What was amazing was as this was an attempt at a third Triple Crown in as many years, many sportswriters were claiming the Triple Crown had become "too easy." Those would turn out to be famous last words because it would not be until 36 years after this Belmont Stakes happened that we finally would have a Triple Crown winner in American Pharoah in 2015.
19 year old jockey got caught up in all the pre race festivities leading up to Belmont day. He moved way to quickly on Bid against an insane pace of 23 & 47. He could've easily wrapped up behind the early pace and still stayed close enough to launch a powerful kick. Was a shame seeing him fade at the 1/8th pole.
Franklyn had no business being on that horse..i blame the connections and Bud Delp. Especially after the Florida Derby fiasco...huge red flag. EVERYBODY in racing then was saying "why does he have that kid on that horse?" Still say they were trying to repeat the whole "Steve Cauthen" thing from the year before. Cauthen was one of the greatest jockeys ever. Ronnie franklyn was no Steve Cauthen.
1979 and i was there. I did pick Coastal. Spectacular Bid and the needle story....he was going for triple crown. I think he finished 3d....it was long time ago and my brain is slowing down.
Yup, he finished 3rd. Many people were dubious that a safety pin mishap did occur, or that it was the cause of Bid’s less-stellar-than-usual performance. We’ll never know. An awful shame that Bid should experience an off-day when about to win the Triple Crown. He truly was a spectacular talent.
Chas Delp One of the best single season of all time. Closing out his career with a walkover. Shoemaker said he is the best horse he ever rode. Your grandfather was one heck of a trainer!
All the more reason to dispense with the "tease 'em with their brilliance as a three-year-old and off to the breeding shed" nonsense we see all too often.
Pace mistakes are very well documented at the Belmont, Ronnie & Kent are examples of how otherwise great riders can lose the Belmont at the half mile pole. It’s tempting to push onward, they both did and came up empty at the sixteenth.
Bid changes leads in the stretch at 9:45. He lost because Franklin gunned him out of the gate, and used up too much energy stalking a horse who was coming back to them in any event.
To hard ? He had no business sitting on that horses back Maybe he would’ve had more for the Belmont if he didn’t hit him so many times in the Preakness when it was never necessary at any point of the race He rode that horse terribly in the Preakness and Belmont especially
Best horse to never win the Triple Crown. Franklin gets savaged for his ride, but this is how most horses have won the Triple Crown going to the lead and controlling the pace. Bid never changed his lead during the entire race, which never gave him a breather in the race. In both his 1 1/2 mile races he failed to win. Had Franklin been able to get Bid to relax somewhat more, he might have had enough left in the stretch. Coastal was fresh and that certainly helped him, especially with Bid sweating before the race and a bit on edge and stirred up. A more experienced rider (like Shoemaker) no doubt would have benefitted Bid though as Franklin did admit he didn’t think the pace was that fast ( but is 3/4 in 1:11 and change really that fast; mile in 1:36- I don’t think it’s that fast). Ronnie loved this horse hugely and was crushed by this defeat, I don’t think he ever recovered from it ( never rode Bid again or had another G1 win). How he was treated after the race was appalling with the garbage being thrown at him, the swearing and more. He went from the highest high, to the lowest low in 2:28 and change. Spectacular Bid went on to a brilliant 4 year old campaign, one of the best in racing history and is regard as one of the greatest thoroughbreds in history. Ronnie Franklin a young inexperienced rider who was only 19 to a life of depression and drugs for which he lost his riding license. Sometimes this sport can be so harsh. Sad that he died so young. RIP Ronnie.
Poor Ronnie was one of the unfortunate jockeys- Kent Desormeaux on Real Quiet and Stewart Elliott on Smarty Jones - who moved too early and too fast with the best horse in the 12-furlong Belmont and lost the race (and ultimately the Triple Crown). Franklin was less experienced than the others and perhaps had more of an excuse.
Not Franklin's fault, the fractions were not real fast so it probably was the distance. He won many races the next year but NONE were at a mile and a half!! Just a coincidence?? I think not.
He was the worst ( Cassidy) I actually had a drink when they replaced him. Won many races in the NYRA circuit as a groom and foreman. He might sound good in one big race , but everyday races he sounded like he was reading a eulogy!
He wasn't terrible 😔 but not 🙀🚫 quite as good as his predecessors chic Anderson and my friend and neighbor from the old neighborhood of midtown East ➡️ Manhattan Dave Johnson who was just a great super guy !
This is the most disappointing race in my life. I was 23 years old and loved Bid so much. To watch him lose this race was heartbreaking. To this day, it hurts too much to watch this race.
I turned to my mom and said, "Way too soon." And she had her hand over her mouth, and without lowering it, said, "...yep." . We were both crying by the time Coastal broke the wire.
After all this time, it looks incredible that Bid lost this race. Ronnie Franklin was still green and he didn't get Bid relaxed at all. I know it sounds silly, but if there should be 2 more triple crowned horses thru 2014, they would have have been Native Dancer and Spectacular Bid.
I disagree with just about everybody below. The pace wasn't blazing. 47 3/5 is reasonable for this race. 1.11 and change for 3/4 is 2 sec slower than Secretariat's Belmont. The Bid made his move, but wasn't up to it. I lost $100 on this race, but I don't blame the jockey.
Dennis Secret Agreed. This was not that fast of a pace. Final time was actually slow, 2:28+. I tend to think Bid was tired from his gruelling schedule, and the fact he didn’t change leads (maybe due to soreness in his foot from the safety pin). He was also sweating and a bit on edge before the race, which no doubt wasted some of his energy. Also he never won either race at 1 1/2 miles, the Belmont or the Jockey Club Gold Cup over this same surface (with Shoemaker), yes the later against Affirmed a 4 year old, but he ran that race stalking and made several attempts to pass Affirm unsuccessfully. That might suggest he was a brilliant horse from 6f-1 11/4 miles, but 11/2 miles may have been beyond his reach.
@@robertsmale3714 that is an excellent point. About JCGC and 1 1/2 miles. Also although he was somewhat excitable normally, i thought he was exceptionally amped up before this race. Who knows maybe his foot was bothering him.
Ronnie messed that race up for the Bid. He did not do what he always done before and set a pace then Charge at the end. Instead Coastal did. If Bid would of laid back with Coastal, Bid would of won the Tripple Crown.
I hadn't seen the post parade in a long long time, so I had forgotten how on the muscle Bid was. I think he was rank in this race. I don't think he was hustled to the front. It looks like Franklin was trying to take him up, but couldn't. Then it looks like he decided to let Bid go, but by then he'd probably left his race behind, between the post parade and the early portion here. Franklin was into the whip before they hit the stretch. A more experienced jockey may have been able to settle him. Hard to know. It looks like this race started to be lost the moment they stepped on the track. He's still one of the all time greats!
I agree. He was really amped up from the crowd noise and i dont think he was able to really relax during the race. That expenditure of energy is going to show in those final furlongs.
Secreteriat wasn't unbeaten was he? He lost 7 tike in 23 races. The Bid only lost 4 times in 30 races. Secretariat lost his last race before the Triple Crown and his first race afterward. After the Belmont, Spectacular Bid lost only 1 more race, the 1 1/2 mile Jockey Club Gold Cup by three parts of a length to 4 year old Affirmed. In 1980, as a 4 year old, Bid had the best year any thoroughbred has ever had, before or since. If Secretariat had run as a 4 year old I don't believe he would have had the dominating year Bid had
@@rwbbpaok In what way was Bid's 1980 season better than Citations' 1948 season where Citation won 19 of 20 races, the triple crown, defeated the best 3-year old and older horses in the nation, including hall of fame horses and those ranked in the top 100 horses of the 20th century? How as it better than Dr. Fager's 1968 season where Fager became the only horse to ever win all 4 championships and did so while carrying an average of 133 1/4 pounds? 133 1/4 is an _average_ of 4 1/2 pound more than what Bid carried on average in 1980. Unlike Bid, Fager carried these imposts against hall of fame horses and those ranked in the top 100 horses of the 20th century. That average of 133 1/4 pounds is an _average_ of 4 1/2 pounds more than what Bid carried in 1980. That's the kind of weight differential that 4 year olds got assigned when competing against 3 year olds. How is Bid's 1980 season better than Round Table's 1958 season where he won 14 races, 3 championships, set many records, and carried huge imposts? Bid had a chance to compete against Winter's Tale, the hottest East Coast horse in the nation in 1980 in the Marlboro Cup. However, Bid got scratched from that race after being assigned 136 pounds. Clearly, Bid wasn't the second coming of Forego, Dr. Fager, or Round Table when it came to carrying big imposts against top opponents.
Perhaps I should have said best season since I've been immersed in the game, which has been since 1977. Either way, it's a pleasure to reply to someone with your depth of thoroughbred knowledge, there aren't as many of us as there used to be
I love that everyone is criticising Franklin. It was Bud Delp who lost this race because he told Franklin to ride the Bid like Secretariat. How come no one criticised Turcotte for going out in even faster tractions than Franklin? Well, because Big Red won and The Bid lost-this is how fools analyse races-if you win, you’re a hero and if you lose, you’re a bum. How very convenient.
It was too early because Bid lost. People always make excuses when their favorite loses. No one knows what the outcome would have been if Bid or, for that matter, Coastal had run the race differently. That's why they run horse races rather than determining the outcome on paper. Bottom line is Bid just lost.
I would have to disagree with the previous comment. The fact that the Triple Crown is run over 3 races of differing distances, makes it the challenge that it is. I do not subscribe to the theory that the Belmont distance should be reduced to 1 & 1/4 miles. In fact I would go as to far as to say that it was scandalous to reduce the Jockey Club Gold Cup by a 1/4 mile! In France the authorities sanitized the Prix Du Jockey by shortening the distance. No longer the true test. Affirmed was a true great winning over distances from 5 furlongs up to 1 & 1/2 miles.
The last time the JCGC was even twelve furlongs was in 1989, and some blamed the distance being too long for Easy Goer to come back at eleven furlongs for the BC Classic. The Breeders' Cup even tried the marathon at 14 furlongs and the quality of horses who could handle that distance was so weak it's no longer part of the program. Too bad: we'll never see a top handicap horse such as a Forego, Kelso or Secretariat-slayer Prove Out, or stamina-blessed three year old like Arts and letters perform at two miles.
The Distance was not the issue...Coastal was a Fresh Horse entering this Race also...Bid Beat Coastal by 3 Lengths later on at this 12 F in the Jock Club...Bid Lost the Belmont for Numerous reasons which i feel had nothing to do with the Distance...He only tried 12 F 2 times in Career and 2nd time he ran a competitive close 2nd to an All time Great in Affirmed who benefited from historical SLOW fractions and he was also Bids Elder...At age 4 i personally feel Bid would have been VERY tough to beat by Most Great Horses in History
Little did we know back then that this was going to be the norm for the next 36 years. Close to a Triple Crown but no cigar. Amazing that it looked like there was going to be 3 straight Triple Crown winners.
No cigar but at least we had a Cigar A perfect season running a full schedule in the handicap division is WAY tougher than the Triple Crown, it's only been done 3 times (Tom Fool, Spectacular Bid, Cigar)
"The greatest horse to ever look through a bridle" the Bid never changed leads the entire mile and a half in this race. Injured of course. It was the only time Spectacular Bid was ever passed in the stretch. And he still holds the world record for the Classic distance of 1 1/4 miles. An incredible 157 4/5
The Sarge summed it up best: If Spectacular Bid and Coastal faced each other 100 times. The Bid would win 99 of those contests.The biggest upset in horse racing since the term was coined almost a century ago.
Horrible ride by the kid, but cool move by Reuben Hernandez ! One of my favorite jocks back in the day. Was always good in distance races and if you let him walk on the lead , forget it.!!
I guess any horse who loses the Belmont you can say what if. But it’s different with this horse he went 10 for 10 next year what if he won this race where would he be ranked all time?
Obviously a young rider that perhaps got as excited as the horse before the race. To set those fractions and move that early was no doubt the detriment of the horse. Coastal was definitely not the better horse that day.
I thought that Spectacular Bid had won the race and the Triple Crown, but Coastal came out of nowhere and finished first at the stretch. Spectacular Bid finished third behind Coastal and Golden Act.
In all honesty, it just wasn't The 'Bid's day. A strong pattern emerged over the years of 3yo's running a double top, and then bouncing. The stress of the Triple Crown takes it's toll. 1 of the toughest challenges in all of sports. Fresh & improving horses often do well in the Belmont. Coastal was 4-1 -- not 40-1. The result was sad. But not "unpredictable." As a professional, it's Franklin's job to put it all on his shoulders. It certainly would have been ideal to have him be slightly off the pace and wait a bit longer. But that's life. That's racing. The best horse doesn't always win. And a different ride might have made the finish closer, but not necessarily DIFFERENT.
El jockey Franklin lo hizo a propósito corrió a bid como sprinter , para al final no tuviera fuerzas para detener a Coastal. Esa una carrera preparada. Había mucho dinero apostado al Spectacular bid.
The most outrageous Belmont Stakes in history. I still get pissed off over this race after all these years. Franklin is in the running for the worst jockey of all time.
Good afternoon. Ronnie Franklin not "threw away the race" as we venezuelan people used to say in cases like 111th. Belmont Stakes. Ronnie Franklin threw away a Triple Crown he had won aboard an exceptional horse named Spectacular Bid. An inmature and misconduct person (before the race he fought with Angel Cordero Jr in the Jockeys Room) Franklin rode like he was in a Preakness Stakes, and when the field turned for home, Bid was already tired! If Steve Cauthen, so young as Franklin, but with a thirty-year-old maturity jockey, would have ridden Bid, the result would have been different. But in 1979, Cauthen was not the same winning-jockey due to weight problems. Greetings from Ciudad Guayana, Venezuela.
Good evening. Ronnie Franklin not only "threw away the race" as we venezuelan people used to say in cases like 1979 Belmont Stakes. Ronnie Franklin threw away a Triple Crown which he had won aboard an exceptional horse named Spectacular Bid. An immature and misconduct person (before the race he fought with Angel Cordero Jr. in the Jockeys Room) Franklin rode like if he was in a Preakness Stakes, and when the field turned for home, Bid was already tired! If Steve Cauthen, so young as Ronnie Franklin, but with a thirty year-old jockey maturity, would have ridden Bid, the result would have been different. But in 1979, Cauthen was not the same winning-jockey due to weight problems. Greetings from Venezuela.
The Belmont is just too long the stretch never ends, this race and the one in 2004 were about the same race the same thing with 2014, there is a lot of things going on, but you cant go out to fast, in 2004 I cant remember who was on Smarty but he ran an awful race, Smarty should have won that race by 3, the new York stuff aside that ace is too long and you have to have the right jockey.
I thought of the similarities with Smarty also. Smarty was pressured and never able to relax, expending too much energy. Left him unable to counter Birdstones surge.
This was the dumbest ride ever! I'm not trying to hear the "he was injured" excuse. His trainer and rider tried to pull a "Secretariat" and ruined an all time greats chance at the Triple Crown. Wow!
Spectacular Bid was given the most egregiously bad ride ever by jockey Ron Franklin who never rode the horse again after this race. Bill Shoemaker rode Bid after and as a 4yr old colt in 1980 was the fastest horse ever including a walkover in the JCGC.
WHY would you All of a Sudden Take The Bid out to Challenge and Take The lead in the First 1/4 of the Race?...And at 12F....People have Theories including Connections wanting to Break Secretariats record...My theory is that this race was Much too BIG for Ronnie franklin and he was afraid to LOSE considering all the Circumstances and he decided to go and get the lead Very early so he can not make any mistakes from off the pace...Choice he made was a Disaster
Having never ridden a thoroughbred myself, I'm not sure that I am qualified to comment. However, given the manor of his victories in the Kentucky Derby and Preakness, Ronnie Franklin should perhaps have saved the horse and really kicked on for home in the last half-mile. Going off at such a blistering pace was not the best idea?
trackside77 You are 100% right. There was a lot of talk back then about the Bid being as good or maybe better than Secretariat and Ronnie Franklin got caught up and instead of beating the field he was running against, he wanted to beat Secretariat and there's only one Secretariat
Based on times alone the pace was really not that fast even for the distance. However, Franklin needlessly pushing Bid was merely the last straw. Track condition, the safety pin and Bid's campaign were the other factors in this perfect storm. If only 3 of these conditions were present you probably have your 3rd Triple Crown winner in a row. In Bid's career, fractions like he threw down here were merely a morning workout.
Idiotic ride by Ronnie Franklin. No need for Bid to go that fast that early going twelve furlongs. There's a reason why Franklin never rode another top horse after this.
This looks like Jockey error, totally forgot his horse would be running a longer race, and he chased the front runner, instead of holding the horse back and saving energy he burnt it out 200meters to go, had he conserve the horse it would have be 3 TC in a row..
Absolutely, Bid SHOULD have Won!!! It still HURTS to watch this Race!!!! However, Spectacular Bid was a FANTASTIC Horse, and he went Undefeated in his (4)-Year-Old Season, in 1980!!!😍 The Bid, just an AMAZING Horse!! I wonder did the Crowd noise affect Bid?🤔
Bid was robbed of the Triple Crown and you can see it clearly. The Jockey sent him to the front too soon. If he had held back along with Coastal then put him to it after the turn, Bid would of won it. Watch each race and the Jockey put Bid through hell always staying to the outside. Sad.
Franklin's ride aboard specBid in this belmont stakes remains horse racing greatest failure! It's so egregious it amounts to animal cruelty! He never rode specBid again after this race. SpecBid went unbeaten as 4yr old
Well folks dont worry I got Ronnie back for the Bid.In 2007, I cracked Ron in the eardrum for calling me a foul name.He had to have surgery and was out of the saddle for six weeks.Busted his eardrum.Shame on you Ronnie, iam a nice person and you acted like a turd.
Good afternoon. Ronnie Franklin not only "threw away the race" as we venezuelan people used to say in cases like 111th. Belmont Stakes. Ronnie Franklin threw away a Triple Crown he had won aboard an exceptional horse named Spectacular Bid. An immature and misconduct person (before the race he fought with Angel Cordero Jr in the Jockeys Room) Franklin rode like he were in a Preakness Stakes, and when the field turned for home, Bid was already tired! If Steve Cauthen, so young as Franklin, but with a thirty-year-old maturity jockey, would have ridden Bid, the result would have been different. But in 1979, Cauthen was not the same winning-jockey due to weight problems. Greetings from Ciudad Guayana, Venezuela.
@@Caroni100, I agree!! Steve Cauthen, who Won the Triple Crown in 1978, onboard the GREAT "Affirmed," should have been onboard The Bid, and probably would have Won the 1979 Triple Crown!!!😎 Steve, would have been (19) Years Old, but he was SO mature for his Age!!! Ronnie Franklin, blew it!!!!😏
@The cisco kid wasnt a friend of mine, oh, I did not know that he had weight problems. Steve, was only (18) years old, when he won the Triple Crown, in 1978, while riding the GREAT "Affirmed" to victory!😍 It's ashame, being that he was so young, that he had to sacrifice his career, in America, due to weight issues.
Let's not forget that at the Belmont in the Barn stall spectacular bed had a safety pin in he's right front hoof that was in bedded in the horse hoof corrum ouch try running on that to this day no one knows anything about it
What was amazing was as this was an attempt at a third Triple Crown in as many years, many sportswriters were claiming the Triple Crown had become "too easy." Those would turn out to be famous last words because it would not be until 36 years after this Belmont Stakes happened that we finally would have a Triple Crown winner in American Pharoah in 2015.
Spectacular Bid raced with a nail in his hoof and STILL ran third.
19 year old jockey got caught up in all the pre race festivities leading up to Belmont day. He moved way to quickly on Bid against an insane pace of 23 & 47. He could've easily wrapped up behind the early pace and still stayed close enough to launch a powerful kick. Was a shame seeing him fade at the 1/8th pole.
Franklyn had no business being on that horse..i blame the connections and Bud Delp. Especially after the Florida Derby fiasco...huge red flag. EVERYBODY in racing then was saying "why does he have that kid on that horse?" Still say they were trying to repeat the whole "Steve Cauthen" thing from the year before. Cauthen was one of the greatest jockeys ever. Ronnie franklyn was no Steve Cauthen.
1979 and i was there. I did pick Coastal. Spectacular Bid and the needle story....he was going for triple crown. I think he finished 3d....it was long time ago and my brain is slowing down.
Yup, he finished 3rd. Many people were dubious that a safety pin mishap did occur, or that it was the cause of Bid’s less-stellar-than-usual performance. We’ll never know. An awful shame that Bid should experience an off-day when about to win the Triple Crown. He truly was a spectacular talent.
Still an amazing horse one of the best. Won 9 of 9 races the next year to cement his legacy.
Chas Delp One of the best single season of all time. Closing out his career with a walkover. Shoemaker said he is the best horse he ever rode. Your grandfather was one heck of a trainer!
Ruben Hernandez is my uncle! I was born 10 years after this race.
Chas Delp Hey Chase! Bid was a great horse 🐎
All the more reason to dispense with the "tease 'em with their brilliance as a three-year-old and off to the breeding shed" nonsense we see all too often.
Pace mistakes are very well documented at the Belmont, Ronnie & Kent are examples of how otherwise great riders can lose the Belmont at the half mile pole. It’s tempting to push onward, they both did and came up empty at the sixteenth.
Bid changes leads in the stretch at 9:45. He lost because Franklin gunned him out of the gate, and used up too much energy stalking a horse who was coming back to them in any event.
People were too hard on ronnie franklin, bid was a superb horse, one of the greatest.
To hard ? He had no business sitting on that horses back Maybe he would’ve had more for the Belmont if he didn’t hit him so many times in the Preakness when it was never necessary at any point of the race He rode that horse terribly in the Preakness and Belmont especially
Great ride by a great rider one of the strongest finishers of all time Ruben Hernandez
jesusisnotallright And you are still an irrelevant loser. LOL
he was an excellent rider Richard...he knew those NY tracks...had him in the perfect spot at the top of the stretch...
@@ivanboesky1520 what are your accomplishments? Did you win stakes races and been on tv many times?...didnt think so just stfu
@@randallrhoads3271
Ruben Hernandez
(November 21, 1950 - )
* 16,981 Mounts
* 2,224 Wins (+ 1,412 in Panama)
* 1,991 Seconds
* 2,085 Thirds
* $ 39,934,953 earned
* International Wins: Clásico Internacional del Caribe 1978
* Well done, Champion!
* Best regards from Venezuela
Rubén Hernández
(21 de Noviembre, 1950 - )
* 16,981 Montas
* 2,224 Primeros (+ 1,412 en Panamá)
* 1,991 Segundos
* 2,085 Terceros
* $ 39,934,953 producidos
* Triunfos Internacionales: Clásico Internacional del Caribe 1978
* ¡Bravo, Campeón!
* Saludos desde Venezuela
More so a terrible ride on spectacular bid
Best horse to never win the Triple Crown. Franklin gets savaged for his ride, but this is how most horses have won the Triple Crown going to the lead and controlling the pace. Bid never changed his lead during the entire race, which never gave him a breather in the race. In both his 1 1/2 mile races he failed to win. Had Franklin been able to get Bid to relax somewhat more, he might have had enough left in the stretch. Coastal was fresh and that certainly helped him, especially with Bid sweating before the race and a bit on edge and stirred up. A more experienced rider (like Shoemaker) no doubt would have benefitted Bid though as Franklin did admit he didn’t think the pace was that fast ( but is 3/4 in 1:11 and change really that fast; mile in 1:36- I don’t think it’s that fast). Ronnie loved this horse hugely and was crushed by this defeat, I don’t think he ever recovered from it ( never rode Bid again or had another G1 win). How he was treated after the race was appalling with the garbage being thrown at him, the swearing and more. He went from the highest high, to the lowest low in 2:28 and change. Spectacular Bid went on to a brilliant 4 year old campaign, one of the best in racing history and is regard as one of the greatest thoroughbreds in history. Ronnie Franklin a young inexperienced rider who was only 19 to a life of depression and drugs for which he lost his riding license. Sometimes this sport can be so harsh. Sad that he died so young. RIP Ronnie.
Always is the jockey who take the blame....but he won the Derby and Preakness. They all win and lose.
Rest In Peace Ronnie Franklin, Spectacular Bid's jockey until 1979 Belmont Stakes. He died on March 8, 2018 at 58 victim from a lung cancer.
Wow I didn’t know that
Is it my imagination, or did Ronnie Franklin lose the irons at about the quarter pole?
Poor Ronnie was one of the unfortunate jockeys- Kent Desormeaux on Real Quiet and Stewart Elliott on Smarty Jones - who moved too early and too fast with the best horse in the 12-furlong Belmont and lost the race (and ultimately the Triple Crown). Franklin was less experienced than the others and perhaps had more of an excuse.
specBid at 4 might have been best horse ever
Sorry, but I'll take Secretariat at any age!
@@garythompson8629 Cigar,Little Bold John,Bens Cat and Skip Away were all better horses.
@@lgen2458 Cigar and Skip Away did have sick stretches in their primes
@@garythompson8629 His 1973 season was one for the history books but not quite as good as Spectacular Bid's 1980 or Cigar's 1995
Flightline and Landaluce are the best I've ever seen.
Honestly it just looks like 1 1/2 miles got him
Not Franklin's fault, the fractions were not real fast so it probably was the distance. He won many races the next year but NONE were at a mile and a half!! Just a coincidence?? I think not.
Terrific call by Marshall Cassidy. I would've loved to hear him call a Triple Crown.
He was the worst ( Cassidy) I actually had a drink when they replaced him. Won many races in the NYRA circuit as a groom and foreman. He might sound good in one big race , but everyday races he sounded like he was reading a eulogy!
You never had to stand in an OTB in 1981 with audio only listening to his nondescriptive calls. Horrible announcer.
He wasn't terrible 😔 but not 🙀🚫 quite as good as his predecessors chic Anderson and my friend and neighbor from the old neighborhood of midtown East ➡️ Manhattan Dave Johnson who was just a great super guy !
@@paulveneziano4082 That's great that you knew Dave. He was one of my favorites. "And down the stretch they come!"
RIP Jack Whitaker.
This is the most disappointing race in my life. I was 23 years old and loved Bid so much. To watch him lose this race was heartbreaking. To this day, it hurts too much to watch this race.
I also find it painful to watch.
I turned to my mom and said, "Way too soon." And she had her hand over her mouth, and without lowering it, said, "...yep."
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We were both crying by the time Coastal broke the wire.
@@CinemaDemocratica I agree the should have had a more experienced jockey they would have had a Triple Crown 🏇
I feel ya-I feel the same way watching Easy Goer in the Breeders Cup. Both Bid and EG were victims of bad rides in these races.
Maybe the distance was too long for SPECTACULAR BID.also injured
Really Good smart strategic ride by Ruben Hernandez
After all this time, it looks incredible that Bid lost this race. Ronnie Franklin was still green and he didn't get Bid relaxed at all.
I know it sounds silly, but if there should be 2 more triple crowned horses thru 2014, they would have have been Native Dancer and Spectacular Bid.
Smarty Jones
@@PhillyBirdGangg Big Brown!!
@Philly-lj6mq Funny cide the gutsy gelding. Spectacular bid was the greatest horse to not win the triple crown. That is really sad.
I disagree with just about everybody below. The pace wasn't blazing. 47 3/5 is reasonable for this race. 1.11 and change for 3/4 is 2 sec slower than Secretariat's Belmont. The Bid made his move, but wasn't up to it. I lost $100 on this race, but I don't blame the jockey.
Dennis Secret Agreed. This was not that fast of a pace. Final time was actually slow, 2:28+. I tend to think Bid was tired from his gruelling schedule, and the fact he didn’t change leads (maybe due to soreness in his foot from the safety pin). He was also sweating and a bit on edge before the race, which no doubt wasted some of his energy. Also he never won either race at 1 1/2 miles, the Belmont or the Jockey Club Gold Cup over this same surface (with Shoemaker), yes the later against Affirmed a 4 year old, but he ran that race stalking and made several attempts to pass Affirm unsuccessfully. That might suggest he was a brilliant horse from 6f-1 11/4 miles, but 11/2 miles may have been beyond his reach.
@@robertsmale3714 that is an excellent point. About JCGC and 1 1/2 miles. Also although he was somewhat excitable normally, i thought he was exceptionally amped up before this race. Who knows maybe his foot was bothering him.
This and Big Brown in 2008 were my 2 most disappointing races!!
Ronnie messed that race up for the Bid. He did not do what he always done before and set a pace then Charge at the end. Instead Coastal did. If Bid would of laid back with Coastal, Bid would of won the Tripple Crown.
agree with you
big check too early to move
I loved Coastal that day after his great fast finish in the Peter Pan . Had 200.$ to win on him.
Great ride Ruben
I enjoyed CBS doing horse racing back then.
Coastal was very fresh for that race.
What does he mean a photo for second? Golden Act was clearly second.
I hadn't seen the post parade in a long long time, so I had forgotten how on the muscle Bid was. I think he was rank in this race. I don't think he was hustled to the front. It looks like Franklin was trying to take him up, but couldn't. Then it looks like he decided to let Bid go, but by then he'd probably left his race behind, between the post parade and the early portion here. Franklin was into the whip before they hit the stretch. A more experienced jockey may have been able to settle him. Hard to know. It looks like this race started to be lost the moment they stepped on the track. He's still one of the all time greats!
the only thing rank was RONNIE FRANKLIN HIGH ON THE CRANK.
I agree. He was really amped up from the crowd noise and i dont think he was able to really relax during the race. That expenditure of energy is going to show in those final furlongs.
Franklin thought he had Secretariat, but found out that Bid wasn't quite THAT good. Should have run from mid-pack not wear Bid out early.
Not sure why he moved so early
exactly. Franklin rode the Bid perfectly in the Derby and Preakness. He was a tactical horse. Still feel bad for Franklin, poor kid.
Secreteriat wasn't unbeaten was he? He lost 7 tike in 23 races. The Bid only lost 4 times in 30 races. Secretariat lost his last race before the Triple Crown and his first race afterward. After the Belmont, Spectacular Bid lost only 1 more race, the 1 1/2 mile Jockey Club Gold Cup by three parts of a length to 4 year old Affirmed. In 1980, as a 4 year old, Bid had the best year any thoroughbred has ever had, before or since. If Secretariat had run as a 4 year old I don't believe he would have had the dominating year Bid had
@@rwbbpaok In what way was Bid's 1980 season better than Citations' 1948 season where Citation won 19 of 20 races, the triple crown, defeated the best 3-year old and older horses in the nation, including hall of fame horses and those ranked in the top 100 horses of the 20th century? How as it better than Dr. Fager's 1968 season where Fager became the only horse to ever win all 4 championships and did so while carrying an average of 133 1/4 pounds? 133 1/4 is an _average_ of 4 1/2 pound more than what Bid carried on average in 1980. Unlike Bid, Fager carried these imposts against hall of fame horses and those ranked in the top 100 horses of the 20th century. That average of 133 1/4 pounds is an _average_ of 4 1/2 pounds more than what Bid carried in 1980. That's the kind of weight differential that 4 year olds got assigned when competing against 3 year olds. How is Bid's 1980 season better than Round Table's 1958 season where he won 14 races, 3 championships, set many records, and carried huge imposts? Bid had a chance to compete against Winter's Tale, the hottest East Coast horse in the nation in 1980 in the Marlboro Cup. However, Bid got scratched from that race after being assigned 136 pounds. Clearly, Bid wasn't the second coming of Forego, Dr. Fager, or Round Table when it came to carrying big imposts against top opponents.
Perhaps I should have said best season since I've been immersed in the game, which has been since 1977. Either way, it's a pleasure to reply to someone with your depth of thoroughbred knowledge, there aren't as many of us as there used to be
I love that everyone is criticising Franklin. It was Bud Delp who lost this race because he told Franklin to ride the Bid like Secretariat. How come no one criticised Turcotte for going out in even faster tractions than Franklin? Well, because Big Red won and The Bid lost-this is how fools analyse races-if you win, you’re a hero and if you lose, you’re a bum. How very convenient.
I called this one,and made some good money calling this upset.
Coastal
(April 6, 1976 - September 29, 2005)
* Sire: Majestic Prince
* Grandsire: Raise a Native
* Dam: Alluvial
* Damsire: Buckpasser
* Sex: Stallion
* Breeder: Claiborne Farm
* Owner: William Haggin Perry (R.I.P.)
* Trainer: David Anders Whitely (R.I.P.)
* Jockey: Ruben Hernandez (8 for 14)
* 14 Starts
* 8 Wins
* 1 Second
* 3 Thirds
* $ 493,929 earned (Current $ 1,743,753)
* First supplemental entry to win Belmont Stakes
* Rest In Peace, Champion! We´ll never forget you!
* Best regards from Venezuela
Coastal
(6 de Abril - 29 de Septiembre, 2005)
* Padre: Majestic Prince
* Abuelo paterno: Raise a Native
* Madre: Alluvial
* Abuelo materno: Buckpasser
* Sexo: Semental
* Criador: Claiborne Farm
* Propietario: William Haggin Perry (R.I.P.)
* Entrenador: David Anders Whitely (R.I.P.)
* Jinete: Rubén Hernández (De 14-8)
* 14 Salidas
* 8 Primeros
* 1 Segundo
* 3 Terceros
* $ 493.929 producidos ($ 1.743.753 actuales)
* Primer inscrito suplementario en ganar el Belmont Stakes
* ¡Descansa En Paz, Campeón! ¡Nunca te olvidaremos!
* Saludos desde Venezuela
Mig? Good to see you on UA-cam.. Thanks for what you do, your involvement makes this a better game.
Moved the Bid to the front to early with too much distance to run. Shame
It was too early because Bid lost. People always make excuses when their favorite loses. No one knows what the outcome would have been if Bid or, for that matter, Coastal had run the race differently. That's why they run horse races rather than determining the outcome on paper. Bottom line is Bid just lost.
Ruben Hernandez was a student of the game along with the other greats Angel Cordero Jr and Jorge Velazquez
I would have to disagree with the previous comment. The fact that the Triple Crown is run over 3 races of differing distances, makes it the challenge that it is. I do not subscribe to the theory that the Belmont distance should be reduced to 1 & 1/4 miles. In fact I would go as to far as to say that it was scandalous to reduce the Jockey Club Gold Cup by a 1/4 mile! In France the authorities sanitized the Prix Du Jockey by shortening the distance. No longer the true test. Affirmed was a true great winning over distances from 5 furlongs up to 1 & 1/2 miles.
trackside77 Then almost every Derby and Preakness winner between Affirmed and AP would've won.
The last time the JCGC was even twelve furlongs was in 1989, and some blamed the distance being too long for Easy Goer to come back at eleven furlongs for the BC Classic. The Breeders' Cup even tried the marathon at 14 furlongs and the quality of horses who could handle that distance was so weak it's no longer part of the program. Too bad: we'll never see a top handicap horse such as a Forego, Kelso or Secretariat-slayer Prove Out, or stamina-blessed three year old like Arts and letters perform at two miles.
never mind the 1978 JCGC, possibly Seattle Slew's greatest race.
Actually the Belmont would be more interesting if they reduced the distance to 6 furlongs
The Distance was not the issue...Coastal was a Fresh Horse entering this Race also...Bid Beat Coastal by 3 Lengths later on at this 12 F in the Jock Club...Bid Lost the Belmont for Numerous reasons which i feel had nothing to do with the Distance...He only tried 12 F 2 times in Career and 2nd time he ran a competitive close 2nd to an All time Great in Affirmed who benefited from historical SLOW fractions and he was also Bids Elder...At age 4 i personally feel Bid would have been VERY tough to beat by Most Great Horses in History
Little did we know back then that this was going to be the norm for the next 36 years. Close to a Triple Crown but no cigar. Amazing that it looked like there was going to be 3 straight Triple Crown winners.
No cigar but at least we had a Cigar
A perfect season running a full schedule in the handicap division is WAY tougher than the Triple Crown, it's only been done 3 times (Tom Fool, Spectacular Bid, Cigar)
"The greatest horse to ever look through a bridle" the Bid never changed leads the entire mile and a half in this race. Injured of course. It was the only time Spectacular Bid was ever passed in the stretch. And he still holds the world record for the Classic distance of 1 1/4 miles. An incredible 157 4/5
The Sarge summed it up best: If Spectacular Bid and Coastal faced each other 100 times. The Bid would win 99 of those contests.The biggest upset in horse racing since the term was coined almost a century ago.
Horrible ride by the kid, but cool move by Reuben Hernandez ! One of my favorite jocks back in the day. Was always good in distance races and if you let him walk on the lead , forget it.!!
I guess any horse who loses the Belmont you can say what if. But it’s different with this horse he went 10 for 10 next year what if he won this race where would he be ranked all time?
Obviously a young rider that perhaps got as excited as the horse before the race. To set those fractions and move that early was no doubt the detriment of the horse. Coastal was definitely not the better horse that day.
I thought that Spectacular Bid had won the race and the Triple Crown, but Coastal came out of nowhere and finished first at the stretch. Spectacular Bid finished third behind Coastal and Golden Act.
so close to three straight triple crown winners..
Cash Assmussen went on to move to France
Remember it was clever riding by Reuben Hernandez on Coastal. Riding inside and breaking at the right time
In all honesty, it just wasn't The 'Bid's day. A strong pattern emerged over the years of 3yo's running a double top, and then bouncing. The stress of the Triple Crown takes it's toll. 1 of the toughest challenges in all of sports. Fresh & improving horses often do well in the Belmont. Coastal was 4-1 -- not 40-1. The result was sad. But not "unpredictable." As a professional, it's Franklin's job to put it all on his shoulders. It certainly would have been ideal to have him be slightly off the pace and wait a bit longer. But that's life. That's racing. The best horse doesn't always win. And a different ride might have made the finish closer, but not necessarily DIFFERENT.
too much early to take the lead
He was racing with an injury
En mi opinion franklin lo corrio' para perder porque lo lanzo' muy temprano ( he pushed the button too early)
El jockey Franklin lo hizo a propósito corrió a bid como sprinter , para al final no tuviera fuerzas para detener a Coastal. Esa una carrera preparada. Había mucho dinero apostado al Spectacular bid.
He Defines "Chomping at the Bit. 😀
The most outrageous Belmont Stakes in history. I still get pissed off over this race after all these years. Franklin is in the running for the worst jockey of all time.
Good afternoon. Ronnie Franklin not "threw away the race" as we venezuelan people used to say in cases like 111th. Belmont Stakes. Ronnie Franklin threw away a Triple Crown he had won aboard an exceptional horse named Spectacular Bid. An inmature and misconduct person (before the race he fought with Angel Cordero Jr in the Jockeys Room) Franklin rode like he was in a Preakness Stakes, and when the field turned for home, Bid was already tired! If Steve Cauthen, so young as Franklin, but with a thirty-year-old maturity jockey, would have ridden Bid, the result would have been different. But in 1979, Cauthen was not the same winning-jockey due to weight problems. Greetings from Ciudad Guayana, Venezuela.
Good evening. Ronnie Franklin not only "threw away the race" as we venezuelan people used to say in cases like 1979 Belmont Stakes. Ronnie Franklin threw away a Triple Crown which he had won aboard an exceptional horse named Spectacular Bid. An immature and misconduct person (before the race he fought with Angel Cordero Jr. in the Jockeys Room) Franklin rode like if he was in a Preakness Stakes, and when the field turned for home, Bid was already tired! If Steve Cauthen, so young as Ronnie Franklin, but with a thirty year-old jockey maturity, would have ridden Bid, the result would have been different. But in 1979, Cauthen was not the same winning-jockey due to weight problems. Greetings from Venezuela.
+jesusisnotallright s Best comment ever about Franklin.
Caroni100
Caroni100 gran monta del jinete panameño Ruben Hernandez sobre Coastal.
The Belmont is just too long the stretch never ends, this race and the one in 2004 were about the same race the same thing with 2014, there is a lot of things going on, but you cant go out to fast, in 2004 I cant remember who was on Smarty but he ran an awful race, Smarty should have won that race by 3, the new York stuff aside that ace is too long and you have to have the right jockey.
Stewart elliott on smarty jones?
@@christianfernandez3374 yes
I thought of the similarities with Smarty also. Smarty was pressured and never able to relax, expending too much energy. Left him unable to counter Birdstones surge.
Belmont Stretch being very long is a misconception...The WIDE Turn into stretch is what is LONG
Moved too early down the backstretch. Fidnt have to clear by 3 . Franklin was anxious and didn’t save for final 1/8.
The loss made Bud Delp so sick, he said he never watched the replay of the race ever.
Partymanners I was wondering if you had spectacular bids florida derby where he got in a lot of trouble?
Jockey Ruben Hernandez deserves a lot of credit for a smart ride... but it's being overshadowed by the favorite's dumb ride.
The Bid got a horrible ride.
This was the dumbest ride ever! I'm not trying to hear the "he was injured" excuse. His trainer and rider tried to pull a "Secretariat" and ruined an all time greats chance at the Triple Crown. Wow!
Rest in peace, track announcer Marshall Cassidy
I was rooting against Spectacular Bid because I didn't think the jockey was worth a dime. I expected the jockey to make a mistake and he did.
Spectacular Bid was given the most egregiously bad ride ever by jockey Ron Franklin who never rode the horse again after this race.
Bill Shoemaker rode Bid after and as a 4yr old colt in 1980 was the fastest horse ever including a walkover in the JCGC.
did coastal ever win another race?
He won the Monmouth Invitational, now the Haskell Invitational.
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Tried to beat Secretariat's time, the did him in.
WHY would you All of a Sudden Take The Bid out to Challenge and Take The lead in the First 1/4 of the Race?...And at 12F....People have Theories including Connections wanting to Break Secretariats record...My theory is that this race was Much too BIG for Ronnie franklin and he was afraid to LOSE considering all the Circumstances and he decided to go and get the lead Very early so he can not make any mistakes from off the pace...Choice he made was a Disaster
Terrible Jock like Fraklin should have never been allowed with 100 yards of such a Great Horse like Spectacular Bid...
Yes without question Ronnie Franklyn Got the Bid Beat That Day.
He Moved Too Soon.
Jimmy the Greek Said it Right.
Having never ridden a thoroughbred myself, I'm not sure that I am qualified to comment. However, given the manor of his victories in the Kentucky Derby and Preakness, Ronnie Franklin should perhaps have saved the horse and really kicked on for home in the last half-mile. Going off at such a blistering pace was not the best idea?
trackside77 You are 100% right. There was a lot of talk back then about the Bid being as good or maybe better than Secretariat and Ronnie Franklin got caught up and instead of beating the field he was running against, he wanted to beat Secretariat and there's only one Secretariat
Ipowers 2927 Trying to be something else never gets you anywhere
Based on times alone the pace was really not that fast even for the distance. However, Franklin needlessly pushing Bid was merely the last straw. Track condition, the safety pin and Bid's campaign were the other factors in this perfect storm. If only 3 of these conditions were present you probably have your 3rd Triple Crown winner in a row. In Bid's career, fractions like he threw down here were merely a morning workout.
Nice post!
Idiotic ride by Ronnie Franklin. No need for Bid to go that fast that early going twelve furlongs. There's a reason why Franklin never rode another top horse after this.
If Ronie Franklin had ridden Affirmed in all three of the 1978 Triple Crown races than Alydar would have been the 1978 Triple Crown champion!
This looks like Jockey error, totally forgot his horse would be running a longer race, and he chased the front runner, instead of holding the horse back and saving energy he burnt it out 200meters to go, had he conserve the horse it would have be 3 TC in a row..
Absolutely, Bid SHOULD have Won!!! It still HURTS to watch this Race!!!! However, Spectacular Bid was a FANTASTIC Horse, and he went Undefeated in his (4)-Year-Old Season, in 1980!!!😍 The Bid, just an AMAZING Horse!! I wonder did the Crowd noise affect Bid?🤔
Correct, Franklin rode him like a clueless monkey....
Not many horses can win the Belmont at that pace. Bid was not one of them.
Bid was robbed of the Triple Crown and you can see it clearly. The Jockey sent him to the front too soon. If he had held back along with Coastal then put him to it after the turn, Bid would of won it. Watch each race and the Jockey put Bid through hell always staying to the outside. Sad.
the point is had there not been a safety pin in his leg he wins the triple crown
Fixed race. Bid was taken out to fractions too too quick on purpose to lose the race by tiring out.
@Nate Cottrell he was fine , just a bullshit excuse from his connections.
Franklin wants how secretariat wins the Belmont but he failed..
Ronnie Franklin FAILED
just moved too early
yes, jockey got it wrong and ran his horse to the ground. aiii, he'll learn, hopefully but it is expensive for the Bid's connection. good horse, Bid.
Franklin's ride aboard specBid in this belmont stakes remains horse racing greatest failure!
It's so egregious it amounts to animal cruelty!
He never rode specBid again after this race.
SpecBid went unbeaten as 4yr old
Still the greatest racehorse ever
A ridiculous, egotistical ride by Franklin -- it's the reason why the top-tier jocks ride circles around the fourth-tier rider.
#CBSSPORT Costal Run Fear's
I owned coastal son “Sneakers”
Sold for $100000 as a pony, cost 8000 coming off the track. I got him for free.
He even ran with his head tilted
The jock blew it and blown him from the races map.
Well folks dont worry I got Ronnie back for the Bid.In 2007, I cracked Ron in the eardrum for calling me a foul name.He had to have surgery and was out of the saddle for six weeks.Busted his eardrum.Shame on you Ronnie, iam a nice person and you acted like a turd.
Good afternoon. Ronnie Franklin not only "threw away the race" as we venezuelan people used to say in cases like 111th. Belmont Stakes. Ronnie Franklin threw away a Triple Crown he had won aboard an exceptional horse named Spectacular Bid. An immature and misconduct person (before the race he fought with Angel Cordero Jr in the Jockeys Room) Franklin rode like he were in a Preakness Stakes, and when the field turned for home, Bid was already tired! If Steve Cauthen, so young as Franklin, but with a thirty-year-old maturity jockey, would have ridden Bid, the result would have been different. But in 1979, Cauthen was not the same winning-jockey due to weight problems. Greetings from Ciudad Guayana, Venezuela.
@@Caroni100, I agree!! Steve Cauthen, who Won the Triple Crown in 1978, onboard the GREAT "Affirmed," should have been onboard The Bid, and probably would have Won the 1979 Triple Crown!!!😎 Steve, would have been (19) Years Old, but he was SO mature for his Age!!! Ronnie Franklin, blew it!!!!😏
@The cisco kid wasnt a friend of mine, oh, I did not know that he had weight problems. Steve, was only (18) years old, when he won the Triple Crown, in 1978, while riding the GREAT "Affirmed" to victory!😍 It's ashame, being that he was so young, that he had to sacrifice his career, in America, due to weight issues.
Let's not forget that at the Belmont in the Barn stall spectacular bed had a safety pin in he's right front hoof that was in bedded in the horse hoof corrum ouch try running on that to this day no one knows anything about it
Solo la pierde el jinete.
Bud Delp blamed Ronnie Franklin for the loss which was wrong. Somebody stuck Bid with safety pins in his left hoof before the race.
Franklin screwed the Bid BADLY!