I agree Stellaris is deeper but the basic combat turned me off it has, no tactics what so ever, biggest fleet wins thats basically it, it least Gal civs has a slightly more controllable combat system
@@WarrickBartley I agree that Gal Civ has a more controllable combat system but it's not always true that the biggest fleet always wins in Stellaris. The weapons loadout on the ships can make a big difference, I've sliced through much larger fleets than mine simply because I had the right weapons and defenses to do the job.
stellaris, because it is alway fun to blow out stars, every major dlc i alway fall in their trap, trying to stop stellaris, but cant resist to their dlc
i'm more of a stellaris guy myself. gal civ 3 never really gripped me like stellaris did. the fact that paradox supports their games for a long time is a significant upside. their games just end up having way more polish and content than any other game of the genre.
About the support given Stellaris: if it were just fixing bugs, that would be great. However I can't really say Stellaris is one game; I've played it a long time & every major update, and there's been many, makes Stellaris significantly different, sometimes enough to feel like a completely different game. Each time your older saves become incompatible with the current version. I have older saves, with enormous time sunk into them, which I can't play unless I go through the not so smooth or quick process of researching how to regress to an earlier version. I don't love having to continuously relearn Stellaris.
Yes, they are very different. I plan to make a few more videos in Gal Civ IV. I have a short one coming out Wednesday at 1:00 showcasing the different races.
As a big fan of Stellaris I would say good old Distant Worlds Universe is great competitor. (DW2 is out but but DW:U has more content). If you want to make another comparison I think DW:U is the one to be compared with.
i love the look of these games so much but every time i try to get into them, i have gal 3 and stelaris with almost all dlcs.. :( I just cant get into them, i find i get bored then i miss the next step and I just sit there trying to figure out what i was supposed to do next ... not sure i have the patience for them anymore , some intro tutorials would be nice, With stellaris I feel i need to watch a bunch of videos just to ne able to get into it . and no matter how many times I tell myself I will do that I just dont , just had 3 weeks off and swore I would again ...but played 10mins turned it off...) im such a space nerd and i played these kinds of games in their infancy ... back when I could understand it cause there wasnt much to do lol
I know what you mean about the simplicity, I miss that too, today's games are much more complicated. Stellaris has added a lot of automation which helps, and Gal Civ does kind of walk you through the turns by taking you to actions you need to take via the turn button. I just get so immersed in trying to conquer the galaxy that that all the complex actions I need to take eventually "sink in."
It is great! I recently played it just for fun rather than reviewing it and had trouble tearing myself away from it. I achieved a conquest victory. Fun stuff!!
I am finishing up a game right now and have thoroughly enjoyed it. I like the new sectors in the game and it still draws me in, just like Gal Civ III did. I unfortunately am tied up with a part-time job that turned into a 50+ work week (so much for part time) so I haven't had the time to make any videos lately, but hope to get back to doing that soon. If you like turn based space strategy games I'd recommend giving it a try.
you get anew suscriber mate. For me is better stellaris, for the modder comunity and the dlc which expand on everything, and last the role play ( which i really find interesting) is just supremme .
for me it's a differene of flavour. Stellaris feels bigger, vast and more "space empire-ish. But i dont like the pace of the events, which can often just come in so fast, that i cant really cherish them. Galatic Civilizations 4 I have yet to assess, but GC III has a major advantage over Stellaris: the modding! there are quite a few mods available (Nexus/vortex), which will give you a lot of options, to change the game to quite an extent. Also you can make your own maps, which is a shit toin of work, but super satisfying, when done right. So while Stellaris is the more serious (in lack of a better word), polished game, GC offers more customization over the mods (and i am sure that will not change for GC4). Both are great, but i found myself playing and enjoying GC III more often then Stellaris.
Yes, I’ve enjoyed them both a lot, along with Sins of a Solar Empire And Imperium Galactica. I think the fact that GS III and IV are turn based helps slow down the pace as well, Stellaris can get a bit overwhelming at times, I hit the pause button a lot!
I prefer Gal Civ IV, a lot of it has to do with the open map and turn based nature. I also find that their systems have just enough complexity to keep me engaged, and abstract away too much micromanagement. I’ve tried 3 or 4 times to get into Stellaris, and couldn’t. I also don’t like the way Paradox does it’s monetization, both in amount of money to get all in, but also the confusing way they seem to interrelate their must haves. That being said, GCIV definitely needs some work. Excited to see where they take it.
Gal CIV and SINS are close to being my favorites next to Stellaris. One of the things I don't like too much about Gal Civ IV is the open map, it makes your territory too hard to defend, but it's still a great game. As for Stellaris, I've found that out of all the Paradox games it was the only one I felt like I could understand well enough to play, but it can turn into a grind sometimes. Thanks for your comment!
@@lonerstrategygames it does make it harder, yes, but I’ve never really liked the “starlane” concept. You are gonna have multiple angles. What’s fun in GC is you can station reserve fleets all around your territory and set sentries, with more powerful ships closer, and faster ships hiding on the outer rim to support. Star lanes are less interesting to me in that sense. Same in the sense of exploration. I get to pick the touring to take in the solar system, not just the 1 or 2 paths that are open to me.
@@pixelotix It does make exploration more fun, it's fun to see the fog roll back as you explore. I like the sentries and reserve fleets concept, my flaw is missing the alerts, or forgetting go set a fleet to the proper stance. But it can be suspenseful trying to get a fleet to a trouble spot in time.
I am still playing galciv 3 . I like the fact that i can replace the character portraits with my own . I dont like the aliens pictures that come with game . I replace them with pictures of politians, famous people from history ., human characters from other pc games....etc. You can even change the text that appears on the diplomacy screen. Its really great. I changed the text and portraits to look like in alpha centauri. I find stellaris interface boring and the game overcomplicated. For me its not fun. Its more like work. Galciv 4 looks even better than galciv 3. I might get it in the future when the dlcs start coming out.
Paradox is a black hole of DLC best example Stellaris new players for the best experience must have best dlc installed, GC IV bring same ideas, just wish game with Starsector galaxy system and combat but with better mechanics.
I was a huge Gal Civ I, II, and III fan, then I joined the Gal Civ IV beta. I spent more time writing up bugs than playing, and hardly any were addressed so I lost interest. Unless they have done a lot of cleanup then I would put my money on Stellaris.
@@lonerstrategygames 1) numerous typos, no biggie, but annoying. 2) During game play there were buffs that I earned and got notifications for, but the benefits were never applied. 3) modal windows during events where you had to choose X, Y, or Z, but you couldn't temporarily close the window to look at your planet or civilization stats before making a decision. This one bothered me the most, in 4x games with endless stats there is no way a player can "what if" the impact of a decision without looking at their details. 4) no summary of your civilization perks or weaknesses on any of the screens, so you need to memorize your civ or write down the stats before starting. These are the few I remember of the dozen or so I logged on the forum. You can find my posts on the forum under DAHRKSTAR. Cheers!
@@xlnt2new those were just off the top of my head, I wrote a couple dozen last Jan/Feb and the game just wasn't fun with all the issues. GalCiv IV (that means 4 if you struggle with Roman numerals) isn't even 20 months old let alone 20 years.
I think your opinion might be a little biased. You go through a lot more details when describing Stellaris, whereas you skim GC4, as if we all know what to expect.
I try not to be biased, especially since I love both games (plus SINS 2). I think I might go into a little more detail on Stellaris since it has a lot more detail in it, but I'll keep your comment in mind next time I do one of those. You're probably right, I might do that without realizing it.
@@lonerstrategygames You did claim Stellaris is your favourite over the two, so i can understand why it got more enthusiasm, this video still helped me decide on whether or not to get GC4, so thank you for that. I already own Stellaris and its fun, but i wanted something slightly more Civ like, which i think GC4 might scratch that itch. As for SINS2, i'll keep an eye out for that video, i am curious on that as well.
for thosen that dont already know Galciv 4 is UNPLAYABLE on anything other than a giant monitor as they refuse to support anything less than wall size monitors
@@lonerstrategygames yeah and YOU NEVER go anywhere either dude YOU'RE NOT a go getter you're not a gamer on the go because NOBODY in their right mind carries a 23 inch monitor around with em gtfo here
It is as the same fir me until I tried Gal Civ III. Liked the way it stopped me for doing something, like assigning something to be researched, before advancing to the next turn. Once I got bused to it it wasn’t much different from a pausable RTS game.
Both are good games but Stellaris is still my favorite. What do you think? Are there any other game comparisons you'd like to see?
I agree Stellaris is deeper but the basic combat turned me off it has, no tactics what so ever, biggest fleet wins thats basically it, it least Gal civs has a slightly more controllable combat system
@@WarrickBartley I agree that Gal Civ has a more controllable combat system but it's not always true that the biggest fleet always wins in Stellaris. The weapons loadout on the ships can make a big difference, I've sliced through much larger fleets than mine simply because I had the right weapons and defenses to do the job.
stellaris, because it is alway fun to blow out stars, every major dlc i alway fall in their trap, trying to stop stellaris, but cant resist to their dlc
@@vkobevk i know exactly what you mean 😀
The upcoming Gal Civ 4 Supernova will probably close the gap a bit. Interesting use of AI too.
Thanks for doing this. We need more people who don't talk endlessly repeating themselves. Right to the point on everything. Subscribed.
Thanks!
Absolutely agree! Sub'd as well.
@@MrPstewart84 Thanks for the feedback!
True that amen.
i'm more of a stellaris guy myself. gal civ 3 never really gripped me like stellaris did. the fact that paradox supports their games for a long time is a significant upside. their games just end up having way more polish and content than any other game of the genre.
I agree. I look for other games to compare to Stellaris all the time but Paradox is tough to beat.
About the support given Stellaris: if it were just fixing bugs, that would be great. However I can't really say Stellaris is one game; I've played it a long time & every major update, and there's been many, makes Stellaris significantly different, sometimes enough to feel like a completely different game. Each time your older saves become incompatible with the current version. I have older saves, with enormous time sunk into them, which I can't play unless I go through the not so smooth or quick process of researching how to regress to an earlier version.
I don't love having to continuously relearn Stellaris.
They look similar in details but yet both are very different in my opinion.
Yes, they are very different. I plan to make a few more videos in Gal Civ IV. I have a short one coming out Wednesday at 1:00 showcasing the different races.
As a big fan of Stellaris I would say good old Distant Worlds Universe is great competitor. (DW2 is out but but DW:U has more content).
If you want to make another comparison I think DW:U is the one to be compared with.
I'm always glad to get suggestions. I'll put that on my schedule. Thanks!
Sorry, made this reply using the wrong account, which is now defunct.
i love the look of these games so much but every time i try to get into them, i have gal 3 and stelaris with almost all dlcs.. :( I just cant get into them, i find i get bored then i miss the next step and I just sit there trying to figure out what i was supposed to do next ... not sure i have the patience for them anymore , some intro tutorials would be nice, With stellaris I feel i need to watch a bunch of videos just to ne able to get into it . and no matter how many times I tell myself I will do that I just dont , just had 3 weeks off and swore I would again ...but played 10mins turned it off...) im such a space nerd and i played these kinds of games in their infancy ... back when I could understand it cause there wasnt much to do lol
I know what you mean about the simplicity, I miss that too, today's games are much more complicated. Stellaris has added a lot of automation which helps, and Gal Civ does kind of walk you through the turns by taking you to actions you need to take via the turn button. I just get so immersed in trying to conquer the galaxy that that all the complex actions I need to take eventually "sink in."
galactic civilizations iv supernova IS THE GOAT !!
It is great! I recently played it just for fun rather than reviewing it and had trouble tearing myself away from it. I achieved a conquest victory. Fun stuff!!
I am curious if you have any additional input now that this video is a year old and the SuperNova update is out for GC4?
I am finishing up a game right now and have thoroughly enjoyed it. I like the new sectors in the game and it still draws me in, just like Gal Civ III did. I unfortunately am tied up with a part-time job that turned into a 50+ work week (so much for part time) so I haven't had the time to make any videos lately, but hope to get back to doing that soon. If you like turn based space strategy games I'd recommend giving it a try.
you get anew suscriber mate. For me is better stellaris, for the modder comunity and the dlc which expand on everything, and last the role play ( which i really find interesting) is just supremme .
The mods and DLCs do make Stellaris much better, hopefully Gal Civ 4 will have some of it's own soon. Thanks for subscribing!
for me it's a differene of flavour.
Stellaris feels bigger, vast and more "space empire-ish. But i dont like the pace of the events, which can often just come in so fast, that i cant really cherish them.
Galatic Civilizations 4 I have yet to assess, but GC III has a major advantage over Stellaris: the modding! there are quite a few mods available (Nexus/vortex), which will give you a lot of options, to change the game to quite an extent. Also you can make your own maps, which is a shit toin of work, but super satisfying, when done right.
So while Stellaris is the more serious (in lack of a better word), polished game, GC offers more customization over the mods (and i am sure that will not change for GC4).
Both are great, but i found myself playing and enjoying GC III more often then Stellaris.
Yes, I’ve enjoyed them both a lot, along with Sins of a Solar Empire And Imperium Galactica. I think the fact that GS III and IV are turn based helps slow down the pace as well, Stellaris can get a bit overwhelming at times, I hit the pause button a lot!
I prefer Gal Civ IV, a lot of it has to do with the open map and turn based nature. I also find that their systems have just enough complexity to keep me engaged, and abstract away too much micromanagement.
I’ve tried 3 or 4 times to get into Stellaris, and couldn’t. I also don’t like the way Paradox does it’s monetization, both in amount of money to get all in, but also the confusing way they seem to interrelate their must haves.
That being said, GCIV definitely needs some work. Excited to see where they take it.
Gal CIV and SINS are close to being my favorites next to Stellaris. One of the things I don't like too much about Gal Civ IV is the open map, it makes your territory too hard to defend, but it's still a great game. As for Stellaris, I've found that out of all the Paradox games it was the only one I felt like I could understand well enough to play, but it can turn into a grind sometimes. Thanks for your comment!
@@lonerstrategygames it does make it harder, yes, but I’ve never really liked the “starlane” concept. You are gonna have multiple angles.
What’s fun in GC is you can station reserve fleets all around your territory and set sentries, with more powerful ships closer, and faster ships hiding on the outer rim to support.
Star lanes are less interesting to me in that sense.
Same in the sense of exploration. I get to pick the touring to take in the solar system, not just the 1 or 2 paths that are open to me.
@@pixelotix It does make exploration more fun, it's fun to see the fog roll back as you explore. I like the sentries and reserve fleets concept, my flaw is missing the alerts, or forgetting go set a fleet to the proper stance. But it can be suspenseful trying to get a fleet to a trouble spot in time.
Yes to some extent you can select which races show up or don't in your game in Stellaris.
Agreed!
I am still playing galciv 3 . I like the fact that i can replace the character portraits with my own . I dont like the aliens pictures that come with game . I replace them with pictures of politians, famous people from history ., human characters from other pc games....etc. You can even change the text that appears on the diplomacy screen. Its really great. I changed the text and portraits to look like in alpha centauri. I find stellaris interface boring and the game overcomplicated. For me its not fun. Its more like work. Galciv 4 looks even better than galciv 3. I might get it in the future when the dlcs start coming out.
Yeah, Stellaris does get a bit tedious sometimes, Gal Civ 4 is a nice change from that and the graphics are great!
Stellaris does have a tech tree, but no way to see it in game.
If you have a second screen you can have the tech tree up from a web page...
Good idea. The tech tree always seems like it's random to me, I'll see if I can follow it during a game. Thanks for the comment!
Paradox is a black hole of DLC best example Stellaris new players for the best experience must have best dlc installed, GC IV bring same ideas, just wish game with Starsector galaxy system and combat but with better mechanics.
i like Gal Civ 4 better
it is a really good game! What do you like about it the most? One of my favorite things about Gal Civ Iv is the Drengin. My favorite bad guys!
I was a huge Gal Civ I, II, and III fan, then I joined the Gal Civ IV beta. I spent more time writing up bugs than playing, and hardly any were addressed so I lost interest. Unless they have done a lot of cleanup then I would put my money on Stellaris.
Interesting. Since it was a new game I wasn't very critical. What kinds of bugs did you n0otice?
@@lonerstrategygames
1) numerous typos, no biggie, but annoying.
2) During game play there were buffs that I earned and got notifications for, but the benefits were never applied.
3) modal windows during events where you had to choose X, Y, or Z, but you couldn't temporarily close the window to look at your planet or civilization stats before making a decision. This one bothered me the most, in 4x games with endless stats there is no way a player can "what if" the impact of a decision without looking at their details.
4) no summary of your civilization perks or weaknesses on any of the screens, so you need to memorize your civ or write down the stats before starting.
These are the few I remember of the dozen or so I logged on the forum. You can find my posts on the forum under DAHRKSTAR.
Cheers!
@@Army1SGRetired 4 minor complains :D those took you more time to writer than to play?! good effort bro, the game is 20 years old :D
@@xlnt2new those were just off the top of my head, I wrote a couple dozen last Jan/Feb and the game just wasn't fun with all the issues.
GalCiv IV (that means 4 if you struggle with Roman numerals) isn't even 20 months old let alone 20 years.
Gal civ 3 because i don't have a 4k monitor...ironically stellaris runs...
Might be worth an upgrade, the graphics in Gal Civ IV are detailed & beautiful
I think your opinion might be a little biased. You go through a lot more details when describing Stellaris, whereas you skim GC4, as if we all know what to expect.
I try not to be biased, especially since I love both games (plus SINS 2). I think I might go into a little more detail on Stellaris since it has a lot more detail in it, but I'll keep your comment in mind next time I do one of those. You're probably right, I might do that without realizing it.
@@lonerstrategygames You did claim Stellaris is your favourite over the two, so i can understand why it got more enthusiasm, this video still helped me decide on whether or not to get GC4, so thank you for that. I already own Stellaris and its fun, but i wanted something slightly more Civ like, which i think GC4 might scratch that itch. As for SINS2, i'll keep an eye out for that video, i am curious on that as well.
@@JPokerxx it’s uploaded, just need to schedule it. I’m trying to get a few ahead so I can be more consistent with my publishing schedule.
for thosen that dont already know Galciv 4 is UNPLAYABLE on anything other than a giant monitor as they refuse to support anything less than wall size monitors
I've never had any problem playing it on my 23" monitor, guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
@@lonerstrategygames yeah and YOU NEVER go anywhere either dude YOU'RE NOT a go getter you're not a gamer on the go because NOBODY in their right mind carries a 23 inch monitor around with em gtfo here
Turnbased is an immediate turn off for mw
It is as the same fir me until I tried Gal Civ III. Liked the way it stopped me for doing something, like assigning something to be researched, before advancing to the next turn. Once I got bused to it it wasn’t much different from a pausable RTS game.
I'm the opposite, I prefer turn based as it feels more tactical and thoughtful rather than based on click speed or having to pause all the time.