My main is a Lore-master and it is my favorite class. I enjoy variety so I like all the classes and certainly it's hard to argue with Hunter travel skills and other conveniences. However, Lore-master allows me to play as sleepily as I like or take on as much challenge as I want and with the 3 very different trees and wide range of skill types there's a lot of variety in just the one class. I do play my Lore-master in Blue spec most of the time. However, once past Level 60 I noticed that my pets were contributing a much smaller percent of my overall damage output, and once past 85 or thereabouts their contribution dropped off the cliff. Before 60 it can be as much as 50%, around 90 it's more like 15% unless you really go out of your way to just stand there and let the pet do all the work. Since so many of the Blue traits are about improving the pet, and since double of almost nothing is still almost nothing, I'm not sure those traits retain their value as one moves through Gondor and into Mordor and beyond. This isn't to say that Blue is unplayable - I am still playing it, mostly - but it is very weak and slow compared to Red. The best way to not be defeated, at least most of the time, is to defeat the other guys as quickly as possible. Blue is actually pretty nice in groups because the pets offer unique and pretty powerful buffs to the entire group but solo... I am a convert to Red being best even if I don't use it myself most of the time. I miss Sic 'Em although admittedly its replacement Murder of Crows is one of the most powerful DPS skills in the game and it is even AoE. Yellow is a semi-decent healer nowadays and it is unmatched for crowd control and other support tasks. One of the things you need to do as a Lore-master is quickly dismiss your current pet and then summon a new one. This needs to be done for several reasons: First, each time a pet is summoned it appears with full Morale, full Power, and all its skills off cooldown and ready to use even if it just used them all before you dismissed it or it died. Second, cycling through all your pets can get a lot of debuffs on the enemy and a lot of buffs on your group - more important for raids but useful even when alone sometimes. But it's awkward to have to right-click on the pet's portrait frame and select DISMISS PET or to type /pet release into the chat box. But it's easy to just click a button! So create a button to easily dismiss your pet: 1- Unlock your skill bars. 2- Temporarily move whatever you have in Skill Button 1 (the bottom-most/left-most skill button) somewhere else. 3- Type the following into the chat entry field, without the quotation marks: "/shortcut 1 /pet release". 4- Move the new Pet Release button, which just appeared in Skill Button 1, to whatever skill button you wish. 5- Return whatever was in Skill Button 1 back to Skill Button 1.
@@joezar33 A Wizard is a very specific thing in Tolkien’s Middle-earth: 5 angelic beings who have existed since the very beginning of the universe who voluntarily took on weak mortal forms to help the free peoples of Middle-earth oppose Sauron while not becoming tempted to supplant him nor to oppose him directly. That word means something else in general fantasy literature and games.
I used to play LOTRO when it first came out, many years ago (i had a phyiscal copy in a fancy box lol), I was a lore master back then with either a crow or raven, I think 🤔 I might be misremembering. Either way, I've been considering getting back in to it after 10+ years and this video has been really helpful, thank you 😊
Thanks for this! My main is a Guardian but I just rolled my first LM and this will be definitely a different experience… Looking forward to more class guides…
This is one class that I always wanted to get to a higher lvl but never got to far with it because I usually ended up making a different class and getting deep into that char and by the time I end up making a Loremaster I end up stop playing due to burnout.
I feel you. I played LOTRO during beta, and on the day of launch created a Lore Master. However, due to my altaholic nature, I have STILL not reached level cap (140 as of right now). He's around 130 right now, and I have about half a dozen others at roughly the same level. Someday...sigh...
Any suggestions on how to keep track of the durations of debuffs & crowd controls? Is there an ingame solution or do you have to resort to thirdparty tools?
Cheers from Germany, Renfail! I really appreciate your videos! Would you say that you rank the LM's combat prowess so high because you compare it to past iterations of the class? The reason I ask is that my LM is only level 40, but I would say it performs about the same on white to yellow mobs as yours in this showcase - which means he is struggling badly compared to my alts (Guardian, Champion, Rune Keeper, Hunter and Warden - who are also all fairly low level (30-62)). Class-fantasy-wise the Loremaster is hands down my favourite, and I have been giving the class try after try for over seven years, but it's just a real stinker by comparison, and I always end up playing my other classes. Do all classes struggle like your LM did in the video, once you enter the mid-game? What landscape difficulty was this on, btw?
Is loremaster and runekeeper the only real mage classes for this game? I'm kind of new to LOTR online. Thanks. Also, is there no ENT pet?? I'd have thought one of them would for sure be an ent pet.
My main is a Lore-master and it is my favorite class. I enjoy variety so I like all the classes and certainly it's hard to argue with Hunter travel skills and other conveniences. However, Lore-master allows me to play as sleepily as I like or take on as much challenge as I want and with the 3 very different trees and wide range of skill types there's a lot of variety in just the one class.
I do play my Lore-master in Blue spec most of the time. However, once past Level 60 I noticed that my pets were contributing a much smaller percent of my overall damage output, and once past 85 or thereabouts their contribution dropped off the cliff. Before 60 it can be as much as 50%, around 90 it's more like 15% unless you really go out of your way to just stand there and let the pet do all the work. Since so many of the Blue traits are about improving the pet, and since double of almost nothing is still almost nothing, I'm not sure those traits retain their value as one moves through Gondor and into Mordor and beyond. This isn't to say that Blue is unplayable - I am still playing it, mostly - but it is very weak and slow compared to Red. The best way to not be defeated, at least most of the time, is to defeat the other guys as quickly as possible. Blue is actually pretty nice in groups because the pets offer unique and pretty powerful buffs to the entire group but solo... I am a convert to Red being best even if I don't use it myself most of the time.
I miss Sic 'Em although admittedly its replacement Murder of Crows is one of the most powerful DPS skills in the game and it is even AoE.
Yellow is a semi-decent healer nowadays and it is unmatched for crowd control and other support tasks.
One of the things you need to do as a Lore-master is quickly dismiss your current pet and then summon a new one. This needs to be done for several reasons: First, each time a pet is summoned it appears with full Morale, full Power, and all its skills off cooldown and ready to use even if it just used them all before you dismissed it or it died. Second, cycling through all your pets can get a lot of debuffs on the enemy and a lot of buffs on your group - more important for raids but useful even when alone sometimes. But it's awkward to have to right-click on the pet's portrait frame and select DISMISS PET or to type /pet release into the chat box. But it's easy to just click a button! So create a button to easily dismiss your pet: 1- Unlock your skill bars. 2- Temporarily move whatever you have in Skill Button 1 (the bottom-most/left-most skill button) somewhere else. 3- Type the following into the chat entry field, without the quotation marks: "/shortcut 1 /pet release". 4- Move the new Pet Release button, which just appeared in Skill Button 1, to whatever skill button you wish. 5- Return whatever was in Skill Button 1 back to Skill Button 1.
Good to know!
you are the mvp
Wonder why the class isn't called "Wizard" ? I assume the Lore-Master based on Gandalf 🤔
@@joezar33 A Wizard is a very specific thing in Tolkien’s Middle-earth: 5 angelic beings who have existed since the very beginning of the universe who voluntarily took on weak mortal forms to help the free peoples of Middle-earth oppose Sauron while not becoming tempted to supplant him nor to oppose him directly. That word means something else in general fantasy literature and games.
I have carpal tunnel and was suggested to try Lore-master after not playing for a year. Thank you for your guide!
Glad I could help!
I used to play LOTRO when it first came out, many years ago (i had a phyiscal copy in a fancy box lol), I was a lore master back then with either a crow or raven, I think 🤔 I might be misremembering.
Either way, I've been considering getting back in to it after 10+ years and this video has been really helpful, thank you 😊
enjoy!
Thank you for providing these tidbits of information. Feel like I understand certain things a little bit better. Keep up the great work !
Glad to hear it!
Im just first playing today and choose lore-master thats why im here loving the bear life saver. Set up a toon in arkenstone, lf guild atm
enjoy!
Thanks for this! My main is a Guardian but I just rolled my first LM and this will be definitely a different experience… Looking forward to more class guides…
Cheers :)
Thanx for youtube algorithm! Cant even describe how needed and useful are your guides cause most of them are out dated. Keep it up bro! Great job!
Glad you like them!
Thank you so much for not using weird goofy voices. Just a nice average guy giving tips. Very helpful
I do plenty of voiceovers, so you haven't seen enough yet =P
DUN DUN DUN LOL @@Renfail
I love my B-LM!! But I do run some skills and pets that better fit my play style.
Very nice!
lore master my favorite class! Burglar second :)
Good choice!
This is one class that I always wanted to get to a higher lvl but never got to far with it because I usually ended up making a different class and getting deep into that char and by the time I end up making a Loremaster I end up stop playing due to burnout.
It's a slow burn to be sure. But it's sooooo good as you get a full array of pets, especially considering how much you can specialize the pets.
I feel you. I played LOTRO during beta, and on the day of launch created a Lore Master. However, due to my altaholic nature, I have STILL not reached level cap (140 as of right now). He's around 130 right now, and I have about half a dozen others at roughly the same level. Someday...sigh...
@@arekpetrosian4965 One day....one day...one day....the endless altitis mantra =P
@@Renfail And each time I create a new one I remember the words of Bullwinkle: "This time for sure!!"
Such an old game and such a vibrant community. I know nothing comparable to it except Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance
yep it's great!
Have you done an up to date ultimate guide for lore master after u41?
nope, but really not that many changes so my old guide is pretty much intact.
Any suggestions on how to keep track of the durations of debuffs & crowd controls? Is there an ingame solution or do you have to resort to thirdparty tools?
I mean yeah you can pay attention to the countdown timers manually but other than that it's all third-party tools if you're looking for automation
thnx u for share! is this clase viable to solo content? im newbe thnxx
Yes, it is. All classes solo; it's not really an MMORPG anymore, it's a single player RPG with group elements if you desire.
Can you cross and mix the color spec lines? Like of half of 1 and half of another? (Red, yellow, blue lines...)
after you have maxed out one, yes, you can start putting points in a secondary
what race you use in your lore master ?
high elf
@@Renfail thanks, nice video! very helpful
@@matheusvilela9539 cheers
Cheers from Germany, Renfail! I really appreciate your videos!
Would you say that you rank the LM's combat prowess so high because you compare it to past iterations of the class? The reason I ask is that my LM is only level 40, but I would say it performs about the same on white to yellow mobs as yours in this showcase - which means he is struggling badly compared to my alts (Guardian, Champion, Rune Keeper, Hunter and Warden - who are also all fairly low level (30-62)).
Class-fantasy-wise the Loremaster is hands down my favourite, and I have been giving the class try after try for over seven years, but it's just a real stinker by comparison, and I always end up playing my other classes.
Do all classes struggle like your LM did in the video, once you enter the mid-game? What landscape difficulty was this on, btw?
As you get towards Mordor, yes things get more difficult
Great video. It's time to dust off the LM.
Nice!
Is loremaster and runekeeper the only real mage classes for this game? I'm kind of new to LOTR online. Thanks.
Also, is there no ENT pet?? I'd have thought one of them would for sure be an ent pet.
Nope, no ents, and yes, they are the only mage-like classes
Which difficulty?
Base
😮
indeed
best class
One of 'em, yeah!