely don't want that to happen again and are taking limited action against Russia to avoid future controversy.
Switzerland says, we hold billions of US dollars and trillions of roubles deposited by Russian leaders and citizens in Swiss accounts. If Russia threatens us, we’ll take over Russian money. 😂😂😂
lmao
I'd LOVE to believe that a small, land-locked country that has explicitly rejected any possibly of defense from other countries will never be seem as easy pickings far a stronger expansionist state. I'd hate to just stand by and see Switzerland gobbled up by Hungary, one of the least stable NATO members that is clearly in a non-democratic path.
I'm sure they'd put up an epic fight, but then so is Ukraine.
"Not going to war" then war comes to you. Maybe, just maybe you should have joined!
Great video!
Geneva is NOT the capital city of Switzerland...
Swiss is not the only country who supplied Ukraine with humanitarian aid.
It's also easy to ban flights from Russia to fly to Switzerland because they have to fly over NATO territory first which NATO doesn't allow.
LONG LIVE SWISS NEUTRALITY
In Russia it seems that being "neutral" means nothing. So anyway Switzerland might as well better join NATO for all that matters
@The Philosoraptor As a Swiss i‘m pretty sure that we will not join Nato anytime soon
Most people here want to stay neutral
@@andarara-c1p Why? We don't have any hostile neighbours, so there's no reason to join
@@timohummel9996 "neutrality" is a very over-stated thing in the current events.
@The Philosoraptor Most Swiss people think that those sanctions do not mean that switzerland will abandone its neutrality
8 milion franks is just 1 for every citizen
While regular Swiss worker earn like 30 or 40 franks PER HOUR
It is really not significant...
Drink every time they say: Anyway! in every video. You will get wasted. It's just so annoying.
Not picking a side and allowing tyranny to rule, is the same as picking the side of tyranny.
Uhm... The capital of Switzerland is Bern... Not Geneva.
What does 'neutrality' really mean? Would it remain 'neutral' if invaded? Is neutrality the same as 'non-aligned?
Getting Europe to work together in it's own interests is a lot like herding cats. One of them is always going to start wandering off, or get distracted playing with something or start hissing and swatting at the others.
Charles de Gaulle getting pissy at NATO in the 60s.
Brexit
Victor Orban and other nationalist movements.
Greek and Bulgarian petty spats with Macedonia
The Gibraltar dustless
The unresolved Cyprus situation
The Troubles on Northern Ireland
Iceland"s Cod Wars with the UK
The Norwegian and Swiss's decision to do EFTA, not the EU.
Flanders v.s. Wallonie
Endless seperatists movements
Serbs vs. Croats ve. Bosniaks
Switzerland already stopped being neutral since 1999 when it put sanctions on NATO.
Geneva is not the capital of Switzerland, Bern is.
Can you make a video on why borway isnt in the EU?
Putin can't force anyone into violence. People chose violence and are responsible for their own actions.
SCREAMS IN BRILLIANT!
So there are some swiss who are willing to join NATO but not ditch neutrality. This does show a rather loose definition of neutrality.
Geneva isn’t the Capital
Impossible.
You can never “really” be neutral… you have the luxury of neutrality when you are safe….
If Swiss would be located like in Estonia, you think they would be neutral?
I got a question I am curious about: a few years ago, people in the middle east were fleeing from ISIS and various countries tried to help but also saw them as a major burden for understandable reasons. Now people are fleeing Ukraine and, despite suffering from a pandemic and a rapid inflation, countries are doing all they can to house and support the people of Ukraine. My question is how has the public sentiment changed between then and now? Or maybe it has to do with Ukraine having a culture similar the EU where the Middle Easterners have a different culture. Just curious. Note: I am not opposed to the people of Ukraine receiving aid. This is a very good thing! I just would like to understand why things are the way they are.
European racism, simple.
2:40
I mean
What other choice did they have without getting railed by the German
Suppose every Russian on a plane is now going to say they're a diplomat
Switzerland kinda does not have a president, they have a person representing the decision of the government but he is not a president.
Also there are alternatives to participate in the military.
as far as i know you still call him president or *Bundespräsident* even though he doesn't have more power
I'm sorry to say this, but your country is out of neutral zone, when other countries list you as, "Enemy" or "not safe". Obviously, Switzerland, no matter part of the EU, or NATO, still likely leans closer to to these two entities. Mostly because most of its immigrants are from them, and come on, let's be honest, it's smacked down right in the center of them. But, I can say, Switzerland does get a lot of smack around for them, since their politics and economy relatively won't budge much on the Russo-Ukrainian conflict. But, you have to say, since Russia made the move of putting them on the enemy list, their neutrality is gone, just like that.
Roger Federer became part of the Civil Protection Service iinstead of military service
Switzerland has already chosen their side
Swiss are frozen stiff like
a field mouse hypnotized
by a slithering snake. Sa..ad!
Putin reminded Europe that even though some Europeans are not cool but dont forget about the real threat
At a time when Switzerland is surrounded by friendly nations, neutrality has become absolutely meaningless. And to add insult to injury, Switzerland already is highly aligned with Nato, the Swiss army using Nato standard calibers and tactics. Switzerland's neutrality is a pretend-neutrality only and she might as well stop the pretense.
You must be from Africa
@@SeraphimRoad you must be racist.
What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?
The few billions of the oligarchs weren’t frozen because Switzerland wanted to take a side. It is kind of a insurance fee to not set their business model in danger - taking vast amounts of money from almost everyone with little restrictions. Money given to Swiss banks to work with, money that is spent in Switzerland. Money that keeps the Swiss economy running and the standard of living high. Switzerland is just doing so much to not anger the other countries and to please their own domestic majority. They are master tacticians when it comes to that. There are no ethnic rules behind all of this - what people often get wrong about Switzerland is that the country isn’t kind of a small and better Germany with a cude accent.
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You have done it a few times now.
Given the strong collaboration everyone on Nebula has...
I listen to lots of generally smart stuff in my car on my commute and I couldn't tell if you were participating in the smarter every day brand name until I was done driving and looked into it.
You're in the same space. Don't use it man.
When Finland and Sweden joined NATO, I said that Putin had caused what the likes of Stalin, Brezhnev, and Khrushchev had been able to avoid the whole Cold War. Now Putin may end up doing what even Hitler was able to avoid.
3:00 you mixed up the eu and nato symbols
Federer was exempt from serving in the Swiss armed forces because he had some back problems.
Bruh, I almost want to be a temporary refugee to get to stay in a Swiss Airbnb for free. Ski those alps and eat that schnitzel
Schnitzel?
Being militaristically neutral, doesn't mean you have to be politically neutral. Pretty sure, Swiss is not applying neutrality when deciding to invest in North Korea or The Netherlands.
Who the F... does Putin think he is?!
Who the F... do you think you are?
You need every one to follow the rules (of not invading neutral entities as an example)… therefore you can have sanctions against those too rogue to follow international laws like 🤍💙💔 and could decide to provide other kind of assistance than military to 💙💛СУ🫡🇺🇦
There are no international laws. What the heck are you talking.
You know you screwed up when you can make Switzerland question it's own neutrality.
Wish
Casting
As a Swiss, Switzerland screwed up by giving up our neutrality
@@JP-ze3dt I swear, they lost their trust
@@JP-ze3dt Switzerland's neutrality only works well because all countries around are friendly. just like for austria. If CH was bordering Russia, belarus or any other authoritarian country around the world(china, NK), the neutrality would be short lived.
@@dagoncalves1986 Worked well for hundreds of years though...
A podcast the other day with someone from the Swiss Government said that Switzerland is militarily, not politically neutral. This seems reasonably consistent with their actions.
summed up well, otherwise id have to laugh and call it a novelty.
Yea, that the huge missunderstanding about "neutral" Sweden aswell.
Exactly
@@Dinstyvmorsa8539 Finland was pretty much in the same boat. Good practice for troll spotting.
what podcast was that?
It'll be interesting to see how the Swiss agree to define their neutrality. With their recent sanctions and strong public support for Ukraine, I believe that Switzerland will begin to make a slow turn towards working with NATO and EU countries. Unlike Finland however, Switzerland doesn't directly border a violent nondemocratic country and has no reason to make drastic changes in the immediate future.
+ even if it did border someone, Switzerland is probably the best natural fortress in the world, so at least Russia would have zero chances to conquer it.
Well it depends the diplomatic force of the EU to convince the swiss to step in line is hostile at times^^
the swiss have already been doing this, they have been "flirting" with nato/eu for a while now.
@@hussain7675 i honestly would not call our onesided relationship fliting ^^ we have barly any bargening power we try to give as little as possible and this consessioons to stay independent might look like a flirt from the outside ^^
@@Belliger1991 you are rignht but for some time now you the swiss (I assume you are a swiss national) have only flirted with one side. If you want to be a player and undependent/unrelient on one side, you have to flirt with multiple sides. You have only flirted with russia a little, no china and no india. On tinder you dont match 1 person and you expect that to be the only one, you match with a few and talk to all of them a little.😅
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As a Swiss citizen I feel that there might be two types of neutrality. One is the obvious one, the military neutrality. We won't go to war, but if you come and attack us, we'll give you something to chew on. We won't participate in a war by sending weapons or troops. Also sending ammunition to a country like Germany, that will send it to a country at war is already a tricky one too. The other side is the political neutrality. There I believe not acting is also a form of breaching our neutrality. We can't just watch and not help, humanitarian aid and sanctions are necessary and in my opinion non negotiable. Letting a warmonger bring his money into Switzerland is something we should not do again, we should've learned this lesson by now.
Neutrality isn't a good thing.
@@jeffmorris5802 neutrality is a diplomatic tool when hostile powers can meet in a place open exactly for this purpose where none of the powers have a negative history towards the neutral host and vice versa. During the cold war the Swiss neutrality was more often than not host for exactly this purpose. I see no reason why the Swiss should give up their neutrality. When wars are ending and peace talks are near we can host these events with no bad feelings for any side.
@@dasmouse2557 ... Why the f*** should we cater to Russia? Ukraine is the victim here.
@@jeffmorris5802 If by 'victim' you mean who drew first blood, I think you're right.
If the Swiss help to feed the flames of war by shipping weapons to either side they no longer remain neutral. I'm not sure if the Swiss could afford destabilizing that in the long run. Once again, wars end, peace talks commence. The way we conduct ourselves in war can helps to determines how quickly everyone involved returns to a normal way of life without war.
I'm not Swiss citizen. IMO sending military or financial aid, or even humanitarian aid *exclusively* to one side is NOT neutral.
Remember that it is not enough for you to declare yourself to be "neutral", because you need others to acknowledge and accept your neutrality as well.
In this case, Russia/Putin's regime is clearly the one who instigated the war, therefore you have moral and legal justification to sanction Russia/Putin's regime. However doing that means you are *no longer being neutral.*
Right now, you are *actively harming* Russian interest while Russia did nothing to you (at least directly).
You are *meddling* in other countries affairs in the name of "international law", something Russia clearly does not acknowledge or adhere to. Again, that's NOT neutral.
That being said, IMO if majority of Swiss citizens no longer desire this "neutrality" then the govt/state should just abandon it.
As an American, never thought of how difficult it was to be neutral.
The desire to help must be overcome by the temperance of maintaining one's resolve to be neutral.
Yeah, it's tough I would imagine. Being a superpower you create a side, the smaller countries have to choose between the sides the bigger countries create, or risk staying neutral and hoping.
Its a little more complicated than that. its not just the desire to help. Non-action is still an action. This is the argument the Swiss are making when they provide relief to Ukraine. They are upholding the 'neutral democratic order' rather than standing by on the sidelines and enabling, and thus defacto siding with, tyranny.
And, at the end of the day, everyone in the world will do everything in their power to make your choices a binary and force you into their corner.
The United is the least neutral country in the world. 🏳
Saying 'no' to the US is a risky proposition.
This is largely why Ukraine couldn't have possibly remained neutral. Switzerland has everything it needs to ensure its sovereignty and neutrality without being gobbled up by a bigger power. They're surrounded by mountains and up until recently the entire nation's highway and bridge and railway system was rigged to self destruct, so that any and all invaders would be stopped from pushing too deep. Also, they clearly have enough money to support a large military, and almost every household has a weapon which would be used to defend to homeland.
Switzerland doesn't need NATO membership, since they are surrounded by NATO member and don't have any imminent threat
As a Swiss I can only say that I am proud of my country's neutrality. I think it is safe to say that most Swiss people support the idea that our country should not actively participate (by deploying our militia army) in armed conflicts that do not directly threaten us. Nevertheless, being neutral does not mean not having an opinion. Switzerland is a democratic state under the rule of law. Those who allow themselves to do what they want and impose their will using weapons cannot and must not be supported in any way. By not acting, Switzerland would in fact be taking the side of the aggressor of Ukraine and international law. We did take part in the sanctions, but not because NATO or the EU told us we had to. We did it because we believe that respect for international law is what guarantees world peace. Where law is trampled underfoot, the law of the strongest prevails.
likewise for Singapore's stance on Ukraine issue. just hope the other tiger ain't gonna try to kick a fuss right now... (not that they can even afford to right now with the hell on earth in shanghai, they are more cat right now than tiger...)
All very nice. But, Switzerland is either truly neutral, or it is not. Switzerland cannot impose sanctions on Russia all the while labouring the tedious point to the world that they are still neutral. As any woman would tell you, you cannot be a little bit pregnant.
@@user-kc1tf7zm3b did you just compare supporting a war with being pregnant?
You can only be neutral because you are surrounded ny Nato members!! You "neutrality narrative" is a cheap way to exploit your geographical position surrounded by Nato states (=safety) and not having to pay for this extra safety!
So 8 years of signed Minsk agreements violated by Ukraine are not a problem for international law? 🧐🤔