This is the most realistic prediction because it doesn't solve the problem with Snake-Eyes. The issue is that the deck will just run Birch instead of Oak. We need to hit consistency cards on top of a ban, and while the Flamberge limit is great, it doesn't really hinder turn 1 plays beyond Ghost Belle being a decent counter. This was something that you correctly identified in your "Snake Eyes is Ruining Yugioh" video: we need to reduce the amount of starters that the deck has on top of an engine ban (which would most likely be Oak). Like, keep in mind: when we finally hit Tear, we limited 7 cards on top of the Kitkallos ban. While limiting Flamberge does greatly hinder the deck's grind game, it doesn't change the fact that its end board is stupidly good due to how consistent the deck is. We need to limit some starters, especially since the only thing the changes in this video does is hurt the pure variant. We need to be addressing the deck across the board.
I would have taken a ban oak in the previous balist. Now I wanna see much more, like a flammerge ban, to keep the deck as a viable fire engine, but not a pure strong deck.
Honestly I don't mind if Snake-Eyes was outright killed off at this point. I don't think anything will take them off the top of the meta short of taking away a critical piece. You've had enough time to get your money's worth and latecomers should have known better.
Just a ban an limit isn’t gonna be enough for snake eyes. If you don’t wanna kill the deck while hitting its power I think an additional limit to SE ash is also a must. The main issue with snake eyes being hit is while it’s a powerful deck it’s unbelievably fragile banning oak is the only ban that won’t kill the deck
I wish Konami would focus on making theor game better in terms of Healthy, fun and interactive gameplay. They could also fix their prizing when it comes to tournaments as well
Give Snake Eyes the Tear treatment hits : Ash, Poplar, Flamberge, OSS, Temple to 1 Oak, Birch to 2 -i wouldnt hit Wanted / Diabellestarr, for lore future support
Honestly as someone who presently just built tenpai I’d be a little bummed it got a hit. But I guess I’d rather it receive a semi limit Over a limited or ban. I just like synchro summoning.
"changes konami will be trying to make to fix the game" = "changes konami will be trying to make to make the game still sellable, while preparing another broken set of cards" PS: can we unban halq pls, I wanna play magikey already
What a competent list. Konami must hate you for your teaching of how to fix their game without not making they broke. Your only failure is not understanding ALL ygo cards are created with Maxx C in mind originally.
Agree with your list. Also want to say, Master Duel added an animation for Heavy Storm, which was also a big hint the card gets of the banlist. Personally I just wish for Snake Eyes to get killed. They had their 6 months and I'm sick of them. Don't even want to know what they can do with fiendsmith...
One of my banlist ideas was the ban oak limit flamberge I feel the deck is still gonna be the best but if you can dd crow the flamberge or cosmic it in the spell trap zone or something they have no way to get it back and struggle the rest of the game
Genroku and Dora Draco give a large consistency boost to Tenpai, more than losing 2 copies of Sangen Summoning would take away. All that wouldn't be recouped by the new releases would be the consistency of the protection that Sangen Summoning gives to insulate the OTK play before the battle phase
As a Majespecter player, I can confidently say that there would be no difference in bringing Kirin to 2 or 3. It’s a 1 of in the deck and a brick that you never want to see in hand.
What does Snake-Eyes even do if you ban Flamberge? Does it go back to the Diabellstar omni-negate trap set-up in decks like R-ACE, or can it still do link climbing lines in decks like Fire King? Mostly asking since I havent had time to lab it out.
I'd swap Flamberge with I:P personally but keep the other two bans. I:P is also a problem partly for its interaction with Flamberge and will keep getting stronger as time goes on and more link 2+ monsters come out, so removing it instead solves multiple problems at once. I:P and Apollousa were additional offenders contributing to the same problem as Baronne and Borreload Savage where combo decks harmonize to minor variations of the same endboards.
@BuddhaMelffyQueen there are literally dozens of floodgates, but hugin is the card that enables stun to grab 3 floodgates in one turn; it's scummy and unhealthy to play against
@BuddhaMelffyQueen It's because you sound ridiculous. Do we want all floodgates banned or limited? Yes, however, Konami bans maybe 1 or 2 floodgates per banlist, if they ever bother. And monster floodgates are also a thing, and they've never been touched. So realistically, the one's that are banned are the cards providing massive card advantage, generic, and are overall degenerate, such as your coveted hugin along with all the rest mentioned in the video. But we'll find out, and if hugin does get hit, cope
This really goes to show how Konami would rather sink with the ship making money in the short term than prefer to actually promote a healthy game that retains players in the long term for further gain, don’t even get me started on how tournaments aren’t worth the price to attend for what you spend vs what you get, no wonder everyone is switching to Magic, One Piece, or Digimon sheesh
people that want sanctifire banned got hit with puppet once and are still butthurt about it Banning the literal climax card of the lore of albaz is beyond silly and full of copium Banning it is like asking for the head of exodia to be banned because you opened no handtraps against a deep draw deck and they were able to pull off the ftk what needs to happen is an errata, make it so the monster summoned to the opp field has its effects negated and cant activate its effects, same for expulsion, that literally fixes all the issues with those cards
@@FyrenReiThis, so much this! Every zoomer is cope seethe rent freeing the coomer doomers and sneed feed and seed, they're locked and KEYED and SOVL and /pol/cel bloomer soulless slop black people(nah but seriously I'm not a racist, that's a /pol/cel thing, so please don't tell me to go back to /pol/ cuz I'm not ok) kino peak fiction!
You really want to change the game? Stop playing it, stop making content for it, start making content for other games. Start showing Konami with your wallet. If you continue to buy and play they will continue to see you as garbage with money
Maxx C is at 3 in OCG and Master Duel. Honestly at this point its more weird that we DONT have it in tcg. And the godawful multchummy isnt an excuse since they did not ban Maxx C on the recent OCG banlist
My brothers in Ra, Albion the Sanctifier is not a turn skip... GIMMICK PUPPET KNIGHTMARE is the turn skip. The argument that knightmare could be replaced by others is correct, but there is a reason us branded players use gimmick puppet and not the "replacements", with there being far more outs to the replacements. PLEASE LEAVE SANC ALONE KONAMI!
Ra doesn’t have lingering effects, and can’t be sent off of sanctifire, yugioh players just whine too much. Mentioning branded while snake eyes is tier 0 is just wild anyways. Even at full power branded isn’t as consistent as the other decks. Not to mention branded is running hardly any hand traps and loses to them constantly.
Agreed with you. The problem card is only Gimmick Puppet Nightmare, not any of the others. The reason why Branded players lock with Nightmare is because it's a legal target for Granguignol send him from Deck to GY. Just ban Gimmick Puppet Nightmare, and you pretty much fix the lock in a realistical way
killing snake eyes even banning everything is NOT gonna fix yugioh... yugioh is beyond fixing unless a big new master rule comes and the game does a full reset somehow...you say snake eyes is the problem and every deck that inevitebly becomes tier 0 cuz it just synergizes that well but then konami goes on and prints constantly more and more broken cards and full on broken archetypes that are literally splashable in any top tier deck strategy like they just did with fiendsmith instead of focusing more on building the archetypes step by step by making support cards for the said archetype ..
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This is the most realistic prediction because it doesn't solve the problem with Snake-Eyes.
The issue is that the deck will just run Birch instead of Oak. We need to hit consistency cards on top of a ban, and while the Flamberge limit is great, it doesn't really hinder turn 1 plays beyond Ghost Belle being a decent counter. This was something that you correctly identified in your "Snake Eyes is Ruining Yugioh" video: we need to reduce the amount of starters that the deck has on top of an engine ban (which would most likely be Oak).
Like, keep in mind: when we finally hit Tear, we limited 7 cards on top of the Kitkallos ban. While limiting Flamberge does greatly hinder the deck's grind game, it doesn't change the fact that its end board is stupidly good due to how consistent the deck is. We need to limit some starters, especially since the only thing the changes in this video does is hurt the pure variant. We need to be addressing the deck across the board.
Bro ban flameberge solves aloytttt
that would make it rogue tier at best
the deck is not strong, endboard is really fragile even when going full combo, it just cant be properly interrupted and has too much follow up
Do you think purrely could be involved in the banlist?
if anything it gets cards back from the list imo
Give snake eyes the same treatment like tears 🤷🏽♂️
Na nope I don't think it will tears was different this one ppl hate more than that format
This is the best take on any banlist prediction of recent.
I would have taken a ban oak in the previous balist. Now I wanna see much more, like a flammerge ban, to keep the deck as a viable fire engine, but not a pure strong deck.
Honestly I don't mind if Snake-Eyes was outright killed off at this point. I don't think anything will take them off the top of the meta short of taking away a critical piece. You've had enough time to get your money's worth and latecomers should have known better.
Just a ban an limit isn’t gonna be enough for snake eyes. If you don’t wanna kill the deck while hitting its power I think an additional limit to SE ash is also a must. The main issue with snake eyes being hit is while it’s a powerful deck it’s unbelievably fragile banning oak is the only ban that won’t kill the deck
youre right, this isnt enough for snake eye, i predict konami wont be super strict with it just yet. I hope they limit ash to 1 eventually though
I wish Konami would focus on making theor game better in terms of Healthy, fun and interactive gameplay. They could also fix their prizing when it comes to tournaments as well
Give Snake Eyes the Tear treatment hits :
Ash, Poplar, Flamberge, OSS, Temple to 1
Oak, Birch to 2
-i wouldnt hit Wanted / Diabellestarr, for lore future support
It was at one cant recall when skill drain went back to three, swore they did it to deal with snake eyes.
I could believe that they would make this banlist. Now we just have to wait.
Honestly as someone who presently just built tenpai I’d be a little bummed it got a hit. But I guess I’d rather it receive a semi limit Over a limited or ban. I just like synchro summoning.
"changes konami will be trying to make to fix the game" = "changes konami will be trying to make to make the game still sellable, while preparing another broken set of cards"
PS: can we unban halq pls, I wanna play magikey already
Those two things aren't mutually exclusive? Also Halq would make this game worse
@@philbuttler3427 I know, I said it as a joke😂 Magikey used halq and both it and auroradon were the only cards that allowed that archetype to play lol
What a competent list. Konami must hate you for your teaching of how to fix their game without not making they broke.
Your only failure is not understanding ALL ygo cards are created with Maxx C in mind originally.
Kashtira arise heart back
With fiendsmith engine, no pure snake eye is playing flamberge at 2 at ocg. It makes no difference.
They’ll bring sky striker - hornet drone to semi-limited … I feel it
Master peace limtied… I feel it
Agree with your list. Also want to say, Master Duel added an animation for Heavy Storm, which was also a big hint the card gets of the banlist.
Personally I just wish for Snake Eyes to get killed. They had their 6 months and I'm sick of them. Don't even want to know what they can do with fiendsmith...
One of my banlist ideas was the ban oak limit flamberge
I feel the deck is still gonna be the best but if you can dd crow the flamberge or cosmic it in the spell trap zone or something they have no way to get it back and struggle the rest of the game
I think tenpai is still too new for konami to hit, especially with new the new card coming in INFO.
Totally fair! I'm thinking a light tap just because summoning is a common
Genroku and Dora Draco give a large consistency boost to Tenpai, more than losing 2 copies of Sangen Summoning would take away. All that wouldn't be recouped by the new releases would be the consistency of the protection that Sangen Summoning gives to insulate the OTK play before the battle phase
As a Majespecter player, I can confidently say that there would be no difference in bringing Kirin to 2 or 3. It’s a 1 of in the deck and a brick that you never want to see in hand.
Guys just play structure decks with your friends or play casual, you don't gotta worry about having all your cards banned
when will be released banlist
That's... a very good list and prediction!
I love this format because my deck counters snake eyes lol
My Ninjas and Summon Limit Purrely cooks most Snake Eye matchups lol
@@crigonalgaming1258 i play Dinomorphia it counters snake eyes
@@crigonalgaming1258summon limit is banned I thought
@@OgCassette oh sorry, how inconsiderate of me. I play in the OCG and Summon Limit hasn't received any hit until semi-recently July 1st.
@@crigonalgaming1258 yo we’re cool bro, didn’t realize you played ocg. You’re based for playing ninjas 😎
Ban the fiendsmith before the launch
I doesn't mater if we fix the meta powercreep will always be in this game 😢
Not banning cards just turn it into a 1 card engine 🤷🏿♂️
My favorite cimo style video
Knightmare Mermaid and Electrumite to 1 😊 .
Flamberge apolousa and sanctifyre should be banned
What does Snake-Eyes even do if you ban Flamberge? Does it go back to the Diabellstar omni-negate trap set-up in decks like R-ACE, or can it still do link climbing lines in decks like Fire King?
Mostly asking since I havent had time to lab it out.
@@four-en-tee it will turn to just lvl 1 fire support. And will hurt these decks a lot, like fk will lose under nibiru.
I'd swap Flamberge with I:P personally but keep the other two bans. I:P is also a problem partly for its interaction with Flamberge and will keep getting stronger as time goes on and more link 2+ monsters come out, so removing it instead solves multiple problems at once. I:P and Apollousa were additional offenders contributing to the same problem as Baronne and Borreload Savage where combo decks harmonize to minor variations of the same endboards.
@@TenebraeXVIIif you ban IP, then they will simply go for SP. It's like closing your eyes to the real problem which is Flamberge
Apo dont deserve ban. If u wanna ban apo, ban ur mom instead
Limit Ash, Limit Poplar, Ban Flame Burger Grill
skrew the ots pack hit ash.
glow up bulb gives you fiendsmith full combo tho'
They need to ban hugin and synchro zone, runick stun is too consistent with hugin and synchro zone has no business being a pseudo mystic mine
It's not getting any tops if it's too consistent. Like it's a tier two to three deck at best
@BuddhaMelffyQueen there are literally dozens of floodgates, but hugin is the card that enables stun to grab 3 floodgates in one turn; it's scummy and unhealthy to play against
@BuddhaMelffyQueen You sound like a runick stun player lol
Bro Runick Stun aint doing nothing... if they were to hit the deck, then probably would be limiting the floodgates. Not banning Hugin lol
@BuddhaMelffyQueen It's because you sound ridiculous. Do we want all floodgates banned or limited? Yes, however, Konami bans maybe 1 or 2 floodgates per banlist, if they ever bother. And monster floodgates are also a thing, and they've never been touched. So realistically, the one's that are banned are the cards providing massive card advantage, generic, and are overall degenerate, such as your coveted hugin along with all the rest mentioned in the video. But we'll find out, and if hugin does get hit, cope
Eh Konami has a new 1000 engine they wanna sale coming, i think theyre gonna go hard on SEs.
also, prosperity should go to 1 or banned
This really goes to show how Konami would rather sink with the ship making money in the short term than prefer to actually promote a healthy game that retains players in the long term for further gain, don’t even get me started on how tournaments aren’t worth the price to attend for what you spend vs what you get, no wonder everyone is switching to Magic, One Piece, or Digimon sheesh
Ban sanctifier, and hit snake eyes to be tier 2 so it's still playable and people aren't too upset about their investments
people that want sanctifire banned got hit with puppet once and are still butthurt about it
Banning the literal climax card of the lore of albaz is beyond silly and full of copium
Banning it is like asking for the head of exodia to be banned because you opened no handtraps against a deep draw deck and they were able to pull off the ftk
what needs to happen is an errata, make it so the monster summoned to the opp field has its effects negated and cant activate its effects, same for expulsion, that literally fixes all the issues with those cards
@FyrenRei you are wrong about the being butthurt thing. But yes an errata would be way better than a ban
@@FyrenReifound the branded player lmao
@@FyrenRei No, not internetspeak. Speak to us in a language we can all understand, we know that you're capable of doing so.
@@FyrenReiThis, so much this! Every zoomer is cope seethe rent freeing the coomer doomers and sneed feed and seed, they're locked and KEYED and SOVL and /pol/cel bloomer soulless slop black people(nah but seriously I'm not a racist, that's a /pol/cel thing, so please don't tell me to go back to /pol/ cuz I'm not ok) kino peak fiction!
Pancatrops a 3
Fooking Yubel is worse , Fire King is worse Snake-Eyes is fair at most, compared to other toxic ass decks
You really want to change the game? Stop playing it, stop making content for it, start making content for other games. Start showing Konami with your wallet. If you continue to buy and play they will continue to see you as garbage with money
bro is unaware of fiendsmith very trash prediction list the only thing u got right will be calamity ban
also, no beatrice ban? omegalul
FREE SPYRAL MASTER PLAN
Totally master plan doesn't do anything in master duel 😉 she should be free in the tcg
Literally yall just play to get under ppls skin
Dragón rulers to 3
Other decks are worse than snake eyes stop fooking crying literally every other deck is more toxic than snake eyes
#TakeyourhandsOffFromApollousa
"Lets fix yugioh" yea let us not ask for YOUR opinion again smh might as well name the video i hate snake eyes plz ban it Konami 💀
Free Pankratops!
@@Jaracara11 Fenrir is better pank
Shouldn't the title say July 2024
whatever do you mean 👀
@@MattOsheaYGO it said june when it was initially uploaded
@@captainwafer7965 yeah I fixed it after seeing your comment lol! Thanks for the heads-up!
Never clicked on a video so fast
appreciate you!
slaugther the deck ffs
Maxx C is at 3 in OCG and Master Duel. Honestly at this point its more weird that we DONT have it in tcg. And the godawful multchummy isnt an excuse since they did not ban Maxx C on the recent OCG banlist
Bring savage back!
Bring back our dragon!
My brothers in Ra, Albion the Sanctifier is not a turn skip... GIMMICK PUPPET KNIGHTMARE is the turn skip. The argument that knightmare could be replaced by others is correct, but there is a reason us branded players use gimmick puppet and not the "replacements", with there being far more outs to the replacements. PLEASE LEAVE SANC ALONE KONAMI!
no
Ra doesn’t have lingering effects, and can’t be sent off of sanctifire, yugioh players just whine too much. Mentioning branded while snake eyes is tier 0 is just wild anyways. Even at full power branded isn’t as consistent as the other decks. Not to mention branded is running hardly any hand traps and loses to them constantly.
Agreed with you. The problem card is only Gimmick Puppet Nightmare, not any of the others. The reason why Branded players lock with Nightmare is because it's a legal target for Granguignol send him from Deck to GY. Just ban Gimmick Puppet Nightmare, and you pretty much fix the lock in a realistical way
killing snake eyes even banning everything is NOT gonna fix yugioh... yugioh is beyond fixing unless a big new master rule comes and the game does a full reset somehow...you say snake eyes is the problem and every deck that inevitebly becomes tier 0 cuz it just synergizes that well but then konami goes on and prints constantly more and more broken cards and full on broken archetypes that are literally splashable in any top tier deck strategy like they just did with fiendsmith instead of focusing more on building the archetypes step by step by making support cards for the said archetype ..