the first time i saw blade runner i was watching the cut with the voiceover, my parting thoughts of the movie was simply. "cant believe i just heard Harrison Ford say the n-word"
I interpreted the scene with K and the giant purple Joi a little differently. I agree that in that moment, K realises that Joi was programmed to satisfy him, that she was just a product (as said by Luv). But then again, so is he. He's an artificial creation, programmed to kill other replicants, never questioning orders. In the end, did that make him any less human? Did that make his relationship with Joi any less real? Even though they were both artificial programs, the moments they shared together were very much real, they were memories not even the best memory creators in the world could replicate. Ultimately, this influences him to reaffirm his humanity by sacrificing himself for the right cause, because he wants to prove that even if K was born a machine, he lived and died a human.
This is supported directly by K and Joi's relationship in the movie. She has her own unique and warmer personality compared to others probably because K is so cold, distant, & detached. It's like her programming to make K feel good adjusted to him specifically which is like what we do when dealing with unique people in our day to day interactions. I thought her looking & acting completely different from every other Joi we see in the movie was making this entirely clear the movie is pro artificial life. Luv crushing Joi was not her stomping on K's fake holo waifu it was her taking a life, a tragedy. She was just as real as K.
@@Lin_Eileen Completely agreed. Two things can be true. I think there was some musing that Joi was programmed to call men Joes, but when his Joi said it it made him special. In a sense, we're all programmed similarly- very many people call a loved one "honey" , but it only makes you feel special when your loved one says it with their special experience with you. All Jois have a base program, but then they need to adapt to new memories and experiences.
@@Lin_Eileen …and martyr. Joe literally gave his life so others could live. By bringing father/daughter together he started the revolution that would make humans of everyone equally. Can’t wait for the sequel - hope it don’t take decades.
@@maxwellschmidt235 You call also say that "special" words like "honey" or "love" lose all meaning once these people use them all the time and with everyone.
One thing I loved about K's journey that doesn't get talked about often is how his final choice is his own. Even though he is told to kill Deckard to protect the secret, he instead saves Deckard's life, and sacrifices himself to simply reunite him with his daughter. I love that he made a human choice. He didn't get swept up in a cause and just follow the rebel replicants' instructions. He didn't strike out in revenge and try to kill Wallace. To K, this wasn't about a future for replicants or humanity; this was about reuniting a family. TL;DR: It's about family, and that's what's so powerful about it.
I thought this myself if I was in that kind of world. Forget these people, the international corporations with their slave armies. Forget every unfortunate. I just don't care. What I care about, if I were K, is that for one second I thought I was a real boy with real parents, and I thought that I met my father. Maybe I could give that hope and love to his daughter instead.
This doesn’t even necessarily feel like a literally me video. It’s just a damn good analysis of the plots and what makes them iconic, even outside of the sigma appeal.
Huh. I love that final line of the first movie. "Too bad she won't live - but then again who does?" Interesting to hear your readings, because they seem different than mine. I have always interpreted as "Too bad she will not live a full life, but then again nobody today manages to life a full, fleshed out life, to their expectations."
That's about where my interpretations have always been. I admit it's multi-layered, but I've always found it to be somewhere between talking about biological lifespan and experiencing humanity within that lifespan. There could be a bit of threat beneath it, but the key is "but then again who does?". It's just another diminution of the differences between human and replicant.
One of the reasons why it rains is because they use hydrogen for fuel and the byproduct is water and therefore it rains all the Tim, love the video essays!
2049 might be the best late sequel. I can't think of a better one at the moment. I saw it several times in the theater. The world would be a better place if we all had our own Ana de Armas.
I was so ready for 2049 to suck, after all, such late sequels often end up being nothing but fanservice pieces that do nothing to continue the themes and plot of the original, but holy shit it floored me. Left the theater teary eyed.
@@revolzyy I don’t. Loving a robot brings you one step closer to being one. Being a robot brings you one step closer to being a weapon against whomever your programmer wants…more evil than evil.
It’s a small gripe, but I’ve always preferred the novel’s (D.A.D.E.S.) 4-year life span explanation to the movie’s. There’s something really tragic about the replicants being so close to perfect, but held back by the natural dilemma of cell replication. Also, I love Isidore’s character in the book. Changing it so Tyrell could be incorporated has its merit, but Dick’s exploration of “specials” was amazing
Isn't that the actual explanation in the movies? I think kino mis-attributes a bit. Their lifespan is limited by cell replication, as Tyrell tells Roy. Blade Runners are only called in when replicants rebel or come to earth. Edit: that's true of the first blade runner, 2049 updates the lore to give replicants natural lifespans due to advancements since the first movie. I agree that the limited lifespan raises good and great questions, but I find the update appropriate, as it removes one more barrier to the audience considering the humanity or at least "humanity" of the replicants.
J.F. Sebastion is sort of like an Isidore I suppose. He's lonely, a "special," and emotionally manipulated by the replicants in the same way Isidore was.
my favorite line from the film is when Wallace states “Pain reminds you the joy you felt was real.” Not only does the pain K feel throughout the film, signify that he himself is innately “human”, because he’s lived and felt a human experience, but it also reinforces the fact that the love he felt for Joi was real, making her death ever more heartbreaking and real to the audience. A breathtaking film on so many levels.
I was waiting for this video, the Blade Runner films are some of my favorite films I have ever seen. Coincidentally, I just watched Falling Down, so I’m hoping that you are also planning to do a video on that one. I still don’t get why I never watched it before, it was great.
grayman operators stand out like a sore thumb ... its now a bloo-hair wearing red&black and carrying bottled water (for the pepper spray) and a rainbow dildo for defense
Joi's about as human as any of us. She's programmed, but so are we, just by our genetics, culture, environment, experiences. And she gives her life for a cause, "the most human thing you can do."
I consider Joi to have moral weight as a being with independent experience, but I disagree with her being as human as anyone. She didn't give her life for a cause, to the extent that she gave her life, she gave it to stay with her man. Even in that, she took the risk of deleting one copy of herself, which wasn't all that much of a risk because the apartment had even more risk of compromise than K's pocket did. And I'm also not sure it's established that Jois have a self preservation instinct or program. Just my two cents on the matter. I love Blade Runner.
I'm a little iffy on that. Relationships of any sort with other humans, by their very nature, are difficult and complicated. If conflict is impossible because one partner's very existence conforms and revolves arpund the other, I don't think that can be considered real.
No, JOI was a cope and a fake. The fact that she used the replicant girl to have sex with him shows the merging of his artificial life with a real one. Remember the scene with that replicant girl where she says, "Oh, you don't even smile." It's K reuniting with what he really is, a replicant. And separating himself from the programmed part of his life. Notice how this ginger girl was also the one to wake him up, before he was informed that the replicants were rebelling in secret. He was killing himself and loving something fake made by Wallace Corp. And his quest to find himself destroyed it and brought him closer to a relationship with another replicant.
The beauty of K and Joi's relationship is that, while some of it was programing, it had evolved far past that. She wanted to be real for K. She wanted to feel him, take him in, to be alive like him. In her final moments, she pleads for his life. There's genuine fear in her, for herself, but mainly for K. Her final words to him are, "I love you." A program, no matter how advanced, wouldn't react that way. When Joi dies, she dies as a woman pleading for the man she loves' life. It doesn't get much more real than that.
You nailed it: Joi “evolved” in a similar way to K. It was in fact their “interaction/love” which caused this. Lotta “Christ/ martyr” symbolism in this film.
No, JOI was a cope and a fake. The fact that she used the replicant girl to have sex with him shows the merging of his artificial life with a real one. Remember the scene with that replicant girl where she says, "Oh, you don't even smile." It's K reuniting with what he really is, a replicant. And separating himself from the programmed part of his life. Notice how this ginger girl was also the one to wake him up, before he was informed that the replicants were rebelling in secret. He was killing himself and loving something fake made by Wallace Corp. And his quest to find himself destroyed it and brought him closer to a relationship with another replicant.
To be fair, it's been re-cut and re-mastered a bunch of times which has kept it up with our expectations. I do think a lot of its staying power is that it didn't rely on a bunch of cheesy special effects or contemporary references, I just think we need to keep in mind that there has been maintenance performed.
This was an incredibly insightful look at both movies. I think the original and the sequel aren’t compared often enough, and you nailed it here. Keep it up man, God bless you!
I saw both for the first time back to back and after experiencing them both I gotta say I think 2049 is the better movie. The original is a masterpiece no doubt but I feel that 2049 was Able to see everything that made the original great and fix everything that held it back like the poor pacing and such, honestly that’s probably just because I’m a sucker for Gosling
I thought pacing was similar in both. What I'll say for 2049 is, it did in one cut what it took the original 7 tries. 2049 did A LOT right, I can respect preferring it, but I still find all the layers of meaning in the original keep it on top for me.
I think 2049 made a greater impression on me because I was a teenager when it came out, I got excited for the movie, watched the phenomenal trailers, waited for it to come out and then experienced it in a large cinema fully immersed never having heard anything about the movie (whereas most of us knew of Blade Runner or even saw clips b4 seeing the full movie if you were born past the 90s). And some of those themes I think hit really hard personally. Blade Runner's ending though is of course hard to beat, goddamn brilliant scene. Blade Runner 2049 is a great example of how great modern movies can be, that the whole bs about post-modernism doesn't have to be true because there's plenty new things you can do while using the old.
I enjoy the Theatrical cut of Blade Runner. I felt like the unicorn represents Rachel in that cut and the Final cut really manipulates you into believing Deckard is a replicant. I'm also glad this stuff was left out of 2049.
I really love that prior or the first movie if nothing especially because of its visual aesthetic. To me, for whatever reason everything else as the story and the characters come secondary but that being said. It does not take away from one another in whatever way, movie in its entirety is simply beautiful... More or less, wasn't it so hmm. Depressing. I can still remember my own, so to speak: tears. In rain.
I don't take them to be depressing, myself. Sometimes they provoke existential terror, but I don't take the bleakness as sad- humans are still experiencing the world in that future.
@@maxwellschmidt235 True, and therein lies an interesting and perhaps a positive aspect as if almost to say: regardless of the conditions, human kind is going to thrive regardless.
I remember watching Bladerunner 2049 for the first time on a Virgin America flight. I still remember the romance scene came on as we were flying over the Sierra Nevadas. It was a magical moment looking down at the snowcapped peaks with that music in the background, one of the most peaceful moments of my life.
I think a really good video for literally me characters would be Ed Crane from the man who isn't there, just a suggestion. Keep up the good work with the channel you're running! Good job!
2049 is my favorite movie ever and my introduction to literally me lol. One of the only movies that surpasses the original imo and one of the only times in modern day where and old movie gets a sequel and not a half baked reboot
I can’t believe they left the unicorn dream completely out of the theatrical cut. I watched it first and had no idea Deckard could be a replicant until I saw it online.
It was a good decision. Story works better if Deckard is human. There are also other things in the movie that confirm Deckard to be human. Ridley Scott just muddied the water with that scene in final cut.
@@sharku8417 How does it work better? It's simpler, sure- man finds compassion for something other than himself. But the ambiguity still forces us to acknowledge our own need to grow in compassion, while also adding new layers of questioning what actually makes us human.
@@maxwellschmidt235 because it showcases the difference between androids who show a lot of emotions (something we associate with humans) and a human who is emotionless (something we associate with machines). And Batty saving Deckard at the end, someone who has been hunting and killing them just because they want to live, further reinforces these differences. Also Deckard takes the Voight-Kampff test and passes it, confirming him to be human.
@@sharku8417 it's all still there at the final cut, and then some. As Kino points out, the question we're meant to get to is: does it actually matter if Deckard is human or replicant? Anyway, the greatest part of Blade Runner is all the layers of meaning it gives us to ponder and discuss, so I'm also glad there are 7 cuts to discuss the presentation layer along with everything else.
That's because (I'm sure) that that possibility was never even considered back then. There was never any suggestion that he might be a replicant....I suspect that theory was generated by fans and Scott just ran with it. I really don't know why this need of fans to read this idea into it. Isn't it enough just to have him human for God's sake?
This was before you started to gain traction on YT. I'm so glad I went back to your back catalog after discovering you. Your videos are literally me. I bought an electric longboard to keep myself busy during quarantine. I needed a riding jacket, since my leather jacket was destroyed from falling hard on pavement too many times. Guess which jacket I bought? Then I found your Drive video. Kino recognize kino, my man.
I have to say, blade runner is one of my favorite things of all time, period. I just love the characters, the lore, the world building, the philosophical and existential questions. Everything about BR is just beautiful. Fuck the haters, blade runner is a masterpiece and so is the sequel.
I hope they never make it into a content mill. Currently each piece of media in the Blade Runner universe keeps turning new questions around in my head.
I've always loved the original Bladerunner but after seeing 2049 for the first time last year it is without question one of my favourite movies and probably better than the original.
While K interprets the interaction with the giant Joi as proof his Joi didn't really love him, he's wrong. Earlier when his spinner crashed in the scrapheap he was knocked out cold, with danger around him while his glitching out Joi cried and pleaded with him to wake. If she felt nothing for him, she wouldn't have bothered, as he was unconscious and essentially not present to see.
I go on record right now... I liked the voice over! It was also great in like Memento, Apocalypse Now, and Goodfellas. Getting old school Noir... Double Indemnity and Bogart's The Enforcer come to mind. It suits the genre!
"Voice over" is actually great. It fully matches the "noire" feel of the movie, and Harrison Ford's reluctant attitude towards idea only makes him sound more... authentically jaded.
I see the scene with the large advertisement Joi differently. Here, I think, K understood "his own" Joi had truly gone beyond her programming (recall the circumstances of how she wanted to become "like a real girl"), and more than just product. Seeing the ad and hearing it call him Joe, he was hit with the enormity of his loss at a crucial time: when he fully realized you don't have to be born human to be more than just a product.
I watched the new one with my brother and right when it was starting, he said "you are gonna like this more than the original." and I just scoffed at the idea, but now after watching this and thinking about it, I think I do.
I personally found the scene in 2049 with the giant Joi hologram a bit disturbing since she had black, soulless eyes and so I took everything she was saying as if she didn't mean it.
the first time i saw blade runner i was watching the cut with the voiceover, my parting thoughts of the movie was simply. "cant believe i just heard Harrison Ford say the n-word"
Certified gamer moment
Ooooffffff, so glad that wasn't my experience
@@eduardovillagomez3675 it's only in one cut of the movie too
Look look ok lol po look look ok ⁰
@@chiefgreef357 one out seven chances, sucks he got the losing hand on that one.
I interpreted the scene with K and the giant purple Joi a little differently. I agree that in that moment, K realises that Joi was programmed to satisfy him, that she was just a product (as said by Luv). But then again, so is he. He's an artificial creation, programmed to kill other replicants, never questioning orders. In the end, did that make him any less human? Did that make his relationship with Joi any less real? Even though they were both artificial programs, the moments they shared together were very much real, they were memories not even the best memory creators in the world could replicate. Ultimately, this influences him to reaffirm his humanity by sacrificing himself for the right cause, because he wants to prove that even if K was born a machine, he lived and died a human.
All his beliefs of being special were wrong....he really was nobody..but chose to do some thing right. The defintiton of a hero
This is supported directly by K and Joi's relationship in the movie. She has her own unique and warmer personality compared to others probably because K is so cold, distant, & detached. It's like her programming to make K feel good adjusted to him specifically which is like what we do when dealing with unique people in our day to day interactions. I thought her looking & acting completely different from every other Joi we see in the movie was making this entirely clear the movie is pro artificial life. Luv crushing Joi was not her stomping on K's fake holo waifu it was her taking a life, a tragedy. She was just as real as K.
@@Lin_Eileen Completely agreed. Two things can be true. I think there was some musing that Joi was programmed to call men Joes, but when his Joi said it it made him special. In a sense, we're all programmed similarly- very many people call a loved one "honey" , but it only makes you feel special when your loved one says it with their special experience with you. All Jois have a base program, but then they need to adapt to new memories and experiences.
@@Lin_Eileen …and martyr. Joe literally gave his life so others could live. By bringing father/daughter together he started the revolution that would make humans of everyone equally. Can’t wait for the sequel - hope it don’t take decades.
@@maxwellschmidt235 You call also say that "special" words like "honey" or "love" lose all meaning once these people use them all the time and with everyone.
One thing I loved about K's journey that doesn't get talked about often is how his final choice is his own. Even though he is told to kill Deckard to protect the secret, he instead saves Deckard's life, and sacrifices himself to simply reunite him with his daughter. I love that he made a human choice. He didn't get swept up in a cause and just follow the rebel replicants' instructions. He didn't strike out in revenge and try to kill Wallace. To K, this wasn't about a future for replicants or humanity; this was about reuniting a family.
TL;DR: It's about family, and that's what's so powerful about it.
that TLDR got me lol
I thought this myself if I was in that kind of world. Forget these people, the international corporations with their slave armies. Forget every unfortunate. I just don't care. What I care about, if I were K, is that for one second I thought I was a real boy with real parents, and I thought that I met my father. Maybe I could give that hope and love to his daughter instead.
@@josephs.3372 What's TLDR?
@@MrX-zz2vk referencing star wars interview that RLM memed
Yeah. The memories and emotions were real. He was thus, in that case, the child. He had to reunite his otherself with her father. Interlinked.
Oh boy another Kino Corner video. I wonder if this movie literally has me in it.
Boy does it do
This doesn’t even necessarily feel like a literally me video. It’s just a damn good analysis of the plots and what makes them iconic, even outside of the sigma appeal.
Huh. I love that final line of the first movie. "Too bad she won't live - but then again who does?" Interesting to hear your readings, because they seem different than mine. I have always interpreted as "Too bad she will not live a full life, but then again nobody today manages to life a full, fleshed out life, to their expectations."
That's about where my interpretations have always been. I admit it's multi-layered, but I've always found it to be somewhere between talking about biological lifespan and experiencing humanity within that lifespan. There could be a bit of threat beneath it, but the key is "but then again who does?". It's just another diminution of the differences between human and replicant.
One of the reasons why it rains is because they use hydrogen for fuel and the byproduct is water and therefore it rains all the Tim, love the video essays!
Where did you learn that? Interesting.
@@Kastoruz a very old Nat Geo from the late 90s
2049 might be the best late sequel. I can't think of a better one at the moment. I saw it several times in the theater. The world would be a better place if we all had our own Ana de Armas.
I was so ready for 2049 to suck, after all, such late sequels often end up being nothing but fanservice pieces that do nothing to continue the themes and plot of the original, but holy shit it floored me. Left the theater teary eyed.
"The world would be a better place if we all had our own Ana de Armas"
I agree, sort of
@@revolzyy I don’t. Loving a robot brings you one step closer to being one. Being a robot brings you one step closer to being a weapon against whomever your programmer wants…more evil than evil.
Isn't Joy just a product just to please you and escape reality? In the video the narrator says that and it's true. We don't need that.
"The world would be a better place if we all had our own Ana de Armas"
That is literally the opposite message the movie is saying
2049 is probably my favorite movie of all time.
In mi top ten
Dunno about of all time but 2049 definitely one of my top Sci-fi films.
I prefer it to Blade Runner to be honest
“When Batty confronts Tyrell he crushes his eyes, killing the soul of the man playing god who gifted him a soulless body”
If only there is a movie called Being Ryan Gosling instead of Being John Malkovich.
It’s a small gripe, but I’ve always preferred the novel’s (D.A.D.E.S.) 4-year life span explanation to the movie’s. There’s something really tragic about the replicants being so close to perfect, but held back by the natural dilemma of cell replication. Also, I love Isidore’s character in the book. Changing it so Tyrell could be incorporated has its merit, but Dick’s exploration of “specials” was amazing
Isn't that the actual explanation in the movies? I think kino mis-attributes a bit. Their lifespan is limited by cell replication, as Tyrell tells Roy. Blade Runners are only called in when replicants rebel or come to earth.
Edit: that's true of the first blade runner, 2049 updates the lore to give replicants natural lifespans due to advancements since the first movie. I agree that the limited lifespan raises good and great questions, but I find the update appropriate, as it removes one more barrier to the audience considering the humanity or at least "humanity" of the replicants.
J.F. Sebastion is sort of like an Isidore I suppose. He's lonely, a "special," and emotionally manipulated by the replicants in the same way Isidore was.
my favorite line from the film is when Wallace states “Pain reminds you the joy you felt was real.” Not only does the pain K feel throughout the film, signify that he himself is innately “human”, because he’s lived and felt a human experience, but it also reinforces the fact that the love he felt for Joi was real, making her death ever more heartbreaking and real to the audience. A breathtaking film on so many levels.
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I was waiting for this video, the Blade Runner films are some of my favorite films I have ever seen. Coincidentally, I just watched Falling Down, so I’m hoping that you are also planning to do a video on that one. I still don’t get why I never watched it before, it was great.
Sorry but Ryan Gosling is now a low-vis greyman operator gooner, I've changed my personality to reflect that.
I'm thinking of changing it as well, until I see the trailer that is. When's the trailer coming out anyway?
"All these personalities will be lost in time, like tears in rain... Time to change!"
grayman operators stand out like a sore thumb ... its now a bloo-hair wearing red&black and carrying bottled water (for the pepper spray) and a rainbow dildo for defense
Ah yeeesss. Another character to make up for my lack of personality
You know the future is beyond screwed when even a guy who looks like Ryan Gosling needs a holographic girlfriend....
When the Ana de armas hits
Joi's about as human as any of us. She's programmed, but so are we, just by our genetics, culture, environment, experiences. And she gives her life for a cause, "the most human thing you can do."
I consider Joi to have moral weight as a being with independent experience, but I disagree with her being as human as anyone. She didn't give her life for a cause, to the extent that she gave her life, she gave it to stay with her man. Even in that, she took the risk of deleting one copy of herself, which wasn't all that much of a risk because the apartment had even more risk of compromise than K's pocket did. And I'm also not sure it's established that Jois have a self preservation instinct or program. Just my two cents on the matter. I love Blade Runner.
I'm a little iffy on that. Relationships of any sort with other humans, by their very nature, are difficult and complicated. If conflict is impossible because one partner's very existence conforms and revolves arpund the other, I don't think that can be considered real.
Joi was artificial through and through and that's ok.
No, JOI was a cope and a fake. The fact that she used the replicant girl to have sex with him shows the merging of his artificial life with a real one. Remember the scene with that replicant girl where she says, "Oh, you don't even smile." It's K reuniting with what he really is, a replicant. And separating himself from the programmed part of his life. Notice how this ginger girl was also the one to wake him up, before he was informed that the replicants were rebelling in secret. He was killing himself and loving something fake made by Wallace Corp. And his quest to find himself destroyed it and brought him closer to a relationship with another replicant.
The movie about nobody who believes to be somebody, and ended up being actual somebody.
"A real human being, and a real hero."
I see what you did there.
The beauty of K and Joi's relationship is that, while some of it was programing, it had evolved far past that. She wanted to be real for K. She wanted to feel him, take him in, to be alive like him. In her final moments, she pleads for his life. There's genuine fear in her, for herself, but mainly for K. Her final words to him are, "I love you." A program, no matter how advanced, wouldn't react that way. When Joi dies, she dies as a woman pleading for the man she loves' life. It doesn't get much more real than that.
You nailed it: Joi “evolved” in a similar way to K. It was in fact their “interaction/love” which caused this. Lotta “Christ/ martyr” symbolism in this film.
No, JOI was a cope and a fake. The fact that she used the replicant girl to have sex with him shows the merging of his artificial life with a real one. Remember the scene with that replicant girl where she says, "Oh, you don't even smile." It's K reuniting with what he really is, a replicant. And separating himself from the programmed part of his life. Notice how this ginger girl was also the one to wake him up, before he was informed that the replicants were rebelling in secret. He was killing himself and loving something fake made by Wallace Corp. And his quest to find himself destroyed it and brought him closer to a relationship with another replicant.
I love this movie, I watch it all the time. You could even say I watch Blade Runner on repeat
bro the origional blade runner still looks so good to this day
To be fair, it's been re-cut and re-mastered a bunch of times which has kept it up with our expectations. I do think a lot of its staying power is that it didn't rely on a bunch of cheesy special effects or contemporary references, I just think we need to keep in mind that there has been maintenance performed.
Harrison Ford saying the n-word is literally me
Me too
Kiss
watch clint eastwood in escape from alcatraz as well. literally me
Leonardo DiCaprio in Django
And Martin Scorsese in Taxi Driver
Ryan Gosling is literally me and I'm not even kidding
Hell yeah, I didn't even realize you were going to get into 2049 too. The first half was good on its own
it shows it in the thumbnail? r u special???
@@cloudzrip4208 I am special, and to answer your first question, yes it does show it in the thumbnail. Not sure why you asked
@@cloudzrip4208 yes it shows it in the thumbnail, could have just checked instead of asking but ok.
I have been waiting for this. Great channel love it. The analysis is so well articulated.
It's actually frightening how you explain ideas and concepts about the movies that I've been keeping in my mind for some time. Excellent essay!
This was an incredibly insightful look at both movies. I think the original and the sequel aren’t compared often enough, and you nailed it here. Keep it up man, God bless you!
I saw both for the first time back to back and after experiencing them both I gotta say I think 2049 is the better movie. The original is a masterpiece no doubt but I feel that 2049 was Able to see everything that made the original great and fix everything that held it back like the poor pacing and such, honestly that’s probably just because I’m a sucker for Gosling
I agree with you completely!
Agree
I thought pacing was similar in both. What I'll say for 2049 is, it did in one cut what it took the original 7 tries. 2049 did A LOT right, I can respect preferring it, but I still find all the layers of meaning in the original keep it on top for me.
I agree I just love the first ones asthetics way more but the story is way better
I think 2049 made a greater impression on me because I was a teenager when it came out, I got excited for the movie, watched the phenomenal trailers, waited for it to come out and then experienced it in a large cinema fully immersed never having heard anything about the movie (whereas most of us knew of Blade Runner or even saw clips b4 seeing the full movie if you were born past the 90s). And some of those themes I think hit really hard personally. Blade Runner's ending though is of course hard to beat, goddamn brilliant scene. Blade Runner 2049 is a great example of how great modern movies can be, that the whole bs about post-modernism doesn't have to be true because there's plenty new things you can do while using the old.
LOL at a replicant being given goatse as an implanted memory
Dude, ive watched 3 videos in a row, your texts and narration got me glued to the chair kkkk
The Tears in Rain monologue is the single greatest piece of entertainment ever made. Nothing will ever surpass it.
I usually shy away from such superlative statements, but you may be right about that.
Found your channel a couple months ago, been enjoying your videos ever since. Keep up the good work guy
ive been waiting for you to make this vid for a while
holy shi im watching Blade Runner 2049 right now 💀💀💀
just finished watching it. ‘twas pretty good. i like the part where ryan gosling is literally portraying my life.
I watched both films with my buddy in jr year and it changed me in a significant and meaningful way
Bro that intro was absolutely brilliant. o7 to you sir.
inter-glinked
you’re way off baseline
Need an android gf
No
^ literally me
These kind of videos are starting to grow on me. I like the background music.. it fits
Great summary of all the things I love about these movies. Awesome work!!
MOOOOOOOOOM NEW KINO CORNER JUST DROPPED
she yelled at me ad told me to get a job
I enjoy the Theatrical cut of Blade Runner. I felt like the unicorn represents Rachel in that cut and the Final cut really manipulates you into believing Deckard is a replicant. I'm also glad this stuff was left out of 2049.
I really love that prior or the first movie if nothing especially because of its visual aesthetic. To me, for whatever reason everything else as the story and the characters come secondary but that being said. It does not take away from one another in whatever way, movie in its entirety is simply beautiful...
More or less, wasn't it so hmm. Depressing. I can still remember my own, so to speak: tears. In rain.
I don't take them to be depressing, myself. Sometimes they provoke existential terror, but I don't take the bleakness as sad- humans are still experiencing the world in that future.
@@maxwellschmidt235 True, and therein lies an interesting and perhaps a positive aspect as if almost to say: regardless of the conditions, human kind is going to thrive regardless.
I really like that subtle reference at begin of the song A Real Hero from the movie Drive
I HIGHLY recommend you read Do androids dream of electric sheep. It's fantastic I cried a bit at the end
yo holy crap at 0:49 that reference to Drives soundtrack is so subtle, literally me
I remember watching Bladerunner 2049 for the first time on a Virgin America flight. I still remember the romance scene came on as we were flying over the Sierra Nevadas. It was a magical moment looking down at the snowcapped peaks with that music in the background, one of the most peaceful moments of my life.
I think a really good video for literally me characters would be Ed Crane from the man who isn't there, just a suggestion. Keep up the good work with the channel you're running! Good job!
0:13 very good travis bickle impression
2049 is my favorite movie ever and my introduction to literally me lol. One of the only movies that surpasses the original imo and one of the only times in modern day where and old movie gets a sequel and not a half baked reboot
I can’t believe they left the unicorn dream completely out of the theatrical cut. I watched it first and had no idea Deckard could be a replicant until I saw it online.
It was a good decision. Story works better if Deckard is human. There are also other things in the movie that confirm Deckard to be human. Ridley Scott just muddied the water with that scene in final cut.
@@sharku8417 How does it work better? It's simpler, sure- man finds compassion for something other than himself. But the ambiguity still forces us to acknowledge our own need to grow in compassion, while also adding new layers of questioning what actually makes us human.
@@maxwellschmidt235 because it showcases the difference between androids who show a lot of emotions (something we associate with humans) and a human who is emotionless (something we associate with machines). And Batty saving Deckard at the end, someone who has been hunting and killing them just because they want to live, further reinforces these differences.
Also Deckard takes the Voight-Kampff test and passes it, confirming him to be human.
@@sharku8417 it's all still there at the final cut, and then some. As Kino points out, the question we're meant to get to is: does it actually matter if Deckard is human or replicant? Anyway, the greatest part of Blade Runner is all the layers of meaning it gives us to ponder and discuss, so I'm also glad there are 7 cuts to discuss the presentation layer along with everything else.
That's because (I'm sure) that that possibility was never even considered back then. There was never any suggestion that he might be a replicant....I suspect that theory was generated by fans and Scott just ran with it.
I really don't know why this need of fans to read this idea into it. Isn't it enough just to have him human for God's sake?
These analyses are literally too good
another great video. i appreciate your work.
This was awesome. Love your shots as well
Nice! First video on YT that made me understand BR.
This was before you started to gain traction on YT. I'm so glad I went back to your back catalog after discovering you. Your videos are literally me. I bought an electric longboard to keep myself busy during quarantine. I needed a riding jacket, since my leather jacket was destroyed from falling hard on pavement too many times. Guess which jacket I bought? Then I found your Drive video. Kino recognize kino, my man.
Lmao, thought it was old because it's so new the views are low. Fooled myself.
I have to say, blade runner is one of my favorite things of all time, period. I just love the characters, the lore, the world building, the philosophical and existential questions. Everything about BR is just beautiful. Fuck the haters, blade runner is a masterpiece and so is the sequel.
I hope they never make it into a content mill. Currently each piece of media in the Blade Runner universe keeps turning new questions around in my head.
There are BR haters??
2049 is my favorite movie of all the time
One of my top 10 films. Easily my favorite science fiction.
I like the drive reference. A real hero’s a good song too
you perfect human bean: "goatsy, one man one jar, pain Olympics." XD
Love them both
Thank You
I've always loved the original Bladerunner but after seeing 2049 for the first time last year it is without question one of my favourite movies and probably better than the original.
👍x 100^100, great analysis. BLADE RUNNER FOREVER.
Cheeky "A Real Hero" lyrics in the intro there
While K interprets the interaction with the giant Joi as proof his Joi didn't really love him, he's wrong. Earlier when his spinner crashed in the scrapheap he was knocked out cold, with danger around him while his glitching out Joi cried and pleaded with him to wake. If she felt nothing for him, she wouldn't have bothered, as he was unconscious and essentially not present to see.
Great video
The more I contemplate Villeneuve's movies, the more and more I love them.
They're simply me favourite films 😎
Are you Northern by chance?
It's interesting how much Blade Runner differs from Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. I recommend Quinn's Ideas video on it!
Great breakdown
I go on record right now... I liked the voice over!
It was also great in like Memento, Apocalypse Now, and Goodfellas. Getting old school Noir... Double Indemnity and Bogart's The Enforcer come to mind. It suits the genre!
Great Video! Two great movies!
Blade runner 2049
Blade runner directors cut
Shutter Island
Taxi driver
Full metal jacket my top 5 movies
Children of Men is my favorite movie.. but Blade Runner 2049 is right behind it. They are the only two movies I will die on a hill for.
"Voice over" is actually great. It fully matches the "noire" feel of the movie, and Harrison Ford's reluctant attitude towards idea only makes him sound more... authentically jaded.
He finally posted it!!!!!
Glad i found this channel. Tasty content
I kind of understand why men relate to the characters Ryan Gosling plays
2049 broke me
I still think about this movie even though its been years since ive seen it
I see the scene with the large advertisement Joi differently. Here, I think, K understood "his own" Joi had truly gone beyond her programming (recall the circumstances of how she wanted to become "like a real girl"), and more than just product. Seeing the ad and hearing it call him Joe, he was hit with the enormity of his loss at a crucial time: when he fully realized you don't have to be born human to be more than just a product.
"You imagined it was literally yuo? Oh, you did, you did"
Love both movies but the original is still the best for me. Well the directors cut/ final cut is.
Austin does surprisingly well as a stand-in for Blade Runner's Los Angeles.
Finally, My favorite Literally me character. K.
Wow Kino Corner is literally me
I watched the new one with my brother and right when it was starting, he said "you are gonna like this more than the original." and I just scoffed at the idea, but now after watching this and thinking about it, I think I do.
Oh wow its literally me
holy shit UA-cam ads are so obnoxious you're lucky your content is worth it
As soon as I finished Blade Runner 2049 I changed my birth certificate and name to make Ryan Gosling literally me
Was not expecting to get reminded of one man one jar, an implanted memory hopefully
Great video!
I've watched this movie more than 50 times.
Glad to see HugBox in this
I personally found the scene in 2049 with the giant Joi hologram a bit disturbing since she had black, soulless eyes and so I took everything she was saying as if she didn't mean it.
Good stuff