The DECLINE of Honda in MotoGP! What Happened | MotoGP News | MotoGP 2024
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- Luca Marini, the only full-time rider on the grid without a point this season in the 2024 MotoGP, has drawn criticism for his lackluster performance on the RC213V.
Even though the Italian's below-par performances this season have been a far cry from his podium successes from the previous season, they must be understood in the light of the radically different position that he has been engaged to undertake in 2024.
Marini's season has been everything but fantastic, it is true. Marini's average pace this year has been nothing like his 2023 form, with him nearly always the slowest Honda and occasionally finding himself in a duel with riders from rival brands after they've remounted their bikes after crashing.
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What happened to Honda was they let go of Pedrosa who was the one developing the bike. MM is a good racer but terrible at development.
How exactly do you know that? Are you a member of hrc;
yes i agree. that why rossi want pedrosa into yamaha but failed.
Nowadays Pedrosa is doing miracle at KTM with KTM having 6 race wins in 5 years since he joined them😂😂😂
Since Pedrosa left Honda, Marquez got 15 race wins and 1 World Champion despite missing the entire 2020 season. That's more wins than the entire KTM bike that Pedrosa developed😂😂😂. Actually, Honda declined when Marquez got injured in 2020 and missed the entire season
He is a rider not an engineer, he is only one who could ride the honda, now everyone else is finding out how difficult it is. Mir, Rins, Marini, Zarco
I was a Honda V4 guy for decades. By 2013 I had a Kawasaki Concourse 14 in the garage. Replaced that with a Ducati in 2016.
Honda failed to provide their customers with the bikes they wanted to ride. So we went elsewhere. When you think V4 today, you think Ducati not Honda.
It amazes me that Honda cannot see this. Us vfr guys tried to tell them for over a decade before we started to walk away.
And the fact Honda reversed the horn turn signal location…I use the be a factory Honda rep….i will never ride one again because of the stupid horn/signal switch change…nobody does this
@@Purepresa If that is the worst thing wrong with that bike, then it must be one fine motorcycle. A shame for you that you are so stuck in your ways that you cannot adapt to a such small change.
@@Purepresa I really wanted to buy a VFR Crosstourer but I required cruise control and heated grips. Ducati gave me everything I was looking for for an excellent price. Love my Multistrada.
So...does that mean I can apply for a rider spot with Honda then? 😁
Puig and Bradle need to go ,new manager and a test rider that is going to push the bike
They relied on one rider who doing the impossible with a out-dated bike , everyone knew it except Honda
without a ultra talented rider Honda will not win again a title in the future.
hONDA HAS HAD THE WEAKESTR ENGINEERING / WORST BIKE IN MOTOGP FOR OVER A DECADE . WITHOUT MM93 HONDA WOULD HAVE BEEN A BACK MARKER FOR OVER A DECADE. MM93 LEAVING EXPOSED HONDAS WEAK ENGINEERING .
I like your findings ❤. Good vid
Thank you!
@@BikeGP can you do the same with yamaha. why Suzuki exits. If possible why are BMW, Suzuki and Kawasaki not interested. Can these manufacturers come back to MotoGP in 2027.
Plz make a Good dig at these topics , then collect all facts and give as a realistic anatomy of the topic. Then only give us your own view point and your wishes on said topics
@@BikeGP
This is just my view of the current Honda and yamaha situation.
I think yamaha is trying the Ducati strategy currently. If u remember back in 2013 to 2017, Ducati bikes were all about top speed , almost 5 kmph faster than 2nd fastest bike Honda on a straight line. Then from 2017 onwards Ducati improved by taking advantage of clever electronics & usage of aerodynamics to manipulate the bike to corner, accelerate & brake better. Slowly refining, adjusting & calibrating the bike to become more & more competitive in each race. Eventually bringing regular podium winners for Ducati and ultimately grabbing the title name world champion & best bike in the grid title.
I believe, Yamaha for sure is foreseeing the future rule changes coming up in the 2027 motogp season and gearing up for that. Also meanwhile doing everything to keep Fabio & Rins at their disposal and gaining more & more experience in aerodynamics. There recent aero & engine upgrade points to this conclusion from my view.
It sure is a risky game for Yamaha. But if pulled through, yamaha will be back in the Championship fight around the 2027 season with new rules.
I also like to say something about Honda too.
Well it's another story for Honda compared to yamaha.
If u remember, after losing the 2015 title to yamaha, Honda went all in to develop a bike that specifically suits only to MM93. Yes I know they won the 2016-19 championship.
By doing so they created a bike which is so much concentrated / focused to MM93 And no other rider can tame that beast ( just like the current Red bull F1 car that can only be driven by Max verstappen & no other driver is capable of ).
In pursuit of giving MM93 the best bike that suits him, Honda ignored the other side of their garage completely. Also been accelerated by the fact of the exit of Dani pedrosa from honda. Yes of course like yamaha, Honda got spat out in the Aero development department due to COVID 19. These is a excuse. But nobody cares.
Now under the cloud of Marquez betrayal, Honda has lost in an irreversible path that Honda itself has created. Currently Honda is picking up pieces that remain in the dust and trying to re-initiate their MotoGP plans.
I think currently they are trying to be more of a 2 rider centric rather than one rider centric like before.
In my view it's a good lesson for Honda and any other manufacturers. Betting too much on a single rider for too long could only lead to humiliation.
I Like to see how the reborn honda will scale up to the 2025 and 2026 challenge. And i also believe, even though they found out reality the hard way, now they are surely on the right path.
I would like to see both Yamaha and Honda challenge the european manufacturers in the 2027 season or so.❤.
Lawnmower division? Ouch! Even their mowers suck! Recall city. Maybe relocate again to ground magnet division where their motorcycles excel!
I don't understand why Honda are still keeping Alberto Puig,heard that
Lin Jarvis is leaving YAMAHA
Those who always Criticis Marques look so called incredible Rider can't get on top with Honda while in last year he was competing that same Honda bike with top Ducati riders he was challenging them in Qualifying he is a Gem.
Honda and Yamahas lackluster performance has been engineered as such by motogp. It’s their turn to let the other manufacturers share the limelight. Control ECU.
What happened to Honda was that they let Marc marquez build a bike and ruined everything. However one good thing came out out it. Now he will ruin ducati and send them back being useless again.
not true and even if he did build a bike around him, he delivered SIX (6) World Championships for them. that alone is worth building a bike just for one rider;
oh come on guys, don't be naive, don't be silly. The Hondas are also struggling in other races, including WSBK, and remember, THERE IS NO Marc Marquez in there. How come you said it's entirely Marc's fault?
They face this problem since of the single ECU rule (Magneti Marelli) applied, and their in-house ECU was formerly their primary tool for dealing with their wild but reliable engine and lousy chassis. (cmiiw) The Honda's last win on WSBK was on 2016 by NH69 (and his bike was STILL NOT USING ECU Magneti Marelli on that time).
They cannot design a bike that can react really good around the corner (fast in - fast out). Always a "nervous bike", And that's why they've always contracted an "Alien" rider in the past to handle the bike. And since the other factory bike became faster and faster around the corner, the Honda's bike weaknesses become more apparent.
I feel they will struggle whether Pedrosa is on their team or not. And look, even with Pedrosa as test rider for KTM team, only Acosta the one who can keep up (consistently) with the Ducatis.
And as long as Gigi D'alligna is on Ducati's squad as their chief engineer and the rules continue to favor them, the Ducati's will be just fine.
Ducati is what happened ,,it’s taken 60 years but European bikes are back on top
Honda probably pulled resources and engineers from their motogp team to F1 and Honda jet as they are excelling there
The quickest way for Honda to resolve this is to fire Puig. His insistence at listening to one of the worst development riders on the track (Marquez) and ignoring others is a large reason why Dani testing for KTM. If rumors that Aleix will be a Honda test rider are true that is good as he is not too bad at that. Bradl is a decent rider, but not up to the task of running current MotoGP race pace and to truly develop a bike they need a rider with that ability. Honda brought in Kawauchi after Suzuki closed - they should have put him in the race shop for the first year to develop the bike properly - away from incompetent Puig stuffing things up.
Lol...as if MM93 had no participation in tbe fail development of the RC213-V, the major error Honda committed was to throw all their eggs in one basket!
Karma on Puig
without MM93 would win Honda from 2013 - 2019 zero titles
Hello Honda. Make a deal with Valentino Rossi. I believe Rossi can tweak the Honda 213v back to winning ways. In trade give him his championship winning Honda 500cc bike. Cash plus bike is a win win solution for sure. I would definitely do it. Sincerely Craig Burden Tacoma Washington USA.
Alberto and the lazy Management of HRC are to blame ...get rid of Alberto and Honda will have a chance of a comeback. also get rid of waste like Stefan and Takka ...what the heck are they still doing at Honda
Honda should have keep their mouth shut about how good their Bikes are now you can't even finish in the top 10.
hONDA ALWAYS HAD ALIEN RIDERS . MARQUEZ LEAVING LEFT HONDA WITH NO ALIENS AND IT EXPOSED HOW BAD THE HONDA HAS BEEN FOR A DECADE
@@jake88ci Honda never really Impress me I worked for a motorcycle shop that started off with just Kawasaki, then Added Honda. Those v4 like the 750 were Destroying the timing change. Honda always thanks there Motorcycles are superior they don't care about the rider.
Marquez is partly to blame for the situation at Honda. He is getting a pass in this video