I just ran across this video, & I have to give you props in your scientific & mechanical explanation of the assets, blade grinds & thickness of the three knives. Very factual & understandable talk.
Personally, I think the Bushcraft Black is much more comfortable in hand. I absolutely love the handle, enough that I bought a 2nd one. I don't mind the Garberg, it's a good knife, and the full tang might give a little more feeling of security, but the black is just more comfortable. It just shows how subjective things like ergonomics can be. What is perfect to one will suck to another. I did modify the edge on both my Garberg and Black. I turned the microbevel into a convex. It still adds the extra stability to the edge, but it cuts much better imo. Then again, I'm a fan of convexed edges, so others may not agree. They do take a little getting used to.
Totally agree. I just received my Mora Bushcraft in stainless, and I'm surprised too find out I prefer my garberg after a year or more of using it. Love it.
So far, the only thing I still find interesting about the Garberg is the 14c28n steel. I have both the Robust and the Outdoor 2000 and have yet to find any fault with either, except the handles being a little small for my XL hands. Your review covers aspects of the knife that no one else has. Thank you.
Thank you. The Garberg's handle is above the Robusts and in some points also better than the Outdoor 2000's. As for the 14C28N....so problems with it so far...not a single chip or roll..but then again the edge angle it steep...I will know more after I modify it. But that will take some time since I want to do a more than decent job.
Danke Stephan, Freut mich das dir meine Videos spass machen....Habe mir die letzten Tage ein Swiza genommen und mir wieder dein Video angeschaut. Und mach dir nichts vor, 5M Klicks ist schon sehr viel! Glueckwunsch! Du hast die auch verdient! LG Denis
Multumesc. E un cutit bun. Nu stiu cum va fi dupa ce ii modific unghiul de taiere... trebuie sa iti dau dreptate: e cam scump! Eu nu mi l-as cumpara...mai degraba Eldris. E mic, da...dar il duc cam peste tot si chiar imi palce sa tai chestii cu el...mai mult pe zi ce trece.
I would argue that people are often upset about the price because it is a mora, but the falkniven line is more $ and very similar. Stainless blade, plastic handle, and plastic in sheath. I like the mora sheath better
so far, the only aspect that I like more about the Garberg than the Robust is the handle. I thought about a comparison between the Garberg and the F1 and my Enzo Trapper....that will ahve to come later, after I modify the edge angle of the Garberg. So far, compared with the F1, the Garberg has a fuller handle and it does not chip. The F1's I had or sharpened all chipped no matter at what edge angle I sharpened them. |For the F1 I would choose the leather sheath..a friend of mine just gave me his zytel sheath and told me he has no use for it. He went hunting, it rained and as it was really cold. over the next few hours the knife froze inside the sheath so he decided to only use the leather sheath from now on
It hasn't happened yet, but I do worry about the rubbery handled Moras not handling the summer sun and heat as well. So that's a good positive point for the Garberg's handle. Price point aside, sounds like the Garberg would fit into a rotation of knives really nice. Maybe paired with a 510 or a VSA trekker for example? Because lets be honest, people like you (and me and your followers) don't go out in the woods to play around with just one knife.. :-) Always a pleasure listening to you my friend!
That is true...we always carry a little(lot) more than we need. The rubber handle never gave me any problems. Left them in the sun a whole day...maybe if you would do that day after day after day, the rubber might dry up and crack...that is an idea...and I think I have just the knife to do that with/to :))
I was thinking about the Garberg a lot as it is like the flagship of the "new school" Moras. I never liked the Bushcraft black as it really is no improvement to the traditional Moras at all, its just more expensive and... black.... The Garberg is a fulltang Mora which at first sounded to me like a great idea and seemed like an improvement. But if you consider the fact that you get 6 Companions hd/robusts or 4 Mora 2000 or TEN 510 for one Garberg and given the fact that i never ever had one of the non fulltang Moras fail on me i cant justify buying a Garberg. And i have a hard time seeing its real purpose. A 8€ 510 will outcarve it. A robust or companion will do at least as good in camp and bushcraft tasks and if you want a survival kind of blade i would go for the Junglas and BK9 calibers. Your video helped a lot, very thoughtful as always and we know you know what you are talking about when you are talking Moras!
Thank you! I am glad you liked the video. I also could not justify it, not for the price. As for the Bushcraft Black...it is a good knife but once again...the Robust does the same things that the BB does...and as you also said, the 510 outcarves it anyday. I guess that with this new line Mora is trying to do something. And I am not one to complain. But I will stick to what works and when prices drop a bit...maybe I will also get on board and get the newer models. I only fear that they will keep "improving" and forget about the old models that really worked. Like the old 510 with a 2,5 mm thick spine... I wish started making that one again...
+SpartanJohns they want their piece of the outdoor/bushcraft cake i guess. they are well known and have a good reputation, you cant really blame them for making money with the reputation and brand they built. I just also hope they keep the models on which their brand and reputation was built. And while i dont care a lot about the new models except for the awesome Eldris i wish they would stick to their traditional designs. The new robust is imho a step backwards for example. We will see what happens, Mora has always been flexible in regards of reviving old models or doing custom models for special purposes, customer requests or certain shops etc. etc. so i am pretty positive we wont run out of great and affordable Moras.
I have a new 546. It is a good knife but it is not as comfortable as the old 546/511...and by far not as easy to adapt... I thought about the new Robust but I passed...since I really do not think that it will be very comfortable... Same here: hoping that they will still produce the old designs which are inexpensive and great working knives
The heat-treatment on the Bushcraft Black is better than the robust. You will have to re-profile the scandi grind on the BB to make it more acute, but once you do, it slices, carves and cuts effortlessly. The companion will still serve 99% of your needs and remains their best knife to date.
The Bushcraft black has the same carbon steel all the carbon moras have,so I guess it has the same heat treatment.Are you sure it has a different heatreatment? Thanks in andvance for the info.
I own both the stainless and carbon versions of this knife. Over time by resharpening both blades, whether in the field or at home, the micro bevels have disappeared. To be honest I haven't noticed a difference in performance in either knife, in fact I prefer it this way. Of course the stainless version is tougher than the carbon blade and requires less maintenance, but the zero degree scandi grind achieved through regular touchups is amazing. I know it's a personal preference, but I think most would prefer it this way!
i have heard form more people that the later SS versions of the Garberg are better. In itself it is a good knife....i would opt for the carbon steel version and nowadays....maybe I would make it a "scandi-vex" instead of a zero scandi....not sure...
Another fantastic video Denis. So out of all the fixed blades and folders you tried out and reviewed, which one fixed blade and which one folder would you keep out of all of them, to only use from now on? Thankyou Phil.
Hi Phil. Sorry for the late reply. out of all my knives....1 and 1? tough! I found my Esee 6 to be the most useful. I can use it for splitting wood, chopping, cutting food....I look at fixblades the way some people look at folders: how useful is it? ESEE 6, imo, best suited for all around tasks.... Folders....here's the pickle.... i think, because they are build so well, i would chose a Cold Steel. Probably my Recon 1 in CTS XHP. because it is sturdy, good steel(softer than Spyderco's but still good) and has enough blade for just about anything you can/want to do with a folder.
I think that the 510 is the best allaround knife they make price/performance wise. The Bushcraft Black is definitely a good model. I much prefer it to the Garberg
Thanks for the review, came faster than I expected. And I appreciate that you touched the point if the sharp pommel would have any advantage. Now I see that probably in most tasks the spine will be better or as good. Not a bad Knive, the Garberg it seems. But if I had to choose in that price range I think I´d spent a few Euros more and get the Enzo Trapper instead. In N690 thats a great knive, only the handle seems to be maybe a little bit better (or at least safer) on the Garberg.
I decided that I will test it in the "long run" with this secondary bevel to see how it does, then remove it and see how it holds a smaller edge angle...but first I wanted to see how it compares to what I hear on youtube... As for the Trapper....it would definitely be a better choice than the Garberg...as you said..the handle might be better on this one...as for the steel, I am not familiar with Enzo's N690 but their D2 and O1 are very wel heat treated. I expect them to do an excellent job on N690 as well....
Hi Denis, I own a Garberg (as I mentioned before). Watching your thoughts here (at the rounded off exposed tang bit). I was wondering, would the 90° sharpened exposed tang not be usefull in carving out the spoon part of a wooden spoon? I never tried it, but I was just wondering. FYI, I havent bought the Cold Steel 4Max Scout nor the Voyager yet, II'm still in the balance between want, need, my usage and strengths of both knives. Last motorcycle camping trip we did, my brother brought his Skrama 200 and I used my Garberg. I still want a folding chopper/batoner though, just havent decided which one yet. Kind regards, Alain
Hi Alain, You mean use it as Felix showed on the Venture? I never tried it with the Garberg but i did try it with the Venture. It is doable but you need a lot of patience and some practice. I think there are better ways of carving the bowl of a spoon. Felix showed a cool way a few months ago. ua-cam.com/video/U53au1PyR6c/v-deo.htmlsi=lGswmVD-r7x9lldV I think this way is much more practical. Depending on the wood you can do it in 5 minutes. Regarding the 1 knife for camping: sure a folder like the 4maxscout or the voyager are nice to try out and play with. And as before, i could not say which one would be better. If you still intend to carry the Garberg then maybe the Voyager would be better as it offers the larger blade. But if you say: i want something to replace the Garberg…the 4 max scout with an angle change might be the better option. Skrama’s are nice. Never had one but a friend has one and i held it. Seems to be that “one tool” option. That and a small victorinox folder…what morw do you need? But yeah..a chopping folder… Well…i do hope you find the right combination for you. Watch Felix’s video! You might like that method. I did!
I paid $69.99 with free shipping for my Garberg Stainless with the Multi Mount. For what I received, I believe it was a good deal. I also carry the Companion HD Carbon with a 90° spine. A Buck 119 and 110 along with the Original Leatherman Multitool, which is over 20yrs old and still going strong. And my secret weapon is a old Camillus 3 blade multi knife with straight, serrated and saw blades. All razor sharp and all under $100. Except the Camillus which is over 20yrs old now and I get offers on it all the time. Go figure. I have more expensive knives, I grew up with the Bucks here in the NE USA. Fly fishing and camping. Turkey and Deer. Knives are a subjective passion, just like women I suppose, it's a smorgasbord out there! Enjoy! 😊 PS. Like my Pop used to say, "If you need an axe, use an axe, if you need a saw, use a saw. You can play games later."
I bought a knife from the blade exchange on the blade forum, guy was also selling a garberg, he offered it cheap($50 USD) and it shipped free with the other knife. I was shocked how well I liked it. I bought another and am looking for a couple more at $50 to put into cooking kits with gassifier stoves. I like the garberg way more than a bushcraft black, and it feels 4x the knife as a bushlore. BUT I probably would not buy garbergs are full retail(I'm to cheap), thank you Mora for the Garberg!!!!! The kids we get to hang with, they still get companion HD's, lol(I think they loose more than they break). When I need to clean a fish, I still like a SS companion.
i had the same aha moment about the edge pushing the shavings after i tried the buck packlite max small knife,its a razorblade more or less,it cuts straight wood curls they refuse so curl since there is no metal to bend it,very strange experience,i ended up tilting the blade to finally get some curls
Great point! My personal opinion is that the normal Moras are incredibly strong from what they are and some how they can take a larger knifes abuse, and they are very inexpensive. The Garberg is around 80 dollars as of this comment, the upgraded steel and being full tang is going to be more money, maybe they could have sold it for less, but at the same time I think the Garberg is an amazing knife for the money compared to other knives (that are non moras) but because of the other moras perform so well I think it makes the Garberg seem less impressive........ I think they can improve the plastic shealth of the Garberg still for that money, and all the Mora sheaths
Excellent review. Really, a good job reviewing the comparison between these knives. I just got the garberg. $62.00 on Amazon. Not using it yet and holding in my hand I can agree with your conclusions. I probably wouldn't of purchased it if I saw your review first. Oh well, you can never have to many knives. Subbed!
it is not a bad knife. and 62$ is a good enough price for it. All I will do is modify the edge angle in the near future, but first I will probably test it against a few other knives Thanks
What would you guys recommend for a long term bug out/wilderness survival small/bushcraft knife to add to my 3 blade combo, currently consisting of a condor bushcraft parang and probably a BK7 for my medium length knife. I was ready to go with the stainless garberg, but now not so sure after seeing this video. Performance and longevity will be more important than price point.
Thank you for giving some insight through this video. The Garberg was just $25 for 4 days on Amazon. I ordered it yesterday. I bought the Terava Jääkäripuukko 140 a few weeks back instead of the Garberg, but I decided to go for the $25 Garberg too. Not sure what I feel about that decision yet, as I don’t want to hoard knives, but I’ll see what It’s like when I get it. From what I hear about the knife $25 seems like a steal, but then again, why steal something I might not need? We’ll see. Again, thanks!
i would say that for 25$ it is a good buy. 3.2 mm thick will get a lot of things done. A "better than average" knife. Mine was one of the first. It might have received a faulty HT.... So you might actually like your garberg even if you reduce the edge angle. And if you keep the innitial edge angle i do not think you will have any problems with it in any situation
hey Spartan, du kannst beim Garberg die Sekundärschneide ja auch wegschleifen :)?Hab ich das richtig verstanden, dass du das Robust bzw heavy Duty am ehesten oder Companion dann nehmen würdest? Das Garberg dann garnicht? und das Black Bushcraft auch nicht? Warum dann die beiden eher nicht? Vorteil beim Bushcraft-kein Rosten im Vergleich zum Robust
ja, weiss ich natuerlich. es waehre trotzdem gut wenn Mora von anfang an keine sekundaere schneide drauf tun wuerde. weniger arbeit fuer bushcrafter Ja, das Robust steht fuer mich an Erster Stelle, Danach das Bushcraft Black und danach das Garberg. Preis/Leistung Das Robust kriegst du fuer 15 Euro.....das BB fuer 35-50 Euro...und das Garberg fuer viel mehr. Das Robust kann alles machen was das Garberg machen kann... und fuer den preis eines Garbeg kriegst du 6-7 Robust. Um Rostende Klingen mache ich mir keine Sorgen. Wenn du sie trocken haellst....rosten sie nicht so schnell. Mein Robust hatte nie Rost....
Hi, I wanted to know from your experience whether this 14C28N steel is really great as it is said for knives to use in nature? Is better than 440C or VG10? Let me know what you think, a greetings Michele
Say Heah Denis, I have a few Mora's, I have a vintage Frost Clipper, a newer 510 which I neck carry with alot of my Yrio's. I also have what I think is a awesome Lite Trio I like using when I do a afternoon delight coffee in the bush and a cigar. I put together a Mora 2000, a Mora Hatchet and a Bacho Laplander, Thos the Mora 2000 became one of my Fav's so I'm not in that big of a rush to get the Kansbol and the Eldris which eventually I will also get the Garberg, But instead I got the Forest Exclusive #277 which look's like a Classic #1 but streamed lined and hand made with a full sticktang with brass hardware and a hardwood handle with a laminated blade. It's easy to say it's one of my Fav. carver's. Everytime I think I'm getting a Garberg, I get side tracked, Recently I was side tracked and I got the Steel Will Druid 240. that led to get the Druid 230 which will make a nice mild weather set, and in wet weather too. Then as much as I love my 3V Skookum Bush Tool, I got the Fallkniven H-1 to team up with my A-1 for wet and snowy condition's. The H-1 is similar to my S. B. T. Oh, I also got y Fox Bushcraft Jungle Parang which I always wanted. But because I like large knives, I got the Fox Hitam Golok instead which I teamed up with the Steel Will Darkangel a lovely piece of kit, Both ate made in Italy and out of the Bohler N690Co. Stainless Steel, nice. So you see, The Garberg is still on my wanna, wanna list, and this helped. But I might go with a Cold Steel Master Hunyer in 3V and a Becker BK-21. Although I did buy the Limited Edition even though I already had the BK-4 and the BK-5, and I almost missed out getting the Bundok BK-20 because I almost waited for the price to go down, as it was I bought the last Limited Edition and I concider myself very lucky I bought the Bundok. It's always nice to see you, Jib we'll done. Oh, I did post a few of my knives on Google Plus, Your welcome to look. ,, .
The Garberg is definitely "something else" ...just not too sure about the price...If you can get one for 50$ I would say it is worth the money...Always liked the way that the H1 and the SBT looked...considering having a knifemaker make me one...in the distant future...
I talked to Rod Garcia, We talked about how he got the idea for the Skookum, He told me he took some classes from Mors Kochanski, Rod is an avide Moose Hunter, and one day he asked Mors what type of knife he considered best. Mors at that time used a Mora Classic #1, so Mors took his out and said something like this, So Rod and Mors Book created the S. B. T., So when he went back he left his creation on a table, It caught Mors eye, and Mors said who made this, and the rest is history, Heah, It was nice, We got to do this again
Fjallraven Barents. I have been wearing this pants for outdoor activities for over 3 years now. I have a video about them. If you are interested just look it up on my channel
The sharpened pommel is fantastic for taking birch bark off of trees, but if you don’t have birch trees where you live or don’t take bark off of trees then a dull pommel is probably better
I have a thought/question about the F1/Garberg comparison. I really like the concept of these knives (slim design, very compact plastic sheaths so no problems with water or cold and they really don't stand out on the belt, stainless = requiring very little care, compact size and synthetic handle = resistent to a lot of things). The F1 has been on my list for a long time and I got the Garberg last summer. Now my question: do you think that the F1 would be better as an alround utility/survival knife? Or how would you mod the Garbergs edge to be more robust to use it for such utility tasks. I really like the over all concept of these knives but I just would prefer one which had a more robust edge on it. Or is there a different knife that would be even better suited?
I think that the Garberg would be a more capable knife for all around tasks. The F1 is a good knife for sure...but the garberg is a bit more comfortable. I would remove the secondary bevel, sharpen it to a "zero scandi" and play around with how steep I would have to put the micro bevel on. As it comes I think that the Garberg's ede is very stable...as it is very thick. that bothers me..not the stable part, but the "thick" part. A knife better suited for all around activities...The ESEE 4(carbon steel) is a favorite of mine. For bushcrafting purposes...if you already got the Garberg, i would say: stick to it! test it! see if you need more from it... Unfortunately for the Garberg: I think that there is not a single task that the 80$ Garberg can perform which the 15$ Robust could not do just as well...
+SpartanJohns Thanks a bunch for your input! Knowing your channel I knew the ESEE 4 would come up. But what I love about my ESEE 6 I dislike about the 4 (I prefer stainless on sub 5 inch knives, also no coating for me and I dislike the choil on knives of smaller size as well, also I prefer narrower blades like the Garberg over wide blades like the ESEE 4, also I prefer the rather low profile low riding sheaths on the F1/Garberg over the high riding wide sheath on the ESEE 4). As for the Robust vs Garberg: if it is just a knife to use in the backcountry for crafting tasks or similar, the Robust can do everything the Garberg can at least as well. But honestly, when it comes to a knife you have on your belt most of the time in most conditions for most tasks ( that is how I view the Garberg, as a general use knife always on hand, because of the low profile sheath, the durable materials etc) I am more than willing to pay a premium for the better materials and full tang.
In this case I would suggest you find a good knifemaker and get a custom knife. I like the F1, but I do not see it as a camp knife. The handle is too thin. The Garberg is better when it comes to comfort in hand. I wanted a knife that had a handle that felt good in my hand an aprox 4 inch blade out of well heat treated D2. So I looked around and found the BRKT Aurora. I drew it, modified it a bit and had a knifemaker make me a blade. Then I aked a friend of mine to make a handle to my liking. You can see that knife on my channel "My Hunting Knife/Fire in wet conditions...part 1 and 2" If you are willing to pay more for a knife as you want it...this would be the way to go
SpartanJohns Thanks! Yes, a custom would be the way to go but I don't think it's easy to get an overmolded handle on a custom? So I think I'll just work on the edge angle on my Garberg and add a custom security strap to the sheath (similar to the one on the F1 Zytel sheath, maybe I can make on myself with a rivet, a piece of webbing and a button) Thanks again for your input!
Hey Denis, Great video. Thanks for doing these reviews. I'm sure I'm not the only one that appreciates your time and money spent just so we can get a decent look at a knife or tool we might be interested in. Just out of curiosity, how's that replacement GB hatchet doing? Any issues?
Thanks! I appreciate that...I really get a kick out of it, when someone tells me that they found my videos useful and that they bought a knife because of my reviews and that they are not dissapointed by it at all. About the GB replacement. The grind is thinner with the new one which made it easier to work with. I still like the Wildlife Hatchet model. It comes out very often. I will have to give it a "once over" linseed oil and sharpening...so far it has chopped a few difficult logs, helped me out with some light carving...but it has not gone thru the things I put the other one thru...However I like the thinner grind. I suspect that my old one was an exception...lopsided with a thick grind... I have been looking at Fiskars lately, simply because I want to try something new...but the Wildlife Hatchet still comes out with me every time...
Good video. I got my Garberg for 53 USD, which I think is great. Other than some pocket knives, it's the most I've spent on a knife. That being said, how do you compare this to higher end stainless steel knives? Is it worth looking at a Fallkniven if I already have the Garberg?
53 $ is a good price. I think you got a good deal. The F1 is a different style of knife. The Garberg's handle is fuller. If you have the garberg I would not recommend the F1. I like my F1. It is a good knife. But i feel like the Garberg can do most tasks that the F1 can do. Not sure about the steel. I have a Real Steel with 14C28N. So far no problems with that...the arberg gave me no isssues..but the edge anlge is much greater with it. I will modify the edge angle and then have more info on that...but that will be a bit later.
SpartanJohns Yeah, I didn't see a real reason to get the F1. I have always kind of wanted one, but can't justify the price tag. Even more so now that I have the Garberg. Are you going to take off the secondary bevel? I got the leather sheath. The inside looks like it's not doing so hot, so I might have to contact Mora about either getting it replaced or getting the plastic sheath.
you could probably get a second hand F1 which you might get for a good price. It is a nice knife. I would think of it primarily as a hunting/edc knife(if you can carry it). It does a good job and the VG10, although it chips is easy to keep sharp(microchips included) I like the look of the leather sheath. I like how practical the plastic sheath is. No real way to damage it while sheathing the knife.I would like more retention from the plastich sheath because when I carry it upside down the strap does move to the side very easily.. So far I am happy with the multimount. Maybe if you would hotwax the sheath or use some leather hardener it would guide the knife better when going in the sheath keeping it from cutting it. I would e curious about what Mora tells you about the sheath!
I'll have to look up how to do that. I'm fairly new to fixed blades so I don't have any experience with leather sheaths. I would definitely EDC a fixed blade if work permitted it. As it stands, I'm not really allowed to have a weapon at work. I don't think any of my co workers would care, but the second a customer feels threatened by a three inch knife I might as well drop off my vehicle and go home. Suspension without pay. I've been thinking about getting another neck knife since I don't care for the Izula. I just hate spending money on things I don't end up using.
I think that, unless you live/work in an extremely cold environment, kydex is the best choice. for a sheath...Leather looks better but Kydex is more practical. I understand...I have the same issues in carrying a knife. That is one reason why I do not carry a fixed blade. I also had the Izula and carried it as a neck knife for about a year...liked it but ended up not using it as much. small knives are ok...I just prefer folders to small fixed blades when it comes to edc. imo so far, best option for a folding edc is still Victorinox. Everybody knows them, they come in bright colors...red, blue...so people don't feel as threatened by them...
Hi, I'm looking for a compact, sturdy and reliable knife to take a long trip in the wild, I need that I can count on my knife without being afraid that you will abandon me or break during use, according to you this knife can be a good one choice for what i am looking for? let me know your opinion, thanks Michele.
Any knife can do that. And any knife can fail. My suggestion is: find a knife you find visually pleasing and comfortable to use. Then start testing it. Test it harder than you intent on ever using it. If it does not fail then you got a knife you can rely on. I did this with the ESEE 4 and the Mora Robust. I tried to break them batoning wood. That is really the only way to have a knife you can rely on. Any knife blade can fail if the heat treatment is not done right or the material is faulty.... Testing your gear in a controlled environment is the best way start trusting and know it and its limitations
Check out the Mora Companion. It's a great knife and Amazon has them for less than $15. I have used mine hard for 3 years with no complaints and it is lite weight for backpacking.
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Great review. So the question is, in your opinion, is it worth the whole lot more of money than the Robust, or the Bushcraft?I agree with you, I feel it is overpriced. I can see $50, may be $60 tops, but $80 is just too much. I think they are trying to enter a market that is very competitive and I just don't feel that full tang should add as much to the price as they did. I have an Ontario TAK1, about the same price as the Garberg. I am sure the Ontario will outperform the Mora easily. There are many options in that price range that will outperform the Galsberg. And I tend to agree with you on the Robust being the best choice in that line.
I am right where you are about the price I would pay for the garberg...40-50$ I would pay, but not more. THe Buhcraft Black is nothing to brag about...not when you compare it with the Robust which only costs 16 $ and can do anything that the BB does. they are trying to enter the bushcraft/survival knife market and they can do it since everybody knows that they make good knives. The problem is: For me Mora means: Inexpensive knives that work! Like I said in my first video: I think this is a knife aimed at the UA-cam Survival/Tacti-cool community. It's a good knife, no doubt...but too expensive.
@@SpartanJohns BB has more steel, thicker knife bigger tang than a robust, sharpened spine. More comfortable IMO so I wouldnt neccesarily say there isnt much diff between the robust and BB
cred ca inca mai poti gasi la shopuri online... cauta pe google... eu nu recomand pentru ca mie mi se pare ca sunt cam nesimtiti unii cand vine vorba de preturi... un shop din Germania are preturi foarte bune HKGT.DE
No prob here paying the extra $$ for Garberg except I despise how the edge does not go all the way into the handle. For me, it is a signature Mora feature and one of my favorite things about the companion, robust, and bc black.
Now I have a problem choosing a knife to take out on a Afternoon Delight. Yup its between my Cold Steel SISU with the San Mai 3 Laminated Blade a copy of a Tapio Wirkkala Puukku but in modern material. Then there's my Vintage Blind Horse Bushcrafter very similar knife to the Garberg. Well sort of except my Bushcrafter is in O1 and a Kephart Style. Then there's my LT. Wright 3V GNS with the Coyote Black Mountain Handle a Beauty will carve small curves. My Fox Pro Hunter and my Puma Eiche Wolf in Oak are more of a Hunting Knife but I use them in the Bush, Infact my Pro Hunter is similar style to my Steel Will Druid 240 but it's a little longer blade and in the 9Cr18MoV. and my Pro Hunter is in the Austrian Bohler N690Co Stainless. Oh, I just got Dangler Extentions Caribiners for my Pro Hunter and my Cold Steel SISU. plus a couple of others. It makes a Dangler very easy to put on with its Caribiner trap. But for a TactiKewl Knife. I fell in love with my S. O. G. Pillar Fix Blade. It's in the S35Vn and a 5" blade. But very modern Camel Hump blade. It doesn't appear to be a big knife and has a Saber Vex Grind. It also has a Choil so I could really choke up on Task Specifics. It's not too narrow or wide blade making it a perfect Bush Craft Knife. I Horizontal Carry it in front so it's right there. To keep a Trio very Lite. I add my 2Hawks Double Bit Hatchet with now my new WoW Folding Saw which is a super sonic saw. I have the Scabbard and I can carry it in the open position just like my Wicked Tough Saw. Yeah, Denis. Some tough choices. But I still love my Rodent 5 with my 17" Hultafors Bruks Agdor Hatchet which I also got a Axe Holster to carry it and my Wicked Tough Saw. A Great Basic Trio to go on a hike with. I also like to take my Victorinox Delemont Collection Ranger 78 with this Trio. Because I could go with my Haversack or my Kodiak Gearsling.,,. p
I, for the most part gave up on carrying sheaths with danglers. They are very comfortable to carry. I still have one, for my Enzo Trapper and for bushcraft purposes I still like to carry it like that.
I was going to buy a Garberg. It looks like it performs. I pulled the trigger on a Terävä Jääkäripuukko and I don't think there is anything the Garberg can do that the Puukko can't do.
categoric. Doar ca am cativa prieteni care s-au plans de teaca de piele de la Garberg. iar daca iei teaca de piele nu prea mai ai functia asta de Multimount.
I also like carbon steel knives but I do appreciate the stainless steel ones. it is still dirty from the last outing...i said I would clean it but I kept putting it off. I could have not done that with my carbon steel knives. I imagine this one would have a blueing like the Bushcraft black does..it looks cool but when you shapen it...you have the same problems... Most my Moras are carbon steel..to tell you the truth, performance wise...i cannot tell there is a difference between Mora's carbon and stainles steel...other than the fact that you can strike sparks from the carbon steel with a hard rock....
Well, the angel of the secondary bevel is approx. 35 deg. in total, not per side... I have really hard times to imagine a knife with the cutting angle of 70 deg. no matter how tiny the bevel was :-)
well..you are wrong. 35 dps. not inclusive. 35 degrees inclusive(in total) would be ok. Like any of my folders or better... This one was just lik my ESEE 4 was when it was new....35 dps...
If you give your scandis a little convex, you will end up having scandivexes on those beautiful blades. Specially best on Garberg. Then you will get way better feathers, way easier. Generally you will get a better utility, bushcraft, even survival blade.
it surely is a very robust built knife. My main problem with it is the fact that they decided to put a secondary bevel on it.... I have no ptoblem with Mora's rat tang knives...That is why I said that if you only need such a knife for working(not caring how it looks) the Robust model would be a better investment. It is rat tang but I did try to break it while doing normal 'bushcraft tasks' and failed...I still have it...
SpartanJohns thats good to know, as far as me im new to mora and any better type knives i dont even know about 2nd bevel and skandy types i just only knew if a nife was sharp or not, i did buy a shrade at home depot many years ago about 18 years give or take it was made in the usa but useing it for work the tip eventually broke that was the best knife i knew of at that time , now i was looking for another like it and dicovered mora and thats what i meant when i said the full shank but according to their reputation any of them you cant go wrong with especially after going thru a lot of over priced knives here and there only to go wrong, im no expert at all thats why i watch the video's enjoy the knives i orderd 2 more just to try them out and try my hand at throwing, its almost like a hobby and fun and good for work to, i subscribed to you John and like your videos to, talk to you later
if you are looking for an inexpensive knife which is a good workhorse, try the Mora Robust(or Mora Companion HD-almost the same model) . They cost about 15$ and are very good for fine tasks and can handle some serious abuse
I think where the moras hit well is in the cheap seegment, for example the mora companion or the mora pro s/c. If mora reach a value too high it must compete with other high quality brands, but with their cheap models they are a winners (even so, they have competence, hultafors and some others).
Mora's "cheap line" is still better than most knives which cost double or triple as much. The Robust, for example, can outcut and outlast some much more expensive knives. This is the reason why so many people like them. I have one hultafors knife...I used it very little....the handle is better on my Moras... I hope that they will stil make the old models and maybe bring ome back...
You dont have to choose a Mora,,,, just get a bunch of them, their cheap and excellent. I love my Bark River Bravo" but always have a Mora Garberg in my pack and a Fiskars axe.
Sure....you don't have to get one. But if you do....i think the Companion HD is waaaay better than the Garberg. As for the Bravo....a good camp/hunting knife. And if I would have to chose to buy a Bravo 1 or a Garberg....I would buy the Bravo 1
Oh, In the Summer I like adding my Ka-Bar Johnson Adventure Parangatang that I just put Black Handles on it. It's one of my Summer Long Knives, I love it.,,. p
Very interesting thoughts and your conclusion in comparison was interesting. In regards to your comment on edges angles and shavings. I think smaller is better for those with more experience and greater knife skills. And of course the other side is better for beginners or those less in control of their knives. Great video my friend! Always great to see you chum 🙂 Just black pissed me off though. Lol Be well Craig
I think i said the same think in the video where i presented my Bone Collector...about edge angles.... I still plan to work with it "as is" just to see when I will definitely feel the need to take off the secondary bevel... The Kansbol seems to be more and more interesting..except for that grind...However I am really enjoying the Eldris! More and more each day...it really is a lot of fun to work with it! Thanks again! ;)
Oh, I also permanently attached my Mora Kansbol to my Fox Parang Bushcraft Jungle Knife a lovely piece of kit. Oh and my Eldris. Add my 2Hawks Double Bit Hatchet and my Wicked Tough Saw and Blip, Blap, Blam, Blippitied, Bloppitie, Boom, and away I go, heh heh heh.,,. p
SpartanJohns I think he was just justifying the price for those complaining about it, using “you get what you pay for” in a positive manner. I was confused at first too.😊
I belive the garberg is just to expensive. In that price range is just to much competition and I can get a knife with sheath made of better materials than just rubber and plastic. Also I don't like the blade shape of the new moras, not pointy enough as u said.... Marius
I agree...way to expensive. it is a good tool, very robust and I like the fact that it is stainless steel..it is still dirty from the last outing...i said I would clean it but I kept putting it off. I could have not done that with my carbon steel knives. In this price range it is not far away from an Enzo Trapper. Which is always a good choice in my book.
I've got several mora but I've always hated the sheath because there just ugly plastic. I love there knives so I find leather sheath and put them in. Great looks after that and good knife. But certainly not the ones I always carry.. My home office walls are covered with knives,, mostly the old ones they don't make any more. Great steel. I sharpen my own knives. Most my old knives are equall to my custom ones that I paid to much for. I've put them threw bushcraft cutting feathers and chopping etc. Trust me old knives in good condition is great. The garburg knife is not worth the money.
just came across this vid almost 2 yrs old now lol but nice review on the Garberg for peeps that may be looking for just a knife for bushcraft... however, the Mora Gargberg is and was to be advertised and intended as a knife to be used as a one option tool for survival type situations or as a an option to keep gear weight and amount of gear down went out in the woods and not only a bushcraft knife per se . Perhaps outdoor stores and online stores may be pushing the Garberg as a bushcraft knife but it is more than that...Dave Canterbury has vid from 2017 explaining this for the release of the Garberg Carbon. ua-cam.com/video/rmmAzYA3m_0/v-deo.html
Nothing against the Garberg but for 80 bucks I can get a BK2 or maybe even catch an Esee 5 at a reduced price. If the desire is for a tougher, stronger and more robust blade that would be a better choice.
The Robust is a much better deal than either the BB or the Garberg. But the Garberg looks cooler...like a 510 on steroids...if they just had not put that secondary bevel on it....
"I would not recommend the bushcraft black" ... never have I heard someone be so wrong LOL also saying the Garberg isn't a bushcraft knife... what are you smoking, my friend?
@@SpartanJohns My channel name goes for everyone. Also, you do not know my age... I've been around long enough to use many many blades and in my opinion (along with MANY others) the bushcraft black is a great knife, especially for the price amd and the Garberg (especially the carbon steel version) most certainly is a bushcraft style knife that Mora intended on being a "one tool option, which I don't believe in that philosophy. Anyways, just my two cents. I meant no harm or insult. Everyone is different and has their own opinions which makes the world a beautiful place. 😊
@@nunyabizness3882 re-read your message and tell me you meant "no harm or insult". So now, that you've come to your senses, let's talk! The Garberg has a tip which is more geared towards "general use" as you said. Combining this with the secondary edge which this model cae with and the thick 3.2 mm spine...it is more a hunting/survival knife than a bushcraft knife. The Bushcraft Black is not bad! Has a better tip for woodwork(i still have mine) but it can still not do anything that the Robust(companion HD) cannot. I talked about this in my bushcraft black video. The rubberized handle, while comfortable for a short while will stop being so nice to hold and control if it is hot/humid outside and you have to work a lot of wood(carving or making feathersticks from hard woods) Compare there 3 knives and you will quickly see that the Robust(companion HD) is the best when it comes to price performance. As it can do everything the others do but for a much smaller price. I have all 3 models. And I worked with all of them. I make no money from good or bad reviews. I don't care about subscriber numbers or views. I have a patreon where people can donate if they want to. But that's it. I give my honest opinion based on my experiences, not based on what others say. Sure...some of my older videos I disagree with. And when I find that...i make an update. See my Cold Steel SRK initial and update. I am a really nice guy! In addition to that i love steel, sharpening, testing performance, optimizing tools for a specific task and being 100% honest! All that makes me....very rare! I don't "regurgitate" information like others. I have my opinions and I am not ashamed to say things how I see them. So...no worries...no offense taken. I just reply to comments in the same manner they are written. And as you said: every person is different, we all have different hands and do things differently and hence we do have different opinions. This is truly what makes the world a beautiful place! 👍
Now I will agree the Robust is certainly the best value knife out of the 3, and can do basically the same things. The Garberg or Bushcraft black sharpened at a 0 degree scandi will work wood virtually identical though. Now, try the Martiini Condor Timberjack if you want a wonderful woodworking blade. The scandi bevel is a bit more shallow and mirror polished, which makes it glide through wood easier. It certainly isn't as robust as the 3 Mora's that were previously mentioned, but it's a very sharp wood working knife with a hypodermic needle tip and an ergonomic handle. It does have a rubber overmold so I don't know how it would do working with for several hours. Anyways, have a food one friend.
Say Heah Denis, I'm finally using my new Combo that William Collins made me. Is it worth the $850.00 plus, Absolutely, Both my Paul'ies Pride and Paul'ies Delight are Awesome, just what the Doctor ordered, heh heh heh, (Optometry Science). Anyhow, I posted them on my Google Plus lemme know what you think, Ok. Dilly Dilly.,,.p
I just ran across this video, & I have to give you props in your scientific & mechanical explanation of the assets, blade grinds & thickness of the three knives. Very factual & understandable talk.
Thanks! Not even 1 year later I noticed your comment!
Personally, I think the Bushcraft Black is much more comfortable in hand. I absolutely love the handle, enough that I bought a 2nd one. I don't mind the Garberg, it's a good knife, and the full tang might give a little more feeling of security, but the black is just more comfortable. It just shows how subjective things like ergonomics can be. What is perfect to one will suck to another.
I did modify the edge on both my Garberg and Black. I turned the microbevel into a convex. It still adds the extra stability to the edge, but it cuts much better imo. Then again, I'm a fan of convexed edges, so others may not agree. They do take a little getting used to.
Yes I have both and esee5, musso bowie, etc
One of the most intresting video about garberg
Totally agree. I just received my Mora Bushcraft in stainless, and I'm surprised too find out I prefer my garberg after a year or more of using it. Love it.
So far, the only thing I still find interesting about the Garberg is the 14c28n steel. I have both the Robust and the Outdoor 2000 and have yet to find any fault with either, except the handles being a little small for my XL hands. Your review covers aspects of the knife that no one else has. Thank you.
Thank you. The Garberg's handle is above the Robusts and in some points also better than the Outdoor 2000's.
As for the 14C28N....so problems with it so far...not a single chip or roll..but then again the edge angle it steep...I will know more after I modify it. But that will take some time since I want to do a more than decent job.
Moin Denis,
das war wieder ein sehr interessantes Video!
Macht immer Spaß deinen Gedanken über Messer zuzuhören!
Peace
Stephan
Danke Stephan,
Freut mich das dir meine Videos spass machen....Habe mir die letzten Tage ein Swiza genommen und mir wieder dein Video angeschaut.
Und mach dir nichts vor, 5M Klicks ist schon sehr viel! Glueckwunsch! Du hast die auch verdient!
LG
Denis
Multumesc de raspuns si continua sa postezi videoclipuri in continuare, faci o treaba foarte buna si incearca sa postezi mai des.
Super prezentarea. Ai atins toate punctele interesante ale acestui cutit. Din pacate cam scump pt ....
Multumesc. E un cutit bun. Nu stiu cum va fi dupa ce ii modific unghiul de taiere...
trebuie sa iti dau dreptate: e cam scump! Eu nu mi l-as cumpara...mai degraba Eldris. E mic, da...dar il duc cam peste tot si chiar imi palce sa tai chestii cu el...mai mult pe zi ce trece.
I would argue that people are often upset about the price because it is a mora, but the falkniven line is more $ and very similar. Stainless blade, plastic handle, and plastic in sheath. I like the mora sheath better
so far, the only aspect that I like more about the Garberg than the Robust is the handle.
I thought about a comparison between the Garberg and the F1 and my Enzo Trapper....that will ahve to come later, after I modify the edge angle of the Garberg.
So far, compared with the F1, the Garberg has a fuller handle and it does not chip. The F1's I had or sharpened all chipped no matter at what edge angle I sharpened them. |For the F1 I would choose the leather sheath..a friend of mine just gave me his zytel sheath and told me he has no use for it. He went hunting, it rained and as it was really cold. over the next few hours the knife froze inside the sheath so he decided to only use the leather sheath from now on
It hasn't happened yet, but I do worry about the rubbery handled Moras not handling the summer sun and heat as well. So that's a good positive point for the Garberg's handle. Price point aside, sounds like the Garberg would fit into a rotation of knives really nice. Maybe paired with a 510 or a VSA trekker for example? Because lets be honest, people like you (and me and your followers) don't go out in the woods to play around with just one knife.. :-)
Always a pleasure listening to you my friend!
That is true...we always carry a little(lot) more than we need.
The rubber handle never gave me any problems. Left them in the sun a whole day...maybe if you would do that day after day after day, the rubber might dry up and crack...that is an idea...and I think I have just the knife to do that with/to :))
I was thinking about the Garberg a lot as it is like the flagship of the "new school" Moras. I never liked the Bushcraft black as it really is no improvement to the traditional Moras at all, its just more expensive and... black.... The Garberg is a fulltang Mora which at first sounded to me like a great idea and seemed like an improvement. But if you consider the fact that you get 6 Companions hd/robusts or 4 Mora 2000 or TEN 510 for one Garberg and given the fact that i never ever had one of the non fulltang Moras fail on me i cant justify buying a Garberg. And i have a hard time seeing its real purpose. A 8€ 510 will outcarve it. A robust or companion will do at least as good in camp and bushcraft tasks and if you want a survival kind of blade i would go for the Junglas and BK9 calibers. Your video helped a lot, very thoughtful as always and we know you know what you are talking about when you are talking Moras!
Thank you! I am glad you liked the video.
I also could not justify it, not for the price. As for the Bushcraft Black...it is a good knife but once again...the Robust does the same things that the BB does...and as you also said, the 510 outcarves it anyday. I guess that with this new line Mora is trying to do something. And I am not one to complain. But I will stick to what works and when prices drop a bit...maybe I will also get on board and get the newer models. I only fear that they will keep "improving" and forget about the old models that really worked. Like the old 510 with a 2,5 mm thick spine...
I wish started making that one again...
+SpartanJohns they want their piece of the outdoor/bushcraft cake i guess. they are well known and have a good reputation, you cant really blame them for making money with the reputation and brand they built. I just also hope they keep the models on which their brand and reputation was built. And while i dont care a lot about the new models except for the awesome Eldris i wish they would stick to their traditional designs. The new robust is imho a step backwards for example. We will see what happens, Mora has always been flexible in regards of reviving old models or doing custom models for special purposes, customer requests or certain shops etc. etc. so i am pretty positive we wont run out of great and affordable Moras.
I have a new 546. It is a good knife but it is not as comfortable as the old 546/511...and by far not as easy to adapt...
I thought about the new Robust but I passed...since I really do not think that it will be very comfortable...
Same here: hoping that they will still produce the old designs which are inexpensive and great working knives
The heat-treatment on the Bushcraft Black is better than the robust. You will have to re-profile the scandi grind on the BB to make it more acute, but once you do, it slices, carves and cuts effortlessly. The companion will still serve 99% of your needs and remains their best knife to date.
The Bushcraft black has the same carbon steel all the carbon moras have,so I guess it has the same heat treatment.Are you sure it has a different heatreatment? Thanks in andvance for the info.
I like your thoughts. You also gave very good general information. I also agrees with your comment on the ricasso. Thanks. I will follow your videos.
Thank you! I am glad you liked the video!
Thank you for the overview and comparison, Denis. Greetings from Pittsburgh. Laura
Glad you liked it. If there is something more you would like to know just ask away :)
I own both the stainless and carbon versions of this knife. Over time by resharpening both blades, whether in the field or at home, the micro bevels have disappeared. To be honest I haven't noticed a difference in performance in either knife, in fact I prefer it this way. Of course the stainless version is tougher than the carbon blade and requires less maintenance, but the zero degree scandi grind achieved through regular touchups is amazing. I know it's a personal preference, but I think most would prefer it this way!
i have heard form more people that the later SS versions of the Garberg are better. In itself it is a good knife....i would opt for the carbon steel version and nowadays....maybe I would make it a "scandi-vex" instead of a zero scandi....not sure...
Another fantastic video Denis.
So out of all the fixed blades and folders you tried out and reviewed, which one fixed blade and which one folder would you keep out of all of them, to only use from now on?
Thankyou
Phil.
Hi Phil.
Sorry for the late reply.
out of all my knives....1 and 1? tough!
I found my Esee 6 to be the most useful. I can use it for splitting wood, chopping, cutting food....I look at fixblades the way some people look at folders: how useful is it? ESEE 6, imo, best suited for all around tasks....
Folders....here's the pickle....
i think, because they are build so well, i would chose a Cold Steel. Probably my Recon 1 in CTS XHP. because it is sturdy, good steel(softer than Spyderco's but still good) and has enough blade for just about anything you can/want to do with a folder.
I have several Mora knives and find I enjoy them all. I do like ergonomics of the Bushcraft Black the most.
I think that the 510 is the best allaround knife they make price/performance wise. The Bushcraft Black is definitely a good model. I much prefer it to the Garberg
Thanks for the review, came faster than I expected. And I appreciate that you touched the point if the sharp pommel would have any advantage. Now I see that probably in most tasks the spine will be better or as good.
Not a bad Knive, the Garberg it seems. But if I had to choose in that price range I think I´d spent a few Euros more and get the Enzo Trapper instead. In N690 thats a great knive, only the handle seems to be maybe a little bit better (or at least safer) on the Garberg.
I decided that I will test it in the "long run" with this secondary bevel to see how it does, then remove it and see how it holds a smaller edge angle...but first I wanted to see how it compares to what I hear on youtube...
As for the Trapper....it would definitely be a better choice than the Garberg...as you said..the handle might be better on this one...as for the steel, I am not familiar with Enzo's N690 but their D2 and O1 are very wel heat treated. I expect them to do an excellent job on N690 as well....
Would love to see a video doing a side by side use comparison of the Garberg with other bushcraft knives made by Spyderco, Enzo, Condor etc.
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Hi Denis,
I own a Garberg (as I mentioned before). Watching your thoughts here (at the rounded off exposed tang bit).
I was wondering, would the 90° sharpened exposed tang not be usefull in carving out the spoon part of a wooden spoon? I never tried it, but I was just wondering.
FYI, I havent bought the Cold Steel 4Max Scout nor the Voyager yet, II'm still in the balance between want, need, my usage and strengths of both knives. Last motorcycle camping trip we did, my brother brought his Skrama 200 and I used my Garberg. I still want a folding chopper/batoner though, just havent decided which one yet.
Kind regards,
Alain
Hi Alain,
You mean use it as Felix showed on the Venture?
I never tried it with the Garberg but i did try it with the Venture. It is doable but you need a lot of patience and some practice. I think there are better ways of carving the bowl of a spoon. Felix showed a cool way a few months ago. ua-cam.com/video/U53au1PyR6c/v-deo.htmlsi=lGswmVD-r7x9lldV
I think this way is much more practical. Depending on the wood you can do it in 5 minutes.
Regarding the 1 knife for camping: sure a folder like the 4maxscout or the voyager are nice to try out and play with. And as before, i could not say which one would be better. If you still intend to carry the Garberg then maybe the Voyager would be better as it offers the larger blade. But if you say: i want something to replace the Garberg…the 4 max scout with an angle change might be the better option.
Skrama’s are nice. Never had one but a friend has one and i held it. Seems to be that “one tool” option. That and a small victorinox folder…what morw do you need?
But yeah..a chopping folder…
Well…i do hope you find the right combination for you. Watch Felix’s video! You might like that method. I did!
@SpartanJohns I will watch, thank you.
I paid $69.99 with free shipping for my Garberg Stainless with the Multi Mount. For what I received, I believe it was a good deal. I also carry the Companion HD Carbon with a 90° spine. A Buck 119 and 110 along with the Original Leatherman Multitool, which is over 20yrs old and still going strong. And my secret weapon is a old Camillus 3 blade multi knife with straight, serrated and saw blades. All razor sharp and all under $100. Except the Camillus which is over 20yrs old now and I get offers on it all the time. Go figure.
I have more expensive knives, I grew up with the Bucks here in the NE USA. Fly fishing and camping. Turkey and Deer. Knives are a subjective passion, just like women I suppose, it's a smorgasbord out there! Enjoy! 😊
PS. Like my Pop used to say, "If you need an axe, use an axe, if you need a saw, use a saw. You can play games later."
The back is to sharpen the birch bark type to get ignition material or scrape resin on a tree so you do not get resin on the knife blade.
sure...you can use it for what you like. but Mora actually presented it to be for scraping a ferro rod
I bought a knife from the blade exchange on the blade forum, guy was also selling a garberg, he offered it cheap($50 USD) and it shipped free with the other knife.
I was shocked how well I liked it. I bought another and am looking for a couple more at $50 to put into cooking kits with gassifier stoves. I like the garberg way more than a bushcraft black, and it feels 4x the knife as a bushlore. BUT I probably would not buy garbergs are full retail(I'm to cheap), thank you Mora for the Garberg!!!!!
The kids we get to hang with, they still get companion HD's, lol(I think they loose more than they break). When I need to clean a fish, I still like a SS companion.
i had the same aha moment about the edge pushing the shavings after i tried the buck packlite max small knife,its a razorblade more or less,it cuts straight wood curls they refuse so curl since there is no metal to bend it,very strange experience,i ended up tilting the blade to finally get some curls
Great point! My personal opinion is that the normal Moras are incredibly strong from what they are and some how they can take a larger knifes abuse, and they are very inexpensive. The Garberg is around 80 dollars as of this comment, the upgraded steel and being full tang is going to be more money, maybe they could have sold it for less, but at the same time I think the Garberg is an amazing knife for the money compared to other knives (that are non moras) but because of the other moras perform so well I think it makes the Garberg seem less impressive........ I think they can improve the plastic shealth of the Garberg still for that money, and all the Mora sheaths
Excellent review. Really, a good job reviewing the comparison between these knives. I just got the garberg. $62.00 on Amazon. Not using it yet and holding in my hand I can agree with your conclusions. I probably wouldn't of purchased it if I saw your review first. Oh well, you can never have to many knives. Subbed!
it is not a bad knife. and 62$ is a good enough price for it. All I will do is modify the edge angle in the near future, but first I will probably test it against a few other knives
Thanks
I combined the 2 rings into 1 so can apply the the belt ring and still use the flap to secure the knife. I also removed the microbevel.
What would you guys recommend for a long term bug out/wilderness survival small/bushcraft knife to add to my 3 blade combo, currently consisting of a condor bushcraft parang and probably a BK7 for my medium length knife. I was ready to go with the stainless garberg, but now not so sure after seeing this video. Performance and longevity will be more important than price point.
Thank you for giving some insight through this video.
The Garberg was just $25 for 4 days on Amazon. I ordered it yesterday. I bought the Terava Jääkäripuukko 140 a few weeks back instead of the Garberg, but I decided to go for the $25 Garberg too. Not sure what I feel about that decision yet, as I don’t want to hoard knives, but I’ll see what It’s like when I get it. From what I hear about the knife $25 seems like a steal, but then again, why steal something I might not need? We’ll see. Again, thanks!
i would say that for 25$ it is a good buy. 3.2 mm thick will get a lot of things done.
A "better than average" knife. Mine was one of the first. It might have received a faulty HT....
So you might actually like your garberg even if you reduce the edge angle. And if you keep the innitial edge angle i do not think you will have any problems with it in any situation
hey Spartan, du kannst beim Garberg die Sekundärschneide ja auch wegschleifen :)?Hab ich das richtig verstanden, dass du das Robust bzw heavy Duty am ehesten oder Companion dann nehmen würdest? Das Garberg dann garnicht? und das Black Bushcraft auch nicht? Warum dann die beiden eher nicht? Vorteil beim Bushcraft-kein Rosten im Vergleich zum Robust
ja, weiss ich natuerlich. es waehre trotzdem gut wenn Mora von anfang an keine sekundaere schneide drauf tun wuerde. weniger arbeit fuer bushcrafter
Ja, das Robust steht fuer mich an Erster Stelle, Danach das Bushcraft Black und danach das Garberg. Preis/Leistung
Das Robust kriegst du fuer 15 Euro.....das BB fuer 35-50 Euro...und das Garberg fuer viel mehr.
Das Robust kann alles machen was das Garberg machen kann... und fuer den preis eines Garbeg kriegst du 6-7 Robust.
Um Rostende Klingen mache ich mir keine Sorgen. Wenn du sie trocken haellst....rosten sie nicht so schnell.
Mein Robust hatte nie Rost....
I always enjoy your knife vids
Thanks!
Hi, I wanted to know from your experience whether this 14C28N steel is really great as it is said for knives to use in nature? Is better than 440C or VG10? Let me know what you think, a greetings Michele
About the same as vg10. Less chippy I would say and better than 440
Say Heah Denis, I have a few Mora's, I have a vintage Frost Clipper, a newer 510 which I neck carry with alot of my Yrio's. I also have what I think is a awesome Lite Trio I like using when I do a afternoon delight coffee in the bush and a cigar. I put together a Mora 2000, a Mora Hatchet and a Bacho Laplander, Thos the Mora 2000 became one of my Fav's so I'm not in that big of a rush to get the Kansbol and the Eldris which eventually I will also get the Garberg, But instead I got the Forest Exclusive #277 which look's like a Classic #1 but streamed lined and hand made with a full sticktang with brass hardware and a hardwood handle with a laminated blade. It's easy to say it's one of my Fav. carver's. Everytime I think I'm getting a Garberg, I get side tracked, Recently I was side tracked and I got the Steel Will Druid 240. that led to get the Druid 230 which will make a nice mild weather set, and in wet weather too. Then as much as I love my 3V Skookum Bush Tool, I got the Fallkniven H-1 to team up with my A-1 for wet and snowy condition's. The H-1 is similar to my S. B. T. Oh, I also got y Fox Bushcraft Jungle Parang which I always wanted. But because I like large knives, I got the Fox Hitam Golok instead which I teamed up with the Steel Will Darkangel a lovely piece of kit, Both ate made in Italy and out of the Bohler N690Co. Stainless Steel, nice. So you see, The Garberg is still on my wanna, wanna list, and this helped. But I might go with a Cold Steel Master Hunyer in 3V and a Becker BK-21. Although I did buy the Limited Edition even though I already had the BK-4 and the BK-5, and I almost missed out getting the Bundok BK-20 because I almost waited for the price to go down, as it was I bought the last Limited Edition and I concider myself very lucky I bought the Bundok. It's always nice to see you, Jib we'll done. Oh, I did post a few of my knives on Google Plus, Your welcome to look. ,, .
The Garberg is definitely "something else" ...just not too sure about the price...If you can get one for 50$ I would say it is worth the money...Always liked the way that the H1 and the SBT looked...considering having a knifemaker make me one...in the distant future...
I talked to Rod Garcia, We talked about how he got the idea for the Skookum, He told me he took some classes from Mors Kochanski, Rod is an avide Moose Hunter, and one day he asked Mors what type of knife he considered best. Mors at that time used a Mora Classic #1, so Mors took his out and said something like this, So Rod and Mors Book created the S. B. T., So when he went back he left his creation on a table, It caught Mors eye, and Mors said who made this, and the rest is history, Heah, It was nice, We got to do this again
But any one that makes that trailing point style of knife is a win, win. ,, .
Great video with detailed analysis. One question. What pants are you wearing? Looks like built in or reinforced knees, etc.
Fjallraven Barents. I have been wearing this pants for outdoor activities for over 3 years now. I have a video about them. If you are interested just look it up on my channel
The sharpened pommel is fantastic for taking birch bark off of trees, but if you don’t have birch trees where you live or don’t take bark off of trees then a dull pommel is probably better
I have a thought/question about the F1/Garberg comparison. I really like the concept of these knives (slim design, very compact plastic sheaths so no problems with water or cold and they really don't stand out on the belt, stainless = requiring very little care, compact size and synthetic handle = resistent to a lot of things). The F1 has been on my list for a long time and I got the Garberg last summer. Now my question: do you think that the F1 would be better as an alround utility/survival knife? Or how would you mod the Garbergs edge to be more robust to use it for such utility tasks. I really like the over all concept of these knives but I just would prefer one which had a more robust edge on it. Or is there a different knife that would be even better suited?
I think that the Garberg would be a more capable knife for all around tasks. The F1 is a good knife for sure...but the garberg is a bit more comfortable.
I would remove the secondary bevel, sharpen it to a "zero scandi" and play around with how steep I would have to put the micro bevel on.
As it comes I think that the Garberg's ede is very stable...as it is very thick. that bothers me..not the stable part, but the "thick" part.
A knife better suited for all around activities...The ESEE 4(carbon steel) is a favorite of mine. For bushcrafting purposes...if you already got the Garberg, i would say: stick to it! test it! see if you need more from it...
Unfortunately for the Garberg: I think that there is not a single task that the 80$ Garberg can perform which the 15$ Robust could not do just as well...
+SpartanJohns Thanks a bunch for your input! Knowing your channel I knew the ESEE 4 would come up. But what I love about my ESEE 6 I dislike about the 4 (I prefer stainless on sub 5 inch knives, also no coating for me and I dislike the choil on knives of smaller size as well, also I prefer narrower blades like the Garberg over wide blades like the ESEE 4, also I prefer the rather low profile low riding sheaths on the F1/Garberg over the high riding wide sheath on the ESEE 4). As for the Robust vs Garberg: if it is just a knife to use in the backcountry for crafting tasks or similar, the Robust can do everything the Garberg can at least as well. But honestly, when it comes to a knife you have on your belt most of the time in most conditions for most tasks ( that is how I view the Garberg, as a general use knife always on hand, because of the low profile sheath, the durable materials etc) I am more than willing to pay a premium for the better materials and full tang.
In this case I would suggest you find a good knifemaker and get a custom knife.
I like the F1, but I do not see it as a camp knife. The handle is too thin. The Garberg is better when it comes to comfort in hand.
I wanted a knife that had a handle that felt good in my hand an aprox 4 inch blade out of well heat treated D2.
So I looked around and found the BRKT Aurora. I drew it, modified it a bit and had a knifemaker make me a blade. Then I aked a friend of mine to make a handle to my liking. You can see that knife on my channel "My Hunting Knife/Fire in wet conditions...part 1 and 2"
If you are willing to pay more for a knife as you want it...this would be the way to go
SpartanJohns Thanks! Yes, a custom would be the way to go but I don't think it's easy to get an overmolded handle on a custom? So I think I'll just work on the edge angle on my Garberg and add a custom security strap to the sheath (similar to the one on the F1 Zytel sheath, maybe I can make on myself with a rivet, a piece of webbing and a button) Thanks again for your input!
Hey Denis,
Great video. Thanks for doing these reviews. I'm sure I'm not the only one that appreciates your time and money spent just so we can get a decent look at a knife or tool we might be interested in. Just out of curiosity, how's that replacement GB hatchet doing? Any issues?
Thanks! I appreciate that...I really get a kick out of it, when someone tells me that they found my videos useful and that they bought a knife because of my reviews and that they are not dissapointed by it at all.
About the GB replacement. The grind is thinner with the new one which made it easier to work with.
I still like the Wildlife Hatchet model. It comes out very often. I will have to give it a "once over" linseed oil and sharpening...so far it has chopped a few difficult logs, helped me out with some light carving...but it has not gone thru the things I put the other one thru...However I like the thinner grind. I suspect that my old one was an exception...lopsided with a thick grind...
I have been looking at Fiskars lately, simply because I want to try something new...but the Wildlife Hatchet still comes out with me every time...
Thanks Denis!
What do u think about bushcraft force?
Good video. I got my Garberg for 53 USD, which I think is great. Other than some pocket knives, it's the most I've spent on a knife. That being said, how do you compare this to higher end stainless steel knives? Is it worth looking at a Fallkniven if I already have the Garberg?
53 $ is a good price. I think you got a good deal.
The F1 is a different style of knife. The Garberg's handle is fuller.
If you have the garberg I would not recommend the F1. I like my F1. It is a good knife. But i feel like the Garberg can do most tasks that the F1 can do.
Not sure about the steel. I have a Real Steel with 14C28N. So far no problems with that...the arberg gave me no isssues..but the edge anlge is much greater with it.
I will modify the edge angle and then have more info on that...but that will be a bit later.
SpartanJohns Yeah, I didn't see a real reason to get the F1. I have always kind of wanted one, but can't justify the price tag. Even more so now that I have the Garberg.
Are you going to take off the secondary bevel? I got the leather sheath. The inside looks like it's not doing so hot, so I might have to contact Mora about either getting it replaced or getting the plastic sheath.
you could probably get a second hand F1 which you might get for a good price. It is a nice knife. I would think of it primarily as a hunting/edc knife(if you can carry it). It does a good job and the VG10, although it chips is easy to keep sharp(microchips included)
I like the look of the leather sheath. I like how practical the plastic sheath is. No real way to damage it while sheathing the knife.I would like more retention from the plastich sheath because when I carry it upside down the strap does move to the side very easily..
So far I am happy with the multimount. Maybe if you would hotwax the sheath or use some leather hardener it would guide the knife better when going in the sheath keeping it from cutting it.
I would e curious about what Mora tells you about the sheath!
I'll have to look up how to do that. I'm fairly new to fixed blades so I don't have any experience with leather sheaths.
I would definitely EDC a fixed blade if work permitted it. As it stands, I'm not really allowed to have a weapon at work. I don't think any of my co workers would care, but the second a customer feels threatened by a three inch knife I might as well drop off my vehicle and go home. Suspension without pay.
I've been thinking about getting another neck knife since I don't care for the Izula. I just hate spending money on things I don't end up using.
I think that, unless you live/work in an extremely cold environment, kydex is the best choice. for a sheath...Leather looks better but Kydex is more practical.
I understand...I have the same issues in carrying a knife. That is one reason why I do not carry a fixed blade.
I also had the Izula and carried it as a neck knife for about a year...liked it but ended up not using it as much.
small knives are ok...I just prefer folders to small fixed blades when it comes to edc.
imo so far, best option for a folding edc is still Victorinox. Everybody knows them, they come in bright colors...red, blue...so people don't feel as threatened by them...
have u tried the kansbol I have a burnt orange one great knife
I had a OD Kansbol. Lent it to a friend who wrecked the handle.
I liked the Kansbol! I think it is much better than the Garberg.
@@SpartanJohns I got both garbergs I likem a lot the kansbol slices better tho thinner
@@wolfpacak47 thinner blades are always better for regular tasks, imo
Excellent video, good job!!
What pants are those??? I want a pair
Hi, I'm looking for a compact, sturdy and reliable knife to take a long trip in the wild, I need that I can count on my knife without being afraid that you will abandon me or break during use, according to you this knife can be a good one choice for what i am looking for? let me know your opinion, thanks Michele.
Any knife can do that. And any knife can fail. My suggestion is: find a knife you find visually pleasing and comfortable to use. Then start testing it. Test it harder than you intent on ever using it. If it does not fail then you got a knife you can rely on.
I did this with the ESEE 4 and the Mora Robust. I tried to break them batoning wood.
That is really the only way to have a knife you can rely on. Any knife blade can fail if the heat treatment is not done right or the material is faulty....
Testing your gear in a controlled environment is the best way start trusting and know it and its limitations
Check out the Mora Companion. It's a great knife and Amazon has them for less than $15. I have used mine hard for 3 years with no complaints and it is lite weight for backpacking.
Good re ire, have you tried mora kansbol?
I have not! I am not to keen on the grind it has...the only advantage that the Kansbol has over the Mora Outdoor 2000 is the multimount system
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Great review. So the question is, in your opinion, is it worth the whole lot more of money than the Robust, or the Bushcraft?I agree with you, I feel it is overpriced. I can see $50, may be $60 tops, but $80 is just too much. I think they are trying to enter a market that is very competitive and I just don't feel that full tang should add as much to the price as they did. I have an Ontario TAK1, about the same price as the Garberg. I am sure the Ontario will outperform the Mora easily. There are many options in that price range that will outperform the Galsberg. And I tend to agree with you on the Robust being the best choice in that line.
I am right where you are about the price I would pay for the garberg...40-50$ I would pay, but not more. THe Buhcraft Black is nothing to brag about...not when you compare it with the Robust which only costs 16 $ and can do anything that the BB does.
they are trying to enter the bushcraft/survival knife market and they can do it since everybody knows that they make good knives. The problem is: For me Mora means: Inexpensive knives that work!
Like I said in my first video: I think this is a knife aimed at the UA-cam Survival/Tacti-cool community.
It's a good knife, no doubt...but too expensive.
@@SpartanJohns BB has more steel, thicker knife bigger tang than a robust, sharpened spine. More comfortable IMO so I wouldnt neccesarily say there isnt much diff between the robust and BB
if taken out of context then: yes. if we look at what they can do then: no.
That is my opinion after working with the Robust and the BB
@@JordanMac79agreed, I think the bushcraft is a nice improvement over the companions. Thicker beefier blade, sharp spine, and more comfortable handle.
unde se mai gaseste mora robust cum ai tu fiindca cel nou nu prea imi place?
cred ca inca mai poti gasi la shopuri online... cauta pe google... eu nu recomand pentru ca mie mi se pare ca sunt cam nesimtiti unii cand vine vorba de preturi... un shop din Germania are preturi foarte bune HKGT.DE
merci fain de indrumare
No prob here paying the extra $$ for Garberg except I despise how the edge does not go all the way into the handle. For me, it is a signature Mora feature and one of my favorite things about the companion, robust, and bc black.
I just want to say the garberg has a 27 degree angle
per side!
SpartanJohns yep that's what I mean thanks. How do you sharpen the m bevel then- just at that 27 degree angle on a waters tone
you find the edge angle and grind from there. i have a video about how to find the edge angle. check it out
SpartanJohns lots if people say they get rid of the micro bevel. I want to keep it so would I just find the edge and sharpen normally ?
Now I have a problem choosing a knife to take out on a Afternoon Delight. Yup its between my Cold Steel SISU with the San Mai 3 Laminated Blade a copy of a Tapio Wirkkala Puukku but in modern material. Then there's my Vintage Blind Horse Bushcrafter very similar knife to the Garberg. Well sort of except my Bushcrafter is in O1 and a Kephart Style. Then there's my LT. Wright 3V GNS with the Coyote Black Mountain Handle a Beauty will carve small curves. My Fox Pro Hunter and my Puma Eiche Wolf in Oak are more of a Hunting Knife but I use them in the Bush, Infact my Pro Hunter is similar style to my Steel Will Druid 240 but it's a little longer blade and in the 9Cr18MoV. and my Pro Hunter is in the Austrian Bohler N690Co Stainless. Oh, I just got Dangler Extentions Caribiners for my Pro Hunter and my Cold Steel SISU. plus a couple of others. It makes a Dangler very easy to put on with its Caribiner trap. But for a TactiKewl Knife. I fell in love with my S. O. G. Pillar Fix Blade. It's in the S35Vn and a 5" blade. But very modern Camel Hump blade. It doesn't appear to be a big knife and has a Saber Vex Grind. It also has a Choil so I could really choke up on Task Specifics. It's not too narrow or wide blade making it a perfect Bush Craft Knife. I Horizontal Carry it in front so it's right there. To keep a Trio very Lite. I add my 2Hawks Double Bit Hatchet with now my new WoW Folding Saw which is a super sonic saw. I have the Scabbard and I can carry it in the open position just like my Wicked Tough Saw. Yeah, Denis. Some tough choices. But I still love my Rodent 5 with my 17" Hultafors Bruks Agdor Hatchet which I also got a Axe Holster to carry it and my Wicked Tough Saw. A Great Basic Trio to go on a hike with. I also like to take my Victorinox Delemont Collection Ranger 78 with this Trio. Because I could go with my Haversack or my Kodiak Gearsling.,,. p
I, for the most part gave up on carrying sheaths with danglers. They are very comfortable to carry. I still have one, for my Enzo Trapper and for bushcraft purposes I still like to carry it like that.
I was going to buy a Garberg. It looks like it performs. I pulled the trigger on a Terävä Jääkäripuukko and I don't think there is anything the Garberg can do that the Puukko can't do.
Salut. 07:08 cred ca solutia la problema asta ar fi varianta de garberg cu teaca de piele, chiar daca e mai scumpa.
categoric. Doar ca am cativa prieteni care s-au plans de teaca de piele de la Garberg. iar daca iei teaca de piele nu prea mai ai functia asta de Multimount.
Do i sharpen it at the microbevel or like a scandi?
since it has a full grown secondary beve, i suggest you sharpen that one....
Up to you. Make it a true scandi and it will perform much better.
I like my Garberg, but still waiting on a "black version" aka carbon steel :)
I also like carbon steel knives but I do appreciate the stainless steel ones.
it is still dirty from the last outing...i said I would clean it but I kept putting it off. I could have not done that with my carbon steel knives.
I imagine this one would have a blueing like the Bushcraft black does..it looks cool but when you shapen it...you have the same problems...
Most my Moras are carbon steel..to tell you the truth, performance wise...i cannot tell there is a difference between Mora's carbon and stainles steel...other than the fact that you can strike sparks from the carbon steel with a hard rock....
garberg or esee 4 which one do you prefeR?
ESEE 4
Beautiful knife, extremely good value.
Great review. Thank you!!
Thank you! Glad you liked the video.
Well, the angel of the secondary bevel is approx. 35 deg. in total, not per side...
I have really hard times to imagine a knife with the cutting angle of 70 deg. no matter how tiny the bevel was :-)
well..you are wrong. 35 dps. not inclusive. 35 degrees inclusive(in total) would be ok. Like any of my folders or better...
This one was just lik my ESEE 4 was when it was new....35 dps...
If you give your scandis a little convex, you will end up having scandivexes on those beautiful blades. Specially best on Garberg. Then you will get way better feathers, way easier. Generally you will get a better utility, bushcraft, even survival blade.
after seeing all the torture test on the standard mora knves, meaning not full tang, i would put my trust in the full tang mora garburg
it surely is a very robust built knife. My main problem with it is the fact that they decided to put a secondary bevel on it....
I have no ptoblem with Mora's rat tang knives...That is why I said that if you only need such a knife for working(not caring how it looks) the Robust model would be a better investment. It is rat tang but I did try to break it while doing normal 'bushcraft tasks' and failed...I still have it...
SpartanJohns thats good to know, as far as me im new to mora and any better type knives i dont even know about 2nd bevel and skandy types i just only knew if a nife was sharp or not, i did buy a shrade at home depot many years ago about 18 years give or take it was made in the usa but useing it for work the tip eventually broke that was the best knife i knew of at that time , now i was looking for another like it and dicovered mora and thats what i meant when i said the full shank but according to their reputation any of them you cant go wrong with especially after going thru a lot of over priced knives here and there only to go wrong, im no expert at all thats why i watch the video's enjoy the knives i orderd 2 more just to try them out and try my hand at throwing, its almost like a hobby and fun and good for work to, i subscribed to you John and like your videos to, talk to you later
if you are looking for an inexpensive knife which is a good workhorse, try the Mora Robust(or Mora Companion HD-almost the same model) . They cost about 15$ and are very good for fine tasks and can handle some serious abuse
Fjallraven trousers ?
Yes. The Barents.
My favorite model so far. Hard to get them over here. Bought these 3 years ago in Germany
Informative and insightful, thank you.
thank you. i am glad you liked the video. :)
Another honest as always.
Thank you very much!
I think where the moras hit well is in the cheap seegment, for example the mora companion or the mora pro s/c. If mora reach a value too high it must compete with other high quality brands, but with their cheap models they are a winners (even so, they have competence, hultafors and some others).
Mora's "cheap line" is still better than most knives which cost double or triple as much.
The Robust, for example, can outcut and outlast some much more expensive knives. This is the reason why so many people like them.
I have one hultafors knife...I used it very little....the handle is better on my Moras...
I hope that they will stil make the old models and maybe bring ome back...
You dont have to choose a Mora,,,, just get a bunch of them, their cheap and excellent.
I love my Bark River Bravo" but always have a Mora Garberg in my pack and a Fiskars axe.
Sure....you don't have to get one. But if you do....i think the Companion HD is waaaay better than the Garberg.
As for the Bravo....a good camp/hunting knife. And if I would have to chose to buy a Bravo 1 or a Garberg....I would buy the Bravo 1
Oh, In the Summer I like adding my Ka-Bar Johnson Adventure Parangatang that I just put Black Handles on it. It's one of my Summer Long Knives, I love it.,,. p
Say Heah Denis. Guess what, I got my Mora Garberg, plus I got the Leather Sheath with mine also.,,.
Din cate stiu aceste cutite au fost preluate prima data din bucatarie si au fost transformate in cutite buschraft!
Mora a inceput prin a face cutite de lucru...si multi le-au luat si au inceput sa le foloseasca in buhcraft
Da!
robust cost 13 dollars , Garberg cost 6x more = Robust win !!
The edge and thickness of the Garberg and bushcraft black is the same
thickness yes, edge no
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Very interesting thoughts and your conclusion in comparison was interesting.
In regards to your comment on edges angles and shavings. I think smaller is better for those with more experience and greater knife skills. And of course the other side is better for beginners or those less in control of their knives.
Great video my friend! Always great to see you chum 🙂
Just black pissed me off though. Lol
Be well
Craig
I think i said the same think in the video where i presented my Bone Collector...about edge angles....
I still plan to work with it "as is" just to see when I will definitely feel the need to take off the secondary bevel...
The Kansbol seems to be more and more interesting..except for that grind...However I am really enjoying the Eldris! More and more each day...it really is a lot of fun to work with it! Thanks again!
;)
Oh, I also permanently attached my Mora Kansbol to my Fox Parang Bushcraft Jungle Knife a lovely piece of kit. Oh and my Eldris. Add my 2Hawks Double Bit Hatchet and my Wicked Tough Saw and Blip, Blap, Blam, Blippitied, Bloppitie, Boom, and away I go, heh heh heh.,,. p
No mention of it being full-tang or blade thickness. You get what you pay for!
what?
SpartanJohns
I think he was just justifying the price for those complaining about it, using “you get what you pay for” in a positive manner. I was confused at first too.😊
I belive the garberg is just to expensive.
In that price range is just to much competition and I can get a knife with sheath made of better materials than just rubber and plastic.
Also I don't like the blade shape of the new moras, not pointy enough as u said....
Marius
I agree...way to expensive.
it is a good tool, very robust and I like the fact that it is stainless steel..it is still dirty from the last outing...i said I would clean it but I kept putting it off. I could have not done that with my carbon steel knives.
In this price range it is not far away from an Enzo Trapper. Which is always a good choice in my book.
I've got several mora but I've always hated the sheath because there just ugly plastic. I love there knives so I find leather sheath and put them in. Great looks after that and good knife. But certainly not the ones I always carry.. My home office walls are covered with knives,, mostly the old ones they don't make any more. Great steel. I sharpen my own knives. Most my old knives are equall to my custom ones that I paid to much for. I've put them threw bushcraft cutting feathers and chopping etc. Trust me old knives in good condition is great. The garburg knife is not worth the money.
just came across this vid almost 2 yrs old now lol but nice review on the Garberg for peeps that may be looking for just a knife for bushcraft...
however, the Mora Gargberg is and was to be advertised and intended as a knife to be used as a one option tool for survival type situations or as a an option to keep gear weight and amount of gear down went out in the woods and not only a bushcraft knife per se . Perhaps outdoor stores and online stores may be pushing the Garberg as a bushcraft knife but it is more than that...Dave Canterbury has vid from 2017 explaining this for the release of the Garberg Carbon. ua-cam.com/video/rmmAzYA3m_0/v-deo.html
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That would be hard ... because even if I like certain knive very much I set them aside to test new ones I buy
Nothing against the Garberg but for 80 bucks I can get a BK2 or maybe even catch an Esee 5 at a reduced price. If the desire is for a tougher, stronger and more robust blade that would be a better choice.
Nuancolar Esee 5 sucks though
@@isaiahwince4261 how so?
i like your video.
Your absolutely right, too much money for that knife, and I have the robust, the black, the companion hd, and two other moras. Thanks for the video.
The Robust is a much better deal than either the BB or the Garberg. But the Garberg looks cooler...like a 510 on steroids...if they just had not put that secondary bevel on it....
Mora woodsman
Mora Waterfemale?
@@SpartanJohns if u say so it’s a proven knife .. I have a lot of william Collins knives also
@@scottsmith6571 i was merely replying in kind to your comment.
"I would not recommend the bushcraft black" ... never have I heard someone be so wrong LOL also saying the Garberg isn't a bushcraft knife... what are you smoking, my friend?
you're young! you have not heard a lot of things. give it time! as to your question...your channel name is your answer!
@@SpartanJohns My channel name goes for everyone. Also, you do not know my age... I've been around long enough to use many many blades and in my opinion (along with MANY others) the bushcraft black is a great knife, especially for the price amd and the Garberg (especially the carbon steel version) most certainly is a bushcraft style knife that Mora intended on being a "one tool option, which I don't believe in that philosophy. Anyways, just my two cents. I meant no harm or insult. Everyone is different and has their own opinions which makes the world a beautiful place. 😊
@@nunyabizness3882 re-read your message and tell me you meant "no harm or insult".
So now, that you've come to your senses, let's talk!
The Garberg has a tip which is more geared towards "general use" as you said. Combining this with the secondary edge which this model cae with and the thick 3.2 mm spine...it is more a hunting/survival knife than a bushcraft knife. The Bushcraft Black is not bad! Has a better tip for woodwork(i still have mine) but it can still not do anything that the Robust(companion HD) cannot. I talked about this in my bushcraft black video. The rubberized handle, while comfortable for a short while will stop being so nice to hold and control if it is hot/humid outside and you have to work a lot of wood(carving or making feathersticks from hard woods)
Compare there 3 knives and you will quickly see that the Robust(companion HD) is the best when it comes to price performance. As it can do everything the others do but for a much smaller price.
I have all 3 models. And I worked with all of them. I make no money from good or bad reviews. I don't care about subscriber numbers or views. I have a patreon where people can donate if they want to. But that's it.
I give my honest opinion based on my experiences, not based on what others say. Sure...some of my older videos I disagree with. And when I find that...i make an update. See my Cold Steel SRK initial and update.
I am a really nice guy! In addition to that i love steel, sharpening, testing performance, optimizing tools for a specific task and being 100% honest! All that makes me....very rare!
I don't "regurgitate" information like others. I have my opinions and I am not ashamed to say things how I see them.
So...no worries...no offense taken. I just reply to comments in the same manner they are written. And as you said: every person is different, we all have different hands and do things differently and hence we do have different opinions. This is truly what makes the world a beautiful place! 👍
@@SpartanJohns Our senses of humor differ, just as our taste in blades seem to differ. That is the beautiful thing about life 😊
Now I will agree the Robust is certainly the best value knife out of the 3, and can do basically the same things. The Garberg or Bushcraft black sharpened at a 0 degree scandi will work wood virtually identical though. Now, try the Martiini Condor Timberjack if you want a wonderful woodworking blade. The scandi bevel is a bit more shallow and mirror polished, which makes it glide through wood easier. It certainly isn't as robust as the 3 Mora's that were previously mentioned, but it's a very sharp wood working knife with a hypodermic needle tip and an ergonomic handle. It does have a rubber overmold so I don't know how it would do working with for several hours. Anyways, have a food one friend.
Move the ferro rod always not the knife
always? well...thanks for that great bit of "youtube knowledge". I will try to pass it on...sorry misspelled...pas on it...that's what i meant
une veste quechua .... t es francais!
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Moras are good if u need to cut wood get an axe
Yes....except that...NO!
Say Heah Denis, I'm finally using my new Combo that William Collins made me. Is it worth the $850.00 plus, Absolutely, Both my Paul'ies Pride and Paul'ies Delight are Awesome, just what the Doctor ordered, heh heh heh, (Optometry Science). Anyhow, I posted them on my Google Plus lemme know what you think, Ok. Dilly Dilly.,,.p
robust cost 13 dollars , Garberg cost 6x more = Robust win !!