One point which shias miss is that you are agreeing that Imamah was given to Ibrahim as AFTER he became Prophet,which means he became Prophet first and then Imam. So how can Ali as and his offspring as become the Imam when they were not first Prophets like Ibrahim as was a Prophet first?
Sky Height Mathematics I somewhat agree. The office that the Shia mean is wilaayah or mawlawiyyah which is a duty to care of the believers. Ali also had the office of wizaaratu-nabeeyi because his status to the prophet Muhammad SAAS was that of Aaron SAAS to Moses SAAS. Imaamah is just leadership and God made Abraham SAAS a leader for all the worlds after completing the test with God's words. That is why we follow millatu Ibraheem and why we must take his uswah/sunnah.
Sky Height Mathematics But if you read the verse, prophet Ibrahim a.s asked Allah for imams to be from his progeny, what was the condition set by Allah? Those who are unjust will not be receive the post/rank of imamate. Further: It was the tests that made prophet Ibrahim a.s into an Imam. Allah was showing the high rank of imamate is above prophethood. And since prophethood messengership ended with our final beloved prophet Muhammad p, the verse 2:124 indicates that the post of imamate will always continue if there are just individuals from the progeny of Prophet ibrahim a.s. After the prophet, who are the just, pure individuals ? His Ahlulbayt a.s The prophet left after him TWO weighty things: the Qur'an and the Ahlulbayt. Today's imam of time is the al Mahdi p . الإمامة الابراهيمية Alot can be deduced from this verse. May Allah guide you and me towards His mercy
Imamah is something that Allah gives to someone he wants. It is not like human things that for example you first should be 18 and then you will become 19! Like Taloot(طالوت) that actually was a man in a village and nobody did know him but Allah made him the King of bani israel!
Whoever told you this did not God say that I am making the earth a successor, and the word of the Maker is a promise and made until the Day of Resurrection?
@@arigatosev3n880 Oh really?? You’re telling me a SINGLE “Sunni” out there can exist who doesn’t automatically have to both believe in & follow your Three Musketeers as the correct guardians of the Ummah’s leadership after our holy Prophet’s demise? And that these three “leaders” weren’t responsible for seizing Fadak from Lady Fatima on religious grounds, or altering the entirety of modern prayer, or supposedly compiling the Quran? Also: then why did Abu Bakr order the execution of Malik bin Nuwayra; what gave him the right if he had no religious authority within the Sunni ideology’s dogma?? Your entire Takfiri worldview is “crap”
@@corpsefoot758 You didn't get the point, did you? Imamah is the most important pillar of 12ver Shi'ism (after shahadatayn). I'll be a kafir and condemned into hellfire for eternity for rejecting imamah. As for khilafah, it is never in our main creed, let alone the most important one. Learn the difference. And yet you'll never find any verse clearly mentioning that you have to believe in the imamah of the 12. NONE.
@@abumuhammad6978 1) Muslims are only tested on the context of their knowledge, so if they were only brought up with the brainwashing of Bakri text then they will not be automatically punished for rejecting an Imamate they weren’t even shown the benefit of 2) Saqifa is never mentioned in Quran clearly, but that doesn’t stop your sect from following it (let alone Abu Bakr’s hilariously ignorant method of handing it off to Umar) 3) If Khulafa are no big deal, why was Malik bin Nuwayra swiftly executed for opposing it? What gave Abu Bakr the authority of depriving the greatest woman in existence Syeda Fatima (AS) her own inheritance? What about Husayn ibn Ali (AS), or Hujr bin Adi?? Why does your sect keep running from these questions?
وَجَعَلْنَـٰهُمْ أَئِمَّةًۭ يَدْعُونَ إِلَى ٱلنَّارِ ۖ وَيَوْمَ ٱلْقِيَـٰمَةِ لَا يُنصَرُونَ ٤١ We made them Imams inviting ˹others˺ to the Fire. And on the Day of Judgment they will not be helped Damn, didn't know these Imams could have this high of status
People asking for immama in Qur'an seems like they have proven 4 caliphs from Qur'an although immama is there in Qur'an but they find it difficult to swallow it and they vomit it saying it's just prophet hood ... Then why Allah is making Ibrahim a prophet again when Allah had already made him prophet earlier ... Do they think God forgot that MA' AZALLAH ... ?
The differences is shias dont make the foundation of islam on 4 caliphs but shias do, thats why sunnis ask shias to prove it from quran. Shias hold it even as one of their 5 pillars islam, imamah. Can you show anyone in the Qur'an who wasn't a prophet who was named an imam?
@@AbuFadl if caliphate is not a pillar of Islam then why it's necessary to believe in it for being a Muslim in Sunni school of thought ...? Then what is the status of caliphate in Islam if it's not a pillar of Islam and you accept that it's not a Quranic concept neither it's a recommendation of prophet PBUH let alone an obligation As for Imama ...prophet Ibrahim was distinguish as an Imam other then being a prophet .... Because God after appointing him as prophet asked him that He will test you Ibrahim and when Ibrahim fulfilled the tests Allah said now I will make you imam .... It's in Sura Ibrahim If you think Imam means prophet then why Allah is saying to Ibrahim that He will make you a prophet (again) ? Did Allah forgot that Ibrahim is already a prophet Ma'azallah ? So no imam before Ibrahim as per Qur'an ...
@@hammadhussain4422 just incase you didnt know Sunni Muslims believe in 5 pillars which islam is based upon which we can prove each of them from the Qur'an: 1. Shahaadatayn 2. Salah 3. Zakat 4. Ramadan 5. Hajj Shia pillars: 1. Salat 2. Zakat 3. Ramadan 4. Hajj 5. Wilayah/imamah Show us where Allah told us to believe in imamah as shia believe in the Qur'an? I never ever said imamah is same as prophet so please stop with the strawman argument. I said show me in the Qur'an where there is a person who is an imam but not a prophet? If Ibrahim was a prophet promoted to imam, he is both a prophet and imam, right? Then how are the 12 imams better than ibrahim when they were only imams but ibrahim was a prophet & imam?
@@AbuFadl if you accept that imama is another status then just prophecy then you should also know that Ibrahim made a dua to ALLAH to keep this Imamat in my offsprings Which Allah accepted with a condition that it would not be for zalimeen .... So we know who is Khatimul nabiyeen ... But is there any khatimul Aimma ? Holly prophet told us that from His progeny there will be IMAM MEHDI ... And also told that there will 12 Imams after me So we have enough of proof to believe that IMAMA in offsprings of Ibrahim is not finished yet based on Qur'an and narrations of Holly prophet ... Now give any evidence for caliphate or at least describe what is the status of caliphate in your sect ... Is it obligation to believe in it , if so , from where do you prove it in Qur'an ?
@@hammadhussain4422 Easy, because according to the Qur'an- we only see those who were prophets were imams, so we do know that ibrahim had many prophets in his lineage who were leaders of their communities. Therefor idk how shias come to the conclusion in which this verse is referring ONLY to their 12 imams, its really not clear. And for argument sake, even if this imamah was given to your 12 imams- where do yo get qualities of having the unseen knowledge as mentioned in al kaafi, knowing a when, where, how theyll die, controlling the atoms of the universe, understanding like a million languages, etc.- where do you derive these qualities from the Qur'an? And you still havent answered, how are the 12 imams better than ibrahim since he was a prophet AND imam? Secondly, the same places you get the narration of 12 imams from, the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم also mentions 12 khulufaa. It has been narrated on the authority of Jabir b. Samura who said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: Islam will continue to be triumphant until there have been twelve Caliphs. Then the Prophet (ﷺ) said something which I could not understand. I asked my father: What did he say? He said: He has said that all of them (twelve Caliphs) will be from the Quraish." The wording of imam and Khalifah is not an issue for me, i accept both. But interesting, the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم says Islam will be "strong" until the succession of the 12. But shiw shias dont believe Islam was strong during the time of their imams, in fact their imams were "usurped" of their right to rule, they were oppressed & some imposters were ruling and corrupted the deen according to the 12vers. So these 12 cant be the imams whom shia hold too.
Namaz and roza both are compulsory and non can leave but when you talk more about something it means it has more importance more role that play in your life and other as well same as namaz
Nobody is contesting that the words "Imamah" or "Welayah" are not in the Quran. The argument is that the creed of Imamah, that Ahl ut tashee adhere to, is no where to be found in the Quran. And such a consequential creedal position must be backed by the Mus'haf itself and not left to conjecture and varying interpretations from people with various biases and agendas (both in favour as well as opposite).
S4133m well by your logic the just nature of all of the companions is not true because it's nowhere to be found in the Quran the Quran states that Allah purified the AhlulBayt and numerous Hadith state that Imam Ali is the leader and successor after the Prophet (S) not to mention the fact that 2 of our 5 daily prayers are not mentioned in the Quran at all, don't you get it you idiot? Allah wants us to go to the Prophet (S) and to research through HIM our faith as the Quran states that the messenger is supposed to explain what was revealed to the people
Brother without hate, Muhammad hijab even believes that we should follow the Quran and ahlulbayt and took the Hadith as real. Go check in Imamate in speakers corner, or else check my UA-cam channel where I exposed wuhabi discourse, or wuhabi defense. Salam
@@islamicbeliever1179 The question only was about the creed of Imamat not what Mr X believes or doesn't believe. These Imams are thought to be higher in status than prophets. Qadianis are getting so much rough treatment on believing in one zilli nabi but here Ahl ut Tashee believe in not 1, 2 but 12 super duper prophets. This is serious matter . . .
@@ImpatientStudent brother, so when you bring me up fulan fulan said the quran is not preserved, does that mean all shias say that? When a shi'i says the murder of fatimah didn't happen, does that mean all the shia believe that. Dont say to me just because of one (smart) sunni believes that the quran and ahlulbayt are the words of what the prophet said. No, but rather say to the people that spread lies about us. Salam brother
Claiming that certain scholars agree with you is different than saying there is no dispute. If prophets are born as prophets and have 3ismah from birth than they automatically have imaamah which is being a resource and an example for people to look to for guidance naturally or officially.
that's not true at all, imamah is a specific position, that is not meant for everybody. just like how every prophet is a messenger but not every messenger is a prophet.
Salat is more important than Siyam in terms of precedence. One can be excused from fasting due to health or sickness, not so Salat. There is a sound hadith that says, 'difference between Imam and Kufr is salat'.
Where is your proof of this Prophet Jonas was placed in a whale’s stomach for committing the “lesser good”. Show me a single case of Ali ibn Abi Talib receiving the same
It is mentioned in Sunni text that Ali was to our Prophet as Harun was to Musa (Sahih Bukhari) It is also mentioned that Umar once tried reciting the Torah to our Prophet, and upon getting angered by this, our Prophet also clarified that even Musa would have been a member of his Ummah if he were alive up until then (Mishkat al-Masabih) Put simply: Sunni texts say that Ali (AS) is the heir to our Prophet’s position, and they also say prophet Musa (AS) would have been a member of the Ummah Therefore, Sunni texts claim Ali ibn Abi Talib outranks nabi Musa, quite simple
The point isn't the conclusion of comparison but the logic used to get to that conclusion. The process is just as important as the result. It's like doing a math equation completely wrong and so the teacher marks your answer wrong even if you happened to guess correctly.
I dont see a verse describing how to pray or even the number of Rakat for each prayer. The Quran provides us with guidance on who we should follow and we follow who the Prophet (sawas) declared to follow. It's very simple.
Praying 2 rakat for fajr is wajib. Can you show me where in the Qur’an All-h says to pray 2 rakat for fajr? In the Qur’an, All-h says in Surah 5 verse 6 to wipe your feet when you make Wudhu. How can you be convinced of a concept from the Quran when your own action contradicts what the Quran teaches?
Shaun Abbas Don’t be an ignoramus. According to the Shi’i theology, the only way towards salvation is through Ahlul Bayt, and the fact that Allaah doesn’t tell us who they are or even remotely allude to following them is very problematic for you. Allaah mentions the Fig and the Olive but doesn’t even mention your Imamah.
Halaal Muslim Surah 4 verse 59: “Oh you who believe, obey Allah, obey the Prophet, and obey those in authority from amongst you” Sunnis stopped at Allah and the Prophet. Shi’as extended their obedience to those who have authority from amongst them. Prophet Muhammad said that those who have authority from amongst us are his progeny the Ahlul Bayt (as’) To add to that, Allah (swt) purified the Ahlul Bayt and kept them away from all impurities as highlighted in Surah 33 verse 33 Last thing I would like to mention is that in Sahih Muslim, Zayd Ibn Arqam narrates that the Prophet Muhammad said “I leave behind for you two equally weighty things, the book of Allah and my progeny my Ahlul Bayt. Hold onto them and you will never go astray”. If you don’t believe me, go to Sunnah.com and type “Khumm” in the search bar :) Also just wanted to say, Sunni scholars classify those who only demand Qur’an as a source of proof as Fasiqs (those who violate Islamic law)
Brother love dose not mean authority Moses give his status for certain period and he came back he not gvn as a whole after prophet no isma no masoom doer is closed for that still u not gvn clear evidence of imam
Allah says if u right give evidence in front of rasuallah Ali .Omar. usman. Abubakar is nothing they get value because of rasuallah Islam is all about seerah of rasuallah not imamat first learn Islam with clear heart
sad that the muslims are arguing over the best of people Allah s.w granted janah before they passed away.. i hope you people know when the day of judgement comes non will be asked about the state of our prophets or awliyas ...and non will receive a price for that
if we believe that quran is a book of guidance to the believers then it would have been clearly mentioned in quran about imamah. only theology and logic is not enough to establish an aqeedah
Please show me where does it say in the quran to pray 17 rakats daily? Or how to pray? I mean prayer is the most fundamental part of a Muslims life without it that person is not considered a Muslim so why isn't the number of rakats and the manner of prayer is mentioned explicitly in the quran? Please answer
Why don’t you respond to Rey Farce’s comment? I agree 100%, that namaz is the most important pillar of the religion. Prophet Muhammad said that namaz in relation to Islam is like the head in relation to the body. Without the head, the body is useless, without namaz, Islam is useless. So if namaz is so important, surely Allah would have added the amount of rakat we have to pray daily. So can you show me a verse that says how many rakat to pray?
@@reyfarce5697 Quran says to Pray, but didn't say how many rakayats. So we ask you to show where is Ayat to follow Imamah, but we even don't ask you how many Imams, although your Shia book Al Kafi counted as 13 Imams in one place, 6 Imams in another and even must be only 4 Imams.
If you don't believe in imamat you want clear ayat then you believe in 4 imam give me one clear ayat about them please don't get angry just for knowledge be calm we can disagree with each others but in Islam we are all muslims
I do not think any Sunni believes those 4 or any person after the Prophet AS to be appointed by Allah. These 4 and any other person is not the final authority. According to Sunni belief no person has the final authority after the Prophet AS.
hadith al-thaghalayn: ahlulbayt and quran are together till paradise. that makes 12 shia imams infallible, and superior than following the Sunnis caliph.2-quran says dont follow the (fallible sunnis caliph) sinner👈 76:24 !! sunnah.com/urn/636710
Nothing stopped prophet from naming them and not being vague who he left behind. Every sect can use this verse to align it with their beliefs and say this verse is referring to their leaders.
@@arigatosev3n880 Who says the Bakri sect accepted or preserved everything our Prophet said? Do you not remember Umar rejecting our holy Prophet’s request for a written will on his deathbed? What do you even think was going to be written in that document? Further proof of this: even Sahih Bukhari records our Prophet stating that Ali (AS) would be to him “like Harun was to Musa”; did you ever see nabi Musa allowing three Saqifa-born interruptions between him and Harun??
I think the shaykh contradicted himself. On one hand he says the logic of Abu Hanifa is faulty when he tried to prove that prayer was superior to fasting by using analogy, the shaykh has a good point here. But the shaykh uses the same logic to prove the superiority of imamah to prophethood, that just because imamah was the last thing given to Ibrahim it is therefore superior. You cannot have it both ways, both assumptions are just guesswork and analogy.
There was no contradictions in thought whatsoever, and it was only that you THOUGHT there was. Consider: Abu Hanifa's argument was on the basis of the quantity of mentions, and how if something has a higher quantity of mentions in the Quran it is taken more superior. That logic doesn't apply to Imamah what so ever, because it is clearly stated that he was elevated from Nabi, to Rasuul, to Khalilullah, and THEN TO Imam. It's literally a hierarchy of stages, Imamah isn't higher than prophethood because it was last therefore it is superior but because it's inherently a higher stage, otherwise he wouldn't receive it. It's like me saying, ok you're an Employee, now you're an Assistant Manager and now the Regional Manager. Regional Manager isn't higher than Employee because it was given to you LAST, it's higher because on the hierarchy it is higher. Otherwise by your logic, if Imamah isn't higher than Prophethood, was Nabi Ibrahim(AS) given a demotion? No.
He didn’t contradict himself at all. Your wrong! Imamah is a concept mentioned in the Holy Qur’an in many places. It’s truth. It only makes sense that every Prophet had a successor. Chosen only by ALLAH (swt). Let’s also remember that Abu Hanifa was the student of Imam Jafar Al-Sadiq (as) our 6th Imam. So naturally the teacher is always going to be more knowledgeable than the student. So his logic is perfectly accurate and flawless.
He has proven nothing but just beating around the bush. Allah granted Imamah to Ibrahim (as), so?The question is where is the proof in Quran regarding the imaginary 12 Imams of Shia sect? His arguments are merely an exercise to keep the blind followers happy and provide false reassurance that what we are following is not wrong when another Muslim questions their belief in Imamah.
از تحریر عباس علی ہسپر نگر گلگت ) قرآن کے اصطلاح میں امام اور خلیفہ میں کیا فرق ہے؟؟؟ لوگوں کے نظر میں امام کون ہوتا ہے ؟؟؟ عموماً لوگوں کا خیال ہوتا کہ امام مسلمانوں کا وہ رہنما ہوتا ہے جو لوگوں کو رہنمائی کرتا ، دینی تعلیم دیتا ، تربیت کرتا ہے۔۔ دین کی باتیں بتاتا ہے اور انہیں آخرت سے ڈراتا ہے۔۔۔ اکثر لوگوں کا خام خیا ل ہے کہ امام مسجد ، فقہ اور پھر احادیث کا ہوتا ہے جبکہ قرآن کے مطابق ایسا نہیں ہے ۔۔ ہر مذہب کا کوئی نہ کوئی پیشوا ہوتا ہے اور اس مذہب کے ماننے والے انکو عزت کی نگاہ دیکھتے ہیں۔ مثلا عیسائیوں کے ہاں پادری ہوتا ہے اور پادری کو اور بہت نامون سے جانا جاتا ہے مثلاً Bishop یا vicar ۔۔۔ اسی طرح ہندو مذہب کے ہاں پنڈت ہوتے ہیں جنہیں کو اور بھی ناموں سے جانا جاتا ہے۔مثلا یوگی، سوامی ، گرو ، اور یوگن وغیرہ۔۔۔ مسلمان کے ہاں امام ہوتا ہے جنہیں خلیفہ بھی کہا جاتا ہے۔ امام از قرآن!!! قرآن مجید میں بہت مرتبہ لفظ امام آیا ہے ایک مرتبہ سورہ البقرہ (2)کی آیت 124 میں اور سورہ القصص (28) کی آیت نمبر 41 میں ۔۔ جب ابراہیم ( علیہ السلام ) کو ان کے رب نے کئی کئی باتوں سے آزمایا اور انہوں نے سب کو پورا کر دیا تو اللہ نے فرمایا کہ میں تمہیں لوگوں کا امام بنا دوں گا عرض کرنے لگے میری اولاد کو فرمایا میرا وعدہ ظالموں سے نہیں ۔ سورۃ البقرہ آیت 124. واضح رہے کہ اللّٰہ نے جب حضرت ابراہیم علیہ السلام کو امام بنایا تو انہوں نے دعا کہ اللّٰہ میرے اولاد کو بھی(امام بناؤ).. جس کا مکمل زکر پرانا عہد نامے کے کتاب پیدائش کے باب 17 آیت 20 میں آیا ہے ۔۔ اِسمٰعیل کے حق میں بھی مَیں نے تیری دُعا سُنی۔ دیکھ مَیں اُسے برکت دُونگا اور اُسے برومند کرونگا اور اُسے بہت بڑھاؤنگا اور اُس سے بارہ سردار پَیدا ہونگے اور مَیں اُسے بڑی قوم بناؤنگا۔۔۔ یاد رکھیں اس دعا میں نہ صرف بارہ امام کا زکر ہے بلکہ بلکہ ان کی بڑی قوم کا ہونے کا بھی وعدہ ہے۔۔۔۔ اب سوال یہ ہوتا ہے کہ آخر وہ بارہ امام یا پھر سردار ہے کون؟؟؟ جب ہم حتٰی کہ اہل سنت کے احادیث کا مطالعہ حدیث کا مطالعہ کرتے ہیں تو ہمیں پتہ چلتا ہے کہ حضرت محمد صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے بھی انکی بشارت دی ہیں مثلا رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے فرمایا کہ ان کے بعد بارہ خلفاء ہوں گے۔ ہم مشکوٰۃ المصابیح میں پڑھتے ہیں: میں نے رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کو یہ فرماتے ہوئے سنا کہ اسلام بارہ خلفاء تک شان و شوکت سے نہیں رہے گا، ان میں سے ہر ایک قریش سے ہے۔ (اور ایک روایت میں ہے) ’’لوگوں کے معاملات اس وقت تک زوال پذیر نہیں ہوں گے جب تک کہ ان پر بارہ آدمی حکومت کریں گے، ان میں سے ہر ایک قریش سے آئے گا۔ اور ایک روایت میں ہے: دین قائم رہے گا یہاں تک کہ قیامت آجائے کیونکہ ان پر بارہ خلفاء ہوں گے، ان میں سے ہر ایک قریش سے ہے۔ مشکوٰۃ المصابیح جلد 4 ص 576، حدیث 5۔ ان روایات سے ہمیں یہ پتہ چلا کہ رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم کے بعد اس امت کے حکمران کی تعداد بارہ ہی بتائی گئی ہے۔۔۔ اب سوال یہ پیدا ہوتا ہے کہ وہ تو خلفاء کے بارے میں کہا تھا اس میں آپ کے امام کے بارے میں کہا سے زکر آیا ؟؟ خلیفہ مسلمانون کے نزدیک وہ ہوتا ہے جو مسلمانوں کے اور حکومت کرے۔ جبکہ قرآن کے اصطلاح میں ایسی کوئی بات نہیں ۔ قرآن مجید قرآن مجید میں لفظ خلیفہ انبیاء کرام کے لے استعمال ہوا ہے ۔۔۔ اور یاد رکھیں کہ ہر نبی حکمران نہیں بنا ۔۔۔ اور اگلی بات حضرت آدم علیہ السلام کو بھی خلیفہ کہا ہے اب کوئی مسلمان ہمیں یہ بتائیں کہ حضرت آدم علیہ السلام نے کتنے سال حکومت کی ہے ؟؟؟ سورہ البقرہ آیت 30۔ اب بات واضح ہو چکی ہے کہ امام اور خلیفہ ایک ہی معنی رکھتے ہیں اور یہ دونوں الفاظ انبیاء علیہم السلام کے کے استمال ہوے ہیں۔ اور یاد رکھیں کہ ہر نبی حکمران نہیں بنا.... اور یہ بھی یاد رکھیں کہ شیعہ وہ واحد فرقہ ہے۔جو بارہ امام یا خلفاء کو مانتے ہیں۔ اگر پھر بھی کوئی اعتراض ہے تو اور کوئی بارہ سردار کو ماننے والا فرقہ بتائیں!!! اور یہ بھی مزید یاد رکھیں کہ حکومت کا حق بارہ امام ہی کو تھا۔ اگر انہیں انکی حق سے محروم رکھا تو اس کا مطلب یہ نہیں کہ وہ خلیفہ یا امام نہیں۔۔۔۔ آخر میں اللّٰہ سے دعا ہے کہ ہمیں صراط مستقیم پر چلنے کی توفیق عطا فرمائے!!! یا اللّٰہ ہم تیری ہی عبادت کرتے ہیں اور تجھ ہی سے مدد مانگتے ہیں۔۔
Remember Ali his position was taken by abdukar after the death of muhamed And remember prophet said am the city of knowledge and ali is the gate If u dont believe why is it in gathering of quran Ali was called reason he knew all the quran in his head . Some times dont follow what u had but gather what u know to get the answer
Is he a scholar or an ignorant? It is difficult to recompensate salaah because salaah has to be offered every day, 5 times a day. But except Ramadan, fasting is not compulsory in the remaining 11 months, so it is convenient to recompensate the missed fasts anytime during the 11 months. That is why keeping the missed fasts are to be kept after Ramadan and for missed salah there is no such compulsions.
Are you stupid? Salat takes maximum 7 minutes. Sawm takes almost half a day or more for just 1 missed fast. Even if a woman misses 4 days of fast, she has to fast for 4 days later. Which will take atleast 4 days if no breaks taken. On the other hand, salah for the whole 4 days missed can be offered within 2-3 hours . So which one is more difficult. Hence proved he is a scholar quoting an imam and you are an ignorant.
@ghalib Ahmed The belief in praying 2 rakat for fajr is sunnah, and not required whereas in shiism, the belief in the imamah is a concept for all shias to believe in, making it required
@@ghalibahmed6676 and also what difference does it have in the five pillars of islam that you have to know that there is 124,000 prophets, Is it a sin to believe this or to no believe it?
Ya Shaikh, How does this logic imply that Muslims would have Imams of that stature after the last Prophet AS? Do you mean Shia Imams are higher in ranking than Prophets?
they are higher in ranking than all prophets other than nabi Muhammad saww. and before you say this isn’t possible in the Holy Quran, as said in the video, that Nabi Ibrahim as was made an imam after being a nabi and rasool. the fact that he was a nabi and rasool and then an imam proves that it is a higher status that prophethood
The 12 Imams are higher in rank than every Prophet except Muhammad (S) This is why in Shi’a literature when Imam Mahdi is referenced, it is specifically mentioned that he will lead Prophet Isa (A) in group prayer
Usul ad-Din, the five roots of religion, can also be referred to as the 'foundation of faith'. They are: Tawhid (the Oneness of Allah), & Adalat (justice), prophethood (nubuwwah), imamate (leadership) & last is Resurrection (Qayamat).
I have a sincere question. I am thinking about becoming Shi’a but I would like to ask, if Imamah is higher than prophethood then that would mean that the Imams are higher than Muhammad (SAWA) who was only a messenger? This cannot be true
Salam alaikum, The Prophet also posses Imamah as he functions as a leader and protector over the religion, much like Ibrahim who was both prophet and imam. The Prophet states in narrations authentic to scholars Sunni and Shia that Imam Ali is unto The Prophet as Haroon was unto Musa except no prophet comes after Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family), implying clearly that there is a further authority status that these individuals posses that is passed on just as it was passed from Musa unto Haroon when Musa went on the mountain for 40 days. There are things to say further than this but I will it leave it here. :) May Allah (SWT) bless you and your family. Salam alaikum.
Of course the Holy Prophet(S) is higher, he has the highest standard when it comes to the eyes of Allah(SWT) and is the greatest creation of Allah(SWT). Refer to what brother Bo Jangles has said, the Imams(AS) succeeded him and completed his mission, it doesn't mean that they're higher than the Holy Prophet(S).
The Imams are of higher status than all prophet except for Prophet Muhammad. As Shias we believe that Islam is only true religion, the Quran is better than all other scriptures and messages, and the prophet is better than all other prophets before him. Therefor the ones chosen by Allah (Ahlul Bayt) to carry this religion forward after the demise of prophet Muhammad are of higher status than all other prophets except for prophet Muhammad because they were chosen to lead the greatest religion
@@ghalibahmed6676 Yes my dear brother to understand a book we don't know we need a teacher and a book like quran can only be explained by its owner(prohet) but now Prohet hood has ended now we are in dire need of a teacher which logically proves imamah who are ahlesunnats imam anyways the 4 who never saw Prohet and were students of our imam or they beleive quran is enough Shias have challenged sunne many times but they always ran like a I won't say there are many indirect references to imamah and ahlebait in quran for example first word الم means aale muhammad what other meaning can it give and also the event of hazrat moosa a.s but they just won't understand
What I have come to udnerstand, because i had the same issues, is that For Muslims its compulsory to follow Allah, Rasool saww and those Owner of Amr (Divine command).. Surah Nisa 59 And since we consider Aimah to be the ulil Amr, Its wajib on us to follow them. and Since its wajib to follow them above any other Prophet except Mohammed pbuh hence their words are above the words and their status is above the status of other prophets, as its not wajib for us to Obey other prophets, just to believe they were righteous and respect them..
Lol just how there are imams in the Quran which are clear verses with names ……… please show us a clear about the imams you believe in ……Allah swt mentions bees camels ants fruits in the Quran but the most imp thing he doesn’t mention…😂😂
This how. Shia scholars make their followers and people fool The Question was simple which ayah mentions Imamah of Ali r.A and 12 Imams This sheikh took the min time 6 mins as I have listened many many Shia scholars taking upto 2 hours Yet NO ANSWER NO VERSES MENTIONS ALI R.A AND 12 IMAMS... this why we say their claim and madhab is not valid not true at all. It only takes a min to tell the ayah from QURAN. wake up my Shia brothers and Aslam alaikum :)
@@jawadbooley9930 Muslim who follow ahle sunnah and true ahle bait, don't claim Abu Bakr Uthman Omar bin khattab Ali bin Abi Talib may Allaah be please with them all are DIVINLY appointed caliphs, it is only SHIA ( misguide people) because of their misguided scholars claim Ali and 12 Imam are DIVINLY appointed hence if they are DIVINLY one must ask SHIA divine means has to be from Quran since it is absolute truth and is part of Islam must be in Quran. Therrfor we ask SHIA to please tell us which verse directly openly tells this most important issues of Imamah, as this is the biggest difference between Shia and Sunni if it is resolved , 90 percent Sunni Shia wil be joined together. Hence we see , this claim of Shia Imamah from Quran is not there . It's been 1400 centuries they couldn't prove it , Therefore if you had used abit more brain u would not have asked Sunni this Question because we don't claim the first 4 righteous calips were DIVINLY appointed but Shia do and they stand in it with their last breath , so this is the only sensible thing to do is to ask the proof from Divine revelation Quran . :)
And whoever disbelieves in Allaah, His angels, His books, His messengers, and the Last Day has certainly gone far astray. [Quran 4:136] Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allaah , the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, Quran 2:177 WHERE IS IMAMATE???
OK. where is the return of Jesus and Mahdi.????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? and if you believe it is optional and it is not important to believe of AKHAR AL ZAMAN and return of Jesus and Mahadi after i send so many videos from sunny then you are a KAFIR according to them and Hadith. show me one verse about that?????? At least we show so many verses to prove IMAMAT but because God covered your heart and ear and eyes and can not see the truth..... but you show me one verse about Mahdi and Jesus.
@@alexshia8765 You look like an uneducated idiot who doesn't understand either English or trying to make a futile argument. What I am trying to say is there are no clear cut references of appearance Imam Mahdi and Isa (as) in the Quran. BUT there are many references available in books of Hadith. An overwhelming majority of Muslims believe in the appearance of Imam Mahdi and Isa (as) because of these hadeeths. Now because the references are available in Hadeeth and not Quran that is why some Muslims doubt the authenticity of these future events. RIGHT? Now to believe in the imaginary 12 Infallible Imamate, which is the BASIC pillar of 12er Shias, there has to be clear cut mention in the Quran or at least SOME references in the books of hadeeths. RIGHT? BUT, there is NO absolutely mention of imaginary 12 Infallible Imamate either in Quran or in the books of hadeeth. These are mere stories, concocted by the Kufans (who ran from Persia and settles in Iraq's Kufa) and started creating mischief and were responsible for creating a rift between Muslims in Medina.
@Moe Rocco first of all who said that everything about our belief should mentioned in Quran. Because Quran dose not say that nor Hadith. secondly , according to all main stream Sunny you should believe in return of Jesus and Mahadi or you will die as a Kafir. in your second comment you asked about evidence. i will ask you to watch these videos... ua-cam.com/video/CkOzQjVUqVY/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/GhvMRsdaUY8/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/AOOqb2wXgPw/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/A6NQLSBlLDc/v-deo.html
@Moe Rocco this shows that you are spending time to learn even your religion. i watched all of them even i am shia, which video has the evidence. i think all of them . do your own homework. but i will find some hadith for you any way.
@Moe Rocco I also told you who saied that fundamental also should mentioned in Quran. show me a verse to prove your point from Quran. However, I believe the concept of Imamat has mentioned in Quran but not if you are deaf and blind.
how is is that Prophet Muhammad is the best of prophets, peace be upon him -better than Ibrahim- & Ibrahim was imam, but the Prophet didn't reach that status of imamah? furthermore, how did Ali, not even being an imam beat Both prophet Ibrahim & Prophet Muhammad by skipping the level of being prophet and straight away reached imamah?
So let's look at hadith from Ibn Majah: It was narrated that Ibn 'Umar said: "The Messenger of Allah said: 'Hasan and Husain will be the leaders of the youth of Paradise, and their father is better than them." So my question is since everyone will be youth in Paradise and all the Prophets will be in Paradise, how can Hasan and Hussain be their Masters? Moreover their father is above them? What is your explanation for this? How can it be possible for a non Prophets to be the Master of Prophets?
@@Wasifdialogue ok.you do not accept our explanation despite all clear evidence from Quran and Hadith. Now you tell me as a sunny you MUST believe in return of Jesus and Mahdi.So can you please show me one verse in QURAN TO PROVE THAT.There is NON
5:55 after that the way he's misinterpreting the Aya is wrong "there was no mention of the ahlu and some how u trying to fit in your own beliefs" and using it as a proof for your own agenda
This clown talked without answering anything. And imamah isn’t a rank which is better than prophethood since allah never referred the prophet as imam. And imam can be a bad person as Allah said in surah al qasas “And We made them imams inviting to the Fire, and on the Day of Resurrection they will not be helped”. How come Imam can be a bad person when a prophet or messenger can’t be a bad person? And when someone ask you to prove your 12 demigods who you say are better than the prophets instead of running to a word show us where allah chose this specific people from the quran since we don’t agree on anything else
If everything Important is in Quran then show me the method of Namaz In Quran ? Because first utmost Significant thing is Salah ? Why Allah didn't mention Method of Salah in Quran ?
@@corpsefoot758 surah shura verse 38 “who respond to their Lord, establish prayer, conduct their affairs by mutual consultation, and donate from what We have provided for them” Allah called entire surah consultation
@@HH-er4qh Since when is establishing a KHALIFA on earth for all Muslims “their affair”?? Can you show me a single case of Allah declaring mankind is allowed to pick their OWN divine representative? Or is the complete OPPOSITE true, with the Quran frequently & firmly denouncing anybody who dares claiming this right of His as their own?
@@corpsefoot758 who said only Allah choices the khalif? If you can’t bring where allah ﷻ said he is the only one who can choice leader then you are making haram what Allah didn’t make haram therefore you are kafir. Not that you weren’t before lol
Imamah is a concocted stuff .. There were lakhs of Sahabas after Rasoolullah left this world... Why didnt they ever mention about Imamah... Indirectly you are accusing lakhs of Sahabas of hiding the truth...
@@corpsefoot758 why didn't prophet announce Ali is wali at Hajj, since they were returning from it, but instead gave the khutba and ghadeer khum? So many people who came from other parts were not present and Ghadeer khum.
What a joke nothing convincing at all Surah 86 Tariq v13-14 Indeed, the Qur'an is a decisive statement, And it is not amusement. A decisive statement that would rather talk about animal rights and menstrual blood rather then 12 infallibles who we have to believe in for our salvation. You can’t make this stuff up lol
In your own logic where is Mahdi mentioned or the returning of Isa or the explanation on how to pray or how much zakat to pay or how to do hajj or even the shahadah in the Qur'an or when to fast lol
@@muhammed_kadhimi you are a joke, Allah has set the foundation of all the pillars in the Quran, “establish prayer”, “give zakat”, the Shahadah is in the Quran lol, Surah 3:18 Allah bears witness that there is no god but He. Quran 63:1 “We testify that you are the Messenger of Allah .”
Just give the Quran to who hasn't read it and ask that person to list down whatever main things they can find Quran. Guaranteed that person will no way write down there is something about the concept of Imamat or anything even remotely close to it.
Remember Ali his position was taken by abdukar after the death of muhamed And remember prophet said am the city of knowledge and ali is the gate If u dont believe why is it in gathering of quran Ali was called reason he knew all the quran in his head . Some times dont follow what u had but gather what u know to get the answer
AHLUL-BAYT SAID THAT IF SOMEONE LEFT SALAT , HE LETS ISLAM
May Allah bless you and your parents Shaikhna
Amin yaa Allah
One point which shias miss is that you are agreeing that Imamah was given to Ibrahim as AFTER he became Prophet,which means he became Prophet first and then Imam.
So how can Ali as and his offspring as become the Imam when they were not first Prophets like Ibrahim as was a Prophet first?
Nonsense
Sky Height Mathematics I somewhat agree. The office that the Shia mean is wilaayah or mawlawiyyah which is a duty to care of the believers. Ali also had the office of wizaaratu-nabeeyi because his status to the prophet Muhammad SAAS was that of Aaron SAAS to Moses SAAS. Imaamah is just leadership and God made Abraham SAAS a leader for all the worlds after completing the test with God's words. That is why we follow millatu Ibraheem and why we must take his uswah/sunnah.
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But if you read the verse, prophet Ibrahim a.s asked Allah for imams to be from his progeny, what was the condition set by Allah?
Those who are unjust will not be receive the post/rank of imamate.
Further:
It was the tests that made prophet Ibrahim a.s into an Imam.
Allah was showing the high rank of imamate is above prophethood.
And since prophethood messengership ended with our final beloved prophet Muhammad p, the verse 2:124 indicates that the post of imamate will always continue if there are just individuals from the progeny of Prophet ibrahim a.s.
After the prophet, who are the just, pure individuals ? His Ahlulbayt a.s
The prophet left after him TWO weighty things: the Qur'an and the Ahlulbayt.
Today's imam of time is the
al Mahdi p . الإمامة الابراهيمية
Alot can be deduced from this verse.
May Allah guide you and me towards His mercy
Imamah is something that Allah gives to someone he wants. It is not like human things that for example you first should be 18 and then you will become 19!
Like Taloot(طالوت) that actually was a man in a village and nobody did know him but Allah made him the King of bani israel!
Who said that a person has to be a Prophet before he can become an Imam? You are confused.
MashaAllah Good explained ❤
There is no word mentioning khalifat arrasool or khulafa e rashideen in Qur'an.There is no mention of this system in Qur'an.
Whoever told you this did not God say that I am making the earth a successor, and the word of the Maker is a promise and made until the Day of Resurrection?
Khilafat is not a creed of faith for Ahlus sunnah the way Imamat is a creed of Shia. Your argument is crap.
@@arigatosev3n880
Oh really?? You’re telling me a SINGLE “Sunni” out there can exist who doesn’t automatically have to both believe in & follow your Three Musketeers as the correct guardians of the Ummah’s leadership after our holy Prophet’s demise? And that these three “leaders” weren’t responsible for seizing Fadak from Lady Fatima on religious grounds, or altering the entirety of modern prayer, or supposedly compiling the Quran?
Also: then why did Abu Bakr order the execution of Malik bin Nuwayra; what gave him the right if he had no religious authority within the Sunni ideology’s dogma??
Your entire Takfiri worldview is “crap”
@@corpsefoot758
You didn't get the point, did you? Imamah is the most important pillar of 12ver Shi'ism (after shahadatayn). I'll be a kafir and condemned into hellfire for eternity for rejecting imamah.
As for khilafah, it is never in our main creed, let alone the most important one. Learn the difference.
And yet you'll never find any verse clearly mentioning that you have to believe in the imamah of the 12. NONE.
@@abumuhammad6978
1) Muslims are only tested on the context of their knowledge, so if they were only brought up with the brainwashing of Bakri text then they will not be automatically punished for rejecting an Imamate they weren’t even shown the benefit of
2) Saqifa is never mentioned in Quran clearly, but that doesn’t stop your sect from following it (let alone Abu Bakr’s hilariously ignorant method of handing it off to Umar)
3) If Khulafa are no big deal, why was Malik bin Nuwayra swiftly executed for opposing it? What gave Abu Bakr the authority of depriving the greatest woman in existence Syeda Fatima (AS) her own inheritance? What about Husayn ibn Ali (AS), or Hujr bin Adi??
Why does your sect keep running from these questions?
وَجَعَلْنَـٰهُمْ أَئِمَّةًۭ يَدْعُونَ إِلَى ٱلنَّارِ ۖ وَيَوْمَ ٱلْقِيَـٰمَةِ لَا يُنصَرُونَ ٤١
We made them Imams inviting ˹others˺ to the Fire. And on the Day of Judgment they will not be helped
Damn, didn't know these Imams could have this high of status
jazakallah khair 🥰
People asking for immama in Qur'an seems like they have proven 4 caliphs from Qur'an although immama is there in Qur'an but they find it difficult to swallow it and they vomit it saying it's just prophet hood ... Then why Allah is making Ibrahim a prophet again when Allah had already made him prophet earlier ... Do they think God forgot that MA' AZALLAH ... ?
The differences is shias dont make the foundation of islam on 4 caliphs but shias do, thats why sunnis ask shias to prove it from quran. Shias hold it even as one of their 5 pillars islam, imamah. Can you show anyone in the Qur'an who wasn't a prophet who was named an imam?
@@AbuFadl if caliphate is not a pillar of Islam then why it's necessary to believe in it for being a Muslim in Sunni school of thought ...?
Then what is the status of caliphate in Islam if it's not a pillar of Islam and you accept that it's not a Quranic concept neither it's a recommendation of prophet PBUH let alone an obligation
As for Imama ...prophet Ibrahim was distinguish as an Imam other then being a prophet .... Because God after appointing him as prophet asked him that He will test you Ibrahim and when Ibrahim fulfilled the tests Allah said now I will make you imam .... It's in Sura Ibrahim
If you think Imam means prophet then why Allah is saying to Ibrahim that He will make you a prophet (again) ? Did Allah forgot that Ibrahim is already a prophet Ma'azallah ?
So no imam before Ibrahim as per Qur'an ...
@@hammadhussain4422 just incase you didnt know Sunni Muslims believe in 5 pillars which islam is based upon which we can prove each of them from the Qur'an: 1. Shahaadatayn 2. Salah 3. Zakat 4. Ramadan 5. Hajj
Shia pillars: 1. Salat 2. Zakat 3. Ramadan 4. Hajj 5. Wilayah/imamah
Show us where Allah told us to believe in imamah as shia believe in the Qur'an?
I never ever said imamah is same as prophet so please stop with the strawman argument. I said show me in the Qur'an where there is a person who is an imam but not a prophet? If Ibrahim was a prophet promoted to imam, he is both a prophet and imam, right? Then how are the 12 imams better than ibrahim when they were only imams but ibrahim was a prophet & imam?
@@AbuFadl if you accept that imama is another status then just prophecy then you should also know that Ibrahim made a dua to ALLAH to keep this Imamat in my offsprings
Which Allah accepted with a condition that it would not be for zalimeen .... So we know who is Khatimul nabiyeen ... But is there any khatimul Aimma ? Holly prophet told us that from His progeny there will be IMAM MEHDI ...
And also told that there will 12 Imams after me
So we have enough of proof to believe that IMAMA in offsprings of Ibrahim is not finished yet based on Qur'an and narrations of Holly prophet
... Now give any evidence for caliphate or at least describe what is the status of caliphate in your sect ...
Is it obligation to believe in it , if so , from where do you prove it in Qur'an ?
@@hammadhussain4422 Easy, because according to the Qur'an- we only see those who were prophets were imams, so we do know that ibrahim had many prophets in his lineage who were leaders of their communities. Therefor idk how shias come to the conclusion in which this verse is referring ONLY to their 12 imams, its really not clear. And for argument sake, even if this imamah was given to your 12 imams- where do yo get qualities of having the unseen knowledge as mentioned in al kaafi, knowing a when, where, how theyll die, controlling the atoms of the universe, understanding like a million languages, etc.- where do you derive these qualities from the Qur'an? And you still havent answered, how are the 12 imams better than ibrahim since he was a prophet AND imam? Secondly, the same places you get the narration of 12 imams from, the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم also mentions 12 khulufaa.
It has been narrated on the authority of Jabir b. Samura who said:
"I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: Islam will continue to be triumphant until there have been twelve Caliphs. Then the Prophet (ﷺ) said something which I could not understand. I asked my father: What did he say? He said: He has said that all of them (twelve Caliphs) will be from the Quraish."
The wording of imam and Khalifah is not an issue for me, i accept both. But interesting, the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم says Islam will be "strong" until the succession of the 12. But shiw
shias dont believe Islam was strong during the time of their imams, in fact their imams were "usurped" of their right to rule, they were oppressed & some imposters were ruling and corrupted the deen according to the 12vers. So these 12 cant be the imams whom shia hold too.
Namaz and roza both are compulsory and non can leave but when you talk more about something it means it has more importance more role that play in your life and other as well same as namaz
So by your logic Nabi Musaع is more important than RasulAllah ص , baseless argument.
Please more about this
Nobody is contesting that the words "Imamah" or "Welayah" are not in the Quran. The argument is that the creed of Imamah, that Ahl ut tashee adhere to, is no where to be found in the Quran. And such a consequential creedal position must be backed by the Mus'haf itself and not left to conjecture and varying interpretations from people with various biases and agendas (both in favour as well as opposite).
Is this method innovation
S4133m well by your logic the just nature of all of the companions is not true because it's nowhere to be found in the Quran the Quran states that Allah purified the AhlulBayt and numerous Hadith state that Imam Ali is the leader and successor after the Prophet (S) not to mention the fact that 2 of our 5 daily prayers are not mentioned in the Quran at all, don't you get it you idiot? Allah wants us to go to the Prophet (S) and to research through HIM our faith as the Quran states that the messenger is supposed to explain what was revealed to the people
Brother without hate, Muhammad hijab even believes that we should follow the Quran and ahlulbayt and took the Hadith as real. Go check in Imamate in speakers corner, or else check my UA-cam channel where I exposed wuhabi discourse, or wuhabi defense. Salam
@@islamicbeliever1179 The question only was about the creed of Imamat not what Mr X believes or doesn't believe. These Imams are thought to be higher in status than prophets. Qadianis are getting so much rough treatment on believing in one zilli nabi but here Ahl ut Tashee believe in not 1, 2 but 12 super duper prophets. This is serious matter . . .
@@ImpatientStudent brother, so when you bring me up fulan fulan said the quran is not preserved, does that mean all shias say that? When a shi'i says the murder of fatimah didn't happen, does that mean all the shia believe that. Dont say to me just because of one (smart) sunni believes that the quran and ahlulbayt are the words of what the prophet said. No, but rather say to the people that spread lies about us. Salam brother
Claiming that certain scholars agree with you is different than saying there is no dispute. If prophets are born as prophets and have 3ismah from birth than they automatically have imaamah which is being a resource and an example for people to look to for guidance naturally or officially.
@transporter255 you are confused, the theme of the Quran is not about immamah, may Allah guide you from bidah and shirk
that's not true at all, imamah is a specific position, that is not meant for everybody. just like how every prophet is a messenger but not every messenger is a prophet.
@@dontworry9732 where did anyone say that the theme of quraan was imamah lol the theme of quraan is tawheed
Salat is more important than Siyam in terms of precedence. One can be excused from fasting due to health or sickness, not so Salat. There is a sound hadith that says, 'difference between Imam and Kufr is salat'.
Funny as the same story is narrated in its opposite also, where Abu Hanifa explains with this example to Imam Sadiq his methodology.
احسنتم رحم الله والديكم
Not clear. No ppl higher than prophets...
Offcourse not
Where is your proof of this
Prophet Jonas was placed in a whale’s stomach for committing the “lesser good”. Show me a single case of Ali ibn Abi Talib receiving the same
It is mentioned in Sunni text that Ali was to our Prophet as Harun was to Musa (Sahih Bukhari)
It is also mentioned that Umar once tried reciting the Torah to our Prophet, and upon getting angered by this, our Prophet also clarified that even Musa would have been a member of his Ummah if he were alive up until then (Mishkat al-Masabih)
Put simply: Sunni texts say that Ali (AS) is the heir to our Prophet’s position, and they also say prophet Musa (AS) would have been a member of the Ummah
Therefore, Sunni texts claim Ali ibn Abi Talib outranks nabi Musa, quite simple
BUT AHLUL-BAYT SAYS SALAT IS MOST IMPORTANT
The point isn't the conclusion of comparison but the logic used to get to that conclusion. The process is just as important as the result. It's like doing a math equation completely wrong and so the teacher marks your answer wrong even if you happened to guess correctly.
I dont see still verse from the quran backing up his claim
I dont see a verse describing how to pray or even the number of Rakat for each prayer. The Quran provides us with guidance on who we should follow and we follow who the Prophet (sawas) declared to follow. It's very simple.
Praying 2 rakat for fajr is wajib. Can you show me where in the Qur’an All-h says to pray 2 rakat for fajr? In the Qur’an, All-h says in Surah 5 verse 6 to wipe your feet when you make Wudhu. How can you be convinced of a concept from the Quran when your own action contradicts what the Quran teaches?
Shaun Abbas Don’t be an ignoramus. According to the Shi’i theology, the only way towards salvation is through Ahlul Bayt, and the fact that Allaah doesn’t tell us who they are or even remotely allude to following them is very problematic for you. Allaah mentions the Fig and the Olive but doesn’t even mention your Imamah.
Halaal Muslim
Surah 4 verse 59:
“Oh you who believe, obey Allah, obey the Prophet, and obey those in authority from amongst you”
Sunnis stopped at Allah and the Prophet. Shi’as extended their obedience to those who have authority from amongst them. Prophet Muhammad said that those who have authority from amongst us are his progeny the Ahlul Bayt (as’)
To add to that, Allah (swt) purified the Ahlul Bayt and kept them away from all impurities as highlighted in Surah 33 verse 33
Last thing I would like to mention is that in Sahih Muslim, Zayd Ibn Arqam narrates that the Prophet Muhammad said “I leave behind for you two equally weighty things, the book of Allah and my progeny my Ahlul Bayt. Hold onto them and you will never go astray”.
If you don’t believe me, go to Sunnah.com and type “Khumm” in the search bar :)
Also just wanted to say, Sunni scholars classify those who only demand Qur’an as a source of proof as Fasiqs (those who violate Islamic law)
@@ghalibahmed6676
Is Ayat 33:33 about Ahlebeyt? YES. Are Wives mentioned in Ayat 33:33? YES!
GAME OVER
God bless shaykh.. and thank you for sharing such an informative vid
Still not clear give us clear verse because it is obligatory to follow
ibrahim zari what wasn’t clear?
Direct clear verse for imamat where Allah says imamat gvn to Ali where in fact Quran says iman close to sahaba
ibrahim zari do you love Ali the way the prophet loved him and do you believe that Ali was to the prophet like Haroun was to musa?
Brother love dose not mean authority Moses give his status for certain period and he came back
he not gvn as a whole after prophet no isma no masoom doer is closed for that still u not gvn clear evidence of imam
Allah says if u right give evidence in front of rasuallah Ali .Omar. usman. Abubakar is nothing they get value because of rasuallah Islam is all about seerah of rasuallah not imamat first learn Islam with clear heart
sad that the muslims are arguing over the best of people Allah s.w granted janah before they passed away.. i hope you people know when the day of judgement comes non will be asked about the state of our prophets or awliyas ...and non will receive a price for that
Who was “granted Jannah”?
if we believe that quran is a book of guidance to the believers then it would have been clearly mentioned in quran about imamah. only theology and logic is not enough to establish an aqeedah
Please show me where does it say in the quran to pray 17 rakats daily? Or how to pray? I mean prayer is the most fundamental part of a Muslims life without it that person is not considered a Muslim so why isn't the number of rakats and the manner of prayer is mentioned explicitly in the quran? Please answer
Why don’t you respond to Rey Farce’s comment? I agree 100%, that namaz is the most important pillar of the religion. Prophet Muhammad said that namaz in relation to Islam is like the head in relation to the body. Without the head, the body is useless, without namaz, Islam is useless. So if namaz is so important, surely Allah would have added the amount of rakat we have to pray daily. So can you show me a verse that says how many rakat to pray?
@@reyfarce5697 Quran says to Pray, but didn't say how many rakayats. So we ask you to show where is Ayat to follow Imamah, but we even don't ask you how many Imams, although your Shia book Al Kafi counted as 13 Imams in one place, 6 Imams in another and even must be only 4 Imams.
The quran also doesn't mention caliphs
@@jawadbooley9930 Caliphs are Muhajiruns, read Ayat 9:117
yes ........this is true
If you don't believe in imamat you want clear ayat then you believe in 4 imam give me one clear ayat about them please don't get angry just for knowledge be calm we can disagree with each others but in Islam we are all muslims
No 1 believe in 4 imams as a part of Islam
I do not think any Sunni believes those 4 or any person after the Prophet AS to be appointed by Allah. These 4 and any other person is not the final authority. According to Sunni belief no person has the final authority after the Prophet AS.
hadith al-thaghalayn: ahlulbayt and quran are together till paradise. that makes 12 shia imams infallible, and superior than following the Sunnis caliph.2-quran says dont follow the (fallible sunnis caliph) sinner👈 76:24 !!
sunnah.com/urn/636710
Nothing stopped prophet from naming them and not being vague who he left behind. Every sect can use this verse to align it with their beliefs and say this verse is referring to their leaders.
@@arigatosev3n880
Who says the Bakri sect accepted or preserved everything our Prophet said? Do you not remember Umar rejecting our holy Prophet’s request for a written will on his deathbed? What do you even think was going to be written in that document?
Further proof of this: even Sahih Bukhari records our Prophet stating that Ali (AS) would be to him “like Harun was to Musa”; did you ever see nabi Musa allowing three Saqifa-born interruptions between him and Harun??
Alaihimossalm
I think the shaykh contradicted himself. On one hand he says the logic of Abu Hanifa is faulty when he tried to prove that prayer was superior to fasting by using analogy, the shaykh has a good point here. But the shaykh uses the same logic to prove the superiority of imamah to prophethood, that just because imamah was the last thing given to Ibrahim it is therefore superior. You cannot have it both ways, both assumptions are just guesswork and analogy.
There was no contradictions in thought whatsoever, and it was only that you THOUGHT there was.
Consider: Abu Hanifa's argument was on the basis of the quantity of mentions, and how if something has a higher quantity of mentions in the Quran it is taken more superior. That logic doesn't apply to Imamah what so ever, because it is clearly stated that he was elevated from Nabi, to Rasuul, to Khalilullah, and THEN TO Imam. It's literally a hierarchy of stages, Imamah isn't higher than prophethood because it was last therefore it is superior but because it's inherently a higher stage, otherwise he wouldn't receive it. It's like me saying, ok you're an Employee, now you're an Assistant Manager and now the Regional Manager. Regional Manager isn't higher than Employee because it was given to you LAST, it's higher because on the hierarchy it is higher. Otherwise by your logic, if Imamah isn't higher than Prophethood, was Nabi Ibrahim(AS) given a demotion? No.
He didn’t contradict himself at all. Your wrong! Imamah is a concept mentioned in the Holy Qur’an in many places. It’s truth. It only makes sense that every Prophet had a successor. Chosen only by ALLAH (swt). Let’s also remember that Abu Hanifa was the student of Imam Jafar Al-Sadiq (as) our 6th Imam. So naturally the teacher is always going to be more knowledgeable than the student. So his logic is perfectly accurate and flawless.
Imamat that you believe is it in Quran ????? Don't try to make fool
we have signs (I can show you), but where does it even mention abu bar, umar, or utman? imam Ali is mentioned, why not the 3 imams of yours?
He has proven nothing but just beating around the bush. Allah granted Imamah to Ibrahim (as), so?The question is where is the proof in Quran regarding the imaginary 12 Imams of Shia sect?
His arguments are merely an exercise to keep the blind followers happy and provide false reassurance that what we are following is not wrong when another Muslim questions their belief in Imamah.
Lol when he mentioned khums, I realised they need to keep that money flowing into their pockets
It's madness that imamah is supposed to be a tenet of faith but it's not found in the Quran as a clear or unequivocal statement.
@@misterpete8001
Show me a single proof of Saqifa elections for Caliphs in the Quran.
از تحریر عباس علی ہسپر نگر گلگت )
قرآن کے اصطلاح میں امام اور خلیفہ میں کیا فرق ہے؟؟؟
لوگوں کے نظر میں امام کون ہوتا ہے ؟؟؟
عموماً لوگوں کا خیال ہوتا کہ امام مسلمانوں کا وہ رہنما ہوتا ہے جو لوگوں کو رہنمائی کرتا ، دینی تعلیم دیتا ، تربیت کرتا ہے۔۔ دین کی باتیں بتاتا ہے اور انہیں آخرت سے ڈراتا ہے۔۔۔
اکثر لوگوں کا خام خیا ل ہے کہ امام مسجد ، فقہ اور پھر احادیث کا ہوتا ہے جبکہ قرآن کے مطابق ایسا نہیں ہے ۔۔
ہر مذہب کا کوئی نہ کوئی پیشوا ہوتا ہے اور اس مذہب کے ماننے والے انکو عزت کی نگاہ دیکھتے ہیں۔
مثلا عیسائیوں کے ہاں پادری ہوتا ہے اور پادری کو اور بہت نامون سے جانا جاتا ہے مثلاً Bishop یا vicar ۔۔۔
اسی طرح ہندو مذہب کے ہاں پنڈت ہوتے ہیں جنہیں کو اور بھی ناموں سے جانا جاتا ہے۔مثلا یوگی، سوامی ، گرو ، اور یوگن وغیرہ۔۔۔
مسلمان کے ہاں امام ہوتا ہے جنہیں خلیفہ بھی کہا جاتا ہے۔
امام از قرآن!!!
قرآن مجید میں بہت مرتبہ لفظ امام آیا ہے ایک مرتبہ سورہ البقرہ (2)کی آیت 124 میں اور سورہ القصص (28) کی آیت نمبر 41 میں ۔۔
جب ابراہیم ( علیہ السلام ) کو ان کے رب نے کئی کئی باتوں سے آزمایا اور انہوں نے سب کو پورا کر دیا تو اللہ نے فرمایا کہ میں تمہیں لوگوں کا امام بنا دوں گا عرض کرنے لگے میری اولاد کو فرمایا میرا وعدہ ظالموں سے نہیں ۔
سورۃ البقرہ آیت 124.
واضح رہے کہ اللّٰہ نے جب حضرت ابراہیم علیہ السلام کو امام بنایا تو انہوں نے دعا کہ اللّٰہ میرے اولاد کو بھی(امام بناؤ)..
جس کا مکمل زکر پرانا عہد نامے کے کتاب پیدائش کے باب 17 آیت 20 میں آیا ہے ۔۔
اِسمٰعیل کے حق میں بھی مَیں نے تیری دُعا سُنی۔ دیکھ مَیں اُسے برکت دُونگا اور اُسے برومند کرونگا اور اُسے بہت بڑھاؤنگا اور اُس سے بارہ سردار پَیدا ہونگے اور مَیں اُسے بڑی قوم بناؤنگا۔۔۔
یاد رکھیں اس دعا میں نہ صرف بارہ امام کا زکر ہے بلکہ بلکہ ان کی بڑی قوم کا ہونے کا بھی وعدہ ہے۔۔۔۔
اب سوال یہ ہوتا ہے کہ آخر وہ بارہ امام یا پھر سردار ہے کون؟؟؟
جب ہم حتٰی کہ اہل سنت کے احادیث کا مطالعہ حدیث کا مطالعہ کرتے ہیں تو ہمیں پتہ چلتا ہے کہ حضرت محمد صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے بھی انکی بشارت دی ہیں مثلا رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے فرمایا کہ ان کے بعد بارہ خلفاء ہوں گے۔
ہم مشکوٰۃ المصابیح میں پڑھتے ہیں:
میں نے رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کو یہ فرماتے ہوئے سنا کہ اسلام بارہ خلفاء تک شان و شوکت سے نہیں رہے گا، ان میں سے ہر ایک قریش سے ہے۔ (اور ایک روایت میں ہے) ’’لوگوں کے معاملات اس وقت تک زوال پذیر نہیں ہوں گے جب تک کہ ان پر بارہ آدمی حکومت کریں گے، ان میں سے ہر ایک قریش سے آئے گا۔ اور ایک روایت میں ہے: دین قائم رہے گا یہاں تک کہ قیامت آجائے کیونکہ ان پر بارہ خلفاء ہوں گے، ان میں سے ہر ایک قریش سے ہے۔
مشکوٰۃ المصابیح جلد 4 ص 576، حدیث 5۔
ان روایات سے ہمیں یہ پتہ چلا کہ رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم کے بعد اس امت کے حکمران کی تعداد بارہ ہی بتائی گئی ہے۔۔۔
اب سوال یہ پیدا ہوتا ہے کہ وہ تو خلفاء کے بارے میں کہا تھا اس میں آپ کے امام کے بارے میں کہا سے زکر آیا ؟؟
خلیفہ مسلمانون کے نزدیک وہ ہوتا ہے جو مسلمانوں کے اور حکومت کرے۔
جبکہ قرآن کے اصطلاح میں ایسی کوئی بات نہیں ۔
قرآن مجید قرآن مجید میں لفظ خلیفہ انبیاء کرام کے لے استعمال ہوا ہے ۔۔۔
اور یاد رکھیں کہ ہر نبی حکمران نہیں بنا ۔۔۔
اور اگلی بات حضرت آدم علیہ السلام کو بھی خلیفہ کہا ہے اب کوئی مسلمان ہمیں یہ بتائیں کہ حضرت آدم علیہ السلام نے کتنے سال حکومت کی ہے ؟؟؟
سورہ البقرہ آیت 30۔
اب بات واضح ہو چکی ہے کہ امام اور خلیفہ ایک ہی معنی رکھتے ہیں اور یہ دونوں الفاظ انبیاء علیہم السلام کے کے استمال ہوے ہیں۔
اور یاد رکھیں کہ ہر نبی حکمران نہیں بنا....
اور یہ بھی یاد رکھیں کہ شیعہ وہ واحد فرقہ ہے۔جو بارہ امام یا خلفاء کو مانتے ہیں۔
اگر پھر بھی کوئی اعتراض ہے تو اور کوئی بارہ سردار کو ماننے والا فرقہ بتائیں!!!
اور یہ بھی مزید یاد رکھیں کہ حکومت کا حق بارہ امام ہی کو تھا۔
اگر انہیں انکی حق سے محروم رکھا تو اس کا مطلب یہ نہیں کہ وہ خلیفہ یا امام نہیں۔۔۔۔
آخر میں اللّٰہ سے دعا ہے کہ ہمیں صراط مستقیم پر چلنے کی توفیق عطا فرمائے!!!
یا اللّٰہ ہم تیری ہی عبادت کرتے ہیں اور تجھ ہی سے مدد مانگتے ہیں۔۔
Remember Ali his position was taken by abdukar after the death of muhamed
And remember prophet said am the city of knowledge and ali is the gate
If u dont believe why is it in gathering of quran Ali was called reason he knew all the quran in his head . Some times dont follow what u had but gather what u know to get the answer
Where is the United States of America in Qur'an?
Is he a scholar or an ignorant?
It is difficult to recompensate salaah because salaah has to be offered every day, 5 times a day. But except Ramadan, fasting is not compulsory in the remaining 11 months, so it is convenient to recompensate the missed fasts anytime during the 11 months. That is why keeping the missed fasts are to be kept after Ramadan and for missed salah there is no such compulsions.
Are you stupid? Salat takes maximum 7 minutes.
Sawm takes almost half a day or more for just 1 missed fast.
Even if a woman misses 4 days of fast, she has to fast for 4 days later. Which will take atleast 4 days if no breaks taken.
On the other hand, salah for the whole 4 days missed can be offered within 2-3 hours .
So which one is more difficult.
Hence proved he is a scholar quoting an imam and you are an ignorant.
Still no Quran verse 😂😂😂😅
Adam Smith can you show me a verse in the Quran where Allah says to pray 2 rakat for fajr?
Can you show me a Qur’an verse that says there are 124,000 prophets?
What is Alij Lam Mim
@ghalib Ahmed The belief in praying 2 rakat for fajr is sunnah, and not required whereas in shiism, the belief in the imamah is a concept for all shias to believe in, making it required
@@ghalibahmed6676 and also what difference does it have in the five pillars of islam that you have to know that there is 124,000 prophets, Is it a sin to believe this or to no believe it?
Ya Shaikh, How does this logic imply that Muslims would have Imams of that stature after the last Prophet AS?
Do you mean Shia Imams are higher in ranking than Prophets?
they are higher in ranking than all prophets other than nabi Muhammad saww. and before you say this isn’t possible in the Holy Quran, as said in the video, that Nabi Ibrahim as was made an imam after being a nabi and rasool. the fact that he was a nabi and rasool and then an imam proves that it is a higher status that prophethood
The 12 Imams are higher in rank than every Prophet except Muhammad (S)
This is why in Shi’a literature when Imam Mahdi is referenced, it is specifically mentioned that he will lead Prophet Isa (A) in group prayer
Usul ad-Din, the five roots of religion, can also be referred to as the 'foundation of faith'. They are:
Tawhid (the Oneness of Allah), & Adalat (justice), prophethood (nubuwwah), imamate (leadership) & last is Resurrection (Qayamat).
I have a sincere question. I am thinking about becoming Shi’a but I would like to ask, if Imamah is higher than prophethood then that would mean that the Imams are higher than Muhammad (SAWA) who was only a messenger? This cannot be true
Salam alaikum,
The Prophet also posses Imamah as he functions as a leader and protector over the religion, much like Ibrahim who was both prophet and imam. The Prophet states in narrations authentic to scholars Sunni and Shia that Imam Ali is unto The Prophet as Haroon was unto Musa except no prophet comes after Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family), implying clearly that there is a further authority status that these individuals posses that is passed on just as it was passed from Musa unto Haroon when Musa went on the mountain for 40 days. There are things to say further than this but I will it leave it here. :)
May Allah (SWT) bless you and your family. Salam alaikum.
Of course the Holy Prophet(S) is higher, he has the highest standard when it comes to the eyes of Allah(SWT) and is the greatest creation of Allah(SWT). Refer to what brother Bo Jangles has said, the Imams(AS) succeeded him and completed his mission, it doesn't mean that they're higher than the Holy Prophet(S).
The Imams are of higher status than all prophet except for Prophet Muhammad. As Shias we believe that Islam is only true religion, the Quran is better than all other scriptures and messages, and the prophet is better than all other prophets before him. Therefor the ones chosen by Allah (Ahlul Bayt) to carry this religion forward after the demise of prophet Muhammad are of higher status than all other prophets except for prophet Muhammad because they were chosen to lead the greatest religion
@@ghalibahmed6676 Yes my dear brother to understand a book we don't know we need a teacher and a book like quran can only be explained by its owner(prohet) but now Prohet hood has ended now we are in dire need of a teacher which logically proves imamah who are ahlesunnats imam anyways the 4 who never saw Prohet and were students of our imam or they beleive quran is enough Shias have challenged sunne many times but they always ran like a I won't say there are many indirect references to imamah and ahlebait in quran for example first word الم means aale muhammad what other meaning can it give and also the event of hazrat moosa a.s but they just won't understand
What I have come to udnerstand, because i had the same issues, is that For Muslims its compulsory to follow Allah, Rasool saww and those Owner of Amr (Divine command).. Surah Nisa 59
And since we consider Aimah to be the ulil Amr, Its wajib on us to follow them. and Since its wajib to follow them above any other Prophet except Mohammed pbuh hence their words are above the words and their status is above the status of other prophets, as its not wajib for us to Obey other prophets, just to believe they were righteous and respect them..
Lol just how there are imams in the Quran which are clear verses with names ……… please show us a clear about the imams you believe in ……Allah swt mentions bees camels ants fruits in the Quran but the most imp thing he doesn’t mention…😂😂
This how. Shia scholars make their followers and people fool
The Question was simple which ayah mentions Imamah of Ali r.A and 12 Imams
This sheikh took the min time 6 mins as I have listened many many Shia scholars taking upto 2 hours Yet NO ANSWER NO VERSES MENTIONS ALI R.A AND 12 IMAMS... this why we say their claim and madhab is not valid not true at all. It only takes a min to tell the ayah from QURAN. wake up my Shia brothers and Aslam alaikum :)
Where is the ayat about Abubakar umar and uthman being the caliphs
@@jawadbooley9930 Muslim who follow ahle sunnah and true ahle bait, don't claim Abu Bakr Uthman Omar bin khattab Ali bin Abi Talib may Allaah be please with them all are DIVINLY appointed caliphs, it is only SHIA ( misguide people) because of their misguided scholars claim Ali and 12 Imam are DIVINLY appointed hence if they are DIVINLY one must ask SHIA divine means has to be from Quran since it is absolute truth and is part of Islam must be in Quran. Therrfor we ask SHIA to please tell us which verse directly openly tells this most important issues of Imamah, as this is the biggest difference between Shia and Sunni if it is resolved , 90 percent Sunni Shia wil be joined together. Hence we see , this claim of Shia Imamah from Quran is not there .
It's been 1400 centuries they couldn't prove it ,
Therefore if you had used abit more brain u would not have asked Sunni this Question because we don't claim the first 4 righteous calips were DIVINLY appointed but Shia do and they stand in it with their last breath , so this is the only sensible thing to do is to ask the proof from Divine revelation Quran . :)
butt okay if you say so I really dont care what you believe
@@jawadbooley9930 then you shouldn't have started the talk at all ;)
Easy peasy bro ...
@@Ilovesunnahlife my advice is just that you learn more about shia before assuming what we believe
Very informative
And whoever disbelieves in Allaah, His angels, His books, His messengers, and the Last Day has certainly gone far astray. [Quran 4:136]
Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allaah , the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, Quran 2:177
WHERE IS IMAMATE???
OK. where is the return of Jesus and Mahdi.?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
and if you believe it is optional and it is not important to believe of AKHAR AL ZAMAN and return of Jesus and Mahadi after i send so many videos from sunny then you are a KAFIR according to them and Hadith.
show me one verse about that??????
At least we show so many verses to prove IMAMAT but because God covered your heart and ear and eyes and can not see the truth.....
but you show me one verse about Mahdi and Jesus.
@@alexshia8765
You look like an uneducated idiot who doesn't understand either English or trying to make a futile argument.
What I am trying to say is there are no clear cut references of appearance Imam Mahdi and Isa (as) in the Quran. BUT there are many references available in books of Hadith.
An overwhelming majority of Muslims believe in the appearance of Imam Mahdi and Isa (as) because of these hadeeths. Now because the references are available in Hadeeth and not Quran that is why some Muslims doubt the authenticity of these future events. RIGHT?
Now to believe in the imaginary 12 Infallible Imamate, which is the BASIC pillar of 12er Shias, there has to be clear cut mention in the Quran or at least SOME references in the books of hadeeths. RIGHT?
BUT, there is NO absolutely mention of imaginary 12 Infallible Imamate either in Quran or in the books of hadeeth.
These are mere stories, concocted by the Kufans (who ran from Persia and settles in Iraq's Kufa) and started creating mischief and were responsible for creating a rift between Muslims in Medina.
@Moe Rocco first of all who said that everything about our belief should mentioned in Quran. Because Quran dose not say that nor Hadith.
secondly , according to all main stream Sunny you should believe in return of Jesus and Mahadi or you will die as a Kafir.
in your second comment you asked about evidence. i will ask you to watch these videos...
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@Moe Rocco this shows that you are spending time to learn even your religion. i watched all of them even i am shia,
which video has the evidence. i think all of them .
do your own homework.
but i will find some hadith for you any way.
@Moe Rocco I also told you who saied that fundamental also should mentioned in Quran. show me a verse to prove your point from Quran.
However, I believe the concept of Imamat has mentioned in Quran but not if you are deaf and blind.
i don't think imam Abu hanifa and Imam jafar r.a were not in the same era....need more research...
Abu Hanifa was student of Imam Jafar a.s.
This non-ahlulbayt giving his own doctrines. Let's follow his doctrines and die believing these false doctrines.
Show me proof for Saqifa in the Quran
how is is that Prophet Muhammad is the best of prophets, peace be upon him -better than Ibrahim- & Ibrahim was imam, but the Prophet didn't reach that status of imamah? furthermore, how did Ali, not even being an imam beat Both prophet Ibrahim & Prophet Muhammad by skipping the level of being prophet and straight away reached imamah?
So let's look at hadith from Ibn Majah:
It was narrated that Ibn 'Umar said:
"The Messenger of Allah said: 'Hasan and Husain will be the leaders of the youth of Paradise, and their father is better than them."
So my question is since everyone will be youth in Paradise and all the Prophets will be in Paradise, how can Hasan and Hussain be their Masters? Moreover their father is above them?
What is your explanation for this? How can it be possible for a non Prophets to be the Master of Prophets?
In my opinion you both are being over analytical accept the Qadr of Allah (swt) for what it is do your part and pray for mercy on the day of standing.
Because prophet born as imam by default. Like Jesus born as a prophet.
@@alexshia8765
Imama is fake
No clear cut verse for imamah
Shia priest all bull shift keep lying on Ayat E mutashabihat
@@Wasifdialogue ok.you do not accept our explanation despite all clear evidence from Quran and Hadith.
Now you tell me as a sunny you MUST believe in return of Jesus and Mahdi.So can you please show me one verse in QURAN TO PROVE THAT.There is NON
*Intelligence is knowledge gained*
*Ignorance is a choice*
So the answer remains no.... It is not mentioned in the quran.
Did you even watch the video? 🤦♂️
Where is Saqifa Caliphate mentioned in the Quran?
@@corpsefoot758 its not a creed of faith for sunnis the way imamat is for shias lol 😂
@@arigatosev3n880
So then why did Abu Bakr have Malik bin Nuwayra killed for opposing it?
Sounds like you Bakris need to make up your mind
kazaaabbb,, kazaaabbb kazaaabbbb,,, go and debate muhmaad hijab or brother shamsi ,, then come to conclusion ..you english jahil
5:55 after that the way he's misinterpreting the Aya is wrong "there was no mention of the ahlu and some how u trying to fit in your own beliefs" and using it as a proof for your own agenda
In reality imamiya Shism is a baseless fairy tale. Please leave this majoosi paganism and come to Islam.
Umar tried reciting some Torah to our poor Prophet, as recorded within your Mishkat al-Masabih😂
But nice try buddy
4 books on his left and 4 on his right and he probably read none
This man is a formally educated scientist, with a doctorate in chemistry.
He is more knowledgeable than both of your fathers put together
Well said. 😂 @@corpsefoot758
"Khums is still very important" spoken like a true scammer
Lol u will try to make him look bad in any way, don’t be stubborn listen and research his claims and this will guide you to the right path...
you know khums was and still a thing in sunni islam
This clown talked without answering anything. And imamah isn’t a rank which is better than prophethood since allah never referred the prophet as imam. And imam can be a bad person as Allah said in surah al qasas “And We made them imams inviting to the Fire, and on the Day of Resurrection they will not be helped”.
How come Imam can be a bad person when a prophet or messenger can’t be a bad person?
And when someone ask you to prove your 12 demigods who you say are better than the prophets instead of running to a word show us where allah chose this specific people from the quran since we don’t agree on anything else
If everything Important is in Quran then show me the method of Namaz In Quran ?
Because first utmost Significant thing is Salah ?
Why Allah didn't mention Method of Salah in Quran ?
Where is the proof of Saqifa caliphate in the Quran? Don’t be a fool, please
@@corpsefoot758 surah shura verse 38 “who respond to their Lord, establish prayer, conduct their affairs by mutual consultation, and donate from what We have provided for them” Allah called entire surah consultation
@@HH-er4qh
Since when is establishing a KHALIFA on earth for all Muslims “their affair”??
Can you show me a single case of Allah declaring mankind is allowed to pick their OWN divine representative?
Or is the complete OPPOSITE true, with the Quran frequently & firmly denouncing anybody who dares claiming this right of His as their own?
@@corpsefoot758 who said only Allah choices the khalif? If you can’t bring where allah ﷻ said he is the only one who can choice leader then you are making haram what Allah didn’t make haram therefore you are kafir. Not that you weren’t before lol
Imamah is a concocted stuff
.. There were lakhs of Sahabas after Rasoolullah left this world... Why didnt they ever mention about Imamah... Indirectly you are accusing lakhs of Sahabas of hiding the truth...
The Khutba of Khumm is referenced extensively
Just because Sunni scholars tried to wipe it from history doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist anymore
@@corpsefoot758 why didn't prophet announce Ali is wali at Hajj, since they were returning from it, but instead gave the khutba and ghadeer khum? So many people who came from other parts were not present and Ghadeer khum.
@@arigatosev3n880
First of all: are you referencing anything besides Sunni sources?
What a joke nothing convincing at all
Surah 86 Tariq v13-14
Indeed, the Qur'an is a decisive statement,
And it is not amusement.
A decisive statement that would rather talk about animal rights and menstrual blood rather then 12 infallibles who we have to believe in for our salvation.
You can’t make this stuff up lol
In your own logic where is Mahdi mentioned or the returning of Isa or the explanation on how to pray or how much zakat to pay or how to do hajj or even the shahadah in the Qur'an or when to fast lol
@@muhammed_kadhimi you are a joke, Allah has set the foundation of all the pillars in the Quran, “establish prayer”, “give zakat”, the Shahadah is in the Quran lol, Surah 3:18
Allah bears witness that there is no god but He. Quran 63:1
“We testify that you are the Messenger of Allah .”
@@Lessgoo531
The “foundation” of Imamate in the Quran is 5:55. Stop lying
Another story maker😂
Just like Saqifa-Khalifa, the greatest fairytale of all
🤣🤣🤣
Just give the Quran to who hasn't read it and ask that person to list down whatever main things they can find Quran. Guaranteed that person will no way write down there is something about the concept of Imamat or anything even remotely close to it.
Remember Ali his position was taken by abdukar after the death of muhamed
And remember prophet said am the city of knowledge and ali is the gate
If u dont believe why is it in gathering of quran Ali was called reason he knew all the quran in his head . Some times dont follow what u had but gather what u know to get the answer
Very informative