4 ADDITIONS that NEED to be ADDED NOW that were PASSED to the DEVS for consideration! - War Thunder
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MiG-31 is actually much lighter, and more agile than MiG-25 due to materials used, engines and modifications to wings and airframe overall. It is no Su-27, but it should be decent, like Tornado or Su-17 maybe
it’s more like a yak-38 it pulls hard at high speeds but when below 400mph it TANKS
@@radioactivelambo4015 Its a bit more agile then the yak at higher speeds, the yak does better at low because of its 2d tvc
Ah yes, the interceptor with two ballistic missile engines.
Pretty sure it was the mig 25 with the missile engines
@@THECHEESE2023 it was both, but they only ironed out the kinks of the Mig-25 of having, *y'know* , a _f*ckin ballistic missile engine_ as you primary sources of thrust with the mig 31,
MiG-31 got better and different engines that could sustain high speeds for longer. That’s the MiG-25, the precursor of the MiG-31.
Surprisingly enough, MiG-31's engines oroginated from Tu-144 airliners. But it's no same engine; it was rigorously modified to do the job
I feel like the mig 31 gonna be a f104 on steroids
With R-37s? Its gonna be broken
giga steroid with 37Ms..
And BVR missiles broken enough to make bluefor mains cry till it gets nerfed
@@sooryan_1018 idk man all the Western planes can handle themselves very well
@@sooryan_1018they still cryin about su27 and su34…
Love the Mig-31, can't wait to see it.
R 37m is gonna be crazy.
@@martinwellhoefer9159 just r-33 for now
@@peposad2588 if you mean the normal variant of the R-37
then no... that one has barely 4G overload
@@martinwellhoefer9159 they’re not going to add it lmao
@@maxpopkov1432 they will sooner or later
On the later Mig-31, it carries R-77s (-1), R-37s, khinzal, R-73s and a big air to ground loadout
Kinzhal can only be carried by mig-31k, which is made only to use it
Ah yes, the totally hypersonic missile, the kinzhal
@ Well it is hypersonic reaching mach 10
@ Still a mig-31
@@RadiantCataclysmhypersonic or not doesn’t really matter, it’s speed to payload ratio is good enough
They Should have added the Foxbat back in the day to counter F-14
Missed Opotunity
It wouldnt
Mig25, if added right now, shouldn't be any higher br than 11.0.
@@devisucarlo7922 it purely depends on what missiles it gets
@@kazakhstanisastate4614 Not really.
R40RD range wise is like a slightly better AIM7F, but it can only pull 15Gs.
R23 are good for br 11.0 or 11.3 as these are the missiles that even the Mig23 can carry, which is also at 11.0.
R73 are of course really good in short ranges, problem is that to use these the Mig25 should boom and zoom enemies which are likely going to sit around the sea level and at those altitudes the Mig25 would have troubles to barely keep a speed of mach 1... meaning that boom and zoom against enemies at low altitudes efficiently is out of question.
@@devisucarlo7922 I mean there is a chance it gets the r-37/37m witch is an absurdly long range sarh missile
Now that we have things like the F-117 we can go full on vehicles that won't be that good in the game
Copium says i could get my V bombers one day
XB-70 event@@mattgoodwin2914
MiG-31 would certainly be extremely good in the game, it would be king of BVR.
for the Mig31 to be usable the maps need to be much much larger. even for the current jets they're too small as is
Yep, I'd like to see a sort of air superiority points with tickets such as ground RB and other perhaps other gamemodes so teams have to spread on the entire map too, because bigger maps, yes, but if it just ends up being people going in the middle it doesn't change much.
mig 31 would just be too op for current gameplay, it would climb first shoot its 4 missles (they are sarh but it can hardlock 4 targets at once) go defensive and land, f-14 on its release was exacly the same
@@peposad2588 thats if they are SARH, if it gets the version with 4 R-77s and 4 R-37Ms
@@airlightshockZOV it can get both r-77 and r-33, r-37m is waaaay too modern to be added any soon
@@peposad2588 Nerf it to be a bit better then the Aim-54C or fakour 90, or just add the R-37, not M variant
iv been waiting for mig25/31 for at least 6 years
what the fu-
bro has been waiting for mig31 since when the La-200 was top tier
But we need mig-31 and mig 25 together, becouse you can't jump just through it, and MiG-25 won't be bad at 11.3
Mig 25 can easily go at mach ~2. It will destroy the 11.3.
@@oyuncu_mayonez it will be horrible at up tiers that´s why? it has shit missiles?? underperforming radar and manuverability? and litteraly no guns
before mig25/31 they should add Su-9/11/15
It should be 12.3
we need the real flying bus
Air rb ec and ground with larger Maps, what i mean is more air space
neverrrr
Negativeeeee
I AGREE!
I agree, the air RB EC is needed
I miss the old RB Events where you could find a battle the same way as for simulator battles or now naval battles. At least bombers were useful there.
we should try to get the B-36 for america
Yea I love the peacemaker but gajik needs to fix bombers first give them an actual game mode or smt
@@Crashgrasse395 yeah, high tier bombers are painful because even the tu-4 can face a french interceptor with SARH missiles, nevermind more advanced missiles
And Gaijin will give him 8.3 BR minimum and make it unplayable...
Time to fly to space, launch a big ass missle from 5 billion miles away and scream off faster than any phoenix can intercept
MiG 31 isn’t useless, it turns F14s into lawn mowers!
The only night air rb match I've had was a prop only match. API-T was excitig in the dark. Would like to see more of them
Same i remember those matches from years ago. Those where fun.
MiG-31 winning fights through sheer dngine power alone will be so fun
Or with r33 with nuclear warhead
We need the Mig-31. There is no reason for it not to be in the game. It has insane speed and strong weapon kit, but no turning capabilities. So it could be balanced. It would basically be a better and faster Tornado F.3 Late.
there are very good reasons, outperforming radar and longest range missles we would have in the game.
MiG-25 should have been added with F-15
MiG-25s will suck so bad
Well, even though f-15 was made because of fear of mig-25, mig-25 is much worse overall and it has very different role (since it is interceptor, unlike f-15) which makes it incomparable. Very different speed, missiles, radar etc
@@abyS.S7 true but it would have been on theme
Should have been added alongside the F-14 tbh
Sim night battles would be so sick
Night battles in general would be awesome, and I would love to see these new afterburners at night
In my opinion one of the most important changes for ground RB would be that settings dont have that high influence-> so sound can only be lowered for everything notmaking your own engine quieter than the rest or effects and visual settings should be also have not that much of an influence because for example global lighting can change from high were you cant see anything in a corner of a building to low were it is like someone with a flashlight lightens up every dark place
What I think should be added is the AASM for the Mirage 2000D RMV, I know he don’t use them, BUT I do have pictures of a mirage 2000D (it’s 100% a 2000D since the only one with this paint job is the 2000N but he was retired of service before the AASM entered it) and since it’s a D it’s not a test aircraft (test mirage are only 2000B) he could carry at least 6, five with targeting pod and max probably 7 with a TGP and two fox 2
Ah yes AIR RB needs the mig31 not like it can just go mach 3 and say fck you to your missile.
dont forget about r-33's and awesome radar
MIG31 MY BELOVED MIG31 OHHHHH YESSSSS
Im pretty sure the MiG-31M is the most maneuverable in the MiG-31 and 25 series. However, in exchange for 6 R-37s and 4 wing pylons, you get no gun.
We are climbing to the stratosphere with this one
What they need to add is more maps to make top tier ground actually somewhat playable
Can't wait to clap f 14 mains out the sky with the Foxhound.
you wouldnt have a chance to meet them, you would need foxbat (mig-25) that gajin hates
Fun fact: MiG-31 has no countermeasures IRL.
i would love to see the f-105F/G with ARM's theyre just aim7's with a radar seeking head, pretty much. "short" range for how anti radiation missiles go. also maybe some ECM stuff too?
Yeah new 3D models what exactly we need in priority. Not a gameplay rework for jet aviation (we still play the same mode as prop planes)
I hope they put the mig-31 in war thunder for the update 😁
I don’t think they would just jump to a c variant. They didn’t with f15 f16 f14 etc. The example of the su24 only really happened because the original su24 was basically a modern il28 and su7 and it just wouldn’t be needed to fill the gap around mig27.
And what about Pantsir alternatives for other countries?? So many updates and pantsir still rules on two top BR's for SQB.
Gaijin : f u wont happen
Name some Pantsir alternatives
There is no alternative lol
@@sooryan_1018 hvsd/adams
Do the yak141 and say it would have gotten upgraded missle electronics and give it 20km range (the missle can go that range, the electronics cant)
Or 1 of the dosens of other prototypes
@@sooryan_1018 as for anything else
"the hyper velocity and high maneuverability of the VT1 offer a class-leading performance and allows a system with a 15km no escape zone against high maneuvering targets."-thales
Why not add this version?
(They are talking about a later version of the vt1 ,not the one currently ingame)
They will probably add a dual seat mig25 as a event vehicle...
i swear if they don't add F-18s next patch, it's gonna be completely DOA later on
Honestly night battles in air could be really good or really bad. Still better than ground i think
I don't think the F-18 should be added, and here is why. In order for this game to be somewhat balanced, aircraft of the same era need to be added. Currently there are quite a few countries that do not have their capable aircraft, like the Japanese F-2A or the British and German Eurofighter. So for America to get a F-18 before other countries get caught up in time periods would be a little too unfair or unbalanced, and since Gaijin "totally cares" about their game, this is why I think the F-18 can wait 1 more update.
I know it won't be all that viable but Ive been wanting the mig25/31 for so long
Scorpion would be very bad, because it only shoots a 76mm HE, even of it had HEAT it would be bad.
At 5.0-6.0 it might be fine, depending on the hesh performance and reload
they put the f117.with 2 bombs,the mig 25 and 31 have to be in the game now,maybe next year will come
finland actually also have f18
I would very mutch love if they add the big nuclear bombers of the cold war, i mean, they added the F117, a plane that doesn't have very useful capabilities in the game right now, so if they are adding this kinda of not so useful vehicles, why not go crazy and add the V bombers like the Vulcan or the B52 and the Bear
Its basically the F104, fast, no manuverability, No problem to be added
They would need to add an early mig 31 cause a mig 31bm would be op with ir 73m or r33s and r77m and r37m but you completely forgot the part where all mig 31s can carry the r 33s which is a hyper sonic aim 54 which is not fair so imagine a aim 54 that can go mach 6 with active radar systems with the r33s and the r37m
I need MiG-31 the snail must give me this considering how close to a mental breakdown am I
i straight up pogged when i saw the mig 31
Isn't there an ARH variant of the R-33 that the MiG-31 carries? Also, can't it carry the R-37?
Pretty sure the only thing the R-33 does better than a Phoenix is it’s maneuverability. Overall the tomcat would probably be a better pick than a MiG-31, but still a good plane to be added
F-14 would be better at close range, MiG-31 would dominate at BVR.
@ arguable. Yes it’s radar is great but compared to the Phoenix the R-33 is just a little bit more maneuverable- that’s it. The Phoenix is an ARH, longer range and will have no problems hitting a MiG 31 since it’s a brick
Imagine playing aerial battle simulator at night, 100%, making it mandatory to use night vision/thermal vision omg I want it nowww
Why would the F-18A HUG go to the British its a US jet plus the US already has the Aussie Abrams, makes no sense.
I mean yea but right now britian has almost zero good top tier aircraft
@ they’ll get a typhoon when it’s comes just makes no sense to not have both US made AAF vehicles in the US tree just don’t play GB top tier lol
@@Vrooto Germany with only 13.0: 🌚
mig 31 would be a F104 in top tier
I think that even if the mig 31 is indentical to the mig 25, the mig 25 should be added
@@TommasoDiSalvo Mig31 is completely different than the Mig25.
They're very different. They only look a little same
night battles for air. well weather operations were a thing 7-8 years ago
(This is not new)
we should get mig-31 as techtree and 2 versions of mig-25. one prem and one techtree
gaijin will add all old jets which had to be in the games years ago after f22
Hey I was wondering if you could contact gajin about giving the f14B mk47 phoenixes and aim9ms but a an increase to 13.3
Also the su33D should be added to Russia
I think the mig-31 hasn't been added because of the R-37's but I'm not sure
Could be added with the non M r37s or r33
Maybe even r40
@nikolaideianov5092 have to be honest with you I'm not that familiar with Russian missiles I recognize the whole R-27 series and the R-77 series as well as the various R-60 and R-73 models but other then those I don't know Russian missles
@@colehopper8091 r40 Old long rang missile
R33 not soo old long range missile (but still pretty old)
R37 newst long range missile
from what ive heared the non M version just cant pull much g
(Although just from their speed they wont be pulling much)
As per ukraine r37/r37m missles arent downing many planes (but are forceing them to evade)
mig 31 but no mig 25 good job gajin
the mig31 is a direct upgrade to the mig25.
the mig25 is basically useless in the current game
Why do people want the Mig-25 so badly? It doesn't even have cannons lol
To be honest with you, they could make the 25 a squadron vehicle (I would 100% reaserch it), to make it like some sort of collection aircraft. The right time to add it is long in the past sadly.
I think they missed their window of opportunity to add mig 25 in current meta would make it dead
@@flymax4066 because we love it, and we do not care if it will be good or not.
If mig31 gets added we'll need 256x256 maps to not make it too OP
That’s only if the R-37M comes. The MiG-31 wouldn’t be that op, actually kind of underwhelming
it would be like the current f15e flying at mach 2 and lauching missiles like nothing. Even with r77 would be a bit OP (it can take r77-1 which is on aim120 level and has been leaked to come too)
@@_0minutes Except it’s speed is only retained in straight lines. The F-15E was op because it was maneuvering and accelerating past mach 2 above 35,000 feet. The MiG-31 won’t do that.
@@christopherchartier3017 might be a brick but can still turn. Turn enough
@@_0minutes Not that it literally CANT turn, but it’s gonna bleed all that speed away where an F-15 won’t. Plus it’s acceleration is worse, so you’re likely not hitting that 2.8 Mach limit
This business model/ game lol... You really cant see the F18 hornet premium?
Still wondering when the bugs that been in the game for years going to be fixed…
i just want the wheels to steer when we rudder
huh 2.83 redline not max since it would burn itself if higher than that
mig 31 too op for the map on bvr, the key is to have fast acceleration on air RB so this will break the game
They shouldnt add just that fa-18, they should add all the fa-18 variants, which could come to the game. Even the 'a variants, i dont think it would be that bad to add the 'a's because they added a few models of the f-16a, the f-15a, even the f-14a, with even an iranian version. Would be a little weird not to add the 'a variants to the techtrees that had them, wouldnt it? I mean it would be even more outragious if gaijin didnt add any fa-18 variants this update, just like the recent leaks mat showed us predict. Would be like gaijin is living under a f*cking rock. It isnt just about the fa-18. It is about the rest of the vehicles and planes as well, i just think that people want the fa-18 more and also i dont really have an interest about russian planes, but still, there are people like us (people who want the fa-18 to come to the game, including me), who want other things, but still have the same reasons they want those vehicles to come to the game, and share the same feelings with us.
we need some things
I NEED MY MIG-31!!!
Why do people care about passed to developers it means noting things have been on the list for years now
All I want is the Patriot system. That’s it. I don’t care about anything else on the game anymore, not new jets or tanks. Just getting a new anti-air system. Absolutely pathetic that the best the US gets is an anti-tank missile system that just coincidentally is great at being a SAM within 6km.
The question is, are there any Patriot models with their own radar? if not, then you will most likely never see him in your hangar.
we need anti-aircraft systems that are similar to pantsir, pantsir c1 rules in the short range, it has no analogues, but for the medium range, war thunder maps are not yet ready for such anti-aircraft systems.
do you just like, flip a coin for each word in the title to decide if it'll be all-caps or not?
Final some bvr fights for ussr
Is there any reason no one talks about mig-25 instead of mig-31
Because the Mig-25 sucks
Mig 25 will be a worse F104 without a gun
Mig-25 is not really suitable for the game, though it would be a nice event/squadron vehicle
Gaijin should place mig-25 at 9.7 and this mig-31 at 11.7! It would fix the lack of fighters in air sim at this BR
do you forget that mig-25 goes mach 3?
Not with pesa rader
@@onii-chan1966mach 3 which it will never realistically do and its a boat with trash radar and missiles so it doesnt matter much
Bruh it will face sub sonic planes regularly NOT GONNA HAPPEN @@FutureGohanGlazer
@@nikolaideianov5092 btw it has no gun at all and 0 countermeasures while also having no flight model lol
nah bro we need aim7r for that f15a
Nice so we Will just get another missile loober
how is radar?
amazing
how is engine?
amazing
how is acceleration?
amazing
dude, improve your vocabulary please
with love)
Do you speak other languages ? having one word to describe a thing as « good » is not that bad
We just need anti radiation missiles
I don't really care about new vehicles, when are we gonna get some gamemode overhaul? ARB and GRBs are as dull as eating dry crackers.
31? Huh? Actually they should introduce Mig-25 first !
No its useless
MiG-25 in WT would be entirely useless. At sea level it can’t even break Mach, and it takes ages to get to altitude. The weapons wouldn’t be very good, and the radar is pretty damn poor. MiG-31 would actually be useable.
F-18 shoulda been added yesterday like .......
Mig-25 pls…..
MiG 31 I neeeeeeeeeeeeeed
no mig 25 :(
why the fuck would they add the mig31 before the 25
There is very little information about the mig 25 and this aircraft was not intended for a battle with other aircraft, it was mainly intended for the rapid delivery of nuclear weapons.
Su-30MKI with Russian, domestic Indian and Israeli armament
Why tf would the Israel's get a sukhoi?
I just want to express how BAD this player base has gotten since beta, I can't find not one person to cover me on a bombing run in air rb or air ab. I'm disgusted, I hate my team now more then the enemy team.
Oh but bombing in air rb Is the best way to grind and I'm a clown for playing ab. Righttt 🥴
@judgement4934 an is more fun in my opinion, and your right just don't last very long without cover
Agr só prescisa lançar no canal brasileiro
😂😂 yes the USSR does need something that will keep the mains in a sim battle for longer than two snorties🎉
AC-130
No
Ac47
@@nikolaideianov5092 both in the same update (striker line)
If RU is only getting the Su-33 and MiG-31 vs Euro Fighter and Rafale ☠️ at this point RU is gonna need a Crazy Flanker to stand a chance!
Or Gaijin just buff them like they buffed Russian and Chinese tanks with reduced spalling from side shots to stop Russians crying about getting 1 shotted in the ammo carousel.
Mig31 would come like the Su34. R37M removed 😂
@@zeitgeistx5239 that's why targeting speed on most russian tanks is nerfed and Spall liners of T-80U and T-62M-1 are missing
@@sturmovik_80T-62M needs it BAD
We need a SU-30 or SU-27SM3 atleast
when trailer
Don't no
5 or 6 December
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I hope they don't add night battles without a toggle. The dusk battles with heavy clouds is bad enough, I don't need night with heavy clouds. I think it should only be for 13.7 where most of those planes have NVGs. If not, then id probably just J out at that point.
finally mig 31 for real mig25 need to add the same time with F14
The su 57 need to come into the game! Its amazing plane he must to be added
its OK as an 4.5 gen fighter but it lacks proper stealth tech and there are only 5(? i think) that exist lmao
@@bartman1887 YES BUT Its flight performance is excellent and it has a good air-to-air missile kit
It’s going to be scout drone food 😂
@@maxpopkov1432 ???
@@bartman1887 it's more than 5 that exist, probably around 20 are in service.
Also it's stealth definitly works, it flew already over ukrainian territory and Patriot radars didn't spot it at less than 50km
This< more stuff for minor nations
mig31 is completely unnecessary. The USSR needs a maneuverable fighter with a well-tuned model and Fox3 missiles
Yeah we need a SU-30 or SU-27SM2 and if they add the Rafael or Eurofighter then we NEED a SU-35 and MiG-35
@plex2109 agree
Mig 31 i feel will be the most broken jet in the game it goes mach 3 so it will be the fastest in the game and the russian bias in game dont help
Am i the first?
1 min late
Миг 25 или миг 31 просто сломают игру
I‘M FIRST