Well that’s cool that Stripling asked for your feedback. Typically the super conservative people are afraid of feedback from people they disagree with.
Oh no, don't make me wait for 1 week for part 2. This is so interesting, funny and engaging. Since I cannot come to ETS, I really delight in your stories. Conferences are all about the conversations. Papers are for discussions... Thank you!
24:54 Oh, that’s what I call a super-early date view. Basically, a super-early date view holds the Exodus to have happened before 1500 BC or assigns it to a pharaoh whose real dates (any chronological revisionism notwithstanding) are mostly or entirely before 1500 BC, whereas I use the “early date” label for theories placing the exodus between 1500 and 1400 BC. Many super-early daters might look like run-of-the-mill early daters with regards to suggested dates due to heavy chronological revisionism on the part of the super-early dater. I also distinguish between late and super-late date theories, delineating late date theories as those placing the exodus between 1310 and around 1249 BC (and don’t involve significant chronological rewriting) and super-late dates as any theory that places the exodus after 1249 BC. The reason why my late date range is much shorter than my early date range is because I’m using the Merenptah stele as a cutoff, with “super-late” denoting theories that would place the Israelite entry into Canaan later than Merneptah’s campaign. Note that if you go by Dr. Falk’s dates for Merenptah’s reign, the boundary between late and super-late date theories jumps backwards to 1258 BC. The rest of the 14th century (1399-1311 BC) is termed mid date.
In reference to Brown- he's known for being extremely easy to get along with. He was one of the few people I've ever seen get James White to let his hair down.
Btw : I love the Crossway Greek scripture journal - the best without comparation - its nothing to compare it with. And just got the "A Journal for the Hebrew Scriptures" as I try to learn Hebrew. Still have not found any LXX scripture journal.
Thanks for the inside scoop! I remember, after your video on the Amoritic-Akkadian tablet, I mentioned it to Dr. Brown and linked him to your video, as well as the article, which he said was really interesting. I wonder if that's how he knew you or if it was from some other interaction. Either way, I'd be excited to see you two interact on the Exodus. He seems to take a neutral position. Although I think he leans towards an early date, I also think he's open to considering a different view. 😁 With regard to Dr. Craig, have you read his book _In Quest of the Historical Adam_ ? In it, he briefly argues why the genre of Genesis 1-11 cannot be anti-myth, but after listening to you, I don't think it can be denied that there are at least some elements of anti-mythology in Genesis. Do you find his hypothesis that it is mytho-historical convincing?
Wow! All good stuff. I got the same argument from someone on Rohl's site that the only group that worshiped 'yhw' were the Israelites. There is no way to tell one way or another if it was a different group. The Shasu of Seir could be in the Arabah valley as well and not only up on the plateau. The Israelites were denied passage along the King's Highway. They apparently paid silver to Edom and Moab in DT 2:28-29. Presumably for going along the edge of their territory or going through the border at the Zered Ravine.
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Loved this video. But I won't lie... I was hoping you would say you ran into Jack Ray and he gave AE&TB gifts to everyone around. Or at the very least some strange encounter with Addison Wier. 😂
I was at SBL this year. Hess had a good paper with more support for his Asheratah argument, it was a lot more rigorous than this NEAS stuff. I also picked up a book on Christian Nationalism titled “Taming Leviathan” that deals with Lotan imagery in the Bible as an example for dealing with ‘chaos agents.’
I would have attended SBL except I'm criminally trespassed there. I have the rare distinction of being criminally trespassed for life at SBL... because I'm such a threat to the personal safety of everyone at SBL. 🤪
Do you see confessional scholars getting back academic respectability and jobs at major universities any time soon? I have a feeling not ETS has many members who work at Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Brown, Oxford, Cambridge, Aberdeen, St Andrews, Heidelberg, Tübingen, Münster, LMU Munich, Lund, Copenhagen, Helsinki etc.
@@ancientegyptandthebible Is there any real exchange of ideas between the ETS-crowd and wider academia? Do most at SBL even know that ETS is being held around the same time?
@ I guess the German academic system is a bit too foreign for them. In Germany you have to first become a Privatodzent (write you 2nd thesis of original research) before you can even be considered to become a full professor
Hey Dr. Faulk! I saw in a recorded lecture that Dr. Nigro doesn’t think the LB wall at Jericho existed during the LBIIb. Any thoughts? His arguments were quite convoluted and strange on that front as I get the impression he was trying to deflect from people asking about the Biblical account. . . I’ve been writing a paper in my MB-LB doctoral seminar that involved Tell es-Sultan and stumbled upon some of his lectures.
Nigro deflects on a LBIIB wall in his earlier lectures because of the implications. He wanted to avoid becoming embroiled in the controversial nature that correlating the destruction of Jericho would have with a viable timing of the Israelite Conquest. However, in his 2023 publication, Nigro is explicit that the destruction of the LB city took place in LBIIB.
@@ancientegyptandthebibleI noticed the same thing! Thanks for responding, just wanted to bounce some ideas off of someone before I present today given that Nigro has not responded to my many emails about this. 👍🏻👍🏻
@@ancientegyptandthebible Have you already read Nigro's 2023 paper? Could you tell us a bit more what Nigro says in that paper about Jericho in a future video? Thank you for the information.
Super random question, but do you have any comments on the word šûl from Isaiah 6:1 in reference to the hem of Gods robe versus an alternative understanding that this could be referring to Gods “bountiful manhood”?
I hope you discussed the damage that has been done with evangelicalism in terms of politics. The Wokeification of it on the Left and the sacrilegious idolatry on the Right
@@paradisecityX0 Most of what I experienced at the conference has no relation to politics. It's a theological convention and most people stuck to that theme. 🤷♂
"buy deeply discounted books" By saying this in the video description, do you mean that the books are sold at a cheaper price, or that they make falsified claims? I'm Christian but I have been growing more suspicious of this whole "apologetics" industry, and think that there are few that are legitimate. What is your view on the "industry"? I haven't been able to watch the whole video yet, so forgive me if you have answered this in the video.
>> "buy deeply discounted books" > By saying this in the video description, do you mean that the books are sold at a cheaper price, or that they make falsified claims? I'm saying sold at a cheaper price. > I'm Christian but I have been growing more suspicious of this whole "apologetics" industry, and think that there are few that are legitimate. What is your view on the "industry"? I haven't been able to watch the whole video yet, so forgive me if you have answered this in the video. My view on apologetics is that it is advocacy. There is nothing inherently wrong with advocacy. Lawyers can be advocates for those who cannot defend themselves--that's a good thing--we need that kind of advocacy. But like all fields where advocacy is practised, you get some advocates who are idealistic and are good at what they do and then some who are less so. Some apologists put a lot into their learning and try really hard to get things rights. Others are quite slack and are seeking fame. It really depends upon the individual. As we have said many times, we are not an apologetics channel--we are an education channel. We are not trying persuade anyone, although we do teach from a Christian perspective. That said, we should note that with only a few exceptions, the apologetics "industry" isn't much of an industry. Prices Law comes into play here, and 99% of apologists probably earn less than $1000/year. More do it for the love of Christ and the love of people. But again, mileage will vary with the individual.
Thank you for your honest insight on it all. I hope to attend an ETS eventually
It sounds like you had a productive time at the conference. Thanks for telling us what happened.
Sounds like you had a very interesting time! Can't wait for part 2!
Well that’s cool that Stripling asked for your feedback. Typically the super conservative people are afraid of feedback from people they disagree with.
The Gavin Ortlund comment 🤣
This is fantastic content, Dr. Falk! My Associate Pastor presented this year, too. I wanted him to go meet you, but I think he missed you.
Oh no, don't make me wait for 1 week for part 2.
This is so interesting, funny and engaging. Since I cannot come to ETS, I really delight in your stories.
Conferences are all about the conversations. Papers are for discussions...
Thank you!
The GOAT of Egyptology UA-cam is back! 😊
24:54 Oh, that’s what I call a super-early date view. Basically, a super-early date view holds the Exodus to have happened before 1500 BC or assigns it to a pharaoh whose real dates (any chronological revisionism notwithstanding) are mostly or entirely before 1500 BC, whereas I use the “early date” label for theories placing the exodus between 1500 and 1400 BC. Many super-early daters might look like run-of-the-mill early daters with regards to suggested dates due to heavy chronological revisionism on the part of the super-early dater.
I also distinguish between late and super-late date theories, delineating late date theories as those placing the exodus between 1310 and around 1249 BC (and don’t involve significant chronological rewriting) and super-late dates as any theory that places the exodus after 1249 BC. The reason why my late date range is much shorter than my early date range is because I’m using the Merenptah stele as a cutoff, with “super-late” denoting theories that would place the Israelite entry into Canaan later than Merneptah’s campaign. Note that if you go by Dr. Falk’s dates for Merenptah’s reign, the boundary between late and super-late date theories jumps backwards to 1258 BC. The rest of the 14th century (1399-1311 BC) is termed mid date.
In reference to Brown- he's known for being extremely easy to get along with. He was one of the few people I've ever seen get James White to let his hair down.
Btw : I love the Crossway Greek scripture journal
- the best without comparation - its nothing to compare it with.
And just got the "A Journal for the Hebrew Scriptures" as I try to learn Hebrew.
Still have not found any LXX scripture journal.
Thanks for the inside scoop!
I remember, after your video on the Amoritic-Akkadian tablet, I mentioned it to Dr. Brown and linked him to your video, as well as the article, which he said was really interesting. I wonder if that's how he knew you or if it was from some other interaction. Either way, I'd be excited to see you two interact on the Exodus. He seems to take a neutral position. Although I think he leans towards an early date, I also think he's open to considering a different view. 😁
With regard to Dr. Craig, have you read his book _In Quest of the Historical Adam_ ? In it, he briefly argues why the genre of Genesis 1-11 cannot be anti-myth, but after listening to you, I don't think it can be denied that there are at least some elements of anti-mythology in Genesis. Do you find his hypothesis that it is mytho-historical convincing?
I hope the next ETS is in Kenya so I can meet Dr Falk!! 😂😂
Dr. Falk drinks Roger Young’s tears lol
An ETS bts, one might call it.
You obviously thoroughly enjoyed yourself😂. Thanks for sharing your adventures with us.
Too bad I missed you at ETS, Dr. Faulk! I went to ASOR this year instead haha!
Wow! All good stuff.
I got the same argument from someone on Rohl's site that the only group that worshiped 'yhw' were the Israelites. There is no way to tell one way or another if it was a different group.
The Shasu of Seir could be in the Arabah valley as well and not only up on the plateau. The Israelites were denied passage along the King's Highway. They apparently paid silver to Edom and Moab in DT 2:28-29. Presumably for going along the edge of their territory or going through the border at the Zered Ravine.
Loved this video. But I won't lie... I was hoping you would say you ran into Jack Ray and he gave AE&TB gifts to everyone around. Or at the very least some strange encounter with Addison Wier. 😂
Yeah, I thought about going, but none of the lectures/sessions looked super interesting to me. Plus, I got bills to pay lol
I was at SBL this year. Hess had a good paper with more support for his Asheratah argument, it was a lot more rigorous than this NEAS stuff.
I also picked up a book on Christian Nationalism titled “Taming Leviathan” that deals with Lotan imagery in the Bible as an example for dealing with ‘chaos agents.’
I would have attended SBL except I'm criminally trespassed there. I have the rare distinction of being criminally trespassed for life at SBL... because I'm such a threat to the personal safety of everyone at SBL. 🤪
Do you see confessional scholars getting back academic respectability and jobs at major universities any time soon? I have a feeling not ETS has many members who work at Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Brown, Oxford, Cambridge, Aberdeen, St Andrews, Heidelberg, Tübingen, Münster, LMU Munich, Lund, Copenhagen, Helsinki etc.
Not anytime soon, unfortunately.
@@ancientegyptandthebible Is there any real exchange of ideas between the ETS-crowd and wider academia? Do most at SBL even know that ETS is being held around the same time?
@@js1423 There is some exchange of ideas. Many of those who attend ETS also do SBL since the two conferences are back to back.
I think Pieter Gert van der Veen is a Privatdozent, not a chaired Professor.
It could be. I don't know. They announced him as a professor.
@ I guess the German academic system is a bit too foreign for them. In Germany you have to first become a Privatodzent (write you 2nd thesis of original research) before you can even be considered to become a full professor
How does it feel to have fans? 😅
Weird. It feels very weird.
NO COMMENTS! 😂😡
I thought Fuller Seminary was mixed with evangelical and liberal
Does NIV-application bible get the maps right (reasonable right) on the Exodus ?
I don't know. I haven't reviewed their complete work.
Hey Dr. Faulk! I saw in a recorded lecture that Dr. Nigro doesn’t think the LB wall at Jericho existed during the LBIIb. Any thoughts? His arguments were quite convoluted and strange on that front as I get the impression he was trying to deflect from people asking about the Biblical account. . . I’ve been writing a paper in my MB-LB doctoral seminar that involved Tell es-Sultan and stumbled upon some of his lectures.
Nigro deflects on a LBIIB wall in his earlier lectures because of the implications. He wanted to avoid becoming embroiled in the controversial nature that correlating the destruction of Jericho would have with a viable timing of the Israelite Conquest. However, in his 2023 publication, Nigro is explicit that the destruction of the LB city took place in LBIIB.
@@ancientegyptandthebibleI noticed the same thing! Thanks for responding, just wanted to bounce some ideas off of someone before I present today given that Nigro has not responded to my many emails about this. 👍🏻👍🏻
@@ancientegyptandthebible Have you already read Nigro's 2023 paper? Could you tell us a bit more what Nigro says in that paper about Jericho in a future video? Thank you for the information.
*Falk 😂❤
Super random question, but do you have any comments on the word šûl from Isaiah 6:1 in reference to the hem of Gods robe versus an alternative understanding that this could be referring to Gods “bountiful manhood”?
I hope you discussed the damage that has been done with evangelicalism in terms of politics. The Wokeification of it on the Left and the sacrilegious idolatry on the Right
We don't discuss politics on this channel. We leave politics to the conscience to the individual.
I meant at the convention
@@paradisecityX0 Most of what I experienced at the conference has no relation to politics. It's a theological convention and most people stuck to that theme. 🤷♂
You did not just name it that😂😅
Btw : If you dont like 1446 - What do you think about 1644 - probably not better ???
Did you attend SBL?
Nope, I'm permanently criminally trespassed at SBL. That's because a crippled man is huge threat to everyone's safety at SBL. 😈
"buy deeply discounted books"
By saying this in the video description, do you mean that the books are sold at a cheaper price, or that they make falsified claims? I'm Christian but I have been growing more suspicious of this whole "apologetics" industry, and think that there are few that are legitimate.
What is your view on the "industry"? I haven't been able to watch the whole video yet, so forgive me if you have answered this in the video.
>> "buy deeply discounted books"
> By saying this in the video description, do you mean that the books are sold at a cheaper price, or that they make falsified claims?
I'm saying sold at a cheaper price.
> I'm Christian but I have been growing more suspicious of this whole "apologetics" industry, and think that there are few that are legitimate. What is your view on the "industry"? I haven't been able to watch the whole video yet, so forgive me if you have answered this in the video.
My view on apologetics is that it is advocacy. There is nothing inherently wrong with advocacy. Lawyers can be advocates for those who cannot defend themselves--that's a good thing--we need that kind of advocacy. But like all fields where advocacy is practised, you get some advocates who are idealistic and are good at what they do and then some who are less so. Some apologists put a lot into their learning and try really hard to get things rights. Others are quite slack and are seeking fame. It really depends upon the individual.
As we have said many times, we are not an apologetics channel--we are an education channel. We are not trying persuade anyone, although we do teach from a Christian perspective. That said, we should note that with only a few exceptions, the apologetics "industry" isn't much of an industry. Prices Law comes into play here, and 99% of apologists probably earn less than $1000/year. More do it for the love of Christ and the love of people. But again, mileage will vary with the individual.