I am a Native American hunter, but no trophy hunter. I was hunting once and I had recently shot a moose near a mountain range and I heard something dash behind me. When I spun around it was a curious mountain lion. She probably had smelt the fresh scent of blood from the moose. She watched me skin, cut, and separate the moose for 2 hours. I was always looking at her just to make sure I wasn't going to get pounced on by her. After I had finished gutting the moose I packed up the meat and my tools and I left behind 2 legs of the moose for her to thank her for not killing me. I still see her every now and then, and I even named her in my Native tongue.
William Alger 3rd I love this. I'm Native American as well. We are taught to respect animals. That they have soul's. My father was a big hunter and I aspire to be. We have only ever killed or fished for nourishment not financial gain.
@@LivingHistorySchool Why not all? I screamed when they said it... Still recovering. Glad to know and I´m glad to help.. what is a good fund to make it so?
there numbers are not dwindling in the US they are actually on the rise.... its gotten to the point where in some parts of California there are so many they are actually killing off the local deer populations and the state and conservation groups have had to start hiring professional hunters to thin them out.
A beautiful young healthy male who survived harsh winters and beat the odds only to be senselessly gunned down by a horrible cowardly human being for "sporting". Despicable person. :(
@@goromi8340 1. he is called a "trophy hunter" 2. This is in Wyoming, that Hunter is in america, consumerism paradise, if he can afford hunting he can afford going to the supermarket
@@ANJROTmania There are so many ways to contribute to wildlife conservation without killing animals though. I think you should show a little more empathy for these animals.
yea and the money he paid for the hunting tag is what pays for these cameras and the research. so go ahead and ban trophy hunting. poachers will continue to kill off the population but you wont know about it because the funding for stuff like this wont be there.
Uhhhh.... I'm sorry? The money for a National Geographic documentary won't be there if trophy hunting is banned? Yeah that's definitely not where Nat Geo get their funding...
@@radagast1184 its natural for Cougars to kill other animals for food, Cougars do not hunt animals to decorate their house, they do it to survive. its called the ecosystem
@@sydneymarks9671 All is fun and games when you are a city person snuggly sitting in your snuggly.. Till you come face to face with these beasties...last summer my friends and I were minding our own business camping not far from a small town when my brother spotted a cougar 30 yards from us in the dark with his flashlight BIG GLOWING EYES crouched near a tree... and it was not going anywhere.. there was 3 of us and it had absolutely no fear of us! We shouted but it came closer.. I pulled out my gun and rang out a shot ... it simply took off just to try to ambush us from the left... We had to form a triangle and slowing leave the area back to our vehicle because it was NOT gonna leave us alone... till it tasted blood... It was later found out by us from the locals that this cat had eaten 3 domestics cats and 2 beloved dogs.. Wonder how you would react if it was your cat, dog, child, or you? All I'm saying is: 1.PLEAE HAVE A WEAPON ON YOU AND DO NOT GO ALONE! 2. They need to be hunted every now and again to keep the balance of power and fear for humans going. Of-course following the law and buying tag but they NEED TO BE HUNTED.
@@gariott2677 1. Maybe you should stay out of the woods if you don’t want to see them. 2. They don’t need to be hunted. They need to be left alone. If you have to kill one in self defense, then do it. 3. They’re beneficial for the ecosystem. They keep the deer population healthy and in check. They’ve been a part of the ecosystem way before we showed our stupid selves to their habitat. 4. Their populations are fine. Their populations can manage themselves. If anyone has a population problem, it’s us. We’re highly overpopulous that we keep encroaching into wildlife territories.
Imagine how that phone call went. "Yes, hi. Is this research team so-and-so? I just wanted to let you know I shot this cougar and it had one of your tags in its ears. Here's the number." "Ah y-yes, thank you very much." *Hangs up* *Cries over month's worth of kitten footage*
Whilst in California, I spoke to someone who had shot three mountain lions over the previous month. I pointed out that that was illegal and more to the point immoral given the scarcity of them. His excuse was that they can eat the kilo equivalent of one deer per month. It is good that this is now an excuse used by only a small minority of people.
I doubt that, having hunted all over the state and done extensive backcountry exploration throughout southern Californias most common mountain lion areas, I've only seen 2 lions ever, one was on a ridge about a mile away from me and the other deep in a canyon in Potrero, california. Unless that guy had hounds trained in tracking lions or was a rancher with a depredation permit and a really bad cougar problem he was lying. Or you are lying to put a bad name on hunters.
It's quite simple actually. They have an urge to kill. Not unlike a serial killer or mass shooter. The deaths of animals satisfy that urge in most people who have them.
Or maybe it's actually because hunting is ingrained in our culture. Hunting on horseback with you hunting dogs at the heels of your prey. This happened a lot in most cultures throughout history. A better example would be the gladiatorial contests in Rome.
It's a sport. How else to control the population? Mountain lions are not endangered; in some places in fact they're too numerous and pose a danger to herds, pets, and small children. Too many of them and they'll die excruciating deaths from starvation or freezing or disease. Today their numbers are protected and managed; when populations rise too high, hunters are allowed to pay for the privilege of hunting them. This is a scientific process determined by wildlife biologists. If you have a better way to manage it, please do share.
Truth is, Nat Geo lied. That was no trophy hunter. An 2 or 3 year old male cougar is no trophy at all. That was simply a hunter doing what he or she does in their place in the food chain. They were helping to control the population to prevent the population exceeding the carrying capacity of that particular area
Trophy hunting is pure evil. Unless it's meant for eating/sustenance in survival situations killing wild rare animals like these should be banned and harshly punished if committed.
@@Floridaman1780_ I really didnt want to comment but I'm going to anyway- Trophy hunting is hunting for sport- You are not using the animal you hunt for anything but to say you killed it. You are not using it's parts to eat. Therefore it is useless to trophy hunt.
@Sushant M I know, but that's not really trophy hunting, I find it alright if you at least use the animal parts like the meat and fur, but the killing for fun and sport, I just dont like it.
@PunchingMegaTree yes, I was thinking of that. I do understand somewhat of trophey hunting, as it is showing you can kill an animal. Which is strength. However personally instead of having its body on display for everyone to see, I think we should put its body to good use. And yes I do know that mountain lions are not near yet. However it is actually getting closer, since a lot of people do not care for them. There are places that say If you see a mountain lion. Kill it immediately- Ok, ok lol I realized I ranted a little, sorry about that, I do not wish hard feelings or any rudeness to you. I hope you have a good day/night/evening/morning! ^^
Christian O. Holz killing rare wild animals is banned and harshly punished. Endangered animals are almost always protected, and tags (a piece of paper saying you are legally allowed to kill a certain animal) aren’t given out for those animals. If you are ever caught poaching (hunting without a tag) you will get a $10,000 fine (might change based on the state), face jail time, and have any items (gun, truck, ammo, etc.) on you permanently confiscated.
promontorium that moment when they art even preserving nature. A trophy hunter isn't gonna stop multi billion dollar corporations from turning the rockys into a giant super mall
They have extreme low self esteem, killing a dangerous animal is one of their ways to attempt to feel good about themselves, most assuredly these are the same people who abuse their wives and children, keeping the cycle going.
If you're an American citizen your taxes go to pay for our National Parks and Monuments. These parks belong to EVERY CITIZEN, as soon as you are born in America you inherit our parks and become caretakers of it. So you don't have to be a hunter to preserve these places, just care for our National Parks.
promontorium lol umm no the planet is extremely populated with humans because we’re all trying to live forever, hunters don’t do nothing except kill, when it’s the human race that needs to decline. There’s billions of people starving to death and we’re worried about animals being animals.
Yeah, let's do like in France : wipe out all predator specie, and every year end up with over-growth population of deer and wild boars trampling over all your crops. Predators regulate wild herbivore's population from overgrowing, and trophy hunters don't regulate anything : cougars are an ENDANGERED SPECIE, for crying out loud. And YOU are just trying to bring justification to a despicable murdering habit (maybe you share this habit too, who knows?). So NO : trophy hunters don't deserve any sympathy for their activities, the only thing they deserve is a bullet in the fore-head, and even then it'd just be a waste of ammo on them.
@@thewildcardperson Poachers are trash, however they're also not very common. The Division of Fish and Game DO NOT give out tags in a way that if all tags are filled, and a few more animals are killed in addition, it will hurt the population. There is a buffer in the harvest estimation for the season so that these unaccountable deaths won't hurt the population overall, and if the population drops more then expected for whatever reason, limits will be passed for next season to prevent it from dropping anymore. What makes someone a trophy hunter? Well it's the mindset of the hunter, who is hunting purely for the trophy and the meat is an afterthought. I don't believe this is the right way to go about hunting, however at the end of the day the outcome is the same, the meat will be harvested and won't go to waste, and the animal was still harvested with a legal tag so the population was not harmed, that means only difference is the mindset of the hunter. If the "trophy hunter" was to not to harvest the meat, and just take the head, that is poaching and is illegal. How the filmmaker knew whether or not the hunter was a "trophy hunter", I have no clue, and more likely then not it was said that way to vilify the hunter who happened to legally harvest the mountain lion the crew was filming.
Tiny Floof when there are too many wolves the deer population will be threatened and if nothing is done the deer population in an area could be annihilated so it's up to us to hunt just the right amount of wolves to keep the population in check because if we leave the wolves to multiply the moment the deer runs out some wolves will start hunting cattle and humans. though there has to be a balance and strict enforcement of regulations to how many people can hunt not unlike those in unstable political climates like Africa where corruption can easily take place and easy to get away with.
They're only "protecting" species because its in their best interest so they can continue to hunt. They don't genuinely care about animals or about biodiversity. Its sad that we have to rely on money from trophy hunting to protect wild life.
Andres Terrazas I mean to be fair which is better a hunter paying to hunt an animal or that animal becoming a nuisance. When an animals population goes out of control the state or local government uses tax payer money to pay people to go hunt down these animals until their population is under control again. An example is California and mountain lions, you’re not allowed to hunt them so Californians tax money is being used to keep them under control. Where as a better situation could be you have hunters PAY to hunt them and the state makes money and saves money. Like many others in the comment section have said hunting helps with conservation efforts, hunters pay to hunt, they put their money where their mouth is. Unlike people who just like the idea of a mountain lion, until it kills their dog or runs off with their 4 year old.
Can I just say this new information is astonishing!!! I never knew they had such family structures, I mean the father's visit and they adopt?! Just amazing! 💓
IMO, trophy hunters are people who are scared of anything wild. So, to prove their "bravery and power" over these "beasts", they hunt them down from a distance using guns. Quite cowardly really.
That's certainly true. But it's true of hunters in general. I've had a lot of outdoor hobbies, unfortunately including hunting many years ago, and I can tell you that there's no more scared bunch of boys in the woods than hunters. It's really unfortunate the amount of misinformation the general public is subjected to about animals; much of it coming from hunters. But if hunters didn't exaggerate the wily nature of game animals and the ferocity and danger of predators, they'd be exposed for what they really are; cowards. I track cougars every chance I get and have caught many on trail cameras, and even one using my DSLR in daylight, and when a hunter hears what I do for fun, they act like I'm insane. Fear comes from ignorance, and hunters demonstrate that with nearly every conversation they have regarding wildlife.
there tears my friend. its okay to feel sorrow for such majestic animals. hopefully those dam trophy hunters will get a little payback in return so they feel what inocent animals do.
LifeStalker Those trophy hunters do not pay for anything. Most likely, they are poachers. My husband is a huntsman & I understand wildlife management. He processes what he takes & gives thanks. A trophy hunter is not thankful, just a braggart trying to compensate for his lack of testosterone by killing for sport.
icewolf026 You seem to think I give a fuck about any specific species. Besides, most hunters hunt local animals, like squirrels, ducks, boars, foxes, wolves...ect... You also seem to be under the impression that even a significant percentage of our 7 billion population are psychopaths...That of course is not the case.
David W why is killing a human worse than killing an animal? Yes we are humans and yes its cruel but animals deserve to live too and so many of them are more intelligence and amazing than you could imagine. I do not believe that humans are superior to any animal. We are all equal. These hunters deserve to be punished. Maybe not by being murdered but nevertheless punished. These mountain lions are beutiful creatures who do not deserve to be murdered for their body to be placed on a wall.
David W “while they ONLY killed animals” I think us all(animals and humans) have equal right to live on this earth and by giving us superior intelligence, god has entrusted as guardians of this planet and here are people like you who kill animals to boost your ego and hide your insecurities...
An absolutely wonderful video. What an extraordinary crime against Nature it would be to let such amazing animals go extinct. The work of these camera people is invaluable.
My sister has a small fountain outside her house in Southern California. Sometimes at night a mountain lion comes with her babies to drink from the fountain. Then she lays on the wall and watches as the baby lions play with the kids balls left outside. If the Mother lion spots my sister watching from a window, she just stares but doesn't stop the babies from playing.
wait, it is legal to kill mountain lions? Perhaps they would be less endangered if they had protected title. It makes no sense to kill for, what those thieves call, "a trophy". And I actually thought that humans were intelligent..
@Sims 3 Forever Dude You couldn't be any more wrong. There's only 20,000-40,000 left in the wild which is only a fraction of their historical populations. Also, while they may still have a large range, much of that territory has been lost to human development. Not to mention the thousands of roads and highways that inhibit their ability to migrate like they were able to do in the past. Burying your head in the sand and pretending like humans aren't decimating wildlife populations around the world, including cougars, is not going to solve the problem.
Sims 3 Forever Dude compared to tigers the mountain lion is doing very well and their numbers have risen because of conservation efforts, but their current range is only a small fraction of what it used to be,
It depends on where you are at. Different states have different laws regarding mountain lion hunting. Some allow, others do not. With that being said, it is also not unheard of for trophy hunters to poach a lion in an illegal state, then acquire a lion tag from a legal state, so that they can get their lion to a taxidermist or whatnot. Sad but true.
There are at least a dozen states in the US that still allow hunting of mountain lions. However, the term "trophy hunter" could apply to either legal or illegal hunting that is for the purpose of obtaining a trophy. So, we don't actually know which of these is being referenced in this video. (Wyoming, however, is one of these states.)
LUCKY you. I have been an avid outdoorsperson all my life. Hiked all the back country in Central California and have never been lucky enough to see one. They are beautiful.
These creatures are more loyal to there kids, than us humans to our own.Not just by love and bond but its there nature it's something that isnt gonna change for many years to come
Why? Trophy hunting helps keep murderers at bay. Would you prefer more serial killers and mass shootings to exist? Hunting, for meat or trophy helps satisfy the desires of thousands...desires that would turn to fellow species if banned.
+David W I think your thinking is flawed. We can’t accept trophy hunting just because it could possibly prevent murderers from murdering human beings. What happens when the trophy hunters kill off all the animals they like to hunt then? It’s no solution at all.
Alyssandra Wu I'm all for extermination of psychopaths, but that's not likely to happen. Thus, keeping their attention elsewhere is the best solution we have and the one currently legal in the U.S. That being said, I fully support rounding them up and euthanizing them. They're a disease on our society, only bringing good people harm. We're objectively better off without psychopaths among us.
+David W The solution your giving is like trying to put a bandaid on gashed stomach. Also, where are your statistics proving trophy hunters will turn to murdering people if laws against poaching and hunting were tightened in countries and places where hunting is still legal? And say if what you say is true, and trophy hunting directly links to human murder in its absence. Then we should just put all the trophy hunters onto death row or in jail immediately is what you're implying.
My cat and I watched this and we were both caught up in it as though it were really happening in front of us and not on a screen. I was crying out for the lions and sad to hear two didn't make it. This is my guilty soap opera.
Wow!!! I thought Moutain Lions were completely non-social creatures🤯 this is amazing, but again...so so sad about the two kittens who didn't make it😭😭😭
I honestly cried when they said he was gunned down, I have seen so many smiling faces in pictures with a mountain lion...and I hate it, I hate it so much- I saw a picture of a mountain lion and there was a person's foot in the picture...and it was dead...it was less than 1 year old...you could faintly see the spots...it had attacked a young boy- I cried to that picture, the parents should've known better, leaving their child unsupervised- even if it was just in their backyard- There are animals that will hunt is- We are not what this world revolves around and we cant seem to understand it, this world was NOT Made for us... This world was never made for us...and yet we think it is- we think we own it...and I just dont understand how we dont see that... Anyway I'm sorry for that rant- I had to get it out...
As a big cat lover and animal lover in general, i adore Mountain Lions and have spent the past forty or so minutes arguing with trophy hunters who kill them for sport about it. I, using logic and actual fact, seem to be winning.
Is there something I can do to participate in such activities of observing and conserving whilst holding a regular job? I have a degree in anthropology of that helps.
It's 2021 and we still have morons online who think Most species are extict because of hunting. There is a reason that trophy hunter was able to hunt that cougar, because it isn't endangered anymore. It's labeled as least concern.
I am a Native American hunter, but no trophy hunter. I was hunting once and I had recently shot a moose near a mountain range and I heard something dash behind me. When I spun around it was a curious mountain lion. She probably had smelt the fresh scent of blood from the moose. She watched me skin, cut, and separate the moose for 2 hours. I was always looking at her just to make sure I wasn't going to get pounced on by her. After I had finished gutting the moose I packed up the meat and my tools and I left behind 2 legs of the moose for her to thank her for not killing me. I still see her every now and then, and I even named her in my Native tongue.
William Alger 3rd whats her name?
William Alger 3rd that’s so beautiful
William Alger 3rd I love this. I'm Native American as well. We are taught to respect animals. That they have soul's. My father was a big hunter and I aspire to be. We have only ever killed or fished for nourishment not financial gain.
Cheyanne Crane that is so not american
You've just conditioned that animal to associate free food with humans. It'd be surprising if it's still alive.
The thing that astonished me was finding out that cougar moms adopt cubs! That's adorably amazing! Those are some good mommies right there.
So it's not so fictional in that Benji movie.
awww this made me cry...i hate knowing how much their numbers are dwindling because of humans.
what a joke its the exact opposite in some states.
Would it be better if we didn't know?
@@LivingHistorySchool Why not all? I screamed when they said it... Still recovering. Glad to know and I´m glad to help.. what is a good fund to make it so?
@Klein Bottle to be fair, a lot of Informational videos are designed to get you to think a certain way. Video Games are masters at this.
there numbers are not dwindling in the US they are actually on the rise.... its gotten to the point where in some parts of California there are so many they are actually killing off the local deer populations and the state and conservation groups have had to start hiring professional hunters to thin them out.
Poor Frostbite she actually lost both of her brothers 😥
Sushant M do you understand mountain lion language? how do you know it doesn’t care? stop assuming because you sound like an idiot
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No poor her brothers they died 😢
A beautiful young healthy male who survived harsh winters and beat the odds only to be senselessly gunned down by a horrible cowardly human being for "sporting". Despicable person. :(
Teresa B. They try to say it’s to keep the certain animal populations down but we need to keep our population down and under control. 🤦🏻♀️
Crown yeah,he actually kills to eat. Not to get a 'trophy'
@@goromi8340 1. he is called a "trophy hunter"
2. This is in Wyoming, that Hunter is in america, consumerism paradise, if he can afford hunting he can afford going to the supermarket
@@ANJROTmania There are so many ways to contribute to wildlife conservation without killing animals though. I think you should show a little more empathy for these animals.
@@Googles_Hands because meat from the supermarket grew on a tree
the mountain lion went through so much in its very short life all to be killed by some asshole trophy hunter.
yea and the money he paid for the hunting tag is what pays for these cameras and the research. so go ahead and ban trophy hunting. poachers will continue to kill off the population but you wont know about it because the funding for stuff like this wont be there.
Uhhhh.... I'm sorry? The money for a National Geographic documentary won't be there if trophy hunting is banned? Yeah that's definitely not where Nat Geo get their funding...
bigbrain457 I hear that!
@@radagast1184 its natural for Cougars to kill other animals for food, Cougars do not hunt animals to decorate their house, they do it to survive. its called the ecosystem
@@radagast1184 of course it's something not to consider. I just wonder how brain dead you are.
M72 & M18 will be missed... rest in peace my little babies TT ____ TT
Its M-80 but oh well
oh well
oh welly well....
Get a life, dreamer
R.I.P.
I'm so emotional save the mountain lions
Mike Jones what is wrong with you
Come out to the woods and save them yourself... Be sure to try and tell it how much you love it when it is tearing you apart))
City people....
@@gariott2677 I might. I am a biologist after all
@@sydneymarks9671 All is fun and games when you are a city person snuggly sitting in your snuggly.. Till you come face to face with these beasties...last summer my friends and I were minding our own business camping not far from a small town when my brother spotted a cougar 30 yards from us in the dark with his flashlight BIG GLOWING EYES crouched near a tree... and it was not going anywhere.. there was 3 of us and it had absolutely no fear of us! We shouted but it came closer.. I pulled out my gun and rang out a shot ... it simply took off just to try to ambush us from the left... We had to form a triangle and slowing leave the area back to our vehicle because it was NOT gonna leave us alone... till it tasted blood... It was later found out by us from the locals that this cat had eaten 3 domestics cats and 2 beloved dogs..
Wonder how you would react if it was your cat, dog, child, or you?
All I'm saying is:
1.PLEAE HAVE A WEAPON ON YOU AND DO NOT GO ALONE!
2. They need to be hunted every now and again to keep the balance of power and fear for humans going. Of-course following the law and buying tag but they NEED TO BE HUNTED.
@@gariott2677 1. Maybe you should stay out of the woods if you don’t want to see them.
2. They don’t need to be hunted. They need to be left alone. If you have to kill one in self defense, then do it.
3. They’re beneficial for the ecosystem. They keep the deer population healthy and in check. They’ve been a part of the ecosystem way before we showed our stupid selves to their habitat.
4. Their populations are fine. Their populations can manage themselves. If anyone has a population problem, it’s us. We’re highly overpopulous that we keep encroaching into wildlife territories.
Imagine how that phone call went.
"Yes, hi. Is this research team so-and-so? I just wanted to let you know I shot this cougar and it had one of your tags in its ears. Here's the number."
"Ah y-yes, thank you very much."
*Hangs up*
*Cries over month's worth of kitten footage*
Whilst in California, I spoke to someone who had shot three mountain lions over the previous month. I pointed out that that was illegal and more to the point immoral given the scarcity of them. His excuse was that they can eat the kilo equivalent of one deer per month. It is good that this is now an excuse used by only a small minority of people.
animals r better then us...even after we got so big brain.....😑
We r worst den animals
What a little coward hiding behind his gun. Let's track him down and hunt him, see how he likes it.
Wrong hunting them is illegal in California. You need permission from DFG and proof they are causing damages or are a threat to safety.
I doubt that, having hunted all over the state and done extensive backcountry exploration throughout southern Californias most common mountain lion areas, I've only seen 2 lions ever, one was on a ridge about a mile away from me and the other deep in a canyon in Potrero, california. Unless that guy had hounds trained in tracking lions or was a rancher with a depredation permit and a really bad cougar problem he was lying. Or you are lying to put a bad name on hunters.
Also a lion will eat much more than the equivalent of one deer per month try closer to 5 or 6
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I'll never understand trophy hunting u_u
Trophy hunting is for those who would be better off in the military but never tried or were too crazy.
It's quite simple actually.
They have an urge to kill. Not unlike a serial killer or mass shooter.
The deaths of animals satisfy that urge in most people who have them.
Or maybe it's actually because hunting is ingrained in our culture. Hunting on horseback with you hunting dogs at the heels of your prey. This happened a lot in most cultures throughout history. A better example would be the gladiatorial contests in Rome.
It's a sport. How else to control the population? Mountain lions are not endangered; in some places in fact they're too numerous and pose a danger to herds, pets, and small children. Too many of them and they'll die excruciating deaths from starvation or freezing or disease. Today their numbers are protected and managed; when populations rise too high, hunters are allowed to pay for the privilege of hunting them. This is a scientific process determined by wildlife biologists. If you have a better way to manage it, please do share.
Truth is, Nat Geo lied. That was no trophy hunter. An 2 or 3 year old male cougar is no trophy at all. That was simply a hunter doing what he or she does in their place in the food chain. They were helping to control the population to prevent the population exceeding the carrying capacity of that particular area
I've seen a baby mountain lion near my town, which is rural, they're the cutest little things but their mothers are not.
yeah you're right their mothers arent cute, they're gorgeous
Zain Abe simp
Well , Their mom's have a job to do .
chris chan :flushed: .....Exactly🙄
Someday when you are mom, you'll feel like a female cougar with her offspring.
I love how they’re born with spots but eventually grow out of them. fascinating creatures they are and adorable lol
Just like deer, and some other animals. But yeah, absolutly fascinating.
Trophy hunting is pure evil. Unless it's meant for eating/sustenance in survival situations killing wild rare animals like these should be banned and harshly punished if committed.
What you described isn't trophy hunting.
@@Floridaman1780_ I really didnt want to comment but I'm going to anyway-
Trophy hunting is hunting for sport-
You are not using the animal you hunt for anything but to say you killed it.
You are not using it's parts to eat.
Therefore it is useless to trophy hunt.
@Sushant M I know, but that's not really trophy hunting, I find it alright if you at least use the animal parts like the meat and fur, but the killing for fun and sport, I just dont like it.
@PunchingMegaTree yes, I was thinking of that. I do understand somewhat of trophey hunting, as it is showing you can kill an animal. Which is strength. However personally instead of having its body on display for everyone to see, I think we should put its body to good use. And yes I do know that mountain lions are not near yet. However it is actually getting closer, since a lot of people do not care for them. There are places that say If you see a mountain lion. Kill it immediately-
Ok, ok lol I realized I ranted a little, sorry about that, I do not wish hard feelings or any rudeness to you. I hope you have a good day/night/evening/morning! ^^
Christian O. Holz killing rare wild animals is banned and harshly punished. Endangered animals are almost always protected, and tags (a piece of paper saying you are legally allowed to kill a certain animal) aren’t given out for those animals. If you are ever caught poaching (hunting without a tag) you will get a $10,000 fine (might change based on the state), face jail time, and have any items (gun, truck, ammo, etc.) on you permanently confiscated.
Trophy hunters must have some mental problems
juandeldiablo696 yeah Narcissism, not exactly the sort of mental problem deserving of sympathy
Yeah, how dare they preserve nature. They should be like you and everyone else commenting, let everything get turned into parking lots.
promontorium that moment when they art even preserving nature. A trophy hunter isn't gonna stop multi billion dollar corporations from turning the rockys into a giant super mall
They have extreme low self esteem, killing a dangerous animal is one of their ways to attempt to feel good about themselves, most assuredly these are the same people who abuse their wives and children, keeping the cycle going.
The state does not force people to do this.
Trophy hunters? You could've just said low lifes but whatever works for u.
Hunters preserve species by paying to keep wildlife habitats intact. You do nothing but comment on the internet.
If you're an American citizen your taxes go to pay for our National Parks and Monuments. These parks belong to EVERY CITIZEN, as soon as you are born in America you inherit our parks and become caretakers of it. So you don't have to be a hunter to preserve these places, just care for our National Parks.
Could have just said cowards with guns, but low life works also.
promontorium lol umm no the planet is extremely populated with humans because we’re all trying to live forever, hunters don’t do nothing except kill, when it’s the human race that needs to decline. There’s billions of people starving to death and we’re worried about animals being animals.
Yeah, let's do like in France : wipe out all predator specie, and every year end up with over-growth population of deer and wild boars trampling over all your crops.
Predators regulate wild herbivore's population from overgrowing, and trophy hunters don't regulate anything : cougars are an ENDANGERED SPECIE, for crying out loud. And YOU are just trying to bring justification to a despicable murdering habit (maybe you share this habit too, who knows?).
So NO : trophy hunters don't deserve any sympathy for their activities, the only thing they deserve is a bullet in the fore-head, and even then it'd just be a waste of ammo on them.
"Only 1 in 5 kittens live to raise their own families"
God I hate trophy hunters, I hope all of them will be locked in jail one day
PunchingMegaTree until you realize poaching is still a thing something warden can’t account for so they end up killing off way more than they need to
@@thewildcardperson Poachers are trash, however they're also not very common. The Division of Fish and Game DO NOT give out tags in a way that if all tags are filled, and a few more animals are killed in addition, it will hurt the population. There is a buffer in the harvest estimation for the season so that these unaccountable deaths won't hurt the population overall, and if the population drops more then expected for whatever reason, limits will be passed for next season to prevent it from dropping anymore.
What makes someone a trophy hunter? Well it's the mindset of the hunter, who is hunting purely for the trophy and the meat is an afterthought. I don't believe this is the right way to go about hunting, however at the end of the day the outcome is the same, the meat will be harvested and won't go to waste, and the animal was still harvested with a legal tag so the population was not harmed, that means only difference is the mindset of the hunter. If the "trophy hunter" was to not to harvest the meat, and just take the head, that is poaching and is illegal. How the filmmaker knew whether or not the hunter was a "trophy hunter", I have no clue, and more likely then not it was said that way to vilify the hunter who happened to legally harvest the mountain lion the crew was filming.
PunchingMegaTree well whatever tags you are doing are obviously not working is it?
That isn't because of hunting you moron. Alot of species young never make it to reproduce.
I hope for worst
It's so nice to see Daddy coming and sharing food with his family, nice video. Their life is really hard...
Even human siblings dont come along caring for each other as these amazing animals do for each other
Trophy hunters are such garbages.
And the only people protecting species in many places.
Tiny Floof when there are too many wolves the deer population will be threatened and if nothing is done the deer population in an area could be annihilated so it's up to us to hunt just the right amount of wolves to keep the population in check because if we leave the wolves to multiply the moment the deer runs out some wolves will start hunting cattle and humans. though there has to be a balance and strict enforcement of regulations to how many people can hunt not unlike those in unstable political climates like Africa where corruption can easily take place and easy to get away with.
They're only "protecting" species because its in their best interest so they can continue to hunt. They don't genuinely care about animals or about biodiversity. Its sad that we have to rely on money from trophy hunting to protect wild life.
it doesn't always go that way.
Andres Terrazas I mean to be fair which is better a hunter paying to hunt an animal or that animal becoming a nuisance. When an animals population goes out of control the state or local government uses tax payer money to pay people to go hunt down these animals until their population is under control again. An example is California and mountain lions, you’re not allowed to hunt them so Californians tax money is being used to keep them under control. Where as a better situation could be you have hunters PAY to hunt them and the state makes money and saves money. Like many others in the comment section have said hunting helps with conservation efforts, hunters pay to hunt, they put their money where their mouth is. Unlike people who just like the idea of a mountain lion, until it kills their dog or runs off with their 4 year old.
Can I just say this new information is astonishing!!! I never knew they had such family structures, I mean the father's visit and they adopt?! Just amazing! 💓
Love that cat. Always will.
Julian Smithe that alone wont save them
@@leonledergerber6142 Then we should do something to save them.
IMO, trophy hunters are people who are scared of anything wild. So, to prove their "bravery and power" over these "beasts", they hunt them down from a distance using guns. Quite cowardly really.
Yvonne P i might hunt a black bear but its the most common bear on earth so its way different then big cats
Yvonne P so you hunt bears, deer, wolves, cougar etc with your hands or knives?
#KillingisNOTconservation #BanTrophyHunting
That's certainly true. But it's true of hunters in general. I've had a lot of outdoor hobbies, unfortunately including hunting many years ago, and I can tell you that there's no more scared bunch of boys in the woods than hunters. It's really unfortunate the amount of misinformation the general public is subjected to about animals; much of it coming from hunters. But if hunters didn't exaggerate the wily nature of game animals and the ferocity and danger of predators, they'd be exposed for what they really are; cowards. I track cougars every chance I get and have caught many on trail cameras, and even one using my DSLR in daylight, and when a hunter hears what I do for fun, they act like I'm insane. Fear comes from ignorance, and hunters demonstrate that with nearly every conversation they have regarding wildlife.
If someone hunts with a spear yall cry unnecessary cruelty
I have to admit I did cry
Whats this liquid coming out of my eyes?
there tears my friend. its okay to feel sorrow for such majestic animals. hopefully those dam trophy hunters will get a little payback in return so they feel what inocent animals do.
It's those trophy hunters that pay for the management of the habitat they live in.
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LifeStalker Those trophy hunters do not pay for anything. Most likely, they are poachers. My husband is a huntsman & I understand wildlife management. He processes what he takes & gives thanks. A trophy hunter is not thankful, just a braggart trying to compensate for his lack of testosterone by killing for sport.
TheLifeStalker they are tears dude...
How wonderful these cats are, how graceful and gorgeous, they must live their life being safe. People must never do them any harm and care of them❤️🐈
If I was a shape shifter I would live in Mountain Lion form lol
I would then shape shift to take your place and become ultimate Frisbee champion.
Same or any type of feline
@LagiNaLangAko23 perfect
I'd be a t-rex
I've always thought it would be cool to soar as an eagle 🦅
That was such a moving documentary . Wow
Truly amazing that a female cougar would adopt another's cub. Spectacular animal in every way, shape and form.
I'm fucking crying
Me too :(
same!
Same here... :(
some time i wish i could hunt the hunters >_
tell me what do we have more white rhinos or humans ?
icewolf026
You seem to think I give a fuck about any specific species. Besides, most hunters hunt local animals, like squirrels, ducks, boars, foxes, wolves...ect...
You also seem to be under the impression that even a significant percentage of our 7 billion population are psychopaths...That of course is not the case.
you can
David W why is killing a human worse than killing an animal? Yes we are humans and yes its cruel but animals deserve to live too and so many of them are more intelligence and amazing than you could imagine. I do not believe that humans are superior to any animal. We are all equal. These hunters deserve to be punished. Maybe not by being murdered but nevertheless punished. These mountain lions are beutiful creatures who do not deserve to be murdered for their body to be placed on a wall.
David W “while they ONLY killed animals” I think us all(animals and humans) have equal right to live on this earth and by giving us superior intelligence, god has entrusted as guardians of this planet and here are people like you who kill animals to boost your ego and hide your insecurities...
I'm rooting for Frostbite. I hope she's had many successful litters! It's sad that people are killing off these beautiful creatures.
Wow. Was not expecting to have tears coming from my eyes by the end of this.
Beautiful narration.
An absolutely wonderful video. What an extraordinary crime against Nature it would be to let such amazing animals go extinct. The work of these camera people is invaluable.
Despicable trophy hunters
Learn how to spell.
Julio Amparo
Hey moron, he used the 'edit' function after I pointed it out.
David W why point that out then have you ran out of arguments trophy hunting dipshit?
What argument? I also love that you thumb up your own comment. What a pathetic windbag.
You clearly don't know my position on trophy hunting. Dumbass confirmed.
Beautiful creatures!
My sister has a small fountain outside her house in Southern California. Sometimes at night a mountain lion comes with her babies to drink from the fountain. Then she lays on the wall and watches as the baby lions play with the kids balls left outside. If the Mother lion spots my sister watching from a window, she just stares but doesn't stop the babies from playing.
This was beautiful.
Especially, the part where their intimate bonds are showcased.
wait, it is legal to kill mountain lions? Perhaps they would be less endangered if they had protected title. It makes no sense to kill for, what those thieves call, "a trophy". And I actually thought that humans were intelligent..
@Sims 3 Forever Dude You couldn't be any more wrong. There's only 20,000-40,000 left in the wild which is only a fraction of their historical populations. Also, while they may still have a large range, much of that territory has been lost to human development. Not to mention the thousands of roads and highways that inhibit their ability to migrate like they were able to do in the past. Burying your head in the sand and pretending like humans aren't decimating wildlife populations around the world, including cougars, is not going to solve the problem.
Sims 3 Forever Dude compared to tigers the mountain lion is doing very well and their numbers have risen because of conservation efforts, but their current range is only a small fraction of what it used to be,
It depends on where you are at. Different states have different laws regarding mountain lion hunting. Some allow, others do not. With that being said, it is also not unheard of for trophy hunters to poach a lion in an illegal state, then acquire a lion tag from a legal state, so that they can get their lion to a taxidermist or whatnot. Sad but true.
There are at least a dozen states in the US that still allow hunting of mountain lions. However, the term "trophy hunter" could apply to either legal or illegal hunting that is for the purpose of obtaining a trophy. So, we don't actually know which of these is being referenced in this video. (Wyoming, however, is one of these states.)
@@bradendouglas6980 Lions are in an even worse state
Classed as vulnerable (17,000 to 20,000 left in the wild )
I encountered one while mountain biking, they're not aggressive like one might think. It just stared at me for a bit and kept going on its way
LUCKY you. I have been an avid outdoorsperson all my life. Hiked all the back country in Central California and have never been lucky enough to see one. They are beautiful.
What a incredible mother 😭
This was educational and beautiful. Thank you
Very emotional.. glad this shows up in my recommendation
Nature is truly beautiful yet Cruel and gruesome at times but still beautiful.
Go mountain lions!
this has me crying. poor little fellas that died.
Nature is cruel and indifferent. It isn't the individual that matters to nature, as long as the group succeeds and reproduces.
@@evelynwaugh4053 It’s still sad, though.
Now that was an awesome video .THANK you
3:27 that shot is so beautiful i could keep it as my wallpaper
Sad and beautiful.
Federally protect these beautiful creatures 💔
These creatures are more loyal to there kids, than us humans to our own.Not just by love and bond but its there nature it's something that isnt gonna change for many years to come
How adorable such gentle mothers that these cats are the same with african lions they may be vicious predators but they are just as loving!
Aww what a beautiful creature!!
Мама дарит котятам,тепло и молоко, защиту.
Trophy hunters you should be charged with a crime killing these beautiful animals.
They are Beautiful
The story of this wild animals made cry...... Especially M-80...... 😢😢😢
So sad. These are beautiful animals.
It's so nice to see a puma daddy coming to see his family. They have a tough life. Oh. Nice video ♥️
I almost cried
What a beautiful film! I love these cats!
This video, was the first ever video about animals that made me cry. Like literally. 😢
wow... so powerful & beautiful story of a cougar family
That was beautiful! I choked up a little. :(
Can we see more of these splendid animals? Even by purchasing documentaries.
I don't understand why anyone would dislike this video 🤷♀
Trophy Hunters hate getting called out 😂
Thank you for FANTASTIC video. ❤👍🏻❤
Very insightful and informative...
Amazing vid!!!
Trophy hunting should be banned
Why? Trophy hunting helps keep murderers at bay.
Would you prefer more serial killers and mass shootings to exist?
Hunting, for meat or trophy helps satisfy the desires of thousands...desires that would turn to fellow species if banned.
+David W I think your thinking is flawed. We can’t accept trophy hunting just because it could possibly prevent murderers from murdering human beings. What happens when the trophy hunters kill off all the animals they like to hunt then? It’s no solution at all.
Alyssandra Wu
I'm all for extermination of psychopaths, but that's not likely to happen. Thus, keeping their attention elsewhere is the best solution we have and the one currently legal in the U.S.
That being said, I fully support rounding them up and euthanizing them. They're a disease on our society, only bringing good people harm. We're objectively better off without psychopaths among us.
+David W The solution your giving is like trying to put a bandaid on gashed stomach. Also, where are your statistics proving trophy hunters will turn to murdering people if laws against poaching and hunting were tightened in countries and places where hunting is still legal?
And say if what you say is true, and trophy hunting directly links to human murder in its absence. Then we should just put all the trophy hunters onto death row or in jail immediately is what you're implying.
Alyssandra Wu
Gas chambers would be cheaper. No need to stress the tax payers.
We need to do a lot more to protect these amazing creatures so we don't lose them to trophy hunters!
My cat and I watched this and we were both caught up in it as though it were really happening in front of us and not on a screen. I was crying out for the lions and sad to hear two didn't make it. This is my guilty soap opera.
mountain lions are truly amazing. i love them. and i wish many survive and thrive.
I cried a bit. Thanks for sharing.
The Bald Eagle gets way too much attention in the US, we have SOO many incredible creatures that completely get ignored.
Wow!!! I thought Moutain Lions were completely non-social creatures🤯 this is amazing, but again...so so sad about the two kittens who didn't make it😭😭😭
This is so sad. Just shows how hard life is for wild animals
those kittens are too cute! they might kill me one day but I still wanna pick one up and hold it 😊😊
#RIPMyManFirecracker
May he Rest In Peace. May God rest his soul.
Im fighting depression and i just wanted to see some cute kittens... but one of them died and i feel guilty about it
Seeing their family bonds makes me cry i want to own all kittens to share my love
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Same
These animals are absolutely beautiful. Why would people would to kill them?
Food and sport. Simple answer.
Also they attack people but not often.
@@randybobandy9828 The only time it’s acceptable to kill a cougar is in self defense or defense of loved ones. There is no need to actively hunt them.
Respect the wild.. love all wildlife
The thumbnail to this video as ADORABLE!!!
I honestly cried when they said he was gunned down, I have seen so many smiling faces in pictures with a mountain lion...and I hate it, I hate it so much-
I saw a picture of a mountain lion and there was a person's foot in the picture...and it was dead...it was less than 1 year old...you could faintly see the spots...it had attacked a young boy- I cried to that picture, the parents should've known better, leaving their child unsupervised- even if it was just in their backyard- There are animals that will hunt is-
We are not what this world revolves around and we cant seem to understand it, this world was NOT Made for us...
This world was never made for us...and yet we think it is- we think we own it...and I just dont understand how we dont see that...
Anyway I'm sorry for that rant- I had to get it out...
I cried :'(
The moment I realize animals can teach us about family than our own kind can.
Great content wow beautiful animals in deed.
RIP sweet, special angels 💖💖
I'm crying :(
Amazing how they can survive those cold winters, right?
As a big cat lover and animal lover in general, i adore Mountain Lions and have spent the past forty or so minutes arguing with trophy hunters who kill them for sport about it. I, using logic and actual fact, seem to be winning.
Me too! I'm a big cat advocate and I do believe that trophy hunting is going DOWN. It's so refreshing to see.
They are so cute, I’m crying 🥺❤️😍
They are so adorable💗
What if to hunt a trophy hunters for trophies ?
unfortunately that's called being a serial killer
That's a serial killer you absolute psychopath.
lol
@@gusty7153 Trophy hunters are serial killers themselves, except for wild animals.
Is there something I can do to participate in such activities of observing and conserving whilst holding a regular job? I have a degree in anthropology of that helps.
It's 2019 already and so many species have extinct and i don't know why it is not ban yet.
It's 2021 and we still have morons online who think Most species are extict because of hunting. There is a reason that trophy hunter was able to hunt that cougar, because it isn't endangered anymore. It's labeled as least concern.
@@randybobandy9828 It should still be considered a underpopulated species that's 1 bad disease outbreak away from extinction.
@@mokushmasmo6009 lmao what? What are you talking about? That makes no sense.
@@randybobandy9828 There is no need to hunt them, whether or not they’re endangered. Leave them alone.
@@osamanazzal4302 so just because they are a predator they shouldn't be hunted? Or Is it because you think they are of more value vs a deer or elk?
So amazingly adorable
so heart-touching
I don't get the point of trophy hunting. Wow, so impressive to kill an animal from a distance where they can't hurt you with a gun you didn't make.