The very author of the citizenship clause, Sen. Jacob Howard of Michigan, expressly said: "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers."
@@bgarsha8681 google "Jacob Howard" and "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers." in a google search and youll find lots of places talking about this
Also, Under the Left's interpretation of the 14th Amendment, American Samoans from parents who are not US citizens should be automatically granted citizenship at birth. But they aren't.
The exclusion of the child of foreign of ambassador , or forgein ministers , actually stated in constuction. The supreme Court ruling actually makes the statements , people of Chinese or gin , parents whom have established permanent residence and domicile . Who are not working for the Chinese government , are automatically citizens of the United States
Allow me to state my proposal in the simplest manner possible , it goes like this ... "Only a Citizen of the United States Can Give Birth to a Citizen of the United States" ... let the US National discussion begin ... I plan to repeat this proposal frequently in social media forums , news commentary , etc, until others begin to talk about it in effort to progress the discussion ...
@@VivaSaludableconMarla ... dam , I posted this a year ago and you are the only one who replied ... one of two things has apparently happened , either NO ONE wanted to talk about it (which I strongly doubt) , or I my post was shadow banned (censored) ... how is it you see my basically non-existent post from a year ago ??? ... anyway Hi there ...
Just an FYI. That is not the American flag there. Also, the 14th Amendment establishes a federal class designation of citizenship. An inferior class of citizen subject to the whims of Congress and all the statutory bullshit they can impose upon you for claiming to be a U.S. citizen as opposed to being a State Citizen. What they are not telling you is the "United States" has three different meanings (Hooven and Allison Co. v Evatt 1945). One of which is defined in 28 USC § 3002 15 (a) - a federal corporation. This corporate fiction is the entity you are subject to by declaring a US citizenship without specification, but you wouldn't know this because they are not telling anyone and it is not taught in schools. This corporate fiction was created by the 41st Congress via the Congressional Act of 1871, an act to provide a government for Washington DC. This was done without the consent of the people as there was no delegated authority to do so. By 1933 this creation was bankrupt as a direct result of the federal reserve act of 1913. What a swindle just like this video. What do you get for your US citizenship? You get the National debt, that's what you get. You are the surety for that. You get your rights converted to privileges and immunities. You get to pay for licenses, you get property taxes, income taxes... You get absolutely nothing in return. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong.
We need to repeal amendment 11 of 1913. This amendment gives the federal government the power to directly tax us Art 1 clearly says that congress should apportion the states to pay taxes
Thank you for an insightful and educational discussion on the issue. Obviously the constitution and it's amendments, while appearing on the surface to be "plain" english, have a lot more supporting requirements that we can only ascertain with the assistance of the efforts of constitutional scholars. The second speaker (constitutional scholar) laid out the issue in terms that make total sense. It would be helpful if you could publish the names and backgrounds of the speakers.
perpetual allegiance and jus soli are not the same principle …………………...the founders did reject the concept of perpetual allegiance in the Declaration but it did not reject jus soli in the Declaration
the last speaker presented no legal argument against birthright citizenship...…………………………...I guess he doesn't have enough knowledge about the subject to present a legal argument against the concept
perpetual allegiance and jus soli are not the same principle …………………...the founders did reject the concept of perpetual allegiance in the Declaration but it did not reject jus soli in the Declaration
The very author of the citizenship clause, Sen. Jacob Howard of Michigan, expressly said: "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers."
Where can I find proof of this?
@@bgarsha8681 google "Jacob Howard" and "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers." in a google search and youll find lots of places talking about this
@@bgarsha8681 Read thefederalistpapers.org/us/author-of-14th-amendment-explains-exactly-who-it-was-meant-for
Also, Under the Left's interpretation of the 14th Amendment, American Samoans from parents who are not US citizens should be automatically granted citizenship at birth. But they aren't.
The exclusion of the child of foreign of ambassador , or forgein ministers , actually stated in constuction. The supreme Court ruling actually makes the statements , people of Chinese or gin , parents whom have established permanent residence and domicile . Who are not working for the Chinese government , are automatically citizens of the United States
Allow me to state my proposal in the simplest manner possible , it goes like this ... "Only a Citizen of the United States Can Give Birth to a Citizen of the United States" ... let the US National discussion begin ... I plan to repeat this proposal frequently in social media forums , news commentary , etc, until others begin to talk about it in effort to progress the discussion ...
Pretty much.😃
@@VivaSaludableconMarla ... dam , I posted this a year ago and you are the only one who replied ... one of two things has apparently happened , either NO ONE wanted to talk about it (which I strongly doubt) , or I my post was shadow banned (censored) ... how is it you see my basically non-existent post from a year ago ??? ... anyway Hi there ...
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@@VivaSaludableconMarla ... OK then ..
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Just an FYI. That is not the American flag there. Also, the 14th Amendment establishes a federal class designation of citizenship. An inferior class of citizen subject to the whims of Congress and all the statutory bullshit they can impose upon you for claiming to be a U.S. citizen as opposed to being a State Citizen. What they are not telling you is the "United States" has three different meanings (Hooven and Allison Co. v Evatt 1945). One of which is defined in 28 USC § 3002 15 (a) - a federal corporation. This corporate fiction is the entity you are subject to by declaring a US citizenship without specification, but you wouldn't know this because they are not telling anyone and it is not taught in schools. This corporate fiction was created by the 41st Congress via the Congressional Act of 1871, an act to provide a government for Washington DC. This was done without the consent of the people as there was no delegated authority to do so. By 1933 this creation was bankrupt as a direct result of the federal reserve act of 1913. What a swindle just like this video.
What do you get for your US citizenship? You get the National debt, that's what you get. You are the surety for that. You get your rights converted to privileges and immunities. You get to pay for licenses, you get property taxes, income taxes... You get absolutely nothing in return.
I challenge anyone to prove me wrong.
The democrats held power from 1890-1950 and they created the programs we have now. Progressives then are like now
We need to repeal amendment 11 of 1913. This amendment gives the federal government the power to directly tax us
Art 1 clearly says that congress should apportion the states to pay taxes
Exactly everyone wants to be a citizen like it’s a reward rather a fraud alert
Can you post more background information about the speakers in the comments? Right now there is none.
Thanks.
This so-called "MODERATOR" is too long-winded! His talk is pure ranting ludicrous! Nothing but HOT AIR!
The Case against NPC Citizenship.
Thank you for an insightful and educational discussion on the issue.
Obviously the constitution and it's amendments, while appearing on the surface to be "plain" english, have a lot more supporting requirements that we can only ascertain with the assistance of the efforts of constitutional scholars.
The second speaker (constitutional scholar) laid out the issue in terms that make total sense.
It would be helpful if you could publish the names and backgrounds of the speakers.
perpetual allegiance and jus soli are not the same principle …………………...the founders did reject the concept of perpetual allegiance in the Declaration but it did not reject jus soli in the Declaration
the last speaker presented no legal argument against birthright citizenship...…………………………...I guess he doesn't have enough knowledge about the subject to present a legal argument against the concept
Isn't this one of the actual main issues our country was built upon and founded Annette what makes the foundation of America
It’s weird that they no arguments on any other amendment in the constitution
Have you never heard of the 2nd Amendment?
We are concerned about Kamala Harris.
Lol I am very concerned
@@Rhondior 🤪 but you should be
@@RhondiorAnchor baby
when did the founders say we consent to the laws by not leaving?
Weren’t these arguments made before the 14th Amendment?
What does natural mean
Makes sense
ok
Please end it as soon as possible or find a way to stop abuse by say Chinese.
Too much small talk
The case for birthright citizenship = it's in the Constitution, whether you like it or not..
perpetual allegiance and jus soli are not the same principle …………………...the founders did reject the concept of perpetual allegiance in the Declaration but it did not reject jus soli in the Declaration
The second speaker's argument about the 14th amendment really made no sense. And his rejection of the plain language argument was disingenuous.