Thank you! You’re one of the few people I’ve seen mention how bad IBIS can be with panning. Its also the same with handheld. When going handheld, ibis does make it more “stable” but those jitters are just as bad as shaky footage in my opinion. The best look is ibis OFF with a heavy rig, but of course thats not always a good option
Finally a great video on this subject. Many thanks for your time and effort Joris! For real estate video - straight walk through with gimbal I will use Active or Standard Steady Shot. For pan or tilt shots with Gimbal, will follow your suggestion to turn OFF stabilisation. I also read in Sony A7Siii manual to switch OFF Steady Shot when using tripod. So I assume when using tripod + fluid head or slider the Steady Shot should be OFF.
For me, it would be a good practice to just turn it off and just stabilize the video more in post. Stabilizing an almost already stabilized video would only cost a little bit of cropping and quality lost anyway. But I agree, people have different opinion on this and what I told is what works for me.
such a big difference I alwasy turn if off beacsue I thought it would fight it. my footage with the gimball always looked like a tiny wobble was there. I going to to try tomoorow with the standard setting and see how that goes. I dont normanl y make a lot of sudden movements anyways. Thansk a lot for the comaparsion shots!
"Welcome back to the Belgian wilderness. Meh." Truck drives by at 3:05. 🤣🤣 Love it: Dedication is UA-camr with $6K-US of equipment in wilderness- in rain- on bicycle! Joris, you crack me up, man! And that's why I subscribed months ago! But wait! That's not all- I learn great stuff. I have a Weebil 2 I have not even put on my a7IV yet, nor have I ever used a Gimbal, and now I know what to do with IBIS while Gimbal-ing. Good to know, very helpful, and the effort you put in to bring us this knowledge is outrageous! Thank You! ⭐x5
Exactly! had the same issues. Very disappointing. Wish I knew this sooner! I think the key here is panning, tilting and video camera movements. Many people on here not getting the point of the video saying they "leave it on" Yeah its great for stabilizing STATIC hand held shooting. Not video.
That's the first time, that I hear that the active stabilization could be limited to Sony glass. Most of the time, I use my Tamron 28-75 and it works just fine - even with the 35-150 mm. When I received my A7IV I did not recognize, that the focal settings of the stabilization where set wrong / not on auto. This resulted in veeery wobbly footage and I thought 'this couldn't be the IBIS they promised me' 😅 but after I found out and set it to 'auto' everything works fine and I sacrifice the crop on the active stabilization for that extra stability. Btw: did you use your mist filter for the camera menu shots?
And what about on nikon z6 it is on or off for gimbal Like i m using 50mm 1.4g on z6 and weebill s Whats ur suggestion for this can i on vr or off vr ? Normal?
Great video 👍 I have IBIS always on in standard because if it is off the censor is not level and can jump up and down. I learn'd the hard way when I was taking photos in timelapse mode and the censor moved some times when the shutter curtain moved.
Seriously? I shot an entire wedding with standard on at 24mm - 50mm'ish on my DJI RS2 and didn't notice any jerking or unintentional movement. Is it really in standard too? I get active since it's on the digital end but damn I'm going to have to put it through the ringer and see if it hits standard too!
Yea its definitely noticeable on Standard IBIS too. You can get away with it on wider lenses with not much camera movements. But when you use longer lenses and are panning or moving alot, the jitters are there…ive spent hourse trying to eliminate them in post but nothing helped. Its funny because your eyes get used to the jittery footage. It wasn’t until a friend of mine pointed it out when he used my camera once. I cant unsee it now
I used to know someone who suffered from IBS. Sad really, especially on long trips or going to the movies. Went like a goose. It wasn't very focused though, all over the place. Oh wait, you said IBIS. Oops...
"UA-cam has ruined real time video"... THANK YOU! I can't handle it anymore. People are so lazy they put slow-mo in everything. There is no dialogue anymore. Just Slow-mo with crappy soft eletro-music. All videos just seem like a big AD for something meaningless.
How can I tell if my IBIS works as i should? Im using the a7 III with the Sony 24-105 f4, and the stabilisation is kind of....very bad. Tried another a7 III with at Sigma 100-400 and the stabilisation was spot on! (i was trulu impressed - and that on 400 mm!!). My question: Is the stabilisation on the 24-105 bad, or could there be anything wrong with the IBIS of the camera? Any way to check that with the only lens I have? (and do the stabilisation in the lens work together with the a7 III IBIS, or does it work by itself only?) A bit dissapointed really... =/
One day you should go back out and re-do this test but screw it in properly, be really scientific about this :) Don't want vibrations affecting the test
I only ask, because in my personal opinion, the footage at 5:44 - none of that is usable to me... it's all out of focus and it's just motion blur, so I was wondering if this is because the ibis is having to work too hard because of vibrations ? Or is that just how the a7siii is supposed to perform?
I'm thinking about buying a gimbal for my smartphone instead of a camera and save quite a lot of money to improve my videos. Simply cause camera seem to launch themselves in space about pricing
new to hand held video. didnt know this, and had been using gimbals and a video fluid head recently and oh my god, terrible results! Nikon Z6II and I didnt realize the NIKON VR would actually hinder the process of making smooth camera movements. Pretty bummed because I lost a whole day of footage due to this. Looked great as I was making the shots. Got home to edit and was quite disappointed at the results.
Hey Joris I made an Affordable Super Saiyan Aura around my body, but I'm not able to track it. I used Normal Tracker going to match move setting, It didn't work out. I used Planar Tracker as well. Couldn't get any results can you help me out. ?? drive.google.com/file/d/1623FqpHaaNjBCp5FyaTNPCskbEWKnm6q/view?usp=share_link
Thank you! You’re one of the few people I’ve seen mention how bad IBIS can be with panning. Its also the same with handheld. When going handheld, ibis does make it more “stable” but those jitters are just as bad as shaky footage in my opinion.
The best look is ibis OFF with a heavy rig, but of course thats not always a good option
Finally a great video on this subject. Many thanks for your time and effort Joris! For real estate video - straight walk through with gimbal I will use Active or Standard Steady Shot. For pan or tilt shots with Gimbal, will follow your suggestion to turn OFF stabilisation. I also read in Sony A7Siii manual to switch OFF Steady Shot when using tripod. So I assume when using tripod + fluid head or slider the Steady Shot should be OFF.
You did me a great favour. I think IBIS + Standard gave the most organic results. Active oversmoothern it and looks artificial.
💯 Only use Active in specific situations 🤝🔥
1:53 I totally agree, slo-mo is everywhere and overly used.
Completely agree with you about slow motion being overused everywhere
For me, it would be a good practice to just turn it off and just stabilize the video more in post. Stabilizing an almost already stabilized video would only cost a little bit of cropping and quality lost anyway. But I agree, people have different opinion on this and what I told is what works for me.
but you will get a lot of blur with low shutterspeed.
very interesting and useful information. thank you
I wish to take classes with this pro for color grading..davinci resolve
This helped me a lot. Thanks man.
such a big difference I alwasy turn if off beacsue I thought it would fight it. my footage with the gimball always looked like a tiny wobble was there. I going to to try tomoorow with the standard setting and see how that goes. I dont normanl y make a lot of sudden movements anyways. Thansk a lot for the comaparsion shots!
"Welcome back to the Belgian wilderness. Meh." Truck drives by at 3:05. 🤣🤣 Love it: Dedication is UA-camr with $6K-US of equipment in wilderness- in rain- on bicycle! Joris, you crack me up, man! And that's why I subscribed months ago! But wait! That's not all- I learn great stuff. I have a Weebil 2 I have not even put on my a7IV yet, nor have I ever used a Gimbal, and now I know what to do with IBIS while Gimbal-ing. Good to know, very helpful, and the effort you put in to bring us this knowledge is outrageous! Thank You! ⭐x5
Active stabilization works fine in my Sony a7iv with the Tamron 28-75
Yet another cool and educational video! 👍🙌
Good video, explains why I was getting some jerky footage on my car rig. Lol,looks good in real time untill you upload the footage to edit 😂
Exactly! had the same issues. Very disappointing. Wish I knew this sooner! I think the key here is panning, tilting and video camera movements. Many people on here not getting the point of the video saying they "leave it on" Yeah its great for stabilizing STATIC hand held shooting. Not video.
That's the first time, that I hear that the active stabilization could be limited to Sony glass. Most of the time, I use my Tamron 28-75 and it works just fine - even with the 35-150 mm.
When I received my A7IV I did not recognize, that the focal settings of the stabilization where set wrong / not on auto. This resulted in veeery wobbly footage and I thought 'this couldn't be the IBIS they promised me' 😅 but after I found out and set it to 'auto' everything works fine and I sacrifice the crop on the active stabilization for that extra stability.
Btw: did you use your mist filter for the camera menu shots?
No, shot the menu with my canon m50. No filter. I guess it's the cheap glass making it all bloomy and glowy 🤔
@@JorisHermans 😅 yes, that's why I'm asking. As a pro UA-cam, you should definitely buy a FX6 for those camera menu shots 😎👌
@@eike.zender 😅 it's on my wish list 💯
with the A7S3 together with the Zeiss Batis 18mm/2.8 there was uncorrectable wave-like shaking with switched on IBIS and Steadyshot
Nice video Bro! I used to have this doubt and now it is totally clear. Thanks!
“UA-cam Has Ruined Real Time Video” should have been the title of this video lol
🤔 I'll make another one with that title. Thanks for the idea 🫡🙏🏻
Get video just what I was looking for
using sigms 24 70 2.8 with fx3 and this is ok with active mode
Good information
I was 100% expecting a beef jerky sponsor segment when you said you like beef jerky.
Hey Jack Link's, you readin' this? 🤔😎
thank you
In my Sony A7IV and Tamron 25-200 F/2.8-5.6 Di III RXD active IBIS is working without problems
And what about on nikon z6 it is on or off for gimbal
Like i m using 50mm 1.4g on z6 and weebill s
Whats ur suggestion for this can i on vr or off vr ? Normal?
Gyro stabilization is the answer! ;)
Nah, cause it can't handle normal shutter speeds and motion blur. 😵
@@JorisHermans if you use it properly, the results are amazing.
It's terrible to use Gyroat at night.
If making car broll fast pace, the trending one. Turn ibis active or off? Please suggest
I would say OFF.
@@JorisHermans thanks friend 👍
Excellent!
active stab works with all my lenses from Sigma ane Tamron
Great video 👍 I have IBIS always on in standard because if it is off the censor is not level and can jump up and down. I learn'd the hard way when I was taking photos in timelapse mode and the censor moved some times when the shutter curtain moved.
Seriously? I shot an entire wedding with standard on at 24mm - 50mm'ish on my DJI RS2 and didn't notice any jerking or unintentional movement. Is it really in standard too? I get active since it's on the digital end but damn I'm going to have to put it through the ringer and see if it hits standard too!
Yea its definitely noticeable on Standard IBIS too. You can get away with it on wider lenses with not much camera movements. But when you use longer lenses and are panning or moving alot, the jitters are there…ive spent hourse trying to eliminate them in post but nothing helped. Its funny because your eyes get used to the jittery footage. It wasn’t until a friend of mine pointed it out when he used my camera once. I cant unsee it now
I used to know someone who suffered from IBS. Sad really, especially on long trips or going to the movies. Went like a goose. It wasn't very focused though, all over the place. Oh wait, you said IBIS. Oops...
🙃😅
Active gives artifacts on wider than 20mm, I think thats why its turned off
"UA-cam has ruined real time video"... THANK YOU! I can't handle it anymore. People are so lazy they put slow-mo in everything. There is no dialogue anymore. Just Slow-mo with crappy soft eletro-music. All videos just seem like a big AD for something meaningless.
Nuttig. Groetjes uit Nederland.
How can I tell if my IBIS works as i should? Im using the a7 III with the Sony 24-105 f4, and the stabilisation is kind of....very bad. Tried another a7 III with at Sigma 100-400 and the stabilisation was spot on! (i was trulu impressed - and that on 400 mm!!). My question: Is the stabilisation on the 24-105 bad, or could there be anything wrong with the IBIS of the camera? Any way to check that with the only lens I have? (and do the stabilisation in the lens work together with the a7 III IBIS, or does it work by itself only?) A bit dissapointed really... =/
Truth is the a7iii stabilization is bad, i have 2 a7iii and u literally can t shoot handheld with em, but they are good on a gimbal tho
Stabilization tends to work better in narrow focal distances (+35mm) and worst in wide ones (-35mm).
Always so helpful - cheers, Joris 🙏🏻.
You could really notice the differences between shots.
Thanks man #beefjerkyrocks 🤟🤣
In my experience I always leave at standard, definately not active.
The only right answer here is, the trusty fly cam and for handheld heavy rig.
Anyway you stop ranting... Naaa... You'd rant about not ranting ahahahaah ^^
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1:49 😂😂😁😁
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@@JorisHermans Slomo 😊
One day you should go back out and re-do this test but screw it in properly, be really scientific about this :) Don't want vibrations affecting the test
I only ask, because in my personal opinion, the footage at 5:44 - none of that is usable to me... it's all out of focus and it's just motion blur, so I was wondering if this is because the ibis is having to work too hard because of vibrations ? Or is that just how the a7siii is supposed to perform?
Sad Me trying to make up my mind to say “ IBIS is Jerky “ as my A6400 does not have any stabilization
I'm thinking about buying a gimbal for my smartphone instead of a camera and save quite a lot of money to improve my videos.
Simply cause camera seem to launch themselves in space about pricing
new to hand held video. didnt know this, and had been using gimbals and a video fluid head recently and oh my god, terrible results! Nikon Z6II and I didnt realize the NIKON VR would actually hinder the process of making smooth camera movements. Pretty bummed because I lost a whole day of footage due to this. Looked great as I was making the shots. Got home to edit and was quite disappointed at the results.
Vr on or off when u r shooting ?
I have z6 and weebill s and I m using 50mm 1.4g lens
I m confused what I do some guys are Saying vr off from camera when taking shots on Weebill s ..
First
Slow motion sucks
Like, but will not watch
😭😅
I noticed that sometimes the camera was out of focus while talking.i thought sony is best of auto focus.
I think it's because I keep moving around too much with my arms and hands 😅
Definitely helps clarifying the IBIS, I always turned it off cuz it was recommended by a lot and so no regret. @enerico.jr
Hey Joris I made an Affordable Super Saiyan Aura around my body, but I'm not able to track it. I used Normal Tracker going to match move setting, It didn't work out. I used Planar Tracker as well. Couldn't get any results can you help me out. ?? drive.google.com/file/d/1623FqpHaaNjBCp5FyaTNPCskbEWKnm6q/view?usp=share_link