prep work for 200 amp upgrade!
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Trenching and installing the meter base and breaker panel at the castle for 200 amp service #bluecollar #electricity #construction #electrical #castle
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Oh, the fun you had, Matt...... 😬😬😬
But you completed it as the power company required, that is good enough for me 👍💪🤓
Definitely should have had plastic bushings on the PVC male adapters, before installing the cables.
The grounding conductor goes on the side opposite of the bolt, when installing the ground rod clamp. It doesn't go between the rod and bolt. The bolt tightens against the ground rod, clamping the grounding conductor between the clamp and the rod.
Install wires in the right order - ground wire first makes it less of a struggle.
Experience helps a lot. This is a one time deal.
Agreed 😂.
Exactly
Sometimes it is painful watching you struggle. But as an electrician, I have done this often and have found ways to make it go a little easier.
and where is your No-Ox? An electrical "grease" that will stop the oxidation or corrosion between the dissimilar metals. (copper and aluminum)
How about the combo lugs?
We have pole mounted transformers around here so luckily our Electric Co-Op here in Souther Va.lets us mount a meter box to their pole. We are allowed to attach our breaker box directly to that box mounted on the same pole. Everything must be a minimum of 36” off the ground. Then run our service to our inside breaker box.
I'm assuming you will install communications of some sort, while you have trenches open, toss in an extra 1" conduit and you can pull trick, catv, fiber etc, $20 in plastic now can save you $2k in headaches later.
All the work you do to get and move electrons to the castle. Next fun job will be getting the electrons to go inside the castle where you want them. Have fun Matt!!!!
I truly love watching your vids and how you tackle your projects and I recognize different areas have different standards , I have been a utility lineman for 35 years now and have done storm work in several provinces and states so have seen many standards and quit frankly if your entrance passes their inspection I will be so worried.....been to too many fatal house fires over the years caused by faulty wiring. Also noticed that when you dug the trenches that all the dirt piles are now blocking access to the power poles for the bucket trucks when they arrive......don't want to come across harsh but electrical needs to be left to the professionals.....John F.
obviously not !
We have to use 3 ground rods space 20 inches apart it’s a bit much I’d say but great video Matt
So one dark snowy freezing night as you get to the top of your stairs ..the breaker trips ….and outside you go in the dark dark night in the deep deep snow to switch it on ,me on the other hand in the same conditions outside go to my breaker inside the nice warm house and reset it ….but you would expect no less from a sparky😂
I never understood mounting breaker boxes outside.
I remember when I asked you about that pole a year back… Glad you had second thoughts and are doing it now. Love your content and videos.
Thanks for the video Matt, be interested in seeing the power company boys bring the power into the meter, I saw a couple things I have questions on, but, I will wait to ask until your power gets installed, I think they will be answered at installation. Appreciate your time and sharing with us.
Matt, you are learning why electricians get paid so well.😂
The comment generator seems to be working perfectly.
Howdy Matt, here in Texas you can't have a meter base on the same box as your breaker panel. It has to be separated with either a 2" or up to a 4' splice / separator of conduit between the two and at least 4' off the ground for code. An your right it is a big headache when they don't tell you about that when your there getting stuff to wire one in and all. I've been through the same thing here. You're doing a Great Job on the Castle, Kudo's to ya on that.....
good job Matt, to save you from frustration get a pro to do the wireing 😊 here in Sweden you need to be a cerified to do electric instalations in the power system for your buildings.😮
Here we have to have our meters at least 4 feet no more than 6 feet from the ground you are lucky
In Australia we have a thing called the S.A.A wiring rules which licenced electricians have to follow pertaining to installation of meter boxes etc and to be performed by a licenced electrician.or a certified home owner who has been trained to do certain electrical install.You all out in the wild there eh.
If you mount that panel so low you will have issues when the snow gets higher than the bottom of the panel. There are deffinetly electrical codes that apply in this case.
Keep in mind that that is not a weatherproof panel.
@@Red1Wollip He did state it was a waterproof panel.
@@ArnieD17 the nockouts are Nema1 and that panel is not a sealed waterproof panel.
@@Red1Wollip So you are saying Mat is wrong.
The electrical company approved my install location before I used it. I ran everything by them to ensure I met all that needs to be met.
Just a question of all the videos that I've watched of yours. I've never heard you once. Talk about permits And inspections where I am in Florida. You need a permit and inspection for everything you do just curious.
In Indiana you don't always need a permit. IF you are doing the work yourself on your own property. As a homeowner we can pull are own permits if we want to .
Seems like each state and county/city is different. One city near me even requires a building permit to replace any applicane (such as a refridgerator).
Good on you for having a crack at it mate, interesting to see how different countries approach construction work. That excavator of DP’s has a few sloppy pins and bushes in it, but I was surprised to see how much you beat on it trying to clean the bucket. Cheers from down under.
In UK you would need insulated cable for earth wire to prevent accidental shorting of live to earth .
🇬🇧 And you'd have to have a certified electrician who can test their own installation to do it. A lot safer than letting someone loose with mains voltage.
@@everestyeti thats the reason this service provider required the customer have their own disconnect and they have the defined demarcation inside their meter box. That’s to protect their plant and the grid from “whatever” such that whenever anything is discovered as a concern, the electric service provider goes to their meter and switches off the entirety of this customer site without ever touching customer provided equipment (CPE). That protects the service provider from liability and is for their employee safety.
hello Matt & it's is Randy and i like yours video is cool & Thanks Matt Friends Randy
Here in upstate SC, Duke Energy requires dielectric grease on the 4/0 copper connections and must be taped red for hot leg 1, blue fot hot leg 2 and. White for neutral and green for gnd.
Hay Matt! You're right! This was the "Struggle Buss!" Now, you just gotta pass inspection! Fingers crossed. Lee
Wondering if anyone saw the buss? I did…well played sir!
I was a licensed Master Electrician for 35+ years. I typically refrain from being critical of electrical work DIYers do but I see so many code violations, poor practices and safety concerns here. This is electricity, a very lethal thing if not done right. PLEASE, hire a licensed electrician who can help you with what you don't know. Not to be a smart guy here, but I hope the utility company did not energize that. Good luck.
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So many 90° bends in that ground wire 🤦♂️
*Keep in mind that he didn’t hire an architect either 🙄
Is there a meter height requirement where you are.
I could not read your drawing but there is a height to the middle of of the meter to the ground. Do the get any amount if snow there.?
Code violations are unique to the area in which the project exists….these will get sorted by an inspector. Poor practices are a matter of opinion within the trades and often disregarded. That leaves safety concerns which you failed to specifically identify….shame on you. You self identified as a Master Electrician for 35+ years yet not a single safety concern was identified. Was he supposed to guess and let you play the warm/cold game? 🙄
Because you identified there are safety concerns ….do you not feel ethically obligated to state what they are?
No difference than the framing
When I put meter boxes in they were required to be at eye level. For the reader to read.
Good job Mat you are getting there slowly but surely
We just put in a post and panel 3 feet from the power pole and ran wire from there to the house, as the power company wanted it that way.
When you were messing with the gold tapcons and the washers I was thinking "What the hell are those?". I always thought they were all blue. Learn something new every day. Nice job.
Good job Matt you rode that struggle bus all the way to town today...as DP would say "your on that struggle bus"
u need two ground rods 6 feet apart put white tape id on your neutrals u need 2 inch bushings on the 2 inch conduits Put red id on one phase the other one is black otherwise goog job
Your meter socket with a lever bypass is also available with a fused disconnect all within one box. They are made by different suppliers. I agree having a wireman help with your project.
Showing us the real deal, Great job Matt. Your making that place twice what it was.
Your electrical connections should have electrical paste on the connections to prevent corrosion and bad connections.
You only use Noalox if your using aluminum conductors
So Matt , was the clay pipe that you dug up coming into the castle from an old cistern , or was it the sewer line heading out of the castle to the septic tank ?
Great question! I have no idea yet. I find more discoveries with everything I do. I honestly wonder if it wasn’t a pipe for chimney 🤦🏻♂️. Will find out when I make it to the basement.
@@nyamillennial First bucket and you got a cement slab and mystrey pipe. Par for this course.
You did it the hard way, but it you got it done. Thank you and have a good week.
Good morning sunshine! If I was you I couldnt get a thing done for looking at that view! Lol! Much love from Henderson Ga USA
Good job Mat the struggle is real but you are turning that castle into a nice place I hope your wife and kids appreciate all the hard work and time you have invested
Thank you. Comments like this are greatly appreciated. Hope is a big word also
You put your ground wire in the spot where the power company has to put their neutral wire
Trying not to be critical but there are several code violations that will be probably issued.
1. Improper height
2. Ground wire installed in rigid conduit from meter box to ground rod clamp.
3. Many jurisdictions mandate electrical boxes cannot be mounted directly onto concrete.
Most installs when mounting to concrete utilize galvanized steel uni-strut. Due to corrosion.
4. All connections should be lubricated with a no-oxide grease.
5. You mention in your video utilizing 1 ground rod. Typical grounding requirements now call for 2 ground rods connected in series a minimum spacing of 8’ from rod one to rod two.
6. Ground wire connection in meter socket should be installed at the bottom ground connector position and not the top.
Tip, using 2awg.stranded bare copper conductor must be a continuous run.
7. Bushings are typically required on all conduit fittings.
Good luck!
I know my local utility would not approve your install not to mention our building inspector.
Well apparently his does! It’s been inspected and approved!
Wow! Lots of hard work, but it looks sketchy! Good luck and stay safe!!🍀
I do love the comments that everyone gives you but I think you did a hell of a job and pretty much had the usual experience of the common stuff that happens and you did it with ease turning out really well nicely done Matt 👍😎🇺🇸 NY
Hay Matt nice job the house is cuming to gather it how most done from madmax Melbourne Australia Victoria 🏠🏠❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Captain Kleeman needs to show you how to dig a trench in a straight line
lol. I wish. 3 different steep slopes 30’ trench in a 35’ opening 🤦🏻♂️
Matt called him and he was busy (something about building a dump truck out of salvage).
Your post wins the internet for today 🎉🎉
Truth 😂🤣😂🤣
Matt if your electric company is like most, your meter has to be 4.5 feet off the ground per osha requirements for the meter readers so they don’t have to bend over.
LOL They don't read meters anymore it is all done wirelessly
OSHA has nothing to do with electrical codes 🙄
@@alanbierhoff6831 The have to do with labor code, and meter readers fall under the osha rules, also there is alsort of OSHA rules on electricians.
Where the the Osha rules have to come in to play is on the placement of meters off the ground, the height of light switches ECT.
OSHA Electrical Standards - OSHA Electrical Safety covers a wide range of topics and the National electrical codes does encompass the OSHA electrical standards.
OSHA requires employers to ensure electrical safety for their employees. OSHA Standard 1910.303 covers electrical installation practices that are critical to ensuring employee safety and maintaining equipment integrity.
and yes OSHA does have Rule on Electrical Installation Standard.
What is the minimum height of the electrical meter?
The center of the meter should measure between a minimum of 4 feet and a maximum of 6 feet above the walking surface.
Osha has specified that:
Meters: Only socket type meters shall be used, and the meters shall be located on the outside of the buildings served with electricity; the meter bases shall be mounted five feet six inches (5'6") to the center from the ground or walkway level.
Matts meter install does not meet this requirement, as set by OSHA, .
I know my employer got fined by OSHA for having the service meter to low to the ground.
Our meters are read electronically. No humans reading meters and the electrical company approved the install
@@nyamillennial as most meters are today, and while the electric company approves , the insurance companies disapprove because of the code is clear on the meter being a set distance from the ground.
Matt , Meter base doesn’t appear to meet minimum height requirements .
I am really surprised that your power company ok’d this height, but good for you that they approved it!
Wow, you're putting a breaker panel there too!? Now anyone can shut your power off!!!!! NO WAY!!! MOVE IT!!!!
Only if they carry bolt cutter!
I wondered about that too- thought it had to be indoors. But I’m not an electrician.
But you are doing a really, really great job!!!!!
Nice work and video😎😎
5 am Coffees on!! Beauty morning view! Here weee go! Cheers!;-)!
I would've thought that you would need to have some sort or colour code for the wiring,
Why?
@@johnirwin1837 Well, so it can be traced easier if & when a fault or some other issue arises!
@@brettshields7292,what ever you say. Just my opinion.
I was going to tell you the height of the meter and first disconnect switch must be between 4feet and no higher than 6'7" but the meter socket ( to center, mind you) depends on the power company.
Hope you passed.
It is hard work
They approved. I asked all those questions. Everyone forgets the frost line is only close for like 3” then the slope of steep.
Very interesting, one more thing you got done, see ya on the next one
Code or not i would never mount panel that low to the ground thats crazy!
Hello mattgood job in the castle
Your struggle is real Matt but you are dealing with it 👍👋🇨🇦
Mounting the service equipment low, when it snows it will be covered in snow, mount some kindorf to the wall and you can raise it up and move it and level it with no problem.
Meter on the back side of the wall would look better from the street.
I’m super curious about that clay pipe…you’ll have to let us know what you discover
Good job Matt
Thought for a minute it was MiniDPme on the excavator. Then I saw the comments on the electricals and moved on. You should put a bit of Yankee ply up that clay pipe. It sorts most things.
All the very best. Thanks for sharing.
here in Pa i have to torque each connection as well as put compound on each thread or the inspector wont let elect. co connect-take care
i guess i missed something,why didn't you dig in a straight line from pole to pole?
Depending on your state, you have to have your copper wire. Continuous comes out of the panel goes to your 2 copper while ground rods back to the service panel.
Well that workout saved you money going to the gym bro. Safe travels. Ken.
A little oil or grease on those concrete screws will help them go right in.😊
Panel looks close to the ground. Needed paste ( nolocks) under main wires. I don’t think it will pass. I see code problems. Been doing electrical work for 40 yrs.
Better you than me! Gittter done.
Good job Matt 🏴
Thanks, enjoyed the video ❤❤
With a 200 amp service or better, you have to have 2 ground rides. No more than 6 foot apart. Minimum 6 foot apart with the number 4 copper.
Your ground wire is supposed to come out of the panel not the meter
No its not, Look at his drawing he had it shows it from meter box. Meter to ground then meter to panel.
Good morning Matt
Have You forgot that the boom-arm can be angled/turned in rellation to the cabin?
Thank you for another great video. Stay safe out there. Cheers
👍 Dielectric Grease for the long haul.
I don't know what it is Indiana. But I believe all power companies want the meter at eye level and your main service panel will have to be at least 40 inches above ground.
Springs a commin, I hear the geese.🧚♂
Great idea to go inground and pole be gone.
Hey Matt love the vids. Just remember when reading the comments, everyone who’s a safety “expert” is until it’s time to get some actual work done. Absolutely love this series
What are you talking about? When you start working you don't suddenly abandon safety concerns or codes unless you're a complete incompetent.
Let’s dig 18 said with a trench bucket best not to try n get a full bucket it gets suctioned in it when it wet muddy kinda dirt n it comes out way better works well
As soon as I saw that clay pipe in pieces, I had a "OH S#!@ moment! Then you said it looks like it runs into the Lighthouse Castle. 😕 Ok........where does the pipe start and where does it end? And what for? Doesn't make sense to run a drainage pipe into the Lighthouse Castle! It seems there are more questions than answers with every step of this massive project!
Well, that electrical hook up was rather simple, despite the battle with the thick wire.
Did they not recommend dielectric grease on each wire where the set screws tighten against
Sound like Kleemen
Very poor practice to have tension on your feeds .they contract and expand .technically being they have a disconnect in their meter base your panel should meet subpanel rules . Even here in hill billy land of West Virginia that service would never fly! Your coop is very forgiving!
Looks like there was a height requirement on the meter height. Are you digging that side of the wall down to meet that, or does it allow you to mount it that low? I recently put in a meter and it needed to be between 4-6 feet to the center of the meter.
Holly crap
Are you going to have a part 2 of this service with your fixes the power company had you fl before they dix their part ??
Tip put a small amount of grease on your tap cons
Punching a hole where you need it is pretty easy if you know what you're doing. Not being snarky but it helps to talk to pros
That no. 4 solid copper should go into the 200 amp panel on the neutral bar. That is your first means of disconnect, any panel after that will be a sub panel
NOTE Make sure the panel green bonding screw is in place
NOTE: that lug you connected the no. 4 solid copper to is where the power company going to connect there NEUTRAL to.
The last 2/0 wire you installed needs to be identified with white tape at both meter base and panel because that wire is your neutral conductor. This may or may not with the inspector.
On the two 2 inch PVC male adapter should have bushings. This may or may not with the inspector
The acorn clamp the no. 4 wire should 90 degrees from the bolt as you have it behind the bolt. This may or may not with the inspector.
Question dose your power supply the conduit from the meter base to the pole. If power co. dose not and your required to supply conduit make sure you install the correct size 2 or 3 inch
Reading some of the comments, concerning your electrical skills. Not sure what electrical code is used in Illinois . But the majority of the states use the NEC. I really question some of your work. Especially the meter box and panel disconnect. My opinion, is that you should have had a licensed electrician advise you or did the job
He has said that the power company approved his plans.
Permits? We don't need no stinking permits.
Actually Some place as long as it is your own house or property you don't really have to have permits.
Isn't it too low??? What if you get a really big snow storm??? or if a plow pushes snow up on it?????
The only one who would be plowing that far off the street would be NYAM himself.
first I don't thing your boxes are high enough.here it needs to be 4 ft off the ground.you need to put dielectric trim grease on the wires.we need two ground rods at least 6 ft apart.the ground wire ,we will use stranded wire.
What happened to color-coded wires, at least mark them. ? your placements? the codes of your area?
You will have to get MBS over there to help next time you dig a trench, overtime DP digs a trench he has MBS down in the trench doing something
And just so you know those MBR and meter base Lugs are supposed to be torqued with a torque wrench . Looks good Other than the height that low setting would never fly around here we have min. Height requirements . You gain a little respect for elec-chickens when you have to wrangle 3/0 wire lol
Try doing it 500 mcm in cold weather. Not fun.
@@johnunsicker7440 Thats a fact.
Try it with "750" coax (cable TV trunk line). Coax shield is 3/4" outside diameter and 1/8" thick! AND your up in the air on a pole! (US Army, Fort Huachuca, 26T, Television Equipment Repair)
Don’t know what the Code is there but in Connecticut the Neutral is one piece through the Meter Box to the Main Panel.