Note (as an OG Amiga Genlock developer): A1300 is heavy because of the thick metal shielding against _external_ noise that could get onto it's very high quality output signals. The fact that A1300 outputs the input NTSC signal is decoded to RGB is astounding - I used to watch TV in the background (color zero) while multi-tasking all thru the 80 and 90's.
Head got stuck on the platter and detached. That's why it sounded better when it broke loose. But then you get the vibration due to unbalanced platter.
Backed up an old SCSI drive from a GVP card recently. Sounded like a dying dolphin. Used a BlueSCSI in initiator mode to dump the drive to an image file. Surprised at how easy it was, and quite handy. Just need power and a data cable inbetween.
I had to do this recently and used an old pc with 50 pin scsi card, booted linux and used dd to create a full disk image...then this image can be mounted in Winuae and voila ! it worked a treat. As long as the disk is good a full disk image is a good way to go.
Or PiSCSI. Wish they got more love as a web interface is far more fun than pulling SD cards all the time. Though you have to use ssh for initiator mode. Wonder if putting file systems on PiSCSI would let us all mount disks in them and SMB share them?
Great stuff Dr Chris. I”m trying to help someone out by trying to get some Amiga Mod files off an old Zip 100MB disk. Luckily you know what partitions the old SCSI drives are… 🤔 Cheers 🍻
I dumped all my SCSI drives, including an original A3000 Quantum LPS 105, to CF cards using my A4000 with a WarpEngine 4040 and cheap IDE to CF adapter. I can't find my CyberSCSI daughterboard for the CS060, even though I have the freaking box, manual and the external SCSI-2 connector board for it. The Warp schwings plenty well for puttering around and CF cards for cheap drives are great. Makes it easy to blow into my WinUAE on my peecee workstation as backups (and that gets backed up to two different 4TB drives as well) and they all work fine there. I have working backups of both of my '90s 4000Ds and my 3000D installs on the peecee.
I used to do this for PC friends and relatives with my A1200. Had SCSi and IDE hard drives, cross dos, fat95 et al and could salvage files for them. Even managed to steal some fonts !!!
Yeah I used a PCI to PCIe adaptor in that old video. Had to do a little dance with Windows 10 to get the Adaptec driver installed but it worked. Thanks Dr. Chris!
I have so many old scsi drives I'm probably gonna need to use these techniques, I'm pretty sure I have an adapter around here somewhere, maybe two. Thanks for the Retro Rewind 'nocode' code, I bought way too much. 😄
you can use a Zulu without a PC, its just flip the init switch, and then you can just power the hdd and then zulu and it will image the hard disk to a file. I will do a video on that method also
Dr. Chris, thanks for this lesson on recovering data from a failed scsi hard rive. I have a similar issue. I also have a Quantum52 scsi drive that was working on a Nexus scsi card with 2 mb of ram. This card or drive starting having boot issues and now no longer boots up. The card should be good as it still shows the 2mb of ram in WB when boot I from floppy now. I bought a Amiga A2091 scsi card from eBay that looks to have been stripped of it one of its boot Ron’s and no DMA chip or Wd scsi chip so I hope it works after I get a new scsi chip. I’ll try some of your tips and hope to recover the data on the drive as it has a fair bit of good stuff from 30 years ago from a,former owner. Thx
there seems 2 be lot of vids on youtube about how unreliable old scsi hard drives are! have you seen that to be the case chris? p.s fantastic vid as always
There are PCIe to PCIE adapters, then you just need the luck for windows to still support the device or get an older windows :P Ideally, just get Linux and get going, for sure a SCSI PCI card will still work :D
I remember sticking dead drives in the freezer to try to get a few minutes to back things up.
Note (as an OG Amiga Genlock developer): A1300 is heavy because of the thick metal shielding against _external_ noise that could get onto it's very high quality output signals. The fact that A1300 outputs the input NTSC signal is decoded to RGB is astounding - I used to watch TV in the background (color zero) while multi-tasking all thru the 80 and 90's.
I did some similar SCSI hard drive data recovery for a friend using my DraCo and an external SCSI CDROM enclosure to house the drives.
Head got stuck on the platter and detached. That's why it sounded better when it broke loose. But then you get the vibration due to unbalanced platter.
Backed up an old SCSI drive from a GVP card recently. Sounded like a dying dolphin. Used a BlueSCSI in initiator mode to dump the drive to an image file. Surprised at how easy it was, and quite handy. Just need power and a data cable inbetween.
Thank you Chris for all of your videos - you are the ultimate human Co-Processor of the Amiga community!
I had to do this recently and used an old pc with 50 pin scsi card, booted linux and used dd to create a full disk image...then this image can be mounted in Winuae and voila ! it worked a treat. As long as the disk is good a full disk image is a good way to go.
ZuluSCSI Initiator mode FTW! No computer even needed!
Yes i know but this was not about that
Or PiSCSI. Wish they got more love as a web interface is far more fun than pulling SD cards all the time. Though you have to use ssh for initiator mode. Wonder if putting file systems on PiSCSI would let us all mount disks in them and SMB share them?
yes i did a video on that piscsi a year back. nice device. more MAc centered but works on amiga
Great stuff Dr Chris. I”m trying to help someone out by trying to get some Amiga Mod files off an old Zip 100MB disk. Luckily you know what partitions the old SCSI drives are… 🤔 Cheers 🍻
I dumped all my SCSI drives, including an original A3000 Quantum LPS 105, to CF cards using my A4000 with a WarpEngine 4040 and cheap IDE to CF adapter. I can't find my CyberSCSI daughterboard for the CS060, even though I have the freaking box, manual and the external SCSI-2 connector board for it. The Warp schwings plenty well for puttering around and CF cards for cheap drives are great. Makes it easy to blow into my WinUAE on my peecee workstation as backups (and that gets backed up to two different 4TB drives as well) and they all work fine there. I have working backups of both of my '90s 4000Ds and my 3000D installs on the peecee.
The Apple case is a rebranded LaCie case.
I used to do this for PC friends and relatives with my A1200. Had SCSi and IDE hard drives, cross dos, fat95 et al and could salvage files for them. Even managed to steal some fonts !!!
Yeah I used a PCI to PCIe adaptor in that old video. Had to do a little dance with Windows 10 to get the Adaptec driver installed but it worked. Thanks Dr. Chris!
I have so many old scsi drives I'm probably gonna need to use these techniques, I'm pretty sure I have an adapter around here somewhere, maybe two. Thanks for the Retro Rewind 'nocode' code, I bought way too much. 😄
you can use a Zulu without a PC, its just flip the init switch, and then you can just power the hdd and then zulu and it will image the hard disk to a file. I will do a video on that method also
Hi Ya & best wishes. SuperB! Thanks for work. Be Happy. Sevastopol/Crimea.
Been a long time since I heard someone call Seagate Seacrate. :)
Ah a MediaVision CDrom drive. I used to run that on my A1200. Seems I have 2/3 of it left in the box. (no software now sadly)
Dr. Chris, thanks for this lesson on recovering data from a failed scsi hard rive. I have a similar issue. I also have a Quantum52 scsi drive that was working on a Nexus scsi card with 2 mb of ram. This card or drive starting having boot issues and now no longer boots up. The card should be good as it still shows the 2mb of ram in WB when boot I from floppy now. I bought a Amiga A2091 scsi card from eBay that looks to have been stripped of it one of its boot Ron’s and no DMA chip or Wd scsi chip so I hope it works after I get a new scsi chip. I’ll try some of your tips and hope to recover the data on the drive as it has a fair bit of good stuff from 30 years ago from a,former owner. Thx
Chris a thought. If those drives are dead and don't have anything valuable in them there is the a freezer trick that many swear by........
That would be interesting to try but they have been returned to their owner
there seems 2 be lot of vids on youtube about how unreliable old scsi hard drives are! have you seen that to be the case chris? p.s fantastic vid as always
Neat as usual dude
Zulu SCSI card with image copy a drive to SD card in standalone... Just need power supply juicy enough for the drive.
I need to do this with all my scsi drives
There are PCIe to PCIE adapters, then you just need the luck for windows to still support the device or get an older windows :P Ideally, just get Linux and get going, for sure a SCSI PCI card will still work :D
I love the Fu-Shit=Zoo.
Woo Hoo!