She didn't die. My father and his first wife were in the hotel, on their honeymoon that night. His wife was killed trying to get down a fire ladder but someone from above fell and caused her and the firefighter to fall to the ground. The firefighter survived.
Does anyone else find it ironic that when a company claims to be resistant to a disaster of some sort, that it ends up being taken out by that exact disaster? The Winecoff "Fire Resistant" burns, Titanic, unsinkable.
Yup. Each twin tower also was said to be built to withstand the impact of a 737. Granted, they were hit by 767’s and technically did withstand the initial impact, but still. Strange.
@@NizRacingNY the design wasn't nearly as stable as the Empire state or even the weirdo John Hancock. But the former got hit twice by military planes. WTC just had a skin of iron and a core of iron. that's all. Not all the way through like the others.
But no one with any actual knowledge ever claimed that the Titanic was unsinkable. That was something some newspaper or magazine came up with; it was never said by Harland & Wolff, the White Star Line, or any other authority.
Imagine turning in your bed at night around 3:15 a.m. in the morning, and you open your eyes to see somebody at your window, only to open it and jump out screaming!! 😳 Yea fuck that! 😭🤣🤣🤣💯
I stayed there about 9 years ago. It was sort of a boutique type place and nice rooms. The atmosphere, though, was claustrophobic and eerie once you went from the lobby to the room floors. Very narrow hallways. There is a plaque outside in dedication to the victims. I requested the lowest floor but didn’t like the energy in the building. It felt a bit like I was invading somewhere I shouldn’t have been. Wouldn’t do it again.
tucson arizona had a fire at the pioneer hotel December 20, 1970 that killed 29 people!. it had no sprinklers or fire escape. people were jumping out of the windows. it was the worst disasters in Tucson Arizona and Arizona.
Wow, a humane news photograher who wants to catch an image that will give readers a sense of the tragedy! Rather than sensationalize or embarrass someone.
A single, open stairway will serve as a chimney in a fire, as happened here. Fortunately stairways like this are no longer allowed. There has to be more than one stairway, and each one has to be separate from the interior of the building and closed off with fire doors. This does not mean there will never again be any more fire disasters, but at least they're less likely.
There are very few people willing to sit down with people like you and talk about their beliefs. We know that all you want to do is sit there and laugh about how stupid you think we are. I'd rather believe that there's someone looking after us, that even if we die here we'll end up somewhere beautiful, a place that's permanently safe. I find that belief a whole lot sweeter than the idea of just going out like a candle and suddenly being nothing at all, just dead. Is that so stupid?
"The fire caused codes to be changed around the county"- Sure. And then.the Pioneer hotel in Arizona suffers a similar fire almost 30 years later where open staircases acted as a chimney. Even today, putting fire codes in place is not a simple unanimous thing.
Also the MGM grand in Las Vegas 1980 same thing no fire sprinklers, no fire alarms in the rooms.the stairwells and elevator shafts acted as chimneys the smoke is what killed almost all of the more than eighty people then. So yeah apparently the fire codes didn’t do anything there.🤔
All the legislation in the world will never cure human error and ignorance. Look around at your next hotel stay, bet you find stairwell doors propped open....
My Grandfather owned two mortuary's in Atlanta at the time. His hearses were called into service to help remove victims, as were his mortuaries to tend to some of them.
Marit i think you're missing the whole point of this video. because of this tragedy, fire escapes and sprinkler systems exist in every single building now, as per law. you're imposing our modern technology and ideals of safety onto a different era. it's like telling victims of cholera that they should have had our system of plumbing and sewage two centuries ago.
You hear the old saying about change being written in blood. The laws were different at the time so fire escapes and sprinklers etc weren't required, the final irony is the man who built the hotel and his wife were both killed in the fire, the saddest part the Winecoff disaster is there were two other hotel fires before this one in June of 1946, one at the LaSalle Hotel in Chicago that killed 61 people and another at the Canfield Hotel in Dubuque that killed 19
Page Number 687 I suppose your point is they didn't have these things back then? Or it wasn't required I must not have used my whole brain that day l'm usually pretty good with history should've thought about this..
snakes3425 Now l think about it.. I wasn't really thinking that day l just felt terrible for the people inside l usually think it thru.. You know kind of stunned? I heard him saying in the video that there was something in the building to release smoke out but it was closed Very sad.. I thought by this time they had something already to have protection from fire but if it indeed was not installed yet because it wasn't required by law that would explain a lot It's a heartbreaking story :'(
"She was just amazed that God allowed her to live (while letting all the other Christians slowly burn to death in a horrible way to die)." Only a psychopathic deity would do that. Or only a very selfish person would assume that their God was there for them that night but WASN'T there for all the people who died horribly. #ignorant
I could not sleep in a building that had 162 bodies burned up, sorry. I know these people suffered a horrific death and I could not be there thinking about that. I’ll pray for them and ask God to care for them.
Went to my late Fathers WW2 unit’s reunion the Summer ‘The Towering Inferno’ came out. I wasn’t then, nor am I now; happy abt heights. I hate high bridges w/a passion. I wasn’t pleased to find out we were on the 10th or 11th or so floor, maybe higher. Looked out the window & saw nothing but a concrete Plaza.
Is the film produced by the 'Absolutly Fireproof Insurance Company' as the actors seem to me to be trying to market the same type of potential disaster with out there being fire safety features installed. I have worked in Hotels. Seen 9/11 and a few other highrise fires. Trapped on say the 50th floor. How the hell does a person get down when the elevator shaft is a chimney and fire truck ladders can not reach that height. What I notice is there are not even emergency ropes or rope ladders. Nothing as far as I see. The same in our country. A jump from the second floor could break limbs or kill. But from the 10th, 20th, 30th, 40th, 50th or higher on to concrete is more likely to be fatal than survivable (my opinion). The Point is. The actors are promoting Hotels as if the problems have been eradicated or no long exist (my opinion).
@@Oakleaf700 the issue with Joelma tower was the fact that it was made entirely of flammable materials. Grenfell tower was covered by flammable material and would’ve been safe otherwise
+Bart Simpson Not in the least misleading ... they don't state that it was the deadliest fire or the deadliest hotel or theater fire - it is what it is the deadliest HOTEL fire and the Iroquis is the deadliest theater fire --- how is that misleading?
5:15 "The Winecoff hotel was advertised as absolutely fireproof... that was an insurance term that meant that the hotel would not collapse under intense fire. But it did not apply to the contents, or the people inside."
Yes, it stated that nowadays fire doors are built near the stairwells, to seal out the fire from the stairs and allow people to escape thereby. And the stairwells have to be separated from the building by the fire doors, and there must be at least two stairwells. It was a tragedy that not many fire safety codes existed at the time. The only consolation is that because of this fire, many more fire safety codes were enacted.
I freaking hate it when people say "oh god allowed this person to live" so what's that mean anyway? God hated the others, their lives weren't worth saving, or he wanted their souls and hers..not so much. I wish people would really think before they say stupid religious stuff. Then again, if they thought about it, they probably wouldn't be religious anyway. :)
Sounds to me like she prayed to God before she fell. If they had listened to God before hand, He warned each of them, just as He did those who were in the towers during 9/11. Some listened to Him and didn't go. Some heard Him, but went anyway. Some never listen to Him, and they just didn't hear Him. God speaks to us all in our heart/spirit. Not all pay attention.
Can you as a human ever hope to comprehend Divinity you say stupid religious stuff but to many it is apart of their lives though you may not believe don't belittle those who do that shows ignorance and intolerance on your part
To the guy that ask me to prove god is real I say prove he is not real. You can't. You believe he is not real just because you are too weak to have faith. You have nothing to believe in except your self. And one day you will wish you had not tried so hard to prove god is not real and that you had tried harder to find god. God knows you and will call you one day if you are wotrth it. If not then you will burn in hell.
God, Heaven and hell are real sweetie. You have to make your own choice. Receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior and go to Heaven, or don't and suffer throughout eternity in hell. This is all very real. Hopefully you will make the right choice before it's too late.
"God allowed her to live". What a disgusting thing to say. So her mother was more important than all those that died and God decided to let them die. I honestly find the religious to be absolutely disgusting. She lived because she landed on the building next door and she was young and lucky. God didn't pick her over those that died. Imagine saying something like that. Imagine being a family member of a child that died listening to this disgusting woman saying God saved their mother.
If what you say is true, then whay is it that when I ask people to tell me about their god, they're usually too embarrassed to do so? Surely it's because deep down they know it's silly to believe in a god. For example, if you believe in a god, tell me about this god. What evidence exists to prove that he/she/it is real and answers people's requests for assistance?
No building in this world could ever be fireproof.Fire Is extremely powerful and destructive and it doesnt take much for something to go up in flames.This fire is tragic and sad but at the sametime it's amazing how beautiful fire really is.
I don't ever remember seeing anything about the KKK bothering people because they didn't go to church. Or that anyone was ever arrested for not going to church in the south. Where did you learn that from some atheist website?
She prayed to God before she fell. If they had listened to God before hand, He warned each of them, just as He did those who were in the towers during 9/11. Some listened to Him and didn't go. Some heard Him, but went anyway. Some never listen to Him, and they just didn't hear Him. God speaks to us all in our heart/spirit. Not all pay attention.
If you have an imaginary friend, and you go so far as to embellish this magically-invisible friend with a name, with a gender (i.e. genitals), with all kinds of characteristics, and even talk to this friend and imagine that he/her hears you and is responding to you in some magical way....then yes, you're a nut!
The amazing photo of the woman falling to her death reminded me of "the falling man " of 9-11. May they, and every victim rest peacefully.
She didn't die..
Marjorie Nardini
4:50
She didn't die. My father and his first wife were in the hotel, on their honeymoon that night. His wife was killed trying to get down a fire ladder but someone from above fell and caused her and the firefighter to fall to the ground. The firefighter survived.
@@charleneboschung9997 WOW
Absolutely fireproof yeah right like the Iroquois Theatre.
John Walters people who think any building is or could be labled as fireproof it will catch fire to prove to you how Dead Wrong you were.
Susan outland I have studied fires for years and know how nasty fire is.
The building was. Not the audience or the stage stuff (including the "fire" curtain, which you don't see because it burned)
To be fair the theatre might've been if they followed the full design and didn't rush and cut corners (and finished all the fire escape stairs)
THE BUIDING WAS FIREPROOF NOT THE CONTENTS
Does anyone else find it ironic that when a company claims to be resistant to a disaster of some sort, that it ends up being taken out by that exact disaster?
The Winecoff "Fire Resistant" burns, Titanic, unsinkable.
I feel it was arson.
Yup. Each twin tower also was said to be built to withstand the impact of a 737. Granted, they were hit by 767’s and technically did withstand the initial impact, but still. Strange.
✔️✔️✔️✌️
@@NizRacingNY the design wasn't nearly as stable as the Empire state or even the weirdo John Hancock. But the former got hit twice by military planes.
WTC just had a skin of iron and a core of iron. that's all. Not all the way through like the others.
But no one with any actual knowledge ever claimed that the Titanic was unsinkable. That was something some newspaper or magazine came up with; it was never said by Harland & Wolff, the White Star Line, or any other authority.
“Absolutely fireproof”
“Unsinkable ship”
Yeah let’s not predict ourself
This place has to be haunted. There's no way I'd stay there.
Even more so than the Sedgewick in Ghostbusters!
Neither would i
@@taraelizabethdensley9475 it’s just like the Cecil hotel
That was my comment lol
Imagine turning in your bed at night around 3:15 a.m. in the morning, and you open your eyes to see somebody at your window, only to open it and jump out screaming!! 😳 Yea fuck that! 😭🤣🤣🤣💯
I worked at the Ellis for a year and stayed there some. I always said something at night to give thanks to those that passed there.
Bless you ...Did it have an eerie feel?..one would imagine it would... :(
I stayed there about 9 years ago. It was sort of a boutique type place and nice rooms. The atmosphere, though, was claustrophobic and eerie once you went from the lobby to the room floors. Very narrow hallways. There is a plaque outside in dedication to the victims. I requested the lowest floor but didn’t like the energy in the building. It felt a bit like I was invading somewhere I shouldn’t have been. Wouldn’t do it again.
tucson arizona had a fire at the pioneer hotel December 20, 1970 that killed 29 people!. it had no sprinklers or fire escape. people were jumping out of the windows. it was the worst disasters in Tucson Arizona and Arizona.
Can u send link?,
+Diamante Dea look up Pioneer Hotel fire Tucson Arizona
Never heard of this..ever
@@joeyenicks920 thank you for helping that person!
Wow, a humane news photograher who wants to catch an image that will give readers a sense of the tragedy! Rather than sensationalize or embarrass someone.
WON THE PULITZER
A single, open stairway will serve as a chimney in a fire, as happened here. Fortunately stairways like this are no longer allowed. There has to be more than one stairway, and each one has to be separate from the interior of the building and closed off with fire doors. This does not mean there will never again be any more fire disasters, but at least they're less likely.
Scoop, the Wiiiiinecoff is on fiiiiiire.....
the wahncoff is on faaahr... :D
Seriously, how horrible must it have been for the woman who jumped seeing photographer's flash while you are plunging to your possible death?!
@@helveeta my thought exactly. Horrifying.
There are very few people willing to sit down with people like you and talk about their beliefs. We know that all you want to do is sit there and laugh about how stupid you think we are. I'd rather believe that there's someone looking after us, that even if we die here we'll end up somewhere beautiful, a place that's permanently safe. I find that belief a whole lot sweeter than the idea of just going out like a candle and suddenly being nothing at all, just dead. Is that so stupid?
It’s not stupid in the slightest.
Not stupid at all, most religions have belief in the afterlife.
"The fire caused codes to be changed around the county"- Sure. And then.the Pioneer hotel in Arizona suffers a similar fire almost 30 years later where open staircases acted as a chimney. Even today, putting fire codes in place is not a simple unanimous thing.
Joelma Tower, Grenfell Tower...completely without adequate safety provision...literal firetraps.
Also the MGM grand in Las Vegas 1980 same thing no fire sprinklers, no fire alarms in the rooms.the stairwells and elevator shafts acted as chimneys the smoke is what killed almost all of the more than eighty people then. So yeah apparently the fire codes didn’t do anything there.🤔
All the legislation in the world will never cure human error and ignorance. Look around at your next hotel stay, bet you find stairwell doors propped open....
My Grandfather owned two mortuary's in Atlanta at the time. His hearses were called into service to help remove victims, as were his mortuaries to tend to some of them.
Nearly one out of every two people in in the hotel that night didn't make it out alive!
this place is haunted.. how can people do this.. making a building that big without fire escapes or safety, or exists atleast! :(
poor people
R.I.P
Marit i think you're missing the whole point of this video. because of this tragedy, fire escapes and sprinkler systems exist in every single building now, as per law. you're imposing our modern technology and ideals of safety onto a different era. it's like telling victims of cholera that they should have had our system of plumbing and sewage two centuries ago.
You hear the old saying about change being written in blood. The laws were different at the time so fire escapes and sprinklers etc weren't required, the final irony is the man who built the hotel and his wife were both killed in the fire, the saddest part the Winecoff disaster is there were two other hotel fires before this one in June of 1946, one at the LaSalle Hotel in Chicago that killed 61 people and another at the Canfield Hotel in Dubuque that killed 19
Page Number 687 I suppose your point is they didn't have these things back then?
Or it wasn't required
I must not have used my whole brain that day l'm usually pretty good with history should've thought about this..
snakes3425 Now l think about it..
I wasn't really thinking that day l just felt terrible for the people inside l usually think it thru..
You know kind of stunned?
I heard him saying in the video that there was something in the building to release smoke out but it was closed
Very sad..
I thought by this time they had something already to have protection from fire but if it indeed was not installed yet because it wasn't required by law that would explain a lot
It's a heartbreaking story :'(
@@PageNumber687x Not in the Joelma building, São Paolo or Grenfell Tower, London....
'people were jumping out everywhere, i knew it would be a big story!' lmfao typical press.
smart ass
"She was just amazed that God allowed her to live (while letting all the other Christians slowly burn to death in a horrible way to die)." Only a psychopathic deity would do that. Or only a very selfish person would assume that their God was there for them that night but WASN'T there for all the people who died horribly. #ignorant
I think that saying that a hotel is fireproof is like saying that a ship is unsinkable.
She's not skirtless people.....she's wearing a dress that flew upwards as she fell
Ah I see
Absolutly Fireproof, it's sickening to think that bost led to disaster not once but twice
So important to heal by coming together. Bless them all.
I could not sleep in a building that had 162 bodies burned up, sorry. I know these people suffered a horrific death and I could not be there thinking about that. I’ll pray for them and ask God to care for them.
It is now the Ellis Hotel and has been functional the last 20 years.
@AlphaAlaska - Yes, it is a hotel again (the Ellis Hotel). Check out their website for more info.
Went to my late Fathers WW2 unit’s reunion the Summer ‘The Towering Inferno’ came out. I wasn’t then, nor am I now; happy abt heights. I hate high bridges w/a passion. I wasn’t pleased to find out we were on the 10th or 11th or so floor, maybe higher. Looked out the window & saw nothing but a concrete Plaza.
The Winecoff is on "farrrrr"
Hank Kimball lawwdy lawwdy
He dropped his hot pocket.
Is the film produced by the 'Absolutly Fireproof Insurance Company' as the actors seem to me to be trying to market the same type of potential disaster with out there being fire safety features installed. I have worked in Hotels. Seen 9/11 and a few other highrise fires. Trapped on say the 50th floor. How the hell does a person get down when the elevator shaft is a chimney and fire truck ladders can not reach that height. What I notice is there are not even emergency ropes or rope ladders. Nothing as far as I see. The same in our country. A jump from the second floor could break limbs or kill. But from the 10th, 20th, 30th, 40th, 50th or higher on to concrete is more likely to be fatal than survivable (my opinion).
The Point is. The actors are promoting Hotels as if the problems have been eradicated or no long exist (my opinion).
Agree totally.. Joelma tower, Grenfell Tower...Lessons clearly not learned.
@@Oakleaf700 the issue with Joelma tower was the fact that it was made entirely of flammable materials. Grenfell tower was covered by flammable material and would’ve been safe otherwise
kind of misleading yes it the deadliest 'hotel' fire but the Iroquis theater killed more than 600
+Bart Simpson Not in the least misleading ... they don't state that it was the deadliest fire or the deadliest hotel or theater fire - it is what it is the deadliest HOTEL fire and the Iroquis is the deadliest theater fire --- how is that misleading?
How is it misleading?
I think that a claim that a building is absolutely fireproof is total bologna.
5:15 "The Winecoff hotel was advertised as absolutely fireproof... that was an insurance term that meant that the hotel would not collapse under intense fire. But it did not apply to the contents, or the people inside."
September 11,2001 Was the World's largest Tragedy, almost 4,000 people died in that attack, Twin Towers both Collapsed.
Before i slowly roast to death i would jump too.
Capitalism loves to take shortcuts--right through human flesh.
Wait. Fire doors are bound to trap and kill someone...don't they seal in a fire?
Yes, it stated that nowadays fire doors are built near the stairwells, to seal out the fire from the stairs and allow people to escape thereby. And the stairwells have to be separated from the building by the fire doors, and there must be at least two stairwells. It was a tragedy that not many fire safety codes existed at the time. The only consolation is that because of this fire, many more fire safety codes were enacted.
They close but don't lock, so late comers can enter and firemen can deploy and fight the fire.
I stayed there. It is haunted. I loved it.
This building is Definitely haunted!
I don't doubt it a bit. And I don't think you are nuts, at least not for believing in ghosts! Thanks for the reply.
Cheers from Texas.
I freaking hate it when people say "oh god allowed this person to live" so what's that mean anyway? God hated the others, their lives weren't worth saving, or he wanted their souls and hers..not so much. I wish people would really think before they say stupid religious stuff. Then again, if they thought about it, they probably wouldn't be religious anyway. :)
Sounds to me like she prayed to God before she fell. If they had listened to God before hand, He warned each of them, just as He did those who were in the towers during 9/11. Some listened to Him and didn't go. Some heard Him, but went anyway. Some never listen to Him, and they just didn't hear Him. God speaks to us all in our heart/spirit. Not all pay attention.
Can you as a human ever hope to comprehend Divinity you say stupid religious stuff but to many it is apart of their lives though you may not believe don't belittle those who do that shows ignorance and intolerance on your part
Anyone know the music they used on this? Odd question but I know it from somewhere.
The Titanic, though not unsinkable--she is fireproof.
I heard the Ellis hotel is haunted n I live in the ATL by Peachtree
True, the comment re: the generation that just didn’t talk about trauma.
Lohrdy Lohrdy
There must be ghosts there, and I'm not trying to be cute, or funny.
@ballsconstantine Yet, if it wasn't for that picture and that story people would have been as galvanized to seek safety code changes.
Just like the Titanic was unsinkable. SMDH
The music is so annoying
It was rumored to be started from a poker game.
Lordy Lordyyyyy
The music is obnoxious and unnecessary.
Interesting ! Did not know ! 😳🙏🏼
The new Ellis hotel is gonna be where the little girls from the shining live
Cab driver: "Lordy, Lordy, they're jumping out everywhere!"
Jerk Reporter: "I knew then, that it was a big story."
Lesson? Reporters SUCK!
QUE HORROR HASTA TENGO NAUSEAS
dammit, beat me to the comment!
4:50 is pam
@Zaimren--Well said
what year?
To the guy that ask me to prove god is real I say prove he is not real. You can't. You believe he is not real just because you are too weak to have faith. You have nothing to believe in except your self. And one day you will wish you had not tried so hard to prove god is not real and that you had tried harder to find god.
God knows you and will call you one day if you are wotrth it. If not then you will burn in hell.
you are god. im god. everybody is god. every animals r god too.the god god is just spirituals higher than us (on practicing unconditional love
also there is no hell. hell is only in the heart when wanting others to go to hell
God, Heaven and hell are real sweetie. You have to make your own choice.
Receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior and go to Heaven, or don't and suffer throughout eternity in hell. This is all very real. Hopefully you will make the right choice before it's too late.
😭😭
If you believe in god that does not make you a nut.
I'm crazy for Jesus.
Nope,, makes you a walnut...
Fireproof=one size fits all
Lordy Lordy!! They be jumpin’ and a jivin’ at the Winecoff tonight!! 🚖
"God allowed her to live". What a disgusting thing to say. So her mother was more important than all those that died and God decided to let them die. I honestly find the religious to be absolutely disgusting.
She lived because she landed on the building next door and she was young and lucky. God didn't pick her over those that died. Imagine saying something like that. Imagine being a family member of a child that died listening to this disgusting woman saying God saved their mother.
If what you say is true, then whay is it that when I ask people to tell me about their god, they're usually too embarrassed to do so? Surely it's because deep down they know it's silly to believe in a god. For example, if you believe in a god, tell me about this god. What evidence exists to prove that he/she/it is real and answers people's requests for assistance?
that last flashbulb story is bs. they are not that bright.
That place has got to have ghosts.
No building in this world could ever be fireproof.Fire Is extremely powerful and destructive and it doesnt take much for something to go up in flames.This fire is tragic and sad but at the sametime it's amazing how beautiful fire really is.
God allowed her to live? Spare me this b.s.
I don't ever remember seeing anything about the KKK bothering people because they didn't go to church. Or that anyone was ever arrested for not going to church in the south. Where did you learn that from some atheist website?
She prayed to God before she fell. If they had listened to God before hand, He warned each of them, just as He did those who were in the towers during 9/11. Some listened to Him and didn't go. Some heard Him, but went anyway. Some never listen to Him, and they just didn't hear Him. God speaks to us all in our heart/spirit. Not all pay attention.
@Kabuki Kitsune You are a very ignorant person.
@@julienielsen3746 I wouldn't doubt if he heard from some liberal, imbecile professor.
You are a fool!
A so called god saves one woman, according to her daughter...
Why did that god ignore ALL the other people eh... Ö
That is exactly what I thought................. What was so special about that one woman, that the others should perish? :(
If you have an imaginary friend, and you go so far as to embellish this magically-invisible friend with a name, with a gender (i.e. genitals), with all kinds of characteristics, and even talk to this friend and imagine that he/her hears you and is responding to you in some magical way....then yes, you're a nut!
Just because someone says god saved them that doesn't make them a religious nut.
And hopefully the 1993 version was not segregated -- "unofficially".
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mopthermopther and if T-RUMP is elected, there will be NO AMERICA LEFT to have a fire in. SMH.
Lori Lyn
good one
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