WE DESERVE BETTER FROM THE BATTLE PASS - PBM-5A Mariner in War Thunder

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  • @OddBawZ
    @OddBawZ  6 місяців тому +812

    Is it just me or are Battle Passes getting worse and worse? If we have all 4 boats, what do we get instead? A 100% SL Booster? lol

    • @Weeethunder
      @Weeethunder 6 місяців тому +32

      Copy and paste tech

    • @mcpenguin001
      @mcpenguin001 6 місяців тому +70

      Battlepasses aren't worth it anymore. Uninstall WT and get a better game instead, guys.

    • @liamboyle9199
      @liamboyle9199 6 місяців тому +6

      It's been worse and worse for a while now...

    • @taggoeshere
      @taggoeshere 6 місяців тому +2

      SL

    • @nova84930
      @nova84930 6 місяців тому +18

      I got to see the thing in real life, and it was HUGE. Like almost the size of the hangar it was in huge. But it’s not exactly great in war thunder ig. Still cool to see! But I wish gaijin would maybe start adding cool and effective vehicles and stop with the novelty tanks and planes so much.

  • @LokirofRoriksted
    @LokirofRoriksted 6 місяців тому +337

    0:55 the davy crockett is a decoration for vessels only, so you can't even put it in your tank

    • @OddBawZ
      @OddBawZ  6 місяців тому +198

      Awwwww :( Giant Elephant Helmet: YES! Davy Crockett: NO!

    • @yourhandlehere1
      @yourhandlehere1 6 місяців тому +64

      I think any decoration should work for any vehicle. I want spiky airplanes.

    • @LokirofRoriksted
      @LokirofRoriksted 6 місяців тому +8

      @@yourhandlehere1 that would look sick

    • @donutgaming88
      @donutgaming88 6 місяців тому +3

      @@yourhandlehere1 i have foud a grunt

    • @Simply_Canadian
      @Simply_Canadian 6 місяців тому

      @@yourhandlehere1 why yes, bushes on bombers, maybe no one will see them anymore

  • @idoticHydra5671
    @idoticHydra5671 6 місяців тому +144

    So thats how the sea mine ended up in the middle of nowhere of Sandford, England.

    • @19Ronnie10
      @19Ronnie10 6 місяців тому +12

      Yaaarp 😁

    • @ozan1234561
      @ozan1234561 5 місяців тому

      *slaps seamine*
      Noaaa, iz a loadajonk

  • @Daliaxez
    @Daliaxez 6 місяців тому +391

    the accent never gets old

    • @OddBawZ
      @OddBawZ  6 місяців тому +121

      REAL DALIA?!?!

    • @ThePiedPyro
      @ThePiedPyro 6 місяців тому +17

      in dis video goes hard

    • @thy-maternal-figure
      @thy-maternal-figure 6 місяців тому

      hes sco'ish maet

    • @SandysAwesome
      @SandysAwesome 6 місяців тому +2

      @@OddBawZ looks like it

    • @mersito3955
      @mersito3955 6 місяців тому +3

      I was disapointed when he showed his face a few videos ago. I always imagined the scotsman from samurai Jack playing war thunder and he's a normal guy instead.

  • @engineermerasmus2810
    @engineermerasmus2810 6 місяців тому +97

    Friendly reminder: The BP costs the same amount, as when it had 4 vehicles in it, and the main reward was a 7.0+ tank
    Now it has: 1 unique vehicle, because they can't even make a unique plane reward they legit just added 3 P-51Cs

    • @bradenhagen7977
      @bradenhagen7977 6 місяців тому +8

      Not only that but it cost more points to get all the rewards too.

  • @BDP0408
    @BDP0408 6 місяців тому +80

    I think the whole reason strat bombers have high SP in ground rb is a relic from AGES ago to when bomb targets (like in air rb) were in ground matches. If I remember correctly, you could bomb 3 of those, then kill the airfield just like in air rb to win the match

    • @suthiraksb
      @suthiraksb 6 місяців тому +4

      Or disable enemy air spawn.

    • @carlitosskater89
      @carlitosskater89 6 місяців тому +1

      Was that a thing? ​@@suthiraksb

    • @suthiraksb
      @suthiraksb 6 місяців тому +6

      @@carlitosskater89 It's big. When only your team can spawn CAS and enemy will never spawn CAS or fighter to fight back. Only SPAA is not enough.

  • @markfrost5164
    @markfrost5164 6 місяців тому +93

    2500 GE to get a crap artillery peice is wild

    • @quantumsage4008
      @quantumsage4008 6 місяців тому +27

      Worst part: they made it worse artificially....

    • @fish123qeyt7
      @fish123qeyt7 6 місяців тому +2

      Nah only 2000ge

    • @joshsullivan8527
      @joshsullivan8527 6 місяців тому +19

      2000 GE and a 3 month dedication to play the game and grind and do challenges for 2 semi unique vehicles lmao. They should have kept the three, and replaced the 10 days of premium time with the trophy of a random vehicle from a previous battle pass. But they didn't. Because they're being lazy about it. And normally I wouldn't call it laziness given that they might use that same time to implement and test new features, but they aren't reducing the price or the grind for the battle pass. So I label it as lazy. Maybe they don't want to lose any profit while they're trying to better the game, but they should take the small loss to strengthen their relationship with their community. The more your community loves your game, The more people will come to play it. Hell divers is a tribute to that, balders gate three is a tribute to that. It's just PlayStation killed the former and I'm hoping it recovers because they deserve the recovery.

    • @Smokey348
      @Smokey348 6 місяців тому

      1 of the only saving graces they can do is give the battle passes 1 more vehicle and the crate where you can get any vehicle of the old battlepasses and give the battlepasses a certain amount of GE (like 500 GE)

    • @mostcreativenameonyoutube3624
      @mostcreativenameonyoutube3624 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Smokey348 They should do it like a lot of games do. Give 100 ge every 5 levels or so, that way by the time you finish the BP you have a enough for the next one. But that would be a positive change and we can't have that around here.

  • @Ze_Taco_Guy
    @Ze_Taco_Guy 6 місяців тому +105

    The Davy Crokett at 0:55 is only for boats despite being mounted on a Jeep IRL.

    • @urielOrnstein
      @urielOrnstein 6 місяців тому +33

      Gaijin moment, makes the sickest thing in the BP exclusive to a dog shit, dead game mode. Amazing game design.

    • @dreadedbreadbed3705
      @dreadedbreadbed3705 6 місяців тому +5

      Well, there goes all my hope for the bp. Thanks for the info

    • @frostedbutts4340
      @frostedbutts4340 6 місяців тому

      @@urielOrnstein Naval chads stay winning

  • @ashman8891
    @ashman8891 6 місяців тому +73

    Hmm do I want a fat pig of a flying boat that'll get shot down before I get anywhere near where I want to bomb or the BTD which is only 0.3 BR higher, is about 200 kph faster, has a much better chance of reaching a base and is infinitely better at naval battles? Such a hard choice....

    • @OddBawZ
      @OddBawZ  6 місяців тому +36

      LOL

    • @Apollo-mn9wq
      @Apollo-mn9wq 6 місяців тому +2

      dont forget its also cheaper, and massively less time intensive to obtain, who'd know what to pick?

    • @csirke9822
      @csirke9822 4 місяці тому

      Do the MK13 mines still work in ground rb?

  • @drexsol2312
    @drexsol2312 6 місяців тому +31

    SP cost on a plane is also based on what belt/shell type you put on it. Any gun 23mm and up on just AP sets SP cost up to 150 increase.
    Like the Stuka with the the twin 37mm guns gets a SP cost of 631 just with AP, and its not even that good.

  • @nealsalman170
    @nealsalman170 6 місяців тому +63

    Hey odd according to some research and a suggestion on the forum, the Sholef is supposed to have Thermals, a LRF, Leopard 1 mobility and at least 40°/s turret rotation, and in game has the wrong cannon, They even got the weight wrong.
    It’s amazing how they butchered another Israeli vehicle.

    • @starquake8034
      @starquake8034 6 місяців тому +11

      Hope people make raise enough stink for Gaigin to "update" the vehicle. A sub-par vehicle is of no interest to me.

    • @lordpataknight1312
      @lordpataknight1312 6 місяців тому +10

      So thats why the reload is also wrong too

    • @eamonfitzmartin998
      @eamonfitzmartin998 6 місяців тому +12

      Yup. Reload should be about 6 seconds. Not 11. . .

    • @frostedbutts4340
      @frostedbutts4340 6 місяців тому

      'According to research' is some kid on the forums with 0 sources lmao

    • @magnum6763
      @magnum6763 5 місяців тому +1

      Sholef had 2 versions, V1/V2.
      V2 had all that, V1 didnt.

  • @TurnyPlays
    @TurnyPlays 6 місяців тому +10

    Holy poop, I don't even know how you bared to play this thing...Oh wait, Chaffee 🤣

  • @peterjensen9468
    @peterjensen9468 6 місяців тому +30

    What sucks about this is my great grandpa was a radioman on the PBM-5. Would have been great to get even though it's just another bomber at low tier. It's a shame that something I could have connected with my grandpa with is locked behind a mediocre battle pass paywall.

    • @ethanmurray9456
      @ethanmurray9456 6 місяців тому +14

      You can get the plane for free

    • @peterjensen9468
      @peterjensen9468 6 місяців тому +5

      sure its "free", but I am not willing to put myself through that slog of a grind just to get a mediocre plane at 3.7.

    • @fish123qeyt7
      @fish123qeyt7 6 місяців тому

      @@peterjensen9468you would be halfway there just by logging in every day

    • @jp18449
      @jp18449 6 місяців тому

      @@peterjensen9468 Its realy not difficult at all. To call it a "grind" is BS. Just log in everyday for your login bonus, do some of the daily missions and you'll get it.

    • @Dorsidwarf
      @Dorsidwarf 6 місяців тому

      @@ethanmurray9456 man, i play a couple games of war thunder every day on average, I've never gotten within 5 ranks of the free vehicle. "You can get it free" just seems like a fantasy to me, they want those event pass bucks BAD

  • @antonincooper346
    @antonincooper346 6 місяців тому +54

    Pro players: explaining why the new battle pass stinks
    Me: happy I reach lvl 6 relatively consistently

    • @LastGoatKnight
      @LastGoatKnight 6 місяців тому +9

      Me: "ooh, I reached lvl 34. Cool. Anyways, I have a jet to grind😂"

    • @PlayerSlotAvailable
      @PlayerSlotAvailable 6 місяців тому

      I got to level 2 last battlepass!

    • @keylorv1533
      @keylorv1533 6 місяців тому +3

      tbh, in my 1000 hours in the game, I never bother with the battlepasses haha, idk, maybe only the warbond shop is worth?

    • @BlueLightningHawk
      @BlueLightningHawk 6 місяців тому +8

      I got to level 111 or something on the Northern King Battlepass, and I still didn't bother to buy it, lol. Stuff is garbage. At least I got the T14 from the Warbond shop though.

    • @Brobobobobobobo
      @Brobobobobobobo 6 місяців тому +1

      The last battlepass i remember actually getting anything on was the one with the Hungarian bf109 f4 and its skin for Italy

  • @thisangell5935
    @thisangell5935 6 місяців тому +3

    "M1 Abrams for Low tier"
    I could not agree more. The Chaffee basically is what got me addicted to game. Lovely little tank. Im so glad you used a beautiful little tank when talking about the Battle pass.

  • @michealvalois4463
    @michealvalois4463 6 місяців тому +18

    As someone whos main aircraft in both Ground and Air is a US Heavy Bomber, Gaijins balancing decisions make me livid.
    Why should I be paying double the SP cost for my B-17 thatll likely become Ostwind or Fockewulf food, than a F8F Bearcat or an AD-4 Skyraider?

    • @OddBawZ
      @OddBawZ  6 місяців тому +11

      Exactly this.

  • @thezenic_real
    @thezenic_real 6 місяців тому +8

    the most wildest thing i have seen in warthunder is when marine ships bomb tanks. The torpedo glitch was crazy tho fr. Love your content dude!

  • @hqwefg
    @hqwefg 6 місяців тому +10

    Also another thing to mention with the new battlepasses is that all the profile pictures are just AI generated slop. Just worse all around, not even any wee woo lights to make up for it.

  • @snoopsoop2251
    @snoopsoop2251 6 місяців тому +9

    nice video about the chaffy, enjoyed it :)

  • @AllinWhenPlaying
    @AllinWhenPlaying 6 місяців тому +2

    Even funnier way too look at it, is that this is 1/3 of a nuke.

  • @speedevil22
    @speedevil22 6 місяців тому +5

    Great points. Another example of Gaijin's awful balancing can be seen in American premiums for air arcade.
    The A2D Skyshark sits at 9.0 despite having an only okay bomb load, far slower than the jets it will face, and no flares.
    The A1-H sits at 6.7 despite being able to carry 18 500 pound bombs, can equip fucking MINIGUNS, and has flares?
    If anything, the Skyshark should be at a BR like 7.0 and the A1-H should be at 6.7-7.0. (A1-H is fine where it is, just doesn't make sense to be 2.3 BR lower than A2D)

  • @maxegloff3001
    @maxegloff3001 5 місяців тому +1

    i love how spookston is like ok boys today we suffer and odd is like ok today we vaporize the entire enemy team in a m24 just to spawn a shitty plane and then suffer.

  • @steffent.6477
    @steffent.6477 6 місяців тому +2

    I like the idea of bringing back old vehicles in boxes. But loosing 2 new vehicles is pretty sad.

  • @trathanstargazer6421
    @trathanstargazer6421 6 місяців тому +3

    AA here, love a clear sky and love clearing it even more.

  • @xstorm_8_shadowx
    @xstorm_8_shadowx 6 місяців тому +2

    Remember when we use to get 75% exp & 75% lion boosters for 10 matches…

  • @LordVonGoose
    @LordVonGoose 6 місяців тому +1

    Preach Odd!!! These battle passes need to get better!

  • @duncanmcgee13
    @duncanmcgee13 6 місяців тому +5

    It costs more to bring HVAP belts than to bring bombs

  • @naughtyewok
    @naughtyewok 6 місяців тому +1

    I get home from an awful shift and Odd is there to save the day. Appreciate you man.

  • @Reshtarc
    @Reshtarc 5 місяців тому +1

    When the electricity goes off till when ever........ what do you truly own. Memories. Of the Games , you used to Playyyy.

  • @ChillAAAGaming
    @ChillAAAGaming 6 місяців тому +1

    Definitely will only be logging in to do enough to get reasonable points towards the Squadron F-5. Thanks for taking this one for us Mr BawZ!

  • @j.bo7
    @j.bo7 6 місяців тому +1

    My PBM-3 still has the sea mines. I took a bit of a break recently; but in the time I was active, I don't recall them ever being removed after they were added.
    The Mariner is okay for me in Ground RB. I use the 1000 lb since I find the mines to be too inconsistent. The fact that the plane can turn on a dime with such a large payload is a huge plus for level bombing on the small maps.

  • @Malpaise_Legate
    @Malpaise_Legate 6 місяців тому +2

    I just want more WW2 ground vehicles at the low-level unlock for the pass.

  • @Mr.LDF1
    @Mr.LDF1 6 місяців тому +4

    Im actually thankful that gaijin made such a bad battlepass, because i finally can take a break.

    • @CmoreChap
      @CmoreChap 6 місяців тому

      Hear hear !! My second break in a row LOL Cheers Gaijin

  • @HerbaceousM8
    @HerbaceousM8 6 місяців тому +1

    honestly if the planes where only big slow bombers at this spawn cost and the other trash was 1.5x it would help the game A lot.

  • @rollastudent
    @rollastudent 6 місяців тому +3

    21:09 imagine if bombing a point would start uncapping it. Like maybe not cause it to drain, but if bombed enough it would become neutral

    • @jaroslavsoukal3224
      @jaroslavsoukal3224 6 місяців тому

      Yea, it would add another layer of strategy to the game, however it has to be a rewardless act... it's like with a ground vehicle, you are getting nothing, no score, no rp/sl for just decaping a point.
      If it would grant you a "hit" reward, oh boi...

  • @beto12345
    @beto12345 6 місяців тому +5

    That's the definition of the slug madness...

  • @nathanbuckley808
    @nathanbuckley808 6 місяців тому +2

    CAS is a really fun element in War Thunder but I agree with the balancing issues especially as a German main. German CAS tech tree suffers in the low-mid tier (high tier isn't great either but less to complain about). Ju-88's and the other Ju models are surprisingly effective CAS platforms but are significantly overcosted and vulnerable compared to American fighters/attackers. Then you have the me-410s and Do series planes with the same issues (over 900 sp to bring full AP belts and bombs). What cost effective CAS does Germany get? Bf-109s with single bombs. That's it. American players basically play air rb in ground rb while so many other nations suffer.

    • @TainyaGaming
      @TainyaGaming 5 місяців тому

      Tbf Americans have to play Air RB in ground since American air sucks in Air RB.

    • @pencilcase8068
      @pencilcase8068 5 місяців тому

      I don't play ground RB so I can't say but based on what you said it seems like Germany is actually suffering in this regard

  • @txfrogboy8975
    @txfrogboy8975 6 місяців тому +1

    0:57 “Vessel” I thought it was for tanks to and was excited about something in the battlepass, it was quickly extinguished when I saw it was for ships

  • @emptyforrest
    @emptyforrest 5 місяців тому +1

    honestly, the biggest issue i have with the BP is the time limited challenges, timegating them is fine. but they should be active until the BP ends. also dont like how they force you to play gamemodes you dont like. as some one that dont play a lot, its almost impossible to advance the BP without doing the challenges and doing daily stuff... and this is ofc by design because they want you to buy levels. which is stupidly overpriced.

  • @jmarttal
    @jmarttal 5 місяців тому +1

    The snail actually would have SO MUCH data on games to succesfully balance/price vehicles and CAS if they used it and did some work. But no, use some so-called algorithm from 10 years back and never lift a finger. 😭

  • @MrClauws
    @MrClauws 6 місяців тому +2

    I quit War Thunder a year ago, I just watch now cause Odd is so wholesome

    • @nicholasholloway8743
      @nicholasholloway8743 4 місяці тому

      You'll be back. Sad to say. Keeps getting me every few years or so.

  • @Berz3rkaa
    @Berz3rkaa 6 місяців тому +1

    25:23 ODDBAWZ WHY DID YOU PUT THAT CERTAIN FLAG OVER THAT CERTAIN WORD😂😂😂😂

  • @sharkk127
    @sharkk127 6 місяців тому +100

    Odd, 800 sp should be what all cas cost, being able to spawn a plane with 1 kill is bs

    • @r1zmy
      @r1zmy 6 місяців тому +16

      hell, you dont even need a kill, you could get in a cas fighter in like 5 spots, or an assist and a cap. it's so dumb.

    • @alkatraz9514
      @alkatraz9514 6 місяців тому +8

      What a brain dead thing to say lol

    • @JohnDoe-vm5rb
      @JohnDoe-vm5rb 6 місяців тому +1

      I'd be okay if there was a way for less dangerous stuff or less dangerous loadouts cost less points.

    • @someonewithafox
      @someonewithafox 6 місяців тому +4

      Then there would be next to no point for anti-air being in the game.

    • @politedog4959
      @politedog4959 6 місяців тому +8

      1400 sp at least for the shittiest cas and helis.
      Getting into cas should be a reward for doing very well in a battle, not a guaranteed given for anyone performing marginally above a literal walnut smeared in dog shite

  • @zerrierslizer1
    @zerrierslizer1 5 місяців тому +1

    the spawn point cost for Fighters with any sort of bomb load should be doubled.
    and yes, the Battlepass is going defunct. all because Gaijin refuses to listen to feedback and want nothing but to get as much money as possible as quickly as possible, even if it costs them the game.

  • @CranyUm
    @CranyUm 6 місяців тому +3

    If they don’t wanna balance the SP of strategic bombers, they should make the AI gunners way better like they are in Naval. At least give fighters a reason to be afraid of them

    • @bradenhagen7977
      @bradenhagen7977 6 місяців тому +1

      Like the old days of the Japanese death star.

  • @mexicanlord837
    @mexicanlord837 6 місяців тому +4

    Love your content u make it look so easy

  • @tkg__
    @tkg__ 6 місяців тому

    I liked how in the very early days (I think beta for Ground Forces) the aircraft had their own bombing targets on the big map. You see the reason why ground forces' map is embedded like that in the bigger air map is that there were usual bombing targets (bases like in RB Air). Destroying them had an impact on the score/tickets. Gaijin removed this, unfortunately, I think when they introduced the Spawn Points in the first place.

  • @Uubier
    @Uubier 5 місяців тому

    lmfao that line at one minute, YUUPP the decorations are the only worthy thing...locking incredible, or incredibly ridiculous

  • @misterperson3469
    @misterperson3469 6 місяців тому +1

    One day if I have kids im going to lie to them and say I love them more than anything, because how could I love them more than the m24 Chaffee

  • @Jaesnek
    @Jaesnek 6 місяців тому +1

    Unironically they should do 3 new vehicles and the rotating trophy to get older vehicles into the hands of new players. But Gaijin absolutely wouldn't ever do that.

  • @spud4839
    @spud4839 6 місяців тому +1

    Yippie another video from the mighty man himself

  • @MediocreHexPeddler
    @MediocreHexPeddler 6 місяців тому

    If you want a fun low-tier bomber experience, the PBY-5A is the way to go. It has four 1000lb bombs on the wings, a 9mm armor plate behind the pilot for defense against 7mm guns at BR 1.7, and it's far more maneuverable.

  • @7ThePrimagen
    @7ThePrimagen 6 місяців тому +2

    the only thing worth getting in this battlepass is the davy crockett

    • @OddBawZ
      @OddBawZ  6 місяців тому +3

      I just realised it’s a ship decoration only! :(

    • @7ThePrimagen
      @7ThePrimagen 6 місяців тому +2

      @@OddBawZ ur kidding me,
      christ, either way I loved the vid, hope we could play together some time if you, well if you wanna laugh at how horrible somebody can play a game

  • @Dusty_Russkie
    @Dusty_Russkie 6 місяців тому +1

    Spookston must be very happy

  • @notsoracistraspberry4168
    @notsoracistraspberry4168 6 місяців тому +1

    Even the decorations were better before like the wee woo light 🚨

  • @LordD0g
    @LordD0g 6 місяців тому +11

    It’s deteriorated over the years

  • @tank5o866
    @tank5o866 5 місяців тому

    @OddBawz interesting fact about the new arty battle pass tank… it has two caracoles for ammo, an auto loader that takes 11.5 seconds, 5 cal penetrate armor, and useless rolled armor where the fuel tanks are

  • @GenErick64
    @GenErick64 6 місяців тому +2

    I think if they continue with the smaller BP, they should also reduce the price at least

    • @frostedbutts4340
      @frostedbutts4340 6 місяців тому

      Keep the price the same and reduce the grind imo

  • @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933
    @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 6 місяців тому +3

    I feel like the M16/43 Celere Sahariano has been completely forgotten about, could we get a video on it in the future?

  • @NJPurling
    @NJPurling 6 місяців тому

    The only thing more useless would be a WW1 FE2B & a guy with a dozen 20lb Cooper Bombs, of which the charge weight was only 4lb.
    Your wings coming off was self-inflicted by the excessive dive speed.They were twanging like they were made of rubber.

  • @ExcavationNation
    @ExcavationNation 6 місяців тому +1

    I never thought id feel bad for a plane because of the way it looks.

    • @eamonfitzmartin998
      @eamonfitzmartin998 6 місяців тому +1

      I think the PBM looks rather nice. One of the more attractive seaplane bombers.

  • @Jack_Gibby
    @Jack_Gibby 6 місяців тому +1

    It would be nice if tried to make bombers more viable in mixed battles. In naval you will die 99% of the time in your spawn as well. Your bombers will verse ships with air-to-air missiles.

  • @Smokey348
    @Smokey348 6 місяців тому

    1 of the only saving graces they can do is give the battle passes 1 more vehicle and the crate where you can get any vehicle of the old battlepasses and give the battlepasses a certain amount of GE (like 500 GE spread through out the BP)

  • @truaxe815
    @truaxe815 6 місяців тому +2

    The Chaffee is such an awesome light tank!💪

  • @Go3Gaming
    @Go3Gaming 6 місяців тому

    The camo on the CHAFFEE looks sick!

  • @rexw2203
    @rexw2203 6 місяців тому

    Good stuff as always Odd. Both vehicles are going to be underperforming targets for anything else in any other tech tree. And if a Russian vehicle even LOOKS in your direction while you're in either of these vehicles you will spontaneously detonate. More one-sided crap like this is exactly what the snail is about.

  • @FirestormMk3
    @FirestormMk3 6 місяців тому

    I mean, Gaijin has made it pretty clear they don't want people playing level bombers. Naturally they're slow and unmanuverable but they're also the most fragile aircraft in the game - a few machine gun rounds and they fly apart instantly. They also can't actually do anything in air mode, and you're showcasing why they can't be used in ground either.

  • @leafleap
    @leafleap 6 місяців тому +1

    This and the OG mariner are kind of sad vehicles that dont really fit in to the game anywhere tbh, try playing it in air RB/AB and you will get eaten up 9/10 times without even reaching a base to bomb. Its so slow, giant and doesnt climb well, everyone just sees you as a flying piñata. Even in its natural environment, naval, its completely useless and will get nuked by every ship on the map opening up on you before you even come near the battlefield, especially at 3.7 naval. Its almost like these types of vehicles are just added as glorified collectibles.
    Would be cool if they had PVE modes where this could shine, but that will never happen.

  • @connivingkhajiit
    @connivingkhajiit 6 місяців тому

    The prevalence of OP CAS in GRB has had a silver lining: I have quickly learned how to dogfight in my Spitfire and have had tons of fun blowing dudes out of the sky

  • @ChaosWolf3
    @ChaosWolf3 6 місяців тому

    I think what they really need to do is create a system that generates a SP cost more dynamically based on a number of factors. Size of bombs would be a huge factor, but number of those bombs would also matter. What you put those bombs on would also matter though, with bombers getting a multiplier like 60% cost, attackers getting a bit more of a flat cost and fighters getting a 150% cost increase. This way fighters are more incentivised to take smaller bombs and focus more on shooting down other aircraft while proper ground attackers can be a bit more ground focused. Bombers though, they should honestly be some of the cheapest to spawn ( with loads) as their bombs are really their only armament. Fighters with no load would also be cheap to fight back against other aircraft though. I would still say that radius of destruction should matter too though, so bombs like the fab 5000 on the Pe-8 would be quite expensive to spawn compared to a B-17 with a handful of 1000lbs.
    They also need to take a look at bomber BRs in GRB too. There's no justification of the B-17 being a higher BR than the Pe-8. The Pe-8 flies almost like a fighter with wings that can be tough to rip off. The B-17 can barely turn without ripping itself apart. Bombers need to be a bit sturdier too as even if you manage to shoot down a fighter with your defensive guns, one strafe on you is often enough to cause your death later anyway due to the damage sustained.

  • @stevenbodley7132
    @stevenbodley7132 6 місяців тому

    Love watching your videos I play war thunder on mobile and you’ve made me a better player thank you so much and don’t stop posting video

  • @WIKUS70
    @WIKUS70 6 місяців тому +1

    Gaijin being out of touch with how their game works... well butter my butt and call me a biscuit.

  • @jasonkaczynski8218
    @jasonkaczynski8218 6 місяців тому

    I think the plane is actually more for naval mixed battles which is nice cause we naval players are always ignored

  • @Justa318i
    @Justa318i 6 місяців тому +1

    Same BR as the PV2D which has 6 sea mines, 8 rockets, 8 nose mounted .50s and is actually flyable
    Even at 3.0 the pbm-3 is abysmal i dont know what the hell they are thinking with 3.7, and for what? A radar? what good is a radar to a pbm lmao

  • @keithrogers6876
    @keithrogers6876 6 місяців тому

    I used to enjoy spawning my big dumb 4 engine bombers (the ones that don't have stupidly big bombs that kill through mountains) and carpet bombing stuff.. nowadays I spawn and get instantly cut in half by either a buzzsaw on the ground or a super fast cannon fighter hawking the air spawn...

  • @mattb.2359
    @mattb.2359 6 місяців тому

    I did find out the hard way that sea bombs, or least bombs to hit naval targets, completely ignore the bomb timer. A bomb is a bomb.

  • @jgdowell
    @jgdowell 6 місяців тому +1

    I haven't subscribed to the battle pass for almost a year now. There's very little value in it recently. Surprisingly, I have just as much/more fun playing, because I'm not worried about grinding specific things. I just have fun.

  • @treysmith8917
    @treysmith8917 5 місяців тому

    Did you know Ozzy and his Son drive a Chaffee tank at a local museum?

  • @petrkdn8224
    @petrkdn8224 6 місяців тому

    Speaking of spawn costs, Buccaneer S.2B in full downtier can be as much as 896 SP... basically 900

  • @flak8842
    @flak8842 6 місяців тому

    the BPM is going to be mainly an SIM bomber for the grind it will never work in Air RB or Ground RB
    only a simulator battles type of bomber because it's easier to kill enemies in gunner because most enemies are using joystick or their keyboard or mouse aim which cannot be accurate when shooting
    i think if you take it at Ground Sim it might work out tho you have to still know where the freindly forces are

  • @Talendale
    @Talendale 6 місяців тому

    Charitably, you could make this thing a 2.7 and it'd still feel like flying target practice.

  • @TheDevildogGamer
    @TheDevildogGamer 6 місяців тому

    The Mariner would be great if Naval was actually a good mode, Make the map bigger, add submarines, etc etc I would be fine if 2 updates were only dedicated to flushing out Naval and making it everything it deserves to be

  • @goodsoup6085
    @goodsoup6085 6 місяців тому

    I never used to use cas but with the way it is I wish I started using it sooner, you can quite easily turn a not so good game in to a decent one and get an almost 100% chance to make enough SP to get another tonk

  • @thisisaduck
    @thisisaduck 6 місяців тому

    Big bombers like this are much more responsive if you’re using realistic or full real keyboard controls rather than mouse aim. It’s pretty useless at turning and you never need to point their nose in a very specific position.

  • @sparrowjanitor1272
    @sparrowjanitor1272 6 місяців тому

    I love the Chaffee so much, probally my favorite tank alongside the super pershing.

  • @warhead_beast7661
    @warhead_beast7661 6 місяців тому

    At least its not as bad as what they did to the arty. It should have laser rangefinder, thermals, 2 plane stabilizer and a 6.67s autoloader but gajin decided no, it even has the housing for the LRF on the 3D model

  • @Tony_B_In_Alaska
    @Tony_B_In_Alaska 6 місяців тому

    You’ve convinced me to ignore yet another battle pass. Thank you. :)

  • @wadebrown8772
    @wadebrown8772 6 місяців тому +3

    Odd I don't remember seeing you play the sav m43

  • @TheReader1998
    @TheReader1998 6 місяців тому

    seems like a good amount of spawn points for cas, would be cool if they would aply it to all other cas

  • @lazydragon2551
    @lazydragon2551 6 місяців тому

    Aah, Gaijin, thinking fighters and other smaller aircraft are made of void metal and other incomprehensible materials. And bombers are sneezed out of the sky. Definitely a fun and balanced game.

  • @redminer6394
    @redminer6394 6 місяців тому

    Don’t forget that there is also a tech tree Mariner at and even lower BR

  • @randomyt666
    @randomyt666 6 місяців тому

    I honestly believe gaijoobles needs to up the spawn point cost for all aircraft in Ground RB. It'd make matches much more enjoyable without having to worry about getting bombed a billion times

  • @theRandler_77
    @theRandler_77 6 місяців тому

    Because you, OddBawZ, played the Alecto at lower-mid tier, it would be awesome if you did the same with the Tetrarch I. I do it sometimes and it is hilarious killing German tanks with a 2pdr. I find that everything is weak to the APHE except for the Tiger I & II, of which you will struggle to kill with APCBC.

  • @danmallery9142
    @danmallery9142 6 місяців тому

    Well, at least you got to enjoy the sublime M24...

  • @XL_2_c
    @XL_2_c 6 місяців тому

    wow so many uploads, i love this!

  • @Nimori
    @Nimori 6 місяців тому

    Remember when Ground RB had bases you could bomb, just like Air RB? Maybe they should bring that back?

  • @bjrnegillarsen1380
    @bjrnegillarsen1380 6 місяців тому

    The only things of any value to me this time around are the boosters and backups since I don't touch naval, have decent enough air-lineups and can't be arsed playing Israel since I only play anything post-wwII to hopefully someday grind out the nation I main

  • @artiarora-n6e
    @artiarora-n6e 6 місяців тому

    10:00
    YOU GOT A HOLE IN YA RGHT WING !!!

  • @sneakyfishiix8014
    @sneakyfishiix8014 6 місяців тому

    The issue is planes like this should be used at night in a minimum 4 ship raid against targets that really don't know your coming.

  • @genericgermangamer4177
    @genericgermangamer4177 6 місяців тому +1

    LOVE YOUR VIDS ODDBAWZZ ALWYS MAKE ME LAUGH EVEN ON BAD DAYS