LOST on the Great Lakes: The Sinking of the Daniel J. Morrell

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  • @robertschildt306
    @robertschildt306 2 роки тому +433

    I met Dennis at a library in new london ohio where he had talked about his experience and he was such a very kind person as he showed a video of the morrell he made it a point to sit next to me and talk to me it was like I made an instant friend , and I did , I wanted to get a hold of him later on but as I learned about his passing it was very hard for me to except it but he is with his ship mates now God rest his soul

    • @StunningHistory
      @StunningHistory  2 роки тому +53

      Hi Robert, it’s so nice that you had the opportunity to meet Dennis. Thank you for sharing your story about him and for watching my video. It was a privilege getting to learn more about him and his time on the Morrell. - Sam

    • @97marqedman
      @97marqedman 2 роки тому +22

      I met him after a talk he gave at the Maritime Museum in Canal Park (Duluth, MN). He and many other folks walked the length of the ship canal pier afterwards, looking out at the lake, almost haunting in a way to watch. After that he gave a few brief comments to a local news crew that was at the museum for his talk. He seemed like a very nice man indeed.

    • @yallneedjesus5465
      @yallneedjesus5465 2 роки тому +9

      What's the most sad is how fucked up it left him for decades after.

    • @donnakawana
      @donnakawana 2 роки тому +12

      @@yallneedjesus5465 That's called trauma an survivor's guilt... None of which is fun to deal with.... An as death is final so is trauma. An you have flash backs. An you hear their voices, you see their faces..? So it never goes away... Ever ....It's part of you always.... Rest in paradise Sir

    • @thomasbulmer2593
      @thomasbulmer2593 2 роки тому +1

      What is the name of the book

  • @richardjohnson2965
    @richardjohnson2965 Рік тому +15

    My dad sailed the lakes in a ship just this in the ‘40s and early 50s. He was the chief steward on the Richard J Reiss, and the Uhrig.
    He would tell stories about those early winter storms and how scary they were. We lived in Duluth, Mn. at the time. As kids, we would watch the horizon from our house on the hill, looking for the smoke coming from the stacks of inbound boats..wondering if it was dads ship coming to port. Dad would be gone for months at a time..and coming to home port was a big event. Exciting days.

  • @jima28080
    @jima28080 2 роки тому +76

    I was stationed at the USAF radar station in Port Austin when the Morrell went down. When the news reached us that the ship was presumed lost, a group of us searched along that frigid coastline for any signs of survivors. We found nothing of course. The terrible weather and waves made it incredible that Mr. Hale somehow survived.

  • @SunnyChaplin
    @SunnyChaplin 2 роки тому +24

    I also met Dennis Hale and I echo everything the viewer said about him. He was an amazing man and I feel privileged to have met him at the grand opening of the Great Lakes Maritime Museum here in Toledo. Sadly he is passed away now. RIP Mr. Hale.

  • @ianbrewer247
    @ianbrewer247 2 роки тому +188

    Glad to see that you are mentioning the Morrell, like the Carl Bradley these ships are in the shadows of the Fitzgerald not saying that the Fitzgerald isn't tragic but the Morrell and the Bradley are all but forgetton and the Fitzgerald is a legend you do their memories well, I hope that you do more of these videos

    • @leoborn4013
      @leoborn4013 2 роки тому +15

      Every single one of them broke apart. Should have been a very clear hint of a really bad design when weather got bad.

    • @joeruiz4010
      @joeruiz4010 2 роки тому +6

      @@leoborn4013 All 3 needed maintenance and hull repairs. Bethlehem Steel Corporation did a report in the Sister Ship of the Edmund Fitzgerald, that being the Arthur B. Homer. That ship was lengthened in December of 1975, but had so many years of neglect beforehand, that Bethlehem Steel Corporation decided to retire the ship in 1980 and scrap it.

    • @HoshizakiYoshimasa
      @HoshizakiYoshimasa 3 місяці тому

      The Cedarville too. It sank near mackinaw island after getting rammed by another ship in dense fog in the 1960s

  • @TommyFlanagan666
    @TommyFlanagan666 Рік тому +3

    The best short form video I’ve seen on the Morrell. Well done and thank you!

  • @44pacino90
    @44pacino90 Рік тому +4

    It takes a special kind of human being to survive something like this physically and mentally it kinda makes the everyday problems we face not so unmanageable I pray we can all muster this kind of strength in our time of need.

  • @timothystevens4840
    @timothystevens4840 2 роки тому +57

    I dove on Danial J Morrell (both the bow and the stern) in the late 70s, when it was like night even in the daylight, and there were no zebra mussels. The visibility in the unwater footage is unreal. Great video.

    • @sonnyspawn4435
      @sonnyspawn4435 2 роки тому +4

      So the zebra mussels are filtering the water is what your saying

    • @daviddunsmore103
      @daviddunsmore103 2 роки тому +13

      @@sonnyspawn4435 Yeah, the zebra mussels have cleared the water up immensely for SCUBA divers, but while wreaking havoc on the ecosystems of the Great Lakes.

    • @michaelbechtel4944
      @michaelbechtel4944 2 роки тому +1

      Would love to see that, I'll bet it's cool.

  • @freddieellis8449
    @freddieellis8449 2 роки тому +15

    Shipwreck footage is always so eerie! It’s fascinating and sad in equal measures

  • @icalexander
    @icalexander 2 роки тому +79

    May The Men of the Morell and all who have perished on the lakes rest in peace. It's stories like this that make me frightened for my mother's safety, she's a second cook on the CSL Spruceglen. Obviously safety standards etc have improved greatly but in the end sailing the great lakes is still a risky endeavor. I hope I never have to hear that the Spruceglen is gone with all hands.

    • @mrlaw711
      @mrlaw711 2 роки тому +4

      Thanks for sharing. Hope your mother has many good years - be at sea, home, or on land.

    • @mortalclown3812
      @mortalclown3812 2 роки тому +3

      Well, fwiw, ships built after the DJM used uncompromised steel, plus safety standards are a thousand times what they were. That's only a start in the improved circumstances, too.
      Perhaps counting the number of successful hauls will help instead of thinking about wrecks a lifetime ago. Godspeed to your Mom and her ship.

  • @RailroadStreet
    @RailroadStreet 2 роки тому +27

    Excellent video! This was a great tribute to the 29 men who lost their lives on the Morrell, and Dennis Hale the lone survivor.

  • @kay_sou
    @kay_sou 2 роки тому +49

    A relative of mine was the driver of the ambulance who took Dennis Hale to the hospital, and apparently became friends with him for the rest of his life. He also owned the funeral home in town that the FBI made their home base while they identified the crew who had passed away. He's the one facing the camera, smiling in the photo at 9:54, the middle of the three men standing in the back. Wish I could've heard the stories from him directly, but I never met him before he died, so I've had to hear from other family members instead.

    • @ericparrish1515
      @ericparrish1515 2 роки тому

      Yeah I bet that was me Jack. Who's doing the twist still? I think you are blinding something.

  • @GelBijou
    @GelBijou 2 роки тому +17

    Dennis Hale had a book out before Shipwrecked. It's called Sole Survivor. His story was translated to the page by Pat and Jim Stayer. My dad had a copy given to him by them. I read it as a kid. Book's worth quite a lot now. Always wanted to meet Dennis like Dad had. Never got to.
    Edit:
    Planning a video now in honor of the men on the Morrell and ship herself. I see we have many of the same sources.
    My dad has helped me with the researching, a lot, and it led to a really freaky experience on his part.
    I sent him the timeline I've been working on, and he started telling his first mate all about it. Well, when he finished the story, he and his first mate turned around and standing in the doorway of the cabin was a man in a Daniel J. Morrell shirt. He said chills went up his spine. Turned out to be Dennis Hale's son-in-law. He said it was sad how the world has slowly forgotten the Morrell more and more every year. The coincidence of the whole meeting makes you wonder if Dennis played a part. Makes me feel like I have to keep going, on the off chance that this is what the crew want... everlasting memory. It has led to a whole new avenue for my research as well, having the ability to make contact with at least one of the families.
    My hope is to finish by the 28th of Nov. And have it premiere at the time of the sinking. However, I'm trying to collect information about the men on board so they can be remembered properly and I'm having some trouble with it.
    EDIT: Video is still in the works, but there is a LOT of information to go over here. It will be delayed.

    • @Mandy7D7
      @Mandy7D7 2 роки тому +1

      I subbed and I'm looking forward to your video when you upload. 👍🏻

  • @hughjass1044
    @hughjass1044 2 роки тому +32

    Great video! You don't do a lot of them but the ones you do are fantastic! This is my favorite ship channel.

    • @StunningHistory
      @StunningHistory  2 роки тому +4

      Thank you for the words of support! - Sam

    • @Vladoz11
      @Vladoz11 2 роки тому +2

      *Great video and great channel!!*

  • @mrlaw711
    @mrlaw711 2 роки тому +14

    Hale was a smart man. Seemed like he was also a very decent and kind man. He was fortunate, and too bad much of the tragedy haunted him as it did.

    • @andrewnorris1514
      @andrewnorris1514 2 роки тому +2

      Dennis Hale was a whale of a man. I knew his story for years before his passing but was never able to see any of his appearances. Sorry I never got to meet him. R I P

  • @yukonjack.
    @yukonjack. 2 роки тому +6

    Sad hearing his last words break up as he said I'm glad of the time we spent together. I know the feeling,
    I just lost my father the other day.

  • @jamesanderson3160
    @jamesanderson3160 2 роки тому +14

    One of my favorite ship channels on this platform! Thanks for the amazing content you put out brother! Can’t wait to see what you have for us next time!

  • @benoosha4947
    @benoosha4947 2 роки тому +95

    Great video. Strange how this disaster is relatively unknown and yet equally as awful as the Edmund Fitzgerald. Rather like the Titanic when compared to the Wilhelm Gustloff which may have resulted in 6 times or more as many casualties.

    • @koolaidblack7697
      @koolaidblack7697 2 роки тому +12

      The difference is the titanic was sunk by an iceberg, and not allied governments who had a vested interest in keeping up their own PR image.

    • @chairlesnicol672
      @chairlesnicol672 2 роки тому +12

      The reason that hardly anybody never heard of the morells n others is cuz they weren't sung about by Gordon lightfoot!!

    • @TheRelativy
      @TheRelativy 2 роки тому +7

      It is diffcult to remember every disaster. There are simply too many of them. About Gustloff, it was actually a troop transport, running dark that happend to have civilians on board and was sunk by enemy during war time. Formore nobody never knew how many souls were onboard.

    • @jaklawrence4301
      @jaklawrence4301 2 роки тому +3

      @@koolaidblack7697 I can't actually find any good information on whether the western allies even found out about the sinking officially (rather than via agents/intelligence). If they did know about it, they deliberately kept it quiet. The chap captaining the Soviet sub was later dishonourably discharged, but for being a drunkard rather than for mass murder of enemy civilians.

    • @B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont
      @B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont 2 роки тому +7

      @@chairlesnicol672 Very true. Other than perhaps a blurb on the national news, few outside of the Great Lakes community knew about the Fitzgerald until after the song was released. Indeed, when it first hit the "Hot 100" in mid-November 1976 probably not two people in ten knew the song was about a real lake boat.

  • @MisterDeSoto
    @MisterDeSoto 2 роки тому +9

    Dwight Boyer wrote extensively about the sinking of the Daniel J. Morrell. If I remember correctly both the Townsend and Morrell failed to arrive at the Soo Locks and were reported overdue/missing. The battered Townsend was found at anchor in the St. Mary's river with her wireless antenna ripped off by the storm (unable to radio in).

  • @robertrockwell7581
    @robertrockwell7581 2 роки тому +4

    God bless Dennis and all his ship mates.

    • @imvandenh
      @imvandenh Рік тому

      Seeing how they lost their lives when the ship went down, I'd say that's the opposite of being blessed. Little late for blessings once you're dead. Dennis was blessed with surviving the wreck and more years of life perhaps but the rest of them were doomed, not blessed.

  • @loricharpentier1654
    @loricharpentier1654 Рік тому +3

    Boy, November sounds like a bad time to be out on the Lakes. Sad what happened to the Daniel J Morrell. 😔

  • @falcondragonslayer
    @falcondragonslayer 2 роки тому +26

    Ships are supposed to have inspections and repair done during winter layup. The company neglected the Morrel, likely because it was an old ship, but the cost of human lives wasn’t worth what it would take to repair the vessel or the loss in income caused by decommissioning the ship.

    • @tatwood93
      @tatwood93 2 роки тому +5

      "We're never in port long enough" said by an old man who's already lived a full life, and the situation ends in young men with their futures ahead of them drowning and freezing to death. Makes me angry honestly. It's always people with hardly anything at stake who cause situations like this.

    • @falcondragonslayer
      @falcondragonslayer 2 роки тому +6

      @@tatwood93 you can’t get mad at the captain. He doesn’t arrange the shipping schedules, and he likely knew just how dangerous having a leaky ship was, but he couldn’t do anything about it. It is infuriating that a company would neglect a ship this much though

    • @tatwood93
      @tatwood93 2 роки тому +1

      @@falcondragonslayer The captain passed the buck.

    • @falcondragonslayer
      @falcondragonslayer 2 роки тому +1

      @@tatwood93 no clue what that means

    • @tatwood93
      @tatwood93 2 роки тому +3

      ​@@falcondragonslayer Would you drive a bus full of people if you knew the brake lines were leaking? I would rather get fired.

  • @kimmorrill7060
    @kimmorrill7060 Рік тому +1

    Im related to Daniel J. Morrell..never knew this until i started looking into my family history. My 4th or 5th gen grandfather changed the E to an I for reasons unknown. Sad and tragic.

  • @warmachine5835
    @warmachine5835 2 роки тому +9

    It seems faint in the light of Hale's survivor's guilt, but his survival probably saved the lives of future crewmen who would have otherwise sailed on the Townsend. Had the investigation slowed, the Townsend may have continued to make trips, and instead of splitting while being towed, another crew could have experienced the Morrell's fate. That act of survival probably saved another 28 people.

  • @Bob-te3le
    @Bob-te3le 4 місяці тому +1

    I love the Great Lakes. They look like inland seas. RIP 🙏

  • @jehb8945
    @jehb8945 2 роки тому +7

    The last scene in this video with the open door on the stern is perfect that door was flung open and every member of the crew that could flew out of that door in a desperate attempt to escape

  • @edwardpate6128
    @edwardpate6128 Рік тому +4

    The sister ship of the Morrel, the Edward Y Townsend, was found to have major cracking after that same storm. She was sold for scrap and on the way to being towed to Europe for scrapping she broke in two just like her sister and sank, just a stones throw from the wreck of the Titanic.

  • @rc4lifebnsf
    @rc4lifebnsf 11 місяців тому +2

    Pretty crazy the stern was still going after being torn in half. Engines still going and didn’t sink like a rock from it being torn in half. Very impressive

  • @difreighterwatcher8603
    @difreighterwatcher8603 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you for doing this, a tragedy so often overlooked.

  • @Ro6entX
    @Ro6entX 2 роки тому +24

    Poor guy had survivor’s guilt but at least he lived his life to the fullest in honor of his lost crew mates. Also he potentially saved many lives by pointing the investigators in right direction that the steel being used was too brittle. I think this tragedy was really overshadowed by the Fritz because the latter of the two had no survivors and cause was unknown.

    • @elim7228
      @elim7228 Рік тому +4

      The cause is well known: pushing the ships too late in the season. They both went down due to bad weather on the Lakes.

    • @deadbrother5355
      @deadbrother5355 Рік тому +1

      It breaks my heart to hear him describe the loss and loneliness. The fact that he pushed through it and lived a good life should stand as inspiration for anyone who has peered into the darkness of the abyss of depression, and felt it peering into their soul.
      I remember the fallen, and they think of me, for our souls in the ocean forever will be.
      -the longest johns

    • @andynieuwenhuis7833
      @andynieuwenhuis7833 Рік тому

      ​@@elim7228 The other problem was, The Ship WAS ALWAYS OVER LOADED. Some of the crew members Also complained ABOUT STRESS CRACKS, at different load points in the Ship's hull.

  • @vernongrant3596
    @vernongrant3596 2 роки тому +2

    I had never heard of this ship until today. Guess you need a song written about like the Mighty Fitz to be famous. Thank you very much for bringing this tragic story to my attention. Amazing.

  • @corymcgrath5652
    @corymcgrath5652 2 роки тому +4

    You just earned a subscription, well done. I never heard of this disaster until now.

  • @Blaklege63
    @Blaklege63 2 роки тому +4

    Amazing story. Survivors Remorse is a tough deal

  • @Figulus
    @Figulus 2 роки тому +2

    I'm glad to see you back making videos!
    Thank you -- as always it was great to watch.

  • @michaelmusico383
    @michaelmusico383 2 роки тому +3

    Such a sad story. RIP shipmates of the Daniel J. Morrell.

  • @karlsmith2570
    @karlsmith2570 Рік тому +4

    I honestly couldn't imagine how Psychologically traumatizing that experience had to have been for Dennis Hale
    It's no wonder that he was so reluctant to talk about the experience at first

  • @tractorjunkco9431
    @tractorjunkco9431 2 роки тому +10

    Incredible. One of the Bethlehem steel mine buildings are only a few miles from my house here in PA. I also had a grandfather who worked for the company back in the mid 60s but I never knew any of this.

  • @alanwood5857
    @alanwood5857 2 роки тому +1

    Very well done, I remember the Edmund Fitzgerald sinking when I was 11

  • @metalted6128
    @metalted6128 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, thank you!!

  • @scottjackson5173
    @scottjackson5173 2 роки тому +21

    What's so surprising about this story is the age of the ship. Very few ocean going ships last more than 40 years in service. What is even more amazing is the apparent lack of safety inspections.
    Granted is the simple fact that fresh water is less corrosive than sea water. That doesn't eliminate the need for seaworthyness inspections. Especially after 40, or more years of service.

    • @anareel4562
      @anareel4562 2 роки тому +1

      There's still 100+ year old lake freighters afloat, mostly as storage vessels but I think a few are still working

    • @scottjackson5173
      @scottjackson5173 2 роки тому +2

      @@anareel4562 Interesting! I do hope that they've seen some recent dry dock time. Anyway where do you get parts for 50+ year old thriple expansion steam engines

    • @anareel4562
      @anareel4562 2 роки тому +1

      @@scottjackson5173 as for how they maintain such old technology my guess is they have blacksmiths and craftsman on payroll, also most of them had their propulsion switched over to diesel engines or steam turbines. SS Alpena was built in 1942 and is still in service, there's also a 107 year old lake freighter that's been converted into a self unloading barge.
      Algorithm deleted my last comment due to links lol

    • @scottjackson5173
      @scottjackson5173 2 роки тому

      @@anareel4562 It's too bad, I live so far away. One day funds permitting, I would like to see some of these old ships.

    • @anareel4562
      @anareel4562 2 роки тому

      @@scottjackson5173 actually turns out Trillium (a side paddle steam ferry) is still in use in my home town of Toronto between Downtown and the Island, she's 111 years old

  • @knickd1979
    @knickd1979 2 роки тому +4

    I can watch "Sinking Ships" videos ALL DAY LOOOOONG! something about these stories captivates me. and the footage of the ships lying upright at the bottom of the Great Lakes is haunting, fascinating, & beautiful.
    BUT
    time to get back to work! shutdown the youtube Nick, you have a family to support!!!

  • @jaxsun72
    @jaxsun72 2 роки тому +2

    This was an amazing story that I never actually heard of before.

  • @ChilliCheezdog
    @ChilliCheezdog 2 роки тому +1

    This is a very beautiful and respectful film.

  • @forddriver8827
    @forddriver8827 2 роки тому +3

    Life can be harsh, even cruel but we learn nothing if we do not keep moving forward, learning from our past. RIP all who perished.

  • @indridcold8433
    @indridcold8433 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you, tremendously, for including metric measurements in this very enlightening video.

  • @fhwolthuis
    @fhwolthuis 2 роки тому +2

    Amazing story and a great video! Thank you very much 👍👍

  • @SirCap
    @SirCap 2 роки тому +3

    These are so well made. I hope your videos get more traction

  • @travislogerwell2675
    @travislogerwell2675 2 роки тому +3

    I think it’s a special reason that Dennis survived with out him we would never would have now’n what happened or what led up to the loss of the ship.

  • @chandler224
    @chandler224 2 роки тому +3

    Great documentary. I remember reading that Dennis most likely survived due to wearing no clothes, as wet clothing would only increase the speed of hypothermia. Can't imagine that kind of weather and cold.

  • @donbufke6305
    @donbufke6305 2 роки тому +1

    Dude that was beautiful

  • @nicholasdiehl7368
    @nicholasdiehl7368 2 роки тому +3

    God bless him and his crew they fought hard but he kept his mind on his life and his friends

  • @jasonshull3106
    @jasonshull3106 2 роки тому +2

    Long time no see, thanks for your new video.JDS in AZ usa. Also 1st

  • @dadadadave100
    @dadadadave100 Рік тому +2

    The other sinkings of the Great Lakes need to be told and recognized

  • @mattskustomkreations
    @mattskustomkreations 2 роки тому +3

    At 7:05 that’s a cool painting but the life raft was not a rubber life raft as pictured here, and what most us typically picture a life raft to be. The life raft was a slatted steel or wood “tray” on top of 2 cylindrical steel pontoons. Edit: they show the actual raft in the pic of the helicopter rescue.

  • @Tek_777
    @Tek_777 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you so much for making this! I love Great Lake carrier stories and this one is truly fascinating! You just got a new sub here :)

    • @StunningHistory
      @StunningHistory  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you for supporting! I’m happy you enjoyed it. - Sam

  • @RobJaskula
    @RobJaskula 2 роки тому +1

    Great work algorithm! Fantastic video, what a story of survival.

  • @lizdrouin1104
    @lizdrouin1104 Рік тому

    Excellent video...very informative...well presented....great job....

  • @frankherman1377
    @frankherman1377 2 роки тому +3

    Great video thank you for sharing this amazing story seriously a great job! I immediately subscribed to your channel in order to not miss any future videos :)

  • @hollandgilstrap24
    @hollandgilstrap24 2 роки тому +1

    Great job on this one, always been curious about the Morrell.

  • @gretchenlittle6817
    @gretchenlittle6817 2 роки тому +15

    Very interesting video! Ironic that an older ship made of lesser-grade steel carried ore for a steel company.

  • @dieseldavetrains8988
    @dieseldavetrains8988 2 роки тому +8

    The American Bureau of Shipping certification of at least one annual inspection should have picked up on the fact the vessel was leaking and the steel in deterioration? Why was nothing done? Why were the numerous Captains scared of reporting the defects to the company? Also the ship is a "bulk carrier" and not a freighter. Not forgetting the seafarers union delegates on board, why did they keep working the vessel? Great video.

    • @RobJaskula
      @RobJaskula 2 роки тому +3

      Right?! I can only imagine how endemic the problem must have been that ships in such a poor state of repair kept literally breaking apart without it being a giant scandal. I wonder what percent of the bulk carriers were actually seaworthy back then.

    • @484berkshire
      @484berkshire 2 роки тому +3

      A bulk carrier isn't a freighter? That's like saying a container train is an "intermodal" and not a "freight train". They both refer to the same thing with different degrees of specificity.
      But to answer your questions, companies don't care about safety until laws require them to. Plenty of ships built when the Morrell was built were lost due to storms in the decades before the Morrell sank. The risk was acceptable at the time, and it was probably less expensive to lose a ship as old as the Morrell due to sinking than it was to substantially upgrade it or build a newer one when this older one was still operational. After the Fitzgerald was when shipping culture changed and inspection and safety standards were improved, and ships on the lakes will find shelter whether than venture out into open water when a storm is forecast.

    • @dieseldavetrains8988
      @dieseldavetrains8988 2 роки тому +1

      @@484berkshire In Australia a Bulk Carrier carries bulk commodities and more often than not does not have derricks or deck cranes and has strengthened hatches to handle ore. A freighter usually has a "between deck" and has derricks or deck cranes and provision for refrigerated cargo. A Containership is just that, handles 20 foot and 40 foot container exclusively. That's how it was when I was a ships Radio Officer in the merchant navy many years back.

    • @484berkshire
      @484berkshire 2 роки тому +1

      @@dieseldavetrains8988 Ok, so it boils down to different dialects then. In the US (as far as I know), a freighter is any ship that moves goods as its primary function. Bulk carriers and container ships all fit under "freighter".

    • @dustywelchcraneman6614
      @dustywelchcraneman6614 2 роки тому

      Must not be on the ground floor of any type of industrial work. The captains most likely did report the issues. But upper management only saw, that ship not moving meant not making money. Back then these types of accidents were not looked at as deeply as they are today. Sure when they happened they looked into it, but eventually they were paid off by big business and everything went away. Looking into it, coal mines, steel Mills, freight companies, all of them had massive accidents and they were all hardly looked into and even if they were nothing much ever came of it. That's why today companies have such tight ships to run so to speak, as lawyers and government agencies get involved and things start to happen. Chances are this guy once he was out of the hospital, the company came and said "man we're awful glad you are alive, sorry about your shipmates, hey see ya Monday ol buddy" and life went on, as what happened with alot of incidents. Companies see the outgoing money closer than they see the incoming money, they never seem to make the connection that repairs to the lifeblood of the company is a drop in the bucket when these accidents happen.

  • @stevenbrennan9711
    @stevenbrennan9711 2 роки тому +1

    Another fantastic video!

  • @rogerp6903
    @rogerp6903 2 роки тому

    Excellent narration and detail,thanks very much for posting

  • @johncredico5689
    @johncredico5689 Рік тому +2

    That was in 1966. The laws have changed. I'm under the impression that all commercial ships registered or operated in US waters have to have hull inspections every 6 months to 3 years depending on type. Are there any Coast Guard out there that can give us the lowdown?

  • @jacklandaupresents
    @jacklandaupresents 2 роки тому +1

    I just found this channel, love it!

  • @charlesbohman6159
    @charlesbohman6159 2 роки тому +2

    I live 1.5 miles from Lake Michigan in Port Washington WI. I tell my daughter that we don't need to go to the ocean , we have one it our back yard. It's quite eery to look out at the lake and think of all the ships that seen their demise. Beautiful place though.

  • @hisoverlorduponhigh90
    @hisoverlorduponhigh90 2 роки тому +1

    I grew up on the shore of Lake Michigan, in Long Beach Indiana. When that lake gets angry, look out. My Dad had his career with Bethlehem Steel. He started at Sparrows Point (Baltimore), and transferred to Burns Harbor Indiana.

  • @karenkimball6634
    @karenkimball6634 2 роки тому +2

    So interesting, thanks!

  • @madgary5827
    @madgary5827 2 роки тому

    Excellent. Thank you and like 🙂

  • @zew1414
    @zew1414 2 роки тому +1

    Just found your channel and I am impressed! Well researched, written and narrated.y new fav ship channel! ✌️

    • @StunningHistory
      @StunningHistory  2 роки тому +2

      Welcome aboard! - Sam

    • @zew1414
      @zew1414 2 роки тому +1

      @@StunningHistory I noticed that you probably have a full time job and maybe don't have the time to post regularly but I wish you all the best with the channel and I know a lot of us out here will say the same! Cheers mate 🥂 can't wait til your next video.

  • @natemofield281
    @natemofield281 2 роки тому +3

    I wonder if Mr Hale was ever able to go back out on the water ever again? I hope so, the men who work out there are a different breed.

    • @StunningHistory
      @StunningHistory  2 роки тому +7

      Not for many years and never again professionally, to my knowledge. I believe I saw where he boarded a research vessel as part of filming the documentary.

  • @oatsroasted6759
    @oatsroasted6759 2 роки тому +4

    He's right about the men and himself our family after that many years together. I work for a company almost two decades. There's men hired couple years before and after I was hired. We were there for each other through the good or bad. Marriage, having kids or some passed away. Were family all them years until the company shut down. Over time we slowly when our own separate ways. But I have a lot of fun stories to tell others about this group of men I worked with.

  • @MattDono29
    @MattDono29 2 роки тому +1

    Pls keep making these man 👌

  • @davemilligan1171
    @davemilligan1171 2 роки тому +1

    Just found your channel, going to watch all your vids, will give ya a like. Have a good day Sam.

  • @mustangmike4078
    @mustangmike4078 2 роки тому +2

    I believe the photos of the ship breaking up at about 2 min mark are of the Morrell's sister ship the Townsend as it broke up while being towed across the Atlantic for scrapping.

  • @moemanncann895
    @moemanncann895 Рік тому +1

    "You don't really care if you live or die, you just want it over with". Just wow😮

  • @frankmiller95
    @frankmiller95 Рік тому +1

    These situations have been happening ever since the first person went somewhere in a boat, captains who overestimated the seakeeping abilities of their vessels or underestimated the power of water disturbed by wind. Give the propensities of human nature, there's no reason to believe that will ever change.

  • @lilitharam44
    @lilitharam44 2 роки тому +5

    Being from Memphis (used to seeing river boats), I'm confused by the configuration of these ships. Are they in two separate or independent parts, front and back, with the middle being cargo? How can it break in two and both parts keep going for a bit? I've always been fascinated by the Great Lakes ships! Thanks so much for the info, love your channel! Have you heard of Memphis's maritime disaster, the Wreck of the Sultana? Thanks!

    • @fuzzy_deppresion3907
      @fuzzy_deppresion3907 2 роки тому +3

      I’m from northern Wisconsin and have spent a lot of time by the Great Lakes and heard these story’s since I was a kid, it’s really just weak construction of the ships and the extreme storms the lakes get, the lakes regularly see 22 foot waves during storm season, the boats over years get beat to death and in this case the lack of maintenance caused the boat to literally get ripped in half. They are built just like cargo ships for the ocean.

    • @lilitharam44
      @lilitharam44 2 роки тому +2

      @@fuzzy_deppresion3907 Ohhh, okay Thanks! They look like they could be made in two separate halves with the funnel on one end and the wheelhouse on the other. Very neat ships I love to hear stories about the Great Lakes, beautiful part of the country!

    • @tatwood93
      @tatwood93 2 роки тому +2

      @@lilitharam44 I'd imagine it's like floating on a giant aluminum cake pan, probably massive amounts of flex especially when dropping thousands of tons of ore into it from 100ft up then crashing thru 20ft waves. Not to mention the shallow waters of the Great Lakes when compared to oceans. Very creepy that the wheelhouse was broken off and the engines kept going, it's like a modern version of the headless horseman

    • @kyledavis4890
      @kyledavis4890 2 роки тому +3

      The other thing to note, cargo freighters that belong to the great lakes (Lakers) are bigger than the ocean going counterparts you will see in the great lakes (Salties.) Why is this so? It's because the really big ocean going vessels are too big for the locks.

    • @lilitharam44
      @lilitharam44 2 роки тому +1

      @@kyledavis4890 Cool to know that, thanks!

  • @bobpapp9538
    @bobpapp9538 7 місяців тому +1

    Mr Hale passed rest in peace with your brothers.

  • @csnide6702
    @csnide6702 2 роки тому

    WOW !.....sole survivor....... what a story

  • @dylanpeterson6192
    @dylanpeterson6192 2 роки тому

    That picture with the Huletts unloaders is pretty interesting.

  • @slyjones33
    @slyjones33 2 роки тому +1

    I can't even imagine 😢

  • @MrModernKetchup
    @MrModernKetchup 2 роки тому +2

    My family has got a place near harbor beach, thats crazy to hear about. I'll have to see if I can ask anybody local or find something in the museums. Lot of history that goes forgotten there

  • @jeffgibson184
    @jeffgibson184 2 роки тому +1

    Sad but good video

  • @garylefevers
    @garylefevers 9 місяців тому

    I think it is sad that he felt shame about his near death experience. I have had a couple myself obviously different circumstances. I found it very comforting afterwards. Knowing that there is definitely more to this life and afterlife than we can post hope to understand in the flesh. At least times have changed. That poor man suffered in silence for years but due to his bravery people after him

  • @iwaswrongabouteveryhthing
    @iwaswrongabouteveryhthing 2 роки тому +2

    rest in peace homie, I hope you had your reunion with your mates

  • @dannyloiland8609
    @dannyloiland8609 Рік тому +1

    I met him at the great lakes shipwreck museum

  • @howtosober
    @howtosober Рік тому +1

    One statement at the beginning isn't necessarily accurate. The Edmund Fitzgerald didn't break on the surface, and breaking isn't what caused it to sink. Among the many theories of running aground, rogue waves, and cargo hold flooding, break-then-sink isn't one. On another topic, are there any cargo ships that sank carrying bauxite, due to liquefaction? I saw something about how bauxite is the among the most dangerous cargo because it sinks ships in minutes. Haven't heard of any specific wrecks carrying those loads, however.

  • @Dannyedelman4231
    @Dannyedelman4231 Рік тому +1

    My uncle was a cook on the USCGC Naugatuck the night the Fitzgerald went down and the captain ordered the engines to make steam and get out to the last known position but for some reason one of the pumps for the engine failed multiple times and they made it about 2 days after the sinking

  • @happydays8171
    @happydays8171 2 роки тому

    Ernest McSorely, Captain of the Edmond Fitzgerald needs honorable mention since The Edmond is mentioned so many times in this story. Ernest was retiring after his fatal trip, he had 2 records, at 19 he was the youngest Captain to navigate a freighter across the Great Lakes, and then held the record for taking the greatest amount of tonnage through the Sioux St Marie locks. The Edmond was inspected a month before sinking, they found 4 areas of repair needed when the ship went into dry dock, none that made it unseaworthy though.

  • @gilletteobette535
    @gilletteobette535 2 роки тому +3

    The titanic steel was for the time optimal quality. Of course in our time it would be considered low quality. Aside from that small thing I loved the video.

    • @StunningHistory
      @StunningHistory  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks Gillette! I added some additional thoughts on that in a pinned comment. If you have any further reading you can share with me, I'd love to take a look. - Sam

  • @oonojoe
    @oonojoe Рік тому

    Very Sad. R.I.P. Friends.

  • @tuxedotservo
    @tuxedotservo 2 роки тому +5

    Before my one object, I just want to say: very well done. Making sure to mention the Townsend is important - it shows a pattern of brittleness of the steel used in the two ships, and that it wasn't just a fluke incident that took the Morrell.
    A better comparison to put into the opening instead of the Edmund Fitzgerald would be the Carl D. Bradley. Broke in two, had 2 survivors. Granted, the Bradley isn't as well known to the average person on the street as Fitzgerald is.
    Fitzgerald's end was most likely due to touching bottom in or around Six Fathom Shoal - where she found herself after her radars failed, and the radio direction finder failed due to a power outage at Whitefish Point.
    Why Fitzgerald is in pieces: ua-cam.com/video/0ofZGGG96Iw/v-deo.html

  • @ScatteredCollector
    @ScatteredCollector 2 роки тому +6

    3:38 The steel used on the Titanic was actually the highest grade steel of the time, not the weakest. White Star Line did not cheap out on the building of her in any regards.

    • @StunningHistory
      @StunningHistory  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for clarifying here. I added some additional thoughts on that in a pinned comment. If you have any further reading you can share with me, I'd love to take a look. - Sam

    • @ScatteredCollector
      @ScatteredCollector 2 роки тому

      @@StunningHistory You’re very welcome, I’m happy to help with any misconceptions. As far as I can see, there was only the steel.

    • @greentriumph1643
      @greentriumph1643 2 роки тому +1

      True! But the highest grade steel of the time was not very good by today's standards. Through WWII ship steel had too many graphite inclusions and the brittle transition temperature was very high. The SS Schenectady, a WWII Oiler, fractured overnight in harbor, in a dead calm.

    • @toddcrickmore7196
      @toddcrickmore7196 2 роки тому +4

      Actually, yes they did ‘cheap out’ on construction-albeit primarily in terms of steel QUANTITY , not quality. The original plans called for steel plates 1.5 inches thick to be utilized in hull construction mid-ship, and 1 inch thick in the bow and stern areas. Because of continual cost-cutting pressure by White Star Line officials, Harland & Wolff acquiesced and used one inch thick amidships, and 3/4 inch steel in the bow and stern areas. In addition, H&W succumbed to pressure to finish construction quickly by procuring inferior iron constructed rivers high in slag and other impurities instead of steel rivets. The poor performance of these inferior rivets is believed to be one factor behind why the Titanic’s starboard bow plates failed to hold their structural integrity in the collision with the iceberg.

    • @ScatteredCollector
      @ScatteredCollector 2 роки тому

      @@toddcrickmore7196 thank you for that clarification

  • @drumdad54sdl47
    @drumdad54sdl47 2 роки тому +1

    Very very well done.
    Count me among your subscribers.

  • @stynger007
    @stynger007 Рік тому +2

    Ironic that both the Fitz and the Morrell both had 29 crew members.

  • @greggaieck4808
    @greggaieck4808 2 роки тому

    Ship geek expiring I like your utube videos are awesome

  • @AshleyHarleyman
    @AshleyHarleyman Рік тому +1

    Bad steel? She sailed for 60 years before her hull finally broke. I wouldn’t call that bad steel. I’d call it inevitable, with a ship worked hard for 6 decades. The number of cycles that hull went through over that period, it’s just a foregone conclusion that eventually this would happen.

  • @DBLDoG
    @DBLDoG 2 роки тому

    WoW good story !

  • @evolveausevolveaus
    @evolveausevolveaus 7 місяців тому +1

    For us landlubbers we really can't grasp the situation or what they went through