Steven Kotkin on Waiting for Hitler, vol. 2 of his 3-volume biography of Stalin, with executive director, Kai Bird. February 7, 2018, the Skylight Room, the Graduate Center, CUNY
What a great talk. What a privilege to be enrolled in one of his courses. Not only does he have an incomparable grasp of the resources, but he is a wonderful communicator. He has a gentle, affable style that is a delight to experience.
But what and achievement. If he doesn't get a Pulitzer Prize when he releases his third volume, i'll eat my hat. I have a sneaking suspicion it will be the most brilliant volume, given the period it covers.
The Sphere of influence lectures will become a book hopefully. Kotkin's perspective on the US policy towards China is the America in Retreat genre of academic books but it will come with his New York attitude like a smack across the face. It will be a best seller.
I read many biographies of Stalin by Westerners and all miss something, either he is a demon either a prophet. Kotkin makes him a human so scary that I see myself in Stalin many times
I saw footage of him before he was leader as a Paul bearer for Felix Czerzinski..along with Lev Trotsky which that alone was a sight to behold...I like that quote "he wanted to be a better despot"..what is that ?
Search UA-cam for Stephen Kotkin and look at the comments...you'll find that in every case, for every video, someone before you has made the very same connection!
The Capitalism of Agricultural development in the US has created a Commodity Production unit that has now eliminated the majority of Farmers, as it replaced them with Production Units that consume Fossil Fuels as they produce massive amounts of Commodities. The production of Food seems to have become a secondary part of US Agriculture...... The ability to understand who grew the food we consume has become a mystery, as our ability to understand how to feed ourselves diminished. The use of the methods that Russians used as they developed a Farming system that creates a third of the Grains consumed on the Planet, seem to endure. US Farming has dwindled as the number of Farmers were forced out of the Agriculture business....
When the USSR was in famine in 1920, the USA sent aid. When the USSR starved Ukraine to death in 1934, the USA recognized USSR and formally rejected Ukrainian independence. In WW2, the USA sent USSR plenty of equipment to defeat Nazi Germany. In the 60s and 70s, the USA sold grain and negotiated disarmament with the USSR. America was one of the best allies to the Soviet Union throughout its 70 years of existence.
How much of biography is limited to the establishments dialogue of events for example will Kotkin discuss Wall Street Stalin apologist in Roosevelt's Administration
@@AndreAndFriends The full version is, absolutely. A vast, heartbreaking, visually poetic story of the American immigrant experience, featuring all-time greats both in front and behind the camera.
@@TastyBurgerFilms thank you mate. The one I have watched was only 3 hours & 49 min. It was absolutelly wonderful. About Jewish mobsters. (Department 8200)👍🇨🇱🇺🇸🇵🇱👼. ..... you mean, there is a longer version? I have to watch that too.
@@AndreAndFriends haha no that one is the director's cut, and is the one that is watched now. Also I think this is the version that was released in Europe. But when it was originally released in America they released a version that was just over 2 hours. This version is apparently far inferior to the long version. Probably the reason it is not remembered as being a classic as much as it should.
The numbers of people who died in the famine are way wrong. Arch Getty have waaay different numbers sir. And the numbers are based on empirical study, so U were really wrong
Intellectuals give Marx a pass in criticizing Communism. I’ve listened to three long videos by Stephen Kotkin and read two of his chapters on the Soviet terror, but he never ties Stalin to Marx. It’s much like the way intellectuals never tie the Jihadists to what Muhammad said. See Theodore Dalrymple, Our Culture, What’s Left Of It: In Marx “we enter a world of infinite bile - of rancor, hatred contempt - rather than of sorrow or compassion.” - Theodore Dalrymple, Our Culture, What’s Left Of It. “As you read the Manifesto, a ghostly procession of catastrophes seems to rise up from it, as from the witches’ brew in Macbeth.” “The Manifesto makes no mention of individual life. For (Marx) there are no individuals, or true humans, at all.” “It is no wonder, then, that Marx speaks only in categories: bourgeois, the proletarian. Why study a man, when you know Men?” “He was notoriously scathing about all would be practical reformers. Only he knew the secret of turning the nightmare into a dream. There is no need for other parties, let alone individuals with their own personal quirks.” “Where Turgenev (in Mumu) hopes to lead us to behave humanely, Marx aims to incite us to violence.” “The Communists openly declare that their ends can be attained only by forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.” - Dalrymple, Our Culture, What’s Left Of It Intellectuals give Marx a pass in criticizing Communism. They never bring up the damning phrase against it that is generally accepted, “the ends justify the means.” It’s as if they are too sophisticated/intelligent/knowing for what resonates with the “contemptuous” masses.
"5. And since peace depends in large measure on inhibiting the differences ... " ... 'never split the difference'? "9. We also promise to one another that in going to the appointed election, and being at the place, and upon returning to home, we shall do no violence to the people or amongst ourselves, whatsoever. 10. All of these things we promise to one another, and for our descendants, to be enduringly preserved, and kept ... " "among the leading candidates to the vacant throne was the son of the French king, Henry (de Valois) ... " "were to remain binding indefinitely, rather than only during the interregnum and Henry’s reign." polishfreedom document the-warsaw-confederation "The Polish History Museum in Warsaw has created this English-language website (...) above all for university lecturers, students, and history buffs as a means to present ... " "The Confederation of Warsaw of 28th of January 1573: Religious tolerance guaranteed I United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural “Certainly, the wording and substance of the declaration of the Confederation of Warsaw of 28th January 1573 were extraordinary with regards to prevailing conditions elsewhere in Europe; and they governed the principles of religious life in the Republic for over two hundred years.” (Norman Davies)'." '2016 Selden Society lecture - Emeritus Professor Wilfrid Prest on Sir William Blackstone' (Supreme Court Library Queensland ... Australia) "Sir William Blackstone (1723-80) wrote the most famous and influential treatise on Anglo-American-Australian common law-the four volume Commentaries on the Laws of England (1765-69)-but he was also a major figure in 18th century public, academic and cultural life." ... translations ... 35:45 min ... American. 43:14 min ... French, German, Polish, Russian. 45:02 min... Japanese. 48:31 min ... Adelaide, Toronto, Iowa. ......................... Blackstone Ratio? .... Blackstone ratio or Blackstone's principle: It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer. From (written in) a comment section elsewhere: (yes, an Aussie in Australia). In remembrance, of who we are, for where we've come from, and for where we are going, as a democracy, because this is Australia, and with respect, we are Australians, and because: Anzacs or their offspring, wouldn't purposefully contribute to creating a climate or environment where it possible for the erosion of democracy and the separation of powers between the legislature(parliament), executive(administration and enforcement), and judiciary(due process), would they; and, Stolen generation(s) or their offspring, wouldn't purposefully contribute to creating a climate or environment where it possible for a sort of generation stolen to be happening on current generations, would they; and so too, WWII survivors or their offspring wouldn't purposefully contribute to creating a climate or environment where it possible for current generations to either end up in camps of enforced medical procedures and being medicated, or to end up in the alternative camp of elimination, or to be told all generations the same and then all individually tested and told where their differences make them best placed to be positioned for the betterment, sake and showcase of all being the same, would they; and so too, .... , would they; and so too, .... , would they; and so too, .... , would they; and so too, etc. Stay well. Peace. Eleonora Formato née Szczepanowski South Australia
... what if "special military ... " meant something like ... ... with Ukraine's permission, a joint collaboration - a base of three Europe, Ukraine and Russia ... ? ... aren't there other issues, possibly, needing a combined effort, from elsewhere ... ? ... Ukraine govern Ukraine, however, an area that is a joint collaboration, a specialist combined, Europe, Ukraine, Russia base, looking beyond ... ? I don't know. 0:16 min ... "The Governor of Lviv says nobody was harmed by the missile strikes that hit the east of Ukraine city today and confirmed they struck a fuel depot and defence facility." "Ukraine War: How Ukraine is counterattacking against Russia" (SkyNews) 5:22 min ... "US is working on an Iran deal and Russia is negotiating on the US's behalf." "Russia is executing this for 'pure terror': Gen. Kellog" (FoxBusiness) Aren't there currently various talks being held or about to be held, around Europe, Euroasia, in the Middle East? Special rapporteurs ... comity ... peace. Stay well. Peace. Eleonora Formato née Szczepanowski South Australia
I used to smoke cigarrette shag in a pipe.An exceptionally mild smoke.Anyhow a great read except you have to read it in bed because outside of the bible it is the absolutely heaviest book you have ever read.
Bolshevik revolution was Jewish coup d'etat. While Jews constituted 1.2% of European Russian population, Bolshevik revolution leadership was 85% Jewish. Bolsheviks subsequently murdered millions of Russians, who were Orthodox Christians. Stalin all three wives were Jewish. Lenin was quarter Jewish. Lenin wife was Jewish and spoke Yiddish at home. Stalin father was Jewish and Stalin Georgian last name translates in English to "Son of a Jew".
Stalin had only two wives and NONE of them were Jewish. Lenin's wife was half Slavic half German. Stalin father was not Jew and his last name does not translated as "son of Jew" - ask ANY Georgian. These are just lies that people are copy-pasting trying to keep right-wing traditionalist in a fantasy world.
You are not only completely wrong, but, also, quite possibly bonkers. Mad as a March hare. Both of Stalin’s parents were regional northern Georgians. Outside of Nazi and/or various hysterics associated with Orthodox Russian or Ukrainian diaspora polemics. Not a single specialist in the field of any note or repute gives a smidgin of credence to such poppycock. The Tsar had even less Russian ‘ blood ‘ than Lenin did. But of what consequence was that, anyway ? He was a fanatical Russian nationalist who was gullible enough to accept the infamous forgery, ‘ The Protocols…’ as a truthful account of a ‘ Jewish plot ‘. I’d be surprised if you don’t own a well-worn copy of it.
He’s very charismatic and learned. It’s a shame he’s been diverted into some nefarious anti Chinese think tank recently, he used to be highly credible and unbiased, atypical for a historian. But now he’s now lost it, I’m disappointed.
What a great talk. What a privilege to be enrolled in one of his courses. Not only does he have an incomparable grasp of the resources, but he is a wonderful communicator. He has a gentle, affable style that is a delight to experience.
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I've listened to Stephen Kotkin give about 20 different versions of this speech here on UA-cam.
They're all great, but this is one of the best ones.
Surely, the most personally emotional.
agreed, he’s on a tear here
Which one is the best?
Happy to know I am not the only one listening to multiple versions of the same lecture ❤
@@xintolerancex A warm welcome to the club (of people who are listening multiple versions of the same lecture)!
This man Kotkin, how do I express my appreciation. Thank you is obviously not enough.
Tell others about his work. Buy his books if you can.
This is the best lecture I've seen from Kotkin. I'm glad the UA-cam algorithm suggests it, even with the title.
Stunning lecture. Worth watching over and over and over.
I love Kotkins storytelling style...dry and academic but it's great and natural oratory.
But with a ton of humour most seem to miss.
@@SueFerreira75 fantastic point
This biography has nearly killed this poor man. He's aged 25 years in the last 7.
This is what happens to you when you get to a certain age.
But what and achievement. If he doesn't get a Pulitzer Prize when he releases his third volume, i'll eat my hat. I have a sneaking suspicion it will be the most brilliant volume, given the period it covers.
@@svendbosanvovski4241 Ha! You’ve betrayed your age. I haven’t heard the term “I’ll eat my hat” since the 50s or 60s. :)
The long arm of Stalin
It has, but it was about Joseph Stalin. If the right people read it, he has sacrificed some beauty for potentially lives
These lectures need better headings and better titles.
A very short descriptive title makes it more intelligible to a prospective viewer.
Exactly. The way they title is HORRIBLE.
Also a thumbnail that doesn't make it look like Steve can't find his keys.
What a great talk, he peaked right at the end, now I'll have to read the book.
It is magnanimous. The stage-setting is surreal.
thank you for posting this! great talk
One of Kotkin's best
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This man reminds me of the “great professors” at my college. Their talks were good enough to film.
3:27 Professor Kotkin begins
Great video. Thank you.
The Sphere of influence lectures will become a book hopefully. Kotkin's perspective on the US policy towards China is the America in Retreat genre of academic books but it will come with his New York attitude like a smack across the face. It will be a best seller.
I read many biographies of Stalin by Westerners and all miss something, either he is a demon either a prophet. Kotkin makes him a human so scary that I see myself in Stalin many times
That’s a good way to put it
The ending was stellar.
Absolutely riveting!
This man is one of the best historians, I have one of his Stalin books, the first volume to be more detailed.
outstanding
Kotkin is wonderful.
Amazing talk!
Idealism is dangerous. All wars are caused by ideas.
Superb.
incredible analysis of political history that i find useful to help Pakistan’s struggling Democracy.
I saw footage of him before he was leader as a Paul bearer for Felix Czerzinski..along with Lev Trotsky which that alone was a sight to behold...I like that quote "he wanted to be a better despot"..what is that ?
Is it just me or does he sound a little like a more articulate Joe Pesci?
Search UA-cam for Stephen Kotkin and look at the comments...you'll find that in every case, for every video, someone before you has made the very same connection!
@@junkscience6397 I was thinking the same thing but I couldn't think of who he reminded me of! Now I know.
Brooklyn. It's a neighbourhood thing.
So you're saying you think Kotkin is funny? that he's here to amuse you?
wonderful
LOL at the Mashan Gessen callout, but I can't say she doesn't deserve it at times
Brilliant
genius is in the details and here is the proof
The Capitalism of Agricultural development in the US has created a Commodity Production unit that has now eliminated the majority of Farmers, as it replaced them with Production Units that consume Fossil Fuels as they produce massive amounts of Commodities.
The production of Food seems to have become a secondary part of US Agriculture......
The ability to understand who grew the food we consume has become a mystery, as our ability to understand how to feed ourselves diminished.
The use of the methods that Russians used as they developed a Farming system that creates a third of the Grains consumed on the Planet, seem to endure.
US Farming has dwindled as the number of Farmers were forced out of the Agriculture business....
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55:07: “...on the tv...” Radio, surely??
When the USSR was in famine in 1920, the USA sent aid. When the USSR starved Ukraine to death in 1934, the USA recognized USSR and formally rejected Ukrainian independence. In WW2, the USA sent USSR plenty of equipment to defeat Nazi Germany. In the 60s and 70s, the USA sold grain and negotiated disarmament with the USSR. America was one of the best allies to the Soviet Union throughout its 70 years of existence.
Economic trade does not mean allies. USA and China are allies? Please man
How much of biography is limited to the establishments dialogue of events for example will Kotkin discuss Wall Street Stalin apologist in Roosevelt's Administration
1:20:00 what about Once Upon A Time In America?
It was a great movie?
@@AndreAndFriends The full version is, absolutely. A vast, heartbreaking, visually poetic story of the American immigrant experience, featuring all-time greats both in front and behind the camera.
@@TastyBurgerFilms thank you mate. The one I have watched was only 3 hours & 49 min. It was absolutelly wonderful. About Jewish mobsters. (Department 8200)👍🇨🇱🇺🇸🇵🇱👼.
..... you mean, there is a longer version? I have to watch that too.
@@AndreAndFriends haha no that one is the director's cut, and is the one that is watched now. Also I think this is the version that was released in Europe.
But when it was originally released in America they released a version that was just over 2 hours. This version is apparently far inferior to the long version. Probably the reason it is not remembered as being a classic as much as it should.
Once upon a time in Russia
19:41 ----> "Hahahahaha"
I had no idea the golden blockage www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28655
The numbers of people who died in the famine are way wrong. Arch Getty have waaay different numbers sir. And the numbers are based on empirical study, so U were really wrong
Intellectuals give Marx a pass in criticizing Communism. I’ve listened to three long videos by Stephen Kotkin and read two of his chapters on the Soviet terror, but he never ties Stalin to Marx. It’s much like the way intellectuals never tie the Jihadists to what Muhammad said.
See Theodore Dalrymple, Our Culture, What’s Left Of It:
In Marx “we enter a world of infinite bile - of rancor, hatred contempt - rather than of sorrow or compassion.” - Theodore Dalrymple, Our Culture, What’s Left Of It.
“As you read the Manifesto, a ghostly procession of catastrophes seems to rise up from it, as from the witches’ brew in Macbeth.”
“The Manifesto makes no mention of individual life. For (Marx) there are no individuals, or true humans, at all.”
“It is no wonder, then, that Marx speaks only in categories: bourgeois, the proletarian. Why study a man, when you know Men?”
“He was notoriously scathing about all would be practical reformers. Only he knew the secret of turning the nightmare into a dream. There is no need for other parties, let alone individuals with their own personal quirks.”
“Where Turgenev (in Mumu) hopes to lead us to behave humanely, Marx aims to incite us to violence.”
“The Communists openly declare that their ends can be attained only by forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.” - Dalrymple, Our Culture, What’s Left Of It
Intellectuals give Marx a pass in criticizing Communism. They never bring up the damning phrase against it that is generally accepted, “the ends justify the means.”
It’s as if they are too sophisticated/intelligent/knowing for what resonates with the “contemptuous” masses.
Academics don't make policy.
Whoever titled this should be sent to the gulag.
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Both Dunkirk 1958 and 2017 were terrible. It's a pity because there are some good books on the subject and it is a mega story.
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"5. And since peace depends in large measure on inhibiting the differences ... "
... 'never split the difference'?
"9. We also promise to one another that in going to the appointed election, and being at the place, and upon returning to home, we shall do no violence to the people or amongst ourselves, whatsoever.
10. All of these things we promise to one another, and for our descendants, to be enduringly preserved, and kept ... "
"among the leading candidates to the vacant throne was the son of the French king, Henry (de Valois) ... "
"were to remain binding indefinitely, rather than only during the interregnum and Henry’s reign."
polishfreedom document the-warsaw-confederation
"The Polish History Museum in Warsaw has created this English-language website (...) above all for university lecturers, students, and history buffs as a means to present ... "
"The Confederation of Warsaw of 28th of January 1573: Religious
tolerance guaranteed I United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural
“Certainly, the wording and substance of the declaration of the Confederation of Warsaw of 28th January 1573 were extraordinary with regards to prevailing conditions elsewhere in Europe; and they governed the principles of religious life in the Republic for over two hundred years.” (Norman Davies)'."
'2016 Selden Society lecture - Emeritus Professor Wilfrid Prest on Sir William Blackstone' (Supreme Court Library Queensland ... Australia)
"Sir William Blackstone (1723-80) wrote the most famous and influential treatise on Anglo-American-Australian common law-the four volume Commentaries on the Laws of England (1765-69)-but he was also a major figure in 18th century public, academic and cultural life."
... translations ...
35:45 min ... American.
43:14 min ... French, German, Polish, Russian.
45:02 min... Japanese.
48:31 min ... Adelaide, Toronto, Iowa.
.........................
Blackstone Ratio? ....
Blackstone ratio or Blackstone's principle: It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.
From (written in) a comment section elsewhere: (yes, an Aussie in Australia).
In remembrance, of who we are, for where we've come from, and for where we are going, as a democracy, because this is Australia, and with respect, we are Australians, and because:
Anzacs or their offspring, wouldn't purposefully contribute to creating a climate or environment where it possible for the erosion of democracy and the separation of powers between the legislature(parliament), executive(administration and enforcement), and judiciary(due process), would they; and,
Stolen generation(s) or their offspring, wouldn't purposefully contribute to creating a climate or environment where it possible for a sort of generation stolen to be happening on current generations, would they; and so too,
WWII survivors or their offspring wouldn't purposefully contribute to creating a climate or environment where it possible for current generations to either end up in camps of enforced medical procedures and being medicated, or to end up in the alternative camp of elimination, or to be told all generations the same and then all individually tested and told where their differences make them best placed to be positioned for the betterment, sake and showcase of all being the same, would they; and so too,
.... , would they; and so too,
.... , would they; and so too,
.... , would they; and so too,
etc.
Stay well. Peace.
Eleonora Formato née Szczepanowski
South Australia
... what if "special military ... " meant something like ...
... with Ukraine's permission, a joint collaboration - a base of three Europe, Ukraine and Russia ... ?
... aren't there other issues, possibly, needing a combined effort, from elsewhere ... ?
... Ukraine govern Ukraine, however, an area that is a joint collaboration, a specialist combined, Europe, Ukraine, Russia base, looking beyond ... ?
I don't know.
0:16 min ... "The Governor of Lviv says nobody was harmed by the missile strikes that hit the east of Ukraine city today and confirmed they struck a fuel depot and defence facility."
"Ukraine War: How Ukraine is counterattacking against Russia" (SkyNews)
5:22 min ... "US is working on an Iran deal and Russia is negotiating on the US's behalf."
"Russia is executing this for 'pure terror': Gen. Kellog" (FoxBusiness)
Aren't there currently various talks being held or about to be held, around Europe, Euroasia, in the Middle East?
Special rapporteurs ... comity ... peace.
Stay well. Peace.
Eleonora Formato née Szczepanowski
South Australia
It’s the same thing that happened to Hitler.
Or arw you going to tell me the Great Depression famine and vaccinations n America are normal
I tried until minute 39...u are making assumptions, that is very ugly
I’m at 39. Was calling Stalin an “idealist” too much for you? 😂
The directors cut off Legend with Tom Cruise was way better. The original release wasn't very good, DC was great
I think Redux was better than the original cur of Apocalypse Now .. Theres a directors cut that was better.
I used to smoke cigarrette shag in a pipe.An exceptionally mild smoke.Anyhow a great read except you have to read it in bed because outside of the bible it is the absolutely heaviest book you have ever read.
Bolshevik revolution was Jewish coup d'etat. While Jews constituted 1.2% of European Russian population, Bolshevik revolution leadership was 85% Jewish. Bolsheviks subsequently murdered millions of Russians, who were Orthodox Christians. Stalin all three wives were Jewish. Lenin was quarter Jewish. Lenin wife was Jewish and spoke Yiddish at home. Stalin father was Jewish and Stalin Georgian last name translates in English to "Son of a Jew".
Stalin had only two wives and NONE of them were Jewish. Lenin's wife was half Slavic half German. Stalin father was not Jew and his last name does not translated as "son of Jew" - ask ANY Georgian.
These are just lies that people are copy-pasting trying to keep right-wing traditionalist in a fantasy world.
You are not only completely wrong, but, also, quite possibly bonkers. Mad as a March hare. Both of Stalin’s parents were regional northern Georgians. Outside of Nazi and/or various hysterics associated with Orthodox Russian or Ukrainian diaspora polemics. Not a single specialist in the field of any note or repute gives a smidgin of credence to such poppycock. The Tsar had even less Russian ‘ blood ‘ than Lenin did. But of what consequence was that, anyway ? He was a fanatical Russian nationalist who was gullible enough to accept the infamous forgery, ‘ The Protocols…’ as a truthful account of a ‘ Jewish plot ‘. I’d be surprised if you don’t own a well-worn copy of it.
"Stalin" never meant "son of Jew"... Stal' = steel. It's a pseudonym
He’s very charismatic and learned. It’s a shame he’s been diverted into some nefarious anti Chinese think tank recently, he used to be highly credible and unbiased, atypical for a historian. But now he’s now lost it, I’m disappointed.
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