If you ad 2 rings to the mount, you can still use 4 hair bands. The number of hair bands is really dependent on: a) The weight of the mic you're mounting, and b) the diameter of the mic relative to the diameter of the hose clamp. Since the hair bands go through the hose clamp ring, the mic touches the soft hairbands inside the hose clamp, preventing metal-to-metal contact.
@Laochri, If you clamped the mic, then ran the hair ties, you couldn't change the mic or rotate it without taking the whole thing apart again. The hole for adjusting the inner clamps allows flexibility for the mount to be used with more than one size mic.
True, sound reflection *could* happen. However the side-address Ribbon Mics that my spider mount is intended for are so laterally directional, (rejecting from above or below) that reflections would probably be negligible. Either way, it's the same cost... Just more effort to cut out the sides.
The cool think about elastic/felt hair ties is that they are the part that touches the mic, so there is no metal-to-metal contact between the mic and hose clamp. Springs would require some more engineering, and something soft to protect the mic. - Rickshaw
You can use the mic in the horizontal position just fine. If you have a really heavy mic, just use two hose clamps for extra support. The mic is protected from the hose clamps by the 4 or 5 hair ties. The hair ties pass through the inside diameter of the hose clamp, so the mic body rests on the hair ties, not the metal clamp. - Rick
8:05 YES it does matter very much. If you have a tube near or around a mic you will get the sound bounce back from the tube and it will sound bad! - Just to say that it matters. But if you cut it out like he did with the other one, it looks nice and will work much better.
thats a very ingenious design u got goin, if i were to add 2 rings to hold the mic, would i need to have 8 hair bands with 4 on each? i think il do my own tweaked version of this, cheers for the idea.
Very awesome man. Thanks a lot. Gonna be picking up the supplies after work. I however am using a blue yeti so I will probably need to modify the size of the hose clamp.
Hey Miranda, It's exactly the same process, but with square sections cut-out of the black plastic pipe, leaving four "posts" where the hair ties mount. Look closely at the brief shot of it. I cut-out the square sections with the same hacksaw seen in the video. Good Luck! - Rickshaw
your awesome thanks alot sir for helping out alot specially for those who cant afford and cant find the right shock mount for there mic's more tutorial please for home studio BIG THUMBS UP..
I am VERY interested in making the one that took you an hour...could you PLEASE do a tutorial for that? or some type of mini tutorial for it? Im not sure what you used to cut out the little square pieces... A tutorial would be GREATLY appreciated!! Thanks in advance!! -Miranda
@ArtistWoOoOo, An elastic spider shockmount isolates mechanical noise traveling up the microphone stand. The elastic bands do not transfer low frequency vibrations from the floor, effectively isolating those vibrations from being picked-up by the microphone.
So, I just made one (with a few modifications and looks more like the one with all of the sections cut out) and can't wait to make a second so I can run both of my overheads on them and see what happens.
Sorry about the rush. Rest assured, I didn't hurt myself. I was running out of videotape, and the camera was flashing at me. Even with a few minor setbacks, the whole operation takes less than 10 minutes.
Thanks. Anyone can get a cheap, imported mount for under $20. But that's not the point of this video... It's about doing things yourself. I'm glad you watched! - Rickshaw
Hey men! Really nice! I have two questions, what if you want to use the mic mounted into the spider and use it in horizontal position? will it hold the position or you can only use it in vertical? when you screw the host clamp against the mic it will not scratch the mic finish?
Your cut down spider mount would work better, The full piece of ABS might catch some of the sound and resonate it back tword the mic. It could make your sound kinda, tunnelish
Great video. ☺ I just starting my d. i. y project reference by your video.. Just curious as i didn't get that abs plastic, i just use pvc pipe as i noticed is not hard & strong like that abs plastic... Don't know until the project done 😰
instead of cutting the hole, couldn't you just slide the clamp up until the tightening-screw is accessible, tightening it, and then slide it back down?
Yeah, my old DV camera was at the end of its tape. It was flashing at me, and I wanted to get the whole procedure in before it cut off. Sorry for the rush. - Rickshaw
ingenious idea for sure....but, please...take your time...be more careful....i'd hate to see u lose one of your symmetrical digits...a trip to the er could cost as much as another nice mic purchase for the mic locker....:) thanks for sharing....
With the mic in the hose clamp, such that its face is above the rim of the ABS pipe, there should be little, if any problem for a side-address microphone. You can always cut-away the sides of the pipe like I show at 7:54. It takes a bit longer to complete, but no additional cost.
Actually, the hose clamp doesn't touch the mic at all. The hair ties are looped through the hose clamp, separating the inner diameter of the clamp from the mic. The only thing that touches the mic is the elastic bands, and they hold the mic firmly, like 4 soft little fingers. No scratches, no contact, except for being held in-place by the 4 hair ties. It works great. - Rick
Actually, the hose clamp doesn't touch the mic at all! It's perfectly safe for every type of mic. The elastic bands are looped THROUGH the hose clamp, so when you have at least 3 of them (4 shown in this video), the mic only touches the elastic bands. Another way to visualize it is: Imagine if you had 50 bands. The entire inside diameter of the hose clamp would be full, with no way for the mic to touch the hose clamp. As few as 3 of them completely separate the mic from the clamp,, because the mic only touches those 3 elastic bands. Yes, if you used really thin rubber bands, you might get some contact with the clamp, but hair ties are plenty thick enough to support the mic away from the inner diameter of the hose clamp. - Rick
from what I watched, that ONE hose clamp seems like a scratcher for an expensive mic. Admire your vid honestly. but nowadays pop filters are $5. keep it up, you have talent..
+Victor P (fastbob1) The metal hose clamp never touches the mic. the elastics inside the ID of the hose clamp suspend the mic away from the metal. I've never scratched a mic using this setup. I may not be doing a good job of explaining with words, so I drew a new picture: www.DiyRibbonMic.com/images/shockmount_top_view.jpg It becomes clear when you build it, that the mic is suspended inside the clamp by the elastics, without touching the metal. Also, 2 hose clamps can be used to support taller mics. The elastics go through both hose clamps... again, spacing the mic body from the metal. - Rick
para los que hablen español y no entiendan un carajo los materiales son, un tubo pvc la medida a gusto, 1 arandela o depende como se diga en tu pais c:,y ligas para el pelo :D ahh y los agujeros se pueden hacer con un cuchillo :D n,n
Thanks a lot! I made a modified version of it to use my microphone on a boom pole for audio recording in video. I'll also be able to put a dead cat on it if I need it. www.dropbox.com/sh/q8pgfhfk25sb9h1/AACgS09k2oDVoCqT4f9O5IHua?dl=0
Can you do this??? Need your help... This will work for me, but I will be building a five foot, ten inch mic boom with some sort of shock mount connection... Awesome concept, thank you... Please, keep making videos...
I missed that days that diy videos on youtube has no intros and no bllshts and just go straight to the diy.
Nice project. All stuff that's laying around the garage! Thanks for the post.
If you ad 2 rings to the mount, you can still use 4 hair bands.
The number of hair bands is really dependent on:
a) The weight of the mic you're mounting, and
b) the diameter of the mic relative to the diameter of the hose clamp.
Since the hair bands go through the hose clamp ring, the mic touches the soft hairbands inside the hose clamp, preventing metal-to-metal contact.
Can’t believe this video is twelve years old. Just subscribed
@Laochri, If you clamped the mic, then ran the hair ties, you couldn't change the mic or rotate it without taking the whole thing apart again. The hole for adjusting the inner clamps allows flexibility for the mount to be used with more than one size mic.
True, sound reflection *could* happen. However the side-address Ribbon Mics that my spider mount is intended for are so laterally directional, (rejecting from above or below) that reflections would probably be negligible.
Either way, it's the same cost... Just more effort to cut out the sides.
The cool think about elastic/felt hair ties is that they are the part that touches the mic, so there is no metal-to-metal contact between the mic and hose clamp.
Springs would require some more engineering, and something soft to protect the mic.
- Rickshaw
You can use the mic in the horizontal position just fine. If you have a really heavy mic, just use two hose clamps for extra support.
The mic is protected from the hose clamps by the 4 or 5 hair ties. The hair ties pass through the inside diameter of the hose clamp, so the mic body rests on the hair ties, not the metal clamp.
- Rick
8:05 YES it does matter very much. If you have a tube near or around a mic you will get the sound bounce back from the tube and it will sound bad!
- Just to say that it matters. But if you cut it out like he did with the other one, it looks nice and will work much better.
Thanks. I was thinking of something with hose clamps , but Am glad I saw this video. It is much easier than what I had in mind. Great idea!
thats a very ingenious design u got goin, if i were to add 2 rings to hold the mic, would i need to have 8 hair bands with 4 on each? i think il do my own tweaked version of this, cheers for the idea.
Very awesome man. Thanks a lot. Gonna be picking up the supplies after work. I however am using a blue yeti so I will probably need to modify the size of the hose clamp.
Hey Miranda,
It's exactly the same process, but with square sections cut-out of the black plastic pipe, leaving four "posts" where the hair ties mount. Look closely at the brief shot of it.
I cut-out the square sections with the same hacksaw seen in the video.
Good Luck!
- Rickshaw
your awesome thanks alot sir for helping out alot specially for those who cant afford and cant find the right shock mount for there mic's more tutorial please for home studio BIG THUMBS UP..
I am VERY interested in making the one that took you an hour...could you PLEASE do a tutorial for that? or some type of mini tutorial for it? Im not sure what you used to cut out the little square pieces...
A tutorial would be GREATLY appreciated!!
Thanks in advance!!
-Miranda
awesome idea!!!But can i ask sth,ive seen it when i went to a studio for recording but what kind of role does it play??
Thank you! I didn't know the Shure PG-42 needed a mount like this in order to put it on my mic stand, and this was my solution. :)
@ArtistWoOoOo, An elastic spider shockmount isolates mechanical noise traveling up the microphone stand. The elastic bands do not transfer low frequency vibrations from the floor, effectively isolating those vibrations from being picked-up by the microphone.
So, I just made one (with a few modifications and looks more like the one with all of the sections cut out) and can't wait to make a second so I can run both of my overheads on them and see what happens.
Sorry about the rush. Rest assured, I didn't hurt myself. I was running out of videotape, and the camera was flashing at me. Even with a few minor setbacks, the whole operation takes less than 10 minutes.
wow i dont know why ive never thought of that, that was awesome! nice vid
Thanks.
Anyone can get a cheap, imported mount for under $20. But that's not the point of this video... It's about doing things yourself. I'm glad you watched!
- Rickshaw
Hey men! Really nice! I have two questions, what if you want to use the mic mounted into the spider and use it in horizontal position? will it hold the position or you can only use it in vertical? when you screw the host clamp against the mic it will not scratch the mic finish?
@bas1495, The ABS plastic in this video is actually a pipe coupling about 3 inches (7.7cm) long.
Great idea .thanks.I like the cut out version.
Nice D'Addario bench, I always wanted to win one of those
Your cut down spider mount would work better, The full piece of ABS might catch some of the sound and resonate it back tword the mic. It could make your sound kinda, tunnelish
Why not tighten the ring clamp on the mic, then put the hair ties on the ABS coupler? Negating the need to drill a hole.
It looks pretty nice and easy to make!! Thanks
love it, get it done anyway you can!
Nice shock mount!! This one is the best I can find. Plus: You just exposed the secret ingredient to over 54 thousand people.
genius just genius, might make one also. good video.
awesome idea sir!
couldn't you just fix the sizing on the mount before you place it in through the pipe instead of doing all that extra work?
i wonder if you could attach springs instead of hair ties ?
Great video. ☺ I just starting my d. i. y project reference by your video.. Just curious as i didn't get that abs plastic, i just use pvc pipe as i noticed is not hard & strong like that abs plastic... Don't know until the project done 😰
instead of cutting the hole, couldn't you just slide the clamp up until the tightening-screw is accessible, tightening it, and then slide it back down?
Yeah, my old DV camera was at the end of its tape. It was flashing at me, and I wanted to get the whole procedure in before it cut off. Sorry for the rush.
- Rickshaw
Hi, have you tested it?
I mean the isolation effect.
i tried to do it this morning but mine was sucks! ahahah, cuz the plastic tube was old and not hard, nice idea! thanks a lot
ingenious idea for sure....but, please...take your time...be more careful....i'd hate to see u lose one of your symmetrical digits...a trip to the er could cost as much as another nice mic purchase for the mic locker....:)
thanks for sharing....
Well-done ! So creative ! Tnx a million !
dude that was awesome thank you sooo much man.
This is a great idea!
SWEET VID MAN!
Wouldn't the PVC tube add like a resonant box in front of the mic?
With the mic in the hose clamp, such that its face is above the rim of the ABS pipe, there should be little, if any problem for a side-address microphone.
You can always cut-away the sides of the pipe like I show at 7:54. It takes a bit longer to complete, but no additional cost.
that was a cool DIY video, thanks for that. But I suggest you have a better lighting for your videos.
nice vid rick
Great video!
May you make 1 that fits on a bicycle handle bars i got a samson g track mic ?
how do you deal with the inner corners?
abs plastic what length ?
Awesome job richshawrecords. I did a review of the Blue Yeti USB Mic and this would be a great idea for it.
great video i will be trying your idea
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I MADE IT!! and it works sooooo god!! : ) tanx man!
Very good 👍👍👍
At 5:22 I just realised that could have been an elegant product placement technique (your chair).
Brilliant!
Great Vid!!
not included: $100.00+ worth of tools. lol! sweet mount and nice workshop. :)
fugn great vid! very well done, excellent design.
Perfect!!!!!!! Thanks!!!
Genius
Good one but the clamp will scratch the microphone.
Actually, the hose clamp doesn't touch the mic at all. The hair ties are looped through the hose clamp, separating the inner diameter of the clamp from the mic. The only thing that touches the mic is the elastic bands, and they hold the mic firmly, like 4 soft little fingers.
No scratches, no contact, except for being held in-place by the 4 hair ties. It works great.
- Rick
nice tip
GREAT!
The shockmount is designed for a ribbon microphone of my own design, available from my website at DiyRibbonMic-dot-com
... wow u great man !
Oh No Where i can get That kind Stuff When i live on Finland :(
-Joona
"im getting a drill from over here", no your getting a drill-bit but anyways nice video
a friend of mine made one for his blue yeti its fucking massive
Ha! If I was getting product placement dollars, I wouldn't be making $8 DIY shockmounts!
- Rickshaw
i bought a new one for 10 bucks?!?
I'm getting a drill from over here!! Haha
my spider mount costed 5 usd....
Man you reminds me Mc Gyver!
You're really in a hurry in this video.. nice work here, my problem is tools :(
شكراً جزيلاً Craig Heffernan
Nice! why pay $30 when you can make this for less than $5?!
here's one I made earlier
That hose clamp will do much damage to mics
Actually, the hose clamp doesn't touch the mic at all! It's perfectly safe for every type of mic.
The elastic bands are looped THROUGH the hose clamp, so when you have at least 3 of them (4 shown in this video), the mic only touches the elastic bands.
Another way to visualize it is: Imagine if you had 50 bands. The entire inside diameter of the hose clamp would be full, with no way for the mic to touch the hose clamp. As few as 3 of them completely separate the mic from the clamp,, because the mic only touches those 3 elastic bands.
Yes, if you used really thin rubber bands, you might get some contact with the clamp, but hair ties are plenty thick enough to support the mic away from the inner diameter of the hose clamp.
- Rick
from what I watched, that ONE hose clamp seems like a scratcher for an expensive mic. Admire your vid honestly. but nowadays pop filters are $5. keep it up, you have talent..
+Victor P (fastbob1)
The metal hose clamp never touches the mic. the elastics inside the ID of the hose clamp suspend the mic away from the metal. I've never scratched a mic using this setup.
I may not be doing a good job of explaining with words, so I drew a new picture:
www.DiyRibbonMic.com/images/shockmount_top_view.jpg
It becomes clear when you build it, that the mic is suspended inside the clamp by the elastics, without touching the metal.
Also, 2 hose clamps can be used to support taller mics. The elastics go through both hose clamps... again, spacing the mic body from the metal.
- Rick
oh ok i guess i missed that part. good DIY
rickshawrecords thank you for the super-helpful video! i'm gonna copy the one that took one hour to make, if you don't mind?
Where I live it is probably cheaper just to buy a shock mount than materials for it.
Brazil?
nice video, a quick tip - if you add Https:// before the link to your kit the link will actually work in youtube. might help you out with some clicks.
verey helfull
para los que hablen español y no entiendan un carajo los materiales son, un tubo pvc la medida a gusto, 1 arandela o depende como se diga en tu pais c:,y ligas para el pelo :D ahh y los agujeros se pueden hacer con un cuchillo :D n,n
Thanks a lot! I made a modified version of it to use my microphone on a boom pole for audio recording in video. I'll also be able to put a dead cat on it if I need it. www.dropbox.com/sh/q8pgfhfk25sb9h1/AACgS09k2oDVoCqT4f9O5IHua?dl=0
hahahaha good job
d adario .. :P
Can you do this??? Need your help...
This will work for me, but I will be building a five foot, ten inch mic boom with some sort of shock mount connection...
Awesome concept, thank you... Please, keep making videos...