At 12:46, 14-14, it's Kim's clearly attack in prep, right? I watched it three different times at normal speed and half speed, and it definitely looked that way to me. Wtf was this bout.
Kim gets shorted out of 3/4 points here as the ref feels the pressure. But why didn't he switch tactics? If the ref is not giving you the calls in the middle - take the fight OUT of the middle.
Was it just me or did Junho miss out on at least 3 touches? The ref kept calling both stop, both go, when it was clearly both hesitate and Junho takes over and gains a reprise.
That's not fair. Dumitrescu is usually super reliable and is one of my go-to refs for good, consistent tight 4m calls. It looks like he was having a bad day, and his video referee wasn't working effectively with him. There was also obviously significant pressure from the crowd and Italian coaching crew, including a former member of arbitrage, which I'm certain didn't help.
@@colinlefevre8138 Honestly the one I liked the least, besides the first touch at 14-14, was the "parry" to D'Armiento at 8/3. Looked like it was far too late to me, but then again I'm at home behind a keyboard rather than on the floor in front of a camera being screamed at by a bunch of Italians.
@@sydneysabrecentre Yeah, it was a bit sketchy. I feel like the lobbying had to have had a serious effect. Refs at this level are usually quite reliable and impartial, but anyone will be swayed by a bunch of loud, angry Italians.
@@ehehehehehehehehehe543 D'Armiento was fencing quite well, to be fair, but had the refereeing being equally good, he would have lost at something around 15-10. The referee kept calling Kim's takeovers simultaneous. After 3+ of your touches aren't counted, you start to get demoralized. A lot of pressure is on the referee, obviously, especially with the Italian's home crowd cheering him on, but still...Kim got royally screwed and deserved the win.
@@sydneysabrecentre To be fair, he was a great fencer in his own right - I was surprised he stopped after London 2012... though you could see the doubt creeping in when he turned towards the camera a few times... even if he called it all the same, but was controlling the piste better then he would have kept the confidence of the fencers and the audience. I can imagine that for his level of refereeing experience in an Italian comp with a partisan crowd that there would be some difficult calls to make.
At 12:46, 14-14, it's Kim's clearly attack in prep, right? I watched it three different times at normal speed and half speed, and it definitely looked that way to me. Wtf was this bout.
Look, I thought so. But I'm sitting happily at home behind a keyboard, not out on the floor with an angry mob yelling at me.
Sydney Sabre that’s not a good excuse for a top tier referee at a World Cup or Grand Prix
Kim gets shorted out of 3/4 points here as the ref feels the pressure. But why didn't he switch tactics? If the ref is not giving you the calls in the middle - take the fight OUT of the middle.
How about the bit where Kim loses almost 10 points trying to set up fall-short? That boy's not good at going backwards.
@@sydneysabrecentre Fair point. He might just have tried a bigger in-out action. Anyway, who am I judge these guys?
@@iainmcclure416 what even is the point of sport without armchair quarterbacking though?
Damn, that opening point :O
heck
14-14 Kim's attack in prep called simul reeeeeeeeee
one of the worst referee in the world
Was it just me or did Junho miss out on at least 3 touches? The ref kept calling both stop, both go, when it was clearly both hesitate and Junho takes over and gains a reprise.
That's not fair. Dumitrescu is usually super reliable and is one of my go-to refs for good, consistent tight 4m calls. It looks like he was having a bad day, and his video referee wasn't working effectively with him. There was also obviously significant pressure from the crowd and Italian coaching crew, including a former member of arbitrage, which I'm certain didn't help.
@@colinlefevre8138 Honestly the one I liked the least, besides the first touch at 14-14, was the "parry" to D'Armiento at 8/3. Looked like it was far too late to me, but then again I'm at home behind a keyboard rather than on the floor in front of a camera being screamed at by a bunch of Italians.
@@sydneysabrecentre Yeah, it was a bit sketchy. I feel like the lobbying had to have had a serious effect. Refs at this level are usually quite reliable and impartial, but anyone will be swayed by a bunch of loud, angry Italians.
@@stupio1124 The fact that D'Armiento's coach is Marco Siesto probably didn't help matters.
Random, unrelated question - are they using the podium piste as the normal blue piste?
Was the referee Dumitrescu? I'm pretty sure it was. I never thought he will become referee.
At 11:25, why did D'Armiento get yellow card?
Early start.
Rip KIM juno
RIP. OMG.
What a bad ref
poor kim....1vs2
why all the dislikes it was a great battle
People heavily disagree with the ref, taking it out on @SydneySabre
@@brownzangief oh well
@@ehehehehehehehehehe543 D'Armiento was fencing quite well, to be fair, but had the refereeing being equally good, he would have lost at something around 15-10. The referee kept calling Kim's takeovers simultaneous. After 3+ of your touches aren't counted, you start to get demoralized. A lot of pressure is on the referee, obviously, especially with the Italian's home crowd cheering him on, but still...Kim got royally screwed and deserved the win.
@@colinlefevre8138 true
@@brownzangief Shoot the messenger!
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stop taking it out on the ref
Referee go home please blind!
Awful referee. Incompetent or biased.
He's usually excellent. I'm not sure what happened here.
I suspect he was scared. It's a rough situation to be in, and he's still quite a junior ref.
@@sydneysabrecentre To be fair, he was a great fencer in his own right - I was surprised he stopped after London 2012... though you could see the doubt creeping in when he turned towards the camera a few times... even if he called it all the same, but was controlling the piste better then he would have kept the confidence of the fencers and the audience. I can imagine that for his level of refereeing experience in an Italian comp with a partisan crowd that there would be some difficult calls to make.