Mshololo is all about qualifications and merit she is exposing our public sector for employing unqualified people with no merits... love this woman's work.
According to my knowledge when someone is shot there is a pool of blood but here there was only drops of blood so it's clear that the scene was cleaned before the police arrived and that the killer was in the house
As a medical officer who has had lot of gunshot calls ,some scenes don't have blood ,you even struggle to find the gunshot wound, especially when theres no exit wound ,most people suffer from internal bleeding and only few drops come out
How do you call a person who's just as helpless as you to come look after a house where thiefs, shooting and a killing a person where a robbery has just occurred. When seven people couldn't defend themselves what's Themba going to do by himself if they had came back Tjo... I'm so defeated 😔this is so unbelievable. The cops were just invested in the drama more than doing their job.... Don't police work on suspicions because I would have been very suspicious Themba is brave (I'M sure his a veteran 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😩
I'm so over this case.... I wish we leaved in the US. The Khumalo's and everyone who was in the house including the cops that were paid to mess this ish up would be long sent to jail.....
Which US??...there are cases which happened in about 30 years ago and still not solved how ever I'm not comparing South Africas technological development and the Justice system Sometimes you have to just fight for change in your country other than wishing to be another
It is so amazing that five people are arrested and the claimed that They have killed Senzo In this Case only 2 people entered the house and shot Senzo This people they are Profesional crooks They were driving this Police to and from to confuse them sothat they can drive them to dance for their music Don't forget this people are performers
How is possible that someone was shot in the house. When the police arrived for the first time, there was no blood nothing at the house... Even malume said he knows nothing but the people of the house went to the hospital. Then the police go to hospital to identify/confirm the body... This doesn't make any sense 🤷♀️
@@bongiwegumede4311 I guess this Mthethwa guy is being honest, he's just full of Zulu patriarchal tendencies disrespecting the advocate coz she's female. Bathathe Mshololo girl bathathe!
Why did they clean the scene at the first place , because they didn't killed senzo, who clean the scene and why? This is my South Africa if you don't have money they arrest you , those police officers they know the truth
You are missing the point Mthethwa you don't need to be told what happened where you arrived to the venue reported you needed to observe yourself even the whole yard. I watch ID channel you see police and detective analysing scenes where there is no one to tell them anything. People take careers to quench hunger not being passionate💔.
He really annoyed me when he said I was waiting for someone to tell me what's happening. Kanti what kind of training do these people get in the police college 😳😳😳
@@nathanielncube7593 well asingamehluleli singazi, okubalulekile Ukuthi he was trained for his job, if he wasn't competent to be a police officer ngabe akekho kulo msebenzi. Empilweni sifunda size sife kokunye sifunda ngama phutha esiwenzile or enziwe ngabanye abantu. Ujita Uma kukhona ashaya khona ifambo i think ukushiya I scene of crime un attended hence he was the first responder but then his reasons are justified ngokwami. We need not act like le complaint babebizwele amaswidi, surely they were exhausted, attending a shooting in progress complaint akuwona umdlalo so asiyeke kwenza ngathi ama phoyisa ango jack of all trades. They work under pressure to make sure that the country's peace is maintained
Washo uKelly wathi "Ngiyathemb' uyabona Sofea khon' empini Ngeke baskhone Linga shon' emini" Song have meanings and this just proves ukuthi she will fight not to be jailed🚮 Schacha sa Bheki sies🚮🚮🚮🚮
Anyone who says there is a cover up which involves this guy and Mosia is greatly mistaken.Cover up of a crime scene involves lot of thinking and planning,these guys are not capable of any of that.
I'mfar from being a police or cime expert but according to my understading (or common sense even), shooting someone is a crime thus the place of the incidedent should be treated as a crime sene from the word go. Especially if they don't even know the circumstances behind that incident. correct me if i'm wrong, but it sounds like these people wee just incompetent nje
The problem is that when an official attends the scene they pocket their hands and also fold them when you ask questions they just disappear to the bakkie now he is alone to answer
@@kgomotsorabaji6111you hit it on the nail theŕe Kgomotso. That's exactly what Mosia and company did when they arrived on the scene. Fold their arms and listened instead of doing their job.
I like Mthethwa's assertiveness in refusing to disclose his highest level of education. I understand Mshololo wants to establish the level of competence he has/had and for any expert witness, qualifications are always scrutinized. But she should also understand that with our SA police, asking that kind of question is very intimidating. Rather she just asks specifically about his qualifications/rank as a Police Officer.
Was Senzo not killed on the way to hospital again it might be that after the shotting in the house that Senzo was still alive and maybe he could have survived but it will spell beans so they have to finish the job
Mshololo with qualifications…. 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ In SA every crime scene is attended by Constables 👮♀️…. Why they make it kuthi ngathi kuse America 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
Zuma told you that state consists of three components and you dismissed him, Legal, Parliament and Cabinet. Legal is not immune to friendship, gossiping, factions, bribes or corruption 🤔 amongst the Attorneys and leadership. All profession has Ethical conduct , but when it comes to legal division 🤫🤫🤫🤫many question 🤔 are not answered
It is his attitude .How can he refuse to disclose his level his level of education ?with 5years work experience he should have done better..This is sad .Incompetent constable.
How do you call a person who's just as helpless as you to come look after a house where thiefs, shooting and a killing a person where a robbery has just occurred. When seven people couldn't defend themselves what's Themba going to do by himself if they had came back Tjo... I'm so defeated 😔this is so unbelievable. The cops were just invested in the drama more than doing their job.... Don't police work on suspicions because I would have been very suspicious Themba is brave (I'M sure his a veteran 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😩
Kelly in the Netflix says the suspect(s)pointed the gun at her but Tumelo says the suspect pointed the gun at them...meaning thy were all gathered at the same spot or thy were grouped..then y the suspect pointed at Kelly when she & senzo thy were about to walked out..#episode 1 & 2.'
Mr Mosia is brought up again. Very, very poor training of these officers this should be investigated. The people at the top were barking orders and remotely commandeering the whole investigation . These were very junior and untrained officers at the time. They didn't even know who was at the crime scene, very questionable time and record keeping. These officers can't even recall what happened.
I personally think the judge is involved in the battle ground. He's asking the witness determinative and suggestive questions which should be asked by the lawyers themselves. Am not happy
I do believe that all family was in hospital.. wonke umuntu wayefuna ukuyozanelisa ukuthi usenzo kungenzeka avuke esbhedlela..and efuna ukweseka ukelly
Mshololo is all about qualifications and merit she is exposing our public sector for employing unqualified people with no merits... love this woman's work.
she is very smart
Was Kelly ever questioned?
Forget about the death of the Queen of UK, this is more relevant and vital to us Africans. We want justice for Senzo.😢😢
Very true
Lies will always back fire...now Mr Mosia and Mthethwaz testimonies are so different and time of arrival are a mix
I suspect Mosia here is the culprit, because now the court have been told that Mosia came before Ndlovu, uzolinya iqiniso uMosia
@@bongiwegumede4311 I
Kubi la. Kinesandla semfene
These police officers bungled this case. One of the people in the house killed Senzo. Period.
According to my knowledge when someone is shot there is a pool of blood but here there was only drops of blood so it's clear that the scene was cleaned before the police arrived and that the killer was in the house
True
Correct! @ Leeroy Klassen I think you and I we can be CID's they must give us kind of job😜
@@AaminahShellyzia5995 I also think so don't you think we must start our own PI company
As a medical officer who has had lot of gunshot calls ,some scenes don't have blood ,you even struggle to find the gunshot wound, especially when theres no exit wound ,most people suffer from internal bleeding and only few drops come out
@@mbaliprecious5821 okay I get you but there on that scene was blood but as I've said only drops of blood
Mshololo is my King... ❤️❤️❤️😍
She ain't all that just that the prosecutor is weak sometimes the judge has to defend his witness.
How do you call a person who's just as helpless as you to come look after a house where thiefs, shooting and a killing a person where a robbery has just occurred.
When seven people couldn't defend themselves what's Themba going to do by himself if they had came back
Tjo... I'm so defeated 😔this is so unbelievable.
The cops were just invested in the drama more than doing their job.... Don't police work on suspicions because I would have been very suspicious
Themba is brave (I'M sure his a veteran 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😩
Thanks u very much miss zandile mshololo usuyibekile induku ebandla
I'm so over this case.... I wish we leaved in the US. The Khumalo's and everyone who was in the house including the cops that were paid to mess this ish up would be long sent to jail.....
Which US??...there are cases which happened in about 30 years ago and still not solved how ever I'm not comparing South Africas technological development and the Justice system
Sometimes you have to just fight for change in your country other than wishing to be another
It is so amazing that five people are arrested and the claimed that They have killed Senzo In this Case only 2 people entered the house and shot Senzo This people they are Profesional crooks They were driving this Police to and from to confuse them sothat they can drive them to dance for their music Don't forget this people are performers
Exactly these are evil people eesh
Who killed Tupac ? By the way that happened in the US .
i used to critized advocate Mshololo bt la mmmmhh i salute her nge profession yakhe, wayepheka indoda ngobhojwane yajuluka yavuma yaphika...
Leli bhinca lakwaMthethwa😂🤣...lisenkingeni
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣ibhinca kusho abantu!
When she says," Forget the nurse I want Makhumalo"🤭 Mshololo
How is possible that someone was shot in the house. When the police arrived for the first time, there was no blood nothing at the house... Even malume said he knows nothing but the people of the house went to the hospital. Then the police go to hospital to identify/confirm the body... This doesn't make any sense 🤷♀️
Now it is very very clear tht no one came into the house to murder anyone the murderer was inside the house.
Yes
Love you Mshololo,you know how to get the truth from someone who hide it,Mr Mthethwa hide something
I don't think so, ukuthi nje u rude into engiybona kuye, his too himself 😂😂
Hawu...Mr Mthethwa is speaking honesty even confirms that Mr Mosia have lied ...the one who was hiding some details is Mosia
@@bongiwegumede4311 I guess this Mthethwa guy is being honest, he's just full of Zulu patriarchal tendencies disrespecting the advocate coz she's female. Bathathe Mshololo girl bathathe!
@@bongiwegumede4311 true
This policeman is really jeopardize the police force. He is so so incompetence if I was him I would resigned after this trial.
I am no longer interested to be police officer after watching this
This case is exposing bheki Cele how our saps are fools
1:54:00 - 1:55:00 answer is, she was going to Inyanga📍
A maphoisa Aku pay roll ka Chicco naye me Khumalos family they must rot in jail pls
Something makes it sound like when the police artived even for the first time the scene had already been cleaned.
Ya I think they were called late after there were done
True
kusobala ukuthi kuningi okwenzeka before kufike lama phoyisa. imagine udutsulwe kodwa lutho igazi. 😭
The problem is that even when they did not do observation to see if there was evidence
Why did they clean the scene at the first place , because they didn't killed senzo, who clean the scene and why? This is my South Africa if you don't have money they arrest you , those police officers they know the truth
You are missing the point Mthethwa you don't need to be told what happened where you arrived to the venue reported you needed to observe yourself even the whole yard. I watch ID channel you see police and detective analysing scenes where there is no one to tell them anything. People take careers to quench hunger not being passionate💔.
Thwi most police officers are not pationate with this policing it's hunger that made them to be officers
He really annoyed me when he said I was waiting for someone to tell me what's happening. Kanti what kind of training do these people get in the police college 😳😳😳
@@masalakwinda agreed 100%.
How can Mthetwa say he thot it was not a crime scene yet he saw a blood in the house .
Shooting incident report should tell anyone with brains that it's a crime scene.
😆 🤣 😂
He said he saw blood second time
The judge is soo bored...
This guys im sure wishes just give Mshololo a big clap...
How can he not want answer a question about his level of education 💁♂️
It's not necessary though, how is it helping with the case if not to belittle the witness.
I think Adv Mshololo’s point is competency,whether he was qualified enough to be able to handle that scene.
Silly question 🙄
Lendoda ayifundile uyambona nje
@@nathanielncube7593 well asingamehluleli singazi, okubalulekile Ukuthi he was trained for his job, if he wasn't competent to be a police officer ngabe akekho kulo msebenzi. Empilweni sifunda size sife kokunye sifunda ngama phutha esiwenzile or enziwe ngabanye abantu. Ujita Uma kukhona ashaya khona ifambo i think ukushiya I scene of crime un attended hence he was the first responder but then his reasons are justified ngokwami. We need not act like le complaint babebizwele amaswidi, surely they were exhausted, attending a shooting in progress complaint akuwona umdlalo so asiyeke kwenza ngathi ama phoyisa ango jack of all trades. They work under pressure to make sure that the country's peace is maintained
Now I am so interested to hear about the post mortem results
they must arrest this guy he knw the truth
I will never trust the SAPS anymore 💔💔💔
This mthethwa guy is hiding something, senzo was killed by somebody who was in the house
Vuka Senzo Vuka !!!!
No manh this is unacceptable in so many levels nd m sure this guy didn't even hv a note pad to take notes etc
Just imagine such incompetence 👎👎👎
Umsebenzi we interpreter unzima 😢😢😢
When Mshololo says lets do the same as in the other courts, doesn't she think this is how this man talk everywhere?
What are they teaching the students they were with if they were so reckless.
Simple they were teaching them corruption and or negligence. The show must go on
No man they must arrest laphoyisa 😳 the stories are changing.he remembers jiki jiki he doesn’t remember anything Ayy 😂🤚🏽 Bakhokheliwe laba
I agree lock the officers then they will take their job serous.
you can say that on this platform but believe me it's not easy
😄😄😄
Mosia said he took all the family members to the bedroom.
VERY INSIGHTFUL ADVOCATE MSHOLOLO
THUMPS UP
It's that Kelly told the police that Senzo Meyiwa has died yet she thinks he was not known. When she said that how did she expect them to know him?
This intern constable is very Rude and evasive. Mshololo must attack
Mlume Mshololo Mlume !!!
😄😄😄
Washo uKelly wathi "Ngiyathemb' uyabona
Sofea khon' empini
Ngeke baskhone
Linga shon' emini"
Song have meanings and this just proves ukuthi she will fight not to be jailed🚮
Schacha sa Bheki sies🚮🚮🚮🚮
I'm sorry to Lough bt le iyahlekisa
Mr Mthethwa ay indoda le🤣🤣✌️🙌🙌ubaphendula nj impela
Lo Mthethwa wakho unenkani mara.👎👎👎
@@mzomanci6322 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙈
This whiteness want advocateTeffo
Truth shall set you free. Just tell the truth sir.
As a witness you can never agree to someone elses statement?
Anyone who says there is a cover up which involves this guy and Mosia is greatly mistaken.Cover up of a crime scene involves lot of thinking and planning,these guys are not capable of any of that.
What if they're playing dumb just for this case?
@@Thando_Khumalo ,they not playing, believe me when I say they are serious,seriously dumb.
@@lwandlezondi9658 loool
This uyaphapha, his answers are long ,uphendula izinto ezingabuzwanga
Kelly is driving a man home... Who was the man)? She was not crying for Senzo who is lying dead on a stretcher. I don't get it. Sad
Power to Teffo
Khuphuka lapho Nyambose
I'mfar from being a police or cime expert but according to my understading (or common sense even), shooting someone is a crime thus the place of the incidedent should be treated as a crime sene from the word go. Especially if they don't even know the circumstances behind that incident. correct me if i'm wrong, but it sounds like these people wee just incompetent nje
The problem is that when an official attends the scene they pocket their hands and also fold them when you ask questions they just disappear to the bakkie now he is alone to answer
@@kgomotsorabaji6111you hit it on the nail theŕe Kgomotso. That's exactly what Mosia and company did when they arrived on the scene. Fold their arms and listened instead of doing their job.
This police officer is so ignorant 🙄
"Ngyafuna ukuchaza kodwa ngingqena ukuphum endleleni"
🤔khon into e off
Definitely Ntobeko. This one is hiding something.
Awkahle wena
How much did these policemen got paid to cover up what is shockingly obvious?😢😢😢😢😢
The Judges' 'coffee' is too cold for my liking. 😵💫😵💫😆
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I like Mthethwa's assertiveness in refusing to disclose his highest level of education. I understand Mshololo wants to establish the level of competence he has/had and for any expert witness, qualifications are always scrutinized. But she should also understand that with our SA police, asking that kind of question is very intimidating. Rather she just asks specifically about his qualifications/rank as a Police Officer.
lies lies lies lies. SA Police.😞😞😞😞
Ku shubile ma South africa
Ho thata lefatsheng
🤔some sacrifice has been made ngomzimba ka Senzo come on south African the Khumalos must answers 😭😭 this is painful
the truth shall set you free SGT khona okushaya manzi
Was Senzo not killed on the way to hospital again it might be that after the shotting in the house that Senzo was still alive and maybe he could have survived but it will spell beans so they have to finish the job
I think you might be correct
Could be true,I though that too 😢
But was Makhumalo in the room when Senzo was murdered ?
Wait for witnesses we don't know we were not there.
If you are a criminal and this guy and Mosia shows up after you left a scene,celebrations for getting away with crime.
I will rejoice
His representing saps correctly this is the attitude they have.
I wish if those hard question was against traffic police. Eish those people give us hard time
This guy is lying 🤣
😂😂😂i love mtshololo yabila indoda ibuzwa uba bayishiyekanjani indlu bonke bahambe baye sibhedlela bengacingi uba khona umntu onobuya azosusa ubufakazi hayi ndiyamnqina lomfazi 💃🏽💃🏽
When all khumalos family go to the hospital where were Kelly's kids
Why would they clean a crime scene
Ayy they must all go to jail 🥴 coz they’re all hiding a lot .none of these stories make sense and the stories keep changing
Mshololo put it deeper 😂😂
Mshololo with qualifications…. 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
In SA every crime scene is attended by Constables 👮♀️….
Why they make it kuthi ngathi kuse America 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
Ziyakhala ke manje.
These people who were in the house are animals they nearly disposed Senzos body.
Contradiction between the times of arriving on the scene, oh my word this Cop is compromising himself
Lol this witness really doesn't like that house especially its kitchen😂😂
Hahaha yaaaa
Zuma told you that state consists of three components and you dismissed him, Legal, Parliament and Cabinet. Legal is not immune to friendship, gossiping, factions, bribes or corruption 🤔 amongst the Attorneys and leadership. All profession has Ethical conduct , but when it comes to legal division 🤫🤫🤫🤫many question 🤔 are not answered
I said yesterday this witness is a dam liar .Manje umama kamakhumalo usephumaphi?
26:29 kkkkkk🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣ndihla ndisiva kuthwa abantu baya ngingiza,ndizivele ngokwam
Mpheke kancane Nkosazane enhle Mshololo uyaphekana
I don't think ukuthi yingoba bekhokheliwe bt my suggest yingoba nabo basencupheni ofakazi balelicala alikho lula.bangahle babulawe nabo.and nabo bayakubona lokho.
Advocate she is asking stupid questions
😳😳Which question is stupidity
Which question is stupid there WT?
@WT Tsekkkkkk shlama ndini🚮
🤣🤣🤣🤣🙈
No stupid questions here.. She is doing her JOB...something the this witness failed dismally (to do)
It is his attitude .How can he refuse to disclose his level his level of education ?with 5years work experience he should have done better..This is sad .Incompetent constable.
Mshololo lona msangano shame
is there any possibility that a case can have 2 dockets?
This was the first of its kind.
Yes it's possible, but not case but scene to have 2 CAS. That helps in choosing the scenario that makes sense
ag but this translator keep on saying ibambe lapho to Mthetwa and he doesn't do the same to Mshololo or Maumela isn't unfair?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😅😂😅😂😅
How do you call a person who's just as helpless as you to come look after a house where thiefs, shooting and a killing a person where a robbery has just occurred.
When seven people couldn't defend themselves what's Themba going to do by himself if they had came back
Tjo... I'm so defeated 😔this is so unbelievable.
The cops were just invested in the drama more than doing their job.... Don't police work on suspicions because I would have been very suspicious
Themba is brave (I'M sure his a veteran 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😩
Kelly in the Netflix says the suspect(s)pointed the gun at her but Tumelo says the suspect pointed the gun at them...meaning thy were all gathered at the same spot or thy were grouped..then y the suspect pointed at Kelly when she & senzo thy were about to walked out..#episode 1 & 2.'
Exactly my point....
i am only here for the MR JUDGE's hair . . . o ratile go kama moririr rre yoo🤣
The state is running this case like the mafia!
Mr Mosia is brought up again. Very, very poor training of these officers this should be investigated. The people at the top were barking orders and remotely commandeering the whole investigation . These were very junior and untrained officers at the time. They didn't even know who was at the crime scene, very questionable time and record keeping. These officers can't even recall what happened.
Uyalaz iqiniso u Mthethwa nangendlel achaza ngayo he knew something but I trust advocate Mshololo she may keep it up
Kunamapunge amaningi la. Kodwa ke sekuyajikelezwa nje. Abalande abakwa Khumalo, and the five witnesses who were in the house.
No level of education for mthetwa
nidlalangathi Mzansi wonke umuntu yaybona ukuthi i-translator yenzani
I personally think the judge is involved in the battle ground. He's asking the witness determinative and suggestive questions which should be asked by the lawyers themselves. Am not happy
we all need a lawyer 1day either one day or another after we die. one way or another bakhona abazisola
Since this case has started I've been on mshololo s side,she knows her job.hiqh qualified advocate
😂😂nd he has started stammering
Unhappily ubukeka ezolandela kahle lelicala ngifuna aphmelel
Umshololo ubukeka ezolandela kahle lelicala ngifisa aphumelele 4rm nathi
'Aiy angazi'
Did Mshololo say Motor Vehe-kclieee😂😂😂
I feel lik this guy doesn't want to talk
Futhi uyadelela
I do believe that all family was in hospital.. wonke umuntu wayefuna ukuyozanelisa ukuthi usenzo kungenzeka avuke esbhedlela..and efuna ukweseka ukelly
Mthethwa vs Mshololo,man to man