Argentina vs France Ref & VAR Decisions Part 1 | Explained
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The FIFA World Cup Final Qatar 2022 between Argentina & France was filled with drama and controversial moments. Ref & VAR decisions had a big impact on the game, but were the decisions correct? If you're looking for a clear explanation with references to the Laws of the Game, I've got you covered.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:08 Di Maria Penalty?
0:48 Muani Penalty?
1:07 Thuram Penalty?
1:43 Martinez Offside?
2:23 Montiel Handball?
2:45 Summary
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La final de la Copa Mundial de la FIFA Qatar 2022 entre Argentina y Francia estuvo llena de drama y momentos controvertidos. Las decisiones del árbitro y del VAR tuvieron un gran impacto en el juego, pero ¿fueron correctas? Si está buscando una explicación clara con referencias a las Leyes del juego, lo tenemos cubierto.
La Finale de la Coupe du Monde de la FIFA, Qatar 2022 entre l'Argentine et la France a été remplie de drames et de moments controversés. Les décisions de Ref & VAR ont eu un grand impact sur le jeu, mais étaient-elles correctes ? Si vous cherchez une explication claire avec des références aux Lois du Jeu, nous avons ce qu'il vous faut. - Спорт
Lautaro Martinez wasn't "just onside", he was super onside. Hands don't count, only shoulders.
That’s true; he was well onside.
But it was counted as offside vs Saudi Arabia
@@Vendeta552 he missed the fact that is states that you need to whole arm to be offside, so lets say from his hands to his bisep or close to his shoulders or including his shoulder
@@Vendeta552 that was his shoulder, plus they used the wrong player to draw the line for offside, he was in fact onside but many people will ignore every call that went against argentina to scream fixed world cup as a way to cope
@@Michael-gi5th yes, that and the missed penalty vs Australia
Finally someone who's actually breaking the var decisions down instead of claiming the world cup is rigged
😅 yeah that’s the easy answer
Ref was outstanding in such a tense and high high stressful game...congrats!! He didnt make a simple mistake.
Agreed, strong performance by Marciniak.
That he saw that the Turan situation was amazing, but the first one wasn't a penalty it's a contact sport so this is way to light for a penalty. And otamendi shoud have been rewarded a red card at the penalty for France as he was the last player and stopped a clear goal scoring opportunity
@@thomasdevolder6310 the first two penalties are practically the same foul, stop trying to make up excuses
@@Nope-sj7es the same foul, the second one Otamendi was the last defender and he grabbed him by the shoulder
@@thomasdevolder6310 no, both fouls were caused by uneeded contact between the legs, please rewatch the video
It only became controversial because there is a certain fanbase who didn’t wanted messi to win Wolrdcup because he would clearly be ahead in GOAT debate.
There was that…
Very true😊
This was actually the most detailed breakdown on the situation. Much needed. Thanks
I appreciate that! 👍
Too bad it is also a wrong analysis.
@@4400seriesFAN 😭🐢
Chosen wisely must be French 👀
@@PaulSpacey "Players reaction is Something that the Referees Take into Account"?... What?
Also die maria was the Same as thuram but it Just looked better on Screen
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Referee has shown his masterclass. Great job! VAR could be of no use if refereeing happens like this...
Solid performance from Marciniak
Great referee
First pen was gifted
@@mikecane6501 watch the video before barking
@@lionelmessi1085 I did and pen was gifted
The ref was very well balanced throughout the whole match.
The foul on Di Maria WAS a penalty. It doesn't matter if it was a hard or soft foul, it was a foul. There are several things that go into determining whether a foul is a foul (and with the consideration of a perfect world).
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nawh
But he was diving already dimaria left his foot behind
@@olivier4916 he dribbled past dembele already. Then, when dembele tried getting close to di maria, he caught di maria's foot. Not that dembele intended yo do it, but it's the same as when you're walking too close behind someone - one of you is going to feel it and trip up most likely.
@@saucy_z9237 yeahawh
It was a historic match, with outstanding performances, including the performance of the referee who did not make a mistake in any of his important decisions.
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Pedro Pinzon. Has pensado en lo que sucedio en el min. 62, cuando Upamecano derribo dentro del area a Mac Allister, que habia ganado la posicion para acceder al balon? Fue una falta claramente ilicita, porque Upamecano no tenia, ni posibilidad, ni intencion de tocar el balon y ademas, porque lo empuja por la espalda y lo hace caer. Para que fuera licita habria sido necesario que fuera con el hombro, contra el hombro (y no contra la espalda) de Mac Allister y que, sobre todo, Upamecano tuviera posibilidad e intencion de acceder al balon.
That referee was so precise with his calling of penalty. It’s so impressive.
Nice breakdown. I was dubious of the Di María pen but you’ve done a better job with your angles than some others out there. Definitely a great performance by this ref and no one should feel hard done.
Thanks Robert. We all have different opinions and that’s ok but Di Maria was a pen based on the push and leg contact IMO.
Even this video missed out on the real reason it was a penalty: the pictures used here are late to the fault. Just before this photos, Demuele hits on the back of Di Maria's heel, which causes it to bounce heavily on the ground and counting as enough cause of tripping. Easy to see in HD and slo mo
@@adriannuske any links to that？
They had a great slow motion moment of it on the match of the day? The one with Gary Lineker where you can clearly see Di Marias heel being clipped and it causes hit foot to hit his calf.
@@adriannuske Remember that many people doubting and calling it a "soft penalty" have never in their lives played football or ran at full speed and felt what a "slight touch" feels like and what can it do to your balance. Football is now full of tourists that use it to get a feel of fulfillment and pride.
I think the referree did an outstanding job in this match. Di Maria penalty was a soft foul but a foul nonetheless. He gets clipped from behind by Dembele. First penalty on France was also the correct decision as the french player was through on goal and the argentine defender brings him down deliberately. The handball penalty was clear as well as his arm was not stuck to his body and had he not blocked it, the ball would have went past him and possibly could've been a goal. The Thuram penalty is a little harder to determine but once again the referee made the right call. As Thuram approached the defender and saw that he had extended his leg out he saw a golden opportunity to try and get a penalty but the defender with quick reactions pulled his leg back just in time to avoid tripping Thuram but Thuram had already commited himself to get the foul so he dives in an effort to get the foul called but good job on the referree for seeing it.
Great summary and description 👏
@@PaulSpacey
Many people said that Qatar 2022 FIFA World Cup was rigged for Argentina. But 2015-2016, 2016-2017, 2017-2018 UCL seasons (when CR7 played for Real Madrid) was not rigged? Many offside goals scored by Real. So, the debate between Messi and Cristiano is over
The judgement on thuram could be the same for di Maria. He knew he could get a foul and left his leg behind.
Ref has been faster than var. superb performance
Yes, he didn’t need VAR (they would have checked anyway to ensure no obvious errors).
I agree, he got a great payment to award the pen to arg.
@@realfan91 why do you think that?
@@realfan91 😂😂😂 literally people like you should just stop watching football my guy made a whole video to provide proof you guys cry about and it’s still not enough. 😂
Ronaldo fans all converted to MBombu, Mbamboo or whatever his name was... That Ninja turtle guy fans for this final, lol.
It was spectacular match, and hard to ref, but imo the referee made very good decisions, he dynamized the game, if you are thinking that ref was bad, check the match for 3rd place. It was catastrophy. In this video there is a very accurate explain of his decision. Good job!
Thanks! And yes, officiating for the 3rd place game was not good 🤔
I was trying to find a video explaining the ref's calls in the final, given that they were more that crucial. Them being 3 penalties is the main one.
That was a great job! I'm convinced he made all the right calls.
Glad you found the video useful! I’m also convinced he made the right calls but I appreciate we all have different perspectives so not everyone will agree 👍
@@PaulSpacey is Upamecano or someone handballed before Mbappe took the shot? For the 3rd penalty.
@@poppop321123 looks like that ball hit his head
Try to explain that to french people and messi haters. Good luck
@@poppop321123 no, it hit his head, not his arm, the angle of the video is misleading
World class performance by the ref.
Probably the best individual performance. He was firm and in control but showed character and some humor to keep players relatively relaxed. Notice the game didn’t get out of control at any point.
Are you fucking kidding me🤣🤣
@@SukunaAnimeArtist wdym he didnt make any big mistakes
@@SukunaAnimeArtist The refarri was pure cheater..and they praising them 🙂🥲..
Before Messi scored his second goal substitue players ran into the pitch and according to the rules they should take away the goal. And before Montiel a french player touched the ball with his hand so the decision wasn't correct. Argentina should have get a free kick.
This was the best ref performance of the whole worldcup. Literally no mistakes.
And I was a France (Mbappe) fan. I won cause Mbappe scored 4 goals. The highest in the history of a worldcup final
Only 3 goals. That was a penalty shootout which is a non-game goal.
3 penalty and 1 goal💀🤡
Still that was a good match if not the best
@@ahmedelgendy485 still more than Messi and more than The shity team of moroco did in the entire competition
No mistakes? The third goal was messi offsides and they went into var. Messi was involved in play which should have made the goal be dissalowed
Excellent refereeing in the final. That's a rarity.
Agreed! Marciniak did a great job 👏
There should have been a foul given at 2-2 inside the box, for France. Lots of dirty tackles went without cards.
@@PaulSpacey Excelent? check my comment HUGE mistakes were made.
Before Messi scored his second goal substitue players ran into the pitch and according to the rules they should take away the goal. And before Montiel a french player touched the ball with his hand so the decision wasn't correct. Argentina should have get a free kick.
@@laszlopap2565 İ watched the position again but couldn't see clearly is there any video about the hand ball
Now we know why FIFA Refereeing Committee Chairman Pierluigi Collina chose this team to referee the World Cup Final!!!
Collina chose his bald friend, obviously 😉
Nice video. Thanks. One thing I will like to see analyzed is that before the last penalty (hand from an Argentina player), I now see a hand from a France player just after the corner. As there is not much footage about that I will love to see someone analyze it in detail. Thanks.
I’ve tried looking at replays and it’s hard to tell. Appears to be a head not a hand but I’m open to being wrong! Thanks btw
I’ve seen a few different angles. There is one where it looks like hand, but the other perspectives show it was actually his head
I just asked the same thing
@Polyglot Traveler You and they are wrong. It is a head. If it was a hand, the ball would cover the palm. Instead of that you can clearly see the palm all the time. Also bounce angle clearly shows that ball bounced from the head. They are in different positions. Finally, other camera gives obvious answer that it was a head.
@@PaulSpacey How you can explain many french counterataques stopped by referee without giving yellow card ?
Best match I've ever witnessed. Two giants. One of them won fair and square.
Fantastic match, you are correct!
Fantastic clarification video!. Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Excellent job to explain this cases. I'm a Pole, so this match was a special for me, and I'm really proud of Szymon. Amazing ref's performance. One of the best of all time.
Thanks Marcin! Yes, Marciniak did a superb job officiating this game and was a credit to 🇮🇩
🇵🇱Poland flag😊 … Szymon Marciniak an amazing refree😊
When Szymon gave the yellow card to Thuram it was an absolutely outstanding moment.
Thuram dived very professionally, but the referee's instant reaction made even him smile (I don't blame Thuram for diving, otherwise I would not watch football at all 🤣)
I just watched ref Marciniak's interview and this guy is the most arrogant ref I have ever heard, he behaves completely narcissistically. Not an humble person for sure. But worst of all, during the interview, you could feel obviously what were his "preferences" concerning the final... I have nothing against Argentina but how a polish ref can do really fair since the polish team lost against France during 1/8. Were the other refs that bad? Just think about it...
@@gk6735 which interview? Could you gave us some proofs of your conclusions?
I'm tired of hearing a lot of people saying that we bought the game and that the ref was biased. It was one of the best arbitrations I saw in my life and I said that after he gave France 2 penalties.
Nice vid btw, you really have a talent to explain better than anyone how the rules of the game work.
I'm not saying you bought the game, but you should recognise that referee made several decisions in favour of your team
Bro the 2 penalty france got was very clear and even a amateur football watcher would know it's a foul
While the first penalty Argentina got doesn't even look like a foul, the player fall before dembelle make contact with his foot and the shoulder push was lighter than a kid full strength push
@@TomThePuss Not really. Dembele stuck his foot in unnatural position as if he was trying to trip Di Maria. If he didn't fall easily he could as well getting trip as well.
You're tired of it but it's the truth. Argentina was carried by the refs all along smh
@@TomThePuss Dembele actually pushed DiMaria's left leg BEFORE he started falling, causing it to impact his right leg and trip
I think right before the second penalty for France, the ball hit the French player’s hand first and then there’s the second handball by the Argentina player trying to block Mbappe’s kick.
Watch part 2 video, it was a header
Thank you for clarifying my doubts!
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This ref was way better than some of the prior refs. The first penalty, for Argentina, was the softest of fouls and dubious. He also stopped a fast French counter attack towards the end of the match to give a yellow card to an Argentinian player for a foul. Should have given advantage instead and done the booking later. Other than that, he was way better than the refs in England-France, Argentina-Holland, the ref who killed Croatia in the semi final etc.
good comment. First penalty was definitely soft but still a foul based on the contact and position Dembele was in (behind Di Maria). A referee can let play continue before issuing a yellow card but if the play has already stopped (which it did for the free kick) then the yellow card should be shown before play restarts.
The ref who killed Croatia? I don't remember the ref being a major issue during that game lol
@@RJG7203 yeah right, nothing to see here... Gimme a break, real theft- Crash into a goal keeper that stuck it self in place before the Alvarez collide into him. Now you are pretending that this did not killed the game. Now you can say goalkeeper moved and hit him in legs... Joke real joke. This penalty never happend in history. VAR was nowhere.
@@soldo77 yeah right nothing to see here,… gimme a break (
Ref who killed Croatia lmfao
Croatia was outclassed 😂
one of the greatest permormance of reffering.. and that was final.. outstanding, WE HAVE NEW COLLINA.
Lookalike also!
Marciniak was great!!
definitely! especially given it was the final with a lot of pressure.
Jee, everybody is looking at thurams rught foot, but look closer, fernandes kicks away thurams left foot, with the result Thuram cant place his left foot on the ground and then his rught foot keeps hanging.... so 100% penalty. Cant believe var did not see that
You don't give weak calls like that in a final. Not in any game. Di Maria intentionally went down even though the contact wasn't significant to even hinder him. Some people seem to think that every contact is a penalty now. Football is a contact sport though and the extent of the contact matters. This interpretation encourages diving.
@@Jose-sy1je But the most unbelievable thing is how people say Di Maria is a penalty and Thuram is not
Referee ruined the game. Buased towards Argentina. Otamendi no red card or even a yellow when he was the last man. Messi gets a free kick for running into a player. Messi pulls back French player to stop counter attack. No yellow. Di maria dive. penalty. Thuram dive. Yellow card. Ruined the game.
I love this video, it's detailed and is quick and straight to the point. W channel right over here.
Thank you! Hope you like the part 2 video and more recent one I did expanding on some extra footage and incidents
@@PaulSpacey No, thank you for making this video.
Argentina completely deserved this world cup.
Haters gonna cry
They won it so you have to say they deserved it 👏
In Cricket, every close call is reviewed by the umpire(referee) on VAR (called DRS in cricket). But in Football, it depends on the referees mood. Not a good rule
I agree every close call should be checked by VAR. Especially if it’s a final of a World Cup. I’ll never understand why they don’t go to VAR for things like this.
@@lepancho8122 var constantly reviews plays like this but doesn't always require referee attention
@@endronek How can you tell people with a straight face that behind the scenes VAR is doing a good job if they let the ref hand out a penalty for Argentina when DiMaria dives, but when Thuram does it after a challenge with argueably much more contact, he gets a yellow?
@@devnull1013 What can I say... I saw both situations multiple times and I agree with referee's decisions. If DiMaria wasn't clipped before he started falling then it wouldn't be a penalty. If Thuram was clipped before he started falling then it would be a pen for France. You can even see that in both situation players didn't really contest referee's decisions. Neutral experts also agree with referee's decisions.
Tho I agree that a lot of VAR decisions seemed controversial to me. It seems that with VAR and extreme slow-motion even the slightest touch can be classified as a foul.
Imagine if they stop the game every time the players have a complain about a doubtful fault
I have a question, if kolo muani passed the ball to mbappe when they had their last chance, would it have been offside?
Was Mbappé in an offside position? Muani took the right decision to shoot but should have scored based on the circumstances, although Martinez made a very good reaction save (with his foot).
Ref was superb, some people asking why VAR was not called, because the referee is the highest authority and wasn't in need of VAR to take decisions and quick decision making is what you need when you're playing a World Cup final. To people saying 'It was a soft foul' do yourself a favour and read football rules, the game is getting closer and closer to what the rules say thanks to technology.
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well said brother
I think you intentionally skipped 2 crucial phases here, you should have talked about the 2 French counter attacks, stopped by the referee for some imaginary yellow cards (the last minutes of the 90 minutes)
Certainly not intentional. I focused on the main moments with VAR. Yes the ref could and probably should have let the play continue in those situations.
Messi breaths:penaldog fans"rigged 🤡"
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@@TheMan-ec6becry cry
Pessi fans
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Typical pessi fans
Great Video. Did you see the hand from Upamecano just before the last penalty for France?
Yes it seems on the replay it’s his head and then his arm goes up but hard to tell for sure. Thanks!
thanks for clearing things up for us mate
Happy to help!
Otamendi should be given a red card for his tackle, period, it was a clear contact and from behind where there was no one between goal keeper and striker, clearly obstructing goal.
Other decisions could have been different if VAR was involved instead of Referee making an instant decision, even VAR confirmed they wouldn't have given a penalty for Di Maria's dive if they would have been referred without referee giving the penalty. They need clear evidence to over turn Referee's decision which wasn't there but they didn't have a clear evidence of any contact as well.
Messi was clearly offside and faking the play which should be considered as it confuses defenders. Even the image clearly shows the finger was offside for the last pass but now officials are not using finger and arm as offside when it was used for each and every offside decision in this world cup.
Thuram dive, you can argue it wasn't a foul, which it was IMHO, but Referee pulled out the yellow card as fast as possible to avoid any VAR intervention.
Anyway, happy that Messi won but would have been happier if this world cup was `Fair Play` and the fair team would have won the world cup.
Feels like this world cup was written Messi all over even before the knock out stage started. Argentina started their last 3 match with 1-0 lead before coming out of dressing room.
PS: It's really strange that FIFA has 10K Camera's & sensors inside the ball to check if Ronaldo's hair touched the ball or not, but they don't have much Camera angles to check an obvious Dembele and Thuram's foul.
So the ref got everything wrong. Ok. Tell me you’re a bitter French fan without telling me you’re a bitter French fan 🤔
@@PaulSpacey No he didn't get everything wrong. He got the most important decisions wrong which shaped the game. Tell me you support the referee's decisions no matter what. Without telling me you support the referee's decisions no matter what
Agree with everything you said. Except not happy that Messi won the world cup by cheating.
@@PaulSpacey I am not French, but looks like you're trying your best to keep people away from truth by creating such biased videos. A delusional Messi's fan written all over your video and your comments. You are asking people comment their opinion on your video and when it goes against you, you blame it to their nationality and bitterness, such a shame.
If the ref would have got few decisions(which i mentioned above) impartially, the shape of the match would have been different. Even Argentina won after that, it would have been a fair play and everyone would have been happy. That's what FIFA was all about, `Fair Play`, Not anymore.
@@abdvs325 My bad if you thought so, I never blame it on Messi, he isn't aware about all this, he is just doing the best he does, play. I wouldn't even expect him to stand against any decision by ref which are helpful to Argentina.
At 0:41 Dembele tripped Di Maria's left leg with his right foot. But wasn't Di Maria already starting to fall before this position? How can we conclude from this that it was a penalty?
I couldn’t include video because of copyright but when you watch video replays, Dembele makes contact with Di Maria BEFORE he begins to fall down. Again, it’s Dembele’s contact that results in the pen, not the overly dramatic fall by Di Maria.
@@PaulSpacey At 0:13 there was a contact that caused Di Maria to stumble yes, it's a clear penalty. But can the move at 0:41 cause a penalty?
The deal was give messi the worldcup before he retire and the fifa referees carried him with 5 penalties to the finals, we all now that by now.
But its nice to messi fans and kids
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I never have seen such a good referee
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The referee and his team were great! Maybe just small mistakes like it should've been corner or goalkick... but other than that, 👍👍👍
Agreed, good performance from officials overall
It’s not a mistake. But reality is how you want it to be so … 🤷🏻
Kolo muani was fouled during a dangerous counter attack and he should have kept the advantage
There are people saying that there was a hand by a french when he recibe the corner kick. They never showed that.
A big mistake was there, actually the last penalty was illegal the french player inside the box was kicked the ball towards Embappe by his left hand, so it should be a free kick for 🇦🇷
No, we don't agree.
There is a rule about "exploiting a slight contact to earn a foul/PK" and it is punishable with a yellow. DiMaria's PK had only a single point of contact and it was very slight. The Argentinian took advantage of it. He should have been booked. Also, all the French players raise their hands to say the opponent is flopping. What the actual fuck did you see? They were making the "go fuck yourself and get up!" motion!
And there is also the fact that Argentina's goalkeeper left the goal-line to make a save in the PK shootout and the referee didn't order a repeat and didn't book the keeper!
😂 you’ve never played the game Monsieur, that’s clear. The raised arms in unison is only an indication of potential guilt to someone who understands the nuance of football players’ psychology. Your perspective and bias won’t allow you to see that 🧄
@@PaulSpacey Fix your own bias first... You are a joke
I have inherent bias just like everyone else. I’m English so my bias leans that way. The Messi/Ronaldo debate and all that BS, I don’t care. That’s why I can review these games with relative objectivity 🥸
@@PaulSpacey Yeah, you are right... I have never played the game... I am just a certified football referee for years and years and played the game as a player for more than that. LOL
Unbelieveble. Referee and VAR were perfect both!
Almost perfect....
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This stupid UA-camr don't know anything and yet he acting like a pro everyone says that franc was against the referee not argentina
perfeitos?kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
@@MacGaren_Luce_Fe argentina es no blanco
@@gottmttunsk3502 Tiene razón.
I think on the Thuram situation he's expecting to be kicked so his instincts was to expect to actually be kicked, but he never was and then when he ends up going down anyway he knew that it went wrong, apart from the brief moment where he looked at the referee after he blew the whistle not knowing which side got the call initially
Spot on; exactly what I said to someone in another comment. No criticism of Thuram; in that situation I’d have expected the contact and would have looked for the pen! 😎
@@PaulSpacey It's not spot on, he got clipped on his left foot. Then he dived like Di maria did and like everyone else you focused on the right foot while you don't for Di Maria
He was blocked on his left foot, then "dragged" his right foot after already losing balance. No matter how you look at it, there was way more contact in that challange and just as little ball touch.
@@devnull1013 Funnily enough, I don't know if you talk about Di Maria or Thuram action because both action are like that, but only one was a foul for the ref
@@tm.8399 I meant the challenge on Thuram. From the angle from the goal line you can clearly see his left foot being obstructed, forcing him to land really awkward on the tip of his feet before he ever supposedly dives.
The Ref was superb all the way through, your explanations are excellent.
Thanks! Yes I thought he had a very good game
France really needs to be fair. Argentina won fair and square and France needs to accept it. All argentina goals were correct and both the teams played amazingly leading to the best finals in WC history
Great comment 👏
France didn’t even play amazingly. Argentina clearly dominated entire game, France was lucky cuz Otamendi couldn’t foul him outside the box, Montiel’s arm, and Messi lost the ball which was unfortunate.
Argentina chased to win the World Cup, France chased after Argentina. That’s the moral of the game
Depends on your perspective but most neutrals would agree Argentina probably deserved to win.
Great video thanks
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@PaulSpacey how about this 02:44?, Do you think it should be a penalty for France or not?
Yes based on the laws of the game and current guidance as Montiel’s arm was away from his body. However, they do need to clarify this law IMO as some other competitions have not called these instances so there is inconsistency.
Excellent video
I could understand people believing there was preference for Messi (and by the same logic also for France) getting to finals but the idea of a "rigged" cup is just conspiracy crazies doing a number on us
No one with at least some understanding of the complexities of an event like the WC (or a 22 people sport like football) could even fathom such outlandish idea. Even less if you considered it was somehow all risked by two French pens and a penalty shootout.
The attitude of people with this mindset is mental and only gives away two things:
1. They don't understand football nor event organization
2. They're bizarrely biased against Argentina
Also, don't people find it weird that FIFA didn't gave the cup as early as 2014 to Messi? But sure, they care so much for him and for his career to fix a 3-3 game, but not a 1-0 one
Wtf is wrong with these people
0:32 Whether or not French players raised their hands doesn't matter; ultimately the play itself has to be examined standalone. It is foolish for the referee to assume that just because they raise their hands it implies guilt of a fault being done; also the referee could also conclude that because they raise their hands that means that it is not a foul, because four or five people agree with each other.
Di Maria's penalty was not a penalty. He cheated, he dived, he acted. The penalty of France was more convincing but still the French player acted too a bit. Probably not a penalty too.
Great story but that’s not how refs evaluate decisions. Are you a ref or have you played the game? Genuine question.
@@PaulSpacey No I am not. However, what I'm saying about the hands seems pretty reasonable.
Dembele made contact from back if you don’t want penalty don’t make silly contact which will give the player a opportunity to go down
Di Maria's penalty was questionable.
Can't believe they didn't double check through VAR in a Final.
What's the point of having VAR if you're not gonna use it?
That 1st goal changed everything.
Its a foul on Di Maria, there are lots of video online showing his ankle get moved unnaturally by Dembele. The ref is absolutely sharp in this final making all the calls.
First penalty there is no contact with Di Maria, you need to use glasses
Ok I’ll order some 🥸
What is your opinion on Parades foul against Cavaminga is yellow enough or could/should it have been more. In general i think this world cup referees were extremly weak in punishing fouls espacally reapeating ones which is why morocco and argentina did so well defensively they were talking every opportunity to tac foul and rarely got punished (with cards).
I agree 100% on repeated fouls (referred to as cumulative fouls by referees). They were not punished in many games, including this one. Tactical fouls are smart and part of the game but they should also be punished with cards when they stop a promising attack or if they are blatant repeated fouls trying to slow down the game. Paredes was a yellow, not quite enough to be a red for endangering safety of an opponent.
Favored Argentina this whole World Cup. Four penalties in 7 total matches. Fk that bullshyt
@@NikeRunner210 You're obviously a child, but you could learn some history of the game. Argentina were awarded one penalty more than the Dutch team in 1978 and the Portuguese team in 1966. It's not a crazy number at all.
You seem emotional about it.
Great video, gives very clear and good knowledge about the game.
Thanks!
The ref lived up to the performance of the players. Couldn’t have asked for a better officiated game. Not perfect, but no ref ever is. He made the correct call on every major decision. Outstanding.
Spot on. He got almost everything right, including the important stuff.
@@PaulSpacey you've done your best in your pro Argentina agenda. Where are the field encroachment decisions? Otamendi should've had a booking for fouling as a last man. The referee stopped the advantage play of Coman when Acuna did a double foul by bringing down the player and then kicking the ball away. McAllister literally handballed a Thuram header. Bravo...on this very biased video. 💀
@@palashrawat401 Field encroachment decisions literally go both ways, French people were also on the field for Mbappe goal. Can't complain about that, it was a good final man, very hype, disappointing for french people sure but still exciting.
Balanced perspective from @Acreditar
@@palashrawat401 bro what 💀 if it was biased ref wouldn’t never gave France 2 pens 🤣. Dude there plenty of small calls didn’t go Argentina way either 🤣. Like a literaly corner kick was not given 🤣🤣 for Argentina . Probqlt others but I don’t go deep into such small things bc every game is like that 😊
Before the Argentinean player had elbow contact with the ball in the last penalty on the extension, there was a french player that made hand contact with the ball coming from the corner kick. Could you confirm it?
Lots of people mentioned it. Hard to tell from replays if it’s arm or head but it appears to be a header
Referee was so sharp and exquisite even in this sheer tensed game! Hats off to him! that's the best referring of the century
One of the best referee performances ever
Before Messi scored his second goal substitue players ran into the pitch and according to the rules they should take away the goal. And before Montiel a french player touched the ball with his hand so the decision wasn't correct. Argentina should have get a free kick.
Didnt stop l’equipe giving the ref a 2/10😂😂
@@laszlopap2565 I'll say this, those players running onto the pitch were inconsequential, and wouldn't have effected the actual goal being scored.
FIFA job is to police the game, but also to make sure a game is FAIR. Taking away the goal there is not fair.
Seriously if that's your main defense as to why France should've won I don't know what to tell you.
And the funniest is l'equipe gave this ref performance a 2/10. By comparison, they gave the England game ref a 4/10, the game where the french players were fucking butchering the other players with barely any calls. Just absurd.
@@BIadelores they give out ballon d'or and golden shoes...
This video is wrong about the first penalty given to Di Maria. If you compare to the Thuram foul, it is an equivalent situation in which Enzo removes his leg, but Dembele's foot was fully planted on the ground before it made contact with Di Maria's foot, therefore it was also not a penalty b/c there was nothing Dembele could've done to move his foot while running, so the foul was not intentional. It was just an accidental contact that happened as a result of the play/defensive effort.
How is it Dembele's fault that Di Maria's foot gets caught by his foot when it's not even moving at the point? That's just part the game. You're running next to or behind someone to keep up, and their foot hits your leg as you're running. That's not a foul. It would've been a foul if Dembele tried to intercept the ball as Di Maria's dribbling, failed, and instead clipped Di Maria in the process. That would've been a foul.
Thuram was not a foul, but neither was Di Maria's. Sorry. Some people who say that this World cup favored Messi are not completely wrong. There was a clear bias toward Argentina.
The BIG differing factor between both incidents is that Dembele was BEHIND Di Maria. It was impossible for him to get to the ball without touching/fouling Di Maria.
He was careless and foolish in his actions. This is not debatable. Contact is part of the game, having played for 20 years I agree on that BUT if you make contact from behind without touching the ball, you are at high risk of giving a foul away, even if your touch on the opponent is minimal.
Dembele clearly foult in di maria. And the haters are penaldo fans.
Di Maria dove that. He clearly falls before actual contact with the leg and the ref didn't even bother to check VAR which says a lot. Muani was literally grabbed and kneed with some momentum. They are not the same. Not surprised.. Argentina has 5 controversial penalties in this WC.
Pushed before he was touched with the foot/leg. Enough contact for a foul but everyone has their own perspective and opinion
@@PaulSpacey I do agree there was contact. However, from the footage from part 1 and 2 of your videos I've seen plus the actual footage of the game from what we are shown, it still looks like the Argentinian player made foot contact as he was falling and not before he fell. Hence why I think he dove and was intentional as soon as he was touched which resulted to more contact and justified it. If it was a push it would have had to of been extremely light. There have been much more aggressive fouls like ENG vs FRA for the English that weren't called or Morocco for example but they weren't. Probably bad and/or inconsistent refs.
Di Maria dive: "It's part of the game"
Thuram dive: "Thuram is smiling, so he's a dirty cheater"
What do you think about France's handball during the corner that led to Montiel's handball?
Header not handball
@@PaulSpacey I agree with you that it was a header seen from the angle where the ref was standing. Could you please post a clear video to shut people up about it.
It wasn't header it was hand ball clear handball.... Y VAR Didn't check don't know
@@Dahe20012001 you know why sure its header, because non of Argentinian player objected. Usually opponents will tell the referee that there is a hand touch
Handball ‘Hand of God’ payback. Argentina players did not complain because they couldn’t see it, view was obstructed due jumping as well and be in the bulk. If you ever played yourself you should know that.
Thank you! it's clear to me now, i was just wondering about the first penalty Argentina had.
Glad it helped! It’s still a game of opinions anyway
And France 2nd penalty wasn't even a penalty😂
@@abhiramm567 refarri was a cheater...only showed cards to Arjentina...menwhile France fouled many times..but refarri did nothing ...He tested VAR to make it offside...
@@khaledsaifullahbukhari3336 nah. If anything i think arg deserved another yellow or two. but its watever
@@khaledsaifullahbukhari3336 Well that will not change the match score, after all i think referee did a perfect job.
Thank you for the analysis.
My pleasure!
Hi, thanks for the analysis, about the 3th French goal, can you see a fault passing from french offensive to Mbape with a hand. If you see can you please post a video about it. Thank you!
I did a video it’s called part 2. Check my channel!
Was there a handball by the French player before Mbappe's shot that led to the second penalty?
No, the France player throws his arm in the air just after the ball goes away from him; doesn’t touch it
@@PaulSpacey I saw the clip after the game, it looked like he played with his hand, although it is possible that it was just the wrong angle. Thank you
Di Maria dived it was a booking for Di Maria i like the way you left out the camera angle that showed absolutely no contact was made I was a neutral for the match so just making a point.
I didn’t leave anything out; just showed multiple angles where contact appears to be made. If you have a different one where no contact was made, good for you! 🤓
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@@timothy3667 you are
@@bmcg8888 keep crying 🥱🥱
@@PaulSpacey the push contact was made before di maria fell. But it didnt result im him falling immediately.
The leg contact was made after Di Maria was already falling. Watch the video, it i better than pictures.
May you made a video about other controversial decisions of ref in this match?
I thought the ref had a good game but which decisions specifically are you talking about?
@@PaulSpacey The studs up tackle on mbappe after the offside, that is a red card. Biggest mistake was not playing advantage to Coman at end of normal time when France were definitely going to get a chance with mbappe pace.
i dont think the last handball must be a penalty because i felt like it was clearly outside the box but the most important is that we won 😅
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I find it funny no one seem to realise that dembele planted his foot already and it worked fine until Di Maria kicked dembeles leg. Dembele can absolutely be there and if his leg was going into Di Maria then that is a whole different situation. Leg was not hitting Di Maria on the way to being put on the ground. Di Maria causes the contact. Also you just assume the defenders raise their hands because they think it’s a penalty which is ridiculous. Obviously if someone goes down in the box during a WC final you want to influence the ref of decisions no matter if it’s a pen or not. Same thing they do to win some throw ins. Explanation of ref would be sufficient enough without your own opinions.
We all have opinions, that’s the beauty of this game. Yours is different to mine, understandable. We can both be correct 😉
I had exact same opinion, the first penalty are a bad call, shouldn't be given.
Great video mate. Overall I thought the ref was outstanding. Got a couple of doubts but that 3rd goal where the ball is played to Martinez, you can't really make out where his fingers are cause of the superimposed red circle.
Nice one mate I appreciate that. For the 3rd goal, offside is only judged by a players upper arm (in line with the armpit) so Martinez was actually well onside.
@@PaulSpacey Cheers
im part french and i gotta say that even though there were a bunch of close calls, i think all the right calls were made.
Overall it was a great game, well officiated.
Please answer, what about hernandez and Messi collision 27 min first half ? Can you review ?
I'll have a look when I can. I watched the game and don't recall seeing anything like this that was a foul...
Is notably that the ref made most of the right calls , before even double checking via VAR.
Solid game for the ref, Marciniak.
I don't understand why people were upset with the ref in the final 🙄 they were both clear pens.
And Thuram suddenly gets a yellow for no reason.
If the ref determines simulation, it’s an automatic YC.
@@PaulSpacey Yes, but the fact that he determines this differently for two similar dives is the problem.
What a great video! I only have one comment and that's regarding Montiel's handball. I don't disagree with you that it is a handball, but I must note that everybody overlooks the fact that there should have been a handball called against France just seconds before Montiel's handball. I am 1000% sure that would have altered the course of the game and prevented it from going to extra time.
It wasn’t handball by Upamecano btw. I did a couple of videos showing that he clearly headed it. The angle of some replays made it look like a hand but it was his head 😊
Thank you my brother, i hope other analyat will learn feom you
Yes more analysis coming soon
All correct calls. Montiel was just unlucky at the wrong place and wrong time cuz there was no way for him to react to Mbappe’s powerful shot. He was definitely unintentional but regardless
Montiel was a pussy, he was brought for one thing, to defend the lead. If you're facing a shot, be a man and take it head on. If it hits, let it. He just faced the other side like a chicken and got a penalty against him. If you're going to defend make sure you face the ball and not your own goal.
@@just_quit_fr and the chicken scored the last penalty like it was nothing. Stfu bro
@@ezegutierrez1 It was a soft penalty, he put no power on it, didnt place it. A better penalty saver like Bono, Martinez or Livakovic would have saved it.
@@just_quit_fr you should see how Montiel scored many other penalties before this one. Also he probably saw where the keeper was going and kicked it the other way
@@ezegutierrez1 perhaps, but either ways, it does'nt change the fact that he did'nt make the right call defending that corner
great analysis mate
Cheers!
Funny how people say Dembelé didn’t foul Di Maria but the truth is, he was having his ass handed to him. Why else would he be replaced at the 40’ min mark with no yellow card.
What is the difference with the Messi goal and the one Griezmann scored against Tunisia, when you come back from offside ?
It’s an obscure technical detail in the laws of the game guidance. If the defender is not in control of his touch or clearance (the Tunisia player was being pushed) then his ‘touch’ essentially doesn’t count and so the offside phase is not reset. Both calls were correct but I understand why people think it was a double standard with these two incidents. Hope that helps!
it was actually an impressive performance by the ref, given the stakes and the so many close calls.
True, tough circumstances and he was cool throughout
Hi,great videos on your channel! Can you please analyze refferee on world cup semifinale Argentina vs Croatia?Thanks
Thanks! The penalty for the keeper challenge on Alvarez was debatable but IMO correct decision as Alvarez got to the ball first and keeper is careless (in accordance with laws of the game and referee guidance). It’s debatable either way but more likely a penalty than not.
this is the most fair World cup final I've ever seen
Wow, what a clear explanation. I kinda confused when ref pulls yl card for thuram. Thanks a lot bro. This game is one of the few games the ref crew did a perfect job.
Glad it helped, thanks for the kind words!
what should be checked on messi's second goal are the substitues, on one angle they seemed to be on the pitch before the goal
Exactly thirteen argentin s players on the pitch AT this moment
Yes in law that is correct but refs have discretion and common sense. You can’t disallow a goal in that circumstance in good conscience.
@@yhbzhdaviken3245 There were also French subs on the pitch when France was attacking. If the ref calls out Argentina for it, he would have had to call out France as well, and disallow their goal.
The same happened just before one of Mbappé goals - 7 French substitutes were outside the line. It did not impact the game so the referee did not react.
Explained video.
Thanks for sharing
My pleasure, thanks 👍
Hey i had a question was the penalty argentina netherlands correct? (Foul on acuna)
Yes definite penalty. Dumfries and Netherlands players don’t even protest, they know. 👍
@@PaulSpacey So when you lift your hands up to say "no foul", it means you know there is one. And when you don't say anything there is one because "it's because they know that they don't react".
I agree and would add despite Di Maria going down too easily , Dembele made the mistake in sticking his foot, probably trying to trip him. His (attempted) push from the back may warrant a foul as well. I agree it's really part of the game. The 'dive' now probably could be interpreted as 'claiming a prize'.
I think the reason why people think this is not a pen is because they still think that contact is necessary to warrant a foul while in modern game despite the rulebook stated otherwise. Dunno if it's a good thing for the sport, though.
An illegal tackle is when contact happen, and a foul means and illegal TACKLE. Dembele could've made kung fu+breakdance in the vecinity of Di Marria as long as it doesnt impair Di Maria's ability to handle the ball in an ilegal way. No ilegal touch, means no impairment. There isnt something like "dont make gestures " or "if you deceive the referee you get a penalty" in the football rulebook. VAR exists for reasons such as this: to figure out if in sensitive situations like this contact happened(because the referee couldnt clearly see).
You’re right. Very good take. It’s probably not good for the sport but those are the laws as they stand for now.
@@sneakcr3144 So why did Thuram get a yellow card after they clearly impair his ability to handle the ball, without playing the ball?
@@sneakcr3144 No, not really. There's actually a rule that suggested even an attempt of fouling could constitute a foul.
For example in the foul section of IFAB, there is a point where you could get a direct free kick/pen if you 'trip' OR 'attempting to trip' someone. Since the 'trip' (which needs a contact) is mentioned the 'attempted to trip' means that even without contact, it could still be a foul. Therefore, even an attempt of pushing or risking a foul could be judged by this criteria.
If Dembele did a 'Kungfu' near DiMaria, he could get carded for endangering him as well, despite not touching him, since there is also a clause about 'attempting to strike'.
@@yoshuareynaldo2295 I exagerated when said kung fu, he could've been punished for dangerous play if he did kung fu, but that would mean indirect free kick from the box, so NOT A PENALTY. And yes, there is attempt, but what does constitute an attempt? If what you say is true, then the tackle on Thuram from 87 minute is even more a penalty than what Dembele did.
The expression "trips or attempts to trip", refers to the situation in which a player is runing behind another player that has the ball, and the player that is behind trips in order to fall on the legs of the running player, or, attempts to trip in order to break the player's ballance, but it requires some sort of physical contact, but even so, Dembele did not trip. That section refers to the player that doesnt have the ball,not the one that has it. Dembele didnt trip. Also, Dembele didnt strike, or didnt kick Di Maria. Di Maria clipped his own foot
www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct
You can see here....at section 2 : Indirect Free Kick
The second condition is "impedes the progress of an opponent without any contact being made".
So what Dembele did is at MOST an indirecte free kick but NOT A PENALTY.
Keep in mind, that historically, teams that won the world cup barely got 1 penalty per tournament, but argentina got 6 penalties in 8 matches , and most of them fishy as hell. And I am speaking as a guy that is happy that argentina won, I am not french, but I hate to see argentina win like this and also dislike what the world cup has become. In 1978, Argentina won cuz they bribed Peru. In 1986, Maradona scored with his hand. Now, Argentina gets an insane amount of penalties, half of them very disputable, France doesnt get penalty for an even more sensitive tackle, and everything happens when the World cup is being held in a corrupt country that has huge human rights issues. I wanted at least the final to be a clean win for Argentina....but the truth is, it isnt a clean win.
The Referee had his best performance
agreed, very good performance
There was no penalty on Di Maria. He falls *before* being touched. He makes it extremely hard on the ref to make the right non-call because he masters those situations.
He is clever in those situations that’s for sure. Check part 2 video I uploaded with some more detail on Di Maria’s foul
14 special cameras under the stadium, 4 sensor camera inside the ball scanning each 22 players 100 times per second can't see it, but you catch it on TV,congratulations my friend 😁😁😁😁
Instantly spotting that the Thuram situation was a set up from the frenchman, when the margins were so tight is absolutely outstanding - fantastic job by Marciniak.
Coming from an unbiased opinion as i personally didn't cheer for either team.(well my friend said Argentina win, i was more towards France) Watching on 100inch projector i would say that there was no controversial decisions. The rev team was class, we were really impressed by the quick correct decisions. Very by the book no bs judgment, didn't allow for players to simulate and it showed. He got respect for players. The only controversy is why did french couch decide to substitute Girou, dembele i get, as he had multiple bad situations but Girou... And just before half-time...
Yes ref had a very decisive performance and players respected him. Strange substitutions but it almost worked for France!
Same with Di Maria, he was being a headeache to french defence and was substituted at half time.
Yeah I wonder if Di Maria was not quite fit or had any issues; he was left out of the starting lineup for the previous game I believe.
@@PaulSpacey yeah, he said that he wasn't fit enough to play the whole game
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Impresionante actuación del árbitro. Cobró todo lo que tenía que cobrar justificadamente.
straight to the point, good video
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I want to know why max allisters handball in the area at minute 67 wasn’t called and reviewed by var?
didn't see this, can you send a video link?
On multiple occasions, the referee didnt let france play even tho they got the ball back right after an argentinian foul, and those occasions could have absolutely led to dangerous goal situations
Absolutely. That happens in most games but there were a couple of incidents the ref should have let the play continue in this game.
There was only one real incident like that, with Coman and Acuna, and the ref wasn't expecting Coman to get back up that quick, and had already blown the whistle and couldn't make it an advantage I think.
@@Tunde....Ballack that’s unfortunate, that might have prevented a goal and a total change in the game, also I remember this happening twice or thrice, we were at the bar and were so mad lol, very sad for France, especially since they went this far with a half substitutes team
@@Tunde....Ballack There was another when Coman got his shirt pulled but dribbled through it and made a good pass, so the ref let it go. There was also an incident where an ARG player played through a tactical foul and the ref stopped it.
@@Toruga23 Half substitute team is an exaggeration.
Kante is a miss,
Is Pogba really a miss? Especially without Kante there to counter-balance him.
Nkunku has been brilliant but won't have been a starter. He operates on the left wing (Mbappe), or the Number 10 (Which france don't really have, with Greizmann the closest to that), or CF (Giroud). Those are the positions he takes for Leipzig, and I've watched almost all his games.
Benzema, hear me out. Big Benz is wonderful, but he doesn't really work well for France, they used him all year and France haven't been very good. Benzema works well with Traditional wingers, but France do not use traditional wingers, and Mbappe, works best with Giroud, so I think using Giroud was a saving grace for France, he brought the best out of Mbappe and Greizmann, which would not really have happened with big Benz
Those were the main miss. Sad Hernandez got injured (Bayern fan here), but Lucas is a more defensive option to Theo, and Theo was wonderful all tournament.
Honestly I don't think France could have been better in the 11, they could have had a more stacked bench though
No one saw how a french player handballed the ball down to mbappe before the penalty. Please explain how the var cound have missed that, he had the hand raised way above his head
Yes his hand was above his head but it was raised just after the ball was deflected (couldn’t tell if it was off his head or the Argentina player). But French player didn’t handle it 😉
@@PaulSpacey no man, watch it again and you'll see. I've watched it in slow mo and it is a clear handball. No deflection.
@@iroccata You know there are more angles to watch this challenge from which clearly show that he never touched the ball, right? Not just that attention seeking tiktok from the corner flag.
great video
Cheers!
Great analysis.
Quick question, as you probably have better technology, you can surely recheck this.
When the corner previous to the second penalty awarded to France drops in the penalty area, isn't there a hand of the French player that jumps, giving the ball back to Mbappe whose shot hits Montiel's arm? ( The ball goes clearly above his head, and he extends the right arm, which seems to touch the ball, that drops suddenly at the feet of Mbappe).
If so, shouldn't the VAR have disallowed the penalty, and awarded a hand ball favorable to Argentina? ... and take away the yellow card to Montiel and give one to the French player? Player that had already been booked, hence should have been shown a red?
Thanks for the compliment but I have the same technology and replays as everyone else 👀
It’s unclear in the replays if Upamecano handled it. It looks like he headed it then raised his arm but I still can’t tell for sure. VAR check all buildups to goals but they can always miss something as we’ve seen previously!
Here is a video to show the header. instagram.com/reel/CmXTW-KgjyQ/?igshid=ZDFmNTE4Nzc=
What about the last minutes france counter attack that was stopped by the referee?
just a subjective decision by the ref. Should he have let it go? Yes, probably but this happens fairly often. Not sure it was a 'deliberate' ploy to stop France scoring.