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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • People are really frustrated at the Hockey Hall of Fame... largely because of the players they snubbed, with Alexander Mogilny at the forefront. We'll break that down and more on today's video!
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  • @donziperk
    @donziperk Рік тому +11

    I had season tickets when Mogilny was in Vancouver. He was so much fun to watch. He was a great offensive player as well as being a reliable defender. But one thing I noticed was how strong and solid on his skates that he was. Hard to knock off the puck and delivered some pretty solid hits. He was one of the first I remember seeing using the reverse hit when he had the puck.
    He definitely deserves being in the HHOF.

  • @TD_JR
    @TD_JR Рік тому +9

    I hung out, briefly, with Alex. Used to be a bar on Main street called "The New Pink". The owner also owned or was affiliated with the "Pink Flamingo" (now 223 Allen) down in Allentown. Anyhow, he was next to my group of friends when I bought some shots and asked him if he wanted anything. Got him a beer, talked for a bit, and hung out that night there at the bar shooting the shit. He smoked like a chimney. Wound up making plans to meet him out the week after at another club on Chippewa. After that, he had to get back into training and lost touch. Good guy, great fucking player. Those days with Lafontaine were something special.

  • @ianyazbec5829
    @ianyazbec5829 Рік тому +27

    I really hope we get to see Pavel Datsyuk inducted into the hall of fame as the best stick handler and pickpocket in the NHL

    • @moappleseider1699
      @moappleseider1699 Рік тому +2

      I think next year is his first of eligibility. He better get in first ballet

  • @mattanderson6336
    @mattanderson6336 Рік тому +4

    2:50 Defensive stalwarts. Claude Provost won nine Stanley Cups with Montreal in the six team era and isn’t in the HHOF. Playing night after night against Bobby Hull, Gordie Howe, Frank Mahovlich as a defensive forward deserves recognition.

  • @rorybiller
    @rorybiller Рік тому +40

    Mogilny is an incredibly important figure in the history of hockey. He paved the way for Soviet/Russian players. Even his story of escaping the Soviet Union alone should be enough to solidify his spot. With that said, Mike Vernon was a beast. He led 2 teams to the Stanley Cup.

    • @josec.quintos9247
      @josec.quintos9247 10 місяців тому

      And Mike Richter an American who beat The mighty Team Canada isn't important in hockey folklore in fact the Hall of Fsme wMts to erase his memory after being 17 yrs since his retirement he is still being snubbed

  • @MBrauny12
    @MBrauny12 Рік тому +3

    the Kevin Lowe induction was an old boys club move

  • @martintaiani
    @martintaiani Рік тому +2

    Mogilny also had an "almost" 50 goals in 50 games (50 in his first 46, team's 53rd)

  • @The-Dom
    @The-Dom Рік тому +3

    I think every once in a while you'll see a weird year to catch up on some guys who should have been in but kept getting bumped for the new candidates.

  • @user-yg1dg6xm2g
    @user-yg1dg6xm2g Рік тому +19

    How many people are pissed? How many people are not pissed at the Hockey Hall of Fame?" What is the percentages of pissed to not pissed?
    I'm sure that at any given time it's possible to find people out there who are pissed about something.

    • @obamna2570
      @obamna2570 Рік тому +5

      Alright Jordan Peterson. What constitutes being pissed? Now thats a bloody complicated question, and there’s no simple answer.

    • @brodieshawn63
      @brodieshawn63 Рік тому +2

      Mate, it's just a flashy title to grab peoples attention, it isn't too deep

  • @kpcallahan
    @kpcallahan Рік тому +1

    Mogilny should absolutely be in the hall - at this point, his exclusion is a clear snub, and while I think he will get in, the fact that he hasn't yet is really an injustice. There was a time when he was probably the most feared winger in the league - a lethal combination of incredible skating ability, speed, terrific hands, and an amazing wrist shot. Combine that with the way he put the initial cracks in the Iron Curtain that Soviet players faced by defecting to play here and you have a clear Hall of Fame-worthy case for him. He'll get in, but his wait time has been silly and unwarranted.

  • @ajg7628
    @ajg7628 Рік тому +1

    As a Devils fan I'll admit I'm biased towards Mogilny and Elias...how Mogilny isn't in the HHOF is beyond me...I understand that Elias didn't have mindblowing offensive numbers but skillwise he was elite for well over a decade and played in a defensive first system...he likely would've been a top tier scorer in almost any other system...no problem at all with Henrik getting in as a first ballot HOFer as he was one of the best goaltenders of the last 20 years...not to say that Vernon and Barrasso aren't deserving but sorry under no circumstances would I listen to a case of them making it over Mogilny, Elias, Brind'Amour and Roenick

  • @Kanders190
    @Kanders190 Рік тому +9

    Brind'Amour should be in the hall for the 2006 Cup presentation alone. Ripping the cup out of Gary's hands before he could get a picture. 11/10 stuff

  • @GrandFunker
    @GrandFunker Рік тому +1

    Brind'Amour is my all time favorite player so I'm all in on him being a Hall of Famer

  • @bkoskitalo96
    @bkoskitalo96 Рік тому +2

    Mogilny is one of only 7 guys all time to have scored over 1000 pts in faster than 1000 games and still NOT be in the HHOF. Buddy scored 76 goals in a season and was a force to be reckoned with in his prime. He deserves to be in the hall without a doubt. Thats not good enough to get in supposedly but a career 3.24GAA and .892 for Barrasso is? make it make sense.

    • @zednik4hart
      @zednik4hart Рік тому

      you also have to consider barassos prime was in the 80s

  • @topgun9666
    @topgun9666 Рік тому +8

    Chris Osgood should have been before Vernon

  • @uranium54321
    @uranium54321 Рік тому +1

    I’m glad Turgeon got in, he’d been getting snubbed for years. Mogilny is higher profile than he was so he’ll probably get in fairly soon. I hope Sergei Gonchar also gets in at some point, he def deserves it

  • @GapCaseman
    @GapCaseman Рік тому +1

    The HHoF starts to seem like the All-Star game for how seriously it should be considered. That's in reference to some very notable players that have been excluded from induction while having the credentials of a good fit in the HoF.

    • @LurchyScott
      @LurchyScott Рік тому +1

      Jere Lehtinen is one. 3 time Selke winner and one of the best defensive forwards in the game during his playing time. But because he doesnt have the points I guess no one cares. It's a shame. The dude was an absolute unit.

  • @PhoenixRiseinFlame
    @PhoenixRiseinFlame Рік тому +1

    They need to add more goalies, the HHOF under inducts goalies generally and goalies like Cujo deserve to be in the hall.

  • @Sir_Sydney_live
    @Sir_Sydney_live Рік тому +1

    Brind'amour is another player that I kinda thot deserved to be in the HHoF Edit: he has his cup he has 1500 games played and has 1 or 2 Sleke's iirc

  • @leatherbound4233
    @leatherbound4233 Рік тому +1

    Mogilny way over due, Roenick it's his mouth keeping him out, speaks his mind (good or bad) and the NHL can't have that. I agree so many others deserve to be there based on stats and the hall is getting to political.

  • @guyincogneto8979
    @guyincogneto8979 Рік тому

    For overall career, Mogilny had a longer, more productive career than Pavel Bure and was at least equal to Sergei Federov. And he was WAAAY better than both Turgeons combined. That is a serious omission on the HOFs part.

  • @Austin-wv5st
    @Austin-wv5st Рік тому +2

    i wish datsyuk was in the hall of fame

  • @darkphoenix2
    @darkphoenix2 Рік тому +1

    Wow, I can't believe the snub.
    Eck didn't even bring up Osgood OR Zetterberg in this video.

    • @EckHockey
      @EckHockey  Рік тому

      No rush for Zetterberg

    • @andrewswinson6213
      @andrewswinson6213 Рік тому +2

      Osgood got carried by OP wings teams and I don't think zetterberg is eligible yet.

    • @darkphoenix2
      @darkphoenix2 Рік тому +3

      @@andrewswinson6213 A lot of the best goalies ever played on great teams, that's generally how hockey works

  • @flyingdin1164
    @flyingdin1164 Рік тому +1

    If it’s the hall of “the best ever” then Henrik shouldn’t have even been considered.

  • @THELEAFSFAN
    @THELEAFSFAN Рік тому

    Curtis Joseph should be in as well

  • @m1cr0member
    @m1cr0member Рік тому

    Pretty soon the hof will have to be called the hall of former players

  • @jonathanzappala
    @jonathanzappala Рік тому

    CuJo is better than both Vernon and Barasso. There is a fair case against Turgeon. JR is the next guy with the most points, and I would say he doesn’t make the cut for me. Kevin Lowe doesn’t belong for me. Brind’amour doesn’t make it for me either. I would have picked Mogilny, CuJo, Elias (but I’m biased there) as the other 3.

  • @delilahknight6068
    @delilahknight6068 Рік тому

    The reason Mogilny hasn’t been inducted is because there’s a good chance he wouldn’t show up for the ceremony. He is very modest when it comes to receiving awards and thinks it’s a hassle, refused to show up and accept the Lady Byng and did not show up for the Buffalo Sports Hall of Fame, and the NHL wants to avoid the embarrassment of inducting someone who would probably not show up for it. He was my dad’s favourite player and one of mine too. I don’t think he will ever be inducted but people will recognize his greatness anyway.

  • @ChristopherMoltisanti-j4w
    @ChristopherMoltisanti-j4w Рік тому

    When I say Brindamours name and have a quick think about his career i feel like he should be there but he's on the bubble for me

  • @brandoncrotty1517
    @brandoncrotty1517 8 місяців тому

    HOF is a joke. Not to have Mogilny is ridiculous. Have no respect for those voting. Sad every player who played with or against Alex says without a doubt he should be in. But I guess the clowns at the Hall have their say. Embarrassing for the Hall and sport of hockey.

  • @crimsonVSveridian
    @crimsonVSveridian Рік тому +2

    Henrik Lundqvist bias... give me a break... 1st ballot Hall of Famer is a joke

  • @bobbyboucher-k9t
    @bobbyboucher-k9t Рік тому +1

    Henrick has no place in the hall if fame

  • @anonymousanonymous-cl8nr
    @anonymousanonymous-cl8nr Рік тому

    Im a Penguins fan I hate the Flyers. Jeremy Roenick deserves a hall of fame spot. I always rooted against him but I always wanted him on my team.

  • @DDWyss
    @DDWyss Рік тому

    Mogilny is technically Asian, not European.

  • @vinniebarusa
    @vinniebarusa Рік тому

    Andy Moog should be in the HHOF

  • @jfkst1
    @jfkst1 Рік тому +1

    Mogilny Roenick Gonchar should be in. Not Turgeron Brindamour Barrasso Vernon.

    • @thomasbusy3632
      @thomasbusy3632 Рік тому

      Never heard of Turgeron. But Sneaky Pete is finally getting in and is well deserved!

    • @jfkst1
      @jfkst1 Рік тому

      @@thomasbusy3632
      Doesn't deserve it over the ones I mentioned. Joseph would be another strong one over Barrasso.

  • @koshka02
    @koshka02 Рік тому

    Mogilny Magic.

  • @hlmfromdao
    @hlmfromdao Рік тому

    It’s cuz he’s Russian and what’s going on with Russia. I don’t agree with Mogilny getting left out. So what if he’s Russian he deserves to get in there. It’s literally a crime that Mohilny is getting left out of the hall of fame. I hope he makes it man. Politics should be left out of this decision.

  • @kylehart8829
    @kylehart8829 Рік тому

    I hate the pointless exclusion of Russians from everything. Obviously what the military is doing is awful but it's extremely unpopular in Russia and athletes, students, etc. have nothing to do with it.

  • @alfiesmullet1311
    @alfiesmullet1311 Рік тому

    I just want to see Brian Murray inducted one day

  • @cam2159
    @cam2159 Рік тому

    Lol Funny how they’re saying they support Russia 😂 by not letting in moginly

  • @crackericeproductions
    @crackericeproductions 10 місяців тому

    Theo flurry shoul of Ben there years ago

  • @bobbyboucher-k9t
    @bobbyboucher-k9t Рік тому

    Henrik is not hof material

  • @paulybeefs8588
    @paulybeefs8588 Рік тому +3

    It sort of makes sense not to induct Russian players this year. You literally can't take a flight out of Russia in order to attend the ceremony, so...

  • @BillyBob-pu2vc
    @BillyBob-pu2vc Рік тому +2

    Everything is political
    Even this channel!
    Dress Mogilny up in rainbows and he will sure fire hall of famer!

  • @LeechUFC
    @LeechUFC Рік тому

    Jeremy Roenick thinks there’s an anti-American bias in an american dominated sport? Most ridiculous thing i’ve heard

  • @saifonlawrence2044
    @saifonlawrence2044 Рік тому

    When will they start inducting their quota of LBGTQ players ?

    • @chiefkeef74
      @chiefkeef74 Рік тому

      When Hell freezes over, now fuck off.

  • @localfocalkc
    @localfocalkc Рік тому

    Jeremy roenick comes off like an a****** but he deserves to be in the hall!

  • @Rat-du2mv
    @Rat-du2mv Рік тому

    First

  • @wurker1466
    @wurker1466 Рік тому

    The entire process is political. The hall has boxes to check.

  • @Penttihille
    @Penttihille Рік тому +44

    There is a legend of Mogilny coming to the US. A Finn, Christian Ruuttu, was picking up / driving Mogilny around the Buffalo in the first days. Or even the first day. Mogilny was really scared about getting caught by Russians and being brought back to the USSR, he was really quiet and jumpy. They wanted to get something to eat before going to hotel, but no one had any cash with them, so they headed to an ATM. Mogilny was curious about what was happening, he didn't really speak english yet, was lurking behind when withdraw was made. When he saw what happened he sparked joy and said "America, great country, money from the wall!"
    Not sure how true the story is, can't even remember where I heard it, but it is such a great one that I have been telling it forward. Mogilny definately deserves a spot in the HHOF.

  • @hofpavs
    @hofpavs Рік тому

    First

    • @hofpavs
      @hofpavs Рік тому

      BACK TO BACK LFG☠️

  • @user-iz3gv5vo6b
    @user-iz3gv5vo6b Рік тому +66

    Mogilny deserves to be in. I hope that Cujo will some day get the recognition he deserves and be inducted into the HHOF.

    • @jeffreycairns767
      @jeffreycairns767 Рік тому

      Same with Osgoode. I feel both goalies deserve it more then Henrik

    • @anonymous134y
      @anonymous134y Рік тому

      @@jeffreycairns767 hedrick/price were the best goalies of our generation. How does he not deserve it? He cosistently carried a mediocre rangers team to the conference final.

    • @jeffreycairns767
      @jeffreycairns767 Рік тому

      @@anonymous134y I never said they wasn't 2 of the best for this generation. What I disagreed with was anybody calling either the GOAT.

    • @Mega-rw8mt
      @Mega-rw8mt 11 місяців тому

      @@jeffreycairns767 i haven't looked much at CuJo but Osgood i really don't think deserves it more than Henrik, Osgood had 5 seasons below a .900 sv% (and after a quick peek, so did CuJo but i don't think Cujo had like an entire first line of HOF's at any point in his career other than on the Red Wings) on the best dynasty in the last 30 years, Lundqvist only had 2 below .910% (.905 and .907) on a bad team and thats just his sv%, unfortunately the earliest i can see more advanced stats (really just GSAx) to really prove my point is '08-'09 where Osgood was 36 and was having the worst season of his career seemingly and in '09-2010 he had a .001 higher sv% than the previous season and the next season he only played 11 games so i can't really compare them evenly
      edit: Datsyuk hasn't even been HOF Eligible yet? tf??? but we all know as soon as he is its an instant entry. i didn't bother actually checking because there's no way in hell they're not all in the HOF and now that i did check i see atleast 5 names i recognize from that team in the HOF

  • @Pikapiplup4
    @Pikapiplup4 Рік тому +57

    The hhof have horrible standards especially when there are issues like mogilny.
    Triple crown member instant hall of famer and the fact that brindamour won back to back selkes and not to mention the Stanley cup is despicable.
    Mogilny is baffling

    • @brandocalrissian3294
      @brandocalrissian3294 Рік тому +2

      They don't like him because of the political ties of the time. Hockey has the most corrupt hall.

    • @Pikapiplup4
      @Pikapiplup4 Рік тому +1

      @@brandocalrissian3294 agreed

    • @Unholy_Louie
      @Unholy_Louie Рік тому +1

      "Stabley" cup > Stanley cup haha :P
      I love this accidental typos lol

    • @DirtyDan77
      @DirtyDan77 Рік тому

      Agreed. Guys who were instrumental in winning the Stanley Cup deserve attention from the hall

  • @cannoliscards
    @cannoliscards Рік тому +28

    There is definitely an anti-Russian bias that should only be directed towards their government. Not right to treat hockey players and regular people with less respect.

    • @csnide6702
      @csnide6702 Рік тому +1

      it depends.... If these Russians PUBLICALLY disavow themselves from what is going on with war in Ukraine and say Putin is wrong - then yes. If they refuse to do so - pack them up and fly them to Moscow .

    • @cannoliscards
      @cannoliscards Рік тому +1

      @@csnide6702 No. it’s not their responsibility to put themselves and their family in harm’s way just to make a statement that ultimately carries no weight.

    • @csnide6702
      @csnide6702 Рік тому +2

      @@cannoliscards tell that to the Japanese AMERICANS that were interned in the 40s

    • @cannoliscards
      @cannoliscards Рік тому

      @@csnide6702 what the fuck are you going on about? I don’t condone discrimination against people due to their heritage at all so that is wrong too. I am glad they were paid reparations (those that were still around at least) and we acknowledged that it was wrong. Still don’t know why you would bring this up when it only reaffirms my position.

    • @1ouncebird
      @1ouncebird Рік тому

      @@csnide6702 Sorry but no. A player should be able to be voted into the hall of fame regardless of what his country and their stupid dictator are up to NOW - years after the player retired from hockey.

  • @Kwert
    @Kwert Рік тому +5

    Barasso and Vernon are definitely deserving, as you said, but it’s mind blowing that Mogilny continues to be snubbed year after year.

  • @jdmrchem5
    @jdmrchem5 Рік тому +18

    Tom Barrasso deserved to be in the HHOF. This guy did the unprecedented as an 18-year-old kid that won the Vezina trophy and he was a playoff performer with the Penguins especially with those two cups he and his team won in 1991 and 1992, plus he was one of the best American goalies at the time. Mike Vernon was a stud during his heyday and was an excellent playoff performer with the 1986 Flames, 1989 Flames, and the 1997 Red Wings while being a small guy. Pierre Turgeon deserved the hockey hall of fame for his incredible skill play and team impact, but his potential greater heights was ruined by Dale Hunter's cheap shot. King Henrik is a stud that deserved the hall of fame being the Rangers' main netminder for many years, wins at least 30 games consistently, and a strong playoff performer. Alexander Mogilny is a stud as well and made his own name in the NHL. Politics ruin everything in hockey, not going to lie. JR and Mogilny are both studs, but I guess that Bettman had a beef with JR while both guys are Americans. I could be wrong on the JR part, but the Mogilny snub is definitely not cool. Hopefully, JR and Mogilny will have their opportunity to be inducted in the HHOF. My former Canadian math professor in grad school high-fived me for knowing about Alexander Mogilny and I've brought up the 2002 Maple Leafs with him. I drew the Maple Leafs logo on my final exam (my first attempt failed and I messed up on the first exam bad and he commented on my awful drawing), and it was drawn nicely, and I made a comeback to honor Mogilny and the blue maples team, passing the advanced linear algebra class. I'm probably the guy in that class that knew about Mogilny and the Maple Leafs given that almost all of my classmates don't watch hockey or any sports. But seriously, Mogilny deserves the nod for the hall of fame and his skills and impact really shows. Overall, the Hockey Hall of Fame have the right choices, but snubbing Mogilny is not.

    • @vikinginsane6770
      @vikinginsane6770 Рік тому

      Barrasso won the Vezina and the Calder in the same season. That alone is impressive

    • @jdmrchem5
      @jdmrchem5 Рік тому

      @@vikinginsane6770 Indeed. Back in the 1980's, there were few American goalies that played in the NHL. Barrasso doing that in 1984 was so unprecedented and Buffalo made the right call on drafting Barrasso out of high school. It's a very high risk gamble that worked. However, Barrasso struggled on his last seasons with Buffalo, and he got traded. Being an 18-year old doing that is so rare. His Hall of Fame is well-deserved.

  • @icewyre
    @icewyre Рік тому +3

    I personally would've done Hank, Brind'Amour, Cujo and Mogilny. Barrasso over Cujo, and even Vernon over him, I don't mind even though I may disagree with the decision. Rod the Bod left out isn't so bad. But Turgeon over Mogilny is really what bothers me.

    • @thomasbusy3632
      @thomasbusy3632 Рік тому

      Turgeon deserved to be there years ago.

    • @icewyre
      @icewyre Рік тому

      @@thomasbusy3632 Perhaps, but not at all ahead of Mogilny

  • @salianni16
    @salianni16 Рік тому +4

    After Mogilny, the next biggest snub for me was Curtis Joseph. He was one of the best goalies of his era and made every team he was with better. I personally consider him to be better than Osgood and Vernon. It's sad that he has had to wait this long to get in along with Mogilny. I don't buy the anti-Russian bias for leaving him out because next year Pavel Datsyuk will be eligible and the voters will be falling all over themselves getting his name on their ballot. I saw both Mogilny and Turgeon play for their entire careers. I say that Mogilny was a lot better player.

    • @matthoffman6962
      @matthoffman6962 11 місяців тому

      Agree 100%! Hope Mogilny and Cujo gets in

  • @Arttu_Viinikka
    @Arttu_Viinikka Рік тому +10

    Rod should be in, if he doesn’t get in as a player, he could go in as a builder for what he’s done to build the Canes franchise

  • @father042
    @father042 Рік тому +2

    I was hoping for Patrik Elias or Butch Goring

  • @straceepic26
    @straceepic26 Рік тому +4

    rod will make it when he’s done coaching prob bc he’s off to a great start as a coach

  • @ethancorner16
    @ethancorner16 Рік тому +2

    When will Chris Osgood be in there it's nuts

  • @Mahoneyyay
    @Mahoneyyay Рік тому +2

    Lundqvist is the star?? Haha what he never won a cup gimme a break

    • @malcolmapplet4313
      @malcolmapplet4313 Рік тому

      IDK why it matters to me more if you're a goalie and never won. It says something. Hank is good yeah, very good. HoF no, not in my book. Despite the suit game. AND I'm a Rags lover.

  • @bwalker77
    @bwalker77 Рік тому +2

    I've seen both Turgeon and Mogilny play, and you can count me among those who would have picked Mogilny if given the choice. He was the most dominant of the two, and would have easily scored 500 goals as well if it hadn't been for the lockouts.

  • @420troll4
    @420troll4 Рік тому +1

    none of the names up for induction deserve to be in a Hall of Fame. But the HHoF was long ago diluted. Hockey Hall of Mediocrity now.

  • @malcolmapplet4313
    @malcolmapplet4313 Рік тому +1

    Datysuk may still be playing so not yet eligible, like Jagr. But that was a great Era with Datysuk on the ice.

  • @MrAndrewCreech
    @MrAndrewCreech Рік тому +1

    I wish more things were a meritocracy.

  • @oddity4all2see
    @oddity4all2see Рік тому +22

    JR should definitely be in the hall of fame. I mean he shattered his jaw twice and didn't quit hockey. Not to mention everything else. Brindmore should also be in there as well. One hell of a player. And a pretty good coach as well. Maybe I'm just biased as a flyers fan

    • @gideonvictor
      @gideonvictor Рік тому +1

      He crossed the picket line during the 05 lockout because he was afraid of wasting a year of his prime. He's the reason the PA folded and we lost a season. Keep him the kcuf out.

    • @The-Dom
      @The-Dom Рік тому +1

      JRoenick: 1363 gp, 513 g, 702 a, +153, 1463 PIM
      Brett Hull: 1269 gp, 741 g, 615 a, +23, 458 PIM
      First ballot numbers, but not the same hardware as Brett. I dont think a team sport should put THAT much weight on the hardest championship to win in all of sports. You cant just ride a Lebron to a championship. You need a deep team.

    • @JackHaveman52
      @JackHaveman52 Рік тому

      @@gideonvictor
      Politics. Keep him out because......Politics. Is there anything about his actual hockey career, NOT his politics that should keep him out? It is the Hockey Hall of Fame...NOT the Hockey Hall of Politics.

    • @gideonvictor
      @gideonvictor Рік тому

      @@JackHaveman52 If someone is the reason that everyone can't play hockey, yeah, keep him out. It's the hockey hall of fame, not the no season because I want numbers hall of fame.

    • @JackHaveman52
      @JackHaveman52 Рік тому

      @@gideonvictor
      Are you kidding me? I don't even know who you're talking about and I just spent 20 minutes combing the internet to figure it out and STILL don't know. That either one of those players is the SOLE cause of that strike is ridiculous just because they wanted to pad their numbers, is the weirdest thing that I've ever heard about striking in any North American sport.
      It was a labour strike. I've been on strike myself. It happens. Lots of guys were out with me. That has nothing to do with their abilities or contribution when they were working, no different than hockey. We're judging them on hockey ABILITY. Not on politics, greed or wanting to pad their numbers. Were they among the best of their era. THAT is the criteria.

  • @evilmotorsports5076
    @evilmotorsports5076 Рік тому +4

    I'd like to see a list of players that Lundquist gave up a player's first NHL goal to. I swear every week we'd see someone get their first against him. That and if he hadn't taken Kevin Weeks' starting job we wouldn't have Weeks' illustrious media career. LOL

  • @ADogWithGlasses00
    @ADogWithGlasses00 Рік тому +1

    What's new 😑

  • @Empericalmonkey
    @Empericalmonkey Рік тому +1

    To be fair...brind 'amour technically isnt done with the NHL. Could still win a cup and just induct him as player/coach.

    • @Kmartsmart
      @Kmartsmart Рік тому

      I think he’ll have success as a coach and eventually get in. Remember though, he did captain the Canes to a cup in 2006

  • @waynejohanson1083
    @waynejohanson1083 Рік тому +1

    Fleury, Roenick, Keith Tkachuk, Dale Hunter should also be in the hall of fame.

  • @xJabro
    @xJabro Рік тому +2

    Datsyuk better be a headliner

  • @chrispantermakis2332
    @chrispantermakis2332 Рік тому +1

    Rob deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

  • @Roochfan20
    @Roochfan20 Рік тому +4

    People are always pissed off at the HHOF selections every year because player X was snubbed in favor of player Y.

    • @kallemetsahalme5701
      @kallemetsahalme5701 Рік тому

      totally. if anything id say the fact they forcibly add people every year shouldnt happen and there are hundreds of players they should remove from there without adding anyone.
      its not a premium thing anymore. but that happens with all hall of fames. they just started the video game hall of fame a few years ago and they are doing the same exact thing. theyre already adding games that are fully debateable whether tomb raider is more deserving than spyro the dragon. either they both deserve or neither, in all meaningful measurements from sales to longevity to recognition theyre identical. likewise if they add mike vernon there are 2000 other players they should add immediately.
      so yea hall of fames are just for shits and giggles. we know guys like mogilny will be added in year 20xx to a thunderous appalause but people are still asking why this and that guy is not there we are waiting. so its just for the gala effect

    • @GDKF0238
      @GDKF0238 Рік тому

      Exactly. Not everyone is gonna be happy. Some gotta suck it up 🤷‍♂️

    • @rivahkillah
      @rivahkillah Рік тому

      That's true, but AlMo should've been in the HoF already.

    • @Jersey209
      @Jersey209 Рік тому

      I agree, but it’s usually not this clear cut though. Mogilny should be a HOFer over 2 of the 3 goalies this year and he’s arguably more deserving than Turgeon as well

  • @hlmfromdao
    @hlmfromdao Рік тому +1

    Rod the bod deserves in. Idc what people say. He deserves it as a coach and a player. He will be there oneday.

  • @cruggs0730
    @cruggs0730 Рік тому +3

    As a Devils fan I gotta say its great to see Hank being inducted, one of the best goaltenders of all time for sure.

  • @battlefronthero3789
    @battlefronthero3789 Рік тому +5

    OSGOOD!!!!! He has a tremendous record and deserves it!

  • @nancyhanna6097
    @nancyhanna6097 Рік тому +2

    YAY ANOTHER VID

  • @khorihorton5207
    @khorihorton5207 Рік тому +1

    Tom Barasso and Mike Vernon we’re Iron Men and while easily forgotten in regards to hall of fame they were know by all hokey fans. I watch hockey religiously, and I couldn’t name 10 current goaltenders even my own goalies names can slipped my mind at times because nobody has been that impressive for a long, long time. One can definitely argue the fact that goalscoring has become a big part of real changes as well as Trying to increase pace of play which makes it more exciting and more likely that an error can be made for the opposite team to take advantage of so there’s lots of reasons why goaltenders of the past may have appeared to be ridiculous but the 90s goaltender arrow was a crazy era for goaltending on top of all the expansion teams that came in over a 15 year. Around that time frame lots of new goalies were needed that may not have ever been much if they hadn’t had extra teams to need a primary goalie on. That was right around the time that some of the team started to play with having to quality goaltenders And now it’s very common for teams to have two extremely good goaltenders. Are used to be that you only had one goalie that played in 90% of the games throughout the year and another goalie that basically played almost never. In one of your other videos, mentions Chelios playing for something like 50 years. Well, these two goaltenders might not have had as many seasons under their belt when they retired as Chelios, but they weren’t that far off either. Thinking of goaltenders at that time in history. Wow goalies were pretty cool back then. but I’m not even looking this is just memory from that part of history, Dominik Hasek, John Vanbiesbrouck, Felix Potvin, Mike Vernon, Kelly Hrudey, Patrick Roy, ed Belfour, Ron Hextall, grant Fuhr, Martin Brodeur Curtis Joseph, mike Richter, Shawn Burke, Trevor kid, Chris Osgood, Ron, Tugnutt, Kirk McLean Andy Moog, Bill Ranford, Arthur Irbe. I’m sure there’s more I’m forgetting and that just covers the 90s. Yes some of these were definitely ending their career in the early 90s and some of these were barely starting their careers and some were in their prime but all in all, I can barely remember the names of that many goaltenders from the new millennium of any era, but I remember watching every goalie. I mentioned above play amazing hockey, many times, and do moves that now would probably get them suspended for a season lolol the problem is many of these goalies are already in the Hall of Fame and all of these goalies had ridiculous statistics the best of these to the worst of these we’re not that far separated obviously some like Hasek, Brodeur, and Roy where are some of the best goaltenders in all of the hockey history, but the rest of the list probably had statistics that were almost identical. Vernon and Barrasso , Borrasso probably had some of the worst statistics out of the entire list, but he did win back to back Stanley cubs when Mario Lemieux was at his prime and Pittsburgh had a dynasty being the lead goaltender of a dynasty kind of guarantees a Hall of Fame position eventually, once they run out of goaltenders with all of the statistics and accolades from that era.

    • @khorihorton5207
      @khorihorton5207 Рік тому

      Alexander Mogilny, and Pierre Turgeon happen to be two of the most well-known names of their time but Mogilny was by far the star and best player of any team he played for, and one of the most well-known names in the NHL in that era. The 90s were a ridiculous era for hockey. It was some of the best hockey ever in all of NHL history in my opinion. And like I said, in my above comment, I watch hockey religiously. Most of these players were true Standoe players well above the rest in the NHL nowadays well there happens to be a heck of a lot more goals. The pace is much faster, and it’s overall almost more exciting in many cases. Other than the Ovechkin‘s and the Crosby‘s in the NHL. You’re talking about the Gretzky era right now, and there was a hell of a lot of good players at that time in hockey. Nowadays, when I recognize many many names, it just seems like players are a bit more evenly matched I guess? it’s hard to explain. Every team had five players you could automatically call to mind immediately when you knew they were coming to town now I just recognize the names of players as they’re announced or they score a goal or I see their name on their jersey or the commentators mention them there’s much less Apex players, it feels like? Maybe it’s just that the average player is much better than the average player was back then so the Apex players stood out and became easily recognized and extremely well known throughout the entire league by fans from every team.

    • @khorihorton5207
      @khorihorton5207 Рік тому

      And I honestly think basically, every single name you mentioned on the video actually deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. They were all extremely well-known, and not just buy their own fans Ronica was a stand out, and one of the most known names in hockey by fans and non-hockey fans as well. Well he had somewhat of a bad reputation he’s another player that played in his 40s and definitely definitely should be in the hall. Every other name that I haven’t mentioned in my book I’ve written should be in the Hall of Fame if there was in one name that I disagree with or better yet one name I was forced to pick not to include did actually probably would be Pierre I’m not because he doesn’t deserve to be there, but because out of every player mention throughout this video, I think he’s the least deserving and he still get my vote lolol

  • @Sandman60077
    @Sandman60077 Рік тому

    Brind'amore was was a good player, and some years a really good player, he's not a great player though. His numbers are a little above average, but nothing overly special. He was just a good solid player with a long career. I think he's one of those guys who falls short of being a HOF'er.

  • @Pittsburgh-Kid.
    @Pittsburgh-Kid. 7 місяців тому

    BRUH Why isn't Kovalchuk in the HOF!?!?!

  • @nicklasveva
    @nicklasveva Рік тому +1

    If Hitler came back to life and scored more goals than Gretzky, he would deserve a place in the hall of fame. No one should be excluded for political reasons. This is about who has been the best or most influencial. Excluding russian players is so dumb if it happens. They are not fighting Ukraine, they are playing hockey.

    • @GDKF0238
      @GDKF0238 Рік тому

      What the fuck? 💀

    • @GDKF0238
      @GDKF0238 Рік тому

      This hypothetical is insane, however, Hitler being banned would be entirely just. He’s the reason 6 million people are dead. He was a genocidal maniac.
      While I don’t agree with punishing Russian players for simply being Russian, I would agree with punishing Putin if he decided to (hypothetically) play on the NHL’s ice.
      Above all else, have a nice day.

    • @nicklasveva
      @nicklasveva Рік тому +1

      @@GDKF0238 he's a bad guy, therefore he isn't allowed in sports? What's the argument here?

  • @Ockhamsbarber2392
    @Ockhamsbarber2392 Рік тому

    Meanwhile there is Lorne Chabot from the 1930s...

  • @23mylo60
    @23mylo60 Рік тому +1

    Hockey hall of “Fame” yet nobody’s heard of half the players💀 this league is turning into such a joke

  • @mystreteacher
    @mystreteacher Рік тому +1

    Roenick was a knucklehead like Keith Tkachuk. Did great things, but hurt their teams at key moments.

  • @josec.quintos9247
    @josec.quintos9247 10 місяців тому

    I agree specially since Mike Richter keeps being snubbed after beating The Mighty Team Canada at the 1996 World Cup of Hockey, arent credentials include winning the cup people forget that without his stopping of Pavel Bure's penalty shootout in Game 6 of 1994 Cup Finals Finals and i guess since after winning the Cup in 94 to help beat a formidable Team Canada in the 96 world cup of Hockey i guess the Hall of Fame would rather Forget that event and erase Mike Richter from memory

  • @matthoffman6962
    @matthoffman6962 11 місяців тому

    Datsyuk, Mogilny, Cujo, Kiprusoff should all be in imo

  • @BarryMaple
    @BarryMaple Рік тому

    Overall, it's an average HOF class. The only inductee I question is Mike Vernon. Everyone is quick to note he "won" two Stanley Cups and a Conn Smythe, but so do many average players. A Conn Smythe doesn't make a player a Hall of Famer to begin with; moreover, Vernon's was debatable. During that run in 1997, he was actually outplayed in two--arguably all three--series leading up to the Finals, despite the Wings coming out on the winning end. (The Conn Smythe probably should have gone to Fedorov, IMO.) He was still great, and was great in '89 as well, but in both cases, he had a highly loaded team in front of him. Most of the games his teams won with him in net were due to offense, not giving up a lot of shots, or both. In other words, he wasn't really the difference between winning and losing most of the time.

  • @fratzogmopars
    @fratzogmopars Рік тому

    The Hockey Hall of Fame is approaching the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame status by snubbing Jeremy Roenick.

  • @ethanparker7900
    @ethanparker7900 Рік тому

    When will they get Mogilny in??????? Rod the Bod, Keith Tkachuk and Vinny Lecavalier should be in too but Mogilny has been the arguably the biggest snub this generation!!!! When will they stop playing games with some of these people?

  • @blakeley38
    @blakeley38 Рік тому +1

    When I played hockey as a kid my coach had us get community hours by working at the hockey hall of fame . Totally picked up the cup as we had to be there before it opened maybe not the real one but whatever 👍👍👍👍💯

  • @ryanburnham1932
    @ryanburnham1932 Рік тому

    This is a controversial take but; if politics in North America weren't what they are, a Russian with a great historical record would be inducted over a player with only international success and experience(of course talking about the woman that was inducted). I love women's hockey and have attended many games in person, officiated some high level games as well, but no female player in the Hockey Hall of Fame could have competed in the NHL. We see Female players being inducted that exceled at their level of play but not KHL standouts who are still more talented and playing a higher level of hockey because of politics saying women need to be included but we should exclude Russians.

  • @SangdaleDiscGolf
    @SangdaleDiscGolf Рік тому

    Hey Eck!
    I don’t know if you’ll see this but tomorrow I’m driving 9 hours from Quebec City to Halifax.
    I’m a huge fan of the channel & I’d love to get the chance to meet you!

  • @MrBlk4
    @MrBlk4 Рік тому

    Isnt it obvious the reason Mogilny isnt in? Are people not allowed to say it?
    The first defector from Russia isnt allowed to be honored. Thats.....the only possible reason. Lol.
    Its surely complicated to incoporate such different countries into one league, but are people not allowed to say it? Even on youtube? Wtf?

  • @SchuperNaturalistic
    @SchuperNaturalistic Рік тому +1

    Mogilny was a big reason why I choose the Leafs as my team than Cujo and his wolf mask made me want to be a goalie; before that we had Ray Bourque and the Avalanche winning the cup. 00-01

  • @timjummichuck
    @timjummichuck Рік тому

    Vernon and Barrasso deserve it. They were both cup winning and cup contending goalies who dominated the sport for a time. Roenick just pissed too many people off but he deserves it as well. Lundqvist doesn't deserve it if the others don't. He won a vezina and had great regular seasons but he wasn't a cup goalie. He never won anything. I agree Brind'Amour was a big part of hockey for a long time and he won a cup at the end of a long and great career and should be there.

  • @DarkKirby14LP
    @DarkKirby14LP Рік тому

    Chris Osgood not being in is a criminal offense

  • @penguin44ca
    @penguin44ca Рік тому

    I will tell you this. Many many years ago when he was a Leaf. He was caught sleeping with Shane Corsons wife. He was accosted by Darcy Tucker and eventually lost all his friends on that team. Including Gartner. However many other teams have said no one like him but he is talented.