E0S1 Acheron Hyper ft E0S0 SW vs ft E0S0 Jiaoqiu - MoC 12 | Honkai Star Rail

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 20 жов 2024

КОМЕНТАРІ • 92

  • @ravelika
    @ravelika  2 місяці тому +45

    1. What about Jiaoqiu with SW?
    Tried it. It's worse compared to JQ Pela. The problem with SW is she can't get her ult fast enough.
    2. Have you tried another boss other than Past Present and Eternal Snow because that boss is weak against fire which means Jiaoqiu has an advantage here?
    I don't want to make the vid too long. I tried it on Argenti side and the difference is slightly worse for Acheron SW. Acheron SW cleared in 2-3 cycles while Acheron Jiaoqiu consistently cleared in 1 cycle.
    My conclusion: He is bis support for Acheron no doubt. More damage + more stacks. I'll 100% recommend to pull for him if you want your Acheron to last longer in the meta.

    • @kunalgaikwad5576
      @kunalgaikwad5576 2 місяці тому +1

      How better is he compared to bs in Acheron team, and overall for a account which char would be better to pull for Blackswam Or jiaoqui ( I have no dot character)

    • @ravelika
      @ravelika  2 місяці тому +9

      @@kunalgaikwad5576 Acheron JQ is far ahead If you only have BS without Kafka. Overall JQ is better for hypercarry team while BS is better for DoT team.

    • @taru5156
      @taru5156 2 місяці тому +1

      ez full score PF too with him in acheron team

    • @shinysalami
      @shinysalami 2 місяці тому

      Acheron Lightcone or Jiaoqiu E0S0, which would would be more worth it?

    • @ravelika
      @ravelika  2 місяці тому +4

      @@shinysalami E0S0 JQ > Acheron LC. I just cleared the same floor in 1 cycle with S5 GNSW. Will upload it later.

  • @apleb7605
    @apleb7605 Місяць тому +13

    I have to say, the jump from switching Guinaifen to Jiaoqiu in my Acheron team was pretty big. It was good timing too as I felt my Acheron team was falling vastly behind my Firefly team (granted I got extremely lucky and got E2S1 Firefly and E1 RM, making the team extremely cracked.)

    • @Dado_nastro
      @Dado_nastro Місяць тому

      Same (except my firefly is only E1S0)

  • @IO-hh3gw
    @IO-hh3gw 2 місяці тому +35

    I'm glad that Jiaoqiu is a really dedicated Acheron support cuz Acheron is the most versatile DPS I don't see her falling of the Meta she's already Broken but they decided to release a Support for her to make her even broken 😂😂😂

    • @ravelika
      @ravelika  2 місяці тому +11

      Yep, JQ just makes her more future proof.

    • @gharbisyassine7576
      @gharbisyassine7576 2 місяці тому +8

      She fell so hard in pf and as and in moc if jiao didn’t release she would have fell the same way , jiao thankfully saved her in all modes and brought her back to T0 in as and T0.5 in pf .( waiting for prydwen to update 🙄)

    • @rust5427
      @rust5427 2 місяці тому +4

      @@gharbisyassine7576prydwen so slow 🙄🙄 jiaoqiu should’ve been 0.5 in all modes

    • @lily-eh1ei
      @lily-eh1ei Місяць тому

      Acheron and ff will sit on top tier for long time. Ff will get lingsha soon andd aaceron just got jq

    • @gharbisyassine7576
      @gharbisyassine7576 Місяць тому

      @@lily-eh1ei hoyo made so much money from them , they will try to keep them playable for a long time

  • @currentlyvibing9916
    @currentlyvibing9916 Місяць тому

    I patiently waiting for an Acheron rerun for her light cone, then this team will be complete

  • @TerraTheWise
    @TerraTheWise Місяць тому +1

    I mean yea single target debuffer is going to perform worse in AoE than someone who can debuff every enemy on the field on top of generating more stacks. It was quite clear Jiaoqiu was always better for Acheron. I’m much more in JQ + SW vs JQ + Pela for single target since that’s where Acheron’s performance drops a bit.

  • @nicholasrodriguez1139
    @nicholasrodriguez1139 2 місяці тому +18

    Silver wolf power creep is fucking insane jesus

    • @TheRealTact
      @TheRealTact Місяць тому

      She’s cooked,but I love her so much I hope there will be another character who she works well with.

    • @Vindenci
      @Vindenci Місяць тому

      The problem with silver wolf is that new units dps units ignores weakness type and new units have aoe buff dps, in a single target scenario silver wolf is better but slow to keep up with new units

    • @Vindenci
      @Vindenci Місяць тому

      Sorry broken english tho

    • @lily-eh1ei
      @lily-eh1ei Місяць тому

      😢😢 now my sw is not used anymore. Mono quantum does not work well with current domain. I give sw sign lc to mmy e6 pela

    • @sebanitoBB
      @sebanitoBB Місяць тому +1

      I remember people saying she was future proof cause of her element change unique to her

  • @KevjuGaming
    @KevjuGaming Місяць тому +1

    Hi Ravelika! this was an awesome showcase, could we gain permission to use this in a future video? We will give you credits and a link to your channel under the video, Cheers!

  • @naz8740
    @naz8740 2 місяці тому +13

    94/192 in acheron. WTF?

  • @ImagineCats9339
    @ImagineCats9339 Місяць тому +1

    Can you please do this comparison again , but against a boss that doesn't heavily favor Fire break characters?
    because this comparison one wasn't fair at all , and you know most hsr players are not very smart to take the context into consideration

    • @March-ph9ey
      @March-ph9ey Місяць тому

      It wouldn't change much. Neither SW nor Jiaoqiu contribute much to breaks, and Jiaoqiu's personal damage is also negligible to where having a fire weakness doesn't matter.
      Also, a comparison via showcase isn't necessary here, just look at his kit, he clearly provides more stacks per cycle, which is the main reason he was able to clear it in one less cycle than SW(both waves he overkilled, so the slight difference in damage per ult is irrelevant)

  • @MJAY552
    @MJAY552 2 місяці тому +1

    Hi, I use Guanaifen for acheron team, is he worth it like how much is the difference? I'd love if you made a comparison video.

    • @UltimatePollo3495
      @UltimatePollo3495 2 місяці тому +3

      Bro guinaifen isn't even better than pela for acheron and if jiaoqui is better than pela which he is then the gap is huge

    • @MJAY552
      @MJAY552 2 місяці тому

      I have pela and guanaifen for her team. And it's all I have. I am just asking like what's the gap between them, if he is worth pulling since I have enough pulls for 1 character

    • @solo_1427
      @solo_1427 Місяць тому

      He's good but I'd say wait for his rerun, are your pela and gui e6? Also what superimposition on pearls lc?

    • @ninthfriend3347
      @ninthfriend3347 Місяць тому +3

      @@MJAY552 It's a huge gap. Guinaifen is not a good amplifier for Acheron because her stacks builds up way too slow. Jiaoqiu is much better than her. I recommend you pick him up especially if your Acheron is e0 with or without her sig lc.
      Like Ravelika said, he will keep Acheron relevant in the meta for longer time.

    • @MJAY552
      @MJAY552 Місяць тому

      @@ninthfriend3347 Interesting. So he is perfect for s0 acheron havers?

  • @Kriss.S.V
    @Kriss.S.V Місяць тому

    Maybe you should focused acheron talent on 1 enemy for more damage😢

  • @Akuji.
    @Akuji. Місяць тому +2

    5:45 u could wait to break the toughness
    Ig she had a chance o one shot them

  • @sasorioftheredsand4348
    @sasorioftheredsand4348 2 місяці тому +4

    How much do you recommend his Light Cone?

    • @loiso_pondokhva
      @loiso_pondokhva 2 місяці тому

      very strong but not necessary

    • @ravelika
      @ravelika  2 місяці тому

      It's good but not needed since he has many good alternatives. You can pull it if you have extra jades otherwise just save it.

    • @judgeyy
      @judgeyy 2 місяці тому

      silver wolf's signature light cone is a lot better for him if you have it

    • @TheRealTact
      @TheRealTact Місяць тому

      @@judgeyythat’s cap

    • @cecilia8569
      @cecilia8569 Місяць тому

      ​@@judgeyy how is that old lc just give 24% ehr is better than his sig lc😂?

  • @mcbx3d
    @mcbx3d 2 місяці тому

    This enemy it's full AOE, can you try too against the other other side?

  • @skennylegend1835
    @skennylegend1835 2 місяці тому +2

    How about E0S0 JQ w/ Tutorial LC vs E0S1 JQ? Is there a big difference in damage with Acheron/clear time? Assuming both JQ builds reach stat breakpoints

    • @ravelika
      @ravelika  2 місяці тому +2

      Slightly more damage with his LC but there won't be any difference in clear time.

  • @laar5483
    @laar5483 Місяць тому

    I managed to pull jiaoqui E0S0, is the lightcone worth to pull?

    • @ashtancf5409
      @ashtancf5409 Місяць тому

      Super worth

    • @TerraTheWise
      @TerraTheWise Місяць тому

      24% vulnerability = 24% damage increase. Quite strong.

    • @ghouldiamond8745
      @ghouldiamond8745 Місяць тому

      The lightcone itself is very strong but the main question is, do you even need it? Cuz if you can confortably clear any content using e0s0 then you don't need to pull for his lightcone

    • @lily-eh1ei
      @lily-eh1ei Місяць тому

      Dont pull!! His e1 aamplify 40% damagge and he gets 1extra stack per action. His lc only amplify 24% daamage wwith ehr 60% which obtainable from reelic and planar.

    • @lily-eh1ei
      @lily-eh1ei Місяць тому

      ​@@TerraTheWisee1 is more worthy

  • @marupurusaivamsi4802
    @marupurusaivamsi4802 2 місяці тому

    Bro can you do black swan + pela+ sus+ acheron to replacing jiaoqiu?.

    • @ravelika
      @ravelika  2 місяці тому +1

      I don't have BS.

    • @rusty9835
      @rusty9835 Місяць тому

      black swan sucks , guina,silverwolf ar better

    • @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
      @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 Місяць тому

      BS is only for DoT team, Jiaoqiu is better in this case, SW if you want to skip for JQ

  • @CannyCeles
    @CannyCeles 2 місяці тому +1

    Try this in argenti half, this boss heavily favors JQ over SW

    • @ravelika
      @ravelika  2 місяці тому +8

      It's even worse on Argenti side. SW clear is 2-3 cycles but 3 cycles most of the time while JQ clear is 1 cycle consistently. Maybe i should upload the vid next hm.

    • @CannyCeles
      @CannyCeles 2 місяці тому

      @@ravelika looking forward to it

  • @handrel1
    @handrel1 Місяць тому +1

    I really don't like his joke NPC design and skill animation. Maybe I'll pull him in version 4.X when Acheron gone mid tier.

    • @taru5156
      @taru5156 Місяць тому +4

      lingsha's design is way more npc than him lol, anyway goodluck with ur 10 cycle moc

    • @tardwrangler1019
      @tardwrangler1019 Місяць тому

      Skill issue​@@taru5156

  • @Songbird905
    @Songbird905 Місяць тому +1

    Ended fireflop in so many language