Mars Helicopter Completes Demo Mission, Gets New Mission To Explore Further!

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
  • Ingenuity AKA Mars Helicopter AKA Lil' Choppa is by far our favourite space mission at the moment, the tiny space explorer has succeeded in demonstrating new technologies and capabilities, and now, it's been sufficiently successful that it's going to fly for a few more months and try to stay close to its parent rover Perseverance.
    Rover & Helicopter tracking map is here:
    perseverancero...
    Some of the best processed movies were posted by the users of unmannedspaceflight -
    www.unmannedspa...

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  • @franky47
    @franky47 3 роки тому +788

    There are only two hard problems in computing: naming things, cache invalidation, and off-by-one errors.

    • @owensparks5013
      @owensparks5013 3 роки тому +89

      There are also ten types of people, those who understand binary, and those that don't.

    • @TheAechBomb
      @TheAechBomb 3 роки тому +131

      @@owensparks5013 it works better if you write it '10'

    • @owensparks5013
      @owensparks5013 3 роки тому +24

      @@TheAechBomb Indeed, but I wanted the reader to have to work a little harder for it.

    • @snygg1993
      @snygg1993 3 роки тому +114

      @@owensparks5013 I would say, "ten" is not "harder", it is just wrong 😜
      You cannot write "ten", because it has to be "10" to still be "two" (for people that understand binary) ... so writing "ten" instead of "10" makes it just a false statement ... live with it, you messed it up 😀

    • @owensparks5013
      @owensparks5013 3 роки тому +29

      @@snygg1993
      Well the first half of your statement is technically correct, and we know technically correct is the best type of correct, so feel free to take the win. 😀👍

  • @Tjalve70
    @Tjalve70 3 роки тому +813

    5:49 I think you meant 1/3 gravity. Not 1/3 atmosphere of pressure.

    • @nesa1126
      @nesa1126 3 роки тому +75

      AHA. I noticed it to. Feel so smart to notice Scott made a simple mistake lol.

    • @MP-wt9kz
      @MP-wt9kz 3 роки тому +41

      yes, pressure on Earth is around 100000 Pascal and on Mars, it is 610 Pascal so it is tiny

    • @rdizzy1
      @rdizzy1 3 роки тому +25

      @@MP-wt9kz It does get higher than that in some places, which is why the average is about 610. Hellas Plantitia gets up to like 1200 pascals.

    • @moosemaimer
      @moosemaimer 3 роки тому +17

      The flight simulator in Google Earth lets you fly on Mars. You cannot make it over Olympus Mons.

    • @FredPlanatia
      @FredPlanatia 3 роки тому +14

      hehe, when i heard it i immediately scrolled down and its the 1st comment, just as i expected :-)

  • @JohnSmith-rf1tx
    @JohnSmith-rf1tx 3 роки тому +28

    Running into problems is actually very good news for a tech demonstration mission. If everything works perfectly, you aren't learning as much as possible. Hard to walk that line though, between pushing harder, encountering new and unexpected issues but risking permanently breaking your hardware and cutting testing short or not pushing that hard and ensuring you get lots of run time, but also ending up with fewer learning opportunities.

  • @toonbat
    @toonbat 3 роки тому +585

    Next test: Is the martian air thick enough to play the Airwolf theme on a loudspeaker.

    • @TheTechnoPilot
      @TheTechnoPilot 3 роки тому +14

      Hahahahaha! Ahhh yes!

    • @piranha031091
      @piranha031091 3 роки тому +52

      You can, but the thin air means a lot of the higher frequencies are cut off. So basically, a low-pass, bass-boosted version of Airwolf.

    • @aevangel1
      @aevangel1 3 роки тому +15

      By coincidence, I've recently acquired Airwolf on blu-ray and have been binge watching it.
      I vote for playing the Airwolf theme during Ingenuity flights!

    • @moosemaimer
      @moosemaimer 3 роки тому +4

      Is Perseverance K.I.T.T. or K.A.R.R.?

    • @ArKritz84
      @ArKritz84 3 роки тому +1

      @@moosemaimer Thunderbirds Transmitter Truck, ofc.

  • @khmaatta4624
    @khmaatta4624 3 роки тому +74

    Seeing the dust blown in the air under Ingenuity, came to mind how cool it would be for it to find other rovers suffering from dusty solar panels and just hover a while over them to clean them up.. 😁

    • @midwestnagyfa
      @midwestnagyfa 3 роки тому +5

      *Finds native rover and helps out*

    • @ArnoldSig
      @ArnoldSig 3 роки тому +8

      I wonder why solar panels don't have "wind-screen wipers" in these kind of applications

    • @yastreb.
      @yastreb. 3 роки тому +6

      @@ArnoldSig It has been considered but it would add too much complexity and mass. Moving parts are always trouble.

    • @ArnoldSig
      @ArnoldSig 3 роки тому +2

      Yastreb Yeah its a trouble, but so is losing your only power supply

    • @CaptainFuzzo
      @CaptainFuzzo 3 роки тому +5

      I would think It would be much easier to blow compressed air over the panels than to wipe them

  • @ediakaran
    @ediakaran 3 роки тому +144

    "Whose helicopter is this?"
    "It's a chopper, baby."

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 3 роки тому +10

      @@OOOh857 Zeds dead baby.

    • @tedlis517
      @tedlis517 3 роки тому +3

      Now I’m craving blueberry pancakes.

    • @infinitespace2520
      @infinitespace2520 3 роки тому +4

      "Get to tha choppaahh!"

    • @oskarn5384
      @oskarn5384 3 роки тому +1

      Needed this comment !

    • @Liberty4Ever
      @Liberty4Ever 3 роки тому +6

      Where's my rover?
      Sorry baby. I had to crash that rover.

  • @2nd-place
    @2nd-place 3 роки тому +63

    It’s no wonder the Zigbee signal works so well on Mars. There is no electromagnetic interference from surrounding radio devices and the air is really thin.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 3 роки тому +18

      Same for the sound recording being so easily separated from background traffic noise from all the other rovers.

  • @crunchydango
    @crunchydango 3 роки тому +15

    As someone who is somewhat involved in mechanical stress and some destructive testing of aerospace hardware, I'd love to see Ingenuity fly over the crash site for the Sky Crane and get some close-up shots. Also, that impact certainly would have disturbed the surface quite a bit, so some ground features below the surface would be visible for at least a little while until the Martian wind blew sand all over the site.

  • @ulle85
    @ulle85 3 роки тому +78

    Yes Scott, I remember one of your early duna KSP missions where you brought a lot of stuff, including an “airplane”. Remember it being the death of Jeb trying to fly in the thin atmosphere... but now we have an actual helicopter on Mars, truly amazing!

  • @sergeysapozhnikov5717
    @sergeysapozhnikov5717 3 роки тому +286

    Ah yes, debugging the control script after landing your craft at another planet.
    Kerbal Operating System usage experience does mimic real world space software writing experience somewhat after all.

    • @superslimanoniem4712
      @superslimanoniem4712 3 роки тому +32

      I mean... It's software, and no software never has bugs. Even the simplest program can suffer from plain old bad luck because of a random bit flip. Now consider that this program has to control a helicopter autonomously. It's bound to have some problems. Hope they can get it fixed.

    • @Orlandofurioso95
      @Orlandofurioso95 3 роки тому +7

      Dear lord, I am trying to write an autopilot for a supersonic plane but the damn thing keeps shaking itself to pieces, no matter how I tune the PIDs

    • @sergeysapozhnikov5717
      @sergeysapozhnikov5717 3 роки тому +3

      @@Orlandofurioso95 Hm. I wrote an extremely simple altitude hold script, and it worked well at supersonic speeds. It does not do any fancy maneuvering tho, just holding altitude and heading. Could also be craft-dependent

    • @sergeysapozhnikov5717
      @sergeysapozhnikov5717 3 роки тому +8

      @asdrubale bisanzio I bet they did, and this bug was far from obvious. Well, it's not a very bold bet, but most likely, they did some testing in Earth.

    • @peter9477
      @peter9477 3 роки тому +17

      @asdrubale bisanzio You sound like someone who has written very little code yourself. Real programmers usually learn some humility, after their first seven thousand bugs.

  • @captaintoyota3171
    @captaintoyota3171 3 роки тому +234

    This last few years has nade me feel like a kid again watching all the space progress. Really fights my nihilistic view of our species. Gives me slight hope

    • @onedeadsaint
      @onedeadsaint 3 роки тому +6

      gotta hide joy where you can, at least that's what I try to do when fighting against my own nihilism.

    • @IRMentat
      @IRMentat 3 роки тому +7

      Watch Isaac Arthur
      It’s nice to think on the macro scale for a while as the daily grind and social media permanent purveyor of tantrums remove any faith in humanity.

    • @wakatpr6583
      @wakatpr6583 3 роки тому +17

      @@IRMentat yeah small tip : if you really want to know how the world is doing : watch statistics, don’t read newspapers. Gives a much broader and more objective vision of the world, and there are actually many things improving (I mean basically everything is better than ever besides everything environment and maybe suicide rates).

    • @spoonfuloffructose
      @spoonfuloffructose 3 роки тому +2

      Nihilism is for dorks.

    • @MrKillswitch88
      @MrKillswitch88 3 роки тому +9

      @@spoonfuloffructose Toxic positivity is for weaklings.

  • @TheCastorPlays
    @TheCastorPlays 3 роки тому +183

    "The electronics are laid out...logically" ffs Scott, that one almost hurt

    • @ylette
      @ylette 3 роки тому +3

      🤣

    • @BobStein
      @BobStein 3 роки тому +2

      The analog parts are iffy though.

  • @Huntracony
    @Huntracony 3 роки тому +106

    Ingenuity feels like a kid prancing about while daddy Perseverance is trying to do their job. I love it.

    • @AndreSomers
      @AndreSomers 3 роки тому +2

      How very COVID-age. Many parents will recognize that problem now…

    • @torinor6703
      @torinor6703 3 роки тому +1

      Name checks out lol

  • @MrHichammohsen1
    @MrHichammohsen1 3 роки тому +94

    We need a video on future flying concepts on Mars!

    • @name.placeholder1965
      @name.placeholder1965 3 роки тому +2

      Rocket propulsion is probably gonna be the way to go, unless we can make super powerful rotors to make flight possible for heavier objects.

    • @gustavgnoettgen
      @gustavgnoettgen 3 роки тому

      @@name.placeholder1965 Wings don't need necessarily fuel. It's very hard with that thin atmosphere but I would go for it.

    • @summanus3696
      @summanus3696 3 роки тому +7

      Drone Swarms on Mars?

    • @gewizz2
      @gewizz2 3 роки тому +3

      a normal 4 motor quadcopter is most durable

    • @JohnDoe-tt6bh
      @JohnDoe-tt6bh 3 роки тому +3

      Titan dragonfly probe

  • @islandsedition
    @islandsedition 3 роки тому +29

    2k views and this 13m video was only released 8m ago.
    Spectacular performance. Fly safe.

  • @realhorrorshow8547
    @realhorrorshow8547 3 роки тому +5

    So impressed that the "Lil' Choppa" could fly and land even with the glitch. (Always a sucker for the "brave little robot" vibe.) The tech seems to be working so well on this mission.

  • @Goldsilver
    @Goldsilver 3 роки тому +129

    Great update. Thank you.

  • @DeserdiVerimas
    @DeserdiVerimas 3 роки тому +224

    5:50 "In what the human body would consider to be a vacuum, but it does help that it had one-third atmosphere of pressure" what? surely you mean one-third the weight?

    • @DJ_Level_3
      @DJ_Level_3 3 роки тому +65

      If I recall correctly it has one tenth of Earth's pressure and one third of the gravity, so yes. Probably a verbal typo.

    • @milkdrinker7
      @milkdrinker7 3 роки тому +2

      I caught that too

    • @lucas29476
      @lucas29476 3 роки тому +6

      @@DJ_Level_3 Wiki says 6% pressure. And well-spotted. I immediately commented the same too.

    • @Tjalve70
      @Tjalve70 3 роки тому +43

      @@lucas29476 0,6% of Earth's atmospheric pressure. Not 6%.
      At the lowest point, the pressure is as high as 1,1%.

    • @DeserdiVerimas
      @DeserdiVerimas 3 роки тому +7

      @@DJ_Level_3 even less than that in terms of pressure, I think! wikipedia says less than 1%, which makes Ingenuity all the more impressive

  • @dennisfahey2379
    @dennisfahey2379 3 роки тому +16

    Zigbee works very well when there are only two nodes on the entire planet!

  • @Tallone55
    @Tallone55 3 роки тому +67

    Come now, Papyrus and Comic Sans? Even without the fascinating explanation and commentary I'd have to watch with a thumbnail like that.

    • @PabloSanchez-qu6ib
      @PabloSanchez-qu6ib 3 роки тому +2

      No, no. You have the very similar but wrong fonts. Those are little green man sans and graphenus.

    • @Musikur
      @Musikur 3 роки тому

      Nyahaha!

  • @pietrodicanio9404
    @pietrodicanio9404 3 роки тому +77

    Probably these photos are the most important things of the year, we are exploring that red sand globe, and that’s marvelous

    • @SpydersByte
      @SpydersByte 3 роки тому

      yea, its really amazing to see

  • @falxonPSN
    @falxonPSN 3 роки тому +108

    The first person on Mars needs to direct his crewmate to visit Ingenuity. "GET TO THE CHOPPA! GO! NOW!"

    • @csn583
      @csn583 3 роки тому +16

      If SpaceX wins the race I'm sure they'll meme the shit out of it.

    • @angusmacfrankenstein7227
      @angusmacfrankenstein7227 3 роки тому +4

      If only Andy Weir had waited to write _The Martian;_ he would have had Watney utter that line!

    • @ryanab01
      @ryanab01 3 роки тому +2

      Hopefully in an Austrian accent.

    • @brandon3883
      @brandon3883 3 роки тому +1

      Dammit, you beat me to it. Although I was going to go with something like "if something goes wrong with the helicopter, will Perseverance be commanded to "get to the choppa!"?

    • @thelovertunisia
      @thelovertunisia 3 роки тому

      @@ikarus605 Yes especially if the Chinese keep up the pressure.

  • @calebjones3383
    @calebjones3383 3 роки тому +75

    Those rotors are 1.2m in length! I thought they were 30cm or something, that's insane.

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 3 роки тому +8

      Agreed! I forgot just how BIG those rotors are!!

    • @sandybarnes887
      @sandybarnes887 3 роки тому +13

      The rover is the size of a SUV. Amazing stuff.

    • @TheAechBomb
      @TheAechBomb 3 роки тому +1

      is that tip-to-tip?

    • @sandybarnes887
      @sandybarnes887 3 роки тому +3

      @@TheAechBomb yeah

    • @ArKritz84
      @ArKritz84 3 роки тому

      @@TheAechBomb yes, that'd be the diameter.

  • @sciencewolf7775
    @sciencewolf7775 3 роки тому +102

    Now it’s completed the demo, when’s the full release coming out?

    • @angusmacfrankenstein7227
      @angusmacfrankenstein7227 3 роки тому +15

      Oh it's out, but you have to download 19 GB worth of updates after purchase!

    • @Tjalve70
      @Tjalve70 3 роки тому +17

      It will come out with the next Mars rover.

    • @godofthunder6259
      @godofthunder6259 3 роки тому +2

      Probably with Ksp if it's ever released...

    • @torinor6703
      @torinor6703 3 роки тому +2

      Full sized mars helicopter when?

    • @3gunslingers
      @3gunslingers 3 роки тому +6

      When a nuclear powered helicopter lands on Titan. No joke. NASA is actually planning this.

  • @flashwolve2178
    @flashwolve2178 3 роки тому +4

    The helicopter knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.

  • @rubenleal4821
    @rubenleal4821 3 роки тому +55

    So, if a helicopter flies on Mars, but no one is there to hear it, it still makes a sound.

    • @Sherwoody
      @Sherwoody 3 роки тому +12

      If a drone flies on Mars and there is only a man there to hear it will his wife still say he’s wrong.

    • @kaizen9451
      @kaizen9451 3 роки тому +3

      chopper go brrr

  • @worldtraveler930
    @worldtraveler930 3 роки тому +4

    I guess your closing statement of "Fly Safe" takes on a whole new meaning on Mars! 🤠👍

  • @FoxtrotYouniform
    @FoxtrotYouniform 3 роки тому +7

    "what does a box of electronics contain?"
    well, you've answered your own question

  • @TechyBen
    @TechyBen 3 роки тому +62

    "If you've ever had control lag in a game" or, as we call it in the UK "Or if you're Scottish"... we've all been there Scott, we've all had "control lag" after a few too many at the local pub! :D

    • @oldfrend
      @oldfrend 3 роки тому +1

      they must've not grown up playing quake on a dialup connection =P

  • @dewayneblue1834
    @dewayneblue1834 3 роки тому +9

    Controlled helicopter flight in an atmosphere so thin, that it's like trying to fly at around 35 km altitude on Earth. Just amazing.

  • @alfredogonzalez1280
    @alfredogonzalez1280 3 роки тому +4

    This is one of your best videos according to my taste for technical stuff and pure graphic joy. Watching Ingenuity fly and wobble and the trajectory maps, just awesome !!

  • @asdfxcy
    @asdfxcy 3 роки тому +5

    Ha, I literally found the exact same bug in our camera driver at work! It somtimes caused the frame timestamps to be off by one frame and if that happened our SLAM system went haywire as well.

  • @HarshVardhan0-3
    @HarshVardhan0-3 3 роки тому +3

    "Ingenuity is a out of this world." In EVERY sense.🤝
    Happy to see you covering this topic, I had written about the 'promotion' of Ingenuity in my blog only a week ago.

  • @jonskowitz
    @jonskowitz 3 роки тому +14

    It sounds like improving the thermal control on the flight motors would be a priority on the next iteration.
    Go Ingenuity go!

  • @mikecabral1579
    @mikecabral1579 3 роки тому +3

    The most informative video on this little marvel that I have seen. Thanks Scott. I really enjoyed this video and understand this much better.

  • @Sekir80
    @Sekir80 3 роки тому +6

    I'm so grateful for your video! Getting NASA's official videos can be confusing and you even included 3rd party analysis. I guess, NASA could learn some marketing from you.

  • @1138Skinner
    @1138Skinner 3 роки тому +45

    Scott: this is incredibly hard to hear but I will boost the audio a bit.
    Fortunate son plays.

  • @domoredujordan
    @domoredujordan 3 роки тому +13

    When these two can no longer stay with one another it's gonna be sad. Like when a kids movie slips in an unexpectedly sad scene.

  • @lucas29476
    @lucas29476 3 роки тому +28

    5:49 Do you mean one-third **gravity**, not atmospheric pressure? :D

  • @Kevin_Street
    @Kevin_Street 3 роки тому +5

    Thanks for another great video! I think we've all come to love that little helicopter. Go Ingenuity, go!
    On another note, what you said about the heat of the rotors being the chopper's main limiting factor is _really_ interesting. That might end up being the main limiting factor of any kind of high performance machinery on Mars. We never really think about the role Earth's atmosphere plays in dispelling heat because it's ubiquitous, but on Mars evaporative cooling won't work so well and we'll have to design around it.

    • @luxource
      @luxource 3 роки тому +2

      Evaporative cooling would work anyway, it's just that the passive cooling through thermal conduction + convection is much more limited when your atmosphere is very thin. So if you have a way to make some liquid (water?) on Mars, you could still use it for cooling. The day/night temperature variations would add some challenge though.

    • @Kevin_Street
      @Kevin_Street 3 роки тому

      Yes, you're right. I used the wrong term, it would actually be convective cooling that doesn't work so well on Mars.

  • @Sleigh
    @Sleigh 3 роки тому +7

    Thank you for everything Scott!!! 🖤🖤🖤

  • @johndone5906
    @johndone5906 3 роки тому +4

    So beautifully explained as always you really are the explainer in chief of space stuff.

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 3 роки тому +65

    Hey, Perseverance: _"GET TO DA CHOPPA!"_
    😊😊😊

    • @elektronikzmbrtlar1586
      @elektronikzmbrtlar1586 3 роки тому +6

      Fortunate son mars edition starts playing

    • @angusmacfrankenstein7227
      @angusmacfrankenstein7227 3 роки тому +1

      Watch your boots; Jesse Ventura looks like he's loaded with chew!

    • @dabigcheezprod
      @dabigcheezprod 3 роки тому +1

      @@elektronikzmbrtlar1586
      Some rovers are done, made to land on,
      Planets of red, brown, and black
      And when the sky crane lands Persey on his wheels,
      It flies out of view, lord.
      That ain’t him, that ain’t him,
      Ingie’s no ground rover, rover
      That ain’t him, or is it a her?
      Ingie’s a sky loving one...

    • @jannikheidemann3805
      @jannikheidemann3805 3 роки тому

      @@dabigcheezprod Now put that through a low-pass filter to simulate martian atmosphere and your done.

  • @etherialwell6959
    @etherialwell6959 3 роки тому +8

    1:25 I was instinctively like "oh damn its over, they lost the oilpan on the curb"
    Yeah I was ashamed when I realized my thoughts >_

    • @WildWestRaider
      @WildWestRaider 3 роки тому +3

      Lmao yeah the operators were having too much fun and bottomed her out on a pothole crater 😂

    • @slateslavens
      @slateslavens 3 роки тому +1

      @@WildWestRaider That's ok. There's probably a 4RotorParts Warehouse just over the next ridge. If not, I'm pretty sure they have guaranteed next day shipping...

  • @mrnickbig1
    @mrnickbig1 3 роки тому +10

    At 5:51, Scott clearly meant to say 1/3 EARTH GRAVITY, not 1/3 atmospheric pressure!

  • @tehllama42
    @tehllama42 3 роки тому +6

    @Scott Manley - As far as the IMU integration and bleedover, those small MEMS gyroscope units can be remarkably accurate in short timescales, and tolerate a lot of things, but the tech to update those using feature recognition is seriously impressive, and I can say firsthand that the dynamic control lag is a nontrivial problem here for terrestrial flight applications, but the accelerometer drift tendencies becoming a problem that quickly is why they considered that a bug (since the effective LIDAR range ends up being fairly limited).

  • @brianjaber3171
    @brianjaber3171 3 роки тому

    There is no denying it every episode is interesting and current and there’s something about the way you deliver information that makes it very present to watch. Thank you for all the great job you do.

  • @petervannostrand
    @petervannostrand 3 роки тому +4

    Great video! Ingenuity is an amazing piece of technology, what a hell of a time to be alive. I wonder how the traversal speeds of Ingenuity and Perseverance compare? With one being slow and steady and the other doing short fast hops I'd be curious to know if Ingenuity can keep pace with Perseverance once it starts really moving. It would be awesome if they could extend the mission duration by following the rover to maintain communications. Then we could test the durability of a vehicle like Ingenuity to things like dust and weather activity as well as gather more data to refine the autonomous flight algorithms. Also how metallic is the Martian regolith? EM and/or electrically conductive dust getting caked into motor windings and then repeatedly thermal cycled would be an interesting failure mode.

  • @blobman1238
    @blobman1238 3 роки тому +2

    Me : turns up my phone volume to the max to listen to ingenuity flying, and brings my phone up to my ear
    Scott Manley : "OK, SO SURE-"

  • @celivalg
    @celivalg 3 роки тому +8

    this is so funny in its own way, I kinda picture the researchers that are working on little chopper as litle kids that want to play longer with their toy x) And then one day you'll hear the "oh no, we broke it"

    • @tarmaque
      @tarmaque 3 роки тому +2

      Have you seen any video of them? There are some on UA-cam. They're all like a bunch of kids who found a random box of Lego. I haven't seen anyone so excited since the last time I saw a kid spill his Halloween candy on the floor to sort it out. Just ridiculously pleased with themselves and as hyperactive as a junior high school cheerleader.

    • @JohnDlugosz
      @JohnDlugosz 3 роки тому +2

      * "its own way" ("it's" means "it is")

    • @celivalg
      @celivalg 3 роки тому

      @@JohnDlugosz thank! English isn't my natal language, although I this mistake was more likely caused by the fact that I wasn't paying as much attention to what I wrote as I should have...

  • @per723
    @per723 3 роки тому +1

    What a perfect and detailed summary of our little chopper friend. Fly safe...

  • @Deamon93IT
    @Deamon93IT 3 роки тому +5

    From "get to the choppa" to "get to the rover" 🤣
    Still it's amazing how this little chopper is doing. Hopefully it'll be the progenitor of a long amd successful series of choppers, like the '90s rovers were for the current gen

  • @Cragsand
    @Cragsand 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for putting this little recap together!!!

  • @chriskibbe2901
    @chriskibbe2901 3 роки тому +25

    Wonder if the unstableness of flight number 6 helped clear dust / soil off the solar panel?

    • @michaelvangundy226
      @michaelvangundy226 3 роки тому +1

      I was wondering why they don't have a brush like a windshield wiper.

    • @maxcheung7608
      @maxcheung7608 3 роки тому +13

      @@michaelvangundy226 probably would scratch the solar cells, mars dust is pretty abrasive.

    • @KristofferEngstrom
      @KristofferEngstrom 3 роки тому +1

      Now when they know it works, maybe in the future put a small propeller above the solar panel to blow it clean ?

    • @alesksander
      @alesksander 3 роки тому

      @@KristofferEngstrom or put panels underneath blades itself :d

    • @mc_cpu
      @mc_cpu 3 роки тому

      An improvement would be to put the cells on the rotars so that the dust gets flung off each flight. The electrical connection would be the tricky bit perhaps.

  • @davidboyle1902
    @davidboyle1902 3 роки тому +1

    The longer they can keep the copter working, the more it will become obvious how valuable those 'eyes in the sky' are. What will be needed is obstacle avoidance software so it can land on short notice. Great video.

  • @KiithnarasAshaa
    @KiithnarasAshaa 3 роки тому +2

    6:38 I love how you zoom in and rotate on the rover like it's a shocking first image of some cryptid. Maybe that's my brain, though. I definitely heard dramatic spooky music over that pan-and-zoom.

    • @jannikheidemann3805
      @jannikheidemann3805 3 роки тому

      That's your brain. They do things like that sometimes. I have experienced smelling things online on a few occasions.

  • @arctic_haze
    @arctic_haze 3 роки тому +13

    The "electronic box" is the most clever usage of circuit boards I have ever seen.

    • @kushalamruthraj3626
      @kushalamruthraj3626 3 роки тому +6

      Not to discredit all the other brilliant scientists but the Indian scientist who was one of the main persons in charge might have given idea ( "might have" again this is a speculation ) and I say this because us Indians are very good at doing something called jugaad, which is like making one thing serve the purpose of more than its actual purpose and the circuit boards being used as the wall of the electronics box is a very good example of it , pls correct me if I'm wrong

    • @moosemaimer
      @moosemaimer 3 роки тому

      Looks like an LED array Techmoan did a video on.

    • @RedRocket4000
      @RedRocket4000 3 роки тому +1

      @@kushalamruthraj3626 Not the only place that culture exists but also existing near a top of the world science program certainly is a plus for India into getting good use of the concept.

    • @kushalamruthraj3626
      @kushalamruthraj3626 3 роки тому

      @@RedRocket4000 i agree 👍

  • @z-beeblebrox
    @z-beeblebrox 3 роки тому +1

    I look forward to seeing Ingenuity following Perseverance like a puppy for the rest of its mission

  • @elzar760
    @elzar760 3 роки тому +20

    Shouldn’t it be a RTM (Return to Mars) camera?

    • @666Tomato666
      @666Tomato666 3 роки тому +10

      It's RTE because it's the primary camera for making pretty PR pictures.

    • @TheAechBomb
      @TheAechBomb 3 роки тому +6

      nah, it returns pictures to earth

    • @agpytube
      @agpytube 3 роки тому +8

      The martians can go take their own photos, these pics are for us earthies

    • @elzar760
      @elzar760 3 роки тому

      @Un Cancer nommé Religion I know I know. You all want to steal my fun lol.

  • @matchesburn
    @matchesburn 3 роки тому +1

    It's frankly amazing that a helicopter whose blades spin multiple times faster than here on Earth and is literally a box made out of circuit boards folded up is operating on another planet with drastic temperature changes, increased radiation, dust everywhere, increased frictional heating from the engines... and is STILL operating successfully months later. I know it won't happen, but... If this little helicopter could become the flying version of Spirit and just keep chugging along longer than it has any reason to do so and keeps following Perseverance for years, I'm going to be giddy about it.

  • @wolfgangkranek376
    @wolfgangkranek376 3 роки тому +10

    "I've seen an UFO... no wait, an UAP!"
    Probably a Martian.

  • @kubaistube
    @kubaistube 3 роки тому +1

    Exactly what I wished you would publish: Thank you!

  • @sebidotorg
    @sebidotorg 3 роки тому +14

    5:49 You mean 1/3 G, not pressure, don’t you? Less gravity helps, less pressure really doesn’t.

    • @666Tomato666
      @666Tomato666 3 роки тому +3

      Given that the Mars' atmosphere pressure is about 0.6% that of Earth, yeah, pretty sure he meant gravity, not pressure.

    • @Vysair
      @Vysair 3 роки тому

      It helps but also made it harder since our technologies are made for Earth

  • @Marxon1134
    @Marxon1134 3 роки тому +1

    One experiment I'm really surprised they're not discussing right now: cooperative exploration. Think of those video games like Jak and Daxter Ratchet & Clank or Banjo Kazooie.
    The Copter is the ideal location and possibly terrain scout for the rover allowing researchers to get an overview of the areas near the rover, seeing points of interest and potential terrain hazards from a different angle. If they like what they see they can land the copter there then drive the rover to that position while the copter recharges for another scouting pass.

  • @Archonch
    @Archonch 3 роки тому +5

    I'm a bit sad that they called it the "Return to Earth" camera

  • @frankgulla2335
    @frankgulla2335 3 роки тому +1

    Nice summary, Scott. You are the Man(ly) in the world of space reporting.

  • @H3LLS4NG3L
    @H3LLS4NG3L 3 роки тому +6

    Perseverance team: "Get to the choppa!"
    Arnold: "You son of a bitch!" *bro hug*

  • @deltoid77-nick
    @deltoid77-nick 3 роки тому +1

    This might be confusing to people who don't understand what FPGAs are but it doesn't mean it's radiation-hardened it just means it's a field-programmable gate array meaning it's a reprogrammable silicon chip you can make it to anything(within the realm of integrated circuits) you want.
    That just means that you can upgrade the image recognition technology whilst it's already deployed.
    Maybe Scott Manley Confused the two but it may just be an FPGA that is radiation-hardened.

  • @festes81
    @festes81 3 роки тому +6

    Even playing the 4x speed part of it landing at .25 speed, it seems to land kinda hard.

    • @jannikheidemann3805
      @jannikheidemann3805 3 роки тому +4

      That is intentional and it's designed to do that. It's to avoid being in ground effect and kicked up dust for as short a time as possible. The dust is less of a problem than expected by the NASA engineers.

    • @IDoNotLikeHandlesOnYT
      @IDoNotLikeHandlesOnYT 3 роки тому +1

      Good thing they put springs on the legs then.

  • @gvii
    @gvii 3 роки тому +1

    Before the drone craze, almost all but the cheapo R/C rotorcraft had swashplate rotorheads. They are far more efficient than fixed pitch rotors, and you needed all the efficiency you could get back when all you had were brushed motors and fairly low capacity NiCad/NiMH battery packs. Considering the really thin atmosphere and having nothing other than an itty bitty solar panel to recharge the packs from, it's not surprising they are using swashplates on their drone.

  • @vladimirkucak4235
    @vladimirkucak4235 3 роки тому +21

    Why did they plan on Perserverance leaving Ingenuity? Ingenuity can't fly often enough to keep up with the speed of the rover or is it something else?

    • @igornoga5362
      @igornoga5362 3 роки тому +13

      They weren't sure how Ingenuity would perform. If it turned out it can't keep up they planned to leave it behind as Perserverance has its own mission goals it needs to achieve.

    • @lucky-segfault
      @lucky-segfault 3 роки тому +4

      I wonder if lil choppa could land on top of Perserverance so keeping up wouldn't be an issue?

    • @SimonWoodburyForget
      @SimonWoodburyForget 3 роки тому +9

      There's not much Ingenuity _can do_ being a little drone that essentially was purely built to take pictures. It's not useless but it's not extremely useful.

    • @robertmiller9735
      @robertmiller9735 3 роки тому +8

      Considering the rover is going to take a decade to go a few kilometers, I doubt that's the issue. I can think of three possibilities: making sure there's no possibility it might crash on the rover, staying over less interesting flat landable ground, or keeping up the appearance that they're not going to use Ingenuity until it breaks.

    • @JohnDlugosz
      @JohnDlugosz 3 роки тому

      @@igornoga5362 * its (not "it is" contracted)

  • @dianehansen5552
    @dianehansen5552 3 роки тому +1

    Thoroughly professional video. Always, well done.

  • @markhorton3994
    @markhorton3994 3 роки тому +22

    Could Ingenuity become a scout for Perseverance. Checking possible routes beyond Perseverance's camera range?

    • @gsvick
      @gsvick 3 роки тому +9

      I believe that is one of the intended uses of future Mars helicopters, but it wasn't planned that Ingenuity would fill this role.

    • @nathanlewis42
      @nathanlewis42 3 роки тому +1

      I thought that was the plan.

    • @markhorton3994
      @markhorton3994 3 роки тому +5

      @@nathanlewis42 Ingenuity is a proof of concept. There was no plan for after it did that, which it has.

    • @Archgeek0
      @Archgeek0 3 роки тому +3

      @@gsvick 'Seems like there's not a lot stopping it from taking on the role anyway.

    • @markhorton3994
      @markhorton3994 3 роки тому +3

      @@Archgeek0 They will see what can be achieved. They are now sailing in uncharted waters, so to speak.

  • @alanmarston8612
    @alanmarston8612 3 роки тому

    Scott, Thank you for the no BS run. So many of the others work "Soooo" hard to add drama. Keep at being real.

  • @klobiforpresident2254
    @klobiforpresident2254 3 роки тому +14

    After the diagrams at 02:50 have shown a part called "Dust Boot" I must now rewatched the homoerotic masterpiece by Hans Gretel.

    • @tarmaque
      @tarmaque 3 роки тому +1

      What you did there, we saw it. The assassin has been dispatched.

  • @paultrappiel9943
    @paultrappiel9943 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks Scott, awesome video as usual

  • @SurakIII
    @SurakIII 3 роки тому +4

    I’m sure you know this but 1/3 Earth g and 1/100th Earth atm.

  • @alexanderkrenik8032
    @alexanderkrenik8032 3 роки тому +1

    Wouldn't it be great to let Ingenuity to have a look into one of the caves found on Mars in the past. Obviously not to find some green little aliens, but to see if such a cave could be used as a natural shield from space radiation in one of future manned missions to Mars. Better to camp in a cave than under open Marsian sky or not?
    Anyway, as usual great video Scott! I like how you found a way to visualize the wake from the rotor blades acting on the surface dust!
    Greetings from Bavaria, Germany

  • @summanus3696
    @summanus3696 3 роки тому +5

    We need a Drone Swarm
    Mars Mission!

    • @lick816
      @lick816 3 роки тому

      Bezos is already salivating at the idea

  • @markusrobinson3858
    @markusrobinson3858 3 роки тому

    superb video Scott; comprehensively covering what the helicopter is doing with how it does it, and what went wrong with flight six. Thank you!

  • @martinbaker613
    @martinbaker613 3 роки тому +7

    aaawww.... they're Mars buddies 😏

  • @yb5515
    @yb5515 3 роки тому +2

    Those aren't dust devils, they're Martians out for a stroll.

  • @tarassu
    @tarassu 3 роки тому +4

    Well the "fly safe" is really "on it" nowadays.

  • @JediBuddhist
    @JediBuddhist 3 роки тому

    You told me More about the Copter in the 1st 5min of this Video than the NASA Team has in about 30 hours of live feed, interviews and promo. U D'Man. 🙏 Thank You Scott.

  • @nyeleskettes
    @nyeleskettes 3 роки тому +6

    Mission was always to achieve 5-6 flight but once it succeeds, why couldn't they go ahead and follow perseverance from a safe distance?
    the rover could locate good helipads and the helicopter could just fly in star formation while the rover is around?

    • @TheEvilmooseofdoom
      @TheEvilmooseofdoom 3 роки тому +1

      That is the plan. The prime mission is completed now for the secondary.

    • @RedRocket4000
      @RedRocket4000 3 роки тому

      @@TheEvilmooseofdoom They planing on having the helicopter actually scout routes for the rover if possible. The actual job of a future helicopter I assume for a future rover.

  • @luciddaze248
    @luciddaze248 3 роки тому +1

    I love how the shadow looks like its swimming along the surface!

  • @sciencewolf7775
    @sciencewolf7775 3 роки тому +3

    Is Ingenuity gonna evolve into a Mars Apache Helicopter

  • @leeterthanyou
    @leeterthanyou 3 роки тому +2

    13:00 turns out, the rated RF patterns are much stronger on Mars where there aren't any pesky trees to get in the way (statistically)

  • @DigitalNomadOnFIRE
    @DigitalNomadOnFIRE 3 роки тому +11

    Imagine if it falls over after landing, oopsie Game Over.

    • @Automatic-Diaphragm
      @Automatic-Diaphragm 3 роки тому

      Why? They can just reverse thrust it back onto legs

    • @macer3985
      @macer3985 3 роки тому +3

      @@Automatic-Diaphragm that would never work

    • @nNxiNgr
      @nNxiNgr 3 роки тому +1

      Papa Perserverance has to come to get it up right again.

    • @luciddreams1623
      @luciddreams1623 3 роки тому

      The could use perseverance to upright it. Just saying

    • @macer3985
      @macer3985 3 роки тому +2

      @@nNxiNgr Perserverance has no way to grapple to Ingenuity

  • @sparkyprojects
    @sparkyprojects 3 роки тому +1

    Zigbee is also used on smart meters, in my case it's the comms between gas and electric meter and to the remote display, though the electric meter communicates via the mobile network to the utility company

  • @johannestetzelivonrosador7317
    @johannestetzelivonrosador7317 3 роки тому +7

    21 Views 39 likes: UA-cam's finest

  • @michaelj3971
    @michaelj3971 3 роки тому

    You have the absolute best information and analysis of Ingenuity. Period. Thank you!

  • @RogerM88
    @RogerM88 3 роки тому +6

    Having a pad on a rover so the drone could land and recharged it, would make way more sense in a longer mission.

    • @rickrickston3202
      @rickrickston3202 3 роки тому +9

      Might not be a good idea to have high spinning rotor blades next to fragile, expensive science equipment several hundred million kilometers away though...
      you'd also have to be a lot more precise with landing the helicopter

    • @Entreprenoob
      @Entreprenoob 3 роки тому

      I think maybe they are concerned with botching any one of those multiple landings over a longer mission that would damage the rover itself

    • @RogerM88
      @RogerM88 3 роки тому

      @@rickrickston3202 could be a rover only dedicated to recharge the drone, and sent data to the satellite in orbit.

    • @Imbeachedwhale
      @Imbeachedwhale 3 роки тому +1

      If we want a long-term helicopter to work with a rover, the two need to be fairly independent and pose little risk to the other. Landing in the rover is just asking for trouble if your control system has even the slightest error. This also reduces the need for the two to connect, as there are few times where that would be necessary. The only real one I can think of is a dust storm that can prevent the helicopter from getting enough of a charge.
      It would be better to have a belly connection as tested here for the drop, albeit one that could be reused. In this case, the only danger is blocking the solar panels and draining the battery before the hookup is made. For the rover to continue to move, it would need to pick up the helicopter and raise it far enough above the ground to not cause damage, which can impose limitations on the helicopter landing gear (the ability to stow and pop out increases complexity compared to a one-and-done system) and on the belly design of the rover (such as the sample caching system on Perseverance).
      Another is a hookup by the manipulator arm to place the helicopter on the rover, which avoids the low power issue but requires dedicating a place on the arm for the attachment. It would also require reasonably clear space on the rover deck, but if it’s being controlled by a manipulator arm you only really need clearance for the landing gear and charging port.
      In any case, the charging port design would have to be secure against dust ingress on rover and helicopter. That isn’t a simple task for a long-term system that must operate for years with no humans on hand to clean it out.
      These can all be solved and options evaluated on earth to find the best mix of systems for a future mission. Ingenuity has proven joint operations are possible and will show the benefits a helicopter can provide over the coming weeks and months, and for missions still early enough in development to incorporate a helicopter all practical avenues to ensure interoperability must be explored.

    • @rickrickston3202
      @rickrickston3202 3 роки тому

      One other consideration is that if the helicopter is dependent on a rover for power, it's travel speed is ultimately limited by the rover speed, which limits the usefulness since a main advantage of a helicopter is that it can fly far and fast

  • @Hugo-dm1dj
    @Hugo-dm1dj 3 роки тому +1

    Great video Scott! Haven’t hear allot about the helicopter but u cleared stuff up a bit

  • @cacogenicist
    @cacogenicist 3 роки тому +3

    Hard to dump waste heat on Mars, soooo easy on Titan. That's where the solar system AI gods will live. :-)

  • @alexandercarder2281
    @alexandercarder2281 3 роки тому +1

    I love that the rover has a little companion 🥰🤗 I hope they can be together till the very end. ☺️

  • @FJTx100
    @FJTx100 3 роки тому +9

    Greenland look pretty baron in the springtime.

    • @Jimbojo
      @Jimbojo 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah. And it's weird how the topology exactly matches Mars but no where in actual Greenland. Almost like they actually did what they said they'd done...

    • @Jimbojo
      @Jimbojo 3 роки тому

      @@FJTx100 pretty ironic you should say that...

    • @FredPlanatia
      @FredPlanatia 3 роки тому +1

      The Baron of Mars would like to have a word with you. He thinks he's much prettier than the Baron of Greenland.

  • @cut--
    @cut-- 3 роки тому +1

    variable lag in a game.. what a perfect analogy !

  • @foxtrotunit1269
    @foxtrotunit1269 3 роки тому +1

    Bit off topic if you forgive me, but this idea just came to me:
    6:41 a 12 Megapixel camera, captures a large SUV-sized object, only maybe 50 meters away or so - and it's already un-recognizable unless you know it's a Rover, and it's on Mars.
    And here we have people complaining "Why don't we have 4K video of all those *2 000-meter-distant* and *ultra-fast* UFO's, doesn't our military have better cameras in 2021???" haha

  • @owenclark7210
    @owenclark7210 3 роки тому

    Some small commercial co-axial RC helicopters, like the E-Flite Blade CX-2 use a proper Bell-Hiller rotorhead for controlling the lower rotor blade pitch and yaw for directional control. The upper blade remains fixed and provides rotational stability for the helicopter. Much easier to learn to fly an RC helicopter with one of these rather than a standard top-and-tail rotor setup