+milestehmad117 That's exactly what I was thinking its all bla bla bla till we actually see! at one point he spoke of using a laser but as we all know there is only so fast you can move the laser moving along it x y axis's and non pilling is not a big thing to solve, I do it with a pla printed vat with 3mm glace covered with window weather shrink wrap film on my dlp printer. I would of like to have seen it in action considering the length of the interview according to what he says, he could of printed on out.
It seems like you could lay out some glass fiber, cover it with resin, hit it with the laser, and bam, fiber reinforced composite with complicated geometry. You could weave on some layers too.
I have one small issue with his idea with the laser, "move it down and I have four times the area than previously." Except that laser point has the possibility of being wider once you go from 1M to 2M, depending on the laser. Just thought I'd throw that out there. The laser may be fine however, or the width might be small enough to have no impact. The makers of Peachy Printer made a canoe using their laser-resin printer, and they noted the deformity of the laser point at the wider points of the print that caused slight distortion to the final product. I'd also like to mention that different resins might cure at different wavelengths of light. If resin A cures at wavelength x, resin B cures at wavelength y, and resin C cures at wavelength z, but you only have a laser that outputs wavelength x; Resin A cures, resin B may partially cure, and resin C doesn't cure at all. See the problem? Now scale that up to each individual company, he mentions 2, plus his own, there's Carbon, and there were a few different kickstarters I remember, then probably even more. If they all cure at different wavelengths, a laser that only outputs the wavelength for one of them will cause issues. Also, on a side note, will any of this be open source or hackable? I'd be interested in trying out some ideas if it is.
***** Dot size depends on focus. Resins also have the possibility of curing at different wavelengths. But I found a completely different issue with this. According to their website, the machine uses a projector, not lasers.
+Fargo 3D Printing thanks for the reply. my sarcasm didn't come through very clear. :) That said the tech is awesome. it's amazing how far 3d printing has come.
He neglects the fact that you get laser beam divergence so the further away the source is, the less accurate the print is... unless he's somehow able to collimate the beam multiple times? Which I doubt you could do using a galvo/dead zone set up... I'm very dubious
+Fargo 3D Printing you'd still have the same issue, dlp is based on image resolution so yeah sure you'd be able to print it but your resolution would decrease the larger the volume. He talks about large build volumes using lasers instead of projectors from Cambridge photonics which is why I assumed the galvo arrangement because they make laser projectors and not dlp devices. The beam divergence would result in a spot size of 700-800 microns (and possibly even more) in diameter for a large build area (1m x 1m), so I don't know if they are somehow correcting the light for such a large build volume or whether you're stuck with a less accurate build the larger the model gets
"we don't have size limitations, we can print something 1m by 1m by 1m" that's a size limitation..... I will forgive him because english may not be his first language(judging entirely by accent) its an impressive machine, well done sir.
+philip bicknell He also mentions printing wind turbine blades that are 25 feet long and, also later on, he talks about printing a kayak thats 8 feet long. So yeah, I'm sure the 1m x 1m x 1m was just a small example on how much bigger it can print.
+philip bicknell - Please watch full video before commenting, he mentioned can build a kayak with it & also as others mentioned even something as big as 25 feet or longer.
You clearly didnt listen. He gave an example saying "IF" you wanted something 1x1x1 meter they can do it. He alsoi went on to say that the distance of the laser determines the size an object can be. ;)
in fact every sla technology has his own photosensitive resin it will depend of many determining factor you don t use the same if you work on laser or led techno but it s not that simple because every intensity size power............etc are different in laser led and every process associated and it s not innocent, if those parameters are never the same This allows manufacturers to foreclose the market and forcing his customers to purchased and keep on buying the consumables.from them
What does this sentence mean? "Utilising the NP1 for the production of end-use parts, however, is the goal. The company’s beta partners over the next few months, before shipping commences in Q4 2018, will help the company put the capabilities of its $90,000 machine to the test to determine what applications can work and what can’t." I mean that 90000$ value.
I'm failing to understand how this printer actually works, he says that it can print any resin in a large space, but the machine is quite small, is the printer made up of two pieces that work together, or is he implying that you have to manually glue multiple smaller pieces together?
Beautiful. Nowdays, for every huge company, there is now a smaller one that does the same thing better and cheaper. Oxygen permeable glass? HAHA Carbon was being so mysterious about their secret technology, but that's all it is? Hey instead of a projector or laser, why not an LCD screen? So does it still print in layers really fast, or is it seamless like Carbon?
LOOKS LIKE THIS IS A FAKE COMPANY!!! january 15th lanch date past, no launch no photos no product, no lab... if you check their website, you can see that the product they are LAUNCHING is a raytraced photorealistic graphics model of a prototype and that nothing of the kind has been built for genuine real company photos. they are fake!!! ... on their facebook they have started to attend medical industry events to print skulls on their huge 3d printer which probably uses no new technology different from carbon3d.
I'm about 95% certain that I how they are doing this, and the way they create the deadzone is incredibly simple. They reason they are not selling a machine is probably two-fold. 1) They know they don't have have the clout to manipulate the patent office to grant a real patent on something that is so obvious that it should not be patentable. Only a company with a huge herd of lawyers - like StrataSys or 3DSystems has done this, and can do this again. 2) They know they don't have the resources to sue and instill fear into a hundred companies who would quickly adopt their very simple technique. US patent laws are also widely ignored by Asian manufactures. Once the "secret" gets out, lots of people with opensource/homebrew SLA printers will be doing it. It requires little or no modifications to the machine to make it work. There is nothing they can do about that.
Fargo 3D Printing Thanks for the reply! Well that's both good and bad news. Kind of like Carbon 3D, amazing technology that is only available to the rich. :/
Haha, the interview was so curious and speechless that he fumbles because he's so excited because we got so little info in the end. Don't worry I don't blame you! All in all, we can print vertically, any size and with any resin. More importantly when and how much? Carbon 3D is obviously a rubbish company that shot itself in its foot? Came out with their technology 3 yrs ago stating how they were going to change the world very soon and every one will have one of its printers on their desktop. And recently same out with their printer $144K or somthing? Yeah right, I'll bet they'll be bankrupt within 3 yrs. Hope NEWPro3D doesn't take too long and takes the lead from now with affordable printers very soon on the market or else it'll be another Carbon3D. The Chinese companies aren't going to give you a break if they come up with something similar at a tenth of the cost!
+sam a I don't see how it shot itself in the foot when it secured partnerships with both Ford AND GE. These companies aren't looking to make 'affordable printers'. They're looking to make the fastest ones.
I only see fine detail objects being printed, minimum surface area and certainly no flat or solid objects or even an object with say a 2mm wall thickness, a continuous printer like this cannot do it, I wonder if Diego knows this when he talks of a 1m x 1m object. I'm not sure what the market is for a 1m x 1m veroni sphere or even a 50mm sphere? Print some real dimensionally accurate prototypes using this tech and I will be impressed, until then unfortunately this is just a giant DLP printer with a small build volume, nothing special... hopefully the vat design is something special but alas they want to keep it a secret so us consumers can't make an informed decision during purchase...sigh.
I spent 1000 dollars 2 years ago and have 2 Dual Laser Preach 3D printers that don't work yet and they have sent me no resin to use. I an trying to get a model company off the ground, and the F king Weed Eater String Melters wont do what I want them to. I need to print big for the masters. If I have to sand it down afterwards then I might as well jest make the stuff with a Mill and a lathe. So until all these brain surgeons get something that really works ant doesn't cost 10,000 dollars then I will machine it the old fashion way.
Well, I hope to hell that it all comes to fruition in the end. In the Mean time I will do it the old way, and if these printers were working now I probably would have that kind of money. that was the point. I could beta test it before it becomes a 50 dollar toaster that the whole world can buy off the shelf in Wall Mart.
Tony Montana of 3D printers lol....walks up to Stratasys ..."Fuck FDM and fuck your SLA division, I bury those cockroaches" lol
This guy reminds me of a car sales man....
+dukat03 or someone in the mafia...lol.
GB3770 lmao
ok.. so, and this is just me, but why waste so much time just recording a sales pitch, and not include a video of the device actually at work?
+Ajay Kumar The salesman also owns the company and helped develop the printer, so theres that too.
This guy's verbal communication has cheesey car salesman written all over it.
I LIKE THIS GUY...I WOULD INVEST WITH THIS GUY IN A HEARTBEAT!!!!
This guy for president! Now! Also, can you print a full-sized human body with elastic resin?
+SuperCape don't tell me you're gonna print "that" doll..
+chochochochobi ... OK.. You got me there.. I wanna print a full sized Trump, all for me :-)
SuperCape well, that's unexpected xD
Not even going to ask what that is for.
Watching Carbon3D - I was like, Meh, what ever...
Watching NewPro - wooooooooooow!
I saw an early 3d printer at U of L way before many people knew about them and it was MASSIVE!
If it was so little time to print why not print for you in the interview?
+Fargo 3D Printing
While i am very hopeful there claims are true, The fact they have not recorded a full length print concerns me
+milestehmad117 That's exactly what I was thinking its all bla bla bla till we actually see! at one point he spoke of using a laser but as we all know there is only so fast you can move the laser moving along it x y axis's and non pilling is not a big thing to solve, I do it with a pla printed vat with 3mm glace covered with window weather shrink wrap film on my dlp printer. I would of like to have seen it in action considering the length of the interview according to what he says, he could of printed on out.
That does make perfect sense.
That guy is intense.
+Engineering Nonsense Heheheh do you think he is hectically on to something or is he a crack head :DD:D:
It seems like you could lay out some glass fiber, cover it with resin, hit it with the laser, and bam, fiber reinforced composite with complicated geometry. You could weave on some layers too.
aha, and please an example for printing. We want to see this speed.
I'll take two
it's true there is a TED Talk that builds complex items during the presentation
How come we haven't heard anything more on this?
I have one small issue with his idea with the laser, "move it down and I have four times the area than previously." Except that laser point has the possibility of being wider once you go from 1M to 2M, depending on the laser. Just thought I'd throw that out there. The laser may be fine however, or the width might be small enough to have no impact. The makers of Peachy Printer made a canoe using their laser-resin printer, and they noted the deformity of the laser point at the wider points of the print that caused slight distortion to the final product.
I'd also like to mention that different resins might cure at different wavelengths of light. If resin A cures at wavelength x, resin B cures at wavelength y, and resin C cures at wavelength z, but you only have a laser that outputs wavelength x; Resin A cures, resin B may partially cure, and resin C doesn't cure at all. See the problem? Now scale that up to each individual company, he mentions 2, plus his own, there's Carbon, and there were a few different kickstarters I remember, then probably even more. If they all cure at different wavelengths, a laser that only outputs the wavelength for one of them will cause issues.
Also, on a side note, will any of this be open source or hackable? I'd be interested in trying out some ideas if it is.
***** Dot size depends on focus.
Resins also have the possibility of curing at different wavelengths.
But I found a completely different issue with this. According to their website, the machine uses a projector, not lasers.
This guy is like: Just when I thought I was out...the 3D printers pulled me back in.
This guy and his printer are badass
So does he have to develop his own resin or can he use other people's resins? He wasn't quite clear about that..
+Fargo 3D Printing thanks for the reply. my sarcasm didn't come through very clear. :) That said the tech is awesome. it's amazing how far 3d printing has come.
He neglects the fact that you get laser beam divergence so the further away the source is, the less accurate the print is... unless he's somehow able to collimate the beam multiple times? Which I doubt you could do using a galvo/dead zone set up... I'm very dubious
+Fargo 3D Printing you'd still have the same issue, dlp is based on image resolution so yeah sure you'd be able to print it but your resolution would decrease the larger the volume. He talks about large build volumes using lasers instead of projectors from Cambridge photonics which is why I assumed the galvo arrangement because they make laser projectors and not dlp devices. The beam divergence would result in a spot size of 700-800 microns (and possibly even more) in diameter for a large build area (1m x 1m), so I don't know if they are somehow correcting the light for such a large build volume or whether you're stuck with a less accurate build the larger the model gets
looks great $$$$$$$$$???????
"we don't have size limitations, we can print something 1m by 1m by 1m"
that's a size limitation.....
I will forgive him because english may not be his first language(judging entirely by accent)
its an impressive machine, well done sir.
+philip bicknell He also mentions printing wind turbine blades that are 25 feet long and, also later on, he talks about printing a kayak thats 8 feet long. So yeah, I'm sure the 1m x 1m x 1m was just a small example on how much bigger it can print.
+philip bicknell - Please watch full video before commenting, he mentioned can build a kayak with it & also as others mentioned even something as big as 25 feet or longer.
You clearly didnt listen. He gave an example saying "IF" you wanted something 1x1x1 meter they can do it. He alsoi went on to say that the distance of the laser determines the size an object can be. ;)
did anybody else notice he said " we have no size limitations" and then "we can print an object 1 meter by 1 meter by 1 meter" 😂😂
Grizzly - Agar and more it was an example, he then later said he can print wind turbines and kayaks.
Is this idea taken from Carbon3D.
so........ clear something up. Can this guy use any type of resin?
in fact every sla technology has his own photosensitive resin it will depend of many determining factor
you don t use the same if you work on laser or led techno but it s not that simple because every intensity size power............etc are different in laser led and every process associated and it s not innocent, if those parameters are never the same This allows manufacturers to foreclose the market and forcing his customers to purchased and keep on buying the consumables.from them
heh, try imagine talking about a technology but not being allowed to talk about it.
How much does it cost for the printer?
it's just a dlp with a uv bulb.
Hello, What does he mean by the dead zone? It'd be really interesting to know, thanks!
I'm down for the cause. I wonder if you have to rent this machine annually like Carbon?
So 2 and a half years are gone. Any news or it just didnt work out.
Yes, thank you. I asked them about more specifications under their new promo video.
What does this sentence mean? "Utilising the NP1 for the production of end-use parts, however, is the goal. The company’s beta partners over the next few months, before shipping commences in Q4 2018, will help the company put the capabilities of its $90,000 machine to the test to determine what applications can work and what can’t." I mean that 90000$ value.
So, Are they saying that NP1 will cost more than $90,000? That's my main concern. :/
I'm failing to understand how this printer actually works, he says that it can print any resin in a large space, but the machine is quite small, is the printer made up of two pieces that work together, or is he implying that you have to manually glue multiple smaller pieces together?
I mean, does the printer come in different sizes? Because all the samples he has on the table look about the same small size
now how do you unstick it from the top
Beautiful. Nowdays, for every huge company, there is now a smaller one that does the same thing better and cheaper. Oxygen permeable glass? HAHA Carbon was being so mysterious about their secret technology, but that's all it is? Hey instead of a projector or laser, why not an LCD screen? So does it still print in layers really fast, or is it seamless like Carbon?
LOOKS LIKE THIS IS A FAKE COMPANY!!! january 15th lanch date past, no launch no photos no product, no lab... if you check their website, you can see that the product they are LAUNCHING is a raytraced photorealistic graphics model of a prototype and that nothing of the kind has been built for genuine real company photos. they are fake!!! ... on their facebook they have started to attend medical industry events to print skulls on their huge 3d printer which probably uses no new technology different from carbon3d.
Can this work with polycarbonate?
I'm about 95% certain that I how they are doing this, and the way they create the deadzone is incredibly simple. They reason they are not selling a machine is probably two-fold.
1) They know they don't have have the clout to manipulate the patent office to grant a real patent on something that is so obvious that it should not be patentable. Only a company with a huge herd of lawyers - like StrataSys or 3DSystems has done this, and can do this again.
2) They know they don't have the resources to sue and instill fear into a hundred companies who would quickly adopt their very simple technique. US patent laws are also widely ignored by Asian manufactures.
Once the "secret" gets out, lots of people with opensource/homebrew SLA printers will be doing it. It requires little or no modifications to the machine to make it work. There is nothing they can do about that.
Well, can you please share this technique so that we can all beat them to the punch? Tick it to the man, as it were. ;)
With the resin statement, he just called out the fraud....
new law of non stick fying pan.
the secret is in the dead son that we have in here !? whut
laser light dosent work how this guy said it works
Secrecy sucks real bad, maybe next year I will find this interesting.
the worker is asking him self question because this guy stays just next to him holding a mikrophone. this sounds very offensive, sorry
yikes - this guy, the marketing guy, is one hell of an unpleasant person! i don't like!
+CooperDuper3000 They guy is Diego Castanon he's not "the marketing" guy he's the CEO and head of R&D.
+DOGMA1138 that makes it worse that someone so apparently "unlikable" runs the business
So... a year later, was this all a scam?
Fargo 3D Printing Thanks for the reply! Well that's both good and bad news. Kind of like Carbon 3D, amazing technology that is only available to the rich. :/
its been another year where is this stuff
he forgot where he was wtf
c'on! who let this salesman inside Ces... It's supposed to be more geeky than this. This guy was selling vacuum cleaners and now laser 3d printers :P
Haha, the interview was so curious and speechless that he fumbles because he's so excited because we got so little info in the end. Don't worry I don't blame you!
All in all, we can print vertically, any size and with any resin.
More importantly when and how much?
Carbon 3D is obviously a rubbish company that shot itself in its foot? Came out with their technology 3 yrs ago stating how they were going to change the world very soon and every one will have one of its printers on their desktop. And recently same out with their printer $144K or somthing? Yeah right, I'll bet they'll be bankrupt within 3 yrs.
Hope NEWPro3D doesn't take too long and takes the lead from now with affordable printers very soon on the market or else it'll be another Carbon3D.
The Chinese companies aren't going to give you a break if they come up with something similar at a tenth of the cost!
+sam a I don't see how it shot itself in the foot when it secured partnerships with both Ford AND GE. These companies aren't looking to make 'affordable printers'. They're looking to make the fastest ones.
frying pan
I only see fine detail objects being printed, minimum surface area and certainly no flat or solid objects or even an object with say a 2mm wall thickness, a continuous printer like this cannot do it, I wonder if Diego knows this when he talks of a 1m x 1m object. I'm not sure what the market is for a 1m x 1m veroni sphere or even a 50mm sphere? Print some real dimensionally accurate prototypes using this tech and I will be impressed, until then unfortunately this is just a giant DLP printer with a small build volume, nothing special... hopefully the vat design is something special but alas they want to keep it a secret so us consumers can't make an informed decision during purchase...sigh.
+Clone 3D Print He did mention wind turbine blades and a kayak. I imagine those have flat surfaces and are sufficiently large and thick.
You know I'm starting to see where Donald Trump is coming from XD
I spent 1000 dollars 2 years ago and have 2 Dual Laser Preach 3D printers that don't work yet and they have sent me no resin to use. I an trying to get a model company off the ground, and the F king Weed Eater String Melters wont do what I want them to. I need to print big for the masters. If I have to sand it down afterwards then I might as well jest make the stuff with a Mill and a lathe. So until all these brain surgeons get something that really works ant doesn't cost 10,000 dollars then I will machine it the old fashion way.
+TwistedSister/Haratiofales It will cost you 40,000 usd yearly to get a machine like the one in the video, got that kind of money?
Well, I hope to hell that it all comes to fruition in the end. In the Mean time I will do it the old way, and if these printers were working now I probably would have that kind of money. that was the point. I could beta test it before it becomes a 50 dollar toaster that the whole world can buy off the shelf in Wall Mart.
First.
Sounds like a scammer lmfao
Lol 4 minutes, that shit is slow..
this guy knows nothing about resin chemistry
you can print a 99% hollow object really fast? OMG No one cares
aha, and please an example for printing. We want to see this speed.