No, I’ve just got a jar of carbon and sand that I use when I’m bored and people complain about not being home at 1500. They still don’t know about that.
Secret to turning your gun in clean every time. RIG grease a quality cleaning kit, and not being a mentally deficient butter bar that failed qualification 10 times.
It's simple remember the term "Dry is your Guy" So long as the weapon is dry, and any particulates or carbon build up is pretty much gone and you have to actually try and scrape some up you are good. The way units make you clean your rifle is actually wrong and does more damage to the weapon system than good.
Watched a range safety E5 snatch away a Majors weapon after he flagged the unit twice with his weapon on safe. Kinda embarrassing and we never saw that Major near the range again
I was a unit armorer for a training unit at Ft Rucker, and while I never made up issues, the look of shame on a brand new Butter Bar's face when he'd proudly handed in his M-16, and my pinky left that star chamber black. Priceless
Difference between a private and specialist: private will try to turn in clean weapon many times and get rejected every time. Specialist turns in weapon once, at close of business.
The key to getting your rifle checked is timing - first half of soldiers and they’ll be really thorough, last third and they’ll tell everyone to get around and help you. Sweet spot between the two and it’s never checked as much!
This guy's GOTTA be in Craftons wolf pack. He seems like he'd be friends with him hahaha. This guy's got to have some nerdy hobby that overlaps with one of crafton's.
That goddamned star chamber would be the death of me trying to turn my M4 in. I could clean the rest of it down until the rifle shone, but somehow there was always that little bit of black inside. Always drove me nuts.
That's what that metal/brass bore brush is for (you know the wide one that pokes the HELL out of your fingers with it's bristles), stick it in the chamber and twist it a bunch of times. THEN use an environmentally negligent number of Q-tips to clean up the mess once everything is scraped free.
You are going to hate me for being late to the party, but there are actually star chamber cleaners that are shaped to clean behind them. Ranger joes sells them in a bag.
1. You need to do one on the 0400 weapon draw that doesn't happen til 1100. 2. It's crazy how weapons meet the standard after a certain amount of time has passed. And 3. If I'm cleaning MY weapon so well, how the hell was it dirty when it was issued to me?!?!
People that were never in will never believe the frustration of the 0400 weapons draw. At IOBC we had to be in line at 0330 one time. We sat and sat. At 0630 the armorer ran by doing PT on his own. He took his sweet time with his shower and breakfast as well. When he got in a 0900 it was now an emergency to get the weapons out and these young butter bars can’t do anything right.
Actually saw a guy shower with his rifle on my first FTX with a guard unit after coming off active duty. I couldnt even process what I was looking at. By that time I was already numbed to silly guard shit but that still managed to stun me.
Army mass psychosis - our main armorer was very much this guy. If you pan down, the dude is wearing silkies, has at least 3 dip mt dew bottles, and is wearing mossy oak crocs. God bless you Scriv, wherever you are.
In my company, the star chamber is all that really mattered. Sure, I cleaned everything other weapon part, but it was primarily the star chamber that our armorer wanted to see shine. Always. Good times.
I was an armorer for a few years in texas. I had a peeve about 3 very specific sections on the m16/m4 platforms. The star chamber is always 1. 2 is the bolt. 3 is inside the bolt carrier. That is where all the chunky carbon likes to build. Id take a brass scraper and run it around inside a carrier and dump out literal piles of carbon dust. 100% sent back every time. And it reflects on range days. When other companies rifles turn into basically bolt actions, mine always ran flawless. All our M2s worked and had BFAs. Ml19s, never once had a failure. M9s never saw the hands of an officer. I miss my arms room. I also miss getting to bug the hell out of some uppity officer on inconvenient times to sign for the keys becauee i stayed late to do services and paperwork that made my life easier and made anyone not enlisted lives a paperwork hell on earth.
We all work with this person. That highly intelligent person that is really out in left field, that will make you feel stupid and will make you laugh at the same time.
As a former armorer I can confirm this was my favorite part of field problems ZERO and I mean ZERO prisoners taken I kicked my my COs pistol back so many times they had the 50s done before he got his one pistol in
You should have had the guy turning in his weapon check a spot, have it be clean, then the armorer checks the exact same spot and finds carbon. Because I swear their fingers just have little carbon magnets in them.
Only thing you missed was having the commander turn in a dirty weapon and the armorer passing it back out to be cleaned by the first person to turn in their own weapon.
Accurate as all Hell. I swear Armorers finding a little bit of carbon, they act like they single handedly solved the Jimmy Hoffa case. And now expect a medal.
In my Armory we kept a shot glass of dirty rifle swabs next to the intake window Incase we didn’t like or wanted to play games with who ever was turning in their rifles and for once actually did have a clean rifle. Best was our Butter bars. They would either freak out or would hang money out the ejection port when they sent it it.
Yeeaiiight, i felt for the armorer this time. "its very evident most of you didnt spend any extra curricular time with firearms" i bet spoken to a group of soldiers who could be bent about going to the range even if there was music and bbq there, with the uniform details just being lbvs and achs lmao
When I was in the army, I was wondering if these guys developed an extra link in their pinkie for scraping all the nooks and crannies of the chamber, you can spend hours cleaning the chamber, they will find some soot in there, always!
Dude the amount of over maintenance on these weapon systems is what always pissed me off, I've put over a 1000 rounds and shells through my guns and all I do is wipe and light coat of oil and haven't had a jam yet.
Agreed. Basically no one in the military understands how to clean and maintain weapon systems, much less how they function or how to remedy malfunctions. Pisses me off.
True that. I use to tick off my unit armor all the time. If they kicked me back for more cleaning I would spend hours cleaning that weapon till they got sick and tired of waiting and took the weapon regardless of how clean or dirty it was. Usually they never messed with me after that.
Lol plot twist your best friends with armorer and they take your weapon anyways leaving the people left in line feeling hopeful untill the armorer takes the buttstock off finds dirt "how do you expect to go to war with a dirty buffer tube exterior"
What about, when you actually have a clean passable weapon, the armorer congratulates you, every one cheers in amazement, you feel like a superstar,,and then the armorer gives you another "unasigned" weapon to clean, or the 1SG, or Comanders, or CSMs weapon. Never turned in my weapon early after that.
I used to clean it once, find out what was wrong, then wait until right before final formation to turn it in. The 92s in the arms room want to go home too.
Jesus I'm Navy and have never dealt with an armorer in my entire career, and this still makes me unreasonably angry. There's a nice warm place in hell for armorers like this.
Cleaning weapon after going to the range is great, it only turned into bad experience when you have to clean like 10 more for others (officer, chief, appointment ranger...etc) and went home late for it
Why I maintained paperwork of who cleaned and didn't clean their weapon. If they didn't I had documentation stating why they didn't and had a scheduled date when they could clean their weapons along with any reason of a no show or cancelations. I'd bring it up on a counseling statement if it wasn't done by the end of the month along with corrective training. Yes you can counsel literally anyone in your chain of command up or down from your rank.
@@Really-Know holly cow !!, was in for almost 4 years and didnt even know abt this :))), It was dreadful to me whenever after the range or training rotation cuz i have to clean like at least 5 extra weapon from my platoon sgt, my chief and some bull shit battle bud... I do really respect the guy who clean his/her shit and thought those rule you said should be applied to the unit, i guess that distinguish between good unit and bad unit, good armory and bad armory though.
Armorers the military over seem to miss two key things about cleaning weapons: 1) the neurotic overcleaning they demand actually shortens the service life of weapons by wearing down and weakening parts over time. 2) The M4a1 carbine actually functions better with a bit of carbon in the action, and the small smidges of carbon left after a thorough but not excessive cleaning have zero (0) effect on the function of the rifle.
Dare you to do one where the Specialist Small Arms Repairman puts a .50cal pintle mount through a metal wall locker after having a "polite" conversation with the CSM about parts storage procedures.
at the end of every day on the range, or at the end of an exercise. 95% of the time the weapons in the US Army are locked up in a vault in the barracks basement. The armorer is usually an E-4 and when the weapons are signed out, he's the highest ranking person in the building.
CPL, if you turn me back again, ill make sure Ill take *extra* time cleaning my weapon, even after everyone else is gone, I've got nothing but time and get paid more for it.
i literally have 0 military experience i just watch this man because hes entertaining
Same. All the characters are still out there in the real world also tho lol We all know a Crafton, Armorer Guy, etc.
I'm sure it's ok if you're here... but we better check the regulations just to be safe...
Well it’s the most honest view of the dailies of soldiers in garrisons.
Well you're in luck because so far he's been spot on with every character I've met irl lol
Imagine if you have some experience, you will die laughing and have PTSD at the same time :))
The Armorer’s secret play is wiping the bottom piece of the ejection port. 50% of the time it works every time.
No, I’ve just got a jar of carbon and sand that I use when I’m bored and people complain about not being home at 1500. They still don’t know about that.
its like one of those shits where no matter how many times you wipe, theres still poop
@@cryptojuicer Also known as resi-doo-doo.
@@The_Black_FalchionIf you were my platoons armorer we would have…. Made you disappear
@@goforbroke4428 I'm not a platoons Armorer, I'm the Companies armorer. Everyone gets the smoke, I don't give a damn lol.
"It means try again."
One does not simply turn in their rifle on the first try.
One does if one puts $10 in the chamber and slides a couple smokes across the counter
I did and I shoved it up his @$$
PLT SGT thought it was funny but not the 1st SGT
Secret to turning your gun in clean every time. RIG grease a quality cleaning kit, and not being a mentally deficient butter bar that failed qualification 10 times.
That depends on how tired the inspector is.
It's simple remember the term "Dry is your Guy"
So long as the weapon is dry, and any particulates or carbon build up is pretty much gone and you have to actually try and scrape some up you are good. The way units make you clean your rifle is actually wrong and does more damage to the weapon system than good.
The major saying “yeah” to his muzzle being in the dirt sent me rolling
A Major in my unit has a weapon filled with mud. Can’t believe it was turned in like that.
Watched a range safety E5 snatch away a Majors weapon after he flagged the unit twice with his weapon on safe.
Kinda embarrassing and we never saw that Major near the range again
I had a guy in one of my platoons who talked a lot like this, but he was extremely eloquent. Imagine Gulmer Oppenheimer.
Gulmer? You Goomer? lmao
What's worse is the rifles were probably in just as bad a condition when he issued them.
It’s funny because out of all the characters, this dudes the most real and chill lmao
This brings back a lot of pain and misery. Spotless weapon "You know what, I don't accept first-time go's, so clean it again"
Chief - you’ve once again created a masterful character! Also, this needs to be shown at 92Y AIT! 😂👏🏻
Why? All 3 of my unit armorers were MPs that got voluntold to go to the 2 week class supply had nothing to do with it lol
Listen, as an armorer, I can say that this is 100%...... a realistic depiction of us.
Upon further inspection, there was indeed a little old man in there.
He was not happy.
I wish my AR had a little man in the buttstock that pushed the bolt back in, because then it would no longer be semi-auto and would be NZ Legal.
😂
I was a unit armorer for a training unit at Ft Rucker, and while I never made up issues, the look of shame on a brand new Butter Bar's face when he'd proudly handed in his M-16, and my pinky left that star chamber black. Priceless
Difference between a private and specialist: private will try to turn in clean weapon many times and get rejected every time. Specialist turns in weapon once, at close of business.
The key to getting your rifle checked is timing - first half of soldiers and they’ll be really thorough, last third and they’ll tell everyone to get around and help you. Sweet spot between the two and it’s never checked as much!
This guy's GOTTA be in Craftons wolf pack. He seems like he'd be friends with him hahaha. This guy's got to have some nerdy hobby that overlaps with one of crafton's.
Guy is definitely into Warhammer 40K figurines
He has the project truck (without wheels) parked in front of the barracks.
He lives off post.
@@FirstOfTheMagi They are models, not figurines. /s
@@themodernfrontiersmen very very very expensive models.
@@FirstOfTheMagiyou mean the superior game dnd? 😂
I swear this is so accurate. Always the direct eye contact when checking for carbon in the star chamber 😂
There's nothing like the doubt you feel when you're next in line 😂😂😂
Especially when you've just seen him just absolutely ream the guy in front of you like he was R. Lee Ermey reincarnated.
That goddamned star chamber would be the death of me trying to turn my M4 in. I could clean the rest of it down until the rifle shone, but somehow there was always that little bit of black inside. Always drove me nuts.
Are you sure the armorer wasn’t making it dirty himself just to fuck with you?
I buy q-tips in bulk.
@@Theggman83 Ugh, so many q-tips. Hell, I still go through q-tips with my personal rifles, lol.
That's what that metal/brass bore brush is for (you know the wide one that pokes the HELL out of your fingers with it's bristles), stick it in the chamber and twist it a bunch of times. THEN use an environmentally negligent number of Q-tips to clean up the mess once everything is scraped free.
You are going to hate me for being late to the party, but there are actually star chamber cleaners that are shaped to clean behind them.
Ranger joes sells them in a bag.
I love that he's not mad just disappointed.
My Grandfather was an armorer in Korea, this skit reminds me so much of him anytime I worked with him on anything.
This is the best co worker you’ll ever have.
The chief is like this all day. Straight fun 24/7
I always got them on the star chamber ☝️😏. If they got mad, I would say
Do it again! 🤔💅🏻
100% guilty of saying
"Next!"
"Next Victim!"
new favorite character. condescending, yet caring
As CSM would say, “Do it AGANE!”
Crafton’s “yeah” was perfect
ROFL!! "A little man in there" ROFL!!! Literally woke the wife up in the other room with an out loud laugh. HAHA, you pheucking rock.
1. You need to do one on the 0400 weapon draw that doesn't happen til 1100. 2. It's crazy how weapons meet the standard after a certain amount of time has passed. And 3. If I'm cleaning MY weapon so well, how the hell was it dirty when it was issued to me?!?!
People that were never in will never believe the frustration of the 0400 weapons draw. At IOBC we had to be in line at 0330 one time. We sat and sat. At 0630 the armorer ran by doing PT on his own. He took his sweet time with his shower and breakfast as well. When he got in a 0900 it was now an emergency to get the weapons out and these young butter bars can’t do anything right.
@@johnnyj222 it's all intentional and suffering for the sake of suffering.
thank God we have a washing station outside the arms room, just hose them rifles down and dry them
Just hit em with the hose
I've heard stories of people showering with their rifles.
Back in the day we had tubs full of solvent - took the oil right out of your skin
Actually saw a guy shower with his rifle on my first FTX with a guard unit after coming off active duty. I couldnt even process what I was looking at. By that time I was already numbed to silly guard shit but that still managed to stun me.
@@dm0065 Maybe he was a former service Marine. They seem to have an almost unhealthy relationship with their issue weapons, hell they even name them.
I luv it when they rtn a wpn with no.buffer and spring and the bolt slides into the stock!
Yes I know what you are thinking? How?
But it happens
As a former Armorer this speaks to my soul
A well placed Federal Reserve Note in the ejector port usually guarantee's acceptance.
It’s always the Star Chamber. The Star Chamber is always good for a « do it again » second cleaning.
You forgot the infamous 20 dollar bill in the chamber inspection.
I’m not proud of it, but I saw a lot of myself in this one…
Army mass psychosis - our main armorer was very much this guy. If you pan down, the dude is wearing silkies, has at least 3 dip mt dew bottles, and is wearing mossy oak crocs. God bless you Scriv, wherever you are.
In my company, the star chamber is all that really mattered. Sure, I cleaned everything other weapon part, but it was primarily the star chamber that our armorer wanted to see shine. Always. Good times.
Gotta make sure it's clean for the big green ween.
He's the least unhinged man in the whole army so far.
I was an armorer for a few years in texas. I had a peeve about 3 very specific sections on the m16/m4 platforms. The star chamber is always 1. 2 is the bolt. 3 is inside the bolt carrier. That is where all the chunky carbon likes to build. Id take a brass scraper and run it around inside a carrier and dump out literal piles of carbon dust. 100% sent back every time.
And it reflects on range days. When other companies rifles turn into basically bolt actions, mine always ran flawless. All our M2s worked and had BFAs. Ml19s, never once had a failure. M9s never saw the hands of an officer. I miss my arms room. I also miss getting to bug the hell out of some uppity officer on inconvenient times to sign for the keys becauee i stayed late to do services and paperwork that made my life easier and made anyone not enlisted lives a paperwork hell on earth.
Lots of Dad energy coming from this video
My sides hurt from laughing so much from this 😂
We all work with this person. That highly intelligent person that is really out in left field, that will make you feel stupid and will make you laugh at the same time.
“Uh Oh, the star chamber”
Stop. Stop. That’s a core memory
When Crafton and this unit armorer meet there will be a reckoning. It'll be like a scene out of Highlander.
This movie just crushed my soul!
I hope he reaches out to Zach Hazzard to get some reference material for more of these armorer videos.
As a former armorer I can confirm this was my favorite part of field problems ZERO and I mean ZERO prisoners taken I kicked my my COs pistol back so many times they had the 50s done before he got his one pistol in
I love the look on peoples face when I take the but stock off and they see rust.
You should have had the guy turning in his weapon check a spot, have it be clean, then the armorer checks the exact same spot and finds carbon. Because I swear their fingers just have little carbon magnets in them.
Only thing you missed was having the commander turn in a dirty weapon and the armorer passing it back out to be cleaned by the first person to turn in their own weapon.
Accurate as all Hell. I swear Armorers finding a little bit of carbon, they act like they single handedly solved the Jimmy Hoffa case. And now expect a medal.
The only thing I care to know is, why are the comments turned off on "Crafton in the club"?
That is a crime against humanity...
“Try again..”
“If I go Section 8.. You’re the first one to go..”
In my Armory we kept a shot glass of dirty rifle swabs next to the intake window Incase we didn’t like or wanted to play games with who ever was turning in their rifles and for once actually did have a clean rifle. Best was our Butter bars. They would either freak out or would hang money out the ejection port when they sent it it.
The pepsi challenge 😂😂 havent heard that in 20 years. I'm going to go ask my wife if she's up for the challenge.
maaaaaan brigade's ALWAYS comin down
Ha Ha. The buffer spring. Had an armorer that keyed in on that one part.
CW5 Returns a rifle that was last cleaned in WW2 "Yep Chief you are good to go!"
Yeeaiiight, i felt for the armorer this time. "its very evident most of you didnt spend any extra curricular time with firearms" i bet spoken to a group of soldiers who could be bent about going to the range even if there was music and bbq there, with the uniform details just being lbvs and achs lmao
There is a man in the butt stock feeding your rounds but that's 20 level knowledge
When I was in the army, I was wondering if these guys developed an extra link in their pinkie for scraping all the nooks and crannies of the chamber, you can spend hours cleaning the chamber, they will find some soot in there, always!
honestly as long as the barrel and the star chamber were good you passed
Dude the inspections from brigade and above were fucking nuts. Had a maintenance cw4 tell me the rifles should be "bone dry" what the fuck
Dude the amount of over maintenance on these weapon systems is what always pissed me off, I've put over a 1000 rounds and shells through my guns and all I do is wipe and light coat of oil and haven't had a jam yet.
Agreed. Basically no one in the military understands how to clean and maintain weapon systems, much less how they function or how to remedy malfunctions. Pisses me off.
I think armorer might be my new favorite. Sorry Crafton.
True that. I use to tick off my unit armor all the time. If they kicked me back for more cleaning I would spend hours cleaning that weapon till they got sick and tired of waiting and took the weapon regardless of how clean or dirty it was. Usually they never messed with me after that.
I loved cleaning my weapon meant I didn't have to do my job for a few hours. I'd purposely take forever until they said to stop. Lmfao
Lol plot twist your best friends with armorer and they take your weapon anyways leaving the people left in line feeling hopeful untill the armorer takes the buttstock off finds dirt "how do you expect to go to war with a dirty buffer tube exterior"
I was showered naked with my M240B to get it to be accepted. Was such a wasted evening and night. They wonder why we don't re-up. Lol.
As a gunman and CERT officer for DOC.. I need to say this too funny! Because that's how our armory is.
The trick was always to wrap the BCG with a $50 bill. The one surefire way to pass inspection.
He sounds like Friendly younger incarnation.
Son of a air force weapons tech here, this is accurate
Sgt Huebert would be the perfect name for this character
i'll steal those lines for the next time we coming back from the range lol
There is a little man in there! His name's Jimmy!
What about, when you actually have a clean passable weapon, the armorer congratulates you, every one cheers in amazement, you feel like a superstar,,and then the armorer gives you another "unasigned" weapon to clean, or the 1SG, or Comanders, or CSMs weapon. Never turned in my weapon early after that.
Me sneakily spraying the innards of the rifle down with Lucas Oil Contact Cleaner
I used to clean it once, find out what was wrong, then wait until right before final formation to turn it in. The 92s in the arms room want to go home too.
Oh how many times have we had to go through this.
Jesus I'm Navy and have never dealt with an armorer in my entire career, and this still makes me unreasonably angry. There's a nice warm place in hell for armorers like this.
Air Force Security Police armorers are like that as well after qualification and exercises.
Cleaning weapon after going to the range is great, it only turned into bad experience when you have to clean like 10 more for others (officer, chief, appointment ranger...etc) and went home late for it
Why I maintained paperwork of who cleaned and didn't clean their weapon. If they didn't I had documentation stating why they didn't and had a scheduled date when they could clean their weapons along with any reason of a no show or cancelations. I'd bring it up on a counseling statement if it wasn't done by the end of the month along with corrective training. Yes you can counsel literally anyone in your chain of command up or down from your rank.
@@Really-Know holly cow !!, was in for almost 4 years and didnt even know abt this :))), It was dreadful to me whenever after the range or training rotation cuz i have to clean like at least 5 extra weapon from my platoon sgt, my chief and some bull shit battle bud... I do really respect the guy who clean his/her shit and thought those rule you said should be applied to the unit, i guess that distinguish between good unit and bad unit, good armory and bad armory though.
Spot on. I smell the CRP.
Armorers the military over seem to miss two key things about cleaning weapons:
1) the neurotic overcleaning they demand actually shortens the service life of weapons by wearing down and weakening parts over time.
2) The M4a1 carbine actually functions better with a bit of carbon in the action, and the small smidges of carbon left after a thorough but not excessive cleaning have zero (0) effect on the function of the rifle.
I think it's a holdover from when powder and primers were corrosive.
Damnit, this guy needs to work with Zach Hazard ASAP.
YES
Dare you to do one where the Specialist Small Arms Repairman puts a .50cal pintle mount through a metal wall locker after having a "polite" conversation with the CSM about parts storage procedures.
He was envious of the cabinets
Why do they all have a southern accent, even when they are from Utah? It is one of life's great mysteries...
As armorer, I, at one point, hated everyone
The star chamber is never clean!
I always passed mine in no problem and helped everyone else get the really tough spots
He is probably suits well with the CSM.
Armorer Elmer is good with his fingers!!
Do you do this every day or what's up?
In the Finnish army, the NCO's check the weapons before they're put away in the barracks.
at the end of every day on the range, or at the end of an exercise. 95% of the time the weapons in the US Army are locked up in a vault in the barracks basement. The armorer is usually an E-4 and when the weapons are signed out, he's the highest ranking person in the building.
CPL, if you turn me back again, ill make sure Ill take *extra* time cleaning my weapon, even after everyone else is gone, I've got nothing but time and get paid more for it.
That's cool man, I gots a cot in the back o' the cage there, you take all the time you need.
Currently crafton, Christianson and armorer are my favorites. Let's give him a name.
What's even worse is the cleaning kits you are given are already extremely dirty is it's not removing anything or perhaps just adding too.
I just love that he doesn’t have eyebrows
This would be much funnier if it wasn't soul crushing truth.