I've played alot of NB and honestly I'm so glad their changing this, reapplying RF always feels like a proper deadzone of your damage and removing the need to reapply as well as the more obvious cue for when it's ready will only make it better for all players using it.
I'm considering firing the bow now, rather than just leaving the buff running. Xynode did you get a chance to try this on your NB builds yet (magblade) to see if dps has been boosted when firing the bow.....
I for one appreciate these QoL updates, I wonder if this applies to the Bow skill which is similar in nature. Excellent super clear explanation as always, thanks again Xynode.
Evening all, I’m a returning player after roughly 12 months. I used to main a magsorc but think it’s time to change. I’ve wanted to try either a magblade or stamblade, all PvE content and maybe into trials. Which build would be more viable for some solo/4 man dungeon style ?
And the projectile is still a bow. That's just lame when the spell effects for every other spell is more like a dagger. It couldn't just be a dagger throw?
Meanwhile, NB has a too-good-to-pass-up 10% damage buff tied to a mag melee spammable that has to be slotted and micromanaged. What the hell are these devs smoking?
@@MrJeden 12 seconds that you can kite around a corrosive dk is easy. Been doing it easy on my brand new arcanist that I've barely been playing for 2 weeks. But nbs can spam 16k-20k assasins will every few seconds
@@nelson_rebel3907 i have 25k pen and 70 crit dmg.. full burst i can do maybe 60% of a good dks bar with full Balorgh ulti. Then they heal to full with 1 heal. Theeen if they catch me, im dead in 2sec.. unkillable
Between this and the sorc changes, it looks like that they are trying to balance out the Broaken Soul ring. So you can bet they will fix the ability to slot buff on the back bar with Broaken Soul equipped.
Which is more DPS when at four stacks: Light attack -> Pause for a moment -> Grim focus or Light attack -> Ability -> Light attack -> Grim focus (effectively wasting one stack but not having to pause)?
i see this as a nerf of skill for players that dont know how to play as a nightblade. All these players that power level and dont learn their class, who dont take the time to read what an ability does and only slot it because some voice on youtube tell them to. Not knocking the theory builders but I am knocking the players that just add abilities without really learning what the ability is. Learn your class, learn your abilities and this wounldnt be an issue.
The whole back-bar thing was basically ZOS being too lazy to create a normal PC-UI, instead they exported the console-UI 1on1 to the PC.... I don´t know of any players that are really fan of it. With oakensoul and all those back-bar buffs they started moving away from bar-swapping.... but in the end it is just bad game design and not really a solution. Same with only local traders/markets in eso- instead of fixing it every player is using ttc etc to get a global market in a mmo. Cyro and to some extent also the new arcanist class are copied from daoc. PvP seems broken in eso and doesn´t get any love even though the game started as pvp focused game. The pvp fights are based on action-reaction, which broke with animation cancelling- which was neither fixed nor implemented in the game design and balancing. The NB in eso feels to me like a griefer class. Unlike other mmos with stealth classes eso lacks a timer. For example, when you leave stealth and enter fighting in other mmos a timer starts counting down. During these few seconds you can not go back into stealth. Eso doesn´t have that, so people can constantly jump in and out of stealth. 90% of the in-game skills require a target. You can´t just fire into empty space in this game. That means that most direct attacks stop working as soon as someone enters stealth. Potions are basicially skills. To counter someone jumping into stealth you would get a 45(?) second cooldown time and wouldn´t be able to use healing potions etc... That is in no way a balanced trade. Then there are the anti-steal skills... they have limited range and cost alot. There are no skills against NBs using a bow skill, stealth, bow skill stealth etc.... Before you could go near them they would instantlyy run away in stealth. As if that isn´t enough NBs also get really high dmg bonuses, even without backbar buffs. In other games you get high dmg, but never that high. You also have requirements- like attacking from the side with attack A, from behind with attack B etc - there is no such thing in eso. The game-design/balancing is bad/broken. I have been playing (pvp) mmos for 20+ years, eso since around 2015 or so - but to me eso is the worst balanced/worst fighting design I have seen so far. The whole game has not really different classes with much different gameplay/experiences. The playstyle feels simliar. For whatever reason the dungeon-finder needs 3 different classes though, so people are required to play as fake tanks/fake healer to speed the queue up... The lack of real classes/different playstyles/roles also shows in trials and pvp. Trials and PvP are just chaos. You have to know the mechanics but no real tacticts happen. In general people don´t really interact much with each others, be it in fights or chats. Anyway... I find those small changes laughable considering all the problems eso has. Don´t make one buffing skill work from the back-bar, just make ALL buffs work from the backbar, maybe even remove the timer for buffs..... That would be some changes. Not his crap. Hell, even changing the color of the gear often doesn´t work in eso (getting different colors than applied) and the game has more bugs than any early release or beta games I have played so far. Meanwhile the devs celebrate themselves for their great work, for example during all the server crashes after the Necrom release. They sell ingame-houses for 100+ dollars, changing the looks of the character once costs 10+ dollars, they sell small chapers for AAA game prices and make the inventory on purpose small and the stacking bad so that you are forced to pay for subscription if you want any normal gameplay experience... just, rofl. The devs seem disconnected from the game and I don´t see eso outliving the next generation of mmos for long (ashes of creation etc).
As a brawler blade main, I feel the change to bow proc is unnecessary... makes the class easier to play which I don't like, if you can't keep your bow proc up 24/7 that's a skill issue and you should be at a disadvantage for not properly keeping your skills ready, only an opinion but yeah not a fan
while i agree it does make the class a bit more accessible, i’ve mained my stamblade the entire time i’ve played this game. i’ve gotten up to 110k parse, and can confidently say this is a great quality of life update for us. it really isn’t going to change damage output dramatically. i can benefit from it because there’s times where im going through the motions in content and accidentally rebuffed instead of proccing. yeah, you can say not proccing it perfectly every time is a skill issue, too, but everybody has moments now and then where they slip up on the proc. i’m confident many other NB players have came across this example, as well. also just my opinion
Finally, I cant count the times I pressed the ability a milisecond too early and reapplied the buff instead of firing the bow
this 👆
I've played alot of NB and honestly I'm so glad their changing this, reapplying RF always feels like a proper deadzone of your damage and removing the need to reapply as well as the more obvious cue for when it's ready will only make it better for all players using it.
I hope they give the "passive on either bar" treatment to expert hunter and magelight at some point.
Thats exactly what I thinking about as well.
My friend was saying the same thing when we were discussing the Sorc changes
I bet each class gets a change like this. It'd be interesting to see if they do something like this with weap buff skills too.
Thats only for skills with stacks. So maybe molten whip at most.
the only downside is I can no longer see RF cast animation, it's looks really cool tbh
Hope all is well Xy! Thanks for the video!
I hope they do this for revealing flare so you get the major protection on both bars w.o double slotting it.
Been waiting for this for awhile now. Thanks for covering this
Do you know when this gos live on console? I thought it was gonna be the 5th but still no changes
Does the red animation still show up on both bars? 🤞🏼
Do the stacks disappear when your out of combat? Considering using it for a heavy attack, incap, specy ganker
Patiently waiting for you to do necro 🙏🏿
I'm considering firing the bow now, rather than just leaving the buff running. Xynode did you get a chance to try this on your NB builds yet (magblade) to see if dps has been boosted when firing the bow.....
Do these skill bar bonuses carry over to werewolf?
I for one appreciate these QoL updates, I wonder if this applies to the Bow skill which is similar in nature. Excellent super clear explanation as always, thanks again Xynode.
This is insane!!! I've been thinking mine was bugged because it wouldn't activate... Oh my God, this is a total game changer...
Evening all,
I’m a returning player after roughly 12 months. I used to main a magsorc but think it’s time to change. I’ve wanted to try either a magblade or stamblade, all PvE content and maybe into trials. Which build would be more viable for some solo/4 man dungeon style ?
And the projectile is still a bow. That's just lame when the spell effects for every other spell is more like a dagger.
It couldn't just be a dagger throw?
Why is your bow proc on your backbar… never seen it there in parses
Did you even hear a word of the video?
@@im13sandman do you even play blade in end game content
@@Goldcohen22 I raise your question to my question with a statement. Yes
NB is my main and I'm so glad they changed this,absolutely brilliant
Meanwhile, NB has a too-good-to-pass-up 10% damage buff tied to a mag melee spammable that has to be slotted and micromanaged. What the hell are these devs smoking?
oakensoul nb has been broken for a while but the grim focus change is nuts.
I love oaken stsamblade, is this back ?
Oaken soul and Grim focus just for the buff?
Great info. Great explanation.
May we expect new builds coming tho ?
sounds good for my nb oakenGank build!
Yes the brotherhood will be happy
*Great Video !*
NB is already a top pvp class in many respects. This will absolutely make them ahead of the other classes that it's not really funny for pvp.
Right! Nb even more broken now
Dks are way better lol
@@MrJeden 12 seconds that you can kite around a corrosive dk is easy. Been doing it easy on my brand new arcanist that I've barely been playing for 2 weeks. But nbs can spam 16k-20k assasins will every few seconds
@@nelson_rebel3907 i have 25k pen and 70 crit dmg.. full burst i can do maybe 60% of a good dks bar with full Balorgh ulti. Then they heal to full with 1 heal.
Theeen if they catch me, im dead in 2sec.. unkillable
Lol yes this is amazing for pve but whew pvp gon be a mess, granted it’s already a mess with arcanist and dks
Between this and the sorc changes, it looks like that they are trying to balance out the Broaken Soul ring. So you can bet they will fix the ability to slot buff on the back bar with Broaken Soul equipped.
Which is more DPS when at four stacks:
Light attack -> Pause for a moment -> Grim focus
or
Light attack -> Ability -> Light attack -> Grim focus (effectively wasting one stack but not having to pause)?
the first option
I'm still pretty confused
i see this as a nerf of skill for players that dont know how to play as a nightblade. All these players that power level and dont learn their class, who dont take the time to read what an ability does and only slot it because some voice on youtube tell them to. Not knocking the theory builders but I am knocking the players that just add abilities without really learning what the ability is. Learn your class, learn your abilities and this wounldnt be an issue.
Its a good change as far as how the game should function, but it is going ro highlight NB pvp doninance. They need adjusted there.
The whole back-bar thing was basically ZOS being too lazy to create a normal PC-UI, instead they exported the console-UI 1on1 to the PC.... I don´t know of any players that are really fan of it. With oakensoul and all those back-bar buffs they started moving away from bar-swapping.... but in the end it is just bad game design and not really a solution.
Same with only local traders/markets in eso- instead of fixing it every player is using ttc etc to get a global market in a mmo. Cyro and to some extent also the new arcanist class are copied from daoc. PvP seems broken in eso and doesn´t get any love even though the game started as pvp focused game. The pvp fights are based on action-reaction, which broke with animation cancelling- which was neither fixed nor implemented in the game design and balancing.
The NB in eso feels to me like a griefer class. Unlike other mmos with stealth classes eso lacks a timer. For example, when you leave stealth and enter fighting in other mmos a timer starts counting down. During these few seconds you can not go back into stealth. Eso doesn´t have that, so people can constantly jump in and out of stealth. 90% of the in-game skills require a target. You can´t just fire into empty space in this game. That means that most direct attacks stop working as soon as someone enters stealth.
Potions are basicially skills. To counter someone jumping into stealth you would get a 45(?) second cooldown time and wouldn´t be able to use healing potions etc... That is in no way a balanced trade.
Then there are the anti-steal skills... they have limited range and cost alot. There are no skills against NBs using a bow skill, stealth, bow skill stealth etc.... Before you could go near them they would instantlyy run away in stealth.
As if that isn´t enough NBs also get really high dmg bonuses, even without backbar buffs. In other games you get high dmg, but never that high. You also have requirements- like attacking from the side with attack A, from behind with attack B etc - there is no such thing in eso.
The game-design/balancing is bad/broken.
I have been playing (pvp) mmos for 20+ years, eso since around 2015 or so - but to me eso is the worst balanced/worst fighting design I have seen so far. The whole game has not really different classes with much different gameplay/experiences. The playstyle feels simliar. For whatever reason the dungeon-finder needs 3 different classes though, so people are required to play as fake tanks/fake healer to speed the queue up...
The lack of real classes/different playstyles/roles also shows in trials and pvp. Trials and PvP are just chaos. You have to know the mechanics but no real tacticts happen. In general people don´t really interact much with each others, be it in fights or chats.
Anyway... I find those small changes laughable considering all the problems eso has. Don´t make one buffing skill work from the back-bar, just make ALL buffs work from the backbar, maybe even remove the timer for buffs..... That would be some changes. Not his crap.
Hell, even changing the color of the gear often doesn´t work in eso (getting different colors than applied) and the game has more bugs than any early release or beta games I have played so far. Meanwhile the devs celebrate themselves for their great work, for example during all the server crashes after the Necrom release. They sell ingame-houses for 100+ dollars, changing the looks of the character once costs 10+ dollars, they sell small chapers for AAA game prices and make the inventory on purpose small and the stacking bad so that you are forced to pay for subscription if you want any normal gameplay experience... just, rofl. The devs seem disconnected from the game and I don´t see eso outliving the next generation of mmos for long (ashes of creation etc).
Nb never went anywhere! They're pretty much top teir in every way!
Relax, its never forever😅
As a brawler blade main, I feel the change to bow proc is unnecessary... makes the class easier to play which I don't like, if you can't keep your bow proc up 24/7 that's a skill issue and you should be at a disadvantage for not properly keeping your skills ready, only an opinion but yeah not a fan
While we are at it let's make armor skills give you major resolve 24/7 and vigor constantly giving a hot just for being on your bar
while i agree it does make the class a bit more accessible, i’ve mained my stamblade the entire time i’ve played this game. i’ve gotten up to 110k parse, and can confidently say this is a great quality of life update for us. it really isn’t going to change damage output dramatically. i can benefit from it because there’s times where im going through the motions in content and accidentally rebuffed instead of proccing. yeah, you can say not proccing it perfectly every time is a skill issue, too, but everybody has moments now and then where they slip up on the proc. i’m confident many other NB players have came across this example, as well. also just my opinion
@@bobbymenchaca7828 agree
Lmao. You're bad.