Thank you! It really pushes me down when I cannot play two audio sources at the same time, and even worse, when you're listening to music, and some web page content triggers any sound it just stops your music. It kills me everytime.
I bought the 11” M2 iPad just before the release of the M4. Hooked up to my 34” monitor, it comes close to being a laptop replacement. What I really enjoy is being able to have side-by-side instances of an iOS app running along-side the web version of the same software. Because for my work, the app and web versions have their own weaknesses and strengths. This allows me leverage the best environment for entering or editing data depending on my needs. I haven’t needed my MacBook for an entire week because of this.
@@Synfluence101 I have the standard Apple Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse I bought for my Air to use when it’s in clamshell mode. But I bought a an Apple knockoff of the iPad Magic keyboard from Amazon for about $140. It’s great!
@@arielspalter7425 because they're desperately trying to keep people from just not getting a MacBook because the iPad could do everything the MacBook can. Keeping it *just* inconvenient enough to not make it worth it allows them to keep people that are already locked in the ecosystem upgrading their MacBook as well. It's a huge software limitation, similar to how Google is limiting certain camera settings on the standard Pixel 8 vs. what's available on the 8 Pro. Same hardware, software limited. iPad could do SO much more if Apple wasn't as greedy.
@@arielspalter7425 Most operating systems do window management and interact with apps in the kernel. One goal of Apple’s i operating systems Is to avoid the kernel And try to do everything in user space, which is safer but more challenging. As well, app, resources from storage to memory are sandboxed, which also affects the functioning of features like Stage Manager and the Files app. I can’t claim that this is the best possible for anyone to do, but is not just a bunch of crazy stuff for no reason.
Exactly. Stage Manager is the dimetric opposite of intuitive. Even though I HATE when people say it, I can’t help but think that Steve is rolling over in his grave screaming “Nooooooooooo…” 🐬
If you hold the shift key while clicking on the app you want to open it will keep all the other apps open in your stage manager view. I find this less cumbersome than dragging the app.
OMG I never knew that. Thanks for the tip. I agree with you, this is the window behavior that makes sense and it should be the default behavior without having to hold the Shift key.
Great video and tutorial. I sympathize with Apple trying to make the iPad a versatile tool for professionals. I recently watched a review by an orchestral musician and teacher who uses the iPad for writing and reading music, navigating with a foot pedal while performing. She dislikes the Center Stage feature when teaching remotely because it constantly refocuses on faces instead of hands, so she has her students turn it off during lessons. For doing regular work I really like the stage manager feature.
Are you maybe thinking of Center Stage, the feature that makes the selfie camera adaptively follow subjects during video chats? Confused how Stage Manager would be changing camera focus.
I've given up on making iPadOS my primary OS a long time ago. It will work for some workflows, but not mine. I've also made peace with the fact that it's meant to be a complementary device. 🐬
This was the video I was waiting for, thank you!! Sad to hear there’s not much new in Stage Manager, but the small improvements to the window movement between screens is still nice. I’ll cross my fingers that we might see more in the betas over the coming months. Thanks for sharing!
I had been using an 11” 2018 iPad Pro since it came out and never used stage manager because it felt too cramped on the 11” screen and it didn’t support it on an external. Jumped to order a 13” M4 with the keyboard and I’m excited to use it as more of my main computer now by using stage manager more often
Identical story here i.e. 11” 2018 iPad Pro to 13” M4 iPad Pro. Since buying the M4 iPad Pro, I’ve not gone back to my MBA due to the combination of the MagicKeyboard and StageManager - absolutely love it!
how are u finding it? I currently have 11 inch 2018 and am thinking of going to 13 inch m4; how is the battery? does it get hot? is it powerful when u use it?
@@gamingvariation1323 Switching to the M4 iPad Pro has been the best decision I’ve ever made. It’s noticeably faster than my 11-inch 2018 model, and the screen is outstanding, especially with the deep blacks of the OLED display. The battery life matches that of my 2018 iPad Pro. Upgrading from an 11-inch to a 13-inch screen has transformed my experience, with Stage Manager significantly enhancing my workflow. Pairing it with the Magic Keyboard has been essential, making it a perfect daily driver. I used to rely on my MacBook Air every day, but since getting the M4 iPad Pro, I haven’t needed it. This iPad handles everything I need.
indeed, I also like to listen to binaural beats while watching a podcast or something. Thankfully, there’s a workaround with an app called Flacbox (by going to settings, audio player, general then scrolling down to enable the audio output mixed mode)
Very useful video. Again Apple iterates multitsking gradually and it is more convoluted than it needs to be eg a Space paradigm where you first of all use a hierarchy of screens and allocate apps per screen to organize them then move between screens (virtual desktops) and it is easier to get your work flow running. Then it depends on Windows manager, File Manager, Background Tasks Manager also being tweaked to work with this. For some reason Apple seems to approach multi-tasking as a feature that needs decades in beta...
I have a couple of questions: how do you charge your iPad ? the monitor through the Thunderbolt Port charges it? or Do you use it unplugged from the electricity? Does it damage the batery work with the iPad plugged to the electricity? Thanks Fernando!!
@@torvic333it's not good... Because unlike a laptop battery is being used even thou it's plugged in.. so it would be like using it without plug and then plugingit when drained.. but with the extra monitor consumption... If you are planning to use monitor a lot, go for Mac book air..
Thanks, I’m here for the LumaFusion example. I have a Mac Mini, but I’ve been video editing on my iPad way before having the Mac. I don’t want to switch to editing on a computer. Now being able to have full display support with LumaFusion that’s a game changer.
Did you also notice, that the Magic Keyboard Shortcut (Globe + down) for „show all windows“ (6:18) is not working anymore? Now you have to hold down the buttons (which is also not working consistently) and can’t select a window with arrow keys like before. Also the MKB is not rly working reliably in UA-cam app (scrolling, pausing) or even UA-cam in Safari. Way worse experience than on the Mac.
We need full screen support Only some apps have full screen Now that emulation is released & AAA games Full screen support is going to be demand to enjoy it in our 2k monitor etc We have to force Tim to cook well with it
Agreed. Not being able to use the full screen for stage manager apps is a deal breaker. They make you have that dock on the left. Which is dumb. You already have a dock on the bottom. Why add another?
I love Stage Manager. Took some time getting use to, but once I did I never looked back. Use my iPad as my daily carry and I do a fair amount of multitasking and Stage Manager works well. I think people are to quick to disparage Stage Manager without spending enough time to figure it out. 🐬
@@AnonN-sr6uu My 13” M4 2TB nano-textured glass WiFi+cellular can’t handle my LG OLED evo OLED88Z39LA 88” 8K TV. I’m hoping that this will be fixed in an update. 🤞🏻
I also could not agree more. Particularly with the disparagement issue. I’ve read and watched so many hot takes about how stage manager can’t do X or Y, when I do that exact X and Y every day. I can work with Stage Manager every bit as fluidly as I can with windows on Mac. Maybe even more fluidly. I, too, love it.
It has to do with preference. Lots of people disparage iPadOS because it doesn’t do things exactly the same way a Mac does. But it isn’t a Mac, so why should it? Lots of people aren’t willing to alter their workflows to accommodate a completely different type of device. I don’t even use Stage Manager because I never run more than 2 apps at a time and prefer Split View, but I’ve learned Stage Manager and find it works pretty well.
I have my m4 iPad attached to a monitor sitting next to my iMac Pro. Being able to crossover and control both devices with my Mac mouse and keyboard means I can use iOS apps streamlessly on the iPad and work on my Mac at the same time. It’s great for productivity
Hi there, nice video but those features aren't new to iPadOS 18. I'm on iPadOS 17 and can drag windows from the iPad to my monitor and vice versa plus click on the icon to get the more details with the white text that your demo'd. 🐬
The strangest designed decision was going with the ellipsis in the upper middle of the window, instead of just copying the macOS design with the upper left hand “traffic lights”. Now, moving from iPhone to iPadOS to MacOS is an exercise in “uhhhh … oh yeah, switch interface thinking mode”.
🐬 Great video. I only use the stage manager with my ipad on the external monitor. It works great. What I don’t like is that it suspends the apps when switching from one stage to another. If you have an app in one stage with other apps all apps on that stage are running. But when you make one app fullscreen on that stage, the other get suspended. I wish that would not be the case… switching to full screen shouldn’t suspend other apps on the same stage.
❤Stage manager. My workflow has changed. After seeing Apple Vision i feel when using stage manager and an external display feels like spatial computing to me. I have a studio display and its perfect work flow. Haven’t used my MacBook in 2 weeks since iPadOS 18 beta 1. It works even better with 18 so far. Solid beta! 🎉
weird thing ist, I searched for how to play back youtube in fullscreen on my connected TV while being able to type up or read comments like right now. Your video DOES play back on the external.. But others dont? What is halpening? I was used to connecting my old ipad air2 and just have it always do that. Now with my new ipad Pro m4 that doesnt do it. Except yours and one or two others. Magic?
The annoying part for me is that iPad OS doesn’t let me use two separate audio in and out sources at the same time. I would like to use my iPad dock's audio out jack that goes to my desktop speakers while using the iPad mic or a USB mic. However, it will only allow me to select a single source for audio in/out. If they could fix that and possibly allow a mouse pointer mode that looks and acts more like a conventional mouse pointer with a proper right click function. Fix both of those issues and I would be set for awhile.
Issues remain: - Extended display does not work with AirPlay through Apple TV - Swipe left to the previous page in Safari seems to conflict with the Stage Manager
Do you know if Stage Manager (iPadOS 18) on an external screen finally opens the files in a large window? With iPadOS 17, files are systematically opened in a small window, which requires resizing the window each time it is opened. 😮💨 And long live the iPad! 😍
Awesome! I use Stage Mgr. All the time so I’m looking forward to the additions! I’m also on a 12.9 M4. My IPad is my laptop and has been for several years.
After wwdc24 I returned my m4 ipad and bought a Samsung s9 tab. 3 years with ipadOS and it's still not a fit for my use case. Neither is s9 really but it costs less and different quirks from iPad. Also broke my Apple ecosystem, will see how it goes...
Stage manager improvements - the tiling feature from MacOS sequoia - easy ability to add an app (up to 4) without a new window, all apps should support full screen, all apps should support multiple unique instances not just the Apple products - wouldn’t mind 2 external monitor support. It’s not stage manager but Apple needs to support multiple audio for podcasters
The better request to Apple is a smaller, more affordable Mac Mini. Perhaps call it Mac Nano. Built like an Apple TV. With just 1 USB-C, 1 HDMI and no USB-A ports. With M2 chips. Whatever to get the price below $299.
The audio sources is the only thing that keep me from buying an Ipad, I love to be in call with friends and sharing a video with them... I tried on Iphone and the sound quality goes way down in this situation.
Finally decided to ask this: I teach high school and recently got an 11” pro. The one issue I have that means this could never replace my MacBook is the lack of full wide screen when output to my 100” tv. I get that the aspect ratio on the iPad is different, but there’s no reason Apple couldn’t let me draw an hd area of the screen to share. In fact take away the dock and you’re basically there. I know it sounds minor- but I need my students to be able to see, and I need to mirror so I can use the iPad as intended. Otherwise MacBook is much easier. 😊
You can just zoom in on the tv. Most tv's should have a setting for that. My LG tv has a 4-way zoom option with which i can crop any area of my iPad screen to the full 16:9 of my tv. Not sure if that's what you are asking for
I think the basic fact is, you can have a second screen (or more) and either mirror the iPad Pro screen, or place a ‘main app’ there and have it running while you do something else on the iPad…typically, for me, leaving a comedian show or the news running (come on, no jokes about how you can’t tell the difference, please, we’ll get over it, honest!) on the second screen, then meddle with GarageBand or something on the actual iPad screen. Whether it’s messy or not, phfft, yeah, could say that, but I think I tend to set the situation up, and just leave it for a bit. I think, it could be a lot of use to teachers? They don’t have to turn their back on a class, I know they can use laptops etc, but this makes it possible to use iPad Pro instead. The usual rule applies however - size really matters. We all know, a small hi-res tablet 12 inches from your nose, is really pretty immersive and useful. As soon as you introduce a second screen, it has to be about 32” diagonal before you can deploy it to a benefit? It’s a question, as I just got a suitable cable to make an old 22” LG Full HD screen act as second screen, and even three feet away, it’s no more detailed than my ipad, it’s partly that GarageBand is one of many apps that does NOT make use of the full screen of the second device. Lumafusion does, albeit with the usual distortion…bringing us to where Apple will be spending a lot of thinking time now - time to move from the presently-stumpy 4:3 or whatever aspect ratio, to something more akin to cinema, for their next 14” iPad Pro that seems a bit likely? The use of real estate on my 12-year old LG screen, would be around 19” instead of the present 15” as I measured it today (diagonal). Although, GB could happily be distorted, where it’s less desirable with video editors or photoshop type apps for obvious reasons of distorting the image. Anyway, I note that Dell have obviously got the same view - a 27” screen here in the UK (only HD but not awful), is on offer at mo for £121 or so, very good deal… but then try getting next size up, it’s almost DOUBLE the price. Those 3 or 5 inches more, really cost, as well as being higher res eg QHD etc. Still, my old re-purposed LG 22” screen will let me see if there’s any utility for me in having a second screen for anything. I measured the viewable area when it simply mirrors the ipad, and it’s about 15 inches as I said. Stuck on a wall-mounted arm, it’s amazing how little better it is in-terms of size, detail visible, etc, even just a few more inches away than iPad. Take care all.
I put the beta on my M1 and for some reason it’s using like 60 GB of storage for system data. I literally only have like two apps installed right now. Highly don’t recommend installing this beta on iPad. On my phone it’s been fine.
I also been using iPad Pro as main laptop since 2018, but in my case, I have a dedicated PC laptop at home to remote into incase I have some tasts that require a desktop OS, so far I like this setup and I do not want to go back to regular laptop, and I am looking forward to iPad Pro 13“ next.
I actually do not like stage manager, although I have it open on my iPad virtually all the time because it’s the only way to get iPhone apps to open the right way up like my banking apps when the iPad is on the Magic Keyboard. The previous split screen I much prefer for multiple tasking as I want to utilise the full screen, and not have floating windows.
Do find the iPad UA-cam App to be clunky and less pleasant than the desktop website? I have no issues using the iPad as a computer replacement. I find myself wanting to get rid of “web action” apps and instead use Safari, like you would on a desktop/laptop.
For me it’s the opposite: I prefer the iPad app. HOWEVER, it is terrible with memory management and the queue is supper buggy, so I’m often losing my queue
I hate UA-cam’s web interface and mostly love the UA-cam app on iPadOS. Interface-wise, the app is far superior, but I suppose it’s always a personal preference.
@@techinrl9869 My primary issues with the app is that when I have my big iPad docked to the keyboard and trackpad, the interface does not respond properly to trackpad input. And I don’t like that it displays my subscription feed in column view as opposed to lateral grid view the way that the desktop website does. I also find that watching UA-cam on the website through Safari consumes far less battery power than the app does.
An iPad simply cannot replace a Mac for productivity no matter how much you try. Apps that work on both iPad and Mac OS are not the same. iPad versions are more basic. Personally unless you’re a content creator then an iPad Pro is a waste because an Air can do almost the same. In my opinion an iPad is best for basic gaming and content consumption. A Mac is the best for productivity.
Hi. When I plug my iPad to an external display, start MS Teams, turn on the camera,and move the Ms Teams windows to the external display, the camera rotates 90°. If I send the Ms Teams windows back to the iPad, camera works good. I have an IPad Air M2, iPadOS 17.5.1, plugged to the external display with an hdmi to usb c cable. How can I fix that? Thank you.
There can you put at the bottom video of UA-cam and top left one application and top right an other one like the Samsung Galaxy z6...can you set a preferred position of some apps?
Is in the meantime screen recording working on the external display? That's the only thing stopping me from going iPad copletely. As I do a lot of Software Demos within Teams I would like to share let's say an RDP Session running on external display in Teams. WHile beeing able to take notes on the iPad itself at the same time. But screen recording only works for the internal display in iPadOS 17. Did that change in 18?
iPad Pro's have an m4 chip with thunderbolt support but can only connect to 1 screen? if all these features were on the iPhone I'd be impressed. But for a laptop replacement this OS is subpar.
All base M-series chips have only two display controllers. One controls the iPad screen and the other the external monitor. This is no different from the M1, M2, or M3. Apple did just implement a feature on the newly introduced MacBook Air M3 that allowed a second monitor if the laptop is closed, a feature which was then extended to the M3 MBP. Again two controllers, two screens. It’s as simple as that. Apple could implement clamshell at some point that would allow a second monitor.
Does stage manager finally support a 5120x1440p resolution? I tried it with an M1 iPad before and I would buy the M4 if it finally supports it but for now everything is way too big and feels like it‘s at 150% zoom, definitely not like how it’s supposed to be
Any solution on that level should be intuitive and simple. Stage manager is neither, just a mess coming from a development team which doesn’t have a clue what a typical user would accept. This is quite the opposite of what Apple tried to achieve with MacOS compared to Windows.
🐬 Did the more space for the external monitor work for you in ipadOS 17 or is this a new feature of 18? I’ve tried using it (os 17) with my ultrawide monitor and the text in the windows such as the mail app are far too big. It was my understanding that Apple have not fully supported ultrawide monitors in 17 so I really hope that this is fixed for 18 as it would turn the ipad into a very good desktop alternative if this is sorted.
I have an iPad Air 4 which is not compatible with stage manager (I’m too rich to buy the new m4 iPad they should raise the price) but I tried something and now it works perfectly with iOS 18. I use it for my homework with an external screen and doing multiple task is a game changer, this is one the best feature on iPad. But i don’t know why apple has not enabled stage manager on this iPad because it’s sooooo smooth i never encountered lag issues even when playing games. Stage manager compatibility is only marketing 😢 and apple intelligence will be the same
Im just trying to figure out how to use the dang thing, im an android user never had an iPhone, had an older ipad before but i just got the m4 ipad pro and well i just dont kniw how to use it rofl. Maybe its too much tablet for me lol.
Have you worked with the new feature of files to let you force Files to keep. local copy on the iPad? If ao, can it be used to force save a folder and all its subfolders and file on the iPad?
bruh.. how can apple not get multi audio working on ipados? samsung tabs have had the ability to play multiple audio sources all at once.... even change each app's volume independently.... wish ipados wasn't so gimped.
I can’t use an external mouse when connecting to an external display, it bugs out completely! Anyone else in the same boat and fixes? Tried restarting, diff cable and mouse etc.
Gonna study Full Stack Web Development. I have MacBook pro 2015... I need a new device. Should I go for the iPad pro or is it useless for coding? Or use my own and wait for an M4 MacBook?
As a full stack web dev, I cannot do my job solely on iPad. Would love to someday, but it’s not there yet. Lack of terminal and cli dev tools alone make it near impossible.
i would recommend a Mac. You can code on an iPad, but there are way more resources and videos about coding on Mac. I personally dont code so I cant really say
Developers tend to prefer multiple large expansive monitor, especially for web development. I would go for a Windows machine since Visual Studio is a superior environment, actually, but if you want to stay with Apple, get a MacBook Pro capable of multiple monitors. Keep in mind MacBook Airs can only handle two monitors if its lid is closed. As a developer, I hate coding on a teeny tiny screen like an iPad, so even if they had every tool I needed, I still wouldn’t do it.
Holy Moly! Talk about rubbing your tummy and patting your head just to navigate multiple windows open at the same time! This may drive me back to my Apple //+ days green font and black desktop days!! ;) I really wish "clam shell mode" was supported with external monitor. Apple needs to keep it it a bit more simple!
In terms of scaling, I found I couldn’t get the iPad to scale on my 49” 4k ultra wide monitor. Have you tested this? I’m on iPadOS 17 still, is this something that only works or was fixed in iPadOS 18?? This would be HUGE for me if so.
@@AndrewVisor for me it’s all stretched and doesn’t scale correctly at all! What settings and gear are you using to at least get it to display at a normal ratio??
@@davidaballo6339 I only have an iPad Air 4 right now (thats why I want to upgrade) but I used my wife’s iPad Air 5 briefly and it at least filled the screen (G9, 5120x1440p) without black bars or smth like that. As I mentioned everything still looks like it‘s zoomed to 150% or so so not really usable.
@@davidaballo6339 just a standard USB-C to DP cable, I read that HMDI causes issues with ultrawides, so if you use that you should probably try DP instead
Nah, you can't have 4 apps running on the screen at once. You can't have grouped apps running in the background. In most cases I prefer Stage Manager. I just wish the apps weren't limited to the grid and also had a snap to function to size and position.
As someone who uses stage manager on Mac and has used an iPad daily since back when splitview/slideover was just a single list of all compatible apps you slid in from the right, I see both as having their own time to be utilized. If you’re an iPad user who uses the iPad with an external display and ir mouse and keyboard most of the time, I see stage manager as a great option. If you’re using an iPad touch-first, then yeah, splitview/slideover is definitely the way to go imo
Thank you! It really pushes me down when I cannot play two audio sources at the same time, and even worse, when you're listening to music, and some web page content triggers any sound it just stops your music. It kills me everytime.
I bought the 11” M2 iPad just before the release of the M4. Hooked up to my 34” monitor, it comes close to being a laptop replacement. What I really enjoy is being able to have side-by-side instances of an iOS app running along-side the web version of the same software. Because for my work, the app and web versions have their own weaknesses and strengths. This allows me leverage the best environment for entering or editing data depending on my needs. I haven’t needed my MacBook for an entire week because of this.
I also have a M2 11" Ipad Pro...It's great!! What are you using for a keyboard and mouse?
@@Synfluence101 I have the standard Apple Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse I bought for my Air to use when it’s in clamshell mode. But I bought a an Apple knockoff of the iPad Magic keyboard from Amazon for about $140. It’s great!
This just has to be the most convoluted way to do an OS interface.
Exactly what I thought. It’s over-engineered design to accomplish a very simple task, that is done effortlessly in any other operating system.
So true
@@arielspalter7425 because they're desperately trying to keep people from just not getting a MacBook because the iPad could do everything the MacBook can. Keeping it *just* inconvenient enough to not make it worth it allows them to keep people that are already locked in the ecosystem upgrading their MacBook as well. It's a huge software limitation, similar to how Google is limiting certain camera settings on the standard Pixel 8 vs. what's available on the 8 Pro. Same hardware, software limited. iPad could do SO much more if Apple wasn't as greedy.
@@arielspalter7425 Most operating systems do window management and interact with apps in the kernel.
One goal of Apple’s i operating systems Is to avoid the kernel And try to do everything in user space, which is safer but more challenging. As well, app, resources from storage to memory are sandboxed, which also affects the functioning of features like Stage Manager and the Files app.
I can’t claim that this is the best possible for anyone to do, but is not just a bunch of crazy stuff for no reason.
Exactly. Stage Manager is the dimetric opposite of intuitive. Even though I HATE when people say it, I can’t help but think that Steve is rolling over in his grave screaming “Nooooooooooo…” 🐬
If you hold the shift key while clicking on the app you want to open it will keep all the other apps open in your stage manager view. I find this less cumbersome than dragging the app.
OMG I never knew that. Thanks for the tip. I agree with you, this is the window behavior that makes sense and it should be the default behavior without having to hold the Shift key.
Great video and tutorial. I sympathize with Apple trying to make the iPad a versatile tool for professionals. I recently watched a review by an orchestral musician and teacher who uses the iPad for writing and reading music, navigating with a foot pedal while performing. She dislikes the Center Stage feature when teaching remotely because it constantly refocuses on faces instead of hands, so she has her students turn it off during lessons. For doing regular work I really like the stage manager feature.
Are you maybe thinking of Center Stage, the feature that makes the selfie camera adaptively follow subjects during video chats? Confused how Stage Manager would be changing camera focus.
@@Aiolos18 YES! That’s the one. I’ll edit this. Thank you. 🙏
What a timing , I was just exited to get to know about this. Thanks mate.
I gotta say this, I only watch iOS related video from 5 youtubers, and you are one of them, keep it up, great job!!!
You are able to move drag and drop windows between the displays in iOS17 as well.
I've given up on making iPadOS my primary OS a long time ago. It will work for some workflows, but not mine. I've also made peace with the fact that it's meant to be a complementary device. 🐬
This was the video I was waiting for, thank you!! Sad to hear there’s not much new in Stage Manager, but the small improvements to the window movement between screens is still nice. I’ll cross my fingers that we might see more in the betas over the coming months. Thanks for sharing!
Clamshell mode would be nice, also the option to unlock the iPad with the Touch ID from the Apple Magic Keyboard.
2:50 my guy started hypnotizing us into liking and subscribing. 😂
(I’m well aware he’s using it as a censor)
😂😂😂 funny!!
I had been using an 11” 2018 iPad Pro since it came out and never used stage manager because it felt too cramped on the 11” screen and it didn’t support it on an external. Jumped to order a 13” M4 with the keyboard and I’m excited to use it as more of my main computer now by using stage manager more often
Identical story here i.e. 11” 2018 iPad Pro to 13” M4 iPad Pro. Since buying the M4 iPad Pro, I’ve not gone back to my MBA due to the combination of the MagicKeyboard and StageManager - absolutely love it!
how are u finding it? I currently have 11 inch 2018 and am thinking of going to 13 inch m4; how is the battery? does it get hot? is it powerful when u use it?
@@gamingvariation1323 Switching to the M4 iPad Pro has been the best decision I’ve ever made. It’s noticeably faster than my 11-inch 2018 model, and the screen is outstanding, especially with the deep blacks of the OLED display. The battery life matches that of my 2018 iPad Pro. Upgrading from an 11-inch to a 13-inch screen has transformed my experience, with Stage Manager significantly enhancing my workflow. Pairing it with the Magic Keyboard has been essential, making it a perfect daily driver. I used to rely on my MacBook Air every day, but since getting the M4 iPad Pro, I haven’t needed it. This iPad handles everything I need.
multiple audio sources is good for talking on discord while playing a game
indeed, I also like to listen to binaural beats while watching a podcast or something. Thankfully, there’s a workaround with an app called Flacbox (by going to settings, audio player, general then scrolling down to enable the audio output mixed mode)
Thank you for sharing. Looks like there are some nice updates to Stage Manager! Go Fins!
THANK YOU. This is the video I’ve been looking for. Been wanting to switch completely to iPad so I think I’ve been convinced to upgrade my 2020 iPad!
Great overview, cheers 🐬
Very useful video. Again Apple iterates multitsking gradually and it is more convoluted than it needs to be eg a Space paradigm where you first of all use a hierarchy of screens and allocate apps per screen to organize them then move between screens (virtual desktops) and it is easier to get your work flow running. Then it depends on Windows manager, File Manager, Background Tasks Manager also being tweaked to work with this.
For some reason Apple seems to approach multi-tasking as a feature that needs decades in beta...
To those using stage manager with iPadOS 17, windows can be moved display to display no problem 10:00
I have a couple of questions: how do you charge your iPad ? the monitor through the Thunderbolt Port charges it? or Do you use it unplugged from the electricity? Does it damage the batery work with the iPad plugged to the electricity?
Thanks Fernando!!
great question! But yes, the thunderbolt cable chargers it. Most thunderbolt hubs or thunderbolt monitors will also charge the source computer.
@@9to5Mac so, is there any issue with the iPad’s battery 🪫 if I use it plugged all the time?
@@torvic333it's not good... Because unlike a laptop battery is being used even thou it's plugged in.. so it would be like using it without plug and then plugingit when drained.. but with the extra monitor consumption...
If you are planning to use monitor a lot, go for Mac book air..
@@torvic333 In general it's a good idea to keep the battery charge below 80% most of the time.
Thanks, I’m here for the LumaFusion example. I have a Mac Mini, but I’ve been video editing on my iPad way before having the Mac. I don’t want to switch to editing on a computer. Now being able to have full display support with LumaFusion that’s a game changer.
Did you also notice, that the Magic Keyboard Shortcut (Globe + down) for „show all windows“ (6:18) is not working anymore?
Now you have to hold down the buttons (which is also not working consistently) and can’t select a window with arrow keys like before.
Also the MKB is not rly working reliably in UA-cam app (scrolling, pausing) or even UA-cam in Safari. Way worse experience than on the Mac.
Edit: In Stage Manager it is working…
Don’t know if it was working before but if not, they added it in Stage manager and broke it in default mode :D
We need full screen support
Only some apps have full screen
Now that emulation is released
& AAA games
Full screen support is going to be demand to enjoy it in our 2k monitor etc
We have to force Tim to cook well with it
Agreed. Not being able to use the full screen for stage manager apps is a deal breaker. They make you have that dock on the left. Which is dumb. You already have a dock on the bottom. Why add another?
Agreed. It’s so perplexing that LumaFusion supports true full screen on the external monitor, but Final Cut does not. Like what are you doing, Apple?
This is great, I could find out to word arranging the display into google to find what I was looking for, luckily I found this video.
I recently started using Stage Manager and while it is not perfect. I do like it.
I love Stage Manager. Took some time getting use to, but once I did I never looked back. Use my iPad as my daily carry and I do a fair amount of multitasking and Stage Manager works well. I think people are to quick to disparage Stage Manager without spending enough time to figure it out. 🐬
Couldn’t agree more. It flies on my 13” M4 1TB/16GB.
@@AnonN-sr6uu My 13” M4 2TB nano-textured glass WiFi+cellular can’t handle my LG OLED evo OLED88Z39LA 88” 8K TV. I’m hoping that this will be fixed in an update. 🤞🏻
I also could not agree more. Particularly with the disparagement issue. I’ve read and watched so many hot takes about how stage manager can’t do X or Y, when I do that exact X and Y every day. I can work with Stage Manager every bit as fluidly as I can with windows on Mac. Maybe even more fluidly. I, too, love it.
It has to do with preference. Lots of people disparage iPadOS because it doesn’t do things exactly the same way a Mac does. But it isn’t a Mac, so why should it? Lots of people aren’t willing to alter their workflows to accommodate a completely different type of device. I don’t even use Stage Manager because I never run more than 2 apps at a time and prefer Split View, but I’ve learned Stage Manager and find it works pretty well.
I have my m4 iPad attached to a monitor sitting next to my iMac Pro. Being able to crossover and control both devices with my Mac mouse and keyboard means I can use iOS apps streamlessly on the iPad and work on my Mac at the same time. It’s great for productivity
Hi there, nice video but those features aren't new to iPadOS 18. I'm on iPadOS 17 and can drag windows from the iPad to my monitor and vice versa plus click on the icon to get the more details with the white text that your demo'd. 🐬
Yes, I have also been using these features on ipadOS 17.
Same here - Maybe they were added in the 17.x update?
Ipad Pro 2018, love it-love it- love it. My next Macbook will be an iPad!
The strangest designed decision was going with the ellipsis in the upper middle of the window, instead of just copying the macOS design with the upper left hand “traffic lights”. Now, moving from iPhone to iPadOS to MacOS is an exercise in “uhhhh … oh yeah, switch interface thinking mode”.
10:00 This isn’t true. Moving windows across screens already existed in iPadOS 17.
🐬 Great video. I only use the stage manager with my ipad on the external monitor.
It works great. What I don’t like is that it suspends the apps when switching from one stage to another. If you have an app in one stage with other apps all apps on that stage are running. But when you make one app fullscreen on that stage, the other get suspended. I wish that would not be the case… switching to full screen shouldn’t suspend other apps on the same stage.
also to note when you go to displays and you have your ipad connected to a dolby vision capable display there is a third option from SDR and HDR.
❤Stage manager. My workflow has changed. After seeing Apple Vision i feel when using stage manager and an external display feels like spatial computing to me. I have a studio display and its perfect work flow. Haven’t used my MacBook in 2 weeks since iPadOS 18 beta 1. It works even better with 18 so far. Solid beta! 🎉
Great brother.
Very helpful vedio
weird thing ist, I searched for how to play back youtube in fullscreen on my connected TV while being able to type up or read comments like right now. Your video DOES play back on the external.. But others dont? What is halpening? I was used to connecting my old ipad air2 and just have it always do that. Now with my new ipad Pro m4 that doesnt do it. Except yours and one or two others. Magic?
The annoying part for me is that iPad OS doesn’t let me use two separate audio in and out sources at the same time. I would like to use my iPad dock's audio out jack that goes to my desktop speakers while using the iPad mic or a USB mic. However, it will only allow me to select a single source for audio in/out. If they could fix that and possibly allow a mouse pointer mode that looks and acts more like a conventional mouse pointer with a proper right click function. Fix both of those issues and I would be set for awhile.
Stage Manager is the enhanced flexibility when it comes to moving and resizing windows. I’m optimistic about the direction Apple is heading.
Issues remain:
- Extended display does not work with AirPlay through Apple TV
- Swipe left to the previous page in Safari seems to conflict with the Stage Manager
To fix your second issue, you can turn off the recent apps strip in the control center or Multitasking settings.
Great review!
Do you know if Stage Manager (iPadOS 18) on an external screen finally opens the files in a large window? With iPadOS 17, files are systematically opened in a small window, which requires resizing the window each time it is opened. 😮💨 And long live the iPad! 😍
Awesome! I use Stage Mgr. All the time so I’m looking forward to the additions! I’m also on a 12.9 M4. My IPad is my laptop and has been for several years.
Just purchased a new M2 air. Looking forward to using stage manger & external monitor support
After wwdc24 I returned my m4 ipad and bought a Samsung s9 tab. 3 years with ipadOS and it's still not a fit for my use case. Neither is s9 really but it costs less and different quirks from iPad. Also broke my Apple ecosystem, will see how it goes...
Great intro and preview. Thanks.
Stage manager improvements - the tiling feature from MacOS sequoia - easy ability to add an app (up to 4) without a new window, all apps should support full screen, all apps should support multiple unique instances not just the Apple products - wouldn’t mind 2 external monitor support. It’s not stage manager but Apple needs to support multiple audio for podcasters
10:30 is it possible to export a movie on the screen (2nd device) and do something different on the iPad? Or still not possible?
Great video happy with my new m4 🐬
The better request to Apple is a smaller, more affordable Mac Mini. Perhaps call it Mac Nano. Built like an Apple TV. With just 1 USB-C, 1 HDMI and no USB-A ports. With M2 chips. Whatever to get the price below $299.
Pretty interesting 🤔
below 300$ with a m2 Chip 🤣🤣 what else do you dream
@@HUSTLEONLY-kz5bf M1?
Limitations on multipla instances of the same app is the key issue that prevents both iOS and Android from allowing true multitasking.
The audio sources is the only thing that keep me from buying an Ipad, I love to be in call with friends and sharing a video with them... I tried on Iphone and the sound quality goes way down in this situation.
I love my iPad Pro. All I need is clamshell mode.
Finally decided to ask this:
I teach high school and recently got an 11” pro. The one issue I have that means this could never replace my MacBook is the lack of full wide screen when output to my 100” tv.
I get that the aspect ratio on the iPad is different, but there’s no reason Apple couldn’t let me draw an hd area of the screen to share. In fact take away the dock and you’re basically there. I know it sounds minor- but I need my students to be able to see, and I need to mirror so I can use the iPad as intended. Otherwise MacBook is much easier. 😊
You can just zoom in on the tv. Most tv's should have a setting for that. My LG tv has a 4-way zoom option with which i can crop any area of my iPad screen to the full 16:9 of my tv. Not sure if that's what you are asking for
I think the basic fact is, you can have a second screen (or more) and either mirror the iPad Pro screen, or place a ‘main app’ there and have it running while you do something else on the iPad…typically, for me, leaving a comedian show or the news running (come on, no jokes about how you can’t tell the difference, please, we’ll get over it, honest!) on the second screen, then meddle with GarageBand or something on the actual iPad screen. Whether it’s messy or not, phfft, yeah, could say that, but I think I tend to set the situation up, and just leave it for a bit. I think, it could be a lot of use to teachers? They don’t have to turn their back on a class, I know they can use laptops etc, but this makes it possible to use iPad Pro instead.
The usual rule applies however - size really matters. We all know, a small hi-res tablet 12 inches from your nose, is really pretty immersive and useful. As soon as you introduce a second screen, it has to be about 32” diagonal before you can deploy it to a benefit? It’s a question, as I just got a suitable cable to make an old 22” LG Full HD screen act as second screen, and even three feet away, it’s no more detailed than my ipad, it’s partly that GarageBand is one of many apps that does NOT make use of the full screen of the second device. Lumafusion does, albeit with the usual distortion…bringing us to where Apple will be spending a lot of thinking time now - time to move from the presently-stumpy 4:3 or whatever aspect ratio, to something more akin to cinema, for their next 14” iPad Pro that seems a bit likely? The use of real estate on my 12-year old LG screen, would be around 19” instead of the present 15” as I measured it today (diagonal).
Although, GB could happily be distorted, where it’s less desirable with video editors or photoshop type apps for obvious reasons of distorting the image. Anyway, I note that Dell have obviously got the same view - a 27” screen here in the UK (only HD but not awful), is on offer at mo for £121 or so, very good deal… but then try getting next size up, it’s almost DOUBLE the price. Those 3 or 5 inches more, really cost, as well as being higher res eg QHD etc.
Still, my old re-purposed LG 22” screen will let me see if there’s any utility for me in having a second screen for anything. I measured the viewable area when it simply mirrors the ipad, and it’s about 15 inches as I said. Stuck on a wall-mounted arm, it’s amazing how little better it is in-terms of size, detail visible, etc, even just a few more inches away than iPad. Take care all.
With so little being changed in iPadOS 18, I’m assume the beta is pretty stable. Is it?
I put the beta on my M1 and for some reason it’s using like 60 GB of storage for system data. I literally only have like two apps installed right now. Highly don’t recommend installing this beta on iPad. On my phone it’s been fine.
I also been using iPad Pro as main laptop since 2018, but in my case, I have a dedicated PC laptop at home to remote into incase I have some tasts that require a desktop OS, so far I like this setup and I do not want to go back to regular laptop, and I am looking forward to iPad Pro 13“ next.
I actually do not like stage manager, although I have it open on my iPad virtually all the time because it’s the only way to get iPhone apps to open the right way up like my banking apps when the iPad is on the Magic Keyboard. The previous split screen I much prefer for multiple tasking as I want to utilise the full screen, and not have floating windows.
Great video 🐬
Yoo where can I get wallpapers like yours man
Do find the iPad UA-cam App to be clunky and less pleasant than the desktop website?
I have no issues using the iPad as a computer replacement. I find myself wanting to get rid of “web action” apps and instead use Safari, like you would on a desktop/laptop.
For me it’s the opposite: I prefer the iPad app. HOWEVER, it is terrible with memory management and the queue is supper buggy, so I’m often losing my queue
@@RuralSquirrelJuror The app is hit or miss when it comes to trackpad recognition, and it is a terrible power hog.
I hate UA-cam’s web interface and mostly love the UA-cam app on iPadOS. Interface-wise, the app is far superior, but I suppose it’s always a personal preference.
@@techinrl9869 My primary issues with the app is that when I have my big iPad docked to the keyboard and trackpad, the interface does not respond properly to trackpad input. And I don’t like that it displays my subscription feed in column view as opposed to lateral grid view the way that the desktop website does. I also find that watching UA-cam on the website through Safari consumes far less battery power than the app does.
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Have a question re: safari in stage manager mode why can’t you swipe right to go back a page???
It interferes with the gesture to show the recent apps strip. You can turn off the strip in the control center or Multitasking settings.
@@techwithtyler20 thank you
An iPad simply cannot replace a Mac for productivity no matter how much you try. Apps that work on both iPad and Mac OS are not the same. iPad versions are more basic. Personally unless you’re a content creator then an iPad Pro is a waste because an Air can do almost the same. In my opinion an iPad is best for basic gaming and content consumption. A Mac is the best for productivity.
Hi. When I plug my iPad to an external display, start MS Teams, turn on the camera,and move the Ms Teams windows to the external display, the camera rotates 90°. If I send the Ms Teams windows back to the iPad, camera works good.
I have an IPad Air M2, iPadOS 17.5.1, plugged to the external display with an hdmi to usb c cable.
How can I fix that? Thank you.
There can you put at the bottom video of UA-cam and top left one application and top right an other one like the Samsung Galaxy z6...can you set a preferred position of some apps?
Is in the meantime screen recording working on the external display? That's the only thing stopping me from going iPad copletely. As I do a lot of Software Demos within Teams I would like to share let's say an RDP Session running on external display in Teams. WHile beeing able to take notes on the iPad itself at the same time. But screen recording only works for the internal display in iPadOS 17. Did that change in 18?
Still no 120hz output for external monitor is kind of sad for iPadOS to have, and also display ratio control
So, who do you think is missing from stage manager?
iPad Pro's have an m4 chip with thunderbolt support but can only connect to 1 screen? if all these features were on the iPhone I'd be impressed. But for a laptop replacement this OS is subpar.
All base M-series chips have only two display controllers. One controls the iPad screen and the other the external monitor. This is no different from the M1, M2, or M3. Apple did just implement a feature on the newly introduced MacBook Air M3 that allowed a second monitor if the laptop is closed, a feature which was then extended to the M3 MBP. Again two controllers, two screens. It’s as simple as that. Apple could implement clamshell at some point that would allow a second monitor.
Does stage manager finally support a 5120x1440p resolution? I tried it with an M1 iPad before and I would buy the M4 if it finally supports it but for now everything is way too big and feels like it‘s at 150% zoom, definitely not like how it’s supposed to be
Any solution on that level should be intuitive and simple. Stage manager is neither, just a mess coming from a development team which doesn’t have a clue what a typical user would accept. This is quite the opposite of what Apple tried to achieve with MacOS compared to Windows.
🐬 Did the more space for the external monitor work for you in ipadOS 17 or is this a new feature of 18? I’ve tried using it (os 17) with my ultrawide monitor and the text in the windows such as the mail app are far too big. It was my understanding that Apple have not fully supported ultrawide monitors in 17 so I really hope that this is fixed for 18 as it would turn the ipad into a very good desktop alternative if this is sorted.
Thanks for the vid. I'm curious how the gaming experience is on an iPad connected to a monitor.
I have an iPad Air 4 which is not compatible with stage manager (I’m too rich to buy the new m4 iPad they should raise the price) but I tried something and now it works perfectly with iOS 18. I use it for my homework with an external screen and doing multiple task is a game changer, this is one the best feature on iPad. But i don’t know why apple has not enabled stage manager on this iPad because it’s sooooo smooth i never encountered lag issues even when playing games. Stage manager compatibility is only marketing 😢 and apple intelligence will be the same
How is this different from Samsung dex? Hesitating between this and the s9 ultra
When you watch more than 2 videos, if you mute 1 place, the audio comes out only in 1 place, but you can watch both videos. 😂
can you use the iPad speakers while connected to external monitor?
Im just trying to figure out how to use the dang thing, im an android user never had an iPhone, had an older ipad before but i just got the m4 ipad pro and well i just dont kniw how to use it rofl. Maybe its too much tablet for me lol.
Have you worked with the new feature of files to let you force Files to keep. local copy on the iPad? If ao, can it be used to force save a folder and all its subfolders and file on the iPad?
Great video, though it would be nice to see how affinty apps operate in ios18 stage manager..
bruh.. how can apple not get multi audio working on ipados? samsung tabs have had the ability to play multiple audio sources all at once.... even change each app's volume independently.... wish ipados wasn't so gimped.
Can you rotate the secondary display? Because I have my lower Monitor 0° and my top Monitor 180° rotated
I can’t use an external mouse when connecting to an external display, it bugs out completely! Anyone else in the same boat and fixes? Tried restarting, diff cable and mouse etc.
Gonna study Full Stack Web Development. I have MacBook pro 2015... I need a new device. Should I go for the iPad pro or is it useless for coding? Or use my own and wait for an M4 MacBook?
As a full stack web dev, I cannot do my job solely on iPad. Would love to someday, but it’s not there yet. Lack of terminal and cli dev tools alone make it near impossible.
i would recommend a Mac. You can code on an iPad, but there are way more resources and videos about coding on Mac. I personally dont code so I cant really say
Developers tend to prefer multiple large expansive monitor, especially for web development. I would go for a Windows machine since Visual Studio is a superior environment, actually, but if you want to stay with Apple, get a MacBook Pro capable of multiple monitors. Keep in mind MacBook Airs can only handle two monitors if its lid is closed. As a developer, I hate coding on a teeny tiny screen like an iPad, so even if they had every tool I needed, I still wouldn’t do it.
Holy Moly! Talk about rubbing your tummy and patting your head just to navigate multiple windows open at the same time! This may drive me back to my Apple //+ days green font and black desktop days!! ;) I really wish "clam shell mode" was supported with external monitor. Apple needs to keep it it a bit more simple!
take into account that ipads don‘t let you choose the resolution of external monitors. this resulta in ultra wide screens not working probably
Can you record external monitor screen
can I play two gaming apps at the same time? the one is in the active window while the other one is running at the background?
@@fordmccloud4455 yeah u can play
In terms of scaling, I found I couldn’t get the iPad to scale on my 49” 4k ultra wide monitor. Have you tested this? I’m on iPadOS 17 still, is this something that only works or was fixed in iPadOS 18?? This would be HUGE for me if so.
I’m in the same situation, on my 5120x1440 Odyssey G9 scaling is definitely broken, everything looks like it’s at 150% zoom
@@AndrewVisor for me it’s all stretched and doesn’t scale correctly at all! What settings and gear are you using to at least get it to display at a normal ratio??
@@davidaballo6339 I only have an iPad Air 4 right now (thats why I want to upgrade) but I used my wife’s iPad Air 5 briefly and it at least filled the screen (G9, 5120x1440p) without black bars or smth like that. As I mentioned everything still looks like it‘s zoomed to 150% or so so not really usable.
@@AndrewVisor Gotcha. What kind of cable did you use to connect?
@@davidaballo6339 just a standard USB-C to DP cable, I read that HMDI causes issues with ultrawides, so if you use that you should probably try DP instead
The lack of multiple audio sources at once makes multi tasking impossible for me.
🐬Great video!
2:48 half the section here you just censor it what's the point lol. Open something you can show instead
🐬 Impressed but for some reason I cannot shake using a Mac Mini M1 verses an Ipad 100%
Can you make a video on stage manager on iPad Pro 2020 I wanna see if it’s lagging or not
Nice video btw❤
I like stage manager for an external monitor but Split View for my iPad.
We need to have the ability to have one app take over both screen like true extended monitor support.
Dolphin 🐬 excellent video
Split View is better than stage manager. Change my mind.
Agreed. At least it’s less buggy.
Nah, you can't have 4 apps running on the screen at once. You can't have grouped apps running in the background. In most cases I prefer Stage Manager. I just wish the apps weren't limited to the grid and also had a snap to function to size and position.
Yeah :) Now we can use iPad speaker instead of monitor speaker 🎉🎉🎉
As someone who uses stage manager on Mac and has used an iPad daily since back when splitview/slideover was just a single list of all compatible apps you slid in from the right, I see both as having their own time to be utilized. If you’re an iPad user who uses the iPad with an external display and ir mouse and keyboard most of the time, I see stage manager as a great option. If you’re using an iPad touch-first, then yeah, splitview/slideover is definitely the way to go imo
@@thatpitter I can agree with this.
How many Holiday calendars do you subscribe to in Calendar??? 4 Fathers Day events! Lol
Great Stage Manager review! This is what I needed
"when will apple finally put a camera and final cut pro on the apple watch" type beat