How To Re-Key or Repair a Lock (Honda High Security)

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  • @taserpulse
    @taserpulse 3 роки тому +11

    Really appreciate your patience. Not only do you work on these delicate stuff plus you explain the stuff as you go. Not to forget adjusting the camera angles in the middle of your progress. Thank you. Can't imagine me doing all this in the middle of my flow.

  • @billpong5597
    @billpong5597 Місяць тому

    EricTheCarGuy,
    your re key video is the best reference, thank you for posting this important video. i purchased the pin kit, and recoded a pair of new door cylinders for my 2013 Honda Fit. i just did the swap today, and everything works as it should. again many thanks for posting this invaluable video for the DIY'er who was always told by honda dealerships that recoding the door cylinders was an expensive task, and that the locksmith is always difficult to contact or too busy... what a crock...
    take care and dont stop de-mystifying DIY auto repair !!!

  • @diablo24guitar
    @diablo24guitar 3 роки тому +3

    HI Eric! I've done this to a Honda Element, a Toyota Tundra, and a Lexus. I only wish that you had this video out years ago. I figured it out on my own, but having the ETC blessing always helps.

  • @danielm.2534
    @danielm.2534 3 роки тому

    Been a Subscriber for years. Never made any comments until now and it has nothing to do with this Video. I have a ‘96 Acura RL that has sounded like an Airplane for several months. Thank goodness for ETCG! Took me 25 minutes from start to finish.🤘 Once I removed the 36mm Nut the Hub practically fell off into my hands. Glad my race didn’t separate like yours 😬

  • @outdoorinwithzach
    @outdoorinwithzach 3 роки тому +72

    As a former locksmith who's had to work on atleast fifty Honda locks, your not the first. All of their high security locks will have issues eventually. You don't have to replace the cylinder. You just have to replace the high security wafers or take out all but the last three. They wear out and then stick up causing you to not be able to turn the lock.

    • @ratagris21
      @ratagris21 3 роки тому +4

      Good info to know.

    • @bahjinelson3986
      @bahjinelson3986 3 роки тому

      I have this issue with my 2003 Honda CRV. The driver side door will not unlock with the key, which means that I carry the fob with me. I'd like to get a key with a built in fob along with fixing the tumbler but the Honda dealer says that it's impossible to get such a key because they don't have one with a transponder, though I've seen these keys for sale and I don't believe the dealer. Any ideas?

    • @outdoorinwithzach
      @outdoorinwithzach 3 роки тому +1

      @@bahjinelson3986 oh sorry I never saw this comment. They are correct. For your year of car they did not. You'd have to go aftermarket which can cause lots of issue later. Find a local locksmith and see if you can get it fixed.

    • @bahjinelson3986
      @bahjinelson3986 3 роки тому

      @@outdoorinwithzach Thank you. Maybe I'll just fix the tumblers and leave the fob at home.

    • @Scott-jw2dy
      @Scott-jw2dy 3 роки тому +3

      @@ratagris21 Is it possible to modify (leave out the pins?) a worn tumbler so that any Honda key would work in it? The odds of someone trying their keys in my beat up car are slim to none

  • @jimmyblair7597
    @jimmyblair7597 Рік тому +1

    As a man with 3 sons and a brother with Honda's I have run into lock issues myself. I ordered the kit you linked and have an Accord to work on this weekend. Thank you for this video, I have watched numerous videos you have made, THANK YOU! Hope things are going well for you, I know that lots of things have changed for you. From Minnesota, thanks again.

  • @yasmanibarajas7278
    @yasmanibarajas7278 3 роки тому +3

    Best video I've seen today. I will try it on my car cause I hate having a door key and an ignition key. Awesome video!🤙🤙

  • @MrPaulrak
    @MrPaulrak Рік тому +1

    Thank you for posting this video. Un fortunately, I have a co-worker who thinks it's funny to prank with red loctite. It was either spend over $100 at Honda for a lock and key that would be different, or spend $100 for the kit for the repair, plus have plenty of spares for any future foolishness and all my other Hondas. For some reason I had trouble with the #4 half tumbler possibly due to key or tumbler barrel wear, so I left it out. It works great. Thanks so much for such a clear and understandable video. Keep up the good work.

    • @johnhogan9176
      @johnhogan9176 2 місяці тому +1

      what we all want to know is what you did to the ahole coworker. It is not a prank when it damages your stuff and costs you money. see how funny he thinks it is when you slash his tires or key his car. That's his type of prank right.

  • @johnreid859
    @johnreid859 3 роки тому +5

    Good information. I just took a file to a trunk cylinder and made it work. Security wasn’t a concern, only that it opened. I didn’t have a Ford wafer kit.

    • @nugget5103
      @nugget5103 8 місяців тому

      I like your style, did it still need a key to open it, or could you open it with anything?

  • @steves563
    @steves563 3 роки тому +3

    I went through this last year with an ignition lock that would not turn on a 98 Honda Accord. In my case it turned out to be a worn out key.. When I called a local locksmith he told me that it’s normally the key not the cylinder that wears out. So I went to my Honda dealer and they cut me new keys from my vin and they worked perfect even better than the worn out keys which I guess is not surprising.
    I too was prepared to replace the ignition lock cylinder and go through all the pains including updating the door key locks but didn’t have to. 👍🏻

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  3 роки тому

      A very common issue. Glad you got it sorted. Thanks for the comment.

    • @mattfoley6082
      @mattfoley6082 3 роки тому

      My 2003 key was very worn down and stopped unlocking the driver door but it still worked everywhere else. Dealer wanted $250 for new key and programming. Found local locksmith who came to my house and cut new key and programmed it for $150. He said the old key is so worn out that continuing to use it will ruin the ignition lock. The old key is visibly worn down and thinner than the new key; I had no idea until I saw it next to the new key. I still have to replace my driver door lock.

  • @citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936

    You do a very good job explaining how this works. Most who make auto videos do a poor job on auto locks and keys.
    My experience as a locksmith... the only wafers I will use for Honda are OEM NEW. The aftermarket ASP ones I have, I shelved. I will not use them. My professional opinion is the quality is poor. The original kit can be bought through a Honda Dealer ( About 300.00 ). BONUS... The HONDA Kit comes with 10 door lock cylinder plugs and 6 trunk plugs... they work on MANY of the 2002-2005-ish vehicles. So if the lock is trashed a bit, you will be able to make it like new.
    The most critical aspect of this job, is replacing a damaged cylinder, and starting with a fresh key, cut by code on a very precise machine. I have an ignition that can not be saved... the center "drive shaft" was damaged by car owner wrenching on the key. I have never seen a damaged honda shaft before, and I have service over 2000 ignition and door locks since Honda introduced this design in +/-2002.
    Keeping all the locks keyed alike is helpful if the keys ever get lost, and it allows transplanting the chips from the old key into a fresh key that is made with provision for the chip.
    The correct lubricant for Honda/Acura is petroleum jelly ( Vasoline ) it is what comes in the factory kit, and what I find in half the vehicle makes and models.... the ones that do not use Petroleum jelly use Lithium paste grease. Just, ofr the love of GOD, do not use graphite or teflon or WD-Anything! IT will react with the factory lube, andgum up the lock.
    Your favorite locksmith can harvest the chip from the worn-out key, and put it in the new key, avoiding programming!
    If you replaced the ignition, the new one could be removed and rekeyed to match the original coding, it all depends how many locks there are around the car, which will be less work.

    • @loganmedia4401
      @loganmedia4401 8 місяців тому

      How does graphite react with vaseline to gum up a lock?

  • @basshnter1997
    @basshnter1997 2 місяці тому

    Just want to say thanks for the thorough informative video.
    Ordered a kit from Ebay and repaired my 03 crv tailgate lock cylinder.
    Works like new and for about $20 .

  • @jonathanbanos2216
    @jonathanbanos2216 11 місяців тому

    This was extremely helpful. I learned something new I can do forever. Not to mention you saved me about $250 I didn’t have. You helped me so much !

  • @waynetanner1749
    @waynetanner1749 3 роки тому +3

    Very useful. Keys can be tricky to rekey yourself and yes, a locksmith can rekey in about 30 mins for a reasonable price which means much cheaper than the Dealer. Thanks 🙏

    • @ShadowcasterZero
      @ShadowcasterZero 2 роки тому

      if a locksmith can rekey a honda lock, they'll probably be able to cut a new key and program it too. Don't be afraid to ask a locksmith!

    • @mightyconker3903
      @mightyconker3903 Рік тому

      And even if they do it in 20 minutes you will pay a huge amount

  • @danyeldan2139
    @danyeldan2139 2 роки тому

    Great after watching your Video I bought after market key cylinder for 2011 Hyundai sonata limited because I didn't want to use two different key I removed the cylinder and start changing couple toots and I use my old housing now works perfect on my original key thankyou for you showing the important way to do it

  • @mrjsv4935
    @mrjsv4935 3 роки тому +5

    Very interesting, never seen before how the car lock cylinders actually work :) I once ordered a new key to one of my previous cars and the locksmith just needed to know the key code from the car's service book and he made working key very quickly. This car didn't have yet any immobilizers, so no programming required.

    • @citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936
      @citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 Рік тому

      Those were the days! I often exploit the bad practices of the auto industry. Cars no longer have the key code numbers put all over the place like they used to

  • @LucidOne8
    @LucidOne8 3 роки тому +1

    stay fun dude im going to mechanic school now been watching you for years

  • @jasonelizanigel9381
    @jasonelizanigel9381 3 роки тому +8

    Very interesting video to watch this Friday. Almost reminded me of a Lockpickinglawyer video lol.

    • @allenjpl
      @allenjpl 3 роки тому +3

      What I have for you today is a broken Honda High Security Lock. With this wafer tool that Bosnian Bill and I made, I can open it in .. oh wait. I just opened it. To make sure it's not a fluke...

  • @sjn7220
    @sjn7220 3 роки тому +1

    Recently did this on my ford fusion ignition lock that was having some issues. I followed the guide that came with the kit and worked perfectly. Did it by measurement and not trial and error.

  • @sleeper98
    @sleeper98 3 роки тому +1

    Got a Kwikset rekeying kit awhile back and have saved myself tons of money with our rent house and the new house we moved into. A little time consuming, but nice to know that's 1 more thing I don't have to hire out. Same deal with cars too if you're going to do very many.

  • @mattfoley6082
    @mattfoley6082 3 роки тому +1

    I was able to get my driver door lock working by taking the cylinder apart and cleaning. There was just enough dirt and metal fragments inside to make the lock get stuck. I sprayed it with brake cleaner and used a cotton swab to clean the gunk from contact surfaces. I checked the key insertion and rotation several times and it works fine. Very happy I don't have to buy a new cylinder or tumblers.
    Now that I've said that let's see how long it works before I have problems again! It's a 2003 so I got 18 years out of it with no problems. Can't complain about that, I guess.

  • @CorradoAlley
    @CorradoAlley 3 роки тому +1

    I've rekeyed VW locks and its relaxing zen like experience if not rushed. Good stuff thanks

  • @scallywag1716
    @scallywag1716 3 роки тому +57

    Patience is the key….

    • @blockbertus
      @blockbertus 3 роки тому +1

      And re-keying requires patience...

    • @RexenPrime
      @RexenPrime 3 роки тому +1

      So if i sit and stare at it long enough it will unlock?

    • @scallywag1716
      @scallywag1716 3 роки тому +1

      @@RexenPrime perhaps…only one way to find out.

    • @corydriver7634
      @corydriver7634 3 роки тому

      Oh no you di-int.

    • @nasilemak868
      @nasilemak868 3 роки тому

      That's the key to success

  • @joesolari2395
    @joesolari2395 3 роки тому

    Very informative. Great lesson. Now if I can only find a kit for my ‘94 Land Cruiser which we learned the hard way has a working ignition key that doesn’t match the door cylinders. Previous owner didn’t disclose or provide the door key and we were using the FOB for years until the car battery died and the realization was made. Really love the fact that you have so much info based around the Element. We bought our ‘04 new and just reach 286K miles, regrettably had a blow head gasket in January, but she’s purring again.

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  3 роки тому

      Another option is to file all the pins down to make the tumbler smooth without putting in any new pars. So long as the tumbler is smooth when the key is inserted it will open the lock. It's less secure, but it works.

    • @pouncerminned863
      @pouncerminned863 Рік тому

      @@ericthecarguy this isn’t a good idea, it can cause lock to fail later

  • @javiertorres9666
    @javiertorres9666 Місяць тому

    I did it to my Nissan Sentra 2019 and Work Fine i did shave some of the pins 😅 so it was a little bit Faster just on the ones almost fine Not Sticking out to much Thanks for the Video Brother 👍🏽

  • @krashpass
    @krashpass 2 роки тому

    THANKS. Finally some one who shows how these new locks work. Great video.

    • @pouncerminned863
      @pouncerminned863 Рік тому

      What he said was not entirely precise but in the end he resolved the issue.

  • @hollynunley4448
    @hollynunley4448 3 роки тому +1

    You are the best. Been watching for years.

  • @tjdalyjr1
    @tjdalyjr1 3 роки тому

    This is awesome! I needed this solution. Eric is the reason i bought an old honda haha and he provides the solution.

  • @BrianHollihan
    @BrianHollihan 3 роки тому +7

    That is some very useful information to have, I could've fixed a few locks this way 🤙

  • @Snufl
    @Snufl 3 роки тому +18

    My car came with the amazing security feature of needing a different key for every lock, and none of the locksmiths around would touch them for less than $150 each. One of those $100 ASP kits ended up being the cheapest option to re-key 2 locks, but now I have an entire box of wafers that I'll probably never use.

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  3 роки тому +6

      eBay?

    • @StarHunter28
      @StarHunter28 3 роки тому +2

      That is an amazing security feature 😂

    • @ikeworkman4449
      @ikeworkman4449 3 роки тому +1

      I was just thinking about how I don't want to buy the kit solely for my ignition lock. Lmk and I'd be happy to by some wafers off you. :)

    • @citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936
      @citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 Рік тому +2

      Locksmiths are not free. But those of us who are great at what we do, are worth the price.

    • @Sledfreak76
      @Sledfreak76 11 місяців тому +1

      I purchased a dual key CRV, my guess the ignition assembly was replaced, with no remote fobbed keys. I took the ignition cylinder apart, put the original fobbed key in cylinder and ground the protruding tumblers. Reassembled, the Ignition can now use the original key.

  • @w.s.soapcompany94
    @w.s.soapcompany94 3 роки тому +4

    Wow I actually do need this info. Thanks again Eric.

  • @rickgaine3476
    @rickgaine3476 3 роки тому +4

    x another thing, when you buy the new ignition switch, just buy the cylinders for the other locks so that all the keys match. Saves you a lot of work in the long run. all you have to do then is just swap the cylinders to match.

    • @panzerveps
      @panzerveps 3 роки тому +1

      Except that they are $200 a piece for my car :P

  • @nutzboltztoolz2734
    @nutzboltztoolz2734 3 роки тому +1

    Great demonstration 🤘 I was a Honda Tech back in the day and that was a common problem

  • @RexenPrime
    @RexenPrime 3 роки тому +1

    This is absolutely perfect timing, i was just thinking of doing this to my beater car

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  3 роки тому

      FYI, you can just file the pins down with the key inserted in the tumbler instead of replacing them. Less secure, but it works just fine.

  • @jerryborjon
    @jerryborjon Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video! I didn’t buy the pin set, but your video gave me enough information to learn what to do!
    I just had a case of the key not being able to lock/unlock the door. Turns out that a single pin just got worn out and kept sliding past the key. Instead of replacing it, I just removed the pin entirely. It’s maybe a little less secure, but I doubt anyone is ever gonna want to break into a 15 year old car anyways. If they do, they’re probably just gonna break a window.
    Now my door locks and unlocks like a charm!

    • @neilhassanali316
      @neilhassanali316 Рік тому +1

      Similar, I removed 2 pins on an old RAV4 cylinder because I didn't think anyone would try to crawl through the back.

  • @panzerveps
    @panzerveps 3 роки тому +2

    Great timing!
    Someone tried to use a "universal key" (aka flat head screw driver) to break into my Jetta, and I'm thinking of going for a salvage yard lock.
    The remote works, but it would suck if the battery died.
    Also a good reason to stop by my old job for a chat (since they should have the re-keying set)

    • @panzerveps
      @panzerveps 3 роки тому

      @@aserta already checked with the dealership, and that would add a few hundred bucks to the bill. Not that there's any upgrades available...

  • @orlandorivera9011
    @orlandorivera9011 Рік тому +1

    Greetings Eric, your my hero !!!

  • @jordancruz7665
    @jordancruz7665 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent info, I didn't want to spring for the kit, so the pins from the trunk/gas latch lock to rekey my door lock (the cylinders unfortunately aren't interchangeable). This video helped a ton. Thanks!

    • @ultraininja
      @ultraininja 2 роки тому

      That's what I was thinking to do
      Glad someone else confirmed it

    • @jamesholio
      @jamesholio Рік тому +1

      Yeah I was gonna steal the cylinder but now hear the cylinders are different. What a bunch of bunk.
      Good idea though with the pin exchange. Also thinking maybe the cylinder is the same left and right and just that bracket has to point the right direction.

    • @jordancruz7665
      @jordancruz7665 Рік тому

      @@jamesholio Mine doesn't have passenger-side or trunk locks, so I wasn't able to confirm, but I think you're right. My fix is still holding up after more than a year, and the replacement I bought allowed me to keep half of the pins in the donor lock, so the key surprisingly still works in that one as well.
      Best of luck with your repair.

  • @turkey1099
    @turkey1099 2 роки тому +1

    I worked from the front (closest to the key hole) to the back instead.
    You can use the key itself to hold the wafers in place and you can continuously check it in the cylinder to see if anything catches.

  • @hickorystx
    @hickorystx 3 роки тому +1

    Very detailed demo. Looks like practice is necessary. Great filming and audio tutorial!! Thanks Eric...

  • @greenhead333
    @greenhead333 3 роки тому +4

    I love your channel, so helpful with so many vehicle issues I have had. the majority of my car maintenance knowledge came from you so thanks for that!

  • @labradormcgraw
    @labradormcgraw 3 роки тому +2

    Just goes to show how little I know; I didn't even know this was possible. Very interesting. 👍😊

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  3 роки тому +1

      Anything is possible with enough money and time it seems. Nice to see you.

  • @monkfry
    @monkfry 2 роки тому

    Been working on my ‘96 for the past couple of weeks and I always end up at your channel. Almost capable of building an accord from the ground up now Hah!! Also been watching videos that I don’t need. 😆 I’ve never seen O-rings as hard as the ones under my rocker assembly. They were like glass. Had to pick/break them out in chunks.

  • @MM_in_Havasu
    @MM_in_Havasu 3 роки тому +1

    You have much more patience than I do! Excellent job just the same!

  • @VacFink
    @VacFink 3 роки тому

    A search for a video like this for my car a few years ago sent me down quite a rabbit hole. Videos from LockPicking Lawyer and Bosnian bill explain hos these work and how easily they can be defeated. I no longer presume the lock is secure but still worth the effort for 70 percent. But if someone wants it, its theirs.

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  3 роки тому

      Honestly if someone wants to break into your vehicle they will likely break a window. It takes less time than picking a lock.

  • @trankt54155
    @trankt54155 3 роки тому +1

    Eric, good video.....to see the inner working of a Honda door lock cylinder. Thanks. I think I still have my old one sitting in a drawer...

  • @mattfoley6082
    @mattfoley6082 3 роки тому +1

    Automatic window on driver door is disabled after doing this (i.e., after disconnecting cable to window buttons). When you finish the job you must reset the auto window feature.
    Steps:
    1. Start car.
    2. Lower driver window.
    3. Raise driver window until close and hold button in UP position for 5 seconds.
    This enables auto window feature.

  • @zachhendershot8565
    @zachhendershot8565 3 роки тому +5

    If like to add that the "bumps" on the side of the wafers eventually wear down, and that causes the key not to work as well. This video doubles as a fix for that issue as well.
    My standard operating procedures for this is to match the ignition to the door key. That way, reprogramming the immobilizer isn't necessary, and the keycode still matches thr Vin.

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  3 роки тому +5

      I believe I mentioned that this procedure can also be used to repair locks in the video.
      Had I tried to rekey the ignition to the old key, I would have had to have Honda set up the immobilizer system to recognize that key or the car would not start. The key cutting machines at Honda can easily identify the key code, even without the vin so that part is irrelevant.
      Thanks for the comment.

    • @gabelozano5891
      @gabelozano5891 3 роки тому

      @@ericthecarguy Eric.... I own a 99 accord replacing the rack and pinion any tips on how to remove the lines

  • @Bobherry
    @Bobherry 3 роки тому +3

    Lock Picking Lawyer would be proud of this video.

  • @edpewalkee
    @edpewalkee 3 роки тому +1

    The ignition in my 08 E took a shit and left me stranded a few months ago. The key wouldnt budge. Dealer wanted 600 to fix and locksmith wanted 400.
    I tackled it myself and after three hours of fighting that roll pin I got it apart. I left one wafer in the tumbler so the key doesnt fall out while I'm driving and it works great

  • @ridgelineoutdooradventure
    @ridgelineoutdooradventure 6 місяців тому

    My bad for starting the job without watching the whole video first. Didn’t realize you needed a new pin set. Now everything is apart on my desk. Off to a locksmith I go as i need this fixed sooner than later.

  • @bobbyrios2k223
    @bobbyrios2k223 3 роки тому +1

    Huh. I wish i had this video when i had my integra. When those ahole thieves jacked up my ignition i had to get a new one, but never redid the doorlocks. I had an alarm anyways, but would be nice for the trunk and just keep everything in unison. Eric the car guy is also Eric the locksmith

  • @Michael5029
    @Michael5029 8 місяців тому

    I used this video to rekey my own door lock for a CRV. I'm about to install the lock myself, hopefully it goes well.
    Mechanics quoted me $120 to rekey and install the lock I provided. A locksmith quoted the same just to rekey the cylinder. I say fuck all them and do it myself.
    The door lock mechanism was $21 on amazon, I got the pins for essentially $13 by getting a Civic's door rekey kit and just using those pins. The Civic key kits will include 5 of each half pins (30 pins), a bunch of springs, and 2 of each of the full pins (4 full pins total), which is more than enough for you guys to redo all the pins with some leftover. This saves you money on buying a whole pin kit for $80 when you just want to do one or two cylinders.

  • @stevegmag
    @stevegmag Рік тому

    This was awesome. The pin kit worked great. I had trouble putting the return spring back on until I realized that the ends of the spring don’t push against the ears, they are captured by the ears… this part of the video wasn’t as detailed and I was doing it wrong… a vise grip was also helpful to keep the one side of the spring in place as you tighten the spring around to get the other ear captured. As always, Eric is the MFMan!

  • @livestn
    @livestn 2 роки тому

    This man saved me so much money

  • @vijayantgovender2045
    @vijayantgovender2045 3 роки тому +1

    Thank the videos are very helpful I am from South Africa

  • @Steel_the_Free
    @Steel_the_Free Рік тому

    Excellent presentation format: narration, instructional vocabulary and sequence, clear, bright, sharp, close-up views. Also the suggested necessary precautions for example keep the ignition key in or avoiding “tiny spring flight” and anything else that… might cause the surgeon to go under his own knife… (figure of speech). Overall, a positive suggestion that it can be done.
    One confirmation, however: did I hear you say at 9:20 that the replacement pin selection from the kit is “trial and error”? Thus, given the increased handling due to guessing wrong, the existence of mirrored pin form-factors, possible tumbler re-orientation etc., I’m sure I for one don’t have the patience for a one-time only ignition lock re-pinning . Thanks for helping know when it’s time to remain in the audience.

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael 3 роки тому +1

    Good video Eric on how to re Key a lock cylinder very informative 👍👏👌 seems very simple to do nice work @EricTheCarGuy

  • @CrazyFastFlying
    @CrazyFastFlying 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video! I have the same issue on my Honda Civic.

  • @Chief1063
    @Chief1063 3 роки тому +4

    How does the glove box cylinder work such that the valet key doesn't open it?
    Great video as always.

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  3 роки тому +8

      Remember the missing pin on the outer tumbler? I believe there IS a tumbler there in the trunk and glovebox locks so that the valet key only works in the ignition and the doors.

    • @lunstee
      @lunstee 3 роки тому +1

      @@ericthecarguy The missing wafer isn't involved with valet keying (I don't know what it's used for). The difference is in the final wafer (the wide one that straddles both sides of the key). One shoulder is different between master and sub, and the wafer gets overlifted when a valet key is inserted. This means in theory, you can make a master key by cutting down a valet key. Looking broadside at the key with the blade away from you, the master cut is on the right side, closest to the tip, opposite the 'A' wafer cut. A valet key has no cut on the right opposite A.
      Of the four tumblers on the bottom row of your pinning kit, if I'm not mistaken, the two on the left (missing the right-side shoulder) are for cylinders where you want any key to work (e.g. ignition, driver's door), while the two wafers on the right (with a shoulder on the right, equivalent to the #5 tumbler) are for master key only (glove box, trunk). That shoulder blocks valet access. If you're testing your lock cylinder using a master key, you'll find one wafer from either side will fit. A valet key will work with only one out of the four wafers.
      Honda Service bulletins 01-077 and 03-068 cover key cutting, and door cylinder repair respectively. A lot of nitty-gritty details that are good to know can be found in them.

  • @kicknsystm
    @kicknsystm 3 роки тому +1

    This is awesome! I have a 94 Del-sol I need to address this on.

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  3 роки тому

      The same company that makes the kit for these locks also makes one for older Hondas as well. Link in the description.

  • @eduardosanchez2381
    @eduardosanchez2381 2 роки тому

    Your video saved my day$$, thanks a lot buddy!!

  • @literatesavant
    @literatesavant 3 роки тому

    Had this same problem on my 2003 Element. When I bought it used in 2010 the driver's door lock already didn't work. I had to open the passenger door and reach across to unlock the driver's. After awhile the ignition lock started to get sticky, and eventually it jammed on my wife and almost left her stranded 100 miles from home. Luckily a guy at a gas station helped her out, and basically forced the key in and got the car started. I ended up having to pay the dealer to re-key the ignition and door. Expensive.

  • @Chrislk1986
    @Chrislk1986 3 роки тому

    My wife had a damaged pin in the ignition cylinder on her 07 Civic Hybrid, 2 hours from home. Key was stuck in between "off" and the first position.
    On the fly and with zero experience, I took a quick hands on crash course on her 03 Civic Hybrid with an exploded CVT belt.
    Long story short, I was actually able to swap the lock cylinder. What I didn't realize, is that the anti-theft system had another piece that I hadn't accounted for. So after 2 hours of tearing into the spare car, gathering up tools, grabbing an overnight bag...then 4hr of driving through rush hour traffic in July w/o AC...and another 2 hours disassembling the problem cylinder and making things "work", the car would turn over and run for about 7 seconds and turn off, with the anti-theft light flashing. Hahaha.
    Ended up just removing the damaged pin/wafer and calling it a day. But, hey, now I know. And I've got an EP3 with a sticky door lock that I can probably fix w/o any trouble.

  • @timkirby5014
    @timkirby5014 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for ur video...went to pullapart near me and got spare parts for my 07civic...first time I re pinned my tumbler...since the after market...key tumbler is made with cheaper material....it frustrating to fix it .however the video give good pointer tip to make it a dyi..😊

  • @AresWing314
    @AresWing314 3 роки тому

    EricTheCarGuy, I have found in my Acura Integra 1993, that the Shift Linkage/ Shift Mechanism, I had to Adjust, Clean, Lubricate to prevent my Key from remaining stuck in the Key Ignition. The Key never remained stuck since then. I don't know if this would apply in this case, but possibly a differential diagnosis to consider. Thanks again for your Videos!

  • @JosQiNgMT
    @JosQiNgMT 10 місяців тому

    Very pro!! Very detail in every single things

  • @satin227
    @satin227 3 роки тому +1

    Nice LOTR reference, haven't heard that one in a while. Just need to scribe it in Black Speech on the key to ward of any wizards or would-be car thieves. XD

  • @ALTruckerDad
    @ALTruckerDad Рік тому +1

    I've talked to several lock smiths in my area, and every one of them told me the same thing. They can make a key, but they can't rekey the lock. One even tried to tell me "Car locks aren't like house locks, they can't be rekeyed"... I'm in the southeastern USA, coastal Alabama to be exact, and any recommendations would be great.

  • @blackmanops3749
    @blackmanops3749 3 роки тому

    I have Saabs. They are notorious for filling with junk because of where they put it in the console. I just remove the wafers. Sometimes I just leave one so there is some friction to hold the key in. It's a whole lot cheaper and easier and just about as secure.

  • @bobm7275
    @bobm7275 3 роки тому +1

    Eric as a never-have-been lock smith I have been doing this since I was twelve, over sixty years. You have a lock that is not working, open it and throw away the offending pin, you now have a 4 or 3 tumbler lock, it still locks. If one is snooping it's locked if they were going to pick it, it will be 25% easier if not it is still locked. Takes two minutes and costs nothing.
    Forgot as with me your cars are so old, anyone wanting to steal it just breaks a window anyway.

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  3 роки тому +1

      Excellent point, but I make how to videos for a living. 😉

  • @mehdiimran
    @mehdiimran Рік тому +2

    Thanks . This part is covered . How about removing those key cylinder from the car to re key😁

  • @ScubaCat3
    @ScubaCat3 3 роки тому

    I don't need this for my car, but I HIGHLY recommend the schlage (or whatever brand you use) repin kit for your house. THAT is where you can really save money. I even got to "play locksmith" for my neighbor once with it. heh.

  • @billtanguay8905
    @billtanguay8905 3 роки тому

    Eric, thanks, I really like looking deep inside my 04CRV and 07Ele without having to actually take anything apart. I very regularly lube all my lock cylinders, so hopefully I will never have a non-working key. Fingers crossed!

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  3 роки тому

      I like to use graphite when lubricating locks from the outside. Liquid lubricants can attract dirt that can build up and cause the lock not to move as well.

  • @Nope-un5lq
    @Nope-un5lq 3 роки тому

    Gold star for the LOTR reference :-D

  • @xxbvanxx
    @xxbvanxx Рік тому

    Very informative video! Thank you so much for this! Learned a lot.

  • @nathanrodriguez1089
    @nathanrodriguez1089 4 місяці тому +1

    Do you need Erick set the same # of the wafers in order 1-5= from the switch key is to back or backwards

  • @seanbrenton55
    @seanbrenton55 3 роки тому

    If you cannot get your key to turn, there is a pin in the way, and sliding the barrel out will be finicky or impossible. This happened to my 05Honda ignition. I had to hammer the barrel out from the back side, destroying some pins in the process, and marring the assembly.
    Even if you remove pins to make it work, the immobilizer chip reader still provides some security.

  • @lunstee
    @lunstee 3 роки тому

    The 'little lock pieces' are called wafers
    For getting the wafers, the easiest way I've found is to buy a set of assemble-it-yourself cylinders off of eBay (search for Honda recode cylinder). The cylinders I've gotten this way aren't very good quality, but the wafers are very good. I chuck the cylinder and have used the wafers for repairing original cylinders.
    I've also gotten loose wafers from a locksmith before, but that only works well if you already know what wafers you need, otherwise the work of determining what wafers you need is something the locksmith would want to bill for. This is fine if you're just repairing a worn lock and can read the numbers stamped in the old wafers. Some locksmiths refuse to provide small parts, so YMMV.

  • @isalmankhan1
    @isalmankhan1 3 роки тому

    Awesome video, Thanks for sharing Eric👍

  • @ameenm7576
    @ameenm7576 3 роки тому +1

    Very informative video eric.

  • @brandonlink6568
    @brandonlink6568 3 роки тому

    I lost my door key on my old Pontiac so I went to the junkyard and not thinking I grabbed a key out of a wreck to get my locks keyed to. It worked fine but the copy I had made of that key always required some jiggling to work.

  • @akamrcam
    @akamrcam 3 роки тому

    I remember talking to someone awhile back who had multiple cars without chipped keys from the same manufacturer and did this to on other vehicles so he only had to have one key for multiple vehicles.

  • @danielbaltes9415
    @danielbaltes9415 3 роки тому

    U da man ECG.

  • @vinatechcoy
    @vinatechcoy 2 роки тому

    Thanks for your vivid instruction.

  • @phenixgarage5539
    @phenixgarage5539 3 роки тому

    Wouldn’t you need to reprogram the key if you repin the ignition switch but the immobilizer will not recognize the key fob and at that point not let the vehicle start. This is a great video if you were changing your ignition switch and want to use the new key in the doors and trunk as well.

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  3 роки тому

      I believe I covered that in the video. Thanks for the comment.

  • @CrazyPetez
    @CrazyPetez 3 роки тому

    I’m impressed! I had bought a used a 1981 Honda CBX (1047cc inline 6 cylinder air cooled motorcycle) that had the ignition switch/lock changed. It required 2 keys; 1 for ignition. 2nd for gas cap, saddle bag release from the bike, and the saddle bag locks. I was a parts guy (Hobby Job) at a Honda (motorcycle) dealer. I looked up the part number for the lock set and ordered it. Maybe $100 total. Perhaps with your knowledge, I could have set the ignition lock to work the bike keys? This was in about 1992. Things are much different now.

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  3 роки тому

      Yes, I believe you could have. They do make a kit for the older style Honda locks as well. We used to send these off to a locksmith to do this work when I worked at the dealer.

  • @firmanstutzman1742
    @firmanstutzman1742 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for this video! Thanks to you I was able to fix my 2005 Honda Civic drivers side door for free. Was able to file down the metal piece that was sticking up. Appreciate it!!

    • @brett.dc5
      @brett.dc5 2 роки тому

      I was thinking on doing that how is it since you’ve done it

    • @firmanstutzman1742
      @firmanstutzman1742 2 роки тому

      @@brett.dc5 follow the steps in the video to take the lock cylinder apart. Before you take it apart make sure you have the key in it so the tumblers do not fall out.
      I put the cylinder in a vice with light pressure and filed down the tumblr that was sticking up with the key still in the cylinder. If you’re going to take out the key with the cylinder taken apart make sure you use tape as the video shows.
      Pay close attention to how the lock cylinder goes back together. Maybe take some pictures before you take it apart. Hope this helps. Good luck!

  • @bazabal1
    @bazabal1 3 роки тому +6

    The lock picking lawyer defeated this lock 🔐

    • @johnhogan9176
      @johnhogan9176 2 місяці тому

      who cares? I never lock my car. I would rather lose what I am dumb enough to leave in my car than to lose it and replace the window. Anyone can break into a car with a rock. If he defeated the immobilizer then I would be impressed.

  • @eighty1977
    @eighty1977 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Eric would you please do a video of the door lock removal and install for the element please? Would be a blessing because there’s no goon videos on UA-cam

  • @malibuStroker
    @malibuStroker 3 роки тому

    Very cool and interesting video! All of my older cars came with a separate door and ignition key and nobody ever thought twice about it. That seems like a lot of work to eliminate 1 key from your key ring. Lol but very informative none the less. Thank you!

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  3 роки тому +1

      Not if your job is making how to videos for the internet. 😉

  • @alannobakht8503
    @alannobakht8503 9 місяців тому

    this was awesome teaching-- But I'm not sure if I have the same nerve that you have, as I saw how carefully you did this.

  • @latinoguy483
    @latinoguy483 3 роки тому +1

    Yeah just did this on my 05 civic wasnt that bad. Bought a bunch of them so when my pilot acts up i can replace those too.

  • @TrieuNguyen-ve4ei
    @TrieuNguyen-ve4ei Рік тому

    Saved my day. Thank you

  • @luisraulmarquez3023
    @luisraulmarquez3023 6 місяців тому

    I follow the excellent explanation carefully, but the alarm goes off when I open the door. The engine starts but it won't shift gears. I feel the problem is related to the switch that is attached to the back of the cylinder. Is there a specific position for it?

  • @kastooMcFry
    @kastooMcFry 3 роки тому

    Very cool explanation. Thanks!

  • @131R30
    @131R30 3 роки тому +2

    Alternatively, could you have re-keyed the ignition to accept the door key, thus changing only one instead of 3?

    • @dav8388
      @dav8388 3 роки тому

      But then he would have to get that key programed to the car. By rekeying the doors he doesn't

    • @131R30
      @131R30 3 роки тому

      @@dav8388 Aha! Thank you.

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  3 роки тому +1

      Not really. That would necessitate taking it back to the dealer to have that key programed to work with the ignition. If not, the car would never start.

    • @131R30
      @131R30 3 роки тому +1

      @@ericthecarguy Thank you. Didn't think of that.

    • @jamesalaquinez3474
      @jamesalaquinez3474 Рік тому

      @@ericthecarguy do you have a email I can contact you at having trouble with my 99 accord and have a few questions if you can provide 1 would be great

  • @NGMorgan
    @NGMorgan Рік тому

    Well what can I say, after learning how to copy Houdini (working in tiny spaces) to weld up a Lancia , i thought I'd suffered the most X!!xxx!? job ... until this one. Thanks only to my old-hat tools, the wife's make-up mirror and some reshaped hooks - I do get there (2 hours later) Yep... maybe I don't have the experts skills for this one but I do wonder if the person who designed this lock installation for Honda, was a friend of Houdini (no other could get a lock freed fast). My 'patient' was a second hand door - I only wanted to change locks for the one from the car its going in, but I know now why no one else bought this used door........ On a positive at least (one again) UA-cam gave the best 'advice' and perhaps I have earned a large Beer....

  • @frundlemud
    @frundlemud Рік тому

    Very interesting tutorial many thanks.

  • @robertbirriel8619
    @robertbirriel8619 3 роки тому +1

    Hey @EricTheCarGuy, I love your videos.
    I was wondering, where do you get your service manuals?
    I really wanna do my own maintenance and repairs, but I would feel more confident if I had a step by step guide on how to do it.