I am a little sad we won’t get a 2 player set, DW seems to get them regularly. But I can also imagine the cost would be GW levels due to the number of minis needed.
I was surprised, but I get the decision to stick to one player sets. If they decided to make two player sets, they would almost have to mimic the DW ones for sales purposes and that limits your narrative angle too.
Generally, dont like epic scale games because imo vehicle heavy games are not as personable as closer to the ground infantry ones, but damn does warCradle know how to put personality into vehicles ill definitely be looking into thisb
It's a very different feel... But this game is going to feature infantry quite heavily. The 1/160 scale is still plenty big enough for detail on the models and still have the infantry matter.
Looking promising. My only concern is the apparent lack of individual weapons if I'm understanding that correctly? Can lead to things being overly simple and boring. Essentially what happened when GW destroyed 2nd edition Space Marine and turned it into the disaster that was Epic 40,000.
You can make variants of a tank and I assume weapon swaps are the easiest to do. But I don't expect 10mm infantry to have individual weapons interchangeable. Maybe options to add heavy weapon troopers over time... But that might not be in the initial wave of sprues. DW also has models that have to be made using different sprues but with interchangeable components.
@@speeddemonpainting7050 Oh sure, I was mainly concerned about the larger vehicles where you'd expect a variety of weapons. I wouldn't expect smaller things and infantry to need that level of variety. Just *appears* to be somewhat odd that the large landships and similar big vehicles to not have various weapons with abilities and unique stats. But we'll see!
Perhaps. This game is quite likely to change a lot over the years as it'll be a similar living rules set like DW is. I just immediately got turned off by Mantic's epic being via Kickstarter. I've been having nothing but horrendous extra costs for shipping and VAT with KS... The worst offender was the BattleTech one, but others by Knight games have been terrible too.
@@speeddemonpainting7050 It's been a rough time on KS since Brexit and the post-covid shipping spikes for sure. But this isn't Mantic's first rodeo, they are one of the foundational companies that defined the format of wargame crowdfunding, so I have full confidence :D
Can you run this game alongside a dystopian naval game? Are the game sequences the same? Like the old Spartan version was the same game so you could combine them both.
I don't think so... You can link one game to the next, but the land units will not be used in the naval game as the scale is different. It was a deliberate choice to make it two different games both for scale and then the fact that tank shells would probably harmlessly bounce off warship armor.
I like the howitzer looking model for the British stuff after the behemoth is shown.
I am a little sad we won’t get a 2 player set, DW seems to get them regularly. But I can also imagine the cost would be GW levels due to the number of minis needed.
I was surprised, but I get the decision to stick to one player sets.
If they decided to make two player sets, they would almost have to mimic the DW ones for sales purposes and that limits your narrative angle too.
The Dystopian setting seems like it could make some amazing campaign games for stores to run.
We know that Scott bloke he's alright 😁
Can't wait. This looks awesome
Generally, dont like epic scale games because imo vehicle heavy games are not as personable as closer to the ground infantry ones, but damn does warCradle know how to put personality into vehicles ill definitely be looking into thisb
It's a very different feel... But this game is going to feature infantry quite heavily. The 1/160 scale is still plenty big enough for detail on the models and still have the infantry matter.
Looking promising. My only concern is the apparent lack of individual weapons if I'm understanding that correctly? Can lead to things being overly simple and boring. Essentially what happened when GW destroyed 2nd edition Space Marine and turned it into the disaster that was Epic 40,000.
You can make variants of a tank and I assume weapon swaps are the easiest to do.
But I don't expect 10mm infantry to have individual weapons interchangeable. Maybe options to add heavy weapon troopers over time... But that might not be in the initial wave of sprues.
DW also has models that have to be made using different sprues but with interchangeable components.
@@speeddemonpainting7050 Oh sure, I was mainly concerned about the larger vehicles where you'd expect a variety of weapons. I wouldn't expect smaller things and infantry to need that level of variety. Just *appears* to be somewhat odd that the large landships and similar big vehicles to not have various weapons with abilities and unique stats. But we'll see!
Of the 3 new "Epic" games this one gonna have the best models, but I suspect Mantic's will have the best rules.
Perhaps. This game is quite likely to change a lot over the years as it'll be a similar living rules set like DW is.
I just immediately got turned off by Mantic's epic being via Kickstarter. I've been having nothing but horrendous extra costs for shipping and VAT with KS... The worst offender was the BattleTech one, but others by Knight games have been terrible too.
@@speeddemonpainting7050 It's been a rough time on KS since Brexit and the post-covid shipping spikes for sure. But this isn't Mantic's first rodeo, they are one of the foundational companies that defined the format of wargame crowdfunding, so I have full confidence :D
Can you run this game alongside a dystopian naval game? Are the game sequences the same? Like the old Spartan version was the same game so you could combine them both.
I don't think so... You can link one game to the next, but the land units will not be used in the naval game as the scale is different.
It was a deliberate choice to make it two different games both for scale and then the fact that tank shells would probably harmlessly bounce off warship armor.