The Fenrir hit is huge for VS, yeah. Fenrir did everything for the deck. Board presence, interaction check, and hand attribute alteration. I’d argue VS used him in a more involved manner than his own archetype did.
@@sammydray5919 as hits go, it could have been a lot worse. 99% of the time you want to search riseheart for two fires in-hand anyway. TCBOO could be argued to be a VS hit, too… but I refuse to run floodgates and I still climbed master with VS no difficulty, so the deck’s power is fine. Some might just experiment with other packages, like Zoo, instead.
@@lancerguy3667 Yeah I am not too beat up about it. Its just harder to open fenrir and now its no longer a guaranteed fire or earth in hand. And yeah I have zero issues with TCBOO hit since I never even used the floodgate in VS lol. Could be banned and I wouldn't even mind lmao.
@@TheShapestofSnatches true but I think VS is one of those decks that while strong aren't toxic or too unfair. But fair point. Atleast they didn't touch the VS cards themselves. I was half expecting a raisen or rock hit lol
noooobody cares about flooooooooo hahhaha but i love how they want to make every banlist about them :D floo is so low tier , they dont think about floo in any of the last banlists ... trust me
I've been using Time Tearing Morganite for months. In place of handtraps, I played board breakers. It's not bad, but you need to go first to get full value. Also the extra normal is crucial to play through interruptions.
I've run birth at 1 for a while because it is a brick opening with it most of the time, unless you are playing pure Kash. I have had zero problems with it at 1.
- Stun Lab? Doubt it - Ikea Lab? Bystials are a thing, also Called by on Cooclock - Ash on virtually every deck, which hard counters Lab too For all other things, there's MasterCard
The Soulpiercing Armor ban was just like what happened with Sillva Warlord of Dark World. It's just a matter of stopping something that's obviously unfair from happening.
@@armandonoriega681People would just start using iblee (some guy tried doing that to me), Jowgen (another guy tried doing that to me), Archfiend emperor, D/D/D Vice King requiem, D/D Orthtros, Ra's Disciple, and Ido. Banning Sanctifire is the real solution to the lock. If you ban gimmick puppet there's alternatives.
@@Honest_Mids_Masher Iblee being used for that lock is part of her own design and there are simple outs to her. Why would someone use Jowgen? You can just use his other effect to destroy all Special summoned monsters. The others have the same out as Iblee and Jowgen, i. e. remove them from your field and you're good. Only Orthros creates a lingering restriction but due to its lower level Branded would struggle to use it to this effect. The Puppet lock is largely enabled by Granguignol who can only Foolishly Bury Level 6 or higher monsters. Using Branded Fusion to get Orthros into the graveyard is not nearly as consistent but if it ever becomes a problem they could just ban Branded Fusion (Branded is not far off from the point where there's enough internal consistency aside from BF for this strong play to not be not as integral to the strategy as it used to).
@@xCorvus7x Yeah the guy summoned jowgen to his field and yes while Iblee has outs I'd rather not have to only be able to play by drawing those outs on top of having to put the branded board. Same thing with the rest I'd rather not have entire games being decided due to luck. If I wanted that I'd be playing GOAT format. Also there's many other cards like D/D Orthros that exist that could be used. I still don't see the reason to go about all these loopholes to limit how effective the lock itself is when banning Sanctifire and removing the lock altogether is the best solution.
As one of the sociopaths that actually liked playing pure Kash, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Punk Bystial Synchro is down the toilet too, so good thing I never made that. Puppet Lock and Lab are still running rampant wtf. As a wiseman once said: “THE BANLIST IS SH*T!”
Why did they limit Runick Destruction? That card doesn't matter for Runick Stun, as it only affects Runick's matchup against other backrow heavy decks. They should have limited Slumber or maybe Flashing Fire.
@@AlphaSquadZero Shouldn't Golden Droplet be the better and more consistent mill card, though? Your opponent needs backrow for Destruction to mill and Golden Droplet depletes the opponent's deck by five.
They should have made Kash field spell unlimited to throw us a bone, pure Kash didn't do much at all in MD. It aired as tier 2 at best and now idk if it's tier 3 or rogue.
Dragon Link had to be touched a long time ago, and I'm glad they did. Runick/Stun and Stun decks got hit, too, and I'm glad they did. To put all floodgates at one has been my suggestion for a long time, and it's healthy for the game if that happens. Dykaed called the Card of Demise hit yesterday in his channel, and it makes a lot of sense to stop Runick and Stun. The sad thing of the list is that Konami always does this to motivate players spending their gems = money on the new deck that is about to come, and a lot of bozos will follow... A lot of SHS duels at Ranked Duels are inevitable.
@Jyxero , I'm a pure SHS player, and I love the deck. But the meta slaves will crush apart my experience by playing the deck in its "Baronne Mode" and by lots of it. Anyways, we all know that Master Duel is a magnet for I-spend-all-of-my-gems-in-every-meta-deck-available players.
I'm enticed to give a spin to SHS, heck, have a couple of Sekka's light & Archfiend Eccentric getting dust... Till then, have fun with big Benkei or (Level) 12 shades of pain train
Synchro Zone is a hit to Runick stun because they play a couple Snychros in it and the Pot Desire hit might be because of Nemleria coming into Master Duel which is a mix between Dream Mirror and Kashtira. This archetype is basically Gren Maju support and can even banish more cards from the field that all Kashtira cards together.
True but it gave dark and light a easy way to search I really don't feel it was impossible game breaking not to get past someone getting the synchro (Kaiju)
Pot of desires is probably a stun hit. The runick destruction hit will make a huge difference because the most common maindeck out to the floodgates is set imperm. They probably don’t want to hit sleepy ever (UR)
Welp, maining branded now and crafting lab. Killed my most used decks (spright, runick fur hire/naturia, d link and purrley). No chaos dragons is insane. Gotta open the nuts or die to 1-2 hand traps.
Lol RIP DLink had a good run, ive been getting max rank with it since literally the start of the game, from now on it will still be a solid rogue option
Desires to 1 is some BS my favorite rouge deck is 8 axis. Tell me what meta decks run 2 or 3 desires. I can still catch wins in diamond with 8 axis by running necro valley now its nerfed more.
Longyuan back to 3, Ringowurm & Dis Pater finally here, add some Chaos Mirage Dragon.... BAM!!! Time to Swordsoul Accel Stardust into Dis Pater + Baronne + Chengying... I know crafting 3 Mo Ye is worth it...
I like how they eviscerated Dlink and Purrley, smacked Kashtira upside the head, and still haven't addressed Labryinth or really do anything to stun. I'm in mid diamond right now and the and floodgate lab is really prevalent. But thats okay i guess. Just fckn 🚫 the floodgates. No D barrier, no Skill Drain, no TCBOO, no Rivalry, no Gozen. Get rid of them. They aren't helthy for the game, and most of them are insta wins for Lab or stun.
@@Honest_Mids_Masher the only hit to stun was inspector border, which isn't much of a hit considering that they didn't ban any floodgates, they didn't ban any of the staling out monsters or cards. They still have 3 patchy, all the statues but wind at 3, still have inspector border, still have all the floodgates with plenty of them at 3. They took a swing at stun, but all they really did was ensure that the F2P version of it is more accessible.
Also, use the ur to craft 2 more chaos rulers to dismantle as well. You are allowed three dismantles in total after the banlist takes effect, and you might craft a royal that gives extra dismantle points.
@@Ragnarok540 That's exactly the point, a free chance at crafting a glossy or a royal. Because even if you don't craft a shiny card, it's still a free dismantle for your points back.
Depends on what the deck is. Obviously decks whose only purpose was to summon Chaos Ruler are done, but things like Dragon Link and Tear can still function without it and fall back on their own deck's plays.
@@TheShapestofSnatches I was looking to build the grass greener 60 card pile or 40 card just pure chaos off master duel meta also the thunder dragon variants
@@TeamZero420 that's still possible although probably with a more Tear heavy focus using Kitkallos + Tear Kash to mill instead of Chaos Ruler enablers. However many months it takes to get the Horus cards you'll also get an easy Zombie Vampire engine too
Stun deck Is the biggest loser for this limited and Forbidden list, lost 2 copy inspector border, lost card of demise, 1 copy of there can be only one where it should be only one not 2 copy, lost 2 copy of kaiser colleseum. man this card allow me to create ultimate stun, dyna or statue +moon of mirror shield +kaiser colleseum = opponent surrender. Purrely hit really hard force your to go ghostrick purrely varriant, now pure purrely is now unplayable. Terrortop at 3 is tbh is buff indirect to mannadium deck but i don think so their will used it.
Dlink players are hurt but know the deck isnt dead. Im glad Branded wasnt hit further but its time is coming. Branded has plenty of UR cards so i do think theyll go after Granguignol or cartesia.
Birth to 1 is annoying, but fine in many builds; Fenrir to 1 makes a lot of Kash boards worse (unless you run big bang, which only pure can afford to do). I felt like it was fine at 2. Also makes the Kash package kind of bad in Mannadium, oddly enough, so I might need to spend more gems on getting bystials. Joy. I wish there can be only one just got fucking banned too.
@@TheShapestofSnatches Fenrir to 2 does hit decks that splash it, but it means that your Unicorn 1 card into search Riseheart with Fenrir makes it to where Ira can't summon Fenrir from deck, so you either need big bang, or one of the other extenders to keep it on board, which makes it to where your hand has to have an extra name to get the same board. I know birth is supposed to be a pure Kash hit, but with theosis cycling with Ariseheart, it is retrievable. It sucks in pure, don't get me wrong, but Fenrir to 1 is worse.
@@AWPNubDiesel decks trying to splash a large kash package should probably just settle with a 3 mat Arise-heart. It always seemed really win more trying to add the entire Kash endboard to your own deck's actual endboard since unlike with pure Kash, it should already have more to complement or actually protect Arise
@@TheShapestofSnatches Maybe, I haven't played all the hybrids, but my PUNK boards tend to be 3 monsters with Jam dragon or Hope in the EMZ, so Ira/Ariseheart/Fenrir fills out the board. I would have to draw an insane hand, and not get interrupted, to need more zones.
Hahaha 🤣 the way u were defending having 3x kaiser colleseum had me dying if anything came out of this ban list stun loses popularity and you gave me a good laugh. In your defense you definitely didnt craft those or it would say they could be dismantled we all have them for free 😂
They canceled a style of play stun with the aim of making meta players happy and inducing everyone else to play meta and to make them unpack the new selection pack of the moment. All meta sheep will be happy, komoney sucks s h i t's money.
dont cry about runick ... decking out your opponent with banishing their cards , is maybe the most toxic archetype they ever invented (because its their main gameplan) ...
That also goes for Kashtira, too. Banishing stuff face-down is just a bad mechanic. It only exists because Konami started making cards that interact with the banish pile more often. It's bad management.
The Dragon hits are so cringe. Chaos Ruler is fine but Wyvernbuster is an awful hit. Killed the deck for no reason. It is so bad that it overshadows the rest of the list
@@sammydray5919 I never said I was suprised just disappointed. It being a good deck for a long time doesn’t mean it needs to be hit. The only reason they hit it is to force players to move to a new deck instead of continuing to play a deck they’ve enjoyed for a long time. Konami has a history of doing this. The banlist is used to push product, and destroying the deck like this is just forcing players to move to a new deck.
@@zin6352 fair but you said that they killed the deck for "no reason" When thats just not true. But hey maybe you'll enjoy playing a new deck after DL (still think DL can persevere though)
@@sammydray5919 when compared to other decks that warranted a bit more so, it was no reason. Plus I am never going to advocate for killing a deck. Hitting sure but never killing. Also, I won’t enjoy another deck. Dragon Link brought me back into ygo years ago and is all I’ve played for years. It being killed off now has destroyed any reason I have left to play so I’m just going to quit playing the game.
@@zin6352 talk about narrow minded but sure. Do as you wish. I still think the deck is salvageable and not completely deck. Not as strong but seems still playable enough without relying in chaos stuff
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The Fenrir hit is huge for VS, yeah. Fenrir did everything for the deck. Board presence, interaction check, and hand attribute alteration. I’d argue VS used him in a more involved manner than his own archetype did.
Yup. VS got a shot in the leg for no reason
@@sammydray5919 Well it was tied for the best deck in Duelist Cup and the hits were to all the non VS cards
@@sammydray5919 as hits go, it could have been a lot worse. 99% of the time you want to search riseheart for two fires in-hand anyway.
TCBOO could be argued to be a VS hit, too… but I refuse to run floodgates and I still climbed master with VS no difficulty, so the deck’s power is fine. Some might just experiment with other packages, like Zoo, instead.
@@lancerguy3667 Yeah I am not too beat up about it. Its just harder to open fenrir and now its no longer a guaranteed fire or earth in hand. And yeah I have zero issues with TCBOO hit since I never even used the floodgate in VS lol. Could be banned and I wouldn't even mind lmao.
@@TheShapestofSnatches true but I think VS is one of those decks that while strong aren't toxic or too unfair. But fair point. Atleast they didn't touch the VS cards themselves. I was half expecting a raisen or rock hit lol
CONQUISTADOR STILL AT 2 LMFAOOOOO
Sad. Just unlimit it lol. Eldlich aint gonna do a thing lmao
Meanwhile max C at 94% use : What's limit 🗿🍷?
They just forgot it there because it really doesn't make a difference.
@@xCorvus7xIt would make a difference for me trying to play zombie world Eldlich.
Bro. Wtf lol. AND meow meow at 1.
I know duality to 1 is a hit to stun but its crazy how Floo took another hit for no reason lmao
noooobody cares about flooooooooo hahhaha but i love how they want to make every banlist about them :D floo is so low tier , they dont think about floo in any of the last banlists ... trust me
I've been using Time Tearing Morganite for months. In place of handtraps, I played board breakers. It's not bad, but you need to go first to get full value. Also the extra normal is crucial to play through interruptions.
Kashtira is even more inconsistent now. Kashtira birth to 1 too :O
Birth is way too good for no reason. I actually prefer 3 fenrir over 3 birth.
I’m salty af rn
I've run birth at 1 for a while because it is a brick opening with it most of the time, unless you are playing pure Kash. I have had zero problems with it at 1.
Great. It was getting obnoxious seeing it in every deck
@@spicymemes7458 every deck except Kash only ran 1 birth
They really went ham with this one 😂 only thing I'm tight about is seeing Lab going untouched, the deck is going to dominate for sure.
- Stun Lab? Doubt it
- Ikea Lab? Bystials are a thing, also Called by on Cooclock
- Ash on virtually every deck, which hard counters Lab too
For all other things, there's MasterCard
The Soulpiercing Armor ban was just like what happened with Sillva Warlord of Dark World. It's just a matter of stopping something that's obviously unfair from happening.
Why not banning the Gimick Puppet then?
@@armandonoriega681 it will probably happen soon
@@armandonoriega681People would just start using iblee (some guy tried doing that to me), Jowgen (another guy tried doing that to me), Archfiend emperor, D/D/D Vice King requiem, D/D Orthtros, Ra's Disciple, and Ido.
Banning Sanctifire is the real solution to the lock. If you ban gimmick puppet there's alternatives.
@@Honest_Mids_Masher Iblee being used for that lock is part of her own design and there are simple outs to her.
Why would someone use Jowgen?
You can just use his other effect to destroy all Special summoned monsters.
The others have the same out as Iblee and Jowgen, i. e. remove them from your field and you're good.
Only Orthros creates a lingering restriction but due to its lower level Branded would struggle to use it to this effect. The Puppet lock is largely enabled by Granguignol who can only Foolishly Bury Level 6 or higher monsters.
Using Branded Fusion to get Orthros into the graveyard is not nearly as consistent but if it ever becomes a problem they could just ban Branded Fusion (Branded is not far off from the point where there's enough internal consistency aside from BF for this strong play to not be not as integral to the strategy as it used to).
@@xCorvus7x Yeah the guy summoned jowgen to his field and yes while Iblee has outs I'd rather not have to only be able to play by drawing those outs on top of having to put the branded board.
Same thing with the rest I'd rather not have entire games being decided due to luck. If I wanted that I'd be playing GOAT format. Also there's many other cards like D/D Orthros that exist that could be used.
I still don't see the reason to go about all these loopholes to limit how effective the lock itself is when banning Sanctifire and removing the lock altogether is the best solution.
As one of the sociopaths that actually liked playing pure Kash, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Punk Bystial Synchro is down the toilet too, so good thing I never made that. Puppet Lock and Lab are still running rampant wtf. As a wiseman once said: “THE BANLIST IS SH*T!”
I played Stun decks and I like this list just fine
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Why did they limit Runick Destruction? That card doesn't matter for Runick Stun, as it only affects Runick's matchup against other backrow heavy decks.
They should have limited Slumber or maybe Flashing Fire.
Just toss a dart at a dartboard
@@TheShapestofSnatches For real.
The running theory is that it is the best runick card that consistently banishes 4
It probably had a high rate of finisher or some shit like that.
@@AlphaSquadZero Shouldn't Golden Droplet be the better and more consistent mill card, though?
Your opponent needs backrow for Destruction to mill and Golden Droplet depletes the opponent's deck by five.
Don't know why they hit bricktira so hard.
They should have made Kash field spell unlimited to throw us a bone, pure Kash didn't do much at all in MD. It aired as tier 2 at best and now idk if it's tier 3 or rogue.
Fenrir is banned in the OCG, Arise-Heart banned in the TCG. Idk why people are undervalued this deck, but it was really good
Dragon Link had to be touched a long time ago, and I'm glad they did. Runick/Stun and Stun decks got hit, too, and I'm glad they did. To put all floodgates at one has been my suggestion for a long time, and it's healthy for the game if that happens. Dykaed called the Card of Demise hit yesterday in his channel, and it makes a lot of sense to stop Runick and Stun.
The sad thing of the list is that Konami always does this to motivate players spending their gems = money on the new deck that is about to come, and a lot of bozos will follow...
A lot of SHS duels at Ranked Duels are inevitable.
If I face an actual SHS it will be a real pleasure... But if by "SHS" you mean Barone & friends turbo, then you're right
@Jyxero , I'm a pure SHS player, and I love the deck. But the meta slaves will crush apart my experience by playing the deck in its "Baronne Mode" and by lots of it.
Anyways, we all know that Master Duel is a magnet for I-spend-all-of-my-gems-in-every-meta-deck-available players.
I'm enticed to give a spin to SHS, heck, have a couple of Sekka's light & Archfiend Eccentric getting dust...
Till then, have fun with big Benkei or (Level) 12 shades of pain train
That birth and fenrir hit online really hurts tomahawk lines
But we can just run Dragon Rulers instead :) :)
@@TheShapestofSnatches guess you can’t deny that they have the niche now
they didnt do it to hit kashtira decks , kash sucks in MD ... its just that so many decks splashed it in the deck
I'm sad ib wasn't free like she was in both tcg and ocg
My mekk knight orcust crusadia deck will have to wait 😢😢😢
Synchro Zone is a hit to Runick stun because they play a couple Snychros in it and the Pot Desire hit might be because of Nemleria coming into Master Duel which is a mix between Dream Mirror and Kashtira. This archetype is basically Gren Maju support and can even banish more cards from the field that all Kashtira cards together.
Trust me, ain't nobody hitting cards because of Nemleria
@@TheShapestofSnatches Yeah, probably... this decks basically has no Tops. One more reason to do some shit with if this deck is not too expansive.
What battle phase does runick stun need? It just completely locks the opponent out when there is a monster restricting floodgate on the field.
Nemrelia es legit dogshit. It's as bad as Dream Mirror but Gren Maju themed.
Masterduel is becoming less unique with the chaos ruler I'm a water main but the fact they took that out the game makes it kinda less mill friendly
Trust me, you still have plenty of ways to mill now and in the future
True but it gave dark and light a easy way to search I really don't feel it was impossible game breaking not to get past someone getting the synchro (Kaiju)
Nice. No more bad piles carried by Pepega Ruler.
@@CocTheElfcalled a game of chance clearly you got badluck😂
you forgot kashtira birth to 1
MATHMECHS??? modCheck
Ya. The mathmech support still on sell that why no hit same also for branded.
@@xenonim it was when they hit Diameter to 1 as well
@TheShapestofSnatches exactly why diameter went, because it doesnt hit the money card in the store
My Stun deck bro....
They hit demise and boarder😢
Pot of desires is probably a stun hit. The runick destruction hit will make a huge difference because the most common maindeck out to the floodgates is set imperm. They probably don’t want to hit sleepy ever (UR)
I haven't been able to imperm a floodgate in ages because of the existence of Munin
@@TheShapestofSnatches trust. But ideally they are clogged with hugin 🥲
Welp, maining branded now and crafting lab. Killed my most used decks (spright, runick fur hire/naturia, d link and purrley). No chaos dragons is insane. Gotta open the nuts or die to 1-2 hand traps.
If you were still playing runick combo after 1 fountain, losing 1 destruction isn't gonna matter as much.
I think you still missed the fact that Birth is at 1 too.
Nobody cares about Pure Kashtira lezbihonest
I play stun decks and I really dont mind this list. Stun will adapt as well as Dragon Link.
Lol RIP DLink had a good run, ive been getting max rank with it since literally the start of the game, from now on it will still be a solid rogue option
Yah I knew the would but why just hit white dragon and not also hit black dragon
@@lloydbagby8355 It's not necessary and if you have a Light in grave, Collapserpent is still an extender.
Deck still standing strong my brother.
Desires to 1 is some BS my favorite rouge deck is 8 axis. Tell me what meta decks run 2 or 3 desires. I can still catch wins in diamond with 8 axis by running necro valley now its nerfed more.
Longyuan back to 3, Ringowurm & Dis Pater finally here, add some Chaos Mirage Dragon.... BAM!!! Time to Swordsoul Accel Stardust into Dis Pater + Baronne + Chengying... I know crafting 3 Mo Ye is worth it...
Ringowurm and Dis Pater are awful in Swordsoul.
Kashtira birth is also going to 1😢. You forgot to remove that ...
I was anticipating Tip to 1 instead they took Destruction. Thank you I guess?
Triple Terrortop might be a problem
Is Redox DR adamancipator a good idea??😊
Vernusylphs >>>> Redox
So Adamancipator,vernusylphs and redox😮
@@zkaryiaman9953 just run it like normal without the redoxes
Redox = Block dragon
@@zkaryiaman9953 Block dragon if it went minus, doesn't search 3, and can only summon once per turn
I like how they eviscerated Dlink and Purrley, smacked Kashtira upside the head, and still haven't addressed Labryinth or really do anything to stun. I'm in mid diamond right now and the and floodgate lab is really prevalent. But thats okay i guess. Just fckn 🚫 the floodgates. No D barrier, no Skill Drain, no TCBOO, no Rivalry, no Gozen. Get rid of them. They aren't helthy for the game, and most of them are insta wins for Lab or stun.
?? The banlist did hit stun.
Eviscerated D-Link is a over statement. Trust you’re still going to see the deck.
@@DarKnight_2006 yeah. It going to make it somewhat hard for D-Link to extend there plays.
@@Honest_Mids_Masher the only hit to stun was inspector border, which isn't much of a hit considering that they didn't ban any floodgates, they didn't ban any of the staling out monsters or cards. They still have 3 patchy, all the statues but wind at 3, still have inspector border, still have all the floodgates with plenty of them at 3. They took a swing at stun, but all they really did was ensure that the F2P version of it is more accessible.
@@aLousyBum83 Hey don't forget card of demise but yeah I really would've preferred it if they outright banned them.
What deck is the Joshua Schmidt deck Mathmech?
Runick got hit for no fucking reason again oh boy
So do I dust my 2nd Fenrir now? Or do I wait until January 10?
Wait until it's actually in effect to get the bonus
Jan 10th
Bro what will happen to my chaos ruler card? Will i get a 30UR?
Dismantle it after the banlist is in effect and you'll get a full refund
Also, use the ur to craft 2 more chaos rulers to dismantle as well. You are allowed three dismantles in total after the banlist takes effect, and you might craft a royal that gives extra dismantle points.
@@ytmikelolunless you craft a glossy or royal chaos ruler, your are not getting extra UR points by doing this...
@@Ragnarok540 That's exactly the point, a free chance at crafting a glossy or a royal. Because even if you don't craft a shiny card, it's still a free dismantle for your points back.
I’m excited to play super heavy, and even speedroid to an extent with 3 top
do you think that the chaos decks are unplayable post this list ban list
Depends on what the deck is. Obviously decks whose only purpose was to summon Chaos Ruler are done, but things like Dragon Link and Tear can still function without it and fall back on their own deck's plays.
@@TheShapestofSnatches I was looking to build the grass greener 60 card pile or 40 card just pure chaos off master duel meta also the thunder dragon variants
@@TeamZero420 that's still possible although probably with a more Tear heavy focus using Kitkallos + Tear Kash to mill instead of Chaos Ruler enablers. However many months it takes to get the Horus cards you'll also get an easy Zombie Vampire engine too
Kinda crazy banlist tbh.
All the while kashtira birth being ignored while it was also limited
Stun deck Is the biggest loser for this limited and Forbidden list, lost 2 copy inspector border, lost card of demise, 1 copy of there can be only one where it should be only one not 2 copy, lost 2 copy of kaiser colleseum. man this card allow me to create ultimate stun, dyna or statue +moon of mirror shield +kaiser colleseum = opponent surrender. Purrely hit really hard force your to go ghostrick purrely varriant, now pure purrely is now unplayable. Terrortop at 3 is tbh is buff indirect to mannadium deck but i don think so their will used it.
Nice banlist to appease the soul ❤
Dragon Ruler at full power now
This Day is a great day ❤❤❤😂😂😂
Just hot into dragon links now they ban it :(
I don't think terrortop is a problem it only gets you to the problem which you are going to hand trap
The main thing is terrortop doesn't cost any resources to get you there, not even your normal summon.
@@TheShapestofSnatches yes apart from playing the Garnett, assuming you're not playing a wind attribute deck
I still like my Branded synchro deck.
I just crafted a second fenrir....
Don't worry you'll just get the cp back
You love to see it
Dlink players are hurt but know the deck isnt dead. Im glad Branded wasnt hit further but its time is coming. Branded has plenty of UR cards so i do think theyll go after Granguignol or cartesia.
Pour one out for the king, the Ruler of Chaos.
You forgot birth also to 1, kashtira is gone now.
Birth to 1 is annoying, but fine in many builds; Fenrir to 1 makes a lot of Kash boards worse (unless you run big bang, which only pure can afford to do). I felt like it was fine at 2. Also makes the Kash package kind of bad in Mannadium, oddly enough, so I might need to spend more gems on getting bystials. Joy. I wish there can be only one just got fucking banned too.
Birth to 1 is a hit to pure Kash, Fenrir to 1 is a hit to everything else
@@TheShapestofSnatches Fenrir to 2 does hit decks that splash it, but it means that your Unicorn 1 card into search Riseheart with Fenrir makes it to where Ira can't summon Fenrir from deck, so you either need big bang, or one of the other extenders to keep it on board, which makes it to where your hand has to have an extra name to get the same board. I know birth is supposed to be a pure Kash hit, but with theosis cycling with Ariseheart, it is retrievable. It sucks in pure, don't get me wrong, but Fenrir to 1 is worse.
@@AWPNubDiesel decks trying to splash a large kash package should probably just settle with a 3 mat Arise-heart. It always seemed really win more trying to add the entire Kash endboard to your own deck's actual endboard since unlike with pure Kash, it should already have more to complement or actually protect Arise
@@TheShapestofSnatches Maybe, I haven't played all the hybrids, but my PUNK boards tend to be 3 monsters with Jam dragon or Hope in the EMZ, so Ira/Ariseheart/Fenrir fills out the board. I would have to draw an insane hand, and not get interrupted, to need more zones.
I can assure you Bystisl’s will be hit in the future.
chaos ruler, i fine with that. but wyvebuster? wth konami
Terrortop to 3 helps push zoodiacs out
How
@@Clickonmychannel123 terrortop into taketomborg into invoker into summon any zodiac name without your normal summon
@@AxielFanor isolde for goukis... This is a way to tell us infernobles will come out next year
So unfair the ban of wyvernbuster. T.T
THIS THE BEST BAN LIST EVER YES FINALLY 😁🎉🎉🎉
I understand birth but fenrir to 1 ??☹ cmon, they should limit arise instead.
It wasn't a hit to Kashtira
He will get banned in the next banlist sadly
It’s not arise, it’s being a free summon, search and banish that you could throw 2 of in any control/stun deck to make them much more annoying
rip stun lol
chaos ruler ban yes it deserve to be ban fcking card yes baby finaly
Wyverburster hit was definetly overkill
Thie fucked the deck completely
Give it a few weeks and someone is going to have a new version on YT. Be patient
BEST BANLIST EVER... fuck stun, fuck runick ...nerf the dragons! we just need to get rid of UMI control plebs
Oh yeah I forgot Umi Control still exists. Thanks for the tip
@@spicymemes7458 NOOOOO ! NOOOOOOOO :D
@@itsjayn4538
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Under the sea
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Down where it's wetter
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Hahaha 🤣 the way u were defending having 3x kaiser colleseum had me dying if anything came out of this ban list stun loses popularity and you gave me a good laugh. In your defense you definitely didnt craft those or it would say they could be dismantled we all have them for free 😂
Isolde piles still just lose to nib and maxx C
Nib, no. Maxx C yes but that's not unique or anything
@@TheShapestofSnatches What do isolde piles do after you nib their rescue ferret or whatever other shenanigans they're up to?
They canceled a style of play stun with the aim of making meta players happy and inducing everyone else to play meta and to make them unpack the new selection pack of the moment. All meta sheep will be happy, komoney sucks s h i t's money.
Stun WAS meta. It was tier 2 and had more spots in the top 100 of Duelist Cup than Labrynth and Kashtira combined
I think with this ban list, manadium scareclaw will be shot at the top tbh
That was weak ass attempt to slow down Dlink. I can name several cards that would have bigger impact.
Eh, there's only like 1 that would be more impactful
Rip Bozos!
dont cry about runick ... decking out your opponent with banishing their cards , is maybe the most toxic archetype they ever invented (because its their main gameplan) ...
That also goes for Kashtira, too. Banishing stuff face-down is just a bad mechanic. It only exists because Konami started making cards that interact with the banish pile more often. It's bad management.
@@spicymemes7458 i think everyone knows kashtira is the most degenerate archetype out so far
The Dragon hits are so cringe. Chaos Ruler is fine but Wyvernbuster is an awful hit. Killed the deck for no reason. It is so bad that it overshadows the rest of the list
Its been one of the top decks for very long. Why are you surprised it got hit? Also the deck is still probably playable in some capacity
@@sammydray5919 I never said I was suprised just disappointed. It being a good deck for a long time doesn’t mean it needs to be hit. The only reason they hit it is to force players to move to a new deck instead of continuing to play a deck they’ve enjoyed for a long time. Konami has a history of doing this. The banlist is used to push product, and destroying the deck like this is just forcing players to move to a new deck.
@@zin6352 fair but you said that they killed the deck for "no reason" When thats just not true. But hey maybe you'll enjoy playing a new deck after DL (still think DL can persevere though)
@@sammydray5919 when compared to other decks that warranted a bit more so, it was no reason. Plus I am never going to advocate for killing a deck. Hitting sure but never killing. Also, I won’t enjoy another deck. Dragon Link brought me back into ygo years ago and is all I’ve played for years. It being killed off now has destroyed any reason I have left to play so I’m just going to quit playing the game.
@@zin6352 talk about narrow minded but sure. Do as you wish. I still think the deck is salvageable and not completely deck. Not as strong but seems still playable enough without relying in chaos stuff
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Bruh i just recently finished making a dragonlink deck too, i guess its back to mathmech or @ignister
The deck's still playable and is still probably gonna maintain meta status but you'd have to invest in other cards.