Bottom refers to "the humble bee" in _A Midsummer Night's Dream._ Monsieur Cobweb, good monsieur, get you your weapons in your hand and kill me a red-hipped humble-bee on the top of a thistle, and, good monsieur, bring me the honey-bag.
@@jb888888888 Another interesting source. The bees are widespread so the references are naturally also widespread. A quick internet look had showed me (in a couple of good sources) that humble-bee and bumblebee were both in use for centuries but humble-bee dominated until the early 20th century. It's fun how two very different occurrences of the word popped up in our minds from very different personal knowledge.
Due to a slightly hysterical conversation which was too long & involved too much alcohol to explain here, in my family we now call them "crumble-knees"
It's lovely to see the seasonal ones showing up! It's always been my custom to watch the Christmas episodes on Christmas Day, though I've changed it in recent years as the episode count grew too large. This year I watched up through 'K' on Christmas Eve and finished the rest on Christmas Day.
I knew Dumbledore, because Czech Harry Potter translators translated it as "Brumbál" which is an Old Czech name for bumblebee. (Which they had to explain to readers as well, of course) They tried really hard to keep the original vibe of the words.
I would love to see Daniel Radcliffe on more shows like this(maybe not just Harry Potter themed since he’s done a lot of stuff since that that is honestly way better)
If that's the origin of "hagrid",. then I guess looking "haggard" means being worn out, exhausted...essentially how you'd look if you have nightmares every night for a week or two.
Haggard is probably a dialectical corruption of hag-rid. English did not have set spellings for words until after the publication of the first dictionaries, and pronunciation is still not standardised.
I just had the most glorious aha moment when they were talkning about “Hagrid”. See the Norwegian word for nightmare is “mareritt". Now a “mare” is a Nordic mythological creature, which could roughly translate to “hag”. Then you have “Ritt” which means “ride” or “a ride”. “Hagrid” must be a direct translation from that original Nordic word which became “mareritt” in Norwegian. It also probably explains the word nightmare itself. Night mare. The “mare” that comes and rides you at night. Wow isn’t language fun?
@@educhann It's an all to common crime in Norwegian at least. When the content is targeted towards kids, they are very liberal with it. In the case of HP: Hermione Granger -> Hermine Grang, Weasly -> Wiltersen, Ron -> Ronny, Ginny-> Gulla, Neville Longbottom ->(brace yourself) Nilus Langballe (that's Longballs, in case the name wasn't similar enough), LeStrange -> DeMons, McGonnagall -> McSnurp (Snurp being a term for that sour face elderly has towards younger children they disapprove of). And my 2 personal favorites: Moaning Myrtle -> Stønne-Stina and Poppy Pomfrey -> Pussi Pomfrit. The translator reasoned his choices with the fact that in their original language, many characters have names that somehow described them, and felt it would be a disservice to young readers that didn't know english to be robbed of the implications of their names. His favorite translated word for the series is Quidditch... -> Rumpeldunk. (Funnily his translated word for the Snitch is Snoppen. Snitch is, I believe, a word for someone revealing a trusted secret. Snoppen is a childish nickname for penis.)
@@educhann Well, no. They never touch RL names, just fictional ones :p ANd Harry's name is t he same, since it's easy enough to say in norwegian as well ^^
Wow, that's actually funny to see the Brits learning this, considering that HP is a British thing. All Czech HP fans know this, because the translator of the books changed the names to sound more Czech (since they were originally children's books) and repeatedly explained the meanings of both the English and Czech names in media.
So you're 'surprised' that people who are in the present wouldn't use older words or know their origins whereas people who have listened to audiobooks with specific, extra descriptions......do know them?
@@Tao_Tology No, I think they were surprised because they didn't realize the English words were so obscure, since the Czech version is much more direct and obvious about the meanings of the names. You might be surprised to learn that there can be different connotations to the word "surprised". Czechs seem to know this already.
@@Tao_Tology lol, no. There were no audiobooks when the books were coming out. The translator had to come up with his own words (based on words and sounds in present and old Czech) because Czech didn't have such old and obscure words. But because he made them up, people kept asking him in interviews what inspired him to create this or that word. And he always explained the meaning of the English name/word and his thought process with coming up with a Czech equivalent.
I knew Dumbledore, but I didn't know hagrid was related to dreams, nor did I know the "hagridden" meaning. I just knew it meant disheveled and slightly disturbed. That's how I'd always heard it used. So I knew exactly what to expect from hagrid when I first heard the name. EDIT Apparently that word was haggard. It was permanently replaced with "Hagrid" in my mind once I got into Harry Potter.
I just had the most glorious aha moment when they were talkning about “Hagrid”. See the Norwegian word for nightmare is “mareritt". Now a “mare” is a Nordic mythological creature, which could roughly translate to “hag”. Then you have “Ritt” which means “ride” or “a ride”. “Hagrid” must be a direct translation from that original Nordic word which became “mareritt” in Norwegian. It also probably explains the word nightmare itself. Night mare. The “mare” that comes and rides you at night. Wow isn’t language fun? (Yes this was just too good not to repost a few times.)
can't believe I only see one comment on Graham repeating what Stephen said and getting credit for it for a second! that was incredible, bless Stephen's heart
For some reason I was very surprised when the camera angle changed and Daniel Radcliffe was sitting there. I mean, there have been some people on it who you would think are more random like Jerry Springer but I really wasn’t expecting Daniel on this show.
That’s fascinating because what they are describing is often associated with sleep paralysis. The main symptoms of sleep paralysis are: - waking up after being asleep - being unable to move - feeling a heavy weight on your chest - seeing people or creatures that aren’t there (mostly creatures) - a deep sense of fear. Common myths and things that possibly have origins in sleep paralysis include: Succubi/Incubi, Aliens, Jinn and many others.
At the very start of this video, you see words on a greenboard. This is the "I before E, but not after C" question that gave us all the Stephen Fry saying: "You cannot be that stupid!"
Not necessarily, or well, literally yes, because Hags and Witches are similar, yet different things. But being visited by a witch, hag, alp or succubus will leave the sleeper in roughly the same state.
I think the setup is whether you'd want someone high on weed, someone who couldn't sleep because they had bad dreams, or a bumblebee on your Quidditch team. The narrative did get a little windy, though.
In old Swedish they would call the "hagg" in haggridden "the Mara". Which I can only assume is the root of nightMARE (as the root of the swedish name for nightmare: Mardröm, Mardream).
@@IceMetalPunk While searching the etymology of the word, it seems that it does indeed referes to the succubus/goblin/spirit/hag of Mara, and not the horse. Maybe the horse connotation was a later interpetation for people whos language had forgotten the name of the Mara? They where female (sexual) spirits that came in the night and rode on the sleeping males, they could slip in through any cracks to feed on the energy of its victims. And usually they returned for a long time to torment them. People put iron and pages from psalm books in the cracks of their house to ward them of.
I just had the most glorious aha moment when they were talkning about “Hagrid”. See the Norwegian word for nightmare is “mareritt". Now a “mare” is a Nordic mythological creature, which could roughly translate to “hag”. Then you have “Ritt” which means “ride” or “a ride”. “Hagrid” must be a direct translation from that original Nordic word which became “mareritt” in Norwegian. It also probably explains the word nightmare itself. Night mare. The “mare” that comes and rides you at night. Wow isn’t language fun? (Yes this was just too good not to repost a few times.)
I'd like to believe Dumbledore is also an allusion to Mr Bumble in Oliver Twist. Whereas Mr Bumble was a cruel caretaker, Dumbledore was kind and wise. Another allusion to Oliver Twist I believe was Voldemort's birth. His mother walked into an orphanage and died giving birth to him there in a strange town as Oliver's did. And again the story then went different ways.
I love QI, and how it presents educational material in a such a fun format. That being said, I was mesmerized by Dan Radcliffe's chest hair THE ENTIRE TIME. I just want to dive in there and make a bed for myself and never leave.
@@wisteela : Well, with all your whining. It is obvious that you care. Your comment reads like a 3rd grade comeback. "I know you are, you said you are but what am I"? 🤦🏼♂🤦🏼♂🤣🤣 Not too sharp there are you Skippy.
But it wasn't a joke. The mare in that picture was supposed to present exactly that, the entire painting's name was 'The Nightmare'. Henry Fuseli painted it and the incubus because both were believed to be reasons/depictions of terrible sleep at the time (the late 18th century).
@@refragerator that's interesting because in arabic countries when we find someone sleep walking we say he's been hit by the night donkey, which is supposed to be an old folklore mythical creature or something
Fun fact: before the 1920s, "muggle" already existed, but with yet different meanings. In Shakespeare's time, it meant "sweetheart", and in Middle English, it meant "fish tail".
Nightmares have nothing to do with horses though. The 'mare' in there is a type of demon that sits on your breast when you sleep. Same origin as the German Mahr which means the same. In Middle English, the female horse was 'mare' or 'mere' and in Old English it was mīere. Whereas the 'mare' in 'nightmare' was already 'mare' in Old English. I once had a German Couchsurfer going by the name Nachtmahr so I had to check the etymology (in modern German, a nightmare is 'Alptraum', and I had never heard 'Nachtmahr' before, so I was intrigued) :-P
That's from the old Norse though. They believed the demon Mara would sit on your chest, causing nightmares. Dream in Swedish for example is dröm, and a nightmare is mardröm. Different cultures had different believes and superstitions.
@@Ikajo ohh, it might be related to norwegian in some way actually. we call it a "mareritt" ritt meaning ride so it seem to be a direct translation to hagrid or hagridden
I know Rowling is a bit of a weird character, and I've rolled my eyes at some of the things I've heard from her in the past decade or so; but I admit I've been kind of impressed with her ability to reference relatively obscure ideas and names in the Harry Potter books lol. When I was a kid I wouldn't have guessed that there was much of a "foundation" behind much in those books, but almost everything you can think of has some kind of place in history; be it old language almost no modern person knows, relatively obscure mythology, or alchemy. I can see some people concluding that means she's "copying" or lacks originality, but I'm confident that's not a fair take. Good stories, almost by definition, have to call on old, deep, buried ideas and reframe them in new ways. It's worth noting that some of the most successful works of the modern era (I'm thinking HP and Lotr right now) were evidently written by authors who were consciously being influenced by some quite old ideas and bringing them to modern people
As C.S. Lewis put it, trying for originality is a pointless game because sooner or later someone will find a similarity with something else anyway, or it just won't be a good story; it's better to just try and tell the good story you want to tell, and if you do, you may just strike gold anyway, simply because you're a unique individual telling the story your own way. Rough paraphrase. :-)
Interesting choices for JK now that we know what the words mean. Muggle is a stoner. Non magic folk don't have magic skills but does that make them dull? I guess maybe I never thought that in those terms. I did always think that squibs must be the disabled people in their families but they would not be really any different than muggles. So maybe if a squib is really just a muggle then maybe that's not such a leap. Hagrid. Sufferer of nightmares. That's pretty spot on for a man who was abandoned by his mother, orphaned by his father, rejected by his people, framed by his classmate, and then expelled from his only home. He was sent to Azkaban because of Buckbeak and Grawp was too rough and hurt him. Plus he worries about Dumbledore and Harry, Grawp, and also all his animal friends like and Firenze, Norbert, and Aragog. He stresses out about his abilities as a teacher, and he not only worries about the events of the day leading up to the war but he had been in the order before so he is in essence a veteran of the last war by his affiliation with the OOTP when Harry was just a baby. So Moody might not be the only one with PTSD. I guess maybe the difference between Hagrid and Moody is intelligence. Hagrid isn't much of an over-thinker and gets a lot of exercise to keep his demons in check. Moody by profession has to keep chasing evil and his head is always full of it so he is much more troubled. Dumbledore is a bumblebee. Big, loud, can but doesn't sting? Albus does devote his life to being powerful. He has always been a leader with a platform, a voice, and a sphere of influence. At Hogwarts he is a champion of a very long list of orphans who regard him as a gentle friend but also a capable defender. Of course this was all after he saw what becoming too powerful had cost him (his sister) so he does redirect himself well before we meet him as headmaster of the school. We know him to be crazy powerful by rumor only. We do understand like every good teacher, he probably knows more than he shows. We also know he loves candy (bees live on sugar too!) and can't outwit the Bertie Botts jelly beans. He also enjoys knitting and flashy clothing. These things help us see him as harmless. He only really loses his power after the curse is put upon him but even then he relinquishes power willingly and sacrifices himself to Snape. That ironically is a power move for the Order as it puts everything in place for Harry to have the wand, for Snape to still be in favor with Voldemort , which allows for Voldemort to be defeated. Here's a random Dumbledore thought. We know Dumbledore to be both wise and smart. Powerful but also gentle and fallible. So maybe the definition of a bumblebee AND the village idiot both apply. His lapses in judgment are key to the story, maybe even laying the groundwork for the story. He accidentally killed his sister which made him chase redemption and eventually positioned him at Hogwarts where he found and mentored Tom Riddle himself. He underestimated Harry's relationship to Voldemort on numerous occasions that put Harry in jeopardy and could have cost them everything. He messed with the ring out of an insatiable curiosity and unreasonable sense of bravado and took a fatal curse. And yet he was always able to make the best of the bad situations he created. What do we do with that?
I think Squibs can still see stuff like dementors though, which Muggles can’t. Of course Mrs Figg could have been lying about that part. Maybe she could just tell it was there by feel like even Muggles can, but felt saying she physically saw it too would be more convincing? Open to interpretation I guess.
I think your Dumbledore analysis is interesting. One thing about him is that he has achieved wisdom by consistently making a fool of himself in his younger days. He also has this weird idea about justice. See he firmly believes Garry has the right to face Voldemort. I can only assume this is because of his own past relationship with Grindelwald. Not only was he a former friend who became an enemy, but he likely caused the accident that killed Dumbledore’s sister. Grindelwald was always willing to go just a little further that’s Dumbledore remember. Add to this the whole Dumbledore might have been in love with Grindelwald thing (remember it was huge back when JKR first announced Dumbledore was gay, before she started inventing new stuff, back when it would have made sense). While there is no direct love connection like that between Harry and Voldemort, there are a lot of other similarities. Mortal enemies, one killed the other’s family, both Dumbledore and Harry are famous for defeating their respective dark wizards, they both had no parents sort of. Then there is the whole prophecy thing that says “neither can live while the other survives”. Pretty much saying that Harry and Voldemort have to fight it out. It all makes a kind of logical sense, but it’s also bat shit insane. Honestly I feel like a lot of stuff would have been solved if counseling was a thing in the Wizarding World. But no. All they’ve got is chocolate. Edit: I don’t think Dumbledore messed with the ring out of curiosity. There are prominent characters in the series who each correspond to one of the three brothers in the tale of the Deathly Hallows. Voldemort = the wand. Harry = Cloak. Dumbledore = The stone. Now they all actually own one of the Hallows. It’s just that two of them desired what one of the others had. Voldemort had the stone but found no value in it. He wanted the wand. While Dumbledore initially wanted the wand bet went through loosing his sister, and the red of his family, and so really wanted the stone. Harry too wanted the stone when he first heard of it, but ultimately wisdom prevailed and he stuck with his cloak. Still my point is that Dumbledore wasn’t just curious. He wants his family still. I bet he sees the same thing as Harry did when he looked into the Mirror back in HPatPS. Dumbledore is still a pretty emotional guy apparently. Gotta wonder how that affected his decisions.
It's actually related to "drone". It's "dore" that's the bee part. "Dumble" equates to "bumble". So really just a different word for "bumblebee". If I understand it correctly, basically it means "clumsy big bee".
He said “is that a drunk person not finding the toilet?” I took a screenshot of the picture and the creature’s backside is right over the woman’s lady-bits (sorry….I couldn’t use the right terminology here. YT may not like it 😂). So it looks like it is going to the toilet on her.
Potato bugs are still named Doryphores in French, from the Greek doruphóros, meaning spear-carrier. I wonder if it is the origin of "dore" meaning a humming insect in Old English, because of the stinger.
Two people in this episode were on very good terms with JK Rowling. Only one of them took a moral stand when she was revealed to be a hatemongering bigot. Pretty shameful of Fry to falter that easily when it comes to LGBT rights, but at least we know Radcliffe turned out rather fine despite getting ridiculously famous at a young age.
Or perhaps as a member of the LGBT community, Fry actually recognized that she isn't a bigot and is in fact a very vocal supporter of the community, and he consciously chose not to attack her for having a slightly different opinion about how to define a word that has only recently been challenged by society.
@@dannykent6190 Not following the news? She's literally using her Harry Potter millions to fund institutions that shut their doors in the faces of rape victims. The "disagreeing about the definition of a word" argument is very out of date, given her more recent actions. It's gone beyond a difference of opinion, she's very active in intentionally going out of her way to create institutions that openly discriminate and is basically bragging that she has enough money to ignore equality laws without being personally affected. You could make that argument 2 years ago, but not now.
I'm not a native English, but I knew Dumbledore means this fat adorable bee and was convinced this is like modern, broadly used term :D. Good I haven't made fool of my self speaking to some natives :D.
It’s not a common word no. It’s an old word most people don’t actually know anymore. Still you should keep using it. It’s a cute enough name to bring back. Just like I want to bring back gigglewater. That’s an old slang term for alcohol.
It just goes to show that she ripped off all of the content for her books and came up with nothing original. I couldn't read the books because they were so derivative and unoriginal.
There's also a poem entitled "Errantry" by J R R Tolkien that contains the lines; "He battled with the Dumbledors, the Hummerhorns, and Honeybees".
Now that is quite interesting! 👊
wow!
Crossover confirmed !
I mean… they did battle wizards too…
A poem for which he created a unique metre
Another quite interesting fact about dumbledores & bumblebees: Charles Darwin referred to them as humble-bees, as did his contemporaries.
Bottom refers to "the humble bee" in _A Midsummer Night's Dream._
Monsieur Cobweb, good monsieur, get you
your weapons in your hand and kill me a red-hipped
humble-bee on the top of a thistle, and, good
monsieur, bring me the honey-bag.
@@jb888888888 Another interesting source. The bees are widespread so the references are naturally also widespread. A quick internet look had showed me (in a couple of good sources) that humble-bee and bumblebee were both in use for centuries but humble-bee dominated until the early 20th century.
It's fun how two very different occurrences of the word popped up in our minds from very different personal knowledge.
humming humble-bees.
@@StarmanStarman better than bumming bumble-bees
Due to a slightly hysterical conversation which was too long & involved too much alcohol to explain here, in my family we now call them "crumble-knees"
It's lovely to see the seasonal ones showing up! It's always been my custom to watch the Christmas episodes on Christmas Day, though I've changed it in recent years as the episode count grew too large. This year I watched up through 'K' on Christmas Eve and finished the rest on Christmas Day.
I knew Dumbledore, because Czech Harry Potter translators translated it as "Brumbál" which is an Old Czech name for bumblebee. (Which they had to explain to readers as well, of course) They tried really hard to keep the original vibe of the words.
In Norway they translated it as Humlesnurr. Which does have the word for bumblebee in it.
Based.
Which is a WHOLE lot better then the Dutch did with Perkamentus, which basically translates to 'Parchementus' in English.. >.>
I would love to see Daniel Radcliffe on more shows like this(maybe not just Harry Potter themed since he’s done a lot of stuff since that that is honestly way better)
Chest hair.
daniel radcliffe on taskmaster would be wild
God no. He adds nothing to this show.
@@vinewhip I would love to see him on taskmaster.
@@sidecarmisanthrope5927 well, he acts as a target for the other comedians.
If that's the origin of "hagrid",. then I guess looking "haggard" means being worn out, exhausted...essentially how you'd look if you have nightmares every night for a week or two.
Haggard is probably a dialectical corruption of hag-rid. English did not have set spellings for words until after the publication of the first dictionaries, and pronunciation is still not standardised.
The suffix -ard means "someone who engages often in an activity"
So a haggard is someone who behaves like a hag.
think of sluggard.
@@JasonKaler They probably meant haggared
I just had the most glorious aha moment when they were talkning about “Hagrid”. See the Norwegian word for nightmare is “mareritt". Now a “mare” is a Nordic mythological creature, which could roughly translate to “hag”. Then you have “Ritt” which means “ride” or “a ride”. “Hagrid” must be a direct translation from that original Nordic word which became “mareritt” in Norwegian. It also probably explains the word nightmare itself. Night mare. The “mare” that comes and rides you at night. Wow isn’t language fun?
Fun fact: In the Norwegian translation Dumbledore is called Humlesnurr which translates to buzzing bumble bee.
What how come translators translate the names of the characters?, thats feels illegal.
@@educhann It's an all to common crime in Norwegian at least. When the content is targeted towards kids, they are very liberal with it. In the case of HP: Hermione Granger -> Hermine Grang, Weasly -> Wiltersen, Ron -> Ronny, Ginny-> Gulla, Neville Longbottom ->(brace yourself) Nilus Langballe (that's Longballs, in case the name wasn't similar enough), LeStrange -> DeMons, McGonnagall -> McSnurp (Snurp being a term for that sour face elderly has towards younger children they disapprove of). And my 2 personal favorites: Moaning Myrtle -> Stønne-Stina and Poppy Pomfrey -> Pussi Pomfrit.
The translator reasoned his choices with the fact that in their original language, many characters have names that somehow described them, and felt it would be a disservice to young readers that didn't know english to be robbed of the implications of their names. His favorite translated word for the series is Quidditch... -> Rumpeldunk. (Funnily his translated word for the Snitch is Snoppen. Snitch is, I believe, a word for someone revealing a trusted secret. Snoppen is a childish nickname for penis.)
@@jarlhenrik
Hope they didn't translate the author's name.
@@educhann Well, no. They never touch RL names, just fictional ones :p ANd Harry's name is t he same, since it's easy enough to say in norwegian as well ^^
@@jarlhenrik how excellent. Some wonderful names, equal to the originals I feel! Rumpledunk is brilliant!
"My dear Bumbly-dore, my horses need special assistance" makes a bit more sense now...
Wow, that's actually funny to see the Brits learning this, considering that HP is a British thing. All Czech HP fans know this, because the translator of the books changed the names to sound more Czech (since they were originally children's books) and repeatedly explained the meanings of both the English and Czech names in media.
So you're 'surprised' that people who are in the present wouldn't use older words or know their origins whereas people who have listened to audiobooks with specific, extra descriptions......do know them?
@@Tao_Tology No, I think they were surprised because they didn't realize the English words were so obscure, since the Czech version is much more direct and obvious about the meanings of the names.
You might be surprised to learn that there can be different connotations to the word "surprised". Czechs seem to know this already.
Interesting
@@Tao_Tology lol, no. There were no audiobooks when the books were coming out. The translator had to come up with his own words (based on words and sounds in present and old Czech) because Czech didn't have such old and obscure words. But because he made them up, people kept asking him in interviews what inspired him to create this or that word. And he always explained the meaning of the English name/word and his thought process with coming up with a Czech equivalent.
@@Domihork The medium isn't the point. 'lol'
1:21 I love how Stephen doesn’t even notice Graham copied what he said earlier.
that was amazing! he's just so happy for someone to know something!
I knew Dumbledore, but I didn't know hagrid was related to dreams, nor did I know the "hagridden" meaning. I just knew it meant disheveled and slightly disturbed. That's how I'd always heard it used. So I knew exactly what to expect from hagrid when I first heard the name. EDIT Apparently that word was haggard. It was permanently replaced with "Hagrid" in my mind once I got into Harry Potter.
I would speculate a similar etymology for both.
Well, Grawp did call him Haggar which is close enough.
I just had the most glorious aha moment when they were talkning about “Hagrid”. See the Norwegian word for nightmare is “mareritt". Now a “mare” is a Nordic mythological creature, which could roughly translate to “hag”. Then you have “Ritt” which means “ride” or “a ride”. “Hagrid” must be a direct translation from that original Nordic word which became “mareritt” in Norwegian. It also probably explains the word nightmare itself. Night mare. The “mare” that comes and rides you at night. Wow isn’t language fun?
(Yes this was just too good not to repost a few times.)
I never thought I'd say I'm a proud Muggle, but here I am...
Never before has a comment and username matched so perfectly
... oh how I want to like this... yet the child in me does not wish to spoil... the 69
Filthy little mudblood
Whole book series based on a guy who don't like stoners...
Why "proud"?
Hey! It’s the actor from the Weird Al movie!! Glad to see he has done one other thing.
I think Al would be delighted to hear you say that. (For that matter, I'll bet you Daniel would chuckle if he read your comment, too.)
Why's Weird Al putting on an accent for?
Nah, that's the guy from Horns!
Horns!
can't believe I only see one comment on Graham repeating what Stephen said and getting credit for it for a second! that was incredible, bless Stephen's heart
daniel radcliffe was so nice in this, so emotive too. Love him
Such a sweet good-natured chap, isn't he ☺️
"That's hilarious!"
I agree.
Also, seem like a good blook, a decent person.
For some reason I was very surprised when the camera angle changed and Daniel Radcliffe was sitting there. I mean, there have been some people on it who you would think are more random like Jerry Springer but I really wasn’t expecting Daniel on this show.
Interestingly enough, the Norwegian word for nightmare is “mareritt” which literally means “mare ride”, as in being ridden by a mare
That’s fascinating because what they are describing is often associated with sleep paralysis. The main symptoms of sleep paralysis are:
- waking up after being asleep
- being unable to move
- feeling a heavy weight on your chest
- seeing people or creatures that aren’t there (mostly creatures)
- a deep sense of fear.
Common myths and things that possibly have origins in sleep paralysis include: Succubi/Incubi, Aliens, Jinn and many others.
“I wear a Fez now, Fezzes are cool.”
Geronimo!
At the very start of this video, you see words on a greenboard. This is the "I before E, but not after C" question that gave us all the Stephen Fry saying: "You cannot be that stupid!"
"Visited by witches in the night" means something very different in a wizarding world than real life, homeslice is a player.
Not necessarily, or well, literally yes, because Hags and Witches are similar, yet different things.
But being visited by a witch, hag, alp or succubus will leave the sleeper in roughly the same state.
Well well well!
That was actually quite interesting.
Thank you for that I enjoyed it.
QI makes learning random Trivia Information fun because of the comedy
I would want Dumbledore since he’s the only one of the three that played Quidditch.
I think the setup is whether you'd want someone high on weed, someone who couldn't sleep because they had bad dreams, or a bumblebee on your Quidditch team. The narrative did get a little windy, though.
@@roguishpaladin Couldn’t a bumblebee double as a Snitch? Seems pretty convenient to me.
This was brilliant, there's a huge number of old words out of use or lesser known got a new lease of life thanks to the Harry Potter books 😊
You'd want a muggle to your quidditch team because they're high.
In old Swedish they would call the "hagg" in haggridden "the Mara". Which I can only assume is the root of nightMARE (as the root of the swedish name for nightmare: Mardröm, Mardream).
Maybe? But also, "mare" means a female horse, and a lot of classical art depicts nightmares as literal horses (including the one shown in this video).
@@IceMetalPunk While searching the etymology of the word, it seems that it does indeed referes to the succubus/goblin/spirit/hag of Mara, and not the horse. Maybe the horse connotation was a later interpetation for people whos language had forgotten the name of the Mara?
They where female (sexual) spirits that came in the night and rode on the sleeping males, they could slip in through any cracks to feed on the energy of its victims. And usually they returned for a long time to torment them. People put iron and pages from psalm books in the cracks of their house to ward them of.
I just had the most glorious aha moment when they were talkning about “Hagrid”. See the Norwegian word for nightmare is “mareritt". Now a “mare” is a Nordic mythological creature, which could roughly translate to “hag”. Then you have “Ritt” which means “ride” or “a ride”. “Hagrid” must be a direct translation from that original Nordic word which became “mareritt” in Norwegian. It also probably explains the word nightmare itself. Night mare. The “mare” that comes and rides you at night. Wow isn’t language fun?
(Yes this was just too good not to repost a few times.)
@@IceMetalPunk The Norwegian word is Mareritt. A direct translation of Hagrid. It has to be related.
So who's the best choice to field in a Quidditch team? A stoner, an insomniac, or a bee?
bee, obviously, they already fly and can sting the opposing team
While the previous two would probably both fall off the broom.
1:11 Daniel looks very much like a muggle there.
I'd like to believe Dumbledore is also an allusion to Mr Bumble in Oliver Twist. Whereas Mr Bumble was a cruel caretaker, Dumbledore was kind and wise.
Another allusion to Oliver Twist I believe was Voldemort's birth. His mother walked into an orphanage and died giving birth to him there in a strange town as Oliver's did. And again the story then went different ways.
I love QI, and how it presents educational material in a such a fun format. That being said, I was mesmerized by Dan Radcliffe's chest hair THE ENTIRE TIME. I just want to dive in there and make a bed for myself and never leave.
You know the older I get the more I appreciate Daniel’s attitude, and also just Daniel in general.
You and me have very different views on chest hair.
Daniel was superb on this.
If by "superb" you mean boring. Then, yes I would agree.
@@sidecarmisanthrope5927 You are wrong, and your comment has no worth. I bet you are fascinating. 🤦♂️
@@wisteela : I bet you think that you are fascinating. That would be due to the Dunning Kruger effect.
@@sidecarmisanthrope5927 Oh do shut up. You sound like a great example of it. Now go away, and tell somebody that cares.
@@wisteela : Well, with all your whining. It is obvious that you care.
Your comment reads like a 3rd grade comeback. "I know you are, you said you are but what am I"? 🤦🏼♂🤦🏼♂🤣🤣
Not too sharp there are you Skippy.
A Dumbledore is a mid level Vauxhall sedan from the early 90s.
A Dumbledore is also a second-generation Camaro from later 90s in transformers movies.
"What's the horse doing?"
"That's the night-mare."
Deserved to have a laugh/groan instead of moving straight on in the edit.
But it wasn't a joke.
The mare in that picture was supposed to present exactly that, the entire painting's name was 'The Nightmare'. Henry Fuseli painted it and the incubus because both were believed to be reasons/depictions of terrible sleep at the time (the late 18th century).
@@refragerator that's interesting because in arabic countries when we find someone sleep walking we say he's been hit by the night donkey, which is supposed to be an old folklore mythical creature or something
Daniel, people can barely hear your lapel mic.
"I don't care, it's very important they see my chest hair!"
When he was performing the play "Equus", folks got to see a lot more than just his chest hair...
Lol, men appear on shows with unbuttoned shirts, you only think it's strange because "it's Harry Potter"
@@Tao_Tology Harry Potter, more like Hairy Potter
2:25 British version of “what the dog doin?”
The dumbledore is where Peter Andre keeps his weights.
Hagrid😥
That young man seems very excited about all the J.K.Rowling stuff.
That young man is Daniel Radcliffe, the actor that played Harry Potter in all of the films.
@@utha2665 I believe it was a joke
@@utha2665 : What a shame his acting got worse with each movie.
@@sidecarmisanthrope5927 Haters be haters.
@@utha2665 :So, anyone with an opinion that differs to yours must be a hater in your eyes? That sounds a bit hateful.
A Dumbledore is a type of flower, too.
I knew about Dumbledore and Hagrid (and like Dan I remember reading the latter in The Mayor of Casterbridge), but "muggle" was new info to me.
Fun fact: before the 1920s, "muggle" already existed, but with yet different meanings. In Shakespeare's time, it meant "sweetheart", and in Middle English, it meant "fish tail".
Daniel looking so chuffed when he found out that muggle meant stoner hahahaha
British Talk shows are really cool sometimes...I like this one...
It’s a shame that Daniel become a series regular. He’s got a charm to him that I appreciate
Did Daniel become a series regular?
*didn't
Think he’s got better things to do
He was so adorably nervous in that episode.
Yeah. All the charm of a dullard.
Where can I see series t in Australia?
Dan ❤:)
i believe “Dumbledore” is specifically old Dorset slang but i could be mistaken
It's more likely just old language that survived in regional dialects. That is often the way with language. :-)
I wouldn't mind a witch coming to me in the night, as long as it was Hermione. Or Luna.
i love Graham
So which of those would be of use in a game of Quiddich? Marijuana (users)?
01:13 Dan's a bit of a Muggle here himself amirite?
Dumbledoor is on the closet where you keep your guitar amp.
Dumbledore is an old isle of wight term for for bumblebee. We still use it here every now and then!
Nightmares have nothing to do with horses though. The 'mare' in there is a type of demon that sits on your breast when you sleep. Same origin as the German Mahr which means the same. In Middle English, the female horse was 'mare' or 'mere' and in Old English it was mīere. Whereas the 'mare' in 'nightmare' was already 'mare' in Old English.
I once had a German Couchsurfer going by the name Nachtmahr so I had to check the etymology (in modern German, a nightmare is 'Alptraum', and I had never heard 'Nachtmahr' before, so I was intrigued) :-P
That's from the old Norse though. They believed the demon Mara would sit on your chest, causing nightmares. Dream in Swedish for example is dröm, and a nightmare is mardröm.
Different cultures had different believes and superstitions.
@@Ikajo ohh, it might be related to norwegian in some way actually. we call it a "mareritt" ritt meaning ride so it seem to be a direct translation to hagrid or hagridden
@@FakeCou Not impossible, the Old Norse settled in parts of the UK. You can still find words in the English language that originated from Scandinavia.
in dutch, its nachtmerrie, and merrie is the same as mare.
@@Ikajo that's not exclusive to the Norsemen though
My first guess would be "stupid ancient entrance".
I know that Mundungus means bad tobacco.
Pretty interesting, but I don't know how they ended on bee from dumble, lol.
I remember learning the bumble bee thing years ago, relating to Dumbledore buzzing around his office. I think.
"Dumbledore! Stop lubricating the man!"
why did i make this joke
The most British interaction ever
The boy who quizzed.
So that's my Dumbledore is called Humlesnurr in Norwegian!
I'm paradoxical then, as in I'm simultaneously a muggle and not a muggle
I’d rather be a muggle non-muggle than a non-muggle muggle, myself.
I too am a weed-smoking wizard!
I know Rowling is a bit of a weird character, and I've rolled my eyes at some of the things I've heard from her in the past decade or so; but I admit I've been kind of impressed with her ability to reference relatively obscure ideas and names in the Harry Potter books lol. When I was a kid I wouldn't have guessed that there was much of a "foundation" behind much in those books, but almost everything you can think of has some kind of place in history; be it old language almost no modern person knows, relatively obscure mythology, or alchemy. I can see some people concluding that means she's "copying" or lacks originality, but I'm confident that's not a fair take. Good stories, almost by definition, have to call on old, deep, buried ideas and reframe them in new ways. It's worth noting that some of the most successful works of the modern era (I'm thinking HP and Lotr right now) were evidently written by authors who were consciously being influenced by some quite old ideas and bringing them to modern people
As C.S. Lewis put it, trying for originality is a pointless game because sooner or later someone will find a similarity with something else anyway, or it just won't be a good story; it's better to just try and tell the good story you want to tell, and if you do, you may just strike gold anyway, simply because you're a unique individual telling the story your own way. Rough paraphrase. :-)
is that why a doremouse is called a doremouse ? do they hum? Or just hang around the same flowers that the bees did?
They sleep a lot.
From stem of _dormir_ 'to sleep,' see _dormant_
@@AndrewTBP ahh, thanks :) that's even cuter... "sleepy mouse" :)
@@sarcasticstartrek7719 Yeah they hibernate for literally half a year or longer
Apparently I have been unwittingly servicing entire covens lately.
Daniel looks like a muggle in this one. Anyway, everyone knows that Dumbledore means "headmaster" 😏
I'm being a muggle watching this video.
Interesting choices for JK now that we know what the words mean.
Muggle is a stoner. Non magic folk don't have magic skills but does that make them dull? I guess maybe I never thought that in those terms. I did always think that squibs must be the disabled people in their families but they would not be really any different than muggles. So maybe if a squib is really just a muggle then maybe that's not such a leap.
Hagrid. Sufferer of nightmares. That's pretty spot on for a man who was abandoned by his mother, orphaned by his father, rejected by his people, framed by his classmate, and then expelled from his only home. He was sent to Azkaban because of Buckbeak and Grawp was too rough and hurt him. Plus he worries about Dumbledore and Harry, Grawp, and also all his animal friends like and Firenze, Norbert, and Aragog. He stresses out about his abilities as a teacher, and he not only worries about the events of the day leading up to the war but he had been in the order before so he is in essence a veteran of the last war by his affiliation with the OOTP when Harry was just a baby. So Moody might not be the only one with PTSD. I guess maybe the difference between Hagrid and Moody is intelligence. Hagrid isn't much of an over-thinker and gets a lot of exercise to keep his demons in check. Moody by profession has to keep chasing evil and his head is always full of it so he is much more troubled.
Dumbledore is a bumblebee. Big, loud, can but doesn't sting? Albus does devote his life to being powerful. He has always been a leader with a platform, a voice, and a sphere of influence. At Hogwarts he is a champion of a very long list of orphans who regard him as a gentle friend but also a capable defender. Of course this was all after he saw what becoming too powerful had cost him (his sister) so he does redirect himself well before we meet him as headmaster of the school. We know him to be crazy powerful by rumor only. We do understand like every good teacher, he probably knows more than he shows. We also know he loves candy (bees live on sugar too!) and can't outwit the Bertie Botts jelly beans. He also enjoys knitting and flashy clothing. These things help us see him as harmless. He only really loses his power after the curse is put upon him but even then he relinquishes power willingly and sacrifices himself to Snape. That ironically is a power move for the Order as it puts everything in place for Harry to have the wand, for Snape to still be in favor with Voldemort , which allows for Voldemort to be defeated.
Here's a random Dumbledore thought. We know Dumbledore to be both wise and smart. Powerful but also gentle and fallible. So maybe the definition of a bumblebee AND the village idiot both apply. His lapses in judgment are key to the story, maybe even laying the groundwork for the story. He accidentally killed his sister which made him chase redemption and eventually positioned him at Hogwarts where he found and mentored Tom Riddle himself. He underestimated Harry's relationship to Voldemort on numerous occasions that put Harry in jeopardy and could have cost them everything. He messed with the ring out of an insatiable curiosity and unreasonable sense of bravado and took a fatal curse. And yet he was always able to make the best of the bad situations he created. What do we do with that?
I think Squibs can still see stuff like dementors though, which Muggles can’t. Of course Mrs Figg could have been lying about that part. Maybe she could just tell it was there by feel like even Muggles can, but felt saying she physically saw it too would be more convincing? Open to interpretation I guess.
I think your Dumbledore analysis is interesting. One thing about him is that he has achieved wisdom by consistently making a fool of himself in his younger days. He also has this weird idea about justice. See he firmly believes Garry has the right to face Voldemort. I can only assume this is because of his own past relationship with Grindelwald. Not only was he a former friend who became an enemy, but he likely caused the accident that killed Dumbledore’s sister. Grindelwald was always willing to go just a little further that’s Dumbledore remember. Add to this the whole Dumbledore might have been in love with Grindelwald thing (remember it was huge back when JKR first announced Dumbledore was gay, before she started inventing new stuff, back when it would have made sense). While there is no direct love connection like that between Harry and Voldemort, there are a lot of other similarities. Mortal enemies, one killed the other’s family, both Dumbledore and Harry are famous for defeating their respective dark wizards, they both had no parents sort of.
Then there is the whole prophecy thing that says “neither can live while the other survives”. Pretty much saying that Harry and Voldemort have to fight it out. It all makes a kind of logical sense, but it’s also bat shit insane.
Honestly I feel like a lot of stuff would have been solved if counseling was a thing in the Wizarding World. But no. All they’ve got is chocolate.
Edit: I don’t think Dumbledore messed with the ring out of curiosity. There are prominent characters in the series who each correspond to one of the three brothers in the tale of the Deathly Hallows. Voldemort = the wand. Harry = Cloak. Dumbledore = The stone. Now they all actually own one of the Hallows. It’s just that two of them desired what one of the others had. Voldemort had the stone but found no value in it. He wanted the wand. While Dumbledore initially wanted the wand bet went through loosing his sister, and the red of his family, and so really wanted the stone. Harry too wanted the stone when he first heard of it, but ultimately wisdom prevailed and he stuck with his cloak. Still my point is that Dumbledore wasn’t just curious. He wants his family still. I bet he sees the same thing as Harry did when he looked into the Mirror back in HPatPS. Dumbledore is still a pretty emotional guy apparently. Gotta wonder how that affected his decisions.
So to the wizarding world we are all potheads. Nice
Potterhead or pothead or both?
Did Graham shave his beard or is this an older episode?
Ok, I just found out that Series H was aired between September 2010 and May 2011.
Dumbledore, dumble = bees, but dore could be from the French for gold, d'or as in the honey!
It's actually related to "drone". It's "dore" that's the bee part. "Dumble" equates to "bumble". So really just a different word for "bumblebee". If I understand it correctly, basically it means "clumsy big bee".
A mare in this case is a kind of demon.
So why would I want a junkie, a nightmare sufferer, a village idiot or a bumblebee on my quidditch team?
Dan is so hot here
That chest hair. My god
The full episode can be found here ua-cam.com/video/3ZaudVd9WAY/v-deo.html if, as I did, you just stumbled upon this video :)
What does Graham Norton say about the drunk person and the toilet? I can't make it out.
Same. Commenting to follow this comment 👀
"Is it the one who looks like Julius Caesar is about to be sick in a bucket?"
He said “is that a drunk person not finding the toilet?” I took a screenshot of the picture and the creature’s backside is right over the woman’s lady-bits (sorry….I couldn’t use the right terminology here. YT may not like it 😂). So it looks like it is going to the toilet on her.
@@marypridham3823 yep, that sounds right. Tnx
Well Dumbledore is a type of gollum
QI is good, but it's no _Hollywoo Stars and Celebrities: What Do They Know? Do They Know Things?? Let's Find Out!_
Potato bugs are still named Doryphores in French, from the Greek doruphóros, meaning spear-carrier.
I wonder if it is the origin of "dore" meaning a humming insect in Old English, because of the stinger.
If I look it up, it's actually related to "drone", through old Indo-European roots.
Jk rowling really is a fascinating writer. How smart and interesting it was to pick lesser known words like these
Stolen, actually. Rowling is an utter POS.
Dumbledore isn't the way It's spelled. It's supposed to be Dumbbell-door.
Wait till the kids sees this thing about Muggles.
Btw, have you heard of the #SaveSoil #ConsciousPlanet movement before?🌎🌍🌏
I'm a muggle.
Two people in this episode were on very good terms with JK Rowling. Only one of them took a moral stand when she was revealed to be a hatemongering bigot. Pretty shameful of Fry to falter that easily when it comes to LGBT rights, but at least we know Radcliffe turned out rather fine despite getting ridiculously famous at a young age.
Yeah, yeah.
How curious how your comment look so much as pure bigotry.
Or perhaps as a member of the LGBT community, Fry actually recognized that she isn't a bigot and is in fact a very vocal supporter of the community, and he consciously chose not to attack her for having a slightly different opinion about how to define a word that has only recently been challenged by society.
@@dannykent6190 Not following the news? She's literally using her Harry Potter millions to fund institutions that shut their doors in the faces of rape victims. The "disagreeing about the definition of a word" argument is very out of date, given her more recent actions. It's gone beyond a difference of opinion, she's very active in intentionally going out of her way to create institutions that openly discriminate and is basically bragging that she has enough money to ignore equality laws without being personally affected. You could make that argument 2 years ago, but not now.
@@dannykent6190 Amen
I'm disappointed Daniel Radcliffe didn't know bumblebee
Did you know “Rowling” also has an interesting meaning as well. It means “hateful hag”.
The more you know 🌈⭐️
I'm not a native English, but I knew Dumbledore means this fat adorable bee and was convinced this is like modern, broadly used term :D. Good I haven't made fool of my self speaking to some natives :D.
It’s not a common word no. It’s an old word most people don’t actually know anymore. Still you should keep using it. It’s a cute enough name to bring back. Just like I want to bring back gigglewater. That’s an old slang term for alcohol.
But weed is magical, man!
So the question is "do you want a stoner, an insomniac, or a bee on your team?"
I remember seeing a sticker on a car saying “muggles on board.” That takes on a whole new meaning now!
No it doesn't.
This video is even funnier when you're a muggle. 😁
Graham Norton is not bad at all
Oh wow, when did Weird Al appear on QI??
It just goes to show that she ripped off all of the content for her books and came up with nothing original. I couldn't read the books because they were so derivative and unoriginal.
And people said the weed smokers were Hufflepuffs, hah!
Proud muggle
Muggles are Stoners ?? 🤣
wow
Precious precious? You're in the wrong franchise my man!